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Speaker 1: ninety three point three. Kjar all right, we talked nothing

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Speaker 1: but football so far.

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Speaker 2: We got to switch it up. We need to change up.

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Speaker 2: No pun intended, maybe there was. Daniel Kramer joins us

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Speaker 2: from Peoria, covers the Mariagers for MLB dot Com.

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Speaker 3: Hi Daniel, how are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm good?

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Speaker 5: And speaking of change ups, we're about to watch Luis

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Speaker 5: Castillo take them ound.

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Speaker 3: There we go. Yeah, nighttime baseball at Praia.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, first one of the season. So we do

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Speaker 5: like the day games down here from time to time.

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Speaker 5: It kind of breaks up the extremely early mornings and

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Speaker 5: the long days and it's just like an easier pace

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Speaker 5: when we do get the occasional one. But yeah, excited

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Speaker 5: to see the rocket back out there. And we've got

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Speaker 5: a few other regulars in the lineup as well, so

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Speaker 5: we'll get on here shortly.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's let's start. Since you mentioned castile, let's start

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Speaker 2: with the starting pitching. And I saw the numbers from

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Speaker 2: Bryce Miller, the velocity numbers in his last start, and

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Speaker 2: I read online they were being compared to last year's

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Speaker 3: So to your eyes, what did you see from Bryce?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I saw in general, I've seen more confidence and

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Speaker 5: conviction from Bryce over the past couple of weeks. He

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Speaker 5: showed up just feeling really good, which is extremely encouraging

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Speaker 5: for both him and the Mariners, given all the stepbacks

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Speaker 5: and issues that he dealt with those bone spurs that

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Speaker 5: and you know, just a tough summer months before, you know,

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Speaker 5: terms of you know, the off speed as well that

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Speaker 5: he was able to kind of mix in yesterday. The

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Speaker 5: big focus for him at this stage of Cactus League

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Speaker 5: play is you only get you know, twenty or thirty

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Speaker 6: And you know what he's trying.

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Speaker 5: To focus on in that regard is he talks bluntly

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Speaker 6: But the vlo's up.

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Speaker 5: He's feeling good, he feels like he's found in solutions

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Speaker 5: you know, big spring so far for Breston.

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Speaker 7: Daniel Kramer with us, and so tomorrow night we see

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Speaker 7: Kate Anderson. And I've been intrigued Daniel being down in

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Speaker 7: Peoria with the with the credential you can as you know,

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Speaker 7: the Science Club. You know, they're just a different build

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Speaker 6: Well, before I.

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Speaker 6: He's built like a tight end, but yes.

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Speaker 5: first time since the College World Series. You know, that's

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Speaker 5: But the workload that he's accumulated, you know, one hundred

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Speaker 5: really seen that breadthon in major League baseball hun through

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Speaker 5: You know, he's able to flush like bad pitches and

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Speaker 2: So is best case scenario for these two guys that

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Speaker 5: To their ceiling, are the best rotations in the entire sport. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: But like things happen. They had four guys go down

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Speaker 5: the Midsummer. But you know, and talking to Jerry Depoto

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Speaker 5: to hear Jerry kind of say that about these two

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Speaker 7: Daniel Kramer with us and Daniel we had justin Hollander

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Speaker 7: not long ago. He kind of said, hey, look, second

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Speaker 7: Who's having a heck of a spring.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, They're really excited about the scribe Cole made in

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Speaker 5: his off season, specifically with the footwork he's done on

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Speaker 5: he was an above average major league hitter. That said,

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Speaker 5: You know, so I look, I mean, I'll take Hollander's

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Speaker 2: You bet you Daniel Kramer from MLB dot Com watching

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Speaker 2: Interesting guests that Ian had on yesterday, Our old friend

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Speaker 9: Here's my favorite moll begin on Jack Hughes practice Sloan

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Speaker 3: Jack Hughes books are around the park.

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Speaker 9: Get out of states with numbers, walk across it comes

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Speaker 9: Jack Hughes Witch the golden goal for the United States. Well,

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Speaker 3: Was that just last Sunday?

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Speaker 3: And I was wrong. You I said five million views.

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Speaker 2: chuckle at. Now they have clarified them. Since then, they

435
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Speaker 2: have had people come out from the team and apologize

436
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Speaker 2: for chuckling for his comment about the women's team, which

437
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Speaker 2: I totally appreciate them, totally appreciate them doing. But for me,

438
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Speaker 2: and I've said this from the beginning, even before Jerry's

439
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Speaker 2: peace came out, I'm going to visit the White House.

