1 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: Good morning, John. 2 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 2: I got a question, how could the federal government not 3 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 2: vet Tim Walls so thoroughly at the time he was 4 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: running for vice president to dig up all of this fraud. 5 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: Well, I think they. 6 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 3: Did, but because there was such a cover, there's content 7 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 3: there continued to be such a cover for what had 8 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 3: transpired regarding the fraud, which just simply cannot be ignored anymore. 9 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 3: It didn't matter. But this speaks back to you know, 10 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 3: this speaks to what I was talking about with Andrew 11 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 3: Langer a moment ago here on Twin City's News Talk 12 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: as we kick off hour two from the six y 13 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 3: five to one Carpet Next Day install Studios. 14 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: I think all of. 15 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 3: This speaks more to just how nobody wanted to run 16 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 3: with Kamala Harris that they ended up going with Governor 17 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 3: Tim Walls despite all of his all of his baggage. 18 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 3: Then again, we have so much ground to cover. I 19 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 3: don't want to relitigate what has transpired and what was 20 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 3: although that will really when we look at when we 21 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 3: look back at the entirety of Governor Tim Walls, depending 22 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 3: on whether or not he ends up still being the 23 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,199 Speaker 3: nominee next year. Because I just think that every single 24 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 3: week that goes by, there is it's less likely that 25 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 3: Walls ends up being the nominee. There's just so much 26 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 3: baggage attached to him right now. I mean this is 27 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 3: including within his own party. And we'll get into more 28 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 3: of this, more of this coming up, but in total, 29 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 3: if Walls does not end up being the nominee, and 30 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 3: for the time being, like his time as governor right 31 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 3: now would be coming to a close, him being tapped 32 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: as the VP for Kamala Harris will be sort of 33 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: the beginning of the end in terms of the ark 34 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 3: and the storyline. More recently, Trump called the Minnesota governor 35 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 3: seriously retarded. This is working out the version here from newsmax, 36 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 3: a term widely regarded as derogatory towards people with intellectual disabilities, Which. 37 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: Makes me wonder whether or not Newsmax. 38 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 3: Was questioning Walls and his intellect based off of how 39 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 3: they worded that me that is it may Walls responded 40 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 3: by calling for the release of the President's MRI results 41 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 3: of drawing renewed attention to questions surrounding the seventy nine 42 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 3: year old commander in chiefs health. Really really, Newsmax, Oh, 43 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, this is actually Newsweek. 44 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 4: That's my bad. 45 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: Newsmax as a better job. This was Newsweek that makes 46 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: more sense. 47 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 3: So the post was on True Social wherein Trump called 48 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 3: walls retarded. I do have a clip that I want 49 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:03,399 Speaker 3: to share with you. Traveling on Air Force one over 50 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: the weekend, I believe it was yesterday, President Donald Trump 51 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 3: was asked about whether or not he still stood by 52 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 3: that claim that Walls is retarded. 53 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: Walls and you called. 54 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 5: Him of what many Americans do find an offensive word, retarded. 55 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: Do you stand by that claim of calling the walls retarded? 56 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 6: Yeah? 57 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 7: I think there's something wrong with him, absolutely sure. 58 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: You have a problem with you know what. 59 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 7: I think there's something wrong with him. Anybody that would 60 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 7: do what he did. Anybody that would allow those people 61 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 7: into a state and pay billions of dollars out to Samalia. 62 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 7: We give billions of dollars to Samo. It's not even 63 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 7: a country because it doesn't function like a country. It's 64 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 7: got a name, but it doesn't function like a country. Yeah, 65 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 7: there's something wrong with wolves, mister president. 66 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 3: So in the post, Trump wrote that hundreds of thousands 67 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 3: of Somali refugees were taking over Minnesota and suggested some 68 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 3: all the gangs were roving the streets. So that second part, 69 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 3: by the way, was actually confirmed when you go back 70 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 3: and look at the Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O'Hara and 71 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 3: his comments a couple of weeks back, of which he 72 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 3: had to go and apologize for in case anybody within 73 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 3: the community was upset that he was pointing to East 74 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 3: African kids that were coming into or kids from East 75 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 3: Africa that were coming into Minneapolis and causing disturbances. The 76 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 3: Newsweek article does go on to say that Samali's makeup 77 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 3: while roughly one point one percent of Minnesota's population about 78 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 3: sixty one three hundred according to the US Census data. Now, 79 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 3: and I'll talk more about this later on because I 80 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 3: have a Minnesota reformer peace that I want to share 81 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 3: with you, that number is closer to eighty thousand. So 82 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 3: Trump is off with his hundreds of thousands in terms 83 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 3: of Somali refugees here in Minnesota. 84 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: According to the. 85 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 3: US Census, and those are individuals that have claimed directly 86 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 3: to have come from Somalia, it's sixty one three hundred. 