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Speaker 2: Another player come this way. If you're winning, you're getting

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Speaker 3: In my opinion.

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Speaker 1: What's going on, Sterling?

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Speaker 5: How are you?

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Speaker 1: I think I'm all right as far as I know you.

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Speaker 4: Hey, I think I think money is completely ruined this sport.

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I don't blame Thater for it. I mean this

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Speaker 3: Do you see it?

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Speaker 4: You know, with a transfer porter and all these guys

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Speaker 6: To say is it's time to get rid of the

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Speaker 3: Right their time has passed.

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Speaker 6: You know, everyone's always gonna try to want to make money,

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Speaker 1: David, I appreciate the com man, thank you. And that's

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Speaker 1: to sort of process. I think, what's the thing my

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Speaker 1: mom used to tell me when I was a kid,

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Speaker 1: like an unintended consequences. Sometimes right you try and I've

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Speaker 1: lived with this, or you try to do the right

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Speaker 1: thing and try to be nice and it comes back

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Speaker 1: and bite you. This might be it. I appreciate the

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Speaker 1: call man. Thank you one more here before the break,

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Speaker 1: Paul and Xenia. I played putt Putton Zenia and there

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Speaker 1: was a horrible tornado there about fifty one years ago too,

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Speaker 1: which I didn't mean to bring up bad times. Paul,

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Speaker 1: how are you? Hell's everything?

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Speaker 8: Well, I'm doing okay, staring. I just won't take this

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Speaker 8: opportunity to race you and your mode On a related

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Speaker 8: Happy New Years.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Happy New Year to you as well.

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Speaker 1: What about these football bearcats in this situation with the portal.

449
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say the loss today was strictly that,

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Speaker 1: but it certainly was a kick to the junk.

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Speaker 8: Well starting as you probably know, the attard of me,

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Speaker 8: the Labor Academy, Point and the Air Force Academy. They're

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Speaker 8: all highly displined.

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Speaker 3: They are.

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Speaker 8: They are so much disperence than the average college team.

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Speaker 8: And it comes as no surprise to.

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Speaker 9: Me that that the Naval Academy mid Stippland they were

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Speaker 9: going away over our recovered U versus centinary vertex.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it's just the discipline. I think it's

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Speaker 1: probably the players bouncing out to better their situation that

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Speaker 1: may be contributed. But maybe fifty to fifty on that.

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Speaker 1: It's tough to say, but I guess in the.

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Speaker 8: Naval Academy, you commit as a prishman, and you're there

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Speaker 8: four years to graduate, right, and then you stucking out

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Speaker 8: after a freshman year, a sophomore year, you're you're there, Uh,

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Speaker 8: you're there for the.

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Speaker 1: Whole ride, correct, and then that three or five year

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Speaker 1: hitch or whatever it is that they initially signed up

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Speaker 1: to because they are serving this nation at the same

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Speaker 1: time and then into the future a little bit differently

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Speaker 1: than the rest of us, or at least most of us, right, and.

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Speaker 8: They it really takes a different breed of human being

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Speaker 8: to successfully complete a four year education in the West

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Speaker 8: Point for the army, or the Naval Academy for the

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Speaker 8: midshipman most definitely, or the Air Force Academy for the

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Speaker 8: Air Force yep. I mean, they have to be truly dedicated, stilling,

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Speaker 8: and they really have to want that is their goal,

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Speaker 8: and they really have to want They put everything else aside,

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Speaker 8: and they concentrate for four years to achieve their goal.

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Speaker 1: That's true. It's true. I don't have that stick to

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Speaker 1: it of just now, and I'm grown Paul. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: the call, Happy New Year, take care of yourself. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate the perspective and the take as well. Coming up

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Speaker 1: after the nine o'clock report, we'll talk some movies with

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Speaker 1: Kevin Carr, Fat guys of the movie SI Forget. Go

486
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Speaker 1: on Substack. We used to do this podcast together called

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Speaker 1: Chubby and Stick, which is still somewhere out there in

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Speaker 1: the cloud somewhere. You can stream it if you'd like to.

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Speaker 1: What else we got going on? Oh, chick a logwig

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Speaker 1: is going to join me. We'll talk more on Bearcats.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk on Bengals Sunday as they wrap up their

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Speaker 1: twenty five twenty six season, unfortunately in a playoffs for them.

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Speaker 1: We'll give you more of a chance to sound off

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Speaker 1: on this as well. A lot of ground to cover

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Speaker 1: later on. Also, you see health doctor Christino Day going

496
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Speaker 1: to talk about living better in the New year, being

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Speaker 1: healthier and maybe trying to get rehydrated after a long

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Speaker 1: New Year celebration, maybe consuming some adult beverages, if you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and as well as a nasty

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Speaker 1: flu season and doctor Donas Schleck from Wright State, former

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Speaker 1: head of political science, they are going to join us

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Speaker 1: talk about terrorism and a foiled attack plan that they

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Speaker 1: put the kaibash on over the new Year that the

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Speaker 1: FBI has come out to talk about, and she put

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Speaker 1: actually the first textbook of terrorism ever published out, So

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Speaker 1: we'll get into her hat about that. A whole lot

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Speaker 1: of other ground to cover tonight, Friday Night. Sterling on

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Speaker 1: a tough one for the Cincinnati Football Bearcats in Memphis,

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Speaker 1: falling in the Liberty Bowl to the Navy Midshipman thirty

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Speaker 1: five thirteen on seven hundred WLW. It'll have. It's been

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Speaker 1: two weeks of what seems like almost a weekend for

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Speaker 1: most people. I've been working, but I know a whole

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Speaker 1: lot of other people who have been burning up vacation,

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Speaker 1: traveling all over Hill and Dale's to Grandma's house and

515
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Speaker 1: everything else. And happy Neod here to you and yours

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Speaker 1: is fine. Second of January twenty twenty six, rested, relaxed, fat, sassy, tanned,

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Speaker 1: and I think he waited to get sick until he

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Speaker 1: came home from vacation, Kevin Carr, Silver Gecko on the

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Speaker 1: sub Stack, My Chubby and Stick Partner podcast gone by,

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Speaker 1: and of course of fat guys at the movies. How

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Speaker 1: are you? How's the family car? And Happy New Year? Brother?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Happy nud here. Yeah, everything's good. You're right. I

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Speaker 3: did get sick. I was on vacation over Christmas. I

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Speaker 3: got sick right when I was traveling home. So if

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Speaker 3: you're gonna get sick on, that's the time to do

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Speaker 3: it on your way back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, why not be miserable at the house rather than

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Speaker 1: wherever it is that you go to sun yourself or

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Speaker 1: ski or whatever it is that makes you happy. It's terrible.

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean it's already no fun going home,

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm not thinking it already sucks to drive

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Speaker 3: back or fly back or take a boat back or whatever.

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Speaker 3: The return trip always is not nearly as fun as

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Speaker 3: the anticipation of going. So yeah, but I know, I

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Speaker 3: get hit by this blue and that thing. Oh that's

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Speaker 3: no joke, man, No, it knocked me on my butt.

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Speaker 1: It's been pretty bad for me for a couple of days,

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Speaker 1: but no fever. So I came in trying to stay

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Speaker 1: away from everybody, and I'll spray everything down in here.

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Speaker 1: I've been bathing in like antibacterial stuff and hopped up

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Speaker 1: on like emergency and goofball. So everything is fine.

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Speaker 3: I'm good to hear get pulled over on the way home.

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Speaker 1: I no, no, everything's fine. I'm not doing it while

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Speaker 1: I'm here.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I'm just chugging the costs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, correct, correct, everything's great. So think of it back

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Speaker 1: at twenty five, because you know, you always tell us

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Speaker 1: what's new and picks to watch and everything else. Is

549
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Speaker 1: there anything new? This is a weird window of time,

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Speaker 1: the way Christmas and New Year's has fallen. Is anything new?

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Speaker 1: Before I start picking your brain about maybe what we've

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Speaker 1: missed and stuff to catch up on from twenty five?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean there's like a couple of smaller things.

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Speaker 3: There are a lot of times you get limited release stuff.

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Speaker 3: The first weekend always that New Year, whatever that New

556
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Speaker 3: Year's weekend is is always kind of an off weekend.

557
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Speaker 3: So there's nothing big even like what was weird? Is

558
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Speaker 3: there weren't any real big opening on Christmas Day movies?

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Speaker 3: I mean there was Anna Condo, which I still want

560
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Speaker 3: to see because it just looks stupid and fun. Ye,

561
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Speaker 3: but there was a song sung Blue, which is that

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Speaker 3: Neil Diamond tribute kind of. It's it's based on a

563
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Speaker 3: true story starring Hugh Jackman and Kate Hudson. And that's

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Speaker 3: that's fine, But there was no big Christmas Day movie

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Speaker 3: where sometimes things are like opening Christmas Day and I

566
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Speaker 3: think that they knew that Avatar was gonna snuck the

567
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Speaker 3: air out of the room, so they everyone just kind

568
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Speaker 3: of vacated the next week and then this week is

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Speaker 3: always a dead week and then we you know, hit

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Speaker 3: it hard like next week with Primate, the Killer Chimpanzee

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Speaker 3: movie and the in the green Land two movie. If

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Speaker 3: it wasn't enough to watch Gerard Butler try to save

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Speaker 3: his family from everything on the planet, uh, you got

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Speaker 3: him coming back in this one as well.

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Speaker 1: Nice, that's pretty good. Uh it is. First of all,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you about this the movie that you

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Speaker 1: just mentioned about Neil Diamond, But it's not really about him.

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Speaker 1: That's about right, that's about these people who basically are

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Speaker 1: a what do you want to call it a cover act?

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Speaker 3: Right? Yeah, well they like to call themselves a Neil

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Speaker 3: Diamond experience. You know, it's not even a tribute but inexperience. Uh,

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Speaker 3: and it's it is based on a true story. There

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Speaker 3: was a documentary about it about this guy who just

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Speaker 3: loves Neil Diamond so much he kind of does the

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Speaker 3: tribute band, meets another impersonator share her big thing is

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Speaker 3: Patsy Klein. But then they work together to kind of

587
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 3: do and they fall in love and they have this

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Speaker 3: whole story. And with any story, there's ups and downs

589
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Speaker 3: and good and bad things happening. And I mean that's

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Speaker 3: it's a sweet enough story. It pushes all the right buttons.

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Speaker 3: It's predictable, but you know that's the thing life kind

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Speaker 3: of predictable for a lot of you. You know, you

593
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Speaker 3: know something bad's gonna happen. You some know there's gonna

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Speaker 3: be bouncing back and all that kind of stuff. But

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just a fine little movie. It does

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Speaker 3: get a little heavy on the Neil Diamond songs, if

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Speaker 3: you might. If you find that hard to believe.

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Speaker 1: Well you got to be a fan of Neil Diamond,

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Speaker 1: you're probably not gonna watch anyway. Which it leads me

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Speaker 1: to an interesting thing. I just read something that said

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Speaker 1: one of the family members of I guess these people

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Speaker 1: were not happy with the way they were portrayed or

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Speaker 1: how the movie came out. Yet I've heard people say

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Speaker 1: good things about the movie. So that's a weird thing.

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Speaker 1: Great movie, but apparently not true to form, or at

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Speaker 1: least the family members not happy with what they saw.

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Speaker 3: What does that? Well, here's the thing when it comes

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Speaker 3: to when it comes to true stories, is true, it's

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Speaker 3: no one wants to see it. It's a boring movie.

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Speaker 3: If everybody is always good and perfect and honest and

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Speaker 3: above board, and nobody's like that. Everybody has their dark side,

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Speaker 3: everybody has their flaws, everybody has their ups and downs

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Speaker 3: and their good days and they're bad days. And so

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Speaker 3: when I see a movie that's especially if it's even

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Speaker 3: if it's a famous person biopic and it's like approved

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Speaker 3: completely by the family, I was kind of like, well,

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Speaker 3: that's probably not that good because you don't get the downside.

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Speaker 3: Like there's a movie and there's still slight against Jesse Owens.

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Speaker 3: He was an absolute hero. But there's a movie called

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Speaker 3: Race that came out I don't ten years fifteen years ago,

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Speaker 3: and it was a biopic about Jesse Owens and him

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Speaker 3: going to the Olympics and winning and all that kind

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Speaker 3: of stuff, but it was like like produced by his family,

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, not that Jesse Owens had these dark

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Speaker 3: skeletons in the closet or anything like that, but there

626
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Speaker 3: was Everybody has ups and downs, and everybody has good

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Speaker 3: points and bad points, and the movie did feel a

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Speaker 3: little bit sanitized, whereas if it's a you know, so

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Speaker 3: it may have shown something that's true. It's just maybe

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Speaker 3: the family didn't like what was shown. I'm not a

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Speaker 3: biographer of this these people, but that's one of the

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Speaker 3: things you run into or they feel that they focus

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Speaker 3: too much on this because it made them look a

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Speaker 3: certain way and not enough about this. I mean, it's

635
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Speaker 3: like anything. If anyone did a story of your well,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. For me, it could be one of

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Speaker 3: those things I'd watched and I'd be like, well, you

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Speaker 3: kind of improved on things.

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Speaker 1: So I'm living the life. I could write it better

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Speaker 1: than I'm living. Yes, I absolutely could for me anyway.

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Speaker 1: Talking to Kevin Carr silver Gecko on Substack with Sterling

642
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Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW. So all right, so let's move

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Speaker 1: I guess back and look at at twenty five if possible,

644
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: Because there are always so many things that are put

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Speaker 1: out and now was streaming, it's even more so, what

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Speaker 1: is there? I mean, I don't know how many have.

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Speaker 1: If it's ten, if it's five, what are the like?

648
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Speaker 1: If you miss this, must see go back stream it,

649
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: find it because there are a lot of good things

650
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: that just fall through the cracks because there's just simply

651
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: so much stuff to watch.

652
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and I mean like like certain ones. Obviously,

653
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 3: people know I really loved Superman. You know that. You

654
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 3: remember me talking about that, and that was that was

655
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 3: a lot of fun. But but like some of that

656
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 3: kind of maybe were lesser seen, and some of these

657
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 3: are darker movies. I tend to fall into the horror appreciation.

658
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 3: There was a movie that was called Good Boy and

659
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 3: it came out I don't know, about four months ago,

660
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 3: and it was about a dog and it's a horrory

661
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 3: told from the dog's perspective. And it starts a dog

662
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 3: named Indy. Who's who's Who's should be in the running

663
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 3: for best actor of any category of anything. You know,

664
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 3: it should he should get the oscar. Oh, he's a

665
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 3: very good boy. And it's it's it's a really interesting approach,

666
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 3: and you know, it's got The Best Being Subject as well,

667
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 3: so that one is really good. If you haven't seen that,

668
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 3: check that out. I think it's on shutter. You can

669
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,239
Speaker 3: probably find it elsewhere. I also was a big thing.

670
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 3: You had two fantastic Stephen King adaptations. One of them

671
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 3: was The Long Walk, which is difficult to watch, came

672
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 3: out I think in this late August or late summer

673
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 3: August area. Very difficult to watch because it has heavy

674
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 3: devy subject matter. But it's a fantastic adaptation of the

675
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 3: original Richard Bachmann book that Stephen King kind of wrote

676
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 3: under a pseudonym back in the seventies. But he also

677
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 3: did The Monkey Oggur Perkins, the son of Anthony Perkins

678
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 3: who played Norman Bates. He directed this this over the top,

679
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: crazy violent tale about this this this little uh well,

680
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 3: it used to have like this symbol monkey had the symbols.

681
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 3: They had to change it to him hitting a drum,

682
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 3: the monkey with a drum for the movie.

683
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Speaker 1: Well, what was that? Because they were going to sue

684
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Speaker 1: them or they didn't like the way that the toy

685
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: was being shown or something or what.

686
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 3: I I think that some other company, like maybe it

687
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 3: might have been like a toy story thing has a

688
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 3: monkey with symbols, and so they said, let's just avoid

689
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 3: that completely, even though the original story was a monkey

690
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 3: with symbols. And it's just a bonkers movie. And if

691
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 3: you like sort of these insane, over the top at

692
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 3: darkly funny movies, the monkeys are fantastic. It's kind of

693
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 3: off brand for Osbud Perkins because the stuff you saw

694
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Speaker 3: long legs, I mean, that thing was heavy and grim.

695
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 3: But this one, I mean, it's an over the top splatterfest.

696
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: Well there's nothing wrong with that. I mean, you got

697
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: to be in the right mood, but I'm all for that.

698
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: Tell me. But I know you have others on the list,

699
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: but I'm just thinking about this one battle after another.

700
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Speaker 1: Is that one of those that you would say this

701
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: is that this is one of the better ones of

702
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: ninety five or five? Oh, I just flashed back thirty years.

703
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 3: I'm about to say that that's pt Anderson, that's in

704
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 3: his infancy. No, this one's good. I mean I'm not,

705
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 3: I'm not the total acolyte of pt. Anderson, but this

706
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 3: was a This was a good movie. It's one of

707
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 3: those ensemble movies because Leonardo Dicapriro does a great job

708
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 3: in it, Chase Infinity, who plays his daughter. She does

709
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 3: a great job in it. Sean penn As wickedly evil

710
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 3: as the bad guy. Excuse me. Vaneciel del Toro is

711
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 3: a hoot in this movie. So that, yeah, that was

712
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 3: worth seeing. If you've not seen it, it is an experience.

713
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 3: It's a little long, so I do warn you about that,

714
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 3: but actually want to know it's real bonkers. Check out

715
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 3: Begonia sometimes. That's the one where Emma Stone plays like

716
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 3: a CEO and Jesse Plemon's kidnaps her thinking she's an alien,

717
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 3: shaves off her head and and and is keeping her

718
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 3: in her his basement because he doesn't want her to

719
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 3: he wants to stop the alien invasion. It is. It

720
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 3: is chilling because you're like, you'd watch the movie and

721
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 3: you'd be like, yeah, I know somebody like that. I

722
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 3: don't know somebody who would who might try that, you

723
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 3: know what I mean? And it's it's very very disturbing

724
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 3: at times.

725
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Speaker 1: She's made some really really good films, hasn't she amazing?

726
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 3: Well? And this is It is directed by Yorgus Lathomos,

727
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 3: who did poor things which she won what are her

728
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 3: oscars for? So you see you see less of emastone

729
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 3: in this one, then you do important.

730
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 1: But you saw all of themistone, all of her, Yes

731
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: she did, and that's not all bad as for sure.

732
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 1: Anything else of the like well, because you mentioned from

733
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: one two through Stephen King movies, Long Walk, The Monkey,

734
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: Good Boys, Superman. Uh you mentioned Bona, what what else?

735
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 3: Any weapons? Weapons is a great movie if you've not

736
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 3: seen that one. It's directed by it's written directed by

737
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 3: Zach Craiger. He did barbarian A couple of years ago.

738
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 3: Originally started out in comedy doing the Whitest Kids you

739
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 3: know and Lo and Behold. He's a brilliant horror director.

740
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 3: So Weapons is a fantastic movie, almost impossible to spoil

741
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 3: because it's so twisted and convo looted in what it's

742
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 3: trying to do. It's uh, it's you keep guessing even

743
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 3: if you know what's going to happen. So it's an

744
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 3: Amy Madigan is fantastic in that movie.

745
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: Nice, Okay, good good? I like it. Anything else of

746
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: consequence before like, we let you rest and convalesce and

747
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 1: do whatever it is you have to do. Hydrate, That's

748
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: what I've been doing. I really I joke about the

749
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 1: big drinks when we've gone to the movies together, whatever,

750
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: in the catheter. But I have been consuming so much

751
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: in the way of fluids to try to get through

752
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: this sickness that a catheter, which I just went thinking about,

753
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: might actually save me some time.

754
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 3: Well yeah, well then the key is if you're sick,

755
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 3: you don't want to have anything with too much caffeine

756
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 3: in it. Now, you can have tea like to drink

757
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 3: and so your soues your throat. But no, that's why

758
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 3: you go with like sprite seven up.

759
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: Water, dalyite whatever.

760
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, pedlte or you know, cater Raide or something

761
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 3: like that.

762
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: So this thirty ounce container the mug of ice coffee

763
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: is a bad choice.

764
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 3: Probably not a great idea. That's that's that's a lot

765
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 3: of that's a lot of caffeine. Caffeine will dehydrate, you'll

766
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 3: you'll expel more than you take in.

767
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: That might explain my need to go Yeah, okay.

768
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 3: Well yeah, but uh no, I would say. The only

769
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: other thing I I I that that's really on my

770
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 3: radar is you got the finale of Stranger Things that

771
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 3: dropped on on it was it New Year's Eve or

772
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 3: New Year's day. Uh, it was New Year's Eve and

773
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 3: it was a great wrap up to the show. I'm

774
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 3: not going to spoil or anything, but it's it's definitely

775
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 3: worth checking out. If you've been waiting to borrow somebody's

776
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 3: Netflix password, now's the time to do it. You've got

777
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 3: there's forty two episodes, which amounts to, well, I don't

778
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 3: know what one hundred and eighty six hours of Eve.