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Speaker 2: If I'm invited, I'm going to visit I am If

441
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Speaker 2: I'm invited to go to the State of the Union dress,

442
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Speaker 2: I'm going to go to the State of Union dress.

443
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Speaker 2: I said that on Monday, before Jerry's piece even came out.

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Speaker 2: Regardless of the color of the party of the president,

445
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Speaker 2: I don't believe that this administration should be treated any

446
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Speaker 2: different than any other administration when it comes to me

447
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 2: going to the White House or if my son or

448
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 2: daughter got the opportunity to go to the White House.

449
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Speaker 2: Because I've always respected the office, regardless of what party

450
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Speaker 2: is in office. I have always respected the office of

451
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Speaker 2: the President of the United States. So the reckless comment

452
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Speaker 2: I didn't think was correct. Jerry's got his opinion on that.

453
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Speaker 2: I want to play a little bit of Jerry's comments

454
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Speaker 2: and then we're going to get give the Florida Hugh.

455
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Speaker 3: Here's Jerry with Ian yesterday.

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Speaker 10: You're talking about a bunch of American heroes in the

457
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Speaker 10: US man's hockey team, but the accomplishment versus the after party,

458
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Speaker 10: Like it's so strikingly different, and like how the accomplishment

459
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Speaker 10: united US, and how I felt like their moment was

460
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 10: co opted by certain political powers, you know, starting with

461
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Speaker 10: the beer chugging FBI director who didn't need to be

462
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Speaker 10: in the locker room with those guys, you know, on

463
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Speaker 10: through to the way the way the joke that the

464
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Speaker 10: President made, and even the way that that he presented

465
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Speaker 10: them and brought him out during the State of the

466
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Speaker 10: Union address, Like it didn't feel as inspiring for all

467
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Speaker 10: Americans as as that moment when when Jack made the

468
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Speaker 10: Golden Gold you know, and so it was just something

469
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Speaker 10: that I felt like needed to be said. I think

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Speaker 10: I said it in a way that wasn't just like

471
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Speaker 10: so arrogantly I'm right, you're wrong, you know. I tried

472
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Speaker 10: to really really lay this out, and ultimately it was

473
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Speaker 10: it was a column about sports washing and how if

474
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Speaker 10: you let, like, especially in this societal climate that we're in,

475
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Speaker 10: if you're not careful about the way politicians celebrate you,

476
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Speaker 10: you can unknowingly be weaponized in a way that you

477
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Speaker 10: didn't intend to be weaponized.

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Speaker 2: So I don't believe it needed to be said. Jerry

479
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 2: says that it needed to be said. I don't believe

480
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Speaker 2: personally that it need to be said. However, I respect

481
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Speaker 2: Jerry as a journalist. I think he's unbelievable. I respect

482
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Speaker 2: Jerry as a friend that I have had ever since

483
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Speaker 2: he came to Seattle, like twenty years ago. I met

484
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Speaker 2: him a sonics practice twenty years ago, and we hit

485
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Speaker 2: it off from from from the get go.

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Speaker 3: So I want to get your I want to get

487
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Speaker 3: your feeling on what you heard there and then reading the.

488
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Speaker 7: Article, Well, I like Jerry a lot. I respected his professionalism.

489
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Speaker 7: I didn't like that call him. I didn't like that take.

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Speaker 6: You know, he.

491
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Speaker 7: Also said with the in there's a difference between trying

492
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Speaker 7: to get everybody into a feeling of togetherness versus trying

493
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Speaker 7: to get a certain base into a feeling of superior

494
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Speaker 7: superiority over other Americans. And I'm trying to understand what

495
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Speaker 7: valid criticism he has of the players, because if you

496
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Speaker 7: go back to athletes, you know, like this, athletes going

497
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Speaker 7: to the White House started in eighteen sixty five with

498
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Speaker 7: Andrew Johnson, the Brooklyn Athletics, Washington Centers. You listen to

499
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 7: s Grant with the Cincinnati Reds nineteen twenty five, the

500
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Speaker 7: Senators with Calvin Coolidge, the Celtics when they were champions

501
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Speaker 7: in nineteen sixty three, with Kennedy through the eighties, and

502
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Speaker 7: Reagan and on virtually every champion you know, as far

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Speaker 7: as State of the Union athletes twenty twenty three, DeMar

504
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Speaker 7: Hamlin and his canner Jason Collins to Kembe Matombo, the

505
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Speaker 7: family of Tyree Nichols, Pat Tillman when Clinton was president,

506
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Speaker 7: Sammy Sosa was there, Hank Aaron, Julie Foudyu, the captain

507
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Speaker 7: of the nineteen ninety nine World Cup. So there are

508
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Speaker 7: there are scores of examples of athletes at the White

509
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Speaker 7: House and the State of the Union. Are are they

510
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Speaker 7: being politicized?

