Speaker 1: By Billy cunning him the great American. Of course, the murder,
Speaker 1: the assassination of Charlie Kirk has shaken the nation to
Speaker 1: some extent, maybe not as much as all of us
Speaker 1: would like, because it appears that about one third of
Speaker 1: the American people consider that to be a good thing,
Speaker 1: believe it or not. In fact, there's a new an
Speaker 1: NBC News poll that one third of self identified Democrats
Speaker 1: one third say political violence is sometimes necessary against some
Speaker 1: political opponents. That's one third. That's tens of millions of
Speaker 1: people who kind of think political violence might be acceptable. Jonan,
Speaker 1: you and I now has Gabe Guiderini. He is the
Speaker 1: field representative for Turning Point USA here in Ohio. And Gabe,
Speaker 1: welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all,
Speaker 1: before we got onto the politics of the day, can
Speaker 1: you tell me the impact and the effect that the murder.
Speaker 1: I call him the Saint Paul of the twenty first century,
Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk had on the movement as at this point
Speaker 1: of six weeks out.
Speaker 2: Well, it's just been and thank you for having me on.
Speaker 3: It's just spending an incredible, you know, moment for the
Speaker 3: whole team. It's been a really tough two months for
Speaker 3: the whole team, and really what we've been trying to
Speaker 3: do ever since what happened on September tenth is to
Speaker 3: try to ignite something in people from what Charlie started,
Speaker 3: to help his memory live on. And that's what I
Speaker 3: believe we're going to be working to do, especially in
Speaker 3: the run up to twenty twenty six, and especially after
Speaker 3: what happened last night, especially for young people like myself.
Speaker 3: It was hugely impactful what happened. It was it was
Speaker 3: a huge wake up call, and I think that there
Speaker 3: needs to be more of a message translated to more
Speaker 3: young people and more people of all age groups about
Speaker 3: what happened and about what this means for the country.
Speaker 3: Because we saw what happened lastlast night with Jay Jones,
Speaker 3: who fantasized about murdering a Republican lawmaker and his children.
Speaker 3: We saw what that meant for you know, he didn't
Speaker 3: face any consequences for it. So we have to message better.
Speaker 3: We're going to continue to fight for what Charlie built,
Speaker 3: and we're going to continue to try to live up
Speaker 3: to his legacy.
Speaker 1: Oh Jay Jones. That just briefly, Jay Jones said things
Speaker 1: like three people. I only have two bullets. I have
Speaker 1: my political opponent, a guy named Gilbert. I got Adolf
Speaker 1: Hitler and I got Paul Pott. That means the Republican
Speaker 1: gets two shots in the head, and that means Hitler
Speaker 1: and Pole Pott must live. He also talked about watching
Speaker 1: his political opponent's children die in their mother's arms, and
Speaker 1: most of the pundits said about Jay Jones in Virginia,
Speaker 1: you know what that guy's done. Not only did he win,
Speaker 1: he won by four percentage points, and so political assassinations
Speaker 1: are acceptable and rhetoric concerning them to a chunk of
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party today. And to me, of all the
Speaker 1: results a mom Donnie winning in New York City and
Speaker 1: Mikey Cheryl winning in New Jersey, those weren't shocks. But
Speaker 1: when when the chief law enforcement officer two years ago,
Speaker 1: when he was in the General Assembly in Virginia, talks
Speaker 1: about murdering your political opponent and watching his children die
Speaker 1: in their mother's arms as two kids almost, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say. Was that a shock
Speaker 1: to you more than anything else?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a shock, And I didn't really realize
Speaker 3: that we.
Speaker 2: Had come to this point until now.
Speaker 3: You know, a lot of people have been talking about
Speaker 3: how radical the left has become and how radicalized the
Speaker 3: Democratic Party has become. We kind of saw it a
Speaker 3: lot after September tenth, with the reaction that a lot
Speaker 3: of them had, which was very vile to Charlie Kirk's assassination,
Speaker 3: but we didn't really think that it would translate to
Speaker 3: votes correct Democratic Party. And in many ways, it's really
Speaker 3: you know, it can draw a lot of pessimism to
Speaker 3: the point where we now recognize that in many cases
Speaker 3: the time for debate has ended and in many in
Speaker 3: many you know, in many ways, what we're seeing right
Speaker 3: now is that they're not looking to have a debate
Speaker 3: with us. They're not looking to understand our position. They're
Speaker 3: focused on vitriol. They're focused on vitriolic rhetoric, and.