87 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 3: The closer estimates based off of available data is eighty thousand, 88 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 3: which does raise the question of how many of these 89 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 3: individuals are here actually legally versus illegally. And the reporting 90 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: that we had a couple of weeks back, actually it's 91 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 3: probably more like a couple of months back of some 92 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 3: half of individuals who had immigrated to the country from 93 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 3: that area may have done so committing marriage fraud. This 94 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: was data that was released from the US Attorney. So 95 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 3: if Trump were to go and launch expansive immigration operations 96 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 3: here in Minnesota, which I'm hearing reporting he is planning 97 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 3: on doing, that is one area in which immigrations and 98 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: customs enforcement and border patrol could go and target. The 99 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 3: newsweak article goes on to say crime rates in Minnesota 100 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 3: are influenced by many factors. There is no credible data 101 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 3: showing some all the gangs are responsible for the widespread violence. 102 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 3: But again you had Minneamplis's own police chief stating such. 103 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: And listen, not all. 104 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:18,679 Speaker 3: Somali's commit fraud, but of the total fraud, seventy five 105 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 3: percent of that total fraud has been committed by those 106 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 3: from the Somali community, and in large part that community's 107 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 3: leadership has been silent on the issue. There is an editorial, 108 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 3: as I mentioned, from the Minnesota reformer that I'll share 109 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: with you later on. And this is one of the 110 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 3: first times that I've actually seen an individual from the 111 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 3: Somali community that's willing to step up and call out 112 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 3: the fraud or at least mention I shouldn't say call out, 113 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 3: because they don't really call it out, but. 114 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: At least mention. 115 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 3: That the majority of the fraud that's been discovered here 116 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 3: in Minnesota has been committed by those from the Somali community. 117 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 3: Here's what's some Governor Chim Walls had to say on 118 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 3: NBC over the weekend Christian Welker regarding Trump and calling 119 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 3: him retarded. 120 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 6: Look, Donald Trump insulting me as a badge of honor 121 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 6: for me, but I think we all know as both 122 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 6: as a educator for a couple decades and as a parent, 123 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 6: using that term is just so damaging. 124 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 4: It's hurtful. 125 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, because Walls has never gone and used any sort 126 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: of you know, hurtful terminology in any way, shape or form. 127 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 6: I'm getting called out on this because I called Donald 128 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 6: Trump a wanna be dictator. 129 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 4: It's because he is. It's because he is. 130 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 6: Oh, the governor's being mean, and the governor's speaking out 131 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 6: on that. 132 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 4: Well, maybe it's time for us to be a little meaner. 133 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 4: Maybe it's time for us to be a little more fierce. 134 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 3: The last person that ever can take the high ground 135 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 3: over bullying tactics calling individuals' names not be a hypocrite 136 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 3: is Governor Tim Walls. They didn't keep Jennifer Brooks in 137 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 3: The Star Tribune from rushing to Walls's defense in the 138 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 3: wake of the President to calling him those. 139 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: Derogatory terms. 140 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 3: Brooks writes this, Tim Walls knows how bullies operates, how 141 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 3: bullies operate. Well, sure he does, because he's a bully himself. 142 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 3: That's not a point that she makes. That's the point 143 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 3: that I'm making, Jennifer Brooks says, Minnesota's governor responds to 144 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 3: the president who called him the R word. She writes, 145 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 3: Minnesota Governor Tim Walls Todd High school. He's the parent 146 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: of a child with special needs. He's heard the R 147 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: word before. He's heard it from playground bullies, He's heard 148 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: it from online trolls. Does she really know that? Or 149 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 3: is she just making a lot of assumptions there? Does 150 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 3: she talk to Walls before this? 151 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: Did she questioned him as if that was the case 152 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: or not? A curiosity, just. 153 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 3: Just wondering now he's heard it for the president of 154 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 3: the United States, She writes. The President's insult comes as 155 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 3: Minnesota prepares to host the twenty twenty six Special Olympic 156 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 3: US Games in June, Okay, and nine nine percent of individuals, 157 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 3: those with disabilities and those without understand. I'm not saying 158 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 3: that you should be going you should go around calling 159 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 3: people that term. I'm not saying that at all, But 160 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 3: most people understand that terminology is used exclusively in a 161 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 3: derogatory way toward an individual who is acting out of 162 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 3: character and doing something stupid, a person who is not 163 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 3: dealing with any mental disabilities. If that doesn't include you, 164 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 3: then most people go, that doesn't include me. Walls said, 165 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 3: this is not both sides ism. This is clearly one 166 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 3: side Donald Trump, and that is clearly him trying to 167 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 3: divide this country and thinks that it's beneficial to him politically. Really, 168 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 3: Governor Tim Wall said that, okay, here's a bit of 169 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 3: a before and after of Walls, by the way, but. 170 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 4: Look, this is what Donald Trump has done. 171 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 6: He's normalized this type of hateful behavior and this type 172 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:23,239 Speaker 6: of language. 