511
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Speaker 6: Then?

512
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Speaker 7: Are are they being brought together to show a superiority

513
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Speaker 7: and a dominance of a certain base that he I

514
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Speaker 7: think Jerry opens them up himself up to saying, look,

515
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Speaker 7: your critique is stemming from a political worldview that doesn't

516
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Speaker 7: agree with what you saw. I think he opens himself

517
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Speaker 7: up for that.

518
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Speaker 6: Uh uh.

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Speaker 7: He then says to this isn't a normal This isn't

520
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Speaker 7: HW Bush. I'm talking about Jerry.

521
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Speaker 3: This isn't w.

522
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Speaker 7: Bush, this isn't Obama, this isn't Clinton of anybody, all

523
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Speaker 7: of them inviting you to the White House. This is

524
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Speaker 7: a climate is different, so you have to react accordingly.

525
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Speaker 7: And he talks about, look, I've said it Monday. I

526
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Speaker 7: think what what Trump said about the women. I don't

527
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Speaker 7: know if he would amplify his thoughts. Maybe if he

528
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Speaker 7: amplicified his thoughts, he says, you know, the women are

529
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Speaker 7: gonna have to go, and that's really unfortunate because I

530
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 7: think women have no places in sports. I think they

531
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Speaker 7: should be in the kitchen and ironing my shirts like that.

532
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Speaker 7: Maybe that's what he thought. Maybe he thought that, Hey,

533
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 7: the women, the women are gonna have to be there too,

534
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Speaker 7: and you're gonna have to share the stage. I would

535
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Speaker 7: love to have just you guys and then just the women.

536
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Speaker 7: That would be obviously charitable to Trump. I'm not inclined

537
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Speaker 7: to say that, but there at least a window that

538
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Speaker 7: that could have been. He hasn't explained that. But let's

539
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,239
Speaker 7: assume the worst. Okay, that that was that that but

540
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 7: that that was a uh, totally inappropriate comment. Well, let's

541
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Speaker 7: compare that comment to Bill Clinton who said about Monica Lewinsky,

542
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Speaker 7: I did not have sexual relations. That was only revealed

543
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Speaker 7: after the the evidence on the Blue Dress, the Paula

544
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 7: Jones sexual harassment suit, where his his campaign manager said,

545
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Speaker 7: if you drag a hundred dollars bill through a trailer park,

546
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 7: you never know what you might find about Jennifer Flowers. Well,

547
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 7: she's just a failed lounge singer, wanted a broaderick. Five

548
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 7: uh uh witnesses testified as to her like physically abused

549
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 7: by by Clinton, Kathleen Willeye. That goes on and on,

550
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 7: and they their camp said those are bimbo eruptions. So

551
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Speaker 7: if you're looking for evidence that Bill Clinton is misogynists

552
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Speaker 7: or or uh diminishes the accomplishments of women or the

553
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Speaker 7: charges of women. You've got plenty of evidence. Okay, but

554
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Speaker 7: uh and and hell, even even Obama, who nobody thinks

555
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Speaker 7: is is a sexist ending in regard he had a

556
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Speaker 7: comment where he said, uh to uh a Detroit reporter, Uh,

557
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Speaker 7: hang on, sweetie. Well he got a lot of flak

558
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Speaker 7: for saying hang on, sweetie to a woman. All right, So,

559
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Speaker 7: and I'm not trying to to rank them. I'm certainly

560
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 7: trying with Bill Clinton putting into to focus that there

561
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Speaker 7: there have been presidents that have clearly marginalized women and

562
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Speaker 7: so so. But my take would be, look, that is

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Speaker 7: that is not to be distinguished with Olympic accomplishments. And

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Speaker 7: if you get, as you said, you get you get

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Speaker 7: an opportunity to go see the White House, and let's

566
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Speaker 7: talk about that that locker room. If you listen to

567
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 7: the entire conversation there, he says, Uh. Trump says, the

568
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 7: nice thing about being president is you don't have to

569
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Speaker 7: worry about the weather or landing. The whole hockey team erupts.

