Speaker 1: A lot of people are asking about Kevin and did
Speaker 1: he go to breakfast Saturday?
Speaker 2: I'll just use that term, did you did you eat
Speaker 2: breakfast Saturday?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I did not. You did not do it.
Speaker 1: The breakfast thing, you know, I like that yesterday. Good
Speaker 1: good for you. No breakfast for you. It's better to
Speaker 1: it's better to uh intermittent fast away from that.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: I asked some French toast yesterday. That was phenomenal. And
Speaker 4: I'm not a big French toast person. I like regular
Speaker 4: wheat toes, little strawberry jelly. But as some French house yesterday,
Speaker 4: some eggs, so little pineapple momosa and stuff.
Speaker 1: keV has keV has been kind of seeing uh this
Speaker 1: beautiful lady. Uh, her name to only us is our
Speaker 1: Magazine Girl because you met her at the our magazine party.
Speaker 1: But there was some conversation that came into play of
Speaker 1: if this relationship were to get more serious, you were
Speaker 1: gonna need to do something and what.
Speaker 2: Was that get her? A promise? Ring?
Speaker 4: So we so she was over yesterday. I'm I'm doing
Speaker 4: my puzzles. I'm puzzling and uh, she on the college
Speaker 4: working on some stuff. And I don't remember how we
Speaker 4: got on the topic, but we did, and she brought
Speaker 4: up that now she's an avid listener, so she'd be
Speaker 4: hearing stuff, and she heard our dating conversation and I
Speaker 4: think she saw it on socials. So BEONK and I
Speaker 4: we're gonna start having conversations.
Speaker 2: About no, no no.
Speaker 1: By the way we talked about that, I just wanted
Speaker 1: to real quick on throw this out there. Beyonca Lydia
Speaker 1: and I were having this conversation. We can't do this
Speaker 1: picking and choosing thing if we share to the listeners.
Speaker 2: We shared to the listeners social wise too. All right,
Speaker 2: we'll have our meeting later we can. We'll talk in
Speaker 2: the meeting about it.
Speaker 4: But about this though, she saw that on there, So
Speaker 4: we started to have the real conversation between her and
Speaker 4: I and not with all of us here about dating
Speaker 4: and you know what that means and all of that.
Speaker 4: So I'm kind of joking where I'm like, her birthday
Speaker 4: is like in a couple of weeks or something, So
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, what if I just ask you to
Speaker 4: be my girlfriend on your birthday? Like in my mind,
Speaker 4: like I'm kind of halfway joking, but like now you
Speaker 4: joke got a little seriousness in it right. So she
Speaker 4: was like, well, if that's going to happen, then I'm
Speaker 4: going to need a promise ring.
Speaker 2: Was she joking or no?
Speaker 4: She was serious? She was she was for real. I'm like,
Speaker 4: I promise Like in my mind, that's like weak.
Speaker 2: I was like, what do you do?
Speaker 4: You really do it? She's like, I need you to
Speaker 4: promise to me that you're not going to break my heart.
Speaker 4: Like that's what a promise ring is. And I was like,
Speaker 4: it's a lot.
Speaker 2: I feel like a promise ring is like middle school,
Speaker 2: high school. Thank you, That's why I grown.
Speaker 5: When you said that, I was like, no, I cannot
Speaker 5: handle when adults give promise rings. I'm like, just know
Speaker 5: that you're in a committed relationship and if you ultimately
Speaker 5: get engaged, okay, then.
Speaker 2: You buy a ring ring. That's where I'm at. I
Speaker 2: had a promise ring in high school. Really, I actually
Speaker 2: still have it. Yeah, whoa why no? No, no no.
Speaker 5: We were together for years and years and we like
Speaker 5: mutually broke up because.
Speaker 2: You get it at Claire's boutique.
Speaker 5: No, I don't know. I'm sure his parents bought it
Speaker 5: and helped him buy shit.
Speaker 2: It was nice.
Speaker 5: Why do you have this because it is a memento
Speaker 5: from my past. It's in my rubber made box with
Speaker 5: my probably yeah. No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: That's so sweet, I wonder Well, first off, let's open
Speaker 1: that to the listener, because obviously, Shannon and I both
Speaker 1: think a promise ring seems very high school high school
Speaker 1: And I don't know what your thoughts were. Did you
Speaker 1: kind of chuckle with that too? Okay, But here's the
Speaker 1: thing I want to hear what listeners think about this
Speaker 1: eight four to four Mojo Live or text call me
Speaker 1: to nine five five zero zero and Lydio will get
Speaker 1: you on. Just got one quick thing. If you give
Speaker 1: her a promise ring A what kind of budget do
Speaker 1: you do?
