WEBVTT - 11-4-25 Lance with James Rapien

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's sort through what has transpired today for

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals and around the NFL. Who better to do

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<v Speaker 1>that with than my leadoff guest tonight, he covers the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals his publisher of Bengals Talk dot com. You got

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to the Cincinni Bengals Talk and Lockdown Bengals podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Man has he been busy today? Let's welcome in James Orpene.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you now?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm well, I'm curious. I'll ask the question everybody's wondering

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody's discussing today, the trade of Logan Wilson. Your

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<v Speaker 1>reaction to Logan to the Cowboys for a seventh round

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<v Speaker 1>draft pick.

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<v Speaker 3>I think given the position that they put themselves in,

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<v Speaker 3>which is benching their captain in favor of rookie and

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<v Speaker 3>looking at his contract, I think this makes sense. You

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to get that contract off the books. You free

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<v Speaker 3>up roughly five point two million dollars in cap space

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<v Speaker 3>if you combined this year and next year and what

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<v Speaker 3>they'll save, and so it stinks, but it beats the

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<v Speaker 3>alternative of you keep Logan around until February.

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<v Speaker 2>You cut it.

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<v Speaker 3>You have a bigger cap hit. You don't have any

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<v Speaker 3>cap savings. You don't have any seventh round pick, and

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<v Speaker 3>he's still signing elsewhere. So did they handle everything right

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<v Speaker 3>leading up to it, from the benching and everything involved

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<v Speaker 3>there that really hurt his trade value. No, by getting

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<v Speaker 3>something and getting someone to take on that contract, I

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<v Speaker 3>think it was worth it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, here's what I and you bring up a point

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<v Speaker 1>that I've never understood in all of this when when

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<v Speaker 1>they initially did this with Logan, it to me it

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<v Speaker 1>just it screamed rebuild and we're moving on, and yet

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<v Speaker 1>they were still in it. And yet by doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>they exposed themselves to the inexperience and the problems that

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<v Speaker 1>came with it. It just it's seem like mixed messaging

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<v Speaker 1>or goals.

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<v Speaker 3>You can totally agree. And I've asked Zach a few

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<v Speaker 3>times about the play because he's like, yeah, we got

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<v Speaker 3>to play the young guys. Then I get it at

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<v Speaker 3>like a left guard. You drafted Dylan Fairchild to play

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<v Speaker 3>left guard and start right away.

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<v Speaker 2>You knew that on draft day.

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<v Speaker 3>Demetrius Knight, even if you disagreed with the pick at

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<v Speaker 3>the time, you drafted him to do that to play

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<v Speaker 3>linebacker for you. You took him in the second round.

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<v Speaker 3>You knew he was going to start from day one

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<v Speaker 3>or replace Jermaine Prepp. Fine, but Logan wasn't so bad

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<v Speaker 3>that you had to bench. And in turn, when you

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<v Speaker 3>did that, you're right. You open yourselves up to a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of mistakes when you're still very much in it,

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<v Speaker 3>when you had just traded for Joe Flacco. Barrett Carter's

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<v Speaker 3>first start was Joe Flacco's first start at Lambo, and

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<v Speaker 3>you have just traded for Joe Flackle. You're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>stay in it. And the other element here is it

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<v Speaker 3>completely tanks any value Logan Wilson might have had. So

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<v Speaker 3>there are a lot of people look at this and say,

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<v Speaker 3>you couldn't get a fifth for Logan Wilson or a

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<v Speaker 3>sixth for Logan Wilson. Well, maybe you could have if

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<v Speaker 3>he had another thirty tackles and he's on the field

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<v Speaker 3>and maybe had an interception or two, and they made

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<v Speaker 3>the move then. And I do think it's a questionable

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<v Speaker 3>move that as of now, has it made them better.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it will, but benching Logan Wilson has not made

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<v Speaker 3>them better on defense, and the past four games are

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<v Speaker 3>pretty obvious where the defense has had every opportunity even

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<v Speaker 3>at Lambo at third and eight, to get the ball

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<v Speaker 3>back to Joe Flacko in the Bengals kit to win

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<v Speaker 3>that game. An opportunity to put the Steelers away didn't

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<v Speaker 3>do it. Multiple opportunities to put the Jets away, an

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity to put the Bears away.

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<v Speaker 2>This defense hasn't done it.