570
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 7: They're laughing because he's the president, and there's all kinds

571
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Speaker 7: of psychological factors in play right there in that moment,

572
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 7: obedience to authority that the players what's called a heuristic

573
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Speaker 7: of deference. That's what's called polite laughter, the laughter reflex

574
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 7: in a nervous situation, and laughter is a homes stasis.

575
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Speaker 7: Laughter is attention release mechanism. They laughed in the moment,

576
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 7: the social scripting of talking with a historical figure, the

577
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Speaker 7: president of the United States, and the final one of

578
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 7: what's called effective realism, which is an intense internal feeling,

579
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Speaker 7: in this case, joy for having just upset. This was

580
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 7: not the NBA players in basketball was the this is hockey.

581
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 7: You beat the best players in the world. So they've

582
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Speaker 7: got this feeling of joy in this surreal detail, and

583
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Speaker 7: right in that split second a joke comes in. The

584
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Speaker 7: President laughs, and they're not in a position to process

585
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Speaker 7: a political statement requiring a calculated response. This is a

586
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Speaker 7: natural response in the moment. And so then you know,

587
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Speaker 7: look like we're looking at Jack Hughes and he's got

588
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Speaker 7: all of this. How many times did he say, I'm

589
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Speaker 7: so proud to be an American. I'm so proud to

590
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Speaker 7: be American. Look, we can all agree, how divisive whether

591
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Speaker 7: you're a Trump supporter or a Trump hater. We can

592
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Speaker 7: agree that he is divisive, right, Yes, I think we

593
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 7: could also agree on a relative scale, he's pretty patriotic.

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Speaker 7: There was a moment there where they were sharing the patriotism.

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Speaker 7: It was in the split second. And to to to

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Speaker 7: scrutinize those athletes after they had just beat the best

597
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Speaker 7: hockey team in the world in that in that fashion,

598
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Speaker 7: and now there's this awkward joke to think that they

599
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Speaker 7: should have like that's that is setting a bar that

600
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Speaker 7: that is so absurd to set that bar. And the

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Speaker 7: final thing that bothered me about what Jerry said to

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Speaker 7: Ian as he said, quote, can we stop draping ourselves

603
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Speaker 7: in the American flag and just be human beings?

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Speaker 6: End?

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Speaker 7: Quote? No, Jerry, not at the Olympics. That's a time

606
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Speaker 7: to drape it, figuratively and literally, to drape yourself in

607
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Speaker 7: the American flag. The United States is the greatest nation

608
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Speaker 7: and entity for freedom in the history of the world.

609
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Speaker 7: And if you disagree with that statement, you haven't read enough.

610
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Speaker 7: Are we perfect?

611
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Speaker 11: No, we can go through our list of transgressions and

612
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 11: our faults, but that there is nothing wrong with patriotism,

613
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 11: and in those Olympic moments when we just had an

614
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Speaker 11: upset of the greatest hockey team in the world, and

615
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Speaker 11: he wants to come on here with these these kids.

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Speaker 7: These innocuous kids just like proclaiming their love for playing

617
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 7: for the country. That is the Olympic spirit, and Jerry

618
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 7: wants to come on and say, can we just stop

619
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Speaker 7: draping ourselves in the American flag? So at any of it,

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Speaker 7: that's a that's it. That's just a summary of the things.

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Speaker 7: I disagree with him. I respect him. I don't know

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Speaker 7: if we're tight enough to be called friends. I'm certainly

623
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 7: friendly with him, but I do not agree with that

624
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Speaker 7: take in that column whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: I would just close with this, and I appreciate your

626
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Speaker 2: statements there, Hugh is Hugh. I would just I would

627
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Speaker 2: ask those who are criticizing the team to just put

628
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Speaker 2: yourself in the shoes of those athletes in that moment.

629
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Speaker 2: Just try to, because Hugh put it, put it very

630
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 2: very well, biggest moment of their lives, massively emotional. The

631
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Speaker 2: President of the United States invites you on a military

632
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Speaker 2: plane to join him in the Oval Office for the

633
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Speaker 2: State of.

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Speaker 3: The Union address.

635
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Speaker 2: Are you gonna be the one that steps up and

636
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Speaker 2: says no, I don't like you, sir, I'm not going

637
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Speaker 2: are you Are you really gonna be the one that

638
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 2: does that?

