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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Morning Show, eight oh nine, seven hundred

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Speaker 1: wl W. I am so excited. I've not spoken with

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Speaker 1: Kelly Falen. I don't know how long it's been. I

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Speaker 1: do remember, as she is going to be officiating her

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Speaker 1: last high school basketball game after fifty years tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: She was the first woman to ever officiate a boys

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Speaker 1: game in the GCL, and that's a thousand years ago.

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Speaker 1: Can you remember that game, Kelly Whalen? First of all,

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Speaker 1: thanks for being on Good Morning Congratulations. But do you

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Speaker 1: remember that boys game in the GCL, the first one?

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Speaker 2: Yes I do. I was nervous as all get out

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Speaker 2: on that game, but yes, I do remember that game.

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Speaker 2: And thanks for having me on. First of all, it's.

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Speaker 3: Good to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: It's great talking to you. I've known you since you

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Speaker 1: were just really in college and you were dating now

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Speaker 1: your husband, Jeff. At the time he was a baseball

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Speaker 1: player Xavier, and you were a great athlete too, and

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Speaker 1: have continued all your great work over at Mount Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame and all over northern Kentucky. But fifty years, why

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Speaker 1: are you walking away now? Why not keep going? You're

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Speaker 1: still in good health, You're in great shape, you look

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Speaker 1: great why are you stopping?

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Speaker 2: You know, I am retiring because I feel like I'm

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Speaker 2: still at the top of my game.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: I can still run, I can still get I would

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Speaker 2: say ninety five percent of my calls, right. But I

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Speaker 2: have over the years watched officials that end up, you know,

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Speaker 2: not even be able to cross half court. So I

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Speaker 2: feel like I'm at the top of my game, and

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Speaker 2: I think it's time. It is time, you know.

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Speaker 1: At our church, last go ahead. I'm sorry, No, that's okay.

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Speaker 2: It's been a tough decision, you know. It's something that

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Speaker 2: you know, fifty years seems like it's flown by. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's even when I sit back and think about it,

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Speaker 2: and I've done a lot of reflecting this year on

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Speaker 2: the fifty years. I mean, if you think about it

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Speaker 2: fifty years ago, I think it was it was back

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Speaker 2: in what nineteen seventy six when the Big Red Machine

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Speaker 2: won their second World Series. Yeah, Mike, listen, Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 2: He was in grade school at the time, you know,

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Speaker 2: I remember, I don't know, wasn't it like four years

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Speaker 2: USA the Russians. Yep, yeah, you know, I never thought

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Speaker 2: of fifty years being as long as it is, but

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Speaker 2: it's a long time, you know.

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Speaker 1: I think so many people and I've always been captivated

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Speaker 1: by people who are known as trail blazers because it

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Speaker 1: takes a lot of courage. You're going to take some grief,

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Speaker 1: There's going to be a lot of reward, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of risk. You are certainly one of the trail

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Speaker 1: blazers for female officials. Going back, as you mentioned, you

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Speaker 1: started this with your dad right in nineteen seventy six.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well my dad was an official and he

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Speaker 2: was an official for over thirty some years, and so

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Speaker 2: he actually introduced me to officiating, and you're right, it

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Speaker 2: was in the fall of nineteen seventy six, and that

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Speaker 2: at that time, really there wasn't many women that were

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Speaker 2: doing it, and especially not in the boys game. But

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Speaker 2: at the time I thought, you know what, I loved

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Speaker 2: the game and I love the challenge. And at first

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Speaker 2: I started out saying, Okay, I'm just going to try this,

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Speaker 2: but then it did quickly become a passion and pretty

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Speaker 2: much as you can see, a lifelong calling. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know if you knew this, but in

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Speaker 2: nineteen seventy six was the very first girl state tournament

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Speaker 3: At that time.

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Speaker 2: They had had the boys tournament, but seventy six was

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Speaker 2: like the first girl state tournament. And I think my

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Speaker 2: dad had one of the very first girl state tournaments.

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Speaker 1: No, well, now you've gone on and done what eighteen

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Speaker 1: state final four games.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you know, I've been honored and recognized with several,

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Speaker 2: like different awards.

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Speaker 1: But I mean you're in the Hall of Fame, two

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Speaker 1: of them in fact, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I got into the Ohio High School Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame and then the greater Cincinnati Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 4: That's incredible, incredible, It's unforgettable that now, okay, all right, now, look,

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Speaker 4: I watched the women's game now, right, and you were

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Speaker 4: a great basketball player.