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<v Speaker 3>And you do wonder, man, if Logan was out there,

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<v Speaker 3>would he have made a play, just that one play

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<v Speaker 3>that could have put one of those games away.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you surprised Trey Hendrickson is still here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not surprised.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm disappointed, but there's there's so many layers to this.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm disappointed because I'm afraid that we're going to go

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<v Speaker 3>down the same path that they went down this past year,

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<v Speaker 3>which is Trey just kind of in the wind. They

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<v Speaker 3>can franchise tag him, and his agent left him open

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<v Speaker 3>for the franchise tag, and I think that's very much

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<v Speaker 3>in play. I know he dismissed that a few months ago,

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<v Speaker 3>but I do. I think that's very much in play.

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<v Speaker 3>Once upon a time, Lance I told t Higgins, like,

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<v Speaker 3>watch out for that tag again. They're going to tag

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<v Speaker 3>you next year. This is This wasn't during an interview.

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<v Speaker 3>This is just me and him chatting.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like, oh say that. I was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>telling you. And guess what they did. Now? They ended

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<v Speaker 2>up keeping Tea because.

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Brow moved mountains behind.

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<v Speaker 2>The scenes to do so.

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<v Speaker 3>But you get my point here is this this tray thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Now it's just continuing to dangle and it is a

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<v Speaker 3>distraction and it is an issue and it impacts Trey

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<v Speaker 3>and it messes with him, and I get it. You

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<v Speaker 3>need playmakers. Fine, well, if you need play then pay him.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you don't want to pay him, then trade him.

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<v Speaker 3>And instead it's this weird in between where they're three

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<v Speaker 3>and six. But Trade's gonna come back and he's going

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<v Speaker 3>to help them some and they're going to be in

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<v Speaker 3>this little middle ground. But I don't think any team

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<v Speaker 3>should want to be in, and I think that's where

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>They had a number of other expiring contracts, be it

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<v Speaker 1>Cam Taylor Bridge, Ginostone, long list, Joseph's side, long list

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<v Speaker 1>of brothers. Should they have done more today beyond Logan

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson and not doing something with Trade?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know me, of course they should have I

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<v Speaker 3>mean of course they do you think. Let me ask

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<v Speaker 3>you this, do you think that the Bengals and I

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<v Speaker 3>maybe no one wanted to trade for Genostone, but do

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<v Speaker 3>you think they're worth if Gino Stone just.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't on the roster outside of depth, No, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I don't, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not trying to be mean to Gino, but he

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<v Speaker 3>should have tackled Coastal Love them the other day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Jordan Battle should have tackled Coastal Love on.

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<v Speaker 2>The other day. I just some of these guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Joseph aside, You've had so many opportunities to be a

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<v Speaker 3>consistent for this team and it hasn't happened. You couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>get a pick spot for Joseph O's SI that Joseph

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<v Speaker 3>try On a Trion could deal with the Bears where

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<v Speaker 3>the Browns send Joe try On to the Bear like.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course you could have. And so those are the

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<v Speaker 3>type of deals that I think that I would have

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<v Speaker 3>been open to. I wanted them to be open to

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm not sure it makes you worse. It hurts

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<v Speaker 3>your depth a little bit, but I'm not sure it

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<v Speaker 3>makes you worse, And it gives you more resources, more

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<v Speaker 3>tools for the future. So yeah, Cam Taylor Britt would

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<v Speaker 3>have been one like Cam, but would have been open

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<v Speaker 3>to dealing him. Joseph O'SI sure for sure, and in

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<v Speaker 3>plenty of these other guys on expiring contracts or just

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<v Speaker 3>guys that don't seem like they're going to be part

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<v Speaker 3>of the long term plan.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you anticipate yesterday when you guys spoke with Zach,

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<v Speaker 1>did you anticipate any change to the coaching staff?

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<v Speaker 2>I did not.

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<v Speaker 3>So much so, And this is not a shameless plug.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to make it clear of how much I,

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<v Speaker 3>without talking to anyone, without asking anyone, knew.

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<v Speaker 2>They weren't going to make a move.

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<v Speaker 3>I had recorded my podcast before Zach talked before Locker

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<v Speaker 3>Room and said they're not going to make a move,

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<v Speaker 3>we won't have to come back and record one, and

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<v Speaker 3>talked about the coaching staff why they shouldn't. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>really blame them for not making a move coaching staff wise.

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<v Speaker 3>And here's why, I asked Al Golden. And this is

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<v Speaker 3>after I recorded the Lockdown Bgals podcast too. I asked

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<v Speaker 3>Al Golden, Hey, is there any teaching point for Jordan

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<v Speaker 3>Battle in that situation against Colston Loveland?

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<v Speaker 2>Like no, I just get him to the ground. And

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<v Speaker 2>so at some point and I did it.