Speaker 2: They believe, and many of them do believe.
Speaker 3: That Republicans already are an inherent threat to their life
Speaker 3: and there's no reasoning with that. You cannot talk about
Speaker 3: taxes and you know, all the actual issues that Republicans
Speaker 3: campaign on to people with that type of mentality, Republicans
Speaker 3: have to dig in. And this is what Turning Point
Speaker 3: Action has been doing. I work for Turning Point action,
Speaker 3: which is the five to one C four electoral wing
Speaker 3: of turning Point. We're not focused on debating the left.
Speaker 3: We're focused on beating them in elections and swamping the
Speaker 3: ballot boxes with voters who are fed up with what's
Speaker 3: going on with Democratic politicians across this country. And we're
Speaker 3: just going to keep doing it, and we're going to
Speaker 3: build up more infrastructure so that we can get more
Speaker 3: people out to vote. Republicans are just not enthused to
Speaker 3: vote when Trump isn't on the ballot in the same
Speaker 3: way that the Democrats are fixated on every single person
Speaker 3: who has a Democrat labeled by their name. And this
Speaker 3: is kind of the Republican parties, you know, we're kind
Speaker 3: of honorable to a fault.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: Republicans, they pick and choose their candidates. They care a
Speaker 3: lot about the quality of their candidates. Democrats will vote
Speaker 3: for any vile, vitriolic person with a D by their
Speaker 3: name at the ballot box. We have to make sure
Speaker 3: that our voters know who's on the ballot, what's at
Speaker 3: stake every single election cycle, and that takes turnout. And
Speaker 3: when Trump isn't on a ballot, we have to build
Speaker 3: the infrastructure to be able to get good people out
Speaker 3: to vote. That's what we're focused on doing.
Speaker 1: And gave Guyennerini the turning point USA Field rep. When
Speaker 1: someone like Mom, Donnie and I don't know if you're
Speaker 1: up late, but I'm kind of a newsgeek and I
Speaker 1: watched the whole thing last night. He's yelling and screaming
Speaker 1: at large numbers of New Yorkers in New York City
Speaker 1: attacking Donald Trump from New York City. I watched our
Speaker 1: mayor have to have peer of all. Much of his
Speaker 1: speech was all about Donald Trump. Donald Trump is Satan andcarnate.
Speaker 1: He's the boogeyman. They run against him in the city
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati. They run against Donald Trump. And the fact
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump's half brother was on the ballot meant
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump was on the ballot. And the only
Speaker 1: way we can win as a Republican democracy is to
Speaker 1: have and informed electorate that understands past the hype that
Speaker 1: the Republican Party stands with the three things Charlie Kirk
Speaker 1: believed and above all else. Number one is God Almighty,
Speaker 1: Number two is family, and number three is America. Those
Speaker 1: are the three things, and you seldom here about God.
Speaker 1: The family and America. When you have liberal Democrats talking
Speaker 1: about the greatness of our country, Mom, Donnie, did not
Speaker 1: talk about God, did not talk about family, did not
Speaker 1: talk about America except what people can suck out of
Speaker 1: the system. And so when, for example, about two weeks ago,
Speaker 1: the Senate Republicans put up a standalone bill to get
Speaker 1: rid of the shutdown. Okay, you don't want to continue
Speaker 1: a cr which is Biden spending, All right, let's just
Speaker 1: put the work air traffic controllers in TSA just that group.
Speaker 1: The Democrats said, no, keep the air traffic controllers out
Speaker 1: of the skies. Number two, they put on a standalone
Speaker 1: bill funding food stamps. Let's fund SNAP. Democrats said no,
Speaker 1: we're not going to fund SNAP. So and then they
Speaker 1: put up a standalone bill, let's pay the military. You
Speaker 1: would think Democrats would say in the Senate, Yeah, we
Speaker 1: got to pay the MILLI No, the Democrats said no.