779
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: Is really a lot?

780
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's good. It's worth worth checking out.

781
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: And did I read or did you didn't tell me something?

782
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: Is there going to be a movie about that? Or

783
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: is that just what I don't did? I?

784
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 4: No?

785
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 3: No, no. They they released the two hour series per

786
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 3: me series finale. Did you like this week?

787
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: I gotcha?

788
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 3: And it made like twenty million dollars.

789
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: That's better than a lot this year.

790
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean and it was it was

791
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 3: sort of that that like Batham event kind of one

792
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 3: time one or two night thing. But I mean it

793
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 3: is cinematic. It's a great to you know, sometimes you

794
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 3: go and you watch like the two hour finale and

795
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 3: you know, like that could have been forty five minutes. Yes, yeah,

796
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 3: this one it does take its time and you have

797
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 3: you definitely have a nice dinu maw you know day.

798
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 3: It's not like they like wrap up the bad stuff

799
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 3: and then roll credits. They they it's a little bit

800
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 3: Return of the King trying to you know, wrap everything

801
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 3: up at the end. So but it's worth it if

802
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 3: you if you've stayed through all five seasons, you know,

803
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 3: watch these twenty some year old kids graduate from high

804
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 3: school or something like that. Yeah, and that's the kind of.

805
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: Thing something to do, I suppose, Uh, yeah, it's it's

806
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: a weird thing. I'm wondering. Uh at this point, are

807
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: there too many options? As far as you would.

808
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 3: Never say that, No, I would never say that. That's

809
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 3: that's like, that's like that's like what your wife's coming

810
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 3: home like, sorry, honey, we're just having way too much sex.

811
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Speaker 1: No, there's I mean, there's I've seen a lot of movies, now,

812
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: not as many as you because it's been your life,

813
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: but I uh, and I've had some sex. I gotta say,

814
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: Kevin Carr, I have never not once ever like compared

815
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: I mean equality film to even bad sex. I mean,

816
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: I don't know.

817
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 3: Well, no, I mean, you know, what's that whole thing,

818
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 3: you know, like you have pizza, pizza, even bad pizzas good.

819
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: Right, right, I mean, how many movies have you like, gone,

820
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: this is a complete waste of time. I want to

821
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: get the hell out of this theater or fallen asleep

822
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: or otherwise. I mean, I have bolted out of theaters

823
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: and gone across the hall because I'm like, I'm never

824
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,439
Speaker 1: getting that part of my life back. Ever, I've never

825
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: been the mist of sex and gone. I got to

826
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: get out of here maybe once.

827
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Speaker 3: Well yeah, but I mean it's not a perfect comparison,

828
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 3: but I mean it is. It is one of the

829
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 3: but the whole these are too many options. I love

830
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 3: the fact that we have options. I love the fact

831
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 3: that there's more stuff than because this is the thing.

832
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 3: You can bolt. You can bail if you start watching

833
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 3: something and you're like this is boring, I can go

834
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 3: to something else.

835
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: That's true.

836
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 3: God, do you remember the back everyone is complaining about

837
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 3: too many options? Remember back in the day, we had

838
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 3: three three channels Lucky maybe PBS was showing money Python.

839
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: Well, but other than that, you're right, and and I

840
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: and if you were like me, and we've discussed this before.

841
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: Kevin Carr, by the way, is silver Gecko on the

842
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: sub stack talking movies and so forth with Stirling on

843
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 1: the Big One. I mean, I thought my only purpose

844
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 1: in life as a young tiny sterling was to hold

845
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: the antenna and stand appropriately so we might be able

846
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: to get more than the three. So we could get

847
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: eet and sixteen out of Dayton. So we could get

848
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: nineteen and then maybe twenty two out of Dayton. You know,

849
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 1: in that type of situation and the weather was really good,

850
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: maybe you get a Columbus station or an Indianapolis station.

851
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: And that might have been if I took the foil

852
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: and wrapped it around the top of the room.

853
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I grew up in Columbus. We had

854
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 3: three stations and PBS and that was it. We didn't

855
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 3: get independent TV stations until the mid eighties. And I

856
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 3: remember we'd go up and visit my family in Cleveland.

857
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 3: They had a couple of them. I thought it was

858
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 3: great that channel surfing. You could go seven stations before

859
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 3: you got back to the Brady Bunch again. So look,

860
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 3: I mean, I will take more content over nothing any day.

861
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 3: And I love the fact that people promote, Oh but

862
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 3: Blockbuster's close, you can't. Oh, I'm sorry. You go to

863
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 3: Blockbuster and you can't all agree on a movie and

864
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 3: then it be out. You know, you can't wait six

865
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 3: years to go see my best friend's wedding because the

866
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 3: entire wall at Blockbuster's gone. No, I mean, you can

867
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 3: just watch whatever you want to. I will never complain

868
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 3: about that.

869
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: There you go, don't complain. Options are good. It's good

870
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: to have choices. I mean, yeah, that's the bottom line. Absolutely,

871
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: Kevin Carr, thank you for making time. I know that

872
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: you're convalescing. You're sickly, but tan and rested into the

873
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 1: new year. So I wish you and the family car

874
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: the best and I look forward to hanging out and

875
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: talking more movies and whatever else comes in twenty twenty six.

876
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: Thank you for jo We'll talk to you later, absolutely, Man,

877
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: take care of yourself. More sterling coming back sooner than later.

878
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: Chick Ludwig's gonna join me on the other side of

879
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: your nine thirty report. We got a Brady Hopkins with

880
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 1: the news. Chick will join us. We'll talk on Bengals,

881
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: and of course we'll talk on those football bear Cats

882
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: as well, and the issue of portability, which there is

883
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: no portability, by the way. With the scholarship Russ Jackson

884
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 1: sort of helped dig deeper into that as we had

885
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: a guy earlier and we were talking about Bearcats and

886
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: the Navy midshipman and how that game played out earlier

887
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 1: in the Liberty Bowl in Memphis. You heard it here

888
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 1: on the Big One thirty five thirteen Bearcats fall to Navy.

889
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 1: We'll talk to Chick about the Bearcats. We'll talk about

890
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: the portal and what that's done to well, you see,

891
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: and a lot of other schools in the situation ahead,

892
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: and about the Bengals who look to wrap up this

893
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: season Sunday with the Browns making the trip down seventy

894
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: one to pay Corps for one o'clock kickoff here on

895
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred double WELW Cincinnati. Glad they're along.

896
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: It's nice second day of January twenty twenty six. We'll

897
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: get in conversation a little later about that poor eleven

898
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: year old girl was shot at the Cincinnati playground and

899
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: the issues with the family having a sort of not

900
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: getting the attention I think of the love as it's

901
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: been reported at the hospital that one would think they

902
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: would be after losing their baby. We will get into

903
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: that a bit later. Also, Doctor Donald schleg from Wright

904
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: State former head of political science, going to talk on

905
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: terrorism threats and the FBI putting the hammer down and

906
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 1: at least stopping one of those that they've reported publicly

907
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 1: over the last couple of days. A lot of other

908
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: stuff to get to as well. Chick, Ludwig kind that

909
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: i'd give us some time, you know, Chick, you love chick.

910
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,439
Speaker 1: Coffee in hand, computer, all over, the Bengals, all over,

911
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: the Bearcats. You covered everything in sport other than maybe

912
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: ping pong and Indonesia gambling late at night, and maybe

913
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: he did that too. I don't know, Chick. How are

914
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: you happy New Year? How's everything?

915
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 3: Fantastic? Sterling great to hear from me.

916
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 10: As far as gambling goes, I do not gamble, but

917
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 10: I think I made some folks some money because I

918
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 10: told him to take Miami, the Hurricanes and the points.

919
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 10: Oh so yeah, the buck eyes out right time.

920
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: It was ugly. There was not a good thing. And

921
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: speaking of something else because I know you're going to

922
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: get into a whole lot of this tomorrow when you're in.

923
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 1: But I wanted to ask about the Bearcats because initially

924
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about Bengals, and then the Bearcats

925
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: thing with sideways. Tell me about this portal problem, because

926
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: it is a portal problem, and people are upset. They

927
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 1: want to blame Sadderfield, they want to blame the University

928
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati. How much of this is the nature of

929
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: what the business of college football is today compared do

930
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: you think the way it's being run in the program

931
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: at the University of Cincinnati.

932
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 10: Well, so much of it is is the portal and

933
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 10: the problems to deal with. And first things first, uh,

934
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 10: Navy was the superior team on so many levels. First

935
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 10: of all, they're used to water, okay, in the driving

936
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 10: rain in the Memphis. They know how to swim, and

937
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 10: they know how to row okay. And they brought everybody

938
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 10: with them, and you see was down a dozen players,

939
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 10: all of them opting out, most of them, you know,

940
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 10: entering the portal. A couple guys including Dante Corleone, you know,

941
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 10: preparing for the NFL draft. So to beat down eight

942
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 10: defensive backs, this was just a no brainer.

943
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 3: Pick a Navy to day.

944
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 10: But anyway, you know, to go in there with you know,

945
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 10: your second and third string quarterbacks, you see, just had

946
00:46:55,280 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 10: no chance to day against the midshipman. And it's just

947
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 10: brutal to think, now, where do you you need a quarterback?

948
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 10: Is it going to be some I. J. Shones or

949
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 10: or somebody else next year? So it's like you're always fighting,

950
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 10: uh yeah, fighting from behind to to measure up. They

951
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 10: they've lost five in a row. They started seven and

952
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 10: one and uh and then get sunk today, you know

953
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,479
Speaker 10: by the midship and it in this Liberty Bowl.

954
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: Didn't they lose five in a row last year as

955
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: well at the end.

956
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 10: They were They're one and eleven in November under Scott Sadderfield. So, uh,

957
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 10: they've got to find a way number one, to retain guys. Yes,

958
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 10: in number two, Yeah, find a way that a mid

959
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:50,240
Speaker 10: season to stand on the gas and not uh not crumble.

960
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 3: Is it?

961
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: Is it all about the money chick Ludwig by the way,

962
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: sterling seven hundred WLW Because to retain these guys, these guys,

963
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: they they opt out that they put themselves in the

964
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: poor you know, a dozen players, a starting quarterback, eight

965
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: defensive backs, and you look at that and you kind

966
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: of go, it's a shell of the team, and you

967
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: see it is not the only team navigating this. But

968
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: they're relatively new to the big twelve they're still trying

969
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: to get to the top tier of that and build

970
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: this program and having to navigate it. Is there a

971
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: way to say, And maybe it would be unfair because

972
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: I'm of the idea that players should have the portability

973
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: the coaches have had for years where we've seen it

974
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: at UC check where you know, you come to bowl

975
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: time and all of a sudden the coach has gone.

976
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: You're like, well, what what's that about, Well, coach took

977
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: another job. Now, so these players are in that situation.

978
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 1: Do you say, look, you've got to stay through the

979
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: bowl game, which risk them and their opportunity to be

980
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: healthy to get to the next place if it's not

981
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: going to be you seen, because they could come down.

982
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 10: To signing contracts. You know, with players, you have to

983
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 10: you know, you have to fulfill your responsibility, whatever it

984
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 10: is a year or two or staying through the bowl

985
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 10: game aim and to get paid. So, yeah, a lot

986
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 10: of it is about money and then opportunity. Uh gosh,

987
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 10: you look at a Fernando Mendoza, you know, buried out

988
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 10: in cal and then the opportunity that he gets at

989
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 10: the at Indiana University. Just a phenomenal story. And yeah,

990
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 10: now we're looking at the Brendan Soresby. You know, we'll

991
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,439
Speaker 10: find out what in a day or two, hopefully soon

992
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 10: you know where he'll wind up, where he'll end up.

993
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 10: But got he started at Indiana, then he was at

994
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 10: uc and uh yeah, he's going to get a big

995
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 10: pay day. So it's man, it's like a you're in

996
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 10: a washing machine here, a never ending cycle and it's brutal.

997
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: And our schools in the lower I'm going to say

998
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: that you see as a lower tier. The whole idea

999
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: of going to the Big twelve is going to the

1000
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: next level, you know, bigger and more market share and

1001
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: showcasing and all that stuff. But it seems like they

1002
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: don't have the money that some of these other programs do.

1003
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 10: Even though you're absolutely right look at the guy, like,

1004
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 10: oh what we saw last night. I have an ole

1005
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 10: Miss quarterback Trendidad Shambliss. He came from Farris State Division

1006
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 10: two national champion and now he surfaces at ole Miss

1007
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 10: and they beat Georgia. Just just an incredible story. So

1008
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 10: you love to hear those stories. But I'm wondering, you know,

1009
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 10: what's going on with eight defensive backs at at the

1010
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 10: University of Cincinnati entering the transfer. Man, is it is

1011
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 10: it a money grab? Is it an opportunity? It's probably

1012
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 10: a combination of both. And it's uh yeah, it put

1013
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 10: Scott Saderfield in a you know, a tough situation and

1014
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 10: all the folks that you see, you know, trying to

1015
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 10: get players and uh yeah, they'll get players. Now, how

1016
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,919
Speaker 10: you know, how good are they? We're in a big

1017
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 10: time here, this is the Big twelve.

1018
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's challenging. It really is. Time it is,

1019
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: it's huge, and I know people want to point the

1020
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: finger and how you know, for such a long time

1021
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: it was coaches who had the bordability, you know, and

1022
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: and and everyone else, and the kids were sort of

1023
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 1: tethered to the school generally unless they were kicked out

1024
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: of the program for some reason, which that you know,

1025
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: unless they're a problem, that's probably not going to happen.

1026
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: I want the kids to be able.

1027
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 10: It could come down to you know, one transfer, yeah,

1028
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 10: you know at uh you know, after a year or

1029
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 10: two or whatever, you get one transfer. So you know,

1030
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 10: the powers that be are going to have to you know,

1031
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 10: straighten this all out. Change some dates, Oh my gosh,

1032
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 10: with with coaches leaving and players opting out here that

1033
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 10: you know today, you know, And I was asked, could

1034
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 10: Brandon's Brandon Soursby? Could it be because could he have

1035
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 10: played today and then entered the transfer portal. Well, he's

1036
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 10: not going to take that gamble on a a bad game,

1037
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 10: bad performance, or an injury. So as soon as the

1038
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 10: season ended, he uh, you know, he opted out. We'll

1039
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 10: find doubt where he's going next.

1040
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: Chick Ludwig all over a bear catch you got the

1041
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: Bengals stuff obviously too. Sunday they wrapped up.

1042
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 10: Leaving Culture tomorrow at the Wings and Rings Liberty Township

1043
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,959
Speaker 10: from five thirty to eight thirty, the final post game

1044
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 10: show of the season.

1045
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 1: That'll be all right now, did you when you look

1046
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: at this Bengals team and you know it's the Browns

1047
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: and it's the AFC North and anything can happen. They

1048
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: come in here Sunday one o'clock kickoff on the Big

1049
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: One and you'll be doing the postgame show with the Culture.

1050
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: It was always great too. I just it's frustrating. We've

1051
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: seen it with the Bengals. You know, Oh, you want

1052
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: a faster start, they had a faster start. You want

1053
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: a better defense. Well, we saw the defense mature. We

1054
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: want to see them finish strong. I mean they're doing

1055
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: all the things that you would expect them to be

1056
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: doing once they're closer to full strength. Offensively, the defense

1057
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: has grown too. How do you as a fan keep

1058
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: the most positive way of looking at it without being

1059
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: like some of my friends who were just like, that's

1060
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: just what the Bengals do. They play well at the

1061
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: end and then they suck. And I've heard that time

1062
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: and time again.

1063
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 10: Yeah. What I've tried to tell fans, what we've learned

1064
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 10: and seen the last two weeks against the Miami Dolphins

1065
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 10: and Arizona Cardinals, a reminder of what might have been,

1066
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 10: what could have been, and hopefully what will be next year.

1067
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 10: The whole key here is keeping your quarterback Joe Burrow healthy.

1068
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 10: And I just looked this up. The Bengals have played

1069
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 10: one hundred regular season games since he was drafted in

1070
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:42,720
Speaker 10: two thousand. He's played in seventy six and his record

1071
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 10: is forty three and thirty two and one, and he's

1072
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 10: five and two this year, fourteen touchdown passes, four interceptions

1073
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 10: played in seven games. And keeping him healthy and then

1074
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 10: upgrading just all fasted so the defense next year, better

1075
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 10: defensive lineman, you know, adding another linebacker and the dbs

1076
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 10: because when you can get instant pressure on a quarterback,

1077
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 10: it just helps the defensive backs, the safeties in the

1078
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 10: corners just so much. So they've got to improve all

1079
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 10: three tiers of that defense. And we saw this young defense.

1080
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 10: We yeah, we're starting to see them mature, getting better.

1081
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 10: And you know, they gambled on defense this year and

1082
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 10: it backfired and everything went south when Joe got injured.

1083
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 10: So Flacco did a great job. Would love to have

1084
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 10: him back next year as a backup. We'll see if

1085
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 10: that happens. But yeah, and then adding to the offensive line,

1086
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 10: so just keep just keep upgrading.

1087
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 1: It's tough, check Ludwig, how much do you We've saw

1088
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: the improvement on the defense in the last half of

1089
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:01,240
Speaker 1: the season, especially last several weeks, and that's what you want.

1090
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: And if the offense have been clicking even half as

1091
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: well as it had been just with Joe there, And

1092
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: it's as much as Flacco as an elder statesman under

1093
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: center is you know, all the experience he has and

1094
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 1: everything else. It is a tough transition. I mean, how

1095
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: much more can you ask of a team to navigate

1096
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: what they did with the loss of a Joe Burrow

1097
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: because there's very few out there in any organization that

1098
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: are at his level or have ever been at his level.

1099
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 10: That's that's right, and it just underscores, you know, his

1100
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 10: importance to this team, that franchise, this city, the face

1101
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 10: of the city, the most important player in Bengals history.

1102
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 10: So it's it's like the team's always at a crossroads,

1103
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 10: and I know the frustration of the fans and hey,

1104
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 10: sitting down, sit down, your big three, don't get let

1105
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 10: him get hurt. No, this team has to continue to

1106
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 10: evaluate players.

1107
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 3: And you said million.

1108
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 10: Times you're not only playing for your team, you're playing

1109
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 10: for thirty one others. So the evaluation process is critical.

1110
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 10: The coaches, they have to find out who can play

1111
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 10: for this team next season and book around the locker room.

1112
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 10: Tomorrow a bunch of guys are going to be gone.

1113
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 10: And it happens every year.

1114
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 3: You know.

1115
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 1: It's an amazing thing. Though when you look at this offense,

1116
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: and I know defense is where it's been thinner, but

1117
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: they've come up strong lately. But as you look at

1118
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: chick aside from Jamar Chase, aside from Higgins, aside from

1119
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: Chase Brown, aside from p Ryan, aside from obviously Burrow.

1120
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: And you look at the weapons that Burrough has aside

1121
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:44,280
Speaker 1: from those guys, in what those guys in the running

1122
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: backs have been able to do, and that in between stuff.

1123
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: The weaponry is so deep. It's just to be nice

1124
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: if you could see them put that together with the

1125
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: defense that is serviceable for a whole season. But I

1126
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 1: guess that's the magic and why only a handful of

1127
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: teams are consistently in the play offs. And you know,

1128
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: it's a dream to get to the super Bowl, let

1129
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: alone play deep into the postseason.

1130
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 10: And we saw that this year when the offense played well,

1131
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 10: the defense struggled when the defense up came on and

1132
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 10: the offense had it its issues. So yeah, getting putting

1133
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 10: an entire game together, putting entire season together is is

1134
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 10: it just a huge challenge? And people want Zach Taylor's head, Well,

1135
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 10: then what are you going to start all over with,

1136
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,919
Speaker 10: you know, with a new offense, you know, a new

1137
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 10: head coach, whold new offensive scheme. No, they're going to

1138
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:40,959
Speaker 10: keep Zach Taylor. However, if they start slow next year,

1139
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 10: I'm gonna use my favorite word armageddon next year. If

1140
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 10: they start slow, it's uh yeah, all bets are off.

1141
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: So you and David Poulcher Sunday after Bengals and Brown's

1142
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,479
Speaker 1: kick off one o'clock at pay Corps and then where

1143
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,439
Speaker 1: are you two guys hanging out after with the.

1144
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 10: Sar At Wings and Rings Liberty Dry I have Liberty Township,

1145
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 10: so looking forward to it.

1146
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, can we shift just a minute. I mean, I

1147
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: find this part of the college basketball season turning into

1148
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: a pretty exciting time because all of a sudden it's

1149
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: conference time, Big Twelve, Big East, Horizon League with NKU

1150
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: and Wright State Miami up the way. I mean, we

1151
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: are really kind of in the land of plenty with

1152
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:25,439
Speaker 1: college basketball too.

1153
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 10: Oh gosh, we're at the We think we're at the

1154
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 10: epicenter here, you know, gosha, what's the arithmetic? Gosh the drug?