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<v Speaker 3>The defense has been so bad and it looks so bad,

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<v Speaker 3>but I refuse to believe that this coach that people

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<v Speaker 3>eight months ago, months ago, ten months ago, we're saying

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<v Speaker 3>was the best defensive coordinator in the country at Notre

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<v Speaker 3>Dame just forgot how to coach. And the other proof

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<v Speaker 3>I have is lou Anarumo goes to the Colts and

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<v Speaker 3>he clearly didn't forget how to coach. So like fool

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<v Speaker 3>me once it's all on move, Well, clearly it wasn't fine,

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm still okay with the change because I think

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<v Speaker 3>they got a good coach and now Golden it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>look good now and they're so bad. Fine, but that

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<v Speaker 3>does firing Al Golden today.

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<v Speaker 2>Make them better? Like they're all on the hot seat.

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<v Speaker 3>We know that they're three and six, like they should

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<v Speaker 3>all be.

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<v Speaker 2>On the hot seat.

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<v Speaker 3>Zach's on the hot seat. They're all on the hot seat.

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<v Speaker 3>So making a move now, I'm not sure that matters,

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<v Speaker 3>but they better be better.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's a shame because I I'm just shocked at

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<v Speaker 3>how bad it's gotten. Like this is, this is comically bad.

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<v Speaker 3>I've covered some bad teams. I mean when we were

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<v Speaker 3>working together daily. Think about some of those twenty seventeen

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<v Speaker 3>twenty eighteen Bengals Mark and of Marvin era defenses. They

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<v Speaker 3>were bad, but it wasn't like this. This is is

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<v Speaker 3>the worst I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>Got about a minute. You've in covering all those teams,

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<v Speaker 1>been in that locker room for high points and low points.

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<v Speaker 1>Describe the vibe Sunday after the game in that locker room.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I mean starting to starting to come to

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<v Speaker 3>the realization.

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<v Speaker 2>Of what they are.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's maddening. I think it's maddening you because you

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<v Speaker 3>see one side and you know it's this offensive line

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<v Speaker 3>that I think has done a pretty darn good job

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<v Speaker 3>in the Joe Flacco era. And obviously you have the

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<v Speaker 3>skill guys that are just unbelievable. I mean, Jamar and

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<v Speaker 3>t have been just insane, and Andre steps up and

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<v Speaker 3>Chase Brown's making plays and I know he had a

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<v Speaker 3>few drops, but all these guys are making place for

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Flacco. The offensive line is playing well, and the

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<v Speaker 3>defense just can't make a play. Of course, a turnover

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<v Speaker 3>can't get off the field. Third and ten, Caleb Williams

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<v Speaker 3>just rolls out and runs for fourteen yards against the

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<v Speaker 3>That's the hidden.

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<v Speaker 2>Play in all of this.

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<v Speaker 3>They had him at third down, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>anyone in the building was confident they were getting a stop,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I think that's it. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how they fix it on defense, I really don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I've I just kind of expected to come back to

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<v Speaker 2>the mean a little bit, but.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just been so bad that I would be throwing

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of stuff at the wall. And that's why

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<v Speaker 3>I would have been open to trading some of those guys.

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<v Speaker 3>I really would have. And maybe they were right. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think so. I just know their history and how

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<v Speaker 3>they operate. I don't think they were pushing Cam Taylor

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<v Speaker 3>Bride or pushing a VJ. Hill trade or push to

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<v Speaker 3>get his contract off the books, or you know, open

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<v Speaker 3>to trading Jordan. Battle just didn't feel like that. But

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<v Speaker 3>they probably should have, just to just switch.

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<v Speaker 2>It up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>You never know what a little new life could bring you.

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<v Speaker 3>We've seen that with Joe Flacco. So yeah, it's I

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<v Speaker 3>think reality has said in a bit on this team,

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<v Speaker 3>for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>You have been cranking out the content, not just today,

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<v Speaker 1>but day after day. What do you have up now,

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<v Speaker 1>what will be coming and how can listeners partake in

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<v Speaker 1>all of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I just posted a lock on Bengals podcast. We've relive

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<v Speaker 3>on Cincinnati Bengals Talk on YouTube for an hour. Plenty

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<v Speaker 3>of stuff there. I'm looking at Bengals Talk dot com

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<v Speaker 3>and there are a bunch of articles reacting to the

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<v Speaker 3>Logan Wilson deal, reacting to their lack of trades with

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<v Speaker 3>Trey hendrickson the cap space that they saved for Logan Wilson,

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<v Speaker 3>the actual pick that the Cowboys are sending isn't the Cowboys?

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<v Speaker 3>That details there. There's so much at Bengals Talk dot

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<v Speaker 3>com as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Busy day.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate your carbon out time.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you absolutely thanks Mans