639
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Speaker 3: Are you really gonna be the.

640
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Speaker 2: One that that turns that offered down in that moment.

641
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Speaker 3: I don't think there's a lot of people that would.

642
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Speaker 7: And it should should Sammy Sosa have in nineteen ninety

643
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 7: nine have he said, look, your record President Clinton with

644
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 7: respects to misogyny rises to a level that I cannot

645
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 7: come there, right, Like.

646
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Speaker 2: If it's an individual but you mentioned it's like group think, right,

647
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Speaker 2: this is this is more of a group invitation.

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Speaker 3: I think if Sammy was invited.

649
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Speaker 2: He would be able to just individual July say yes

650
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 2: or no without the group just you.

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Speaker 3: Know, overwhelmingly say yes. On the phone. They were all

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Speaker 3: like yelling on the phone.

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Speaker 7: Sorry to interrupt you. But regarding group think, when when

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Speaker 7: the when Trump said, uh, if you would like to

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Speaker 7: come to the State of the Union, everybody's quiet. Then

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Speaker 7: one guy says yeah, we're in, and within a millisecond

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Speaker 7: the rest of them are yeah, yeah, yeah, we're in.

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Speaker 7: Like like they're sitting around each other, going how do

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Speaker 7: we handle this? One guy steps up. There's absolutely great

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Speaker 7: group think going on Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's it's fascinating. I mean, I wish we could just

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Speaker 2: kind of celebrate the gold medal. And yes, inappropriate things

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Speaker 2: were said, they were laughed at, they were apologized for.

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Speaker 3: But I truly believe.

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Speaker 2: By the team's actions, by the men's team's actions that

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00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 2: were corroborated by both the men's team and the women's

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Speaker 2: team at the Olympics, I believe that the men had

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Speaker 2: full appreciation and full respect effect for the United States

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Speaker 2: women's national team.

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Speaker 7: And Jack Hughes was in attendant and others were in

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Speaker 7: attendance for the women. They watched the gold medal game.

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Speaker 7: They they could have been resting and and what anticipating

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Speaker 7: their future games. They were It's they they showed the support.

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Speaker 3: Uh there.

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Speaker 7: So look, all decent people, all decent people would condemn

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Speaker 7: any demeaning of women on that from the president of course,

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Speaker 7: right like like like that. I don't even think that

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Speaker 7: has to be debated. The man of the way that

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Speaker 7: it played out and the expectations for the hockey players,

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Speaker 7: that's an entirely different topic, and I think Jerry Brewer

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Speaker 7: missed the mark.

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Speaker 2: We'll get back to some Seahawks talk coming up next.

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Speaker 2: On ninety three point three KJRFM.

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Speaker 2: Heading to seven o'clock. Jackson's here, Hugh is here, Softian

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Speaker 2: Dick without the soft one and Hugh Jackson and I

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Speaker 2: had some debates this week, you know, Seahawks related debates

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Speaker 2: this week, and we were going through you know, our

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Speaker 2: biggest worries and uh, and we kind of had a

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Speaker 2: disagreement on the gap between the Seahawks and the rest

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Speaker 2: of the NFC.

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Speaker 3: And if I'm.

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Speaker 2: Putting words in Jackson's mouth, I apologize and I'll let

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Speaker 2: him clarify. But you know, Jackson really doesn't think that

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Speaker 2: there's any team that's close in the NFC to the Seahawks.

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Speaker 3: Is that corre Fl in the the.

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Speaker 2: NFL, Okay in the NFL, then the than the Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: I would agree that there's no team close in the

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Speaker 2: AFC to the Seahawks. But I look at three football

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Speaker 2: games against the Rams that all came down to the

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Speaker 2: blaze of a knife, and some were dominated by you know,

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00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 2: the game that was dominated by the Hawks they lost.

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00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: The game that was dominated by the Rams they lost.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it was just.

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Speaker 2: I think if you played fifty games between the Seahawks

711
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Speaker 2: and the Rams, the outcome would be pretty damn close

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Speaker 2: to twenty five and twenty five. So I think that

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Speaker 2: that probably carries over to next season. But to Jackson's point,

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Speaker 2: they're getting older, we should be entering more into our prime.

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Speaker 2: Are you more siding with Jackson on the gap between

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Speaker 2: the Seahawks and the Rams?

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Speaker 3: Are you more siding with me?

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Speaker 7: Do you think it's tight?

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Speaker 3: I think he's very tight. Yeah, it's very tight. Well,

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Speaker 3: I think that.