Speaker 2: But two or B? Is it going to send a
Speaker 2: mixed signal?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 2: Does it send a signal that you're now forever?
Speaker 3: Ye?
Speaker 2: Like this is marriage type thing?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean that would be the only reason I'm
Speaker 4: dating somebody for real, Like I'm not. I don't think
Speaker 4: anybody dates with the intention of breaking up in two years,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like, you date with the
Speaker 4: intention of, like, okay, being with this person and hopefully
Speaker 4: being with this person leads to something that's a forever thing.
Speaker 5: So can I ask a question because I feel like
Speaker 5: we jumped from a couple of weeks ago when you
Speaker 5: didn't even know about using the phrase dating because it
Speaker 5: was so one on one and like very committed, Like
Speaker 5: that meant you were very committed to now taking it
Speaker 5: two steps ahead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And talking about a.
Speaker 4: Promise was halfway joking when I said, like I would
Speaker 4: ask you to be my girlfriend, but it was like
Speaker 4: a halfway joke thing. And then she was like, well,
Speaker 4: if that's gonna happen, I need a promis ring. And
Speaker 4: then that laid down that discussion. Yeah, now I'm a.
Speaker 2: Firm believer like you all are.
Speaker 4: Where it did seem a little bit childish, it did
Speaker 4: seem a little bit young. And then I'm also of
Speaker 4: the mindset that the only ring you should get somebody
Speaker 4: is that ring she'd be like your wedding ring. But
Speaker 4: then I'm also in a stance where it's like, just
Speaker 4: because it's something that I don't consider to be quote
Speaker 4: unquote maybe mature or something that I've strayed away from.
Speaker 4: If that's what she on, then, like you know, with
Speaker 4: your personal 't that big.
Speaker 2: A deal to me?
Speaker 1: I think it takes away from the the the ring.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I think I think when you give a ring like that,
Speaker 1: it takes away from the moment of when you, oh
Speaker 1: my god, a ring, you know, But.
Speaker 2: Then you got somebody like Shannon and I had it
Speaker 2: for thirty years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but she was in high school. But I'm saying
Speaker 1: it means something. But here's the thing.
Speaker 5: I mean, at the time, it really did, like that
Speaker 5: was a big deal to me.
Speaker 1: I also thought, you want to marry them? I feel like,
Speaker 1: when do you start buying jewelry for somebody that you
Speaker 1: just met? You only met her like a month and
Speaker 1: a month and what was the hour party that was?
Speaker 2: Like it was June.
Speaker 5: I think it was May. I think you've been together
Speaker 5: for a month.
Speaker 2: Together is crazy?
Speaker 5: It was basically Jim all right, Well, I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: What's babe, Good morning guy.
Speaker 2: What do you think? Gabe?
Speaker 7: I don't know, come on, okay, what's the promised ring
Speaker 7: gonna do? I mean, you know, ring just significant by
Speaker 7: like you know, be like significant.
Speaker 8: You know, like mean something.
Speaker 7: I feel like when you're dating that you could break
Speaker 7: up any time and it wouldn't really mean anything more
Speaker 7: than if you were to be engaged or married. Then
Speaker 7: a ring, like you know, it significant, it means something
Speaker 7: more than just a normal relationship. And I feel like
Speaker 7: you're old enough to realize that, especially you know, having
Speaker 7: a very serious relationship in the past. So I was
Speaker 7: trying to shock yourself a promise ring.
Speaker 5: To me, though, it just it almost seems like it's
Speaker 5: not about the ring. She's just craving some sort of
Speaker 5: commitment for me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I mean again, ab, but I don't know
Speaker 4: how much you heard. This wasn't my idea, this was
Speaker 4: something that she brought up. But I also feel like
Speaker 4: I think there are different levels of commitment to someone,
Speaker 4: Like once you go past the dating and you say
Speaker 4: I want to only be with you and I want
Speaker 4: to be in a monogamous relationship, that's a commitment to say, okay,
Speaker 4: we're going to be in a relationship. And I think
Speaker 4: there's another commitment where you say I'm going to marry you.
Speaker 4: So I think there are different levels of commitment. And
Speaker 4: then different people have their things that symbolize those commitments,
Speaker 4: and some people words just aren't enough. Maybe they want
Speaker 4: something that's a symbol of it, Like you say, an
Speaker 4: engagement ring that's a physical symbol of the fact that
Speaker 4: you have said we're going to be together forever, and
Speaker 4: for some people they want that with a relationship.