1155
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 10: You draw the perimeter around the Cincinnati Dayton area.

1156
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: You drive ninety minutes to two hours, Yeah, you drive

1157
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: one hundred miles. I mean you can.

1158
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 10: It's tremendous, phenomenal it is. And it all starts for

1159
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 10: UC tomorrow. They're eight and five, second last in the

1160
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 10: Big Twelve. The loss that hurt, that was just that

1161
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 10: crippled them is at home against Eastern Michigan and that's

1162
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 10: going to look really bad on as I may, but

1163
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 10: it can all man, the arrow can start pointing up

1164
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 10: if they can beat Houston tomorrow at home fift third

1165
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 10: Arena at two o'clock tomorrow. The Big Twelve starts. It

1166
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 10: got the Big East started, got it filt like.

1167
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 3: Two weeks ago it did.

1168
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 10: Now we're finally Big twelve play and you've got what

1169
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 10: half dozen teams in the top twenty in that conference.

1170
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 10: So it's it's a monster.

1171
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: Is that the toughest conference? You think Big East? Big

1172
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: twelve is pretty strong too.

1173
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 10: I honestly do. Yeah, the Big Ten will beat you up.

1174
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 10: The Big twelve is extremely skilled, and yeah, it's it's

1175
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 10: a phenomenal, phenomenal conference, it really is.

1176
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:44,919
Speaker 1: And you know, just to see the Goomers come into town.

1177
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 1: And Houston's been pretty good no matter where they have

1178
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: been conference wise. I mean, they've had stretches where it's

1179
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: been somewhat anemic and not great, but they have found

1180
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: a way consistently to be a winner. And just you know,

1181
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: from the Big Twelve and they just grow even more.

1182
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:00,919
Speaker 1: It's an amazing thing. That they've been able to put together.

1183
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 10: It really is with with Kelvin Samson there, they they've

1184
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 10: really stepped up their game and gosh, they're reminding you

1185
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 10: of the good old days with Gosh tim olajuh wad

1186
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 10: yes and gosh the fly five Slam of jama days.

1187
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: Different times, that's for sure.

1188
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1189
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 10: It all starts tomorrow for the Bearcats at home, the

1190
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 10: big twelve opener against Houston. It's uh, that place to

1191
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 10: be rocking, and hey, Bearcats go out and do a number.

1192
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: That's all you can do.

1193
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 10: Go out and James going and Baba Miller and they

1194
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 10: got to get the freshman showing a by you getting him, gosh,

1195
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 10: a five star you know McDonald's all American. Uh, get

1196
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 10: him going either as the sixth man or you know,

1197
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 10: he's a three point sharpshooter and he's been struggling.

1198
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 11: So yeah, Is it easier for Wes Miller than say

1199
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 11: Saturdy Field on the hoop side of things, putting it together,

1200
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 11: navigating the portal and so forth.

1201
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: I mean it's a challenge either way. We've seen how

1202
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 1: Xavier has found a way to do that in the

1203
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: Big East. But I mean, is football harder to do

1204
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: that or is it hoopes.

1205
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 10: Do you think, Wow, that's a good question, because it's, uh,

1206
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 10: it's tough all the way around. Uh, Xavier had to

1207
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 10: Richard Patino had to bring in an entirely different, you know,

1208
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 10: new new team and and really the only player, only

1209
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 10: one from UC has played in the Xavier in the

1210
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 10: Xavier rivalry, so that that's just crazy. But hold new

1211
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 10: team there too. For for west Miller basically, so.

1212
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: Uh, different times.

1213
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 10: It just is it's, uh, everything's fluid, everything's in transition, Stirling,

1214
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 10: and it's so tough for a fan. I don't know

1215
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 10: these players. I want to get to know them, but

1216
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 10: they don't stick around long enough to find out what

1217
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 10: they're even what their name is.

1218
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see over a few years how

1219
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: some of these players develop it, you know, they come back,

1220
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 1: do the education thing more or whatever. Because I mean,

1221
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 1: let's be honest, the vast majority, whether it's football players,

1222
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: basketball players, they're not going to go on to play

1223
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 1: Pro ball, NBA, NFL. Some will, but not many overall, right,

1224
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: you know, and maybe they'll go to Europe and player

1225
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: or whatever else and in some of these other underleagues

1226
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 1: in football, But I mean, so these guys got to

1227
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: get as much money as they can and then hopefully

1228
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 1: get that education and do something with it later. But

1229
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: it's hard to build the relationship and the name recognition

1230
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 1: in a market where you see guys who stick around

1231
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 1: at Cincinnati and in other places to do broadcasting and

1232
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 1: be a part of the community. So that's a whole

1233
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: shift that we're going to see too in the next

1234
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 1: five ten years.

1235
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 3: You know, you're absolutely right.

1236
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 10: You stick around for four or five years. Uh, You've

1237
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 10: got alumni more than willing to help you get a job,

1238
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 10: and all of a sudden, you're here one year and

1239
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 10: you're gone. You know, where are your roots as a player,

1240
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 10: So you don't have any You're a You're a vagabond,

1241
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 10: You're a gypsy, and it's.

1242
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: Unless you find a home like here with a big one.

1243
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 1: I mean, really, come on down there, you go. Well, listen,

1244
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 1: I appreciate you making time. I love you. Check you're

1245
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 1: a good man.

1246
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 10: Uh.

1247
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 1: David Folger Chick Ludwig hanging out Sunday after Bengals Browns

1248
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 1: at Paycoorp and on the big one again. Where is

1249
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: it you're going to be?

1250
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, Liberty Township, Wings and Rings, we will bring the

1251
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 10: energy fultures, vultures in the chick magnets.

1252
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 1: There you go.

1253
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 3: Check.

1254
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 1: Thank you for doing what you do and making time

1255
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: in your good Thank your brother, Happy new you take

1256
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 1: care of yourself. Sterling. Coming back, you're ten o'clock reports

1257
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: straight away, Doctor Donas schleg former had a political science

1258
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: going to join me talking about an FBI reported thwarting

1259
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: of a New York's Eve attack. We'll also talk about

1260
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: that poor eleven year old girl a gun down in

1261
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 1: a park and still looking for the perpetrators at that crime,

1262
01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: and a whole lot of other ground to cover on

1263
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 1: a fine Friday nights, Sterling, Happy new Year to you

1264
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 1: and yours, and a tough one for those football bearcats

1265
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: and the liberty of falling to navy. Tonight here on

1266
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: news radio seven hundred WLW Cincinnati says full lawn, seven

1267
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: hundred WLW, Sterling, that's me all the time, the FBI,

1268
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 1: Secret Service, local law enforcement, county sheriff, state patrol, you

1269
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 1: name it, border to border, coast to coast, and our

1270
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 1: interests globally. The threat of terrorism and danger of bad

1271
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: actors is constantly out there in the talk of us

1272
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 1: needing to be more vigilant or vigilant and keeping an

1273
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 1: eye out and seeing something and saying something is something

1274
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 1: we've been living with more openly the better part of

1275
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 1: the last what twenty four years, since nine eleven, two

1276
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: thousand and one, I suppose, and looking back at history,

1277
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 1: there were maybe more dangerous times when it comes to

1278
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: terrorist threats and domestic terrorism in so far for someone

1279
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: who put out the first textbook published the first one

1280
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: about terrorism. Here is also the former head of political

1281
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: science at Right State now, Professor Mariti, doctor Donna Schleheck.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to seven hundred wlw we Sterling. How are you

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Speaker 1: happy New Year? How's everything?

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Speaker 12: Good evening? And happy new Year. I was very interested

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Speaker 12: to hear the report that you mentioned. The New York

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Speaker 12: Police Department counter Terrorism had a piece of this tracking

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Speaker 12: this potential terrorist and.

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Speaker 1: It seems to be related to isis he regularly is

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Speaker 1: that it seems like they are sort of like the

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Speaker 1: pre eminent foreign actor or loosely organized bunch of sympathizers

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Speaker 1: who look to do US or other freedom type. I mean,

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Speaker 1: who were they targeting besides US ISIS in general anyone

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Speaker 1: who doesn't agree with them or what.

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Speaker 12: Anyone who might not agree, but particularly American targets. They

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Speaker 12: of course killed three Americans who were on active duty

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Speaker 12: in Syria last month. And this individual was spotted, you know,

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Speaker 12: by a New York Police officer on the counter terrorism

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Speaker 12: team tracking people online. So this was a cyber operation.

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Speaker 12: I'm so glad you wanted to talk about it tonight

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Speaker 12: because this is one of those successful preventions, right, this

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Speaker 12: is what we most desperately want. It probably would have

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Speaker 12: been another lone wolf attack Charlotte, North Carolina. You know,

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Speaker 12: a year ago we were getting over the New Orleans

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Speaker 12: attack with a truck right and automatic weapons. This past

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Speaker 12: Halloween there was a report of another planned attack that

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Speaker 12: was cyber aborted as well, detected early and shut down.

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Speaker 12: He was those people were talking about a potential attack

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Speaker 12: in here in Ohio, so up at Cedar Point. So

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Speaker 12: the small attacks, where do people gather, often in large numbers,

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Speaker 12: what happened in Australia of course, the Bondai attack before Christmas.

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Speaker 12: It's a classic example of people gathering in large public

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Speaker 12: places vulnerability. And you know the fact that we can

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Speaker 12: now talk to the public about the importance of you know,

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Speaker 12: the protective efforts that are going on behind the scenes

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Speaker 12: twenty four hours a day, seven days a week. This

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Speaker 12: individual had been tracked for months to try to prove

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Speaker 12: you know, a New York police officer, obviously we're thinking

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Speaker 12: about Times Square. No, they've aboarded an attack in Charlotte,

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Speaker 12: North Carolina. It's the case hasn't fully played out in court.

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Speaker 12: Another troubled individual. I was struck by how many similarities

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Speaker 12: there seemed to be sterling with the individual who was

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Speaker 12: finally arrested for planning those pipe bombs you remember at

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Speaker 12: the RNC and the DNC headquarters in January of twenty

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Speaker 12: twenty one. These investigations take take a long time, but

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Speaker 12: talking to the public about the ongoing threat, all the

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Speaker 12: efforts being taken to identify these individuals online, ISIS has

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Speaker 12: a global reach. Americans are favorite targets. Some of these

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Speaker 12: attacks last year at this time were taking place in

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Speaker 12: the big Christmas markets and Christmas fairs in Germany and elsewhere,

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Speaker 12: so Western targets, particularly in this case, you know, holiday crowds,

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Speaker 12: and kudos to the counter terrorism squad. It's a state, local,

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Speaker 12: and federal effort. You pointed out, we're going to be

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Speaker 12: coming up this September hard to believe it. On the

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Speaker 12: twenty fifth anniversary of nine to eleven, we've had We've

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Speaker 12: learned a lot, and like like in medicine, prevention is

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Speaker 12: the absolute best approach to take, and it is. It's

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Speaker 12: a good evening when we can talk about the prevention

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Speaker 12: of this sort of an attack on Americans.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I prefer to talk about this in the news

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Speaker 1: rather than carnage, lost life, in the suffering of individuals

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Speaker 1: subsequent to some type of attack, which is exactly what

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Speaker 1: was going on a year ago in and around Bourbon

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Speaker 1: Street in New Orleans, and as you mentioned, the Christmas

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Speaker 1: holiday markets elsewhere as well. It's troubling. Doctor Donnas Schles

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Speaker 1: former had of political science, now professor Merita Wright State University.

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Speaker 1: She's a Cincinnati kid with Sterling. On seven hundred WLW,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned the DNC RNC pipe bombs that were left

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Speaker 1: leading up to January sixth in what happened obviously at

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Speaker 1: the Capitol and everyone you know either way you looked

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Speaker 1: at it like kind of people were questioning, well, it

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Speaker 1: was at both political party headquarters, what does this mean?

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Speaker 1: And it turns out that this guy allegedly was not

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Speaker 1: particularly partisan, disgusted, fed up and wanting to act out

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Speaker 1: in some fashion against the system itself in both parties.

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Speaker 1: How much is that disgruntled, dissatisfied, sort of marginal on

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Speaker 1: the fringe type of player or person out there that

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Speaker 1: is so vulnerable either to be manipulated by others groups

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Speaker 1: be an ISIS or those that they can sympathize with

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Speaker 1: to sort of stir them up, because right now on

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Speaker 1: social media there is so much out there that is

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Speaker 1: constantly going on where they are trying to find the

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Speaker 1: disillusioned to do really horrible things and they just need

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Speaker 1: poked and prodded in the right way.

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Speaker 12: Yes, it is such a vulnerable population for recruitment by ISIS,

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Speaker 12: and it seems to fit exactly the case that we

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Speaker 12: currently have in front of us out of Charlotte, very young,

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Speaker 12: eighteen nineteen years old, not well adjusted, and online, constantly online.

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Speaker 12: It makes you wonder how many of these cases they're

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Speaker 12: tracking on any given day. But this individual was tracked

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Speaker 12: for weeks. The FBI has been assuring the public that

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Speaker 12: he was, you know, at no time a threat to

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Speaker 12: the general public. And yet if we think about some

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Speaker 12: of the other recent lone wolf attacks, luigim Angioni not

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Speaker 12: one of those you know, unsuccessful people, the young man

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Speaker 12: who assassinated Charlie Kirk. But they do seem to still

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Speaker 12: fit in that loan, very dissatisfied looking, you know, looking

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Speaker 12: for something and finding those answers. As you said, in

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Speaker 12: social media, law enforcement is there. You know that that

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Speaker 12: that cyber sphere is clearly where they are tracking what

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Speaker 12: ISIS is doing as well. But it's global and it's

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Speaker 12: it's it's going to be interesting to see what the

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Speaker 12: social media techs are going to be able to do

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Speaker 12: to work with law enforcement. We are we're too vulnerable.

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Speaker 12: We have big public, public gatherings. The holidays may have

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Speaker 12: ended now, but you know the next planning will be

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Speaker 12: for you guessed it, the Super Bowl, right, and I

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Speaker 12: will be wondering again, you know how how many layers

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Speaker 12: of security they have going in. That's one of the

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Speaker 12: things I was watching on New Year's Eve, and that

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Speaker 12: they have it down to pretty much an art right

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Speaker 12: now in New York. And the the interesting, the irony,

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Speaker 12: the coincidence that one of those New York officers would

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Speaker 12: have been the one who identified this this gentleman I

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Speaker 12: think his name is Garza uh and and to track

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Speaker 12: him and to catch him before he could hurt anyone.

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Speaker 12: But it is isis, it was, isis connected, and that

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Speaker 12: seems to be where the action is. Not the American cases,

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Speaker 12: not Charlie kirk Uh, not Luigi Manngioni, and certainly not

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Speaker 12: the attacks on President Trump either fallen into this category.

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Speaker 12: But we may forget about terrorism. It certainly doesn't forget

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Speaker 12: about us, definitely does not.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Donna Schlez, the former had of political science at

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Speaker 1: Right State now professor Emerita. You know after nine to

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Speaker 1: eleven what had been talked about, and it was just

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Speaker 1: recently in the last year, I think really the beginning

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Speaker 1: of the second term for President Trump, a lot of

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Speaker 1: talk about surveillance society in which we live, how much

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Speaker 1: is being looked at, whether it's our phones and what's

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Speaker 1: being shared by the companies that we buy service from,

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Speaker 1: whether it's what we're watching, what we're reading online, pick

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Speaker 1: a device of choice, any type of communication that goes

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Speaker 1: with it. And we talk about giving up our freedoms,

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Speaker 1: but there is an inherent vulnerability with our freedom rather

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Speaker 1: than being in some other type of place around the

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Speaker 1: world where there is no freedom, where there is no liberty,

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Speaker 1: So where is that line and how do we navigate

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Speaker 1: it because at this point they go, well, and I

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Speaker 1: kind of the opinion, I have nothing to hide. They're

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Speaker 1: in my stuff anyway, probably searching, and it's okay. But

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Speaker 1: the other end of it, where does that line stop

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Speaker 1: when it comes to surveilling the people of the United States,

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Speaker 1: our freedom for our security, because that, I guess is

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Speaker 1: the eternal question that we have to ask.

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Speaker 12: And at what point does it become entrapment? I think

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Speaker 12: an officer and agent posing as an ISIS person, you know,

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Speaker 12: an ISIS recruiter or an ISIS expert online would probably

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Speaker 12: have a pretty convincing argument, you know, if it went

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Speaker 12: to a jury trial. But your bigger point about privacy,

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Speaker 12: what we say, what you know, with whom we communicate,

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Speaker 12: what we put in writing. If you read the Patriot

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Speaker 12: Act that Congress passed after the nine to eleven attacks,

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Speaker 12: law enforcement has very broad authority, very broad. And the

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Speaker 12: cyber realm, as you know, is global and it's all encompassing,

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Speaker 12: and it's well, hey, it's in your phone right now

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Speaker 12: if they want to track with whom you are communicating.

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Speaker 12: But if it's an ISIS operative or someone posing as

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Speaker 12: an isis operative? I think an average American would say,

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Speaker 12: that's the sort of law enforcement and you know, protective

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Speaker 12: and preventive action that we want to see, not you

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Speaker 12: know necessarily what the politics are that you're discussing. But

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Speaker 12: if there are weapons and attacks and planning taking place,

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Speaker 12: I think, Sterling, you know, we're way past that line

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Speaker 12: of entrapment. We're talking about actual threats to Americans.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not a good scenario looking back at this

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Speaker 1: because doctor Schleck, you published the first textbook on terrorism,

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Speaker 1: so historically, when we look back across the country and

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Speaker 1: for that matter, around the world, and I was a

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Speaker 1: hatchling in the seventies, just a tiny sterling, but I

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Speaker 1: look back at it, and you heard, at least in

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Speaker 1: the early part of the seventies, mid seventies, in the

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Speaker 1: late sixties, there was a lot of terrorism of one

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Speaker 1: type or another done domestically. I mean, there were department

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Speaker 1: stores that were being bombed. There were a lot of

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Speaker 1: different pieces and parts going on with unrest in this

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Speaker 1: nation in a lot of ways. Are we not safer

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Speaker 1: now from terrorism than we were? Are we more scared

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Speaker 1: unreasonably from it? Or I mean, where do we stand

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Speaker 1: now in twenty six the second of January, compared to say,

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six in the bi centennial year with two

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Speaker 1: fifty in front of us.

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Speaker 12: Oh, what a great question. You know, the sixties and

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Speaker 12: the seventies there was there was a anti war movement

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Speaker 12: going on, and another number of many other movements. We

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Speaker 12: fast forward up to two thousand and one. What was

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Speaker 12: the FBI saying at the time was the greatest threat

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Speaker 12: of terrorism in our country environmental terrorism? They completely you know,

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Speaker 12: we we were not even in the right part of

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Speaker 12: the conversation. Think about people who've grown up, say you

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Speaker 12: know gen Zs and others, they've lived a whole lifetime

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Speaker 12: where there's there's always been a nine to eleven and

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Speaker 12: there's always been massive social media life going on. I

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Speaker 12: think they, you know, people who are twenty five may

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Speaker 12: find it a lot easier to expect both law enforcement

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Speaker 12: intrusions and privacy to be happening, almost taking it for granted.

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Speaker 12: Where as a person your age or my age, you know,

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Speaker 12: raises these questions about privacy, but the threat is small.

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Speaker 12: But what happens when it actually occurs a large public venue,

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Speaker 12: massive civilian casualties, incredible media coverage, you know, everyone is

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Speaker 12: riveted by the attention and then comes to a cult

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Speaker 12: part about knowing how to react or as we often do,

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Speaker 12: if we go back to two thousand and one, overreact

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Speaker 12: rather than you know, find the really most effective and

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Speaker 12: least costly to democracy solutions to these problems. We've been

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Speaker 12: down a very steep learning curve in terms of terrorism.

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Speaker 12: What happened with this aborted attack in Charlotte, North Carolina,

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Speaker 12: I think is evidence that law enforcement now knows that

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Speaker 12: terrorism is also a game of prevention. This is not

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Speaker 12: just finding them and prosecuting them. To truly protect the public,

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Speaker 12: it has to be protective and preventive. My heart goes

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Speaker 12: out to the people in Australia. I don't know if

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Speaker 12: you saw the big demonstration on New Year's Day, people

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Speaker 12: showing up just to show their solidarity with the Jewish

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Speaker 12: community in Australia. But you know, the threats are so small,

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01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 12: and yet when they do happen, they're enormous. Uh and

1495
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 12: and they're there. These are average Americans. Write somebody down

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01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 12: in New Orleans. You know, for for a big gathering,

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01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 12: it's people just like us, wrong place, wrong time. It

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01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:19,879
Speaker 12: could be any of us and that's why it strikes

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01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 12: people with the intense media coverage, the shocking nature of

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01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 12: the violence. Uh So it has grabbed our attention again.

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01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 12: You're right, the numbers of Americans who die from this

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01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 12: very small, but you know you're you're at much greater

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01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:37,680
Speaker 12: risk driving your car in American traffic. Uh But nonetheless,

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01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:41,440
Speaker 12: when it does happen, everybody can be everybody.

