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Speaker 1: It's a great heaven. And back on the program, John Carney,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the Morning Show. Good to have you

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Speaker 1: on as always, is he there?

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Yes, sure, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: I know it's always good heaving you on. John. So

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Speaker 1: the economic impact, everybody's pulling their hair out. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: the straight of horror Moves is shut down. Obviously oil

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Speaker 1: has impacted. Twenty percent of the world's consumption goes through

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Speaker 1: the strait of horror moves. We've been down this road before, John,

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Speaker 1: We've had the straight up hor Moves shutdown. We've also

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Speaker 1: experienced massive increases in very short periods of time, like

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Speaker 1: And I brought this up earlier this morning. John, the

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Speaker 1: So it's Donald Trump's fault, but they ignore the reality

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Speaker 1: that they want the price of gasoline to go up.

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Speaker 1: It's their economic policies, the Green agenda by legislation, not

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Speaker 1: active war, temporary as that may be permanent, embodiment of

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Speaker 1: getting rid of fossil fuels, elimination of plant food from

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Speaker 1: It's okay when they do it, but it's not okay

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Speaker 1: if it happens as a consequence of war. John, Can

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Speaker 1: you make sense of this for me?

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Speaker 2: Sure, you're you're absolutely right that they have for years

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Speaker 2: So this is one reason that they actually in states

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Speaker 2: It is a cost to the economy when you get

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Speaker 2: fewer road trips or shorter road trips. That's a problem. However,

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Speaker 2: we're already seeing gas prices come down. They went really

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Speaker 2: I don't think that the And if you look at

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and again we've been down this road before. This

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Speaker 2: You're not going to see that anywhere except on Breitbart,

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Speaker 1: And do you think that's going to happen for November.

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Speaker 1: Get to November, except for places like the state of

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Speaker 1: I think that's an outstanding idea. But instead of doing

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Speaker 1: they're at least going to get their high speed rail

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Speaker 1: project on Carney. Don't you think that represents a bit

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Speaker 1: But I guess quickly, John Carni another is this another

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Speaker 1: how about that continental railway. There's an idea that we

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Speaker 2: People have tried to propose it. The problem is they

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Speaker 2: I've talked to people who have thought about this and

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Speaker 2: they're afraid of environmental terrorism as well. You not only

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Speaker 2: have to you know, finally get legal permission into it,

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Speaker 2: you don't have to put armed guards around it because

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Speaker 2: the echo extremists will try to blow it up.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna put armed guards around the railroad to keep

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Speaker 1: people from causing train the araunments, John Carney, for terrorism purposes.

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Speaker 2: They did, indeed have to in the in the nineteenth

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Speaker 2: century have armed guards to guard the railroads because there

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Speaker 2: were you know, criminals, bandits who you know, I mean

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Speaker 2: very famously right, we all know the train robbers.

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Speaker 1: Well, I would is indeed, what could happen, John Carny.

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Speaker 1: I would suggest that if we didn't engage in any

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Speaker 1: activity because something might happen criminally, we would never have

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Speaker 1: advanced past the Stone Age. That's a good point, John Carney.

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Speaker 2: That's a good point.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead.

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Speaker 3: I think I think that we really I think as

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Speaker 3: we become a more energy abundant and more energy dominant country,

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Speaker 3: it will inevitably happen.

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Speaker 2: It makes too much sense, so it's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: But we really do have But frankly, Republicans have to

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Speaker 2: get bolder about this and point it out. If they

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Speaker 2: will not do that, it will never make progress on it.

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Speaker 1: California, help us, help you, help us, save you from yourself,

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Speaker 1: John Carney. You'll find what he writes at Breitbart dot Com.

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Speaker 1: He's the economics editor. And I'll look forward to having

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Speaker 1: you back on the program. Keep up the great work

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Speaker 1: you and the entire team at Breitbart. We'll have you

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Speaker 1: back on soon, John, thanks so much, always a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Eight twenty fifty five krc DE Talk Station, Daniel Davis