173 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 4: Well, maybe it's time. 174 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 6: For us to be a little meaner, and when it's 175 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 6: adult like Donald Trump, you bully the shit out of 176 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 6: him back. 177 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 8: What we should demonize is people like Elon Musk. Although 178 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 8: I will say this, the last few days you woke 179 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 8: up thinking there might be news, just saying just saying 180 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 8: there will be news sometimes just so you know there 181 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 8: will be news. 182 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: Again, Walls has no leg to stand on whatsoever. 183 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 7: Now. 184 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 3: Jennifer Brooks goes on to say there's a pattern to 185 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 3: Trump's holiday greetings subject plus verb plus insult. She put 186 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 3: in his latest truth the Social Post, a very happy 187 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 3: Thanksgiving salutation to all of our great American citizens and 188 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 3: patriots who have been so nice in allowing our country 189 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 3: to be divided, disrupted, carved up, murdered, beaten, mugged and 190 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 3: laughed at along with certain other foolish countries throughout the 191 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: world for being politically correct and just playing stupid when 192 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 3: it comes to immigration. 193 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: And he's not wrong. 194 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 3: Jennifer Brooks doesn't like that, though, not that Jennifer Brooks 195 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 3: would like anything that that President Donald Trump had to say. 196 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 3: There was nothing in the lengthy message Walls noted about 197 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 3: Trump's family or the things he was grateful for in 198 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 3: his life. Why isn't he with his family lamented Governor 199 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 3: Jim Walls. Why aren't they celebrating. Why aren't they playing yachtzie, that's. 200 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: What we're doing. 201 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 3: I don't get it, like Walls cares. She goes on 202 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 3: to talk about Gus Walls, saying that he also heard 203 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 3: the R word last year. Gus's proud father wishes America 204 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 3: would follow his younger son's lead, saying that he just 205 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 3: blocked it out. Wallsman on to say, people who do 206 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 3: things like this you don't associate with. I really wish 207 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 3: America America would start to understand that this has nothing 208 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 3: to do with conservative policy, It has nothing to do 209 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 3: with climate change. It has everything to do with at 210 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 3: heart just being cruel. He added, the cruelties at the 211 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 3: center of his agenda. That's the end of the piece 212 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 3: from Jennifer Brooks. And I would have look if she 213 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 3: were to have acknowledge the obvious comparison of what I've 214 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 3: done on the show, of the language that Walls uses. 215 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 3: And I played for you the audio the time when 216 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 3: he went on the podcast and say that he would 217 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 3: kick gops, but the doom scrolling, the red hats, the 218 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 3: being entertained by falling Tesla's stock. The bad Ankle's comment, 219 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 3: I'd at least give her credit for being consistent in 220 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 3: her criticism, but. 221 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: She doesn't want to mention. 222 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 3: How Walls is the closest Democrat avnar of Trump as 223 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 3: it relates to his colorful language and therefore this is 224 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 3: just another hack Walls propaganda puff piece at a time 225 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 3: when he desperately needs it. Coming up, we have more 226 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 3: audio to share Sunday, during his appearance with Meet the 227 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 3: Press and Kristin Welker, Walls did fire back at Trump 228 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 3: and the accusation of incompetence dodging responsibility. Though when it 229 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 3: comes for the fraud his comments, we're gonna break them 230 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 3: all down. If you haven't seen these yet, do not 231 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 3: go anywhere. We'll get to it next and your talkbacks 232 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 3: as well from the iHeartRadio app brought to you by 233 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 3: Linda al Realty. Here on Twin City's News Talk Am 234 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 3: eleven thirty and one oh three five FM. 235 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 2: Okay, Walls apparently was saying why wasn't Trump with his family? 236 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 4: They had a huge Thanksgiving celebration. 237 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: At mar Lago. 238 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: It was everywhere online. 239 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 7: Tells me that he doesn't look and see what's going 240 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 7: on in the United States. 241 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: Walls is too busy. 242 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 4: Of pocketing money from all the griston Minnesota. 243 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 3: Oh, he's just a liar. That's really what it comes 244 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 3: down to. Governor Tim Walls is just a straight up liar. 245 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 3: He has no interest in seeking the truth. He'll make 246 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 3: up whatever he needs to make up on the fly 247 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 3: to protect his own political standing. 248 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 9: Borney John and Crewe Paul here over in Bloomington, friend 249 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 9: of the. 250 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 4: Show, I am just baffled. 251 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: If we remember Sarah Palin. 252 00:14:55,880 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 5: Had a special needs child and the vitrio that came 253 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 5: to that family was unbelievable. Now these saying people are 254 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 5: standing up and defending which one is it? 255 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 10: I don't know. 256 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: Have a great day. 257 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: There's no there's no level of consistency. There's nothing but 258 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 3: hypocrisy as far as the eye can see. Twin City's 259 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 3: News Talk maym eleven, thirty one oh three five FM 260 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 3: John Justice broadcasting from the sixty five to one Carpet 261 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 3: plus Next Day Install Studios. 