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01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:45,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's horrific for the individuals involved. And

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01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 1: then the nature of it is to to instill fear.

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01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 1: And I refuse to let someone dictate how I'm going

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01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:53,719
Speaker 1: to live my life out of the idea of fear.

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01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,679
Speaker 1: But it's it's a very effective tool. Doctor donas Schleig,

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01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 1: former had a political science at Right State Now. Professor

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01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 1: Merida was stirling on the we're short on time, and

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you making so much time of it as

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01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:06,719
Speaker 1: here on the second day of January twenty six talking

1514
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:11,640
Speaker 1: about this quash attack. Thankfully that did not happen in Charlotte.

1515
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 1: There are a lot of them that we never hear

1516
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 1: about constantly. Law enforcement pick a layer of that from

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01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 1: the federal level on down to local police, county sheriffs,

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01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 1: and so on. In people eyeballing things and letting people

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01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 1: know about the danger or what they perceive as a

1520
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 1: danger that could be a threat. But we also look

1521
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 1: at state actors. Iran is one of those who has

1522
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 1: helped sort of facilitate terrorism globally, as it's been reported,

1523
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:39,680
Speaker 1: whether it's hamas other organizations. The president just came out

1524
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 1: with a public warning which may or may not be

1525
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 1: unusual about their treatment of what considered peaceful protesters there

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01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 1: to the extreme, which is ironic because there's been talk

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01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:51,600
Speaker 1: of protesters here and how they'd be dealt with two.

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01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 1: But they're a part of this as well. In the

1529
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 1: idea of a nation state in sponsoring either terrorism or

1530
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:01,680
Speaker 1: an attack. You think of infrastructure, right, you think of

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01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 1: knocking off social media, You think about the electricity, you

1532
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 1: think about water, You think about all these vulnerabilities that

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01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 1: are out there. And then the very cheap individual either

1534
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 1: loose cannon off the rails, unhinged, motivated by or really

1535
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 1: affiliated with another organization, state sponsored or isis type or

1536
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:24,559
Speaker 1: what It doesn't take much to cause great loss of life,

1537
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 1: carnage and fear. I mean that is I guess one

1538
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 1: of the the upsides if someone is the idea of

1539
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 1: affecting terrorists and how it affects a society, is it not.

1540
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 12: It is very much in that public response component. You're right,

1541
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 12: and what can people do? Be informed, be aware, and

1542
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:50,799
Speaker 12: have these conversations about you know what you see here,

1543
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 12: learn on social media. Americans are very safe in their

1544
01:21:56,840 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 12: lives and in their property. We are very safe. And

1545
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 12: yet even with the newness of this terrorism threat, every

1546
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 12: time I'm recalling both Bondai and a year ago in

1547
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:15,560
Speaker 12: New Orleans, the public reaction because we all see ourselves

1548
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 12: in those victims. Any of us could been there. It

1549
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 12: is the powerful weapon of the week of the impotent,

1550
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 12: turning many of our strengths against us. And that is

1551
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 12: why the public conversation, the awareness, bringing to light the

1552
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 12: story of this something that didn't happen right. This is

1553
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:40,640
Speaker 12: the great lesson for the public to be appreciative of

1554
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 12: the work that goes on twenty four hours a day

1555
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 12: trying to track these groups. The affiliations with isis make

1556
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:51,679
Speaker 12: it possible for law enforcement to do this work. The

1557
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 12: lone wolf actors, though, those are the really you know,

1558
01:22:56,439 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 12: the real truly difficult challenges if you are completely if

1559
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 12: you're not reaching out on social media to talk to

1560
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:06,400
Speaker 12: someone you think is an isis and knows how to

1561
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 12: mix explosives. Uh, it will be very difficult to bring

1562
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 12: you to the attention of law enforcement. So this is

1563
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:16,640
Speaker 12: another one of those many edges in social media we

1564
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:21,480
Speaker 12: keep discovering. And whether or not we're getting much cooperation

1565
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:25,680
Speaker 12: from the social media text I don't know, but kudos

1566
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 12: to the team in New York. Uh, Times Square was safe,

1567
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 12: and now it turns out this little town, little community

1568
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:36,799
Speaker 12: in Charlotte will be safe as well. I'll be following

1569
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 12: this one. They were, They've got There are a couple

1570
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:43,600
Speaker 12: of interesting twists and comparisons, as I said to the

1571
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 12: gentleman who was arrested for the DC pipe bombing attacks,

1572
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:52,719
Speaker 12: but people need to be informed, and when it does happen,

1573
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 12: the immediate desire for this, you know, the swiftest, most potent,

1574
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 12: most power or full of striking response is probably not

1575
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 12: going to be the best one.

1576
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's not the hammer that you needed. Something I

1577
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 1: guess smaller.

1578
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 12: Well put, well put.

1579
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 1: What's interesting about this is it all sort of comes together?

1580
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 3: Is it?

1581
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 1: Statistically we are safer than we've ever been, but there's

1582
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 1: in some ways more danger and threat out there. And

1583
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 1: the instantaneous sharing of information, which we did not have

1584
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 1: decades ago, is there as well. It's not just checking

1585
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 1: you know, somebody's library card history that they took out

1586
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 1: or stole the you know, the anarchist cookbook from the

1587
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 1: library downtown. It's online who they were talking to, what

1588
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:38,680
Speaker 1: they've been doing, and information they've been searching, and then

1589
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:41,639
Speaker 1: credit card records and everything. I mean, it's out there.

1590
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 1: The information. Hard to hide your trail. If you're out

1591
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 1: there looking to do bad things.

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01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 12: It is hard to hide your trail. It's also hard

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01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 12: to fight an ideology, and that is what I as

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01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 12: and it appeals. It has a certain appeal. I think

1595
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 12: that that that that instruct us where to watch who

1596
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 12: might be susceptible, as you mentioned earlier, But it is

1597
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 12: an idea and that is always going to be the

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01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 12: most difficult one to try to control.

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01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 1: There you go, well, hopefully there's more good news about

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01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 1: something like this being put down rather than having us

1601
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 1: you do the reaction after so heads off to law

1602
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 1: enforcement and all those involved doing it, and save for

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01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 1: forrest through the second day of January twenty sixth, Doctor

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01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 1: Donashle like, thank you for making time in doing what

1605
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 1: you do. Former head of political science. She's Professor Meredith

1606
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 1: from Wright State University and Cincinnati's her hometown. Happy New

1607
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 1: Year to you and thank you, and we'll catch up

1608
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:34,559
Speaker 1: against him.

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01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 12: Talk to you soon.

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01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: Thanks Sterling, take care of yourself. More Sterling coming back

1611
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 1: your ten third reports straight away. Brady Hopkins has that,

1612
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 1: and we will get a little bit into this story.

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01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 1: It's horrific about this eleven year old girl who was

1614
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 1: gunned down in the park. Details straight away here seven

1615
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:58,640
Speaker 1: hundred WLW and already talk of a senseless killing and

1616
01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 1: Cincinnati year old girl shot killed playing in the West

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01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 1: End Thursday night, New Year's and it's just bewildering, to

1618
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 1: be honest with you. Laura playground, it's right there at

1619
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 1: West Liberty in John Street about six o'clock. Heard it

1620
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 1: on the news just a few minutes ago, Brady and

1621
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 1: wcpo's got a great coverage of this as well. Girl

1622
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 1: Queen heer a reed just eleven. So you're talking what fifth,

1623
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 1: sixth grade something like that. She's taken to children's hospital

1624
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:40,680
Speaker 1: after being a shot. She was playing with their relatives

1625
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 1: kids in the in the park and just one gunshot wound.

1626
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 1: Nobody at this point has been detained, as I understand it,

1627
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 1: or arrested. At this point. They are in search of

1628
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 1: and hoping that someone can point the finger and identify

1629
01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 1: individual responsible or individuals responsible for this. It is mind numbing.

1630
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 1: It is bewildering day after day, week after week, month

1631
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 1: after month, now year after year. And I know crime

1632
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 1: status that were just published recently showing a downtick and

1633
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:22,599
Speaker 1: crime generally across the country in most cities around the country,

1634
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 1: violent crime and so forth. But there are spots that

1635
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 1: it is an everyday occurrence. In one of those things

1636
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 1: that happens a lot, you know, in a neighborhood that

1637
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 1: has somewhere less than seven thousand people living there on

1638
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:42,759
Speaker 1: a very regular basis. Down there you get thirty people,

1639
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 1: forty people shot, as it's been reported time and time again.

1640
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 1: And what has been done. More street patrols have been

1641
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 1: talked about over this last summer. Obviously, you got you know,

1642
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 1: a former police chief who's on the sideline, interim police

1643
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 1: chief hand. He's come out to talk about how horrible

1644
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 1: this is, senseless act of violence and heartbreaking. Yeah, it is,

1645
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:06,080
Speaker 1: for sure, But I want to I just want what

1646
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 1: exactly is the deal with this, why is this going?

1647
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:13,760
Speaker 1: And we don't know who to blame at this point

1648
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 1: other than someone who was out there discharging a firearm

1649
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 1: who had no business one in their hand, in their

1650
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 1: possession doing dumb ass things, whether it was with deliberate

1651
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:25,599
Speaker 1: intent gunning down and firing at these kids, and this

1652
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 1: poor little girl eleven years old and her family dealing

1653
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:32,679
Speaker 1: with the aftermath of this, trying to make sense of it.

1654
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 1: It's just heart wrenching and it's hard to process. And

1655
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 1: one of the things that came up in the w

1656
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 1: cpo's report on this, they talked to Noah O'Brien's West

1657
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:48,799
Speaker 1: End Community Council member right there talking about the issue

1658
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 1: of violence in the neighborhood, says, you know, and in

1659
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 1: some of the stuff that we've talked about time and

1660
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 1: time again on my show, and you've heard it all

1661
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 1: over the Big One. You heard it being talked about

1662
01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 1: time and time again. You know, more police, more people

1663
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:06,640
Speaker 1: being more aware, the idea of deconcentrating poverty, which in

1664
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:08,760
Speaker 1: some cases I guess could be it. But you know what,

1665
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:10,560
Speaker 1: I grew up poor and I wasn't out on the

1666
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 1: street doing crime and hurting other people. So I don't

1667
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:18,040
Speaker 1: necessarily believe that poverty or being poor in that desperation

1668
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 1: is the causation of somebody gunning down a kid on

1669
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:24,639
Speaker 1: a playground, but certainly for a lot of other crime

1670
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 1: that's going on, perhaps you had that desperation and looking

1671
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:30,240
Speaker 1: to cash, you know, get cash that you worked for,

1672
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 1: that I worked for, or in the stuff that we've

1673
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 1: bought to grab to sell, or drug addle behavior, whatever

1674
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 1: else it is, I don't know. And then the other

1675
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 1: thing in this story that is and I wasn't there.

1676
01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:48,360
Speaker 1: Chances are you weren't there. This is the family's grieving

1677
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:50,240
Speaker 1: and dealing with this. They go to the hospital and

1678
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 1: apparently then there were issues in their communication and being

1679
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:57,840
Speaker 1: able to grieve and see the baby girl eleven years

1680
01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 1: old after she had passed in stoad up to it

1681
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 1: and waiting, as it's been reported to end up going

1682
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 1: to the funeral home to navigate that, which is a

1683
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:10,160
Speaker 1: whole nother layer of insult to injury if it's accurate

1684
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 1: as it's been reported in that type of circumstance. And

1685
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 1: I know people get emotional and so forth when you

1686
01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 1: have something like this happen. I want to open up

1687
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 1: the phones give you a chance to sound off. I

1688
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:24,599
Speaker 1: would like to know in all seriousness, because I mean,

1689
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 1: you know a lot of people come out there talk

1690
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 1: about you know what the solution is, how do you

1691
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 1: prevent this because we don't know who's responsible yet. I mean,

1692
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:35,439
Speaker 1: there was a story the other day. I think it's

1693
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:37,720
Speaker 1: a fourteen year old or an eleven year old is

1694
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:40,559
Speaker 1: ends up being held accountable for or held as a

1695
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:42,760
Speaker 1: result of a shooting of another kid. It was either

1696
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:44,880
Speaker 1: an eleven year old shooting a fourteen year old, a

1697
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:46,640
Speaker 1: fourteen year old shooting an eleven year old. I think

1698
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 1: it was up in Dayton. And this is happening all

1699
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:54,559
Speaker 1: over the place, even while overall crime violent crime has

1700
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 1: gone down. So I mean, it's all the usual things right,

1701
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:04,240
Speaker 1: got parenting, You could argue God needing to be more involved.

1702
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 1: Whatever it is, there's something missing from the individual's lives

1703
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:12,599
Speaker 1: who have decided that being quick to the gun. Whether

1704
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 1: it's a stolen firearm that somebody did not maintain control

1705
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:20,480
Speaker 1: of as they should, or someone who did not maintain

1706
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 1: control of it in the house and a kid gets

1707
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:25,960
Speaker 1: their hands on it, or it's criminals doing criminal stuff.

1708
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 1: And I have the opinion that you know what, it's

1709
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:35,280
Speaker 1: criminals killing criminals. I'm kind of alright with that, because

1710
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's just criminals doing criminal stuff. But

1711
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:44,120
Speaker 1: when it's individuals that are innocent, that are minding their

1712
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:47,600
Speaker 1: own business that are victims of either the crime or

1713
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 1: in this case, a senseless act of violence an eleven

1714
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:55,439
Speaker 1: year old child, it makes no sense to me. Five

1715
01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:58,680
Speaker 1: point three seven four nine seven, eight hundred the big one.

1716
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 1: You can use the talk bag feature on the iHeartRadio app.

1717
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 1: If you're streaming there, click on the microphone. I mean,

1718
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 1: what more can you do? I mean, you'd like to

1719
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:11,400
Speaker 1: be of the idea of prevention. You know, we're talking

1720
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 1: about more people on the street in law enforcement doing it,

1721
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:16,799
Speaker 1: and that's what they've done in Cincinnati with the Ohio

1722
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:20,080
Speaker 1: State Patrol and partnering up with them, and it has

1723
01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:22,600
Speaker 1: in fact beefed up felony arrest and getting some of

1724
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 1: those repeat offenders off the streets and going after those

1725
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 1: who already had warrants on them and getting them locked

1726
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 1: up and keeping them locked up. Because so much of

1727
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:33,600
Speaker 1: the crime and the stuff that makes the news and

1728
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:37,680
Speaker 1: the headlines are individuals who are in the business of

1729
01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 1: criminal behavior and repeat offenders. We don't know yet this

1730
01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:45,440
Speaker 1: particular case and who should be held accountable and culpable

1731
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 1: for this horrible thing. But what do you do? What

1732
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 1: do you tell this child's family, the mom and the kids,

1733
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:55,479
Speaker 1: they weren't they're not even from here, they were visiting

1734
01:32:55,479 --> 01:33:00,280
Speaker 1: for like the holiday. I mean, it's just horrible. I

1735
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 1: want to know what you think. To West Union, Steve's

1736
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:03,720
Speaker 1: first was Sterling on the Big One and room for

1737
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:07,320
Speaker 1: you five one, three, seven, nine hundred the Big One. Hey, Steve,

1738
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:07,720
Speaker 1: what do you know?

1739
01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:10,360
Speaker 5: Sterling?

1740
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 1: Happy New Year?

1741
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:13,719
Speaker 3: Hey?

1742
01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:17,479
Speaker 5: Doesn't everybody have a phone that has a camera on it?

1743
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:18,280
Speaker 1: Most of us?

1744
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:19,880
Speaker 13: Yeah?

1745
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:25,920
Speaker 5: How about we can do that with our cities. I mean,

1746
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:29,280
Speaker 5: how much could it cost? I mean, one little girl's life?

1747
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 5: But a million dollars? Two million dollars?

1748
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:36,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how you can't. Yeah, I

1749
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:38,920
Speaker 1: mean there are a lot of cameras all over the place,

1750
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:40,120
Speaker 1: but apparently not enough.

1751
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:46,360
Speaker 5: Eat More and zoning needs to change the rules when

1752
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:51,280
Speaker 5: they make playgrounds to put block walls attractive block walls

1753
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 5: around the playground to about five feet.

1754
01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:57,879
Speaker 3: That'll stop a lot of it.

1755
01:33:57,880 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 1: It could. Well, here's the other side. Then you have

1756
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 1: a wall, and then if you're in the park and

1757
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:05,240
Speaker 1: somebody wants to do no good inside the park, then

1758
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:07,240
Speaker 1: you're sort of trapped with the wall. You have to

1759
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:09,800
Speaker 1: then figure a way to get out and navigate it too.

1760
01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:12,719
Speaker 5: A lot of kids, they're going to make a fuss

1761
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 5: and parents are going to be in there and they're

1762
01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:18,080
Speaker 5: going to take care of business. But it's going to

1763
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:20,920
Speaker 5: stop drive by shootings across playgrounds.

1764
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 1: It could be. I'm not sure at this point, and

1765
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:26,200
Speaker 1: I was looking at trying to find every bit of

1766
01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:28,640
Speaker 1: information I could about this, because I try to have

1767
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:30,840
Speaker 1: half an idea what I'm talking about before I open

1768
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 1: my mouth, though it may not always sound like it.

1769
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:39,000
Speaker 5: Technology has the solution out there. You just got to

1770
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:42,599
Speaker 5: put it where it needs to be. And the Cinnati

1771
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 5: is not necessarily doing that because they're very reactive and

1772
01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 5: they don't do things until something really bad happens. Another

1773
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:55,840
Speaker 5: thing that I'm a little bit concerned with was these

1774
01:34:55,880 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 5: people when they took their when their daughter was taken emergency,

1775
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:02,639
Speaker 5: they were treated very badly.

1776
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 1: That's what I've heard too.

1777
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 5: And I think that's just atrocious. What it does. It

1778
01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:13,400
Speaker 5: happen so much that these people are just numb to

1779
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:14,760
Speaker 5: it and just don't care.

1780
01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:15,719
Speaker 3: Well.

1781
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:18,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I would like to know what happened, and

1782
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 1: they're going to have to wade through it, and the

1783
01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:23,439
Speaker 1: hospital is going to have to figure out how they

1784
01:35:23,479 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 1: put a good spin on it. But it is a

1785
01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:28,840
Speaker 1: bad look if it as as reported that this went

1786
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:31,560
Speaker 1: down that way, And you know, people get very emotional

1787
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:34,559
Speaker 1: sometimes and it's hard to navigate maybe a large group

1788
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:37,320
Speaker 1: of people. But I wasn't there. I didn't witness it.

1789
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:39,320
Speaker 1: I haven't seen any video of it. But what it

1790
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:43,120
Speaker 1: has been described as this situation as you're talking about, Yeah,

1791
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 1: it sounds like the family was treated less than decently.

1792
01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:50,360
Speaker 5: The thing is that if you have the cameras in place,

1793
01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:55,320
Speaker 5: you're going to catch these culprints a lot because you

1794
01:35:55,320 --> 01:36:00,560
Speaker 5: don't have film, and it'll stop eventually. I can't imagine

1795
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:05,519
Speaker 5: there's more than six five hundred thugs and Cincinnati making

1796
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 5: it awful forever money.