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Speaker 1: I watched the women's game now, And in all these

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Speaker 1: fifty years, did you ever imagine, even though, like I said,

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Speaker 2: And you know what, when I played, I look it

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Speaker 2: they never even had basketball in greats, and then I

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Speaker 2: I have officiated some great players in the eighties and

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Speaker 2: were just eighties is when I think women's basketball really

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Speaker 2: took off. It is just it's so different now than

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Speaker 2: it was back when I played.

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Speaker 1: You're right, I just can't believe the physicality of it.

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Speaker 1: I coached my daughter's team starting in kindergarten all the

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Speaker 1: what she's twenty two, So I mean we're talking, you know,

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Speaker 1: ten years ago as the last game I coached and

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Speaker 1: coached the girls and the boys both. But I just

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Speaker 1: the physicality of it when I see the women play now,

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Speaker 1: the high school girls play now. Have you had a

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Speaker 1: change what you blow whistles for now compared to what

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Speaker 1: you did even five, seven, eight, ten years ago?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, the game has changed tremendously. It was funny. I

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Speaker 2: was downloading some pictures for my kids for Christmas and

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Speaker 2: I saw a game that I had back in nineteen

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Speaker 2: and you know on that team was Pat Kelsey was

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Speaker 2: my officiating. There was no contact there. You know. It

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Speaker 2: absolutely in the last oh gosh, i'd say probably late eighties,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm not saying it's definitely a harder it's

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Speaker 2: a harder game to call with all that fiscality because

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Speaker 2: then you have to really judge, you know, what is

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Speaker 2: harder than the other one. You know, it's harder.

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Speaker 1: Did how much grief did you take from either coaches

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Speaker 1: I mean you knew you were going to take some heat, right,

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Speaker 2: Well, I think in the very beginning they were very

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Speaker 2: lot of testing. I got a lot of comments that actually,

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Speaker 2: you know what, Tom, they were kind of funny. One

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Speaker 2: they got used to seeing me, so it was you know,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't anything, but early on, I remember a coach.

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Speaker 2: It was two person mechanics and we were going into

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Speaker 2: put your skirt on, go back to the kitchen. I

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Speaker 2: never laughed so hard. No, it was funny. It actually

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Speaker 2: was very funny. Yeah, it really was. And I get

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Speaker 2: funny two reasons. Number one, I would never be wearing

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Speaker 2: will tell you, my husband, there's no way that she

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Speaker 2: and I thought, Okay, we better give him a technical

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Speaker 1: So we did.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, you know what, things like that are memorable.

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Speaker 2: I did not take it offensively. I knew he was

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Speaker 2: kind of testing the waters. Yeah, see where I would

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Speaker 2: you know what I would do, And I followed through

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Speaker 2: It was actually pre co.

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Speaker 1: So you tee this guy up after he comes back

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I love it.

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Speaker 1: I love it, Absolutely love it. How about now do you?

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Speaker 1: I mean, and now it's like, no big deal, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we see women officials at the college level

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Speaker 1: in the boys game, we see him in the NBA,

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Speaker 1: We're seeing him in the NFL, We're seeing women in

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Speaker 1: professional umpiring in baseball. So now or is there still,

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of a little bit of a stigma.

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Speaker 2: No, no, I really don't see it at all now.

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Speaker 2: I think again, though, my face has been around for

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Speaker 2: such a long time that you know, I would like

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Speaker 1: Okay, Kelly, we are just so excited for you. Are

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Speaker 1: you what your last game is that tomorrow night at Sycamore?

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Speaker 1: Is that where you are?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm Sycamore, Lakota West, and I'm excited. But it's

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Speaker 2: also you know, it's it's it's memorable, it's sad, it's

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Speaker 2: you know, there's all kinds of emotions that are that

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Speaker 2: are running right now. I can't tell you the number

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Speaker 2: of times that I've come home crying to my husband.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe this is my last year. But you

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Speaker 2: know what, tom it's time.

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Speaker 3: It's time.

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Speaker 2: So I've I've had a great it's probably been alongside

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Speaker 2: of my husband and my kids. It has been one

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Speaker 2: of the greatest joys of my life. And it has

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Speaker 2: flown by, absolutely flown by. I never went out thinking

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Speaker 2: I was going to do fifty years. I just kind

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Speaker 2: of started this as you know, hey, this seems like

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Speaker 2: it might be a lot of fun. But never in

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Speaker 2: a million years what I have thought that I have done,

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Speaker 2: I would have done fifty years.