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Speaker 7: Let me know how Matthew Stafford how's back? You know,

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Speaker 7: does he want to play? What's what's the state of

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Speaker 7: his back? You know, well through August, you know, he

724
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Speaker 7: wasn't practicing whatever. I don't know what kind of shot

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Speaker 7: he or whatever.

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Speaker 2: That was some good, good whatever it was, Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: that was some good stuff the Matthew Stafford's back and

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Speaker 2: turned him into an MVP because I hadn't forgotten about

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Speaker 2: that he was the MVP this year, and yet we

730
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Speaker 2: didn't even know if he was gonna play at the

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Speaker 2: beginning of the season.

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Speaker 7: He wasn't practicing, right, and I thought, well, this could

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Speaker 7: be a Jimmy g season for the Rams. You know,

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Speaker 7: I was kind of discredited. So now the Seahawks as

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Speaker 7: far as teammates, now, this is a ranking. You don't

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Speaker 7: want to be number one, all right. The forty nine

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Speaker 7: Ers are number one, meaning the oldest, all right, and

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Speaker 7: the Seahawks are twenty one. Tennessee is thirty two. They're

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Speaker 7: the youngest, right, So the Seas at twenty one, the

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Speaker 7: Rams are at thirteen, So the Hawks have an advantage,

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Speaker 7: but you know, one or two old guys drop off

742
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Speaker 7: and things could change a lot. I feel like Brandon

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Speaker 7: Bean their GM, excuse me, less need less need The

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Speaker 7: GM of the Rams is, you know, he's pretty potent,

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Speaker 7: as is obviously John Schneider. So I think that right now,

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Speaker 7: I think long term, i'd certainly am more bullish on

747
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 7: the Seahawks. But but the Rams, because of Stafford, that's

748
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Speaker 7: just a next level that they can reach, and so

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Speaker 7: I would tend to think that they're pretty closely aligned.

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Speaker 2: Hey, well the Backsports Radio ninety three point three kJ

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Speaker 2: With you and excited for storm season to start. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: I'll be going into what about my seventeenth year something

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Speaker 3: Coach, How are you.

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Speaker 6: I'm doing well. I'm doing well. I'm currently here in Boston, Massachusetts,

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Speaker 6: and so you know, I'm here in a little b

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Speaker 6: liberd right now. He's got about thirteen inches of snow.

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Speaker 6: So this is a good breakaway for me.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, Well, God bless you out there.

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Speaker 2: I know not many people are going very far, not

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Speaker 2: traveling very far, but you're out there, I know that

773
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Speaker 2: You've spent a lot of time in the G League

774
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Speaker 2: out in the Northwest or in the Northeast rather most recently,

775
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: just kind of talk about that transition and going from

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Speaker 2: G League basketball where you were coach and general manager

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Speaker 2: now to coaching on the WNBA side.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think for me person, it's been

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00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 6: it's been a fun ride. You know. I've spent twelve

780
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Speaker 6: seasons in the NBA in a lot of different roles.

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Speaker 6: I've been an assistant coach in the NBA, I've been

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Speaker 6: a head coach in the G League the GM and

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Speaker 6: a video guy in the G League. So I've kind

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Speaker 6: of done a little bit of everything at that level

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Speaker 6: for the most part, and I think for me, it's

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Speaker 6: gonna be a fun transition. You know. For the last

787
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Speaker 6: couple of seasons, I was also an NBA scout with

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Speaker 6: the Boston Celtics, so I got to get my evaluation

789
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Speaker 6: hat on and learn a little bit from Brad Stevens

790
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Speaker 6: and the rest of that front office group, who is

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Speaker 6: you know, amazing evaluators and people and bakers of the game.

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Speaker 6: So it just gives me a different lens. They kind

793
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Speaker 6: of see things through and so I'm excited to get

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Speaker 6: started with with Seattle and help Sonya and Talisa try

795
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Speaker 6: to bring bring the light their vision.

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Speaker 3: Well, how did you get together with Sonia and to Lisa?

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Speaker 2: What does the relationship look like between you you guys

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Speaker 2: over the years.