1797
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's what they've talked about, and that's one

1798
01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 1: of the things that they've tried to go after these

1799
01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:14,680
Speaker 1: felony warrants in these repeat offenders because it is a

1800
01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:17,160
Speaker 1: small number of people generally that they're wreaking a lot

1801
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:19,160
Speaker 1: of the having Steve, I appreciate the comment. Thank you,

1802
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:20,680
Speaker 1: and have a great new year. It's good to talk

1803
01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 1: to you. I'm sorry it's about a horrible topic like this,

1804
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:25,160
Speaker 1: but I figured it needed to be talked about. Take

1805
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:32,760
Speaker 1: care of yourself, Steve. Thanks. You know it's for a

1806
01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:35,200
Speaker 1: talk show host to be speechless is probably not a

1807
01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:39,479
Speaker 1: great thing to admit. But I really have a hard

1808
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:46,519
Speaker 1: time just understanding, you know, and we don't know who's

1809
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:50,519
Speaker 1: responsible yet for this. Kids should be able to go

1810
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 1: to a park six o'clock. I mean it's you know,

1811
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:58,439
Speaker 1: it maybe after dark, but there's lights and it's six o'clock,

1812
01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:00,599
Speaker 1: and you figure the park could be a safe place

1813
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:02,400
Speaker 1: to go and it's not something you should have to

1814
01:37:02,439 --> 01:37:07,080
Speaker 1: worry about, is you know, gunfire and rounds whizzing by

1815
01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:10,840
Speaker 1: your head or you know, killing your child at eleven

1816
01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:14,360
Speaker 1: years old? Who you would think the park is where

1817
01:37:14,360 --> 01:37:17,360
Speaker 1: you'd be safe in doing what you're supposed to be doing,

1818
01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:21,599
Speaker 1: which is playing in off the street in a way

1819
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:27,040
Speaker 1: from trouble. And you know, whether it's somebody out there

1820
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:30,920
Speaker 1: firing rounds indiscriminately from a distance, or if it was

1821
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 1: something more intentional directly or otherwise you know, if not

1822
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:39,679
Speaker 1: negligent either way, somebody should be held accountable. And too

1823
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:45,280
Speaker 1: many stories, I mean just in the last week to

1824
01:37:45,320 --> 01:37:49,080
Speaker 1: ten days, and I mentioned this on the show that

1825
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 1: it was in New Year's Eve, and I talked about

1826
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:58,280
Speaker 1: my time in New Orleans and celebratory gunfire, which is

1827
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:04,680
Speaker 1: really a misnomer to me in that it's commonplace for

1828
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:07,760
Speaker 1: people to pop off some rounds for New Year's or

1829
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:11,920
Speaker 1: pop off some rounds because it's Christmas, or pick another

1830
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:15,559
Speaker 1: reason to celebrate. I've never once thought I'd grab a

1831
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:18,719
Speaker 1: weapon out of the box at home or the closet

1832
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:23,080
Speaker 1: or whatever and go out and fire some rounds up

1833
01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:26,240
Speaker 1: into the sky. And in New Orleans, what happened New

1834
01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:28,720
Speaker 1: Years years ago when I was there working before I

1835
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:32,640
Speaker 1: came back home to Cincinnati and Ohio, here is a

1836
01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:38,920
Speaker 1: woman ended up fallingbeknownst to anyone around or initially trying

1837
01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:41,200
Speaker 1: to figure out what happened to her. Because she collapsed

1838
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:43,160
Speaker 1: is because she took a round to the top of

1839
01:38:43,160 --> 01:38:46,280
Speaker 1: her head because somebody was firing into the sky to

1840
01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:50,760
Speaker 1: celebrate the New year, and it dropped her dead. And

1841
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:53,040
Speaker 1: there was a story in the last week to ten

1842
01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:55,519
Speaker 1: days about a guy who had a new weapon, and

1843
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:58,920
Speaker 1: he went out in his backyard and started, you know,

1844
01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 1: a target practice it like a can or a couple

1845
01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:07,440
Speaker 1: of cans, and apparently that one round of his travels

1846
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:10,599
Speaker 1: a couple of blocks, because yeah, they don't just stop

1847
01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:13,880
Speaker 1: where you want the round to stop, and then ended

1848
01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:15,760
Speaker 1: up hitting an older woman who had a baby in

1849
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:18,559
Speaker 1: her arms. Thankfully didn't hit the child, but it hit

1850
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:20,920
Speaker 1: her either threw her arm, clipped her arm and into

1851
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 1: her chest cavity, and ended up killing her. So, whether

1852
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:30,760
Speaker 1: it's indiscriminate gunfire to the sky, somebody else being an

1853
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:34,240
Speaker 1: idiot and a moron firing target practice without a proper

1854
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:37,760
Speaker 1: stop to keep those around them safe, or if it

1855
01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:40,320
Speaker 1: was someone up to no good driving around looking to

1856
01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:44,559
Speaker 1: gun people down, or someone indiscriminately firing her weapons, someone

1857
01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:47,439
Speaker 1: needs to be found and held accountable for this. And

1858
01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:50,360
Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned, if it's a parent that

1859
01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:53,200
Speaker 1: had a weapon that got into the hands of a

1860
01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:55,920
Speaker 1: child who shouldn't have had it, then the parents need

1861
01:39:55,920 --> 01:40:00,439
Speaker 1: to be held responsible for not maintaining control of that firearm.

1862
01:40:00,760 --> 01:40:03,679
Speaker 1: And that's in any situation, not just one here where

1863
01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:08,240
Speaker 1: it ends up somebody you know, loses their child. It's devastating.

1864
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:14,000
Speaker 1: I mean it, And I don't want to sound like

1865
01:40:14,120 --> 01:40:17,200
Speaker 1: ranning and raving and you know and hate mongering or

1866
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:22,760
Speaker 1: anything else. But it's just unnecessary. Life's hard enough, you know,

1867
01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:25,840
Speaker 1: celebrate New Year's hanging out with family, You're at the park.

1868
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:29,000
Speaker 1: You should be safe. You shouldn't have to worry about this.

1869
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:33,120
Speaker 1: Let's get Jake here seven hundred WLW with Sterling Jake,

1870
01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:34,400
Speaker 1: thanks for holding Happy New Year.

1871
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:36,719
Speaker 3: What's up, hey, Charlotte, happening here?

1872
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:41,240
Speaker 13: You know, I went to the University of Cincinnati in

1873
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:46,720
Speaker 13: the nineties early nineties, and I experienced I don't think

1874
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:52,439
Speaker 13: it's changed much. It's I got into a situation where

1875
01:40:52,439 --> 01:40:55,840
Speaker 13: we were just oking up. We were guys getting ready

1876
01:40:55,880 --> 01:41:00,120
Speaker 13: to go to a party liberally on East University air

1877
01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:03,680
Speaker 13: sided short ning and a couple of young guys come

1878
01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:07,120
Speaker 13: up to us. We were loading up beers like there

1879
01:41:07,160 --> 01:41:07,839
Speaker 13: was some beers.

1880
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:08,960
Speaker 4: No, we don't want that.

1881
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:10,680
Speaker 3: We just let us go.

1882
01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:10,920
Speaker 5: You know.

1883
01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:12,240
Speaker 3: Nexty, I know, I'm in a.

1884
01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:16,320
Speaker 13: Fight, leaning in the middle of the road. Tops come by,

1885
01:41:16,439 --> 01:41:21,639
Speaker 13: don't do anything fight, and I'm running with like, let's

1886
01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:23,519
Speaker 13: get out of here on my ale.

1887
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:26,200
Speaker 10: Let's know, I run down to the.

1888
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:29,519
Speaker 13: Corner park old with young people.

1889
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 14: Uh.

1890
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:34,760
Speaker 13: Oh, I ain't gonna fight all them. Next you know,

1891
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:38,439
Speaker 13: young kids run up to me. Fire's a gun off

1892
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:44,000
Speaker 13: next to my head. No, no, no, it's still to

1893
01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:48,479
Speaker 13: this day something I don't forget. I didn't know if

1894
01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:49,760
Speaker 13: I was dead or ali at the time.

1895
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:52,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, you tend to remember when somebody points a gun

1896
01:41:52,439 --> 01:41:55,160
Speaker 1: at you or discharges it close to you in a

1897
01:41:55,240 --> 01:41:58,360
Speaker 1: threatening manner. I had a guy in the furniture store

1898
01:41:58,439 --> 01:41:59,800
Speaker 1: my mom worked at when I was a kid. I

1899
01:41:59,800 --> 01:42:01,600
Speaker 1: don't think I was yet six. I don't think I

1900
01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:04,320
Speaker 1: was in kindergarten maybe first grade of most and they

1901
01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:07,000
Speaker 1: came in and robbed the furniture store, and they put

1902
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:08,439
Speaker 1: a gun in my face, told me to go to

1903
01:42:08,439 --> 01:42:11,160
Speaker 1: the bathroom and stay there. They couldn't find me after.

1904
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:13,320
Speaker 1: You know, when the police came, initially they were trying

1905
01:42:13,320 --> 01:42:16,080
Speaker 1: to figure out where I had gone because I kind

1906
01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:17,680
Speaker 1: of picked up on the idea that the gun in

1907
01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:20,600
Speaker 1: my face was fairly serious. And I stayed in that

1908
01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:23,360
Speaker 1: bathroom until they were like, hey, where are you? Because

1909
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:27,320
Speaker 1: you know, I realized the danger. It will rattle you.

1910
01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 1: It stays with you.

1911
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:30,800
Speaker 3: Oh, it did it completely. And the thing was.

1912
01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:33,040
Speaker 6: You know, I lived in the dorm there and.

1913
01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:38,360
Speaker 13: On campus and I lived off campus, and it's really

1914
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 13: not changed much. I mean from what i'm I have

1915
01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:43,640
Speaker 13: lived there in years. I'm fifty now. I mean that

1916
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Speaker 13: was twenty five years ago. But from what here now,

1917
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Speaker 13: it wasn't safe in the nineties. In the early nineties.

1918
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Speaker 3: I mean, we had we.

1919
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Speaker 13: Went to a concert at Bogart's one time when we

1920
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Speaker 13: parked down the road from there, and it was I

1921
01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:02,680
Speaker 13: there's a Catholic church there where it's just below the

1922
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Speaker 13: road level, and some young punks come up and just

1923
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:12,400
Speaker 13: started urinating on the front of the car above huh,

1924
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Speaker 13: and we ran to get police. They did eventually show up,

1925
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Speaker 13: and then but before that they came down and ran down,

1926
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Speaker 13: you know. I mean, it was just it was not

1927
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Speaker 13: a fun time in the nineties either.

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Speaker 1: No, it wasn't. I can remember when I was before

1929
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Speaker 1: Kisses Kiss one O seven. It was Channel Z and

1930
01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:32,559
Speaker 1: I had a lot of knights, of bowguards, a lot

1931
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Speaker 1: of clubs and around their top cats, et cetera, short

1932
01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:38,320
Speaker 1: vine all that, you know, and regularly it was a

1933
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Speaker 1: lot of skater punks and others begging for change, meth

1934
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:44,000
Speaker 1: heads and that type of thing. And uh yeah, I

1935
01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:46,600
Speaker 1: mean I think every there's always going to be a

1936
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Speaker 1: little of that. It's kind of like when you turn

1937
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Speaker 1: a light on and roaches flee. That's kind of one

1938
01:43:51,160 --> 01:43:52,639
Speaker 1: of a better way to say it that I think

1939
01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:55,040
Speaker 1: a lot of that is and it's constant, but you

1940
01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:57,960
Speaker 1: can't condone it. And it's the little stuff too, you know.

1941
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Speaker 1: And that's the thing. I just don't know how you

1942
01:43:59,560 --> 01:44:02,160
Speaker 1: explained of somebody that they're eleven year old kid is

1943
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Speaker 1: dead because they went to a playground on New Year's

1944
01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:08,680
Speaker 1: Day and didn't get out of the park alive. Effectively,

1945
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:10,599
Speaker 1: it's insane.

1946
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Speaker 13: It's the youth they need since there's a big.

1947
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Speaker 3: Problem with it.

1948
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know where is no Jake, I

1949
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Speaker 1: appreciate the comment. I hope you have a great New year.

1950
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Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing that. I'm sorry you've dealt with that.

1951
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Speaker 1: And here's the thing, I've been really lucky in that.

1952
01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:29,160
Speaker 1: I Mean a lot of people tell me how scared

1953
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:32,160
Speaker 1: or uncomfortable they are going here or there around downtown

1954
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:35,720
Speaker 1: or OTR or other places, and maybe I'm I'm an

1955
01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:38,960
Speaker 1: idiot or something. I mean, I try to be aware.

1956
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:43,880
Speaker 1: I've been raised to be aware. But I go to restaurants,

1957
01:44:44,040 --> 01:44:46,880
Speaker 1: I go get drinks here and there, and I've been

1958
01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:49,519
Speaker 1: lucky to not have, you know, many problems aside from

1959
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:52,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mentioned as a kid the first time,

1960
01:44:52,160 --> 01:44:54,200
Speaker 1: and I've had somebody pointing gout to me more than once.

1961
01:44:54,720 --> 01:44:57,639
Speaker 1: But it does rattle you, it will stick with you.

1962
01:44:57,880 --> 01:45:00,720
Speaker 1: And you know, I was always raised in tall subsequent

1963
01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:04,200
Speaker 1: to that, you know, you don't point a weapon at

1964
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Speaker 1: somebody or something unless you plan to destroy it or

1965
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:09,720
Speaker 1: are willing to do so. So I tend to take

1966
01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 1: that fairly seriously. But we have a major problem with

1967
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 1: a devaluation of life in a lot of circles, and

1968
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:23,040
Speaker 1: the quick nature of solution and problem solving with a

1969
01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:26,960
Speaker 1: gun rather than other ways to de escalate, and the

1970
01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:30,919
Speaker 1: value of life for certain people is very small, including

1971
01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:36,320
Speaker 1: their own self respect. And that is you know, not

1972
01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:39,920
Speaker 1: knowing who's responsible for the shooting of this eleven year

1973
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:43,639
Speaker 1: old child and taking her life. But just in general,

1974
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:46,479
Speaker 1: we have a problem with that, even though overall our

1975
01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:51,000
Speaker 1: crime numbers are down around the country, it is a

1976
01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:54,519
Speaker 1: systemic issue. It is a sickness of some sort, and

1977
01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:56,960
Speaker 1: I guess there is no real easy way to get

1978
01:45:57,000 --> 01:45:58,920
Speaker 1: to a solution. My heart goes out to this family

1979
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Speaker 1: and I hope they get some justice and someone will

1980
01:46:02,080 --> 01:46:05,760
Speaker 1: be able to speak to those responsible for this to

1981
01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:08,479
Speaker 1: pay a price for taking this girl's life and putting

1982
01:46:08,479 --> 01:46:11,559
Speaker 1: this family through the pain that they're going through. Your

1983
01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:14,360
Speaker 1: eleven o'clock report is straight away. I had a conversation

1984
01:46:14,439 --> 01:46:18,000
Speaker 1: with University of Cincinnati's doctor Christino Day about living better

1985
01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:20,240
Speaker 1: in the new year. An update on the flu which

1986
01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:24,000
Speaker 1: is getting around pretty nasty, and maybe some over over

1987
01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:28,120
Speaker 1: indulgence still going on this New Year's weekend with a

1988
01:46:28,120 --> 01:46:31,439
Speaker 1: whole lot of people partying and probably having some issues

1989
01:46:31,439 --> 01:46:34,599
Speaker 1: with dehydration and hangovers. That's coming up after your eleven

1990
01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:37,639
Speaker 1: o'clock report. Right here on the home of the football

1991
01:46:37,640 --> 01:46:41,160
Speaker 1: Bearcats who lost in Liberty Bowl earlier tonight, you got

1992
01:46:41,160 --> 01:46:43,880
Speaker 1: some basketball bear Cats in action. Tomorrow, you got the

1993
01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:46,519
Speaker 1: Bengals in action Sunday to wrap up this season with

1994
01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:48,960
Speaker 1: the Browns coming to town. And this is the home

1995
01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:52,800
Speaker 1: of the best Bengals coverage. News Radio seven hundred WLW

1996
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:58,280
Speaker 1: Cincinnati seven hundred w Welw Sterling hanging out, trying to

1997
01:46:58,280 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 1: be healthier on a New Years My first resolution this

1998
01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:03,680
Speaker 1: is the second New Year's in ear row where I

1999
01:47:03,800 --> 01:47:06,360
Speaker 1: found myself with what my Anileen would call it the croup.

2000
01:47:06,439 --> 01:47:09,320
Speaker 1: I think some people call it maybe bronchias. The flu

2001
01:47:09,479 --> 01:47:12,240
Speaker 1: is going around big time, and what I initially thought

2002
01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:15,320
Speaker 1: it was was allergies, but clearly I've got something more.

2003
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:18,200
Speaker 1: But thankfully on the phone, not in person, not having

2004
01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:21,639
Speaker 1: to deal with that possibility. Is doctor Christine O'Day from

2005
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Speaker 1: UC Health. Welcome to seven hundred w welw, Happy New Year.

2006
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Speaker 14: Happy New Year, Thanks so much for having me.

2007
01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:31,400
Speaker 1: Let's start with flu stuff before we start talking maybe

2008
01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:34,479
Speaker 1: about resolutions and living better and people hitting the bottle

2009
01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:36,400
Speaker 1: of New Year's who were amateurs who need to like

2010
01:47:36,439 --> 01:47:39,719
Speaker 1: reevaluate some things, maybe even right now, hopefully not behind

2011
01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:43,519
Speaker 1: the wheel. So doctor oday, flu season, because and I

2012
01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:45,920
Speaker 1: kind of sickly, I called the doctor like, don't come here.

2013
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Speaker 1: How bad is this flu season?

2014
01:47:49,360 --> 01:47:53,000
Speaker 14: Well, we're definitely seeing that cases are on the rise

2015
01:47:53,040 --> 01:47:56,559
Speaker 14: over the last few weeks. You know, we see this

2016
01:47:56,720 --> 01:48:00,919
Speaker 14: often during the holidays, when people are inside, they're at parties,

2017
01:48:00,960 --> 01:48:04,720
Speaker 14: they're exposed to a lot of germs. So we're definitely

2018
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:10,760
Speaker 14: seeing a rise in influenza in particular, and particular influenza A,

2019
01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 14: and so it is definitely going up at this time

2020
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Speaker 14: of year.

2021
01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:18,840
Speaker 1: I was good. I tend to get my shots. I

2022
01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:21,240
Speaker 1: take the dog and then I go to my pharmacy

2023
01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:23,600
Speaker 1: and get my jabs as well with the covid, the

2024
01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:26,160
Speaker 1: flu vaccine and everything. You mentioned the type of a

2025
01:48:26,320 --> 01:48:29,920
Speaker 1: strain I guess of this flu doctor oday. So this

2026
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:33,479
Speaker 1: from what I understand, the prevalent see of that is

2027
01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:36,080
Speaker 1: not exactly what was under the umbrella of what this

2028
01:48:36,200 --> 01:48:38,639
Speaker 1: flu shot was targeting. But the flu shot still helps,

2029
01:48:38,680 --> 01:48:39,320
Speaker 1: is that correct?

2030
01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:45,000
Speaker 14: That's correct. We are seeing a new variant, and you know,

2031
01:48:45,080 --> 01:48:49,880
Speaker 14: the influenza virus does change every year. That's why we

2032
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:52,920
Speaker 14: have to get a flu shot every year, because we

2033
01:48:53,320 --> 01:48:57,280
Speaker 14: create a new flu vaccine to cover whatever variants we

2034
01:48:57,360 --> 01:49:00,720
Speaker 14: think are going to be out there. There is a

2035
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:06,200
Speaker 14: new variant that is partially covered by this by the

2036
01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:08,960
Speaker 14: flu shot that's out there, So we encourage people for

2037
01:49:09,000 --> 01:49:13,920
Speaker 14: sure to get their flu shot. The new variant is

2038
01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:18,120
Speaker 14: we think maybe causing a little bit more severe of

2039
01:49:18,720 --> 01:49:23,320
Speaker 14: a flu season, and so it is important to take

2040
01:49:23,400 --> 01:49:26,720
Speaker 14: all precautions that you can in terms of first of all,

2041
01:49:26,760 --> 01:49:30,240
Speaker 14: getting the flu shot, like you said, and you know,

2042
01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:34,120
Speaker 14: doing what you can to stay healthy, so eating well

2043
01:49:34,200 --> 01:49:39,919
Speaker 14: and healthy, getting enough sleep, drinking enough fluids, and certainly

2044
01:49:40,040 --> 01:49:43,160
Speaker 14: if you're sick, if you have a cough, cold fever,

2045
01:49:43,680 --> 01:49:46,240
Speaker 14: stay home if you can. If you have to go out,

2046
01:49:47,439 --> 01:49:50,360
Speaker 14: wear a mask so you're not passing those germs along

2047
01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:51,120
Speaker 14: to other people.

2048
01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:53,920
Speaker 1: Yes, this is the season of sharing germs and a

2049
01:49:53,920 --> 01:49:56,040
Speaker 1: whole lot of celebration and stuff along with it. From

2050
01:49:56,120 --> 01:49:59,599
Speaker 1: University of Cincinnati. It's a doctor Christine O'Day was sterling

2051
01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:03,240
Speaker 1: men eating better and sleeping which I could do better

2052
01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:06,559
Speaker 1: of hydrating in the right fluids, right, and we're not

2053
01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:09,840
Speaker 1: necessarily talking about boozing it up in celebration and maybe

2054
01:50:09,880 --> 01:50:12,519
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks with the holidays, how bad

2055
01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:17,439
Speaker 1: does that stretch of holiday celebration affect people as they

2056
01:50:17,520 --> 01:50:20,240
Speaker 1: start thinking into the new year of living better? Because

2057
01:50:20,439 --> 01:50:22,120
Speaker 1: that's one of those things that I'm always trying to

2058
01:50:22,120 --> 01:50:24,519
Speaker 1: talk about on the show and just in life, which

2059
01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:26,240
Speaker 1: is to try to get to the next level and

2060
01:50:26,320 --> 01:50:29,559
Speaker 1: hopefully stick around healthier longer. On this a little big

2061
01:50:29,600 --> 01:50:31,280
Speaker 1: blue marble, I guess is what we want to call it.

2062
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Speaker 14: A earth Well, I think you know, the New Year

2063
01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:37,719
Speaker 14: is a really good time to kind of think about

2064
01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:41,920
Speaker 14: how do we get healthy. Certainly during the holidays, many

2065
01:50:41,960 --> 01:50:44,680
Speaker 14: of us kind of fall out of our usual routines.