262 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: Tim Walls did. 263 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 3: Take aim at Trump's criticism of the Somali community when 264 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 3: pressed on whether he took responsibility for failing to stop 265 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 3: the fraud in Minnesota, several within the community were charged 266 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 3: in connection with the frauds cheam. 267 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: That's an understatement. 268 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 3: So he was on Meet the Press with host Christian 269 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 3: Welker asked if he wanted to take responsibility for failing 270 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 3: to stop fraud in the state. This is what Governor 271 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 3: Tim Walls had to say. 272 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 11: Dozens of people of East African descent have been charged, convicted, 273 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 11: and sentenced for stealing more than a billion taxpayer money 274 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 11: from government programs during COVID. As you know, Governor, that 275 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 11: is more than Minnesota spends each year to run its 276 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 11: Department of Correction. So I want to give you a 277 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 11: chance to respond to this. Do you take responsibility for 278 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 11: failing to stop this fraud in your state? 279 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 6: Well, certainly, I take responsibility for putting people in jail. 280 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 6: Governors don't get to just talk. Theoretically, we have. 281 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 3: To solve problems, and I will note it's not first off, 282 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 3: they'll take responsibility for putting people in jail. So he 283 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 3: still isn't going to take any sort of leadership responsibility 284 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 3: whatsoever for what's transpired. You can do that and still 285 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 3: say phase. I mean, any good leader would do that. 286 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 3: Any good leader would say yes, of course, I am 287 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 3: the governor of the state of Minnesota. 288 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: This has been happening on my watch. 289 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 3: And then you add in the subsequent and I'm going 290 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 3: to do everything I need to do about it. All 291 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 3: you're pushback on Trump and everything else. The video on 292 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 3: the clip is really telling because Walls is clearly looking 293 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 3: for the words in how to respond to Christian Welker. 294 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 3: In the moment, you can see I know that look, 295 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 3: I've had that look when you're doing these remote hits. 296 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 6: Just Somali's Minnesota is a generous state. Minnesota's a prosperous days, 297 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 6: a well run state or triple A bond rated. But 298 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 6: that attracts criminals. Those people are going to jail. We're 299 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 6: doing everything we can, but to demonize an entire community. 300 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 4: On the actions of a few, it's lazy. 301 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: No, what's lazy is what he's doing. 302 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 3: And the clip it's interesting because he says, well, they're 303 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 3: you know, the Somali community aren't the only ones committing fraud. 304 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 3: So at least he's admitting that other individuals are committing fraud. 305 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 3: But when you look at the numbers, you're looking at 306 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 3: seventy one of the seventy five people charged with feeding 307 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 3: our future are of East African descent. Walls hasn't done 308 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 3: anything other than enable this to happen, and focusing on 309 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 3: facts is not racism. This is where things get lazy 310 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 3: when people simply go and tout racism. Lazy is exactly 311 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 3: the way that you would describe somebody who was willfully 312 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 3: ignoring the explosion in state funding requests coming from the 313 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 3: social service programs created mostly by the DFL. You have 314 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 3: many individuals again facts. You have many Somali families who 315 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 3: took cash bribes, as has been reported in multiple stories 316 00:18:55,440 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 3: regarding daycare fraud, autism fraud, housing a stableization services. 317 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: You had some only families. 318 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 3: Taking cash bribes in one instance to have their non 319 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 3: autistic children enrolled in the fraudulent services program so that 320 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 3: the fraud could actually go and be committed. 321 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 10: Good morning, John Sam. I want the first preface that 322 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 10: there are many good people of all ethnicities in the world. However, 323 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 10: when they're crime being committed, you have to drill down 324 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 10: into who is committing these crimes. And I know of 325 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 10: a woman who is a police officer at the Saint 326 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 10: Paul Minnapolis International Airport and she said it's the Somalian 327 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 10: eighteen to thirty somethings that hijack the rental cars, smash 328 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 10: them up in the parking ramps and then flee. 329 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: There you go again. The lazy thing is to just 330 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: call it racist. 