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Speaker 1: Well missus, Kelly Will. We are so excited for you

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Speaker 1: tomorrow night, your last game. And I know I speak

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Speaker 1: for In fact, we have Mike Leeson as it was

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Speaker 1: a coach for a long long time, you know Mike,

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Speaker 1: he works here in the building. And and the caller

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Speaker 1: we had I don't know if you heard the caller,

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Speaker 1: Mark Spencer, who called in before you came on and

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Speaker 1: both of them saying she was not only a great person,

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Speaker 1: but they're like, she was a great official. We knew

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Speaker 1: when we saw her listed as the official that it

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Speaker 1: was going to be a good, clean, fair game, and

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Speaker 1: that she was prepared and on top of her game

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Speaker 1: for every single game. I'm not surprised by that in

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Speaker 1: the least bit. And congratulations. Thank you for your time

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Speaker 1: this morning. Kelly.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much, and thank you for the words.

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Speaker 2: That really does mean a lot to me. And I'm

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Speaker 5: I find it so disappointing. I would be crushed if

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't think we really have the right to

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Speaker 3: I agree, because we have no idea.

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Speaker 5: Tom, all the discussions we had, and you know, she

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Speaker 5: talked to everyone, coaches, doctors, physical therapists. I don't think

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Speaker 5: that decision was just this, you know, flippet like I'm

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Speaker 5: going to do it kind of decision.

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Speaker 3: I cannot imagine.

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Speaker 5: How many people she talked to, from the Olympic officials,

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Speaker 5: to her doctors, to her own heart, and we.

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Speaker 3: Have no idea.

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Speaker 5: So I don't believe I have the right to say.

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Speaker 3: Yay or nay for her.

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Speaker 5: I only have the right to support her and be

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Speaker 5: grateful we have someone on that level who can inspire us,

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Speaker 5: who can be heroic, And so that's where I stand

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Speaker 5: on that.

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Speaker 3: I could not watch your race. I was so nervous

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Speaker 3: I couldn't even watch it.

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Speaker 5: I thought, you know what, I'm just going to wait

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Speaker 5: till it's over and watch the highlight reel. Unfortunately it

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Speaker 5: wasn't a highlight reel. The only thing I was worried about, Tom,

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Speaker 5: I wasn't worried about her knee. I was worried more

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Speaker 5: about the fact that she wasn't one hundred percent. So

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Speaker 5: if you're standing on the starting line, you want to

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Speaker 5: be one hundred percent because you don't want that what

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Speaker 5: if ever ever crossing your mind, you got to be

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Speaker 5: all in. I worried about that and the fact that

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Speaker 5: she had more of a chance of falling and not

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Speaker 5: ruining her knee, but what body part which she might destroy,

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Speaker 5: because if you fall, you could fall funny.

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Speaker 3: What if she hit her brain?

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Speaker 2: You know what?

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Speaker 5: That's what my worry was. I thought her knee would

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Speaker 5: be fine, I really did. I just thought that tiny

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Speaker 5: little down in her brain, and the fact that because

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Speaker 5: she was really didn't have her ACL, the chances of

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Speaker 5: her falling funny and hitting something else was what's worth

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Speaker 5: a worst thought?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I just get so disappointed by people

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Speaker 1: who what this woman has given to her sport and

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Speaker 1: to her country. Her training is just off the charts,

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Speaker 1: her mental toughness, her physical toughness, She's come back from

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Speaker 1: ACLS before. I just have such incredible admiration, and I'm

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Speaker 1: almost offended. I am offended by the people out there

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Speaker 1: who were just looking to take shots at her. I

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Speaker 1: didn't mean to drift off conversation. I gotta let you go.

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Speaker 1: I know, I apologize. I just think that you're one

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Speaker 1: of the few people that are walking on the planet

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Speaker 1: that we can talk to about what it's like to

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Speaker 1: line up and get ready in the Olympics, to go

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Speaker 1: in the opening ceremonies, and so well the Olympics going on.

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Speaker 1: I just thought it was kind of cool and so

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Speaker 1: thank you, And I'm sorry I got off our topic today.

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Speaker 1: We'll do it next week.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, it's it's still in my heart, Tom, even

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Speaker 5: though we were joking, it's like forty years ago, like, boy,

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Speaker 5: we're getting.

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Speaker 1: All together and I told you were not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know you did.

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Speaker 5: But isn't it neat that when you look back at

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Speaker 5: your life, all these memorable times, whether they're Olympic moments,

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Speaker 5: and everyone can define their Olympic moments anyway they want.

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Speaker 5: Fortunately for me it was the real Olympics. But I

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Speaker 5: think everyone can look back at their lives and really

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Speaker 5: think about these Olympic moments and also look forward to

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Speaker 5: more Olympic moments.

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Speaker 1: Julie, you are the best. I hope you have a

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Speaker 1: great rest of your day. Thank you. Milford left hand

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