Speaker 1: They're in the business of inflicting as much pain as
Speaker 1: possible upon the American people, hoping the American people not
Speaker 1: being informed. We'll blame Donald Trump when the Democrats vote
Speaker 1: against funding the military. Can you smell when I'm cooking?
Speaker 3: I can indeed, and a big, big part of that
Speaker 3: is because historically the Democrats have had more money than
Speaker 3: the Republicans, and the Democrats are the ones being funded
Speaker 3: right now. You know, this isn't the old days of
Speaker 3: the country Club GOP. The Democrats are the party that
Speaker 3: were the financial drive. The financial machine of the party
Speaker 3: is being driven by our nation's richest billionaires and it's
Speaker 3: powering their financial machine.
Speaker 2: It's keeping them going in a big way.
Speaker 3: And Republicans, we may not have the financial advantage right now,
Speaker 3: but what we do have is the advantage in that
Speaker 3: we have more people who truly believe in what we say.
Speaker 3: We have more people who are actual god fearing patriots
Speaker 3: in this country who believe what we say and believe
Speaker 3: in the ideals that this country great, in the ideals
Speaker 3: that Charlie Kirk believed.
Speaker 2: Then we just have to tap into that. Right they
Speaker 2: don't have people.
Speaker 3: You know, here in Ohio, for instance, like half the
Speaker 3: majority of the counties in Ohio don't even have a
Speaker 3: functioning Democratic party apparatus at the county level. Every county
Speaker 3: in Ohio has a Republican party apparatus. We need to
Speaker 3: tap into our manpower, and our manpower is not. It
Speaker 3: doesn't need a financial machine to drive it. It just
Speaker 3: needs passion and enthusiasm and training. And that's what Turning
Speaker 3: Point Action is trying to do. We need to make
Speaker 3: sure that we can turn these people into soldiers for
Speaker 3: their neighborhoods and help make sure that they're able to
Speaker 3: get their neighbors out to vote and inform them about
Speaker 3: what's going on. That takes building up a lot of
Speaker 3: infrastructure to make sure that that happens.
Speaker 1: And Gabe a lot of work lies ahead. The midterms
Speaker 1: is going to be critical. If, for example, the House
Speaker 1: of Representatives turn into the hands of a Keem Jeffries,
Speaker 1: there goes to Trump agenda, it's over with. Here comes
Speaker 1: all the impeachment bills. It will continue, and God forbid,
Speaker 1: if they take the Senate also and they have the presidency,
Speaker 1: then it's going to be Puerto Rico is going to
Speaker 1: be a state, Washington, DC is going to be a stake.
Speaker 1: They're going to have fourteen justices on the US Supreme Court.
Speaker 1: The Democrats will get rid of the filibuster as soon
Speaker 1: as they can, and as a consequence, the country is
Speaker 1: going to be completely different than it is today. But lastly,
Speaker 1: I'll give you one another atlantidote. I got a call
Speaker 1: from Turning Point USA person in Miami University close to you.
Speaker 1: You're in Dayton, but this is in Butler County largely,
Speaker 1: and they had five and six people coming to their
Speaker 1: meetings about six months ago. Now they had five or
Speaker 1: six hundred. Have you noticed on college campus as a
Speaker 1: yearning and desire here in Ohio to have a functioning
Speaker 1: Turning Point USA and to turn these minds of mush
Speaker 1: college kids into marching soldiers. Have you noticed the difference?
Speaker 1: And where is the interest level?
Speaker 3: The interest level is suited the roof. I mean, ever
Speaker 3: since September tenth and what happened to Charlie Kirk. Young
Speaker 3: people are just fired up and they're seeing what's happening.
Speaker 3: They're seeing the direction in which this is heading. And
Speaker 3: even you know, here's the thing. Before September tenth, I
Speaker 3: would say a majority of college students on my campus,
Speaker 3: which is the University of Dayton, are you know, lean
Speaker 3: to conservative. They lean towards the political right on the issues.