331 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 3: That's the lazy thing to do, to not give a 332 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 3: thorough examination of what is actually taking place here. The 333 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 3: majority of of individuals here who immigrated from Somalia are 334 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 3: not conducting the crimes. But of the crimes, especially the 335 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 3: fraud being perpetuated, the majority of those crimes are being 336 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 3: perpetuated by people who are from Somalia. These are all 337 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 3: just facts. It has nothing to do with the skin 338 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 3: color of individuals. It has a lot to do with 339 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 3: the background that individuals were raised in in their country 340 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 3: of origin. That's the difficult, non lazy thing that's being 341 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 3: tackled right now, not only at the state level by 342 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 3: those that want to see something actually getting done about fraud, 343 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 3: but also what President Donald Trump is now talking about 344 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 3: at the federal level. We'll get some more of your 345 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 3: comments coming up. We'll dive into the New York Times 346 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 3: article how fraud swamped Minnesota's social services system under Tim 347 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,719 Speaker 3: Walls's watch, and then I'll share with you what the 348 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 3: Minnesota Underscore DHS at Minnesota under or DHS apparently apparently 349 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 3: reportedly representing some four hundred and eighty members of the 350 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 3: Department of Human Services here in Minnesota, and they put 351 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 3: up a post late last week, Tim Walls is one 352 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 3: hundred percent responsible for massive fraud here in Minnesota. We'll 353 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 3: also get to more of your talkbacks as well from 354 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 3: the iHeartRadio app here on Twin City's News Talk Am 355 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 3: eleven thirty and one oh three five FM Twin City's 356 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 3: News Talk Am eleven thirty one oh three five FM 357 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 3: from the sixty five to one Carpet Next Day install Studios, 358 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 3: John Justice along with Sam and the Master Control Booth. So, 359 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 3: I want to get into the New York Times and 360 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 3: what this account associated with the employees of the Minnesota 361 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 3: Department of Human Services had to say. 362 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 1: Before we do that, let me play this clip really. 363 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 3: Quick because it's kind of it's kind of it's kind 364 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 3: of funny, and it all relates to what we are 365 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 3: talking about this morning. But in response to President Donald 366 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 3: Trump in a true social post to saying that Governor 367 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 3: Tim Walls was retarded, this was the response from Walls 368 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 3: on Meet the Press over the over the weekend. 369 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 6: Well, here we got a guy on Thanksgiving where we 370 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 6: spent time with our families, We ate, we played yachtza, 371 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 6: we cheered for football or whatever. This guy is apparently 372 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 6: in a room ranting about everything else. 373 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 4: This is not normal behavior. It is not healthy. 374 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 6: And presidents throughout time have released a couple things. They've 375 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 6: released their tax returns, not Donald Trump. And they've released 376 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 6: their medical records, not Donald Trump. And look, the MRI 377 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 6: is one thing. But I think what's most concerning about 378 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 6: this is, as your viewers out there are listening, has 379 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 6: anyone in the history of the world ever have an 380 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 6: MRI assigned to them and have no idea. 381 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 4: What it was for? As he says, So, look. 382 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 6: It's clear the presence fading physically, I think the mental 383 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 6: capacity again ranting you. 384 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 1: Know, let me stop here. I'm just I won't subject 385 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: to you. 386 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 3: I have more walls clips to share, so I won't 387 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,239 Speaker 3: subject you to more of that one than you have to. 388 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 3: With regard to the last thing he said, has anybody 389 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 3: ever had an MRI and they didn't know what they 390 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 3: were giving it? 391 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 1: Getting an MRI for. 392 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 3: I just saw an ad for a cyber deal for 393 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 3: a company that offers up services wherein you can get 394 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 3: an MRI done just to have your body looked at, 395 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 3: and then the MRI will go and expose whether or 396 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 3: not you are dealing with any particular issues. He was 397 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 3: just it was only ten minutes ago, Cyber Monday, for 398 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 3: whatever the company's name was, get an MRI. I get 399 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 3: what every single year now for me, specifically, we're looking 400 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 3: at the issues relating to my heart, but there's other 401 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 3: things that have popped up before with those MRIs. Sometimes 402 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 3: they're just routine, and it's really rich for Governor Tim 403 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 3: Walls to be using that line of attack when you 404 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 3: consider the other big news item that dropped last week 405 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 3: from the Minnesota Star Tribune. And I'll work off the 406 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 3: version here from Bill Glahn covering this at center the 407 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 3: American Experiment. But the state withholds records on fraud cases 408 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 3: from the Star Tribune, Minnesota can release records on medicaid 409 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 3: providers accused of fraud. 410 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: But it won't. 411 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 3: So here you have the Star Tribune actually doing journalism, 412 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,959 Speaker 3: which is somewhat shocking. But they wrote this just two 413 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 3: months after the jury delivered guilty verdict in the eye 414 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 3: popping feeding our future fraud Minnesota lawmakers voted to give 415 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 3: state agencies brought authority to stop payments to individuals and 416 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 3: companies suspected of defrauding the government, as they also allowed 417 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 3: the Minnesota Department of Human Services to disclose when it's 418 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 3: withholding payments from a company over credible allegations of fraud. 419 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 3: But while DHS requested the ability to disclose that information, 420 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 3: often it won't. 421 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: So perhaps Governor. 422 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 3: Tim Walls, as others have noted online, should stop complaining 423 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 3: and release the MRI results as a tactic to try 424 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 3: to undermine Trump and maybe get more focused on having 425 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 3: DHS release the information regarding the records of the fraud cases. 