Speaker 1: You know what, it is a bigger commitment than the
Speaker 1: ring key to the crib, as you would say that
Speaker 1: you have a key to the crib.
Speaker 2: Nobody got to get my mom My, Mama don't got
Speaker 2: a key to the What.
Speaker 5: About Grandma Alice or Grandmama save Grandma? Grandma Alice is
Speaker 5: there in spirit every day Grandmama want even.
Speaker 2: Comes in and created. Yeah, walking down there.
Speaker 1: Wait real quick, though, you would you give a girl
Speaker 1: the key to your place? When when when you get
Speaker 1: when you moved in? Yeah, that's that's where I would
Speaker 1: be on. Dear draw what's up, Dear dra Hi, Good
Speaker 1: morning everyone, fantastic, what's going on?
Speaker 3: Hey? Listen, First of all, like you said earlier, it's
Speaker 3: the surprise. Is the oh my god, this moment. That's
Speaker 3: the wedding ring. It's twenty twenty six. For whatever reason,
Speaker 3: the world of women that has gotten a bit insecure,
Speaker 3: in my opinion, for the fact that that ring as
Speaker 3: a promised ring in you're dating, No, she won't find
Speaker 3: every want you'll.
Speaker 8: Break up to break my heart.
Speaker 3: I mean seriously, it's taken away from the moment of
Speaker 3: the engagement, of the wedding ring. You know, and anybody
Speaker 3: and everybody can day you don't know, like things happen.
Speaker 3: Hopefully you don't break up, but don't do.
Speaker 1: It, dear dry. I worry it sends a mixed signal
Speaker 1: to everybody around them that, oh my god, you guys,
Speaker 1: because people look at rings as it's a for you know,
Speaker 1: this is an engagement.
Speaker 2: But I'm not.
Speaker 3: Even it hasn't been even a month or six months
Speaker 3: anything like that.
Speaker 4: But I'm also I'm not I'm not somebody that's about
Speaker 4: to be making decisions based on what other people think
Speaker 4: about it. Yeah, like, I don't give a damn what
Speaker 4: y'all think about you know what I'm saying, And me
Speaker 4: and my partner in but y'all worried.
Speaker 2: I'm not sleeping with y'all. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I you know what I mean, I uh, I would
Speaker 1: care what people why they not in your relationship because
Speaker 1: they get done talking about chance, they're gonna go talk
Speaker 1: about somebody else's all of a sudden, her mom and
Speaker 1: dad are gonna be like, you got a ring from him?
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Then all of a sudden. It takes
Speaker 1: that relationship. It goes from zero to one hundred.
Speaker 4: We had that conversation yesterday too, about a bunch of stuff,
Speaker 4: just not being the help.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Have you met you met her dad? Did you have
Speaker 1: a talk with you?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I want like that. That's another time I got that written.
Speaker 2: All right? What's up there?
Speaker 1: Later?
Speaker 2: What's up Robin?
Speaker 8: If a man gave my grown ass a promise? Don't
Speaker 8: please don't.
Speaker 5: But I actually love what you said, because I have
Speaker 5: always plod on promise rings. I do think it's like
Speaker 5: a middle school, high school, high school thing.
Speaker 8: However, cool.
Speaker 5: I love what you said though about it may not
Speaker 5: be important to any of us, and we may roll
Speaker 5: our eyes, but it's important to her.
Speaker 2: And that's what you're focused on.
Speaker 4: Where do people who actually appreciate that?
Speaker 1: I don't like it, But if it's your thing, then
Speaker 1: it's your thing. Hold that saying, Cameron is one of them?
Speaker 1: What's up Cameron? You want to say?
Speaker 2: Camera?
Speaker 6: So I thoroughly believe that buying a promise ring is
Speaker 6: better than a necklace?
Speaker 1: Okay? Could you like wearings better than necklaces?
Speaker 8: I did?
Speaker 2: Well say that one more time? Your phone.
Speaker 1: You don't robot mo Now it must be the weather
Speaker 1: or something. Your phone is crazy.
Speaker 2: Again. I have ever heard what text to you? The better?
Speaker 2: That's much better.
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, have you guys ever heard of the necklace
Speaker 8: curse before?
Speaker 2: No? The necklace curse? That's interesting? What is it? Tell us?
Speaker 5: Oh my god, study to nuts and I want to
Speaker 5: hear it because that's the first thing Less ever bought
Speaker 5: me was a necklace.