2066
01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:47,920
Speaker 14: Maybe we don't exercise as much as usual, and we're

2067
01:50:48,439 --> 01:50:52,320
Speaker 14: eating foods that are maybe not as healthy as we

2068
01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:52,880
Speaker 14: would like.

2069
01:50:52,920 --> 01:50:55,479
Speaker 1: But they're so good. Why are all the bad foods,

2070
01:50:55,479 --> 01:50:58,480
Speaker 1: by the way, doctor O'Day so good? Seriously?

2071
01:51:00,560 --> 01:51:04,040
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, it's tough, but there's lots of really good

2072
01:51:04,040 --> 01:51:07,479
Speaker 14: foods that are healthy, right, True is a good time

2073
01:51:07,720 --> 01:51:09,640
Speaker 14: at the new year to kind of get back on

2074
01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:15,120
Speaker 14: the bandwagon and to maybe set some goals for yourself

2075
01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:18,400
Speaker 14: to become a little bit more healthy. And you know,

2076
01:51:18,520 --> 01:51:21,760
Speaker 14: it's it's hard to make changes. It's hard to make

2077
01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:24,800
Speaker 14: a lot of big changes all at once. So what

2078
01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:28,799
Speaker 14: I really encourage patients to do is to maybe choose

2079
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:32,960
Speaker 14: one small thing to work on. Instead of just saying

2080
01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:37,040
Speaker 14: I'm gonna try to live healthier or try to change

2081
01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:41,200
Speaker 14: my diet, maybe just choose one thing and work on that.

2082
01:51:41,280 --> 01:51:47,040
Speaker 14: So we talk about things like smart goals, where s

2083
01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:50,080
Speaker 14: is a specifical So instead of saying I'm just gonna

2084
01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:53,400
Speaker 14: eat healthier, maybe say, Okay, I'm going to try to

2085
01:51:53,439 --> 01:51:57,519
Speaker 14: eat more fruits and vegetables as my specific goal. And

2086
01:51:57,600 --> 01:52:01,080
Speaker 14: then M stands for measurable seat of just more fruits

2087
01:52:01,120 --> 01:52:04,280
Speaker 14: and vegetables. Set a goal of say, three fruits and

2088
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:09,400
Speaker 14: vegetables every day, and make it something achievable, something that

2089
01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:12,200
Speaker 14: you can actually change in your diet or something that

2090
01:52:12,240 --> 01:52:17,040
Speaker 14: you can change in your life. Our stands for reasonable relevant,

2091
01:52:17,880 --> 01:52:20,439
Speaker 14: something that you feel like you can actually achieve. And

2092
01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:24,720
Speaker 14: then finally, TEA stands for time, So that means that

2093
01:52:25,200 --> 01:52:28,840
Speaker 14: you set a time bound goal for yourself so that

2094
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:32,679
Speaker 14: I'm going to start eating three fruits and vegetables every

2095
01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:36,520
Speaker 14: day for the next month, and then you can celebrate

2096
01:52:36,600 --> 01:52:42,040
Speaker 14: those those small changes and celebrate those winds, and that

2097
01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:46,360
Speaker 14: makes it a little bit easier and I think it's

2098
01:52:46,400 --> 01:52:49,920
Speaker 14: more achievable to actually make those changes.

2099
01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:52,640
Speaker 1: So baby steps, So we do that, don't we. We make

2100
01:52:52,680 --> 01:52:55,240
Speaker 1: these grand ideas that we put in front of us

2101
01:52:55,400 --> 01:52:57,840
Speaker 1: that are challenging, and then within the first quarter of

2102
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Speaker 1: the new year, you know, I'm going to go to

2103
01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:01,719
Speaker 1: the gym every week, I'm going to let me eat better,

2104
01:53:01,800 --> 01:53:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to drink less, I'm going to sleep all

2105
01:53:04,120 --> 01:53:06,840
Speaker 1: these things that we just talked about doctor oday. And

2106
01:53:06,880 --> 01:53:11,040
Speaker 1: then people are disillusions, dissatisfied, and they're off the rails

2107
01:53:11,120 --> 01:53:14,719
Speaker 1: before summer gets here. So I guess living better maybe

2108
01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:17,479
Speaker 1: I want to say living better through lowered expectations, but

2109
01:53:17,720 --> 01:53:21,040
Speaker 1: just small incremental changes can make a big difference.

2110
01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:26,400
Speaker 14: Yeah, absolutely, I think that really helps a lot because

2111
01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:30,640
Speaker 14: you get more motivated than when you've achieved something, and

2112
01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:35,360
Speaker 14: then you can move on to your next, smaller, next goal. Right, So,

2113
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Speaker 14: once you say, set a goal to start exercising and

2114
01:53:39,439 --> 01:53:43,120
Speaker 14: walking maybe fifteen minutes three times a week, then you

2115
01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:46,519
Speaker 14: can increase that to twenty minutes. And once you've done that,

2116
01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:48,880
Speaker 14: then you can increase it a little bit more, and

2117
01:53:48,920 --> 01:53:51,799
Speaker 14: so it's a little bit easier to make those changes.

2118
01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:56,200
Speaker 14: So and I also encourage folks to write those goals

2119
01:53:56,240 --> 01:53:59,960
Speaker 14: down and share them with somebody, so it's always easier

2120
01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:02,680
Speaker 14: to do something. Is that a goal? When you have

2121
01:54:02,720 --> 01:54:06,640
Speaker 14: a partner, you know who you're accountable to, and that

2122
01:54:06,720 --> 01:54:09,080
Speaker 14: maybe you're working on the same goal together.

2123
01:54:09,280 --> 01:54:10,720
Speaker 1: The thing text you and call you and tell you

2124
01:54:10,840 --> 01:54:12,400
Speaker 1: to get out of the house and that you're supposed

2125
01:54:12,400 --> 01:54:14,559
Speaker 1: to be here now go. You know that kind of scenario.

2126
01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:16,720
Speaker 1: It does help to have a buddy and working out

2127
01:54:16,800 --> 01:54:20,040
Speaker 1: or anything else. Absolutely, Doctor Christino Days from University of

2128
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Speaker 1: Cincinnati talking about living better in the new year. Who's

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Speaker 1: worse at taking care of themselves? Men or women? I

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Speaker 1: get told that. You know, I can't speak for all dudes,

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Speaker 1: but I can say that we maybe are a little

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Speaker 1: bit more animated in wine, in our misery, whether it's

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Speaker 1: the sickness that I have now or other stuff, compared

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Speaker 1: to women. But overall with caring for ourselves, is there

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Speaker 1: a trait that men or women in one way or

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Speaker 1: the other are better or worse?

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Speaker 14: You know, I'm not sure that I know the answer

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Speaker 14: to that, nor do I want to weigh in on

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Speaker 14: that one. But it's a good question. But now, how

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Speaker 14: was the time of year for all of us to

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Speaker 14: kind of work on that?

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Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I think so. It's just one of

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Speaker 1: those things. I think a lot of us guys will

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Speaker 1: put stuff off, oftentimes not being proactive. We'll think about

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Speaker 1: it and take care of the car better than we

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Speaker 1: do ourselves sometimes with just regular maintenance.

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Speaker 14: Well, you know, I think it's always good to have

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Speaker 14: a partner who is going to support you in your

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Speaker 14: lifestyle and health goals. Right, Yeah, And so you know,

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Speaker 14: having somebody who can encourage you. First of all, like

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Speaker 14: to eat healthy and being around somebody who's also eating

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Speaker 14: healthy is really important. And also somebody who's going to

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Speaker 14: encourage you to, for example, get a primary care provider

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Speaker 14: if you don't have one, and see your you know,

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Speaker 14: your primary care provider regularly. It's just good to be

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Speaker 14: around people who are going to support you in a

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Speaker 14: healthy lifestyle.

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Speaker 1: Talking to doctor Christino Day from University of Cincinnati, and

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Speaker 1: you've worked a little bit more with accessibility in primary

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Speaker 1: care situations around the tri State with you see as well.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, absolutely. Our goal that you see is for everybody

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Speaker 14: to be able to have a primary care provider and

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Speaker 14: to make Cincinnati a healthy city, and we know that

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Speaker 14: primary care providers are really an important way to.

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Speaker 3: Do that.

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Speaker 14: So you know, if somebody doesn't have a primary care provider,

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Speaker 14: I do encourage them to reach out and establish before

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Speaker 14: you get sick, and also then you can so when

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Speaker 14: you get sick you have somebody to call, but also

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Speaker 14: to check in once a year just to make sure

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Speaker 14: that you're up to date on all the health maintenance.

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Speaker 14: There's a lot of immunizations now that are available and

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Speaker 14: important for adults to get as well as kids. And

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Speaker 14: also there's just a lot of important screenings that need

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Speaker 14: to be done for things like breast cancer screening, cervical

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Speaker 14: cancer screening, colon cancer screening. So I do encourage people

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Speaker 14: to get a primary care provider and establish and see

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Speaker 14: them regularly.

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Speaker 1: And doctor Christino days a share of family and community medicine.

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Speaker 1: You see hell Sterling seven hundred WLW New Year's Eve

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Speaker 1: a lot of people out and about, but oftentimes it's

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Speaker 1: amateur night. It's people that over indulge, who don't drink

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Speaker 1: very much at all, if ever, and then they end

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Speaker 1: up a mess and hungover and miserable with a brown

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Speaker 1: bag flu to in this case because of the way

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Speaker 1: the New Year falls, maybe skipping out work if they

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Speaker 1: don't already have time off, or just miserable and more

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Speaker 1: vulnerable for some of this flu and other stuff there too.

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Speaker 1: What do you tell people who are out and about

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Speaker 1: tonight or are going to be even at home maybe listening,

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Speaker 1: we're probably hitting it a little bit harder than normal.

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Speaker 1: How do they avoid ending up waking up absolutely miserable

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Speaker 1: with that head throb and trying to figure out what

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Speaker 1: food they should eat or have hair of the dog

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Speaker 1: of the bite.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, so we're learning so much more about how alcohol

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Speaker 14: affects our bodies. And really what we're learning is that

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Speaker 14: there's no safe amount of alcohol.

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Speaker 1: So the horrible I mean seriously, I think bourgelais nouveaux

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Speaker 1: up in Mount Adams, so no alcohol at all. So

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Speaker 1: the idea of moderation isn't even really a good idea.

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Speaker 14: Well, what I'm saying is that there if you're going

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Speaker 14: to drink, drink and moderation. What we recommend for women

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Speaker 14: is no more than two drinks per sitting and for

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Speaker 14: men no more than three drinks per sitting. And what

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Speaker 14: we define as a drink is a twelve ounce bottle

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Speaker 14: of beer, six ounces of wine, or one shot, And

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Speaker 14: so if you choose to drink, limit it to that amount.

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Speaker 14: If you're going to be drinking, make sure you're drinking,

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Speaker 14: you're drinking lots of fluids and non alcoholic beverages as well.

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Speaker 14: Make sure that you're eating while you're drinking as well,

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Speaker 14: and that you're kind of pacting yourself so that you're

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Speaker 14: not drinking very quickly, that you're spacing it out over

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Speaker 14: the course of the evening.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the older we get, we get more experience.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of times you think of college kids

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Speaker 1: and so forth, who you know are just out free

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Speaker 1: for the first time in their lives, over indulging in

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Speaker 1: sort of learning the hard way with it. But it

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Speaker 1: seems like this continues for a lot of us grown

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Speaker 1: ups as well, around the holidays, New Years, et cetera.

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Speaker 5: Two.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, Yeah, alcohol does affect our bodies, and it affects our

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Speaker 14: liver and affects our blood pressure, our hearts, and so

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Speaker 14: as we're learning more about alcohol, we realize that it

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Speaker 14: really can have quite a bit of effects negative effects

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Speaker 14: on our body. So if you're going to drink, you know,

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Speaker 14: drink and moderation and make sure that you're drinking lots

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Speaker 14: of other fluids as well and eating at the same time.

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Speaker 1: Talking to doctor Christino day Chair Family and Community Medicine,

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Speaker 1: you see how Sterling seven hundred w welw final question here.

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Speaker 1: When I was in Las Veig, just working before I

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Speaker 1: came back here some years ago, I had a guy

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Speaker 1: on the show and he was talking about IVS for

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Speaker 1: people not just being dehydrated hanging out in the desert,

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Speaker 1: but after over indulging, and he was doing quite a

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Speaker 1: bang up business with people getting IVS at his wellness center,

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Speaker 1: as he called it, after a hangover. And I've seen

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Speaker 1: these things brought up all over the Tri State as well.

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Speaker 1: What do we know about that is that just like

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Speaker 1: somebody selling I don't know, snake oil or whatever you

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Speaker 1: want to call it or what.

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Speaker 14: Well, I think what we see is that it is

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Speaker 14: really important to stay really really hydrated and to drink

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Speaker 14: fluids that have lots of electrolytes in them. And so

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Speaker 14: that's kind of what you're getting when you're getting one

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Speaker 14: of the IV fluids, is you're just getting lots of fluid.

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Speaker 14: And so unless you're vomiting, unless you're not able to

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Speaker 14: keep fluids down, you know, I think most people can

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Speaker 14: drink and take those fluids orally so things even like

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Speaker 14: the electrolyte drinks like GLA or things like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 14: those have a lot of the salts and the electrolytes

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Speaker 14: in them, and so just staying really well hydrated is

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Speaker 14: so important and will help people feel better.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate your timing, your insight. I hope you

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Speaker 1: have a fantastic new Year and hopefully people will be

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Speaker 1: healthier and we can maybe contributed to that a little

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Speaker 1: bit and with your help, certainly Chairfamily Community Medicine youseehealth

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Speaker 1: dot com. You can find out more there. Doctor Christino Day,

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Speaker 1: Happy New Year, Thank you for making time. I hope

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Speaker 1: you'll come back and we can do this again.

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Speaker 14: Thank you so much for having me, Sterling, and Happy New.

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Speaker 1: Year, Happy New Year, more Sterling. Seven hundred WLW same

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Speaker 1: Sunday and close to fifty on Monday, which that's not

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Speaker 1: too bad for first part of January. It's a ball

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Speaker 1: me twenty seven. Now you're severe Weather station seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: Glad you're along. It's pretty wild. Well, let me to

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Speaker 1: mention this. It's not great new I mean maybe if

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Speaker 1: you've been under a rock, unplugged, unaware, you know, I

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Speaker 1: mean a New Year's week, it's kind of wild holidays

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Speaker 1: I understand. Maybe football bear Cats had a hard time

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Speaker 1: in Memphis Town the Liberty Bowl. Navy's midshipman handled the

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Speaker 1: bear Cats pretty easily. They were down a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of defensive back, starting quarterback entering the portal. Those guys

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Speaker 1: onto the next place looking to get paid more, and

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Speaker 1: the Bearcats had to carry on without them, and they

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Speaker 1: fall thirty five thirteen and to wait till next year

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Speaker 1: to try to better their situation, and they have to

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Speaker 1: go shopping for some more talent. I'm all for these

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Speaker 1: athletes getting paid, but it gets very weird trying to

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Speaker 1: put together a team every year from scratch or nearly

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Speaker 1: from scratch, depending on the circumstance. It's tough. You know,

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Speaker 1: who really did well in the midst of portal and

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Speaker 1: rebuilding and reconstructing a team. It's a team for almost

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Speaker 1: my entire childhood that sucked, which is the dais uh?

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Speaker 1: You know they play on in the college football playoff.

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Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, they're undefeated, and it seemed like

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Speaker 1: my entire childhood all they did was get beat up

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Speaker 1: and lose. It's tough. I mean, seriously, five point three

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Speaker 1: seven four nine seven, eight hundred. The big one. Your

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Speaker 1: chance to get interact with Kevin Carr, conversation with him about, well,

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Speaker 1: what's new with the movies this week? And maybe look

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Speaker 1: back at twenty five at anything that's worth our time,

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Speaker 1: maybe playing catch up on because there's just so many

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Speaker 1: things to see. I will never if there is nothing

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Speaker 1: else new created to be added to any of my

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Speaker 1: next list or cues or whatever. Else do you want

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Speaker 1: to call it? Pick a streaming service. I could start

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Speaker 1: watching stuff now and probably not even get through the

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Speaker 1: Netflix watch list, let alone Prime in Hulu, in HBO,

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Speaker 1: and on and on it goes. I mean, it is unreal.

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Speaker 1: And if you are one of those souls who remember MTV,

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Speaker 1: h the beginning of the year brought basically the end

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Speaker 1: to I think, if not all, of most of their

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Speaker 1: all music channels have gone the way of the most

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Speaker 1: phone booths, which is history, which is kind of weird.

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Speaker 1: And they ended the way they started, which is video

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Speaker 1: killed the radio star, which it didn't because they're still

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Speaker 1: doing it in the iHeartRadio is bigger than ever and

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Speaker 1: on demand. And you can leave me a message just

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Speaker 1: by clicking on that microphone. See how I did that.

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Speaker 1: I'm a professional. I put it together quickly. Let's get

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Speaker 1: to Sue and Covington. She says, as a cure for

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Speaker 1: my sickness before the news you got about thirty seconds.

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Speaker 1: Can you heal me?

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Speaker 3: Sue?

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Speaker 15: Yes, I can.

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Speaker 1: I wish somebody would. What do you have?

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Speaker 15: Are you sure it's bronchitis or in your chest?

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Speaker 1: I had chest everything. I'm feeling a little better now,

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Speaker 1: but I've had gallons of water and emergency and too

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Speaker 1: much coffee.

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Speaker 15: Okay, all right, I head Every year I would get

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Speaker 15: a case of bronchitis because I taught at school and

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Speaker 15: my doctor. One year I went three months in a row.

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Speaker 15: He gave me prescriptions, got rid of it for a

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Speaker 15: couple of weeks. Then it came back the third time.

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Speaker 15: I when he gave me a canful of samples, and

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Speaker 15: I thought, I'm not calling with this. I had bought

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Speaker 15: a book at a book sale by a French herbalist

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Speaker 15: whose father was a French herbalist. I looked up everything

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Speaker 15: dealing with head, nosed, throat and chest. Yes, the one

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Speaker 15: recurring thing was the turnip cure, which all my friendings

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Speaker 15: would do the except sign and say.

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Speaker 1: No, no, I love turnips. What do you do with

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Speaker 1: the turnative?

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Speaker 15: Well, I didn't like turnips, and going to the grocery,

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Speaker 15: I told mother to remind me to get turnips, and

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Speaker 15: if she'd been driving, she would have been up a

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Speaker 15: telephone pole. What you do is you get a couple

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Speaker 15: of medium sized, well smaller, depending if you want to

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Speaker 15: just give it a try at the beginning turnips, feel them,

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Speaker 15: dice them up, cook them because they'll cook quicker when

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Speaker 15: they're diced small.

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Speaker 1: Sure, drain them, put them in.

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Speaker 15: A mount blender, add enough milk that it's sort of

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Speaker 15: like a shape medium, and then add honey.

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Speaker 3: You know you got.

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Speaker 1: Turnips and honey are great. I'm not a big fan

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Speaker 1: of the milk. If I can, I have chocolate milk.

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Speaker 3: With it.

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Speaker 15: If you want to. Chocolate wasn't increased in there, but

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02:06:14,960 --> 02:06:16,000
Speaker 15: you could give it a try.

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Speaker 1: I'll try it.

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Speaker 15: I actually I had not had a case of bronchis

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Speaker 15: since then, and that was like years ago.

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Speaker 1: Well, Sue, I tell you what, I will try it.

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Speaker 1: I'll track down some turnips tomorrow and I'll do it

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Speaker 1: before next year. If I have a third New year

2361
02:06:31,760 --> 02:06:34,600
Speaker 1: sick with this nastiness, I'm just gonna call it quits.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you listening and helping, Sue. Thank you. I'll

2363
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Speaker 1: go in search of turnips like the dead Leonard Nimoy

2364
02:06:39,600 --> 02:06:42,320
Speaker 1: Brady Hopkins is like, really, turnip talk made me late

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02:06:42,360 --> 02:06:45,520
Speaker 1: for news. I'm sorry, he's got your eleven thirty report

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02:06:45,520 --> 02:06:47,480
Speaker 1: a minute late. Then Kevin Carr joins me on the

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Speaker 1: other side. Sterling seven hundred WLW Did I blame it?

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Speaker 1: On the cold medicine. How you doing? It's that season,

2369
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Speaker 1: and uh, I'm just trying to get through it. I

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02:06:58,240 --> 02:07:00,440
Speaker 1: am so hydrated. I was telling Russ off the I

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02:07:00,480 --> 02:07:02,960
Speaker 1: think the last three days, I've had probably better part

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Speaker 1: of two gallons of water each of these days, plus coffee,

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02:07:06,520 --> 02:07:08,480
Speaker 1: which I should not have had. The good doctor made

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02:07:08,480 --> 02:07:11,720
Speaker 1: a point of that, and all I can tell you

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02:07:11,880 --> 02:07:14,280
Speaker 1: is that I spent a lot of time getting up

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02:07:14,640 --> 02:07:17,640
Speaker 1: and going to the bathroom, and I'm probably more hydrated

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Speaker 1: than I've ever been, but maybe hopefully getting rid of

2378
02:07:20,080 --> 02:07:23,800
Speaker 1: this nasty sickness faster. But it is ridiculous, and I

2379
02:07:23,840 --> 02:07:26,280
Speaker 1: want to apologize now and get out in front of it,

2380
02:07:26,320 --> 02:07:28,560
Speaker 1: because it's better to get in front of it than after.