426 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 3: President Donald Trump was asked about the MRI line on 427 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 3: his travels on Air Force One. This is what he 428 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 3: had to say. 429 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 8: Will you tell us why it was, Governor Wolves, I 430 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 8: mean the incompetent governor. 431 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 7: So if they want to release it, it's okay. 432 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 4: With me to release it. It's perfect. 433 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: It's like my phone call where I got it peached. 434 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 1: It's absolutely perfect. 435 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 7: So if you want to hear about it, or if 436 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 7: you want to. 437 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: Release it, do you want to have it released? 438 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 7: News station failing failing, News station fail news nation is doing. 439 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 7: It allows you, by the way, but if you want 440 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 7: to have it released, I'll release its want releasing? 441 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: No, no, no, What part of your body was the I. 442 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 7: Have no idea which is an run What part of 443 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 7: the body it wasn't the brain because I took a 444 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 7: tact that it fests DIASTI and I got a perfect mark, 445 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 7: which you would be incapable of doing anybody. Everybody you do. 446 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: It really is the best. Yeah, and there's nothing surprising 447 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: about that. It's like I just got an MRI I done. 448 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: That was all. 449 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 10: I just. 450 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: Does a routine check up. People get them all the time, 451 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: as I mentioned. 452 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 3: They actually you can get one on your own, just 453 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 3: go through particular services. So the timeline of how all 454 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 3: this played out everything got ramped up last week, dovetailing 455 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 3: off of the reporting from City Journal, The New York 456 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 3: Times got in on the action. 457 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: How fraud swamped. 458 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 3: Minnesota social services system under Tim Walls's watch. Prosecutors say 459 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 3: members of the Somali despora, a group with growing political power, 460 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 3: were largely responsible. President Trump has drawn national attention to 461 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 3: the scandal amid his crackdown on immigration. Federal prosecutors charged 462 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 3: dozens of people with felonies. I'm reading from the New 463 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 3: York Times piece now. The fraud scandal that rattled Minnesota 464 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 3: was staggering in its scale and brazenness. Visuals acused of 465 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 3: sealing hundreds of millions of dollars from a government program 466 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 3: meant to keep children fed during the COVID nineteen pandemic. 467 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: At first, many in. 468 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 3: The States saw the case as a one off abuse 469 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 3: during a health emergency. But as new schemes at targeting 470 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 3: the state's generous safety net programs came to lights, state 471 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 3: and federal officials began to grapple with a jarring reality. 472 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 3: Over the last five years, law enforcement officials say fraud 473 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 3: it took root in pockets of Minnesota's Somali community as 474 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 3: scores of individuals made small fortunes by setting up companies 475 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 3: that build state agencies for millions of dollars worth of 476 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 3: social services that were never provided. Fifty nine people convicted 477 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 3: in the scheme. So far, more than one billion in 478 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 3: taxpayer money was stolen in three plots that they are 479 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 3: currently investigating. That is more than Minnesota spends annually in 480 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 3: its Department of Corrections. Minnesota fraud scandal even stood out 481 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 3: in this context of the rampant theft during the pandemic, 482 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 3: when Americans sole tens of billions through unemployment benefits, business loans, 483 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 3: and other. 484 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: Forms of aid. 485 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 3: Outrage has swelled among Minnesotans, and fraud has turned into 486 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 3: the political potent political issue in a competitive campaign season. 487 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 3: Governor Tim Watson fellow Democrats are being asked to explain 488 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 3: how so much money was stolen on their watch, providing 489 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 3: Republicans who hoped to take back the governor's office in 490 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 3: twenty twenty six with a powerful line of attack. In 491 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 3: recent days, President Donald Trump weighed in calling Minnesota a 492 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 3: hub of fraudulent money laundering activity, saying that some ally 493 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 3: perpetrators should be sent back to where they came from. 494 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 3: So again, when you go down the timeline here you 495 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 3: have the City Journal reporting and I'm I'm not including 496 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 3: what's been covered in the past by Alphinus, Liz Colin, 497 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 3: by those over it American experiment. I'm not covering. I'm 498 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 3: not referring to everything that's come beforehand. We've been talking 499 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 3: about a lot of these issues for a long time. 500 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 3: I'm just talking about the most recent timeline that brings 501 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 3: Minnesota to national attention. So you had the City Journal 502 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 3: reporting going back two weeks, you had Trump move to 503 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 3: end the temporary protect the status. 