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Speaker 6: That is a great question. You know, ironically, I did

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00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 6: not know Sonia up until she got the job and

801
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 6: she reached out. You know, obviously we had, you know,

802
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Speaker 6: been kind of around the same circles of her time

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Speaker 6: with the Grizzlies, and at that point, I think I

804
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Speaker 6: was also with the Wizards, saying a little bit with

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Speaker 6: the Celtics, but we had never you know, had a conversation,

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Speaker 6: never really spoken. You know, we had a lot of

807
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Speaker 6: mutual friends, and so one of our mutual friends was

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Speaker 6: with her with the New York Liberty, and so he

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Speaker 6: was a good friend of mine, and he passed along

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Speaker 6: my name and my contact information once she got the

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Speaker 6: job in Seattle, and and she reached out, and we

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Speaker 6: instantly hit it off, and you know, things kind of

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Speaker 6: sparked from there.

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Speaker 2: I saw you working out as out of the video

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Speaker 2: with you working out some players. We don't have a

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Speaker 2: lot of players on this team, but the few players

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Speaker 2: we have on this team right now. I know a

818
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Speaker 2: lot of a lot of teams are looking to build

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Speaker 2: once this CBA gets finalized.

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Speaker 3: But what have you seen from the few that did

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Speaker 3: you have been able to work with?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean basically, we just had Jordan and Market

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Speaker 6: and I got a chance to work with her for

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Speaker 6: the first you know, a couple of days I was there,

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Speaker 6: and you know, everybody knows Jordan she's she's an unbelievable talent,

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Speaker 6: and she plays with this energy and this passion and

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Speaker 6: her versatility on both ends of the floor something that's special.

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Speaker 6: So I was just trying to tap into that during

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Speaker 6: the workout, throw a lot of different things at her,

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Speaker 6: you know, And I think one of the things that

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Speaker 6: makes her a special player and that's going to be

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Speaker 6: really impactful for us, is just being able to defend

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Speaker 6: at a high level, but also someone that can get

834
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Speaker 6: to the paint and create for herself and her teammates.

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Speaker 6: And so, you know, I love the energy that she

836
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Speaker 6: was playing with and that she competed with in the workout.

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Speaker 6: She's a fierst competitor, as everybody knows. You know, she

838
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Speaker 6: hates to lose, and you know, we made some of

839
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Speaker 6: those workouts and some of those drills challenging, you know,

840
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Speaker 6: her versus the coach or her versus and myself, And

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Speaker 6: it was one of those things where you can just

842
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Speaker 6: see the passion for competition that she has and obviously

843
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Speaker 6: sitting out all of last season, she's just pitching to

844
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Speaker 6: get back to it. So it was fun to be

845
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Speaker 6: a part of that with her.

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Speaker 2: What did you know about the Storm organization before you

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Speaker 2: even ran into Sonia or to Lisa or anything. What

848
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Speaker 2: was what stuck out in your mind about this organization

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Speaker 2: as a whole.

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Speaker 6: The thing that sticks out to me, honestly is that

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00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 6: the championship caliber organization that they are. You know, they've

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00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 6: won championships in the past, They've got a great leadership group,

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Speaker 6: and just from like ownership management, everything that I've heard

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Speaker 6: and everything that i've known, everything that I've watched over

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Speaker 6: the years has been high level and it's been elite.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 6: They're all about bringing in the right people. They're all

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00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 6: about character, and they're all about culture, and those are

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Speaker 6: all things that I align with and things that I've

860
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Speaker 6: always kind of, you know, wanted to look for at

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00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 6: an employer or a partner. In my last twelve thirteen

862
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Speaker 6: years of the NBA life, and you know, it just

863
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 6: seemed like a great partnership. So I'm just excited to

864
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 6: be a part of it. And again, we're all about

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Speaker 6: building a culture and you know, competing for championships at

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Speaker 6: the end of the day, and that's something that they've

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Speaker 6: been known for over the years.

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Speaker 2: Drell Christian joining us at brand New Storm Assistant. We've

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Speaker 2: got some some things in common. We're both kids of

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Speaker 2: school teachers. Both my mom and dad, just like yours,

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Speaker 2: were both basketball coaches. I'm not a professional basketball coach,

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Speaker 2: my high high school basketball coach. But how is your

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00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 2: upbringing kind of led you to becoming a coach, because

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Speaker 2: I certainly, you know, my two folks being teachers, my

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Speaker 2: dad was a coach. That certainly led me into that

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Speaker 2: kind of phase in my life.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, ironically, my father was participating in the

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00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 6: nineteen eighty Olympic Trials as a sprinter, and so he

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00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 6: is a high school track coach and Hall of Fame

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00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 6: track and sword runner at Asama Mater in college. And

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Speaker 6: my mother was a retired special education teacher in middle