Speaker 2: What is the what is the necklace curse?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 7: So within like the first year or so of a relationship,
Speaker 7: if you buy somebody a necklace, your relationship is basically
Speaker 7: going to sail.
Speaker 2: Oh god, interesting I've had.
Speaker 7: I've had three different boyfriends buy me a necklace within
Speaker 7: the first like four months, and all of them we've
Speaker 7: all broken up.
Speaker 1: Wow, Chandon just took off her neck Actually, I take
Speaker 1: that back.
Speaker 5: He got me the bracelet first and then he got
Speaker 5: me but he got me the matching necklace for our
Speaker 5: one year anniversary right over there.
Speaker 2: It was like a couple hours after this. Nivers, You're
Speaker 2: in the clear. That's an interesting thing, that the necklace.
Speaker 2: It's a movie called Nicole.
Speaker 1: You were actually calling to say a necklace do you
Speaker 1: think that's a good idea after the necklace.
Speaker 2: Curse your thoughts.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I.
Speaker 6: Was thinking it would be less engagement of feel.
Speaker 3: But maybe earrings or a necklace just just a different
Speaker 3: type of jewelry.
Speaker 8: Other than a ring.
Speaker 1: See, but is it about the jewelry giving it or
Speaker 1: is it about the I mean, I know there's like
Speaker 1: symbolism and stuff. I think there's more symbolism to the
Speaker 1: ring thing, and that's the that's the deal, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the symbolism is more I feel engagement forever, whereas
Speaker 3: like maybe a necklace or ear rings would be more
Speaker 3: of like you know, I'm committing to you.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me grab real quick, Angela, Angela, what did
Speaker 1: you got a promise ring at?
Speaker 2: How old?
Speaker 8: At forty three years old?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 1: I did forty three year old promise ring. All right,
Speaker 1: let's talk to somebody. Did you want one or did
Speaker 1: they just give it to you?
Speaker 8: I did? I just believe it's very chivalrous, and it
Speaker 8: was and even asked like keV said he was going
Speaker 8: to ask her or she wanted he was going to
Speaker 8: ask her to be his girlfriend or something. Most people
Speaker 8: don't do that anymore either, And there I don't see
Speaker 8: anything wrong with it. It's it's beautiful. It's exactly what
Speaker 8: I wanted.
Speaker 1: When he gave you the ring, did he say like,
Speaker 1: did you know it was a promise ring? Or did
Speaker 1: you in your gut think, oh my god, I'm getting engaged.
Speaker 8: I was a promise ring. And I mean he went
Speaker 8: like all out, took me and the kids to dinner,
Speaker 8: did this whole this whole thing. We videoed it. It
Speaker 8: was so super cute.
Speaker 4: Okay, Now when you when you get a promise ring
Speaker 4: that doesn't start a timeline as is like, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, because I don't want it to seem like, Okay,
Speaker 4: you got this promise ring and then you think we're
Speaker 4: about to get married in the year.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, I don't want to set up.
Speaker 8: I don't think it does. I don't I don't think
Speaker 8: it does. It was just, you know, kind of a
Speaker 8: promise to keep the promises, be held accountable and then
Speaker 8: look forward to the together. It was not a I
Speaker 8: promise I'm going to marry you in the year. It's
Speaker 8: just something and it's just something sweet that you can
Speaker 8: do for the person that you care about and if
Speaker 8: that's going to make her feel comfortable. Why not?
Speaker 2: You know, where are you guys at now?
Speaker 8: Angela, we're about four years in to be four years.
Speaker 2: In engaged married.
Speaker 8: What are you Nope, just promise, just stating yeah.
Speaker 1: That might actually put it off for a while. I
Speaker 1: kind of like that. That sounds like a good idea.
Speaker 1: Hold on, Renee with a question before we wrap this up, Renee,
Speaker 1: what's your question?
Speaker 8: Yes, by everyone, Well, we heard.
Speaker 2: Part of your comments.
Speaker 6: And and also to breast cancer survivor, but I'm just
Speaker 6: curious how many promise rings does she have and that
Speaker 6: she asked us all of her of all the people
Speaker 6: that she dates. And also, by the way, I also
Speaker 6: agree with Shannon. I think it's very June now like
Speaker 6: high school, I mean at most college.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: By the way, that's an interesting question you should ask that.
Speaker 1: Has anybody ever given you a well, great question. The
Speaker 1: biggest promise that you could ever give is no breakfast
Speaker 1: on Saturdays.
Speaker 2: That's a big, big one. That's a good. That's a good.
Speaker 2: That's a good one. All right,