2381
02:07:29,560 --> 02:07:32,480
Speaker 1: So we used to have in the old days. You know,

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Speaker 1: at different times in the studio space you could see

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Speaker 1: the news person. But I have a window into a hallway,

2384
02:07:38,200 --> 02:07:41,720
Speaker 1: so does Russ. Travis lair Is doing news has like

2385
02:07:41,760 --> 02:07:44,120
Speaker 1: a big, super deluxe facility on the other side of

2386
02:07:44,120 --> 02:07:47,160
Speaker 1: the building. And I didn't realize that like Brady had

2387
02:07:47,160 --> 02:07:50,160
Speaker 1: tagged out, or that Matt Reese had tagged out, And

2388
02:07:50,200 --> 02:07:52,400
Speaker 1: then I introduced to the wrong guy, and then Travis

2389
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Speaker 1: is like no love, No, we love Travis. He is

2390
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Speaker 1: back with your midnight Report in about twenty one minutes.

2391
02:07:57,400 --> 02:08:00,040
Speaker 1: In the meantime, I talk about sickness and hydration and

2392
02:08:00,360 --> 02:08:02,880
Speaker 1: a guy who left town partner in the Chubby and

2393
02:08:02,880 --> 02:08:06,040
Speaker 1: Stick podcast that you might be able to find streaming someplace.

2394
02:08:06,440 --> 02:08:08,520
Speaker 1: It was one of the fat guys in the movies. Now,

2395
02:08:08,520 --> 02:08:12,040
Speaker 1: of course, silver Gecko on the sub stack. I'm talking

2396
02:08:12,080 --> 02:08:16,280
Speaker 1: about Kevin Carr, back from vacation, rested, relaxed, and tan,

2397
02:08:16,880 --> 02:08:19,600
Speaker 1: and he waited, of course, to get sick until he

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Speaker 1: came home. How are you, how's life? How is everything car?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Happy nude ere Yeah, everything's good. You're right. I

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02:08:28,680 --> 02:08:31,600
Speaker 3: didn't get sick. I was on vacation over Christmas. I

2401
02:08:31,640 --> 02:08:34,800
Speaker 3: got sick right when I was traveling home. So if

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02:08:34,840 --> 02:08:36,600
Speaker 3: you're gonna get sick on vacation, that's the time to

2403
02:08:36,600 --> 02:08:37,560
Speaker 3: do it on your way back.

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02:08:37,680 --> 02:08:40,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, why not be miserable at the house rather than

2405
02:08:40,400 --> 02:08:42,760
Speaker 1: wherever it is that you go to sun yourself or

2406
02:08:42,800 --> 02:08:44,640
Speaker 1: ski or whatever it is that makes you happy.

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Speaker 3: It's terrible, Well yeah, I mean it's already no fun

2408
02:08:47,720 --> 02:08:51,880
Speaker 3: going home, you know, it already sucks to drive back

2409
02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:54,800
Speaker 3: or fly back or take a boat back or whatever.

2410
02:08:55,400 --> 02:08:58,400
Speaker 3: The return trip always is not nearly as fun as

2411
02:08:58,400 --> 02:09:00,840
Speaker 3: the anticipation of going. So yeah, but I know, I

2412
02:09:00,840 --> 02:09:04,200
Speaker 3: get hit by the flu and that thing. That's no joke, man, No,

2413
02:09:04,520 --> 02:09:05,560
Speaker 3: that's knocked me on my butt.

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Speaker 1: It's been pretty bad for me for a couple of days.

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02:09:07,720 --> 02:09:10,800
Speaker 1: But no fever. So I came in trying to stay

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02:09:10,800 --> 02:09:13,680
Speaker 1: away from everybody, and I'll spray everything down in here.

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02:09:14,200 --> 02:09:17,240
Speaker 1: I've been bathing in like antibacterial stuff and hopped up

2418
02:09:17,280 --> 02:09:21,400
Speaker 1: on like emergency and goofballs. So everything is fine, good.

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02:09:21,320 --> 02:09:23,200
Speaker 3: To hear, nobody to get pulled over on the way home.

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02:09:23,760 --> 02:09:25,480
Speaker 1: I no, no, no, everything's fine. I'm not doing it while

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02:09:25,520 --> 02:09:25,800
Speaker 1: I'm here.

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02:09:25,840 --> 02:09:28,320
Speaker 3: No, no, I'm just chugging the costs.

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02:09:28,640 --> 02:09:32,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, correct, correct, Everything's great. So think of it back

2424
02:09:32,640 --> 02:09:35,240
Speaker 1: at twenty five, because you know you always tell us

2425
02:09:35,240 --> 02:09:38,480
Speaker 1: what's new and picks to watch and everything else. Is

2426
02:09:38,520 --> 02:09:40,320
Speaker 1: there anything new? This is a weird window of time,

2427
02:09:40,360 --> 02:09:43,000
Speaker 1: the way Christmas and New Year's has fallen. Is anything new?

2428
02:09:43,040 --> 02:09:45,320
Speaker 1: Before I start picking your brain about maybe what we've

2429
02:09:45,320 --> 02:09:47,480
Speaker 1: missed and stuff to catch up on from twenty five?

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02:09:48,080 --> 02:09:50,000
Speaker 3: Well, I mean there's like a couple of smaller things.

2431
02:09:50,000 --> 02:09:51,600
Speaker 3: There are a lot of times you get limited released

2432
02:09:51,640 --> 02:09:55,760
Speaker 3: huff the first weekend always that New Year, whatever that

2433
02:09:55,840 --> 02:09:59,960
Speaker 3: New Year's weekend is is always kind of an off wee.

2434
02:10:00,360 --> 02:10:03,320
Speaker 3: So there's nothing big even like what was weird is

2435
02:10:03,320 --> 02:10:07,480
Speaker 3: there weren't any real big opening on Christmas Day movies.

2436
02:10:07,560 --> 02:10:09,480
Speaker 3: I mean, there was Anna Condo I still want to

2437
02:10:09,520 --> 02:10:13,920
Speaker 3: see because it just looks stupid and fun. But but

2438
02:10:14,800 --> 02:10:17,960
Speaker 3: there was a song sung Blue, which is that Neil

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02:10:18,040 --> 02:10:21,520
Speaker 3: Diamond tribute kind of it's it's based on a true

2440
02:10:21,560 --> 02:10:26,560
Speaker 3: story starring Hugh Jackman and Kate Hudson, and that's that's fine,

2441
02:10:26,720 --> 02:10:29,840
Speaker 3: But there there was no big Christmas Day movie where

2442
02:10:29,880 --> 02:10:32,840
Speaker 3: sometimes things are like opening Christmas Day and I think

2443
02:10:32,880 --> 02:10:35,720
Speaker 3: that they knew that Avatar was going to suck the

2444
02:10:35,720 --> 02:10:37,680
Speaker 3: air out of the room, so they did. Everyone just

2445
02:10:37,760 --> 02:10:40,080
Speaker 3: kind of vacated the next week and then this week

2446
02:10:40,160 --> 02:10:43,200
Speaker 3: is always a dead week and then we you know,

2447
02:10:43,320 --> 02:10:47,720
Speaker 3: hit it hard, like next week with Private the Killer

2448
02:10:48,240 --> 02:10:53,920
Speaker 3: Chimpanzee movie and the In the green Lands two movie.

2449
02:10:54,360 --> 02:10:56,600
Speaker 3: If it wasn't enough to watch Gerard Butler try to

2450
02:10:56,600 --> 02:11:01,000
Speaker 3: save his family from everything on the planet, you got

2451
02:11:01,040 --> 02:11:02,560
Speaker 3: him coming back in this one as well.

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Speaker 1: Nice, that's pretty good, uh is. First of all, let

2453
02:11:07,760 --> 02:11:11,360
Speaker 1: me ask you about this the movie that you just

2454
02:11:11,440 --> 02:11:14,440
Speaker 1: mentioned about Neil Diamond, But it's not really about him.

2455
02:11:14,480 --> 02:11:18,680
Speaker 1: That's about right, that's about these people who basically are

2456
02:11:18,880 --> 02:11:20,760
Speaker 1: a what do you want to call it a cover act?

2457
02:11:20,840 --> 02:11:24,760
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah, Well they like to call themselves a Neil

2458
02:11:24,800 --> 02:11:28,160
Speaker 3: Diamond experience. You know, it's not even a tribute but inexperience,

2459
02:11:29,000 --> 02:11:30,560
Speaker 3: and it's it is based on a true story. There

2460
02:11:30,640 --> 02:11:34,320
Speaker 3: was a documentary about it about this guy who just

2461
02:11:34,320 --> 02:11:36,840
Speaker 3: loves Neil Diamond so much he kind of does the

2462
02:11:36,880 --> 02:11:39,960
Speaker 3: tribute band, meets another impersonator share her big thing is

2463
02:11:39,960 --> 02:11:42,920
Speaker 3: Patsy Klein. But then they work together to kind of

2464
02:11:42,920 --> 02:11:44,280
Speaker 3: do and they fall in love and they have this

2465
02:11:44,320 --> 02:11:47,240
Speaker 3: whole story. And with any story, there's ups and downs

2466
02:11:47,240 --> 02:11:50,360
Speaker 3: and good and bad things happening. And I mean that's

2467
02:11:50,400 --> 02:11:52,600
Speaker 3: it's a sweet enough story. It pushes all the right buttons.

2468
02:11:52,600 --> 02:11:55,840
Speaker 3: It's predictable, but you know that's the thing. Life kind

2469
02:11:55,880 --> 02:11:57,520
Speaker 3: of predictable for a lot of you. You know, you

2470
02:11:57,600 --> 02:12:00,200
Speaker 3: know something bad is gonna happen, you know that is

2471
02:12:00,200 --> 02:12:02,200
Speaker 3: gonna be bouncing back and all that kind of stuff.

2472
02:12:02,720 --> 02:12:05,400
Speaker 3: But I mean, it's it's a fine little movie. It

2473
02:12:06,120 --> 02:12:08,080
Speaker 3: does get a little heavy on the Neil Diamond songs,

2474
02:12:08,080 --> 02:12:10,160
Speaker 3: if you might If you find that hard to believe.

2475
02:12:09,840 --> 02:12:11,280
Speaker 1: Well you got to be a fan of Neil Diamond.

2476
02:12:11,280 --> 02:12:13,240
Speaker 1: You're probably not gonna watch anyway, which leads me to

2477
02:12:13,280 --> 02:12:16,200
Speaker 1: an interesting thing. I just read something that said one

2478
02:12:16,200 --> 02:12:19,600
Speaker 1: of the family members of I guess these people were

2479
02:12:19,640 --> 02:12:21,840
Speaker 1: not happy with the way they were portrayed or how

2480
02:12:21,880 --> 02:12:24,200
Speaker 1: the movie came out. Yet I've heard people say good

2481
02:12:24,240 --> 02:12:27,000
Speaker 1: things about the movie. So that's a weird thing. Great movie,

2482
02:12:27,040 --> 02:12:29,880
Speaker 1: but apparently not true to form, or at least the

2483
02:12:29,960 --> 02:12:31,840
Speaker 1: family members not happy with what they saw.

2484
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Speaker 3: What. Well, here's the thing when it comes to when

2485
02:12:36,760 --> 02:12:41,000
Speaker 3: it comes to true stories, is true, it's no one

2486
02:12:41,040 --> 02:12:44,160
Speaker 3: wants to see it. It's a boring movie. If everybody

2487
02:12:44,280 --> 02:12:47,800
Speaker 3: is always good and perfect and honest and above board,

2488
02:12:47,880 --> 02:12:51,000
Speaker 3: and nobody's like that. Everybody has their dark side, everybody

2489
02:12:51,040 --> 02:12:53,240
Speaker 3: has their flaws, everybody has their ups and downs and

2490
02:12:53,240 --> 02:12:55,600
Speaker 3: their good days and they're bad days. And so when

2491
02:12:55,640 --> 02:12:59,240
Speaker 3: I see a movie that's especially if it's even if

2492
02:12:59,280 --> 02:13:03,280
Speaker 3: it's a famous person biopic and it's like approved completely

2493
02:13:03,320 --> 02:13:05,760
Speaker 3: by the family, I was kind of like, well, that's

2494
02:13:05,760 --> 02:13:08,840
Speaker 3: probably not that good because you don't get the downside.

2495
02:13:08,880 --> 02:13:12,000
Speaker 3: Like there's a movie and there's no slight against Jesse Owens.

2496
02:13:12,040 --> 02:13:14,440
Speaker 3: He was an absolute hero. But there was a movie

2497
02:13:14,440 --> 02:13:17,760
Speaker 3: called Race that came out I don't ten years fifteen

2498
02:13:17,840 --> 02:13:20,520
Speaker 3: years ago, and it was it was a biopick about

2499
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Speaker 3: Jesse Owens and him going to the Olympics and winning

2500
02:13:23,480 --> 02:13:26,600
Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff. But it was like

2501
02:13:26,600 --> 02:13:30,080
Speaker 3: like produced by his family. And I'm like, not that

2502
02:13:30,200 --> 02:13:33,040
Speaker 3: Jesse Owens had these dark skeletons in the closet or

2503
02:13:33,080 --> 02:13:37,240
Speaker 3: anything like that, but there was everybody has ups and downs,

2504
02:13:37,240 --> 02:13:39,960
Speaker 3: and everybody has good points and bad points, and the

2505
02:13:40,000 --> 02:13:42,880
Speaker 3: movie did feel a little bit sanitized, whereas if it's

2506
02:13:42,920 --> 02:13:46,080
Speaker 3: a you know, so, it may it may have shown

2507
02:13:46,120 --> 02:13:48,440
Speaker 3: something that's true. It's just maybe the family didn't like

2508
02:13:48,520 --> 02:13:52,160
Speaker 3: what was shown. I'm not a biographer of this these people,

2509
02:13:52,240 --> 02:13:54,440
Speaker 3: but that's one of the things you run into where

2510
02:13:54,480 --> 02:13:56,600
Speaker 3: they feel that they focused too much on this because

2511
02:13:56,640 --> 02:13:58,640
Speaker 3: it made them look a certain way and not enough

2512
02:13:58,680 --> 02:14:01,680
Speaker 3: about this. I mean, it's it's like anything if anyone

2513
02:14:01,680 --> 02:14:03,960
Speaker 3: did a story of your well, I don't know, for me,

2514
02:14:04,040 --> 02:14:05,320
Speaker 3: it could be one of those things I'd watch and

2515
02:14:05,360 --> 02:14:07,840
Speaker 3: I'd be like, well you kind of improved on things.

2516
02:14:07,920 --> 02:14:11,280
Speaker 1: So I mean I'm living the life. I could write

2517
02:14:11,280 --> 02:14:15,280
Speaker 1: it better than I'm living. Yes, I absolutely could. For

2518
02:14:15,320 --> 02:14:19,320
Speaker 1: me anyway, talking to Kevin Carr Silver Gecko on Substack

2519
02:14:19,840 --> 02:14:23,560
Speaker 1: with Sterling on seven hundred WLW. So all right, so

2520
02:14:23,800 --> 02:14:27,520
Speaker 1: let's move I guess back and look at it twenty

2521
02:14:27,560 --> 02:14:30,800
Speaker 1: five if possible, because there are always so many things

2522
02:14:30,840 --> 02:14:33,080
Speaker 1: that are put out, and now with streaming it's even

2523
02:14:33,200 --> 02:14:35,080
Speaker 1: more so. What is there? I mean, I don't know

2524
02:14:35,080 --> 02:14:36,960
Speaker 1: how many you have. If it's ten, if it's five,

2525
02:14:37,360 --> 02:14:40,120
Speaker 1: what are the like? If you miss this, must see

2526
02:14:40,280 --> 02:14:43,720
Speaker 1: go back stream it, find it because there are a

2527
02:14:43,720 --> 02:14:45,600
Speaker 1: lot of good things that just fall through the cracks

2528
02:14:45,600 --> 02:14:48,320
Speaker 1: because there's just simply so much stuff to watch.

2529
02:14:48,960 --> 02:14:51,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and I mean like like certain ones. Obviously,

2530
02:14:51,960 --> 02:14:54,680
Speaker 3: people know I really loved Superman. You know that. You

2531
02:14:54,800 --> 02:14:57,440
Speaker 3: remember me talking about that, absolutely, and that was that

2532
02:14:57,520 --> 02:14:59,760
Speaker 3: was a lot of fun. But but like some that

2533
02:15:00,160 --> 02:15:02,480
Speaker 3: and maybe we're lesser seen, and some of these are

2534
02:15:02,960 --> 02:15:06,960
Speaker 3: darker movies. I tend to fall into the horror appreciation.

2535
02:15:07,560 --> 02:15:11,800
Speaker 3: There was a movie that was called good Boy, and

2536
02:15:11,920 --> 02:15:14,560
Speaker 3: it came out I don't know, about four months ago,

2537
02:15:14,680 --> 02:15:16,800
Speaker 3: and it was about a dog and it's a horror

2538
02:15:16,800 --> 02:15:20,120
Speaker 3: moy told from the dog's perspective. And it starts a

2539
02:15:20,160 --> 02:15:22,280
Speaker 3: dog named Indy, who who's Who's should be in the

2540
02:15:22,320 --> 02:15:26,160
Speaker 3: running for best actor of any category of anything. You know,

2541
02:15:26,240 --> 02:15:28,600
Speaker 3: it should he should get the oscar. Oh, he's a

2542
02:15:28,680 --> 02:15:32,560
Speaker 3: very good boy. And it's it's it's a really interesting approach.

2543
02:15:32,920 --> 02:15:36,360
Speaker 3: And you know, it's got the best main subject as well,

2544
02:15:36,560 --> 02:15:38,680
Speaker 3: So that one is really good. If you haven't seen that,

2545
02:15:38,800 --> 02:15:40,360
Speaker 3: check that out. I think it's on shutter you can

2546
02:15:40,360 --> 02:15:43,640
Speaker 3: probably find it elsewhere. I also was a big thing.

2547
02:15:43,720 --> 02:15:48,120
Speaker 3: You had two fantastic Stephen King adaptations. One of them

2548
02:15:48,200 --> 02:15:51,360
Speaker 3: was The Long Walk, which is difficult to watch, came

2549
02:15:51,400 --> 02:15:53,840
Speaker 3: out I think in this late August or late summer

2550
02:15:53,920 --> 02:15:57,640
Speaker 3: August area. Very difficult to watch because it has heavy,

2551
02:15:57,680 --> 02:16:01,000
Speaker 3: dety subject matter. But it's a fantastic adaptation of the

2552
02:16:01,040 --> 02:16:04,840
Speaker 3: original Richard Bachman book that Stephen King kind of wrote

2553
02:16:04,920 --> 02:16:08,240
Speaker 3: under a pseudonym back in the seventies. But he also

2554
02:16:08,280 --> 02:16:12,240
Speaker 3: did The Monkey Osgod Perkins, the son of Anthony Perkins

2555
02:16:12,280 --> 02:16:17,760
Speaker 3: who played Norman Bates. He directed this this over the top,

2556
02:16:17,920 --> 02:16:22,200
Speaker 3: crazy violent tale about this this this little uh, well

2557
02:16:22,240 --> 02:16:25,200
Speaker 3: it used to have like this symbols, monkey had the symbols.

2558
02:16:25,480 --> 02:16:27,400
Speaker 3: They had to change it to him hitting a drum,

2559
02:16:27,800 --> 02:16:29,240
Speaker 3: the monkey with a drum for the movie.

2560
02:16:29,360 --> 02:16:31,200
Speaker 1: Well, what was that? Because they were going to sue them,

2561
02:16:31,240 --> 02:16:33,000
Speaker 1: or they didn't like the way that the toy was

2562
02:16:33,040 --> 02:16:34,320
Speaker 1: being shown or something or what.

2563
02:16:34,440 --> 02:16:38,240
Speaker 3: I think that some other company, like maybe it might

2564
02:16:38,240 --> 02:16:40,520
Speaker 3: have been like a toy story thing has a monkey

2565
02:16:40,520 --> 02:16:44,240
Speaker 3: with symbols, and so they said, let's just avoid that completely,

2566
02:16:44,680 --> 02:16:47,200
Speaker 3: even though the original story was a monkey with symbols.