Speaker 3: They were you know, they didn't like the Democrats. They
Speaker 3: don't really like you know, Biden. They didn't really like
Speaker 3: what was going on with Kamala Harris. But they were apathetic.
Speaker 3: They were more focused about, you know, doing what college
Speaker 3: students do. But ever since September tenth, what has happened
Speaker 3: is these young people on our campuses have woken up in.
Speaker 2: A big way.
Speaker 3: They're starting to realize this is where our country's headed.
Speaker 3: And I may be, you know, these people may be
Speaker 3: in college now. They may be you know, just doing
Speaker 3: the college things, you know, trying to enjoy the experience,
Speaker 3: but they're realizing, what when they're out of college, what's
Speaker 3: going to happen If the country is on the track
Speaker 3: that it's on right now, if the left is on
Speaker 3: the rhetorical track that they are right now, and they're
Speaker 3: really concerned about it, and they're starting to wake up
Speaker 3: in a big way.
Speaker 2: They're realizing, we have to do something about this now
Speaker 2: or else.
Speaker 3: As soon as we're out of college, we're not going
Speaker 3: to have an enjoyable life to live, let alone our
Speaker 3: kids and grandkids. So that's really what's driving it and
Speaker 3: the amount of growth that turning point USA chapters across
Speaker 3: the state and College Republican chapters. I'm chairman of the
Speaker 3: Ohio College Republican Federation as well, we have twenty two
Speaker 3: chapters across the state. What these campus organizations are seeing
Speaker 3: is rapid growth, and it's really you know, the important
Speaker 3: thing is just to not just get people in the room,
Speaker 3: but also to activate those students to be able to
Speaker 3: make that difference in their friend groups and their communities.
Speaker 2: And their neighborhoods at the ballot box.
Speaker 3: Just about bringing people into a room, it's about equipping
Speaker 3: them with the tools and knowledge necessary to be able
Speaker 3: to go out and make that difference outside of the chapter.
Speaker 2: Gab that's what we're trying to do.
Speaker 1: Jame Gurney Reny, I got to get your website, but
Speaker 1: it's about God, family and America and seldom on Democratic
Speaker 1: party functions. To see a lot of those activities, hopefully
Speaker 1: in a Republican and if you capture some kid eighteen
Speaker 1: to twenty three years old committed to the calls, more
Speaker 1: likely to stick with it. Gabe, what is the what
Speaker 1: is the website? If college kids there are others listening
Speaker 1: around the triestate would like to be in touch.
Speaker 3: For Turningpoint USA, which is our five oh one c
Speaker 3: three with the campus chapters. It's TPUSA dot com. I
Speaker 3: work for Turningpoint Action, which is the electoral wing that
Speaker 3: is tpaction dot com.
Speaker 2: And we work with the Republican Party. We do the
Speaker 2: ballot chasing and.
Speaker 1: Too good luck to you and full you think it's
Speaker 1: over it, it's just be gonna know. The Democrats are
Speaker 1: doing the macarina right now. And uh for a Democrat
Speaker 1: to win in New York City or Virginia or New
Speaker 1: Jersey or California, it's not startling and surprising that they
Speaker 1: wanted to moralize people like you to think, Okay, you've lost,
Speaker 1: we won. Know your role. Shut your mouth, Gabe, go
Speaker 1: back to the books. Forget about the organizing college kids.
Speaker 1: Because the days of God and family and faith are done.
Speaker 1: That's the message that they want to give to you.
Speaker 1: And I said, you have not received. You may have
Speaker 1: received that message, but you push back against it.
Speaker 3: Correct, absolutely have. Their celebrations are going to be short lived.
Speaker 3: We're going to come back with a vengeance.
Speaker 1: God willing, God bless America. All right, Gabe Guiderini, thanks
Speaker 1: for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show the day after
Speaker 1: the election, and we'll talk later. And God bless you,
Speaker 1: and God bless America and God bless the family of Charlie.
Speaker 2: Kirk, thank you for having me. God bless God, bless
Speaker 2: you all.
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