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Speaker 6: school for over thirty years. And I never really thought

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Speaker 6: about it until you know, I had kids. But I

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Speaker 6: think for me getting into coaching, I probably attributed that

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Speaker 6: to my mother, to be honest with you, just because

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Speaker 6: I don't necessarily see it as coaching. I see it

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Speaker 6: more as teaching, you know, teaching the game of basketball,

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00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 6: teaching different philosophies, and just watching my mother, you know,

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00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 6: teach special education to thirty plus years and you know,

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Speaker 6: the time, the attention and energy and the effort that

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Speaker 6: each student requires in that field was something something special

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Speaker 6: to watching. Again, Like when I was growing up, I

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Speaker 6: never really thought about it in that way, but once

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Speaker 6: I got into parenthood and even coaching, like it made

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Speaker 6: me reflect on that time as as a middle school kid,

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Speaker 6: watching my mother go through all of that and put

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Speaker 6: up with those students, and like the love that her

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Speaker 6: students always came back, you know, and it's just the

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Speaker 6: appreciation that all of her students had for her, and

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Speaker 6: it was, you know, just a testament to you know,

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Speaker 6: her passion for what she was doing, but her passion

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Speaker 6: for helping people, you know, get to something bigger. And

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Speaker 6: I think that's the best part about coaching, is being

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Speaker 6: able to help your your athletes get to, you know,

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Speaker 6: whatever their goals or whatever their dreams may be.

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Speaker 2: Finally, this has got to be a really unique situation

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Speaker 2: for for any new coaching in this league because I mean, basically,

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Speaker 2: the league's on pause right now.

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Speaker 3: It's not on stop, but it's not on go. It's

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Speaker 3: it's just on pause.

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Speaker 2: And with all these you know I alluded to, you know,

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Speaker 2: most teams only having a small handful of players even

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Speaker 2: on their roster right now, and the CBA not signed.

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Speaker 3: What is what are you guys doing?

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Speaker 2: Like what is the coaching staff doing when you don't

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Speaker 2: know who's gonna be on your team and you really

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00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 2: don't know who's gonna be on the teams that you're

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Speaker 2: playing against, So it's tough to like advance scout or

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Speaker 2: use any film from last year.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think the good thing about our

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Speaker 6: staff is that, you know, it's the exception of Michael

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Speaker 6: Jordan and coach Sonya. You know, we haven't really worked

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Speaker 6: together before. So I think this is a great time

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Speaker 6: for us to kind of get to know one another

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Speaker 6: and just have you know, casual conversations without it always

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Speaker 6: being about basketball. I think one thing that you know

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Speaker 6: once you become a first time head coach, especially of

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Speaker 6: a professional team, you're going to have to rely on

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Speaker 6: your staff a lot. And one way you can rely

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Speaker 6: on them is if you actually know who they are

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Speaker 6: and a little bit about them, know, outside of basketball,

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Speaker 6: outside of the sport, get to know their families and

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Speaker 6: things that make them tick. And so that's really what

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Speaker 6: we're doing. We're just diving into learning as much about

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Speaker 6: each other and spending that time, whether it's through a

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Speaker 6: group chat or you know, hopping on a on a

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Speaker 6: video conference, is us trying to get to know one another.

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Speaker 6: And then of course, you know, us just talking about

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Speaker 6: different philosophies and different schemes that we think would be

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Speaker 6: beneficial with the player and the personnel that we do have.

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Speaker 6: And so I think one thing that's that's going to

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Speaker 6: be really exciting, especially I'm excited for Personia is you know,

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Speaker 6: it's going to be our first crack at it, you know,

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Speaker 6: in the W being a head coach, and so I'm

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Speaker 6: excited to kind of see her vision. I'm excited to

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Speaker 6: kind of help that vision come to light.

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Speaker 3: I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to talk to you, work with you

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Speaker 2: all summer long, and as we get the Storm basketball

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Speaker 2: season rolling, for twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us so much, Drell.

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Speaker 6: Awesome, Thank you, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Gonna be interesting to see if we actually start on time.

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Speaker 2: They've got a hard date coming up in the next

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Speaker 2: two weeks to get something moving, all right. Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio comes up next. To have a great weekend. I'll

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Speaker 2: be back with Jackson Bevans. I'll have Jackson and Jackson,

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Speaker 2: Jackson Felts and Jackson Bevans with me on one Monday,

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Speaker 2: three to seven on ninety three point three K