2567
02:16:47,680 --> 02:16:50,080
Speaker 3: And it's just a bonkers movie. And if you like

2568
02:16:50,160 --> 02:16:55,959
Speaker 3: sort of these insane, over the top at darkly funny movies,

2569
02:16:56,000 --> 02:16:58,400
Speaker 3: the monkeys are fantastic. It's kind of off brand for

2570
02:16:58,440 --> 02:17:01,440
Speaker 3: Osgod Perkins because the stuff you saw long legs, I mean,

2571
02:17:01,440 --> 02:17:05,520
Speaker 3: that thing was heavy and grim, but this one, I

2572
02:17:05,560 --> 02:17:07,360
Speaker 3: mean it's an over the top splatterfest.

2573
02:17:07,600 --> 02:17:09,280
Speaker 1: Well there's nothing wrong with that. I mean, you got

2574
02:17:09,280 --> 02:17:11,039
Speaker 1: to be in the right mood. But I'm all for that.

2575
02:17:11,560 --> 02:17:13,800
Speaker 1: Uh tell me, But I know you have others in

2576
02:17:13,840 --> 02:17:16,200
Speaker 1: the list, but I'm just thinking about this one battle

2577
02:17:16,240 --> 02:17:19,840
Speaker 1: after another. Is that one of those that you would

2578
02:17:19,879 --> 02:17:21,600
Speaker 1: say this is that this is one of the better

2579
02:17:21,600 --> 02:17:26,160
Speaker 1: ones of ninety five. Or oh I just flashed back

2580
02:17:26,200 --> 02:17:26,760
Speaker 1: thirty years.

2581
02:17:27,440 --> 02:17:29,640
Speaker 3: I'm about to say that that's pt Anderson, that's in

2582
02:17:29,720 --> 02:17:34,880
Speaker 3: his infancy. No, this one's good. I mean, I'm not

2583
02:17:34,920 --> 02:17:38,200
Speaker 3: a I'm not a total acolyte of pt Anderson, but

2584
02:17:38,360 --> 02:17:40,720
Speaker 3: this was a This was a good movie. It's one

2585
02:17:40,720 --> 02:17:44,000
Speaker 3: of those ensemble movies because Leonard Dicapiro does a great

2586
02:17:44,080 --> 02:17:47,440
Speaker 3: job in it, Chase Infinity, who plays his daughter, she

2587
02:17:47,640 --> 02:17:50,279
Speaker 3: does a great job in it. Sean Penn as wickedly

2588
02:17:50,959 --> 02:17:56,240
Speaker 3: evil as the bad guy. Excuse me. Then cl del

2589
02:17:56,320 --> 02:18:00,400
Speaker 3: Toro is a hoot in this movie. So that, yeah,

2590
02:18:00,400 --> 02:18:02,360
Speaker 3: that was worth seeing. If you've not seen it, it

2591
02:18:02,440 --> 02:18:04,640
Speaker 3: is an experience. It's a little long, so I do

2592
02:18:04,720 --> 02:18:07,400
Speaker 3: warn you about that, but actually want to know what's

2593
02:18:07,440 --> 02:18:12,080
Speaker 3: real bonkers, check out Begonia Sometimes. That's the one where

2594
02:18:12,080 --> 02:18:16,560
Speaker 3: Emmastone plays like a CEO and Jesse Plemmon's kidnaps her

2595
02:18:16,600 --> 02:18:20,400
Speaker 3: thinking she's an alien, shaves off her head and and

2596
02:18:20,400 --> 02:18:22,560
Speaker 3: and is keeping her in her his basement because he

2597
02:18:22,959 --> 02:18:25,760
Speaker 3: doesn't want her to he wants to stop the alien invasion.

2598
02:18:26,000 --> 02:18:31,160
Speaker 3: It is. It is chilling because you're like you'd watch

2599
02:18:31,160 --> 02:18:33,720
Speaker 3: the movie and you'd be like, yeah, I know somebody

2600
02:18:33,760 --> 02:18:36,879
Speaker 3: like that, and I don't know somebody who would who

2601
02:18:37,000 --> 02:18:39,119
Speaker 3: might try that, you know what I mean? And it's

2602
02:18:38,760 --> 02:18:41,040
Speaker 3: it's very very disturbing at times.

2603
02:18:41,080 --> 02:18:43,879
Speaker 1: She's made some really really good films, hasn't she?

2604
02:18:45,680 --> 02:18:48,640
Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, and this is its dirrected by Yorgus Latmos,

2605
02:18:48,640 --> 02:18:52,280
Speaker 3: who did poor things which she won. What are her

2606
02:18:52,360 --> 02:18:57,040
Speaker 3: oscars for? So you see you see less of Emmastone

2607
02:18:57,200 --> 02:18:58,840
Speaker 3: in this one, then you do important, But you saw.

2608
02:18:58,680 --> 02:19:00,720
Speaker 1: All of Emma Stone, all of her, Yes she did,

2609
02:19:00,760 --> 02:19:03,680
Speaker 1: and that's not all bad as for sure? Anything else

2610
02:19:03,720 --> 02:19:05,800
Speaker 1: of the like well, because you mentioned in one two

2611
02:19:05,800 --> 02:19:09,359
Speaker 1: through Stephen King movies, Long Walk, The Monkey, Good Boys, Superman.

2612
02:19:09,959 --> 02:19:12,280
Speaker 1: Uh you mentioned Begonia? What what else?

2613
02:19:12,800 --> 02:19:15,320
Speaker 3: Any weapons? Weapons is a great movie if you've not

2614
02:19:15,400 --> 02:19:18,199
Speaker 3: seen that one. It's directed by it's written a director

2615
02:19:18,240 --> 02:19:20,760
Speaker 3: by Zach Craigor. He did Barbarian a couple of years ago.

2616
02:19:21,560 --> 02:19:24,360
Speaker 3: Originally started out in comedy doing the Whitest Kid, you know,

2617
02:19:24,640 --> 02:19:28,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and lo and behold. He's a brilliant horror director.

2618
02:19:28,640 --> 02:19:33,000
Speaker 3: So Weapons is a fantastic movie, almost impossible to spoil

2619
02:19:33,120 --> 02:19:36,640
Speaker 3: because it's so twisted and convoluted in what it's trying

2620
02:19:36,680 --> 02:19:42,640
Speaker 3: to do. It's uh, it's you keep guessing even if

2621
02:19:42,640 --> 02:19:44,680
Speaker 3: you know what's going to happen. So it's and Amy

2622
02:19:44,720 --> 02:19:46,680
Speaker 3: Madigan is fantastic in that movie.

2623
02:19:46,760 --> 02:19:50,760
Speaker 1: Nice, okay, good good. I like him. Anything else of

2624
02:19:50,800 --> 02:19:54,360
Speaker 1: consequence before like we let you rest in, convalesce and

2625
02:19:54,400 --> 02:19:56,280
Speaker 1: do whatever it is you have to do. Hydrate. That's

2626
02:19:56,320 --> 02:19:58,959
Speaker 1: what I've been doing. I really I joke about the

2627
02:19:58,959 --> 02:20:01,240
Speaker 1: big drinks when we've gone to the movies together whatever

2628
02:20:01,280 --> 02:20:04,000
Speaker 1: in the catheter. But I have been consuming so much

2629
02:20:04,240 --> 02:20:06,200
Speaker 1: in the way of fluids to try to get through

2630
02:20:06,240 --> 02:20:10,440
Speaker 1: this sickness that a cather which I just went thinking about,

2631
02:20:10,680 --> 02:20:12,199
Speaker 1: might actually save me some time.

2632
02:20:12,840 --> 02:20:15,040
Speaker 3: Well yeah, well then the key is if you're sick,

2633
02:20:15,520 --> 02:20:18,040
Speaker 3: you don't want to have anything with too much caffeine

2634
02:20:18,040 --> 02:20:19,640
Speaker 3: in it. Now you can have tea like to drink

2635
02:20:19,680 --> 02:20:22,480
Speaker 3: and so your sues your throat. But no, that's why

2636
02:20:22,480 --> 02:20:26,800
Speaker 3: you go with like sprite seven up water whatever yeah, yeah,

2637
02:20:26,879 --> 02:20:29,400
Speaker 3: PD alighte or you know, cater raid or something like that.

2638
02:20:29,480 --> 02:20:33,480
Speaker 1: So this thirty ounce container the mug of ice coffee

2639
02:20:33,520 --> 02:20:35,000
Speaker 1: is a bad choice.

2640
02:20:35,040 --> 02:20:37,200
Speaker 3: Probably not a great idea. That's that's that's a lot

2641
02:20:37,200 --> 02:20:39,880
Speaker 3: of that's a lot of caffeine. Caffeine will dehydrate you'll

2642
02:20:39,959 --> 02:20:41,360
Speaker 3: you'll expel more than you take in.

2643
02:20:41,520 --> 02:20:45,680
Speaker 1: That might explain my need to go Yeah, okay, well yeah.

2644
02:20:45,200 --> 02:20:47,480
Speaker 3: But no, I would say. The only other thing I

2645
02:20:47,480 --> 02:20:50,039
Speaker 3: I I that that's really on my radar is you

2646
02:20:50,120 --> 02:20:54,200
Speaker 3: got the finale of Stranger Things that dropped on on

2647
02:20:54,400 --> 02:20:56,000
Speaker 3: it was it New Year's Eve or New Year's Day?

2648
02:20:56,959 --> 02:21:00,360
Speaker 3: It was New Year's Eve and it was a great

2649
02:21:00,360 --> 02:21:02,400
Speaker 3: wrap up to the show. I'm not gonna spoil or anything,

2650
02:21:02,440 --> 02:21:05,800
Speaker 3: but it's it's definitely worth checking out. If you've been

2651
02:21:05,800 --> 02:21:10,240
Speaker 3: waiting to borrow somebody's Netflix password, now's the time to

2652
02:21:10,280 --> 02:21:13,760
Speaker 3: do it. You've got there's forty two episodes, which amounts to, well,

2653
02:21:13,800 --> 02:21:15,480
Speaker 3: I don't know what, one hundred and eighty six hours

2654
02:21:15,480 --> 02:21:15,879
Speaker 3: of eve.

2655
02:21:16,040 --> 02:21:19,520
Speaker 1: It's really a lot. Yeah, but it's good.

2656
02:21:19,600 --> 02:21:20,920
Speaker 3: It's worth worth checking out.

2657
02:21:21,160 --> 02:21:23,720
Speaker 1: And did I read or did you didn't tell me something?

2658
02:21:23,959 --> 02:21:26,200
Speaker 1: Is there going to be a movie about that? Or

2659
02:21:26,280 --> 02:21:29,080
Speaker 1: is that just what? I don't No, no, no.

2660
02:21:29,080 --> 02:21:33,160
Speaker 3: They they released the two hour series permi see the

2661
02:21:33,200 --> 02:21:37,400
Speaker 3: series finale that is the this week and it made

2662
02:21:37,440 --> 02:21:38,800
Speaker 3: like twenty million dollars.

2663
02:21:38,959 --> 02:21:40,520
Speaker 1: That's better than a lot this year.

2664
02:21:41,200 --> 02:21:43,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean and it was it was

2665
02:21:43,040 --> 02:21:45,920
Speaker 3: sort of that that like Bathom event kind of one time,

2666
02:21:46,120 --> 02:21:49,760
Speaker 3: one or two night thing. But I mean it is cinematic.

2667
02:21:49,840 --> 02:21:52,560
Speaker 3: It's a great to you know, sometimes you go and

2668
02:21:52,879 --> 02:21:54,920
Speaker 3: watch like the two hour finale and you're like, that

2669
02:21:54,959 --> 02:21:58,160
Speaker 3: could have been forty five minutes. Yes, yeah, this one

2670
02:21:58,320 --> 02:22:01,080
Speaker 3: it does take its time. I mean, you have you

2671
02:22:01,200 --> 02:22:07,000
Speaker 3: definitely have a nice dinu ma you know date. It's

2672
02:22:07,000 --> 02:22:09,320
Speaker 3: not like they like wrap up the bad stuff and

2673
02:22:09,320 --> 02:22:13,720
Speaker 3: then roll credits. They it's a little bit return to

2674
02:22:13,760 --> 02:22:16,920
Speaker 3: the King trying to you know, wrap everything up at

2675
02:22:16,920 --> 02:22:18,879
Speaker 3: the end. So but it's worth it if you if

2676
02:22:18,879 --> 02:22:22,840
Speaker 3: you've stayed through all five seasons, you watch these twenty

2677
02:22:22,840 --> 02:22:24,840
Speaker 3: some year old kids graduate from high school or something

2678
02:22:24,879 --> 02:22:25,039
Speaker 3: like that.

2679
02:22:25,120 --> 02:22:27,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the kind of thing something to do.

2680
02:22:27,959 --> 02:22:33,360
Speaker 1: I suppose it's it's a weird thing. I'm wondering at

2681
02:22:33,360 --> 02:22:36,680
Speaker 1: this point, are there too many options? As far as

2682
02:22:36,920 --> 02:22:37,439
Speaker 1: I would.

2683
02:22:37,240 --> 02:22:39,800
Speaker 3: Never say that, No, I would never say that. That's

2684
02:22:40,080 --> 02:22:42,879
Speaker 3: that's like, that's like that's like your what your wife's

2685
02:22:42,879 --> 02:22:46,120
Speaker 3: coming home like, sorry, honey, we're just having way too

2686
02:22:46,200 --> 02:22:46,680
Speaker 3: much sex.

2687
02:22:47,520 --> 02:22:52,640
Speaker 1: No, there's I mean, there's I've seen a lot of movies,

2688
02:22:53,000 --> 02:22:54,840
Speaker 1: not as many as you because it's been your life.

2689
02:22:55,200 --> 02:22:58,160
Speaker 1: But I uh, and and I've had some sex. I

2690
02:22:58,160 --> 02:23:00,600
Speaker 1: gotta say, Kevin Carr, I have never, not once ever

2691
02:23:00,879 --> 02:23:04,480
Speaker 1: like compared I mean, equality film to even bad sex.

2692
02:23:04,680 --> 02:23:06,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.

2693
02:23:06,600 --> 02:23:08,560
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, yeah, you know, what's that whole thing?

2694
02:23:08,600 --> 02:23:11,279
Speaker 3: You know, like you have pizza, pizza, even bad pizzas good.

2695
02:23:11,280 --> 02:23:14,760
Speaker 1: Right, right, I mean, how many movies have you like, gone,

2696
02:23:14,879 --> 02:23:16,560
Speaker 1: this is a complete waste of time. I want to

2697
02:23:16,560 --> 02:23:18,880
Speaker 1: get the hell out of this theater or falling asleep

2698
02:23:18,959 --> 02:23:21,520
Speaker 1: or otherwise. I mean I have bolted out of theaters

2699
02:23:21,560 --> 02:23:23,400
Speaker 1: and gone across the hall because I'm like, I'm never

2700
02:23:23,440 --> 02:23:25,840
Speaker 1: getting that part of my life back. Ever, I've never

2701
02:23:25,920 --> 02:23:28,360
Speaker 1: known the mist of sex and gone, I got to

2702
02:23:28,400 --> 02:23:30,040
Speaker 1: get out of here. Maybe once.

2703
02:23:30,600 --> 02:23:33,400
Speaker 3: Well yeah, but I mean it's not a perfect comparison,

2704
02:23:33,600 --> 02:23:35,360
Speaker 3: but I mean it is. It is one of those things.

2705
02:23:35,360 --> 02:23:38,520
Speaker 3: But the whole these are too many options. I love

2706
02:23:38,600 --> 02:23:40,760
Speaker 3: the fact that we have options. I love the fact

2707
02:23:41,200 --> 02:23:44,280
Speaker 3: that there's more stuff than because this is the thing

2708
02:23:44,320 --> 02:23:46,480
Speaker 3: you can bolt. You can bail if you start watching

2709
02:23:46,520 --> 02:23:48,720
Speaker 3: something and you're like this is boring, I can go

2710
02:23:48,760 --> 02:23:49,440
Speaker 3: to something else.

2711
02:23:49,520 --> 02:23:49,920
Speaker 1: That's true.

2712
02:23:50,120 --> 02:23:52,680
Speaker 3: Do you remember the back everyone is complaining about too

2713
02:23:52,680 --> 02:23:54,920
Speaker 3: many options. Remember back in the day we had three

2714
02:23:55,480 --> 02:23:58,840
Speaker 3: three channels lucky. Maybe PBS was showing money.

2715
02:23:58,879 --> 02:24:02,200
Speaker 1: But don well, you're right, and and I and if

2716
02:24:02,200 --> 02:24:04,240
Speaker 1: you were like me, and we've discussed this before. Kevin

2717
02:24:04,280 --> 02:24:06,640
Speaker 1: carr By, by the way, is silver Gecko on the

2718
02:24:06,680 --> 02:24:08,960
Speaker 1: sub stack talking movies and so forth with Stirling on

2719
02:24:09,000 --> 02:24:11,840
Speaker 1: the big one. I mean, I thought my only purpose

2720
02:24:11,879 --> 02:24:14,959
Speaker 1: in life as a young tiny sterling was to hold

2721
02:24:15,000 --> 02:24:18,080
Speaker 1: the antenna and stand appropriately so we might be able

2722
02:24:18,080 --> 02:24:19,880
Speaker 1: to get more than the three, so we could get

2723
02:24:20,120 --> 02:24:22,840
Speaker 1: eet and sixteen out of Dayton, so we could get

2724
02:24:22,920 --> 02:24:25,560
Speaker 1: nineteen and then maybe twenty two out of Dayton. You know,

2725
02:24:25,640 --> 02:24:28,000
Speaker 1: in that type of situation and the weather was really good,

2726
02:24:28,040 --> 02:24:30,720
Speaker 1: maybe you get a Columbus station or an Indianapolis station.

2727
02:24:31,040 --> 02:24:32,800
Speaker 1: And that might have been if I took the foil

2728
02:24:32,840 --> 02:24:34,879
Speaker 1: and wrapped it around the top.

2729
02:24:34,720 --> 02:24:37,119
Speaker 3: Of the room. Yeah, I mean I grew up in Columbus.

2730
02:24:37,120 --> 02:24:39,280
Speaker 3: We had three stations in PBS and that was it.

2731
02:24:39,600 --> 02:24:43,760
Speaker 3: We didn't get independent TV stations until the mid eighties.

2732
02:24:44,240 --> 02:24:46,240
Speaker 3: And I remember we'd go up and visit my family

2733
02:24:46,240 --> 02:24:48,360
Speaker 3: in Cleveland, they had a couple of them. I thought

2734
02:24:48,360 --> 02:24:50,959
Speaker 3: it was great that channel surfing. You could go seven

2735
02:24:51,040 --> 02:24:54,160
Speaker 3: stations before you got back to the Brady bunch again.

2736
02:24:54,520 --> 02:24:58,959
Speaker 3: So look, I mean, I will take more content over

2737
02:24:59,280 --> 02:25:02,280
Speaker 3: nothing any day. And I love the fact that people promote, oh,

2738
02:25:02,640 --> 02:25:05,720
Speaker 3: Blockbuster's closed. You can't. Oh I'm sorry. You go to

2739
02:25:05,760 --> 02:25:07,680
Speaker 3: Blockbuster and you can't all agree on a movie and

2740
02:25:07,680 --> 02:25:10,320
Speaker 3: then it be out. You know, you can't wait six

2741
02:25:10,440 --> 02:25:13,560
Speaker 3: years to go see my best friend's wedding because the

2742
02:25:13,720 --> 02:25:16,440
Speaker 3: entire wall at Blockbuster's gone. No, I mean, you can

2743
02:25:16,480 --> 02:25:18,440
Speaker 3: just watch whatever you want to. I will never complain

2744
02:25:18,480 --> 02:25:18,920
Speaker 3: about that.

2745
02:25:19,120 --> 02:25:22,039
Speaker 1: There you go, don't complain. Options are good. It's good

2746
02:25:22,040 --> 02:25:25,600
Speaker 1: to have choices. I mean, that's the bottom line absolutely.

2747
02:25:25,680 --> 02:25:28,360
Speaker 1: Kevin Carr, thank you for making time. I know that

2748
02:25:28,400 --> 02:25:31,959
Speaker 1: you're convalescing. You're sickly, but tan and rested into the

2749
02:25:31,959 --> 02:25:33,959
Speaker 1: new year. So I wish you and the family car

2750
02:25:34,080 --> 02:25:36,520
Speaker 1: the best, and I look forward to to hanging out

2751
02:25:36,600 --> 02:25:39,240
Speaker 1: and talking more movies and whatever else comes in twenty

2752
02:25:39,280 --> 02:25:40,720
Speaker 1: twenty six. Thank you for doing it.

2753
02:25:40,760 --> 02:25:41,920
Speaker 3: Sounds good. We'll talk to you later.

2754
02:25:42,440 --> 02:25:44,760
Speaker 1: There you go. It's all for me. Thank you. Russ

2755
02:25:44,879 --> 02:25:48,800
Speaker 1: Jackson Travis Laird has news straightaway Get red Eye Radio.

2756
02:25:48,840 --> 02:25:53,360
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2757
02:25:53,400 --> 02:25:56,520
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2758
02:25:56,760 --> 02:25:57,400
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