504 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: Which was solely to. 505 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 3: Bring to raise the profile of everything that was taking place, 506 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 3: and specifically that City Journal reporting that happened. You had 507 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 3: the controversial, controversial ice raid in Saint Paul. I'll have 508 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 3: more on that next hour or two cover. We now 509 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 3: have the background on the individual that all the protesters 510 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 3: showed up to go and defend. Then of course we 511 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 3: had the members of our National Guard that were shot 512 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 3: last week, along with the individual from Afghanistan who also 513 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 3: was setting up for an attack. Then we had the 514 00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 3: New York Times report that I just mentioned, Trump calling 515 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 3: Walls the R word, and then the Walls interview that 516 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 3: I've shared with you, which I have more audio coming up, 517 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 3: of which Walls did not do a good job at 518 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 3: all in explaining what exactly was taking place. A real 519 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 3: leader would have stepped down, A real Democrat leader would 520 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 3: have at least said, yes, I take responsibility for what 521 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 3: has transpired, but I'm also going to do everything I 522 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 3: can to root it out. As I mentioned before, let 523 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 3: me just go ahead and just play that clip again 524 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 3: for those that may have missed it. 525 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: Where he addressed this specifically, dozens. 526 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 11: Of people of East African descent have been charged, convicted, 527 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 11: and sentenced for stealing more than a billion dollars in 528 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 11: taxpayer money from government programs during COVID. As you know, Governor, 529 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 11: that is more than Minnesota spends each year to run 530 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 11: its Department of Correction. So I want to give you 531 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 11: a chance to respond to this. Do you take responsibility 532 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 11: for failing to stop this fraud in your state? 533 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 6: Well, certainly I take responsibility for putting people in jail. 534 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 6: Governors don't get to. 535 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 3: So he's not going to take responsibility for all of 536 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 3: this happening under his watch. 537 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: I mean, that's clear. 538 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 3: He'll take responsibility for the good stuff in holding people 539 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 3: accountable according to him, which also he can't really go 540 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 3: and take credit for We just had a judge that 541 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 3: overturned the conviction of an individual who was committing fraud. 542 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: There needs to be an investigation into that judge. 543 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 6: Absolutely talk theoretically, we have to solve problems, and I 544 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 6: will note it's not just Somali's. Minnesota is a generous state. 545 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 6: Minnesota is a prosperous days a well run state or 546 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 6: triple A bond rated but that attracts criminals. 547 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 4: Those people are going to Ja. 548 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable to me. 549 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 3: You know, We're just we're run so well that all 550 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 3: the criminals they just flock here to Minnesota because I've 551 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 3: done such a good This is what he's essentially saying. 552 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 3: Governor Tim Walls is saying, listen, we got a triple 553 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 3: A bond rating. Yeah, it's good, and we're so successful here, 554 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 3: the criminals just want to come here and do crime. 555 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, all of this fraud should 556 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: be looked. 557 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 3: At and applauded because we wouldn't have all this fraud 558 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 3: if it wasn't for how successful our state is. He's 559 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 3: a liar. Need further proof. Let me share this with you, 560 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 3: and then we'll dive into what alleged members of the 561 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 3: Department of Human Services had to say. But this is 562 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 3: a before and actually it's an it's a it's a 563 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 3: recent and then before we'll go that route. So the 564 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 3: first clipical here is Governor Tim Walls saying that more 565 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 3: accountability is needed in the programs found to be fraudulent. 566 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 3: And then the second clipicle here is Walls in twenty 567 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 3: twenty two defending the. 568 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: Very pro that turned out to be fraudulent. 569 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 6: Do you think there was not enough skepticism for too 570 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 6: long in state agencies that were overseeing these programs. I 571 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 6: think it's an unfortunate situation, But yeah, I think you 572 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 6: need to be. 573 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 4: More skeptical now in this world. 574 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 6: I think the COVID pandemic and the releasing of some 575 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 6: of the rules, the relaxing of the rules fostered this 576 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 6: one or. 577 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 12: Tim Walls today defended how the Education Department handled food 578 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 12: fraud allegations during the pandemic. Prosecutors say millions meant for 579 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,760 Speaker 12: hungry kids went to buy luxury cars and homes instead. 580 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 3: Just how many different contradictions as Walls made, It's incredible. 581 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 3: So late this weekend, after receiving a lot of attention 582 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 3: Minnesota Department of Human Service employees through an account associated 583 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 3: with them at Minnesota Underscore DHS. 584 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: They wrote, we are overwhelmed. 585 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 3: By the interest the nation has shown in the fraud 586 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 3: occurring in Minnesota. Popular Wise, we are small, but health 587 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 3: and human services fraud in our state exceeds that of 588 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 3: much larger states like California and New York, Texas and others. Well, 589 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 3: Tim Walls makes all manner of incorrect statements about Minnesota 590 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 3: leading in one way or another. What we really lead 591 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 3: is in failed governance. Tim Walls has turned Minnesota into 592 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 3: a failed state with deteriorating infrastructure, education, economic metrics. Worst 593 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 3: of all, we are failing our most vulnerable citizens by 594 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 3: letting crippled state services. For many years, we reached out 595 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 3: to every available source to get attention to help stop 596 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 3: the fraud. We were lucky enough to get the Office 597 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 3: of Legislative Auditor of the Fraud Committee, certain news outlets, 598 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 3: and many find politicians to help shed light on the matter. Unfortunately, 599 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,439 Speaker 3: only one in DFL members showed interest in fraud. John 600 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 3: Hoffman Contrary to pop belief, we aren't a political group, 601 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 3: but we've been continually disappointed in the way the DFL 602 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 3: has responded or the way they haven't responded. We hope 603 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 3: for partnership with all political parties, but instead the DFL 604 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 3: discredited our reports and please, is protecting your political party 605 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 3: or clinging onto power really worth destroying your state? Many 606 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 3: thanks for those who have supported us over the years. 607 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 3: It's been an uphill battle and that's been certain. It's isolating, 608 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 3: but one we aren't giving up on. We hope Minnesota 609 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 3: will be freed from fraud, good governance is restored, and 610 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 3: trust in government is rebuilt. The next step now is 611 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 3: to bring in external auditors in new leadership. Tim Walls 612 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 3: has failed Minnesota. Now this was the again sort of 613 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,439 Speaker 3: the end result of what they had initially posted over 614 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 3: the weekend that I want to share with you. 615 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:04,280 Speaker 1: Because this also gained national attention. 616 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 3: Before we get to that, let's get to a few 617 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 3: of your thoughts from the iHeartRadio app. Your talkbacks are 618 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 3: brought to you by Lyndall Realty. 619 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 12: What did Walls just say? What does the lightning of. 620 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:22,760 Speaker 2: The COVID restrictions have anything to do with people finding 621 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 2: out about the fraud? 622 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 9: Hey, John Rolling from Farmington again say that's a joke 623 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 9: Wall saying that Minnesota is so successful as we're attracting 624 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 9: all these criminals. I mean, if we were successful, we 625 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 9: would have gone from a seventeen billion dollar budgets or 626 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 9: plus to an eight and a half billion dollar budget deficit, 627 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 9: all under his administration. That's not success, that's failure. 628 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: That's hard. 629 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,479 Speaker 5: If the state was run well, there wouldn't be any 630 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 5: corruption in fraud. The biggest fraud there is is Tim 631 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 5: Walls there's always been a fraud his whole life. 632 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,399 Speaker 1: And we need to give this guy. And the thing 633 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 1: that really. 634 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 3: I find most frustrating about all of this is how 635 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 3: it was completely avoidable. When you look at the increase 636 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 3: in requests for funds from these programs, they just they 637 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 3: immediately exploded from one year to another. When you have 638 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 3: an uptick of ten to fifteen and then hundreds of 639 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 3: millions of dollars, you should have immediately started looking into it. 640 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 3: At a ten million year over year uptick. Tory van 641 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 3: Out from Axios had pulled this quote from the New 642 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 3: York Times article from a defense attorney for several defendants 643 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 3: and state fraud cases, including a woman who prosecutors alleged 644 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 3: stole fourteen million with business partners from Autism support group. 645 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:04,240 Speaker 3: Mister Pekiga, who also has represented other defendants in fraud cases, 646 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 3: and again this is from the New York Times piece, 647 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 3: said that some involved and became convinced that state agencies were. 648 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: Tolerating, if not tacitly allowing the fraud. No one was 649 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: doing anything about the red flags. He said. 650 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 3: It was like somebody was stealing money from the cookie 651 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:30,320 Speaker 3: jar and they kept refilling it. So we'll dive into 652 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:37,280 Speaker 3: this post from Minnesota DHS employees that garnered national attention 653 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 3: over the weekend. They pulled to one more quote that 654 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 3: I'll share with you, and they will take a quick 655 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:44,839 Speaker 3: break and we'll get to more of your talkbacks from 656 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,320 Speaker 3: the iHeartRadio app coming up just after the top of 657 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 3: the hour for the New York Times quote on Tim 658 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 3: Walls and his failure to stop the fraud consuming Minnesota 659 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 3: and again no one was doing anything about the red 660 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 3: flags going back to the previous quote as well, just 661 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 3: absolutely stunning as is or as the employees for DHS layout. 662 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 3: On top of that, we'll get to medicaid fraud crisis 663 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 3: that we did not get a chance to talk about 664 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 3: before we went on the Thanksgiving break. Matt Dean's got 665 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 3: a great piece of Governor Tim Walls has failed to oversight. 666 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 3: And then we'll turn our attention overdue immigration. We had 667 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 3: the details on the individual that was arrested by Ice 668 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 3: in Saint Paul that caused so much controversy. Yeah, he 669 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 3: was a criminal illegal alien who had a long rap 670 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 3: sheet including abuse that the activists were all their protesting 671 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 3: and supporting at the time. Yeah, all that's coming up 672 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 3: on Twin City's News Talk AM eleven thirty and one 673 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 3: oh three five FM