1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,359 Speaker 1: All right, Michael, welcome back from the holy land of Missoula, Montana. 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: Congratulations to your grandson, and I fully expect to hear 3 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: a go Grizz that'll view this morning because we're gonna 4 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: go beat the podcasts next week and go on to 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: the national championship in Nashfield, Tennessee. 6 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: Oh, go Griz. Okay, go grizz. Good. Good. 7 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 3: You know they they've obviously it's been a while since 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 3: I've been to Missoula, and they've remodeled the airport, dragging 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 3: them now four gates. We've got four gates in Missoula 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 3: in total total. Wow, No, I take that back. There 11 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 3: are four used gates. I think there are. There's a 12 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 3: like it's like an L shaped terminal, and I think 13 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 3: on the other end there are there may be four 14 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,639 Speaker 3: gates over there, but I don't think. I don't know 15 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 3: that they're used. They might be, but coming in or out, 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 3: only the four gates on one end were being used. 17 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 4: Okay, we're moving on up. Sooner or later they'll get 18 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 4: a stoplight. 19 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 3: The one thing it was the plane was two hours 20 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 3: late leaving, so we get in really late. 21 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 4: Which means you're sitting on the plane on the tarmac 22 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 4: here for two hours. 23 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 3: No, for about an hour, and they started announcing we 24 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: were sat in the gate area for a while. Then 25 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 3: they started announcing that we're delayed, but they kept lying 26 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 3: to us. United just tell us the truth, because those 27 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 3: of us who fly frequently enough know what's really going on. 28 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: And if even your app will show us where's my 29 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 3: plane coming from, so I can see that the plane 30 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 3: that is not where it's supposed to be. Has it 31 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 3: left Detroit or Chicago where it's leaving, it left yet, 32 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 3: and so I know it's still in the air. And 33 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 3: then I know that you're going to because this is 34 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 3: the last flight to Missoula. I know that you're going 35 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: to hold that flight to try to get as many 36 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: people that are missing would miss a connection, so you 37 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 3: don't have to pay for a hotel room or anything else. 38 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 3: So you're gonna leave us sitting there, So you put 39 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 3: us on the plane. Then you tell us, well, you 40 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 3: know we're gonna with the coffee pots. I mean literally, 41 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: at one point there's a problem with the coffee pot. 42 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 3: That's beautiful, and I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 43 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 3: just bring me some more wine or something. But I 44 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 3: know that's not the truth. But then we get to Missoula, 45 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 3: and the great thing is it is I mean, I 46 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 3: took a heavy coat, right because it's Montana, right, and 47 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: it's December. And I did check the weather, but I 48 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 3: didn't believe it. I get there and it's not snowing, 49 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 3: thank goodness. 50 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 2: It was pouring rain. Huh. 51 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 3: I mean rain, just I mean like a rain storm. 52 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 3: So I go to the I don't know why I 53 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 3: used Avus this time. I usually use Hurts, but I 54 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 3: used AVOs. They were cheaper or something. And I go 55 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 3: up the line and she tries to get me to 56 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,839 Speaker 3: take a a Prius or something, and I'm like, I don't, 57 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 3: I don't think, so give me something else. She goes, well, 58 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 3: I've got you know, I got some toyota. That's fine, 59 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 3: give me toyota. It's an E one. I say, okay, 60 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 3: where is it. She is right at that door, just 61 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 3: right to your right. I think, oh good, it's close 62 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: because it's raining. No no, no, no, no, you. 63 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: Have ab And then he is out there there, out there, 64 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 2: and then of. 65 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 3: Course I can't get the trunk to open. It's just 66 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 3: like and of course I have my favorite traveler with 67 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 3: me who you know. 68 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: Is like, why are we doing? Why don't I thought 69 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: you were some mucketymunk traveler. Why don't you why why 70 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 2: don't you have him bring the car to us? 71 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 4: You know kind of stuff. Can't you just say? Don't 72 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 4: you know who I am? 73 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: Well, exactly exactly. 74 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 3: So anyway, the grandson got graduated. I had a great 75 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 3: time talking to my son's professor, who is still there. 76 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: I never realized he was Ukrainian. His parents escaped Ukraine 77 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 3: after World War Two. We're going to go to Germany 78 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 3: and then try to They escaped to Germany and then 79 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 3: we're gonna try to move to Portugal. But they found 80 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: a sponsor and ended up in Ohio, uh on a farm. 81 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 3: But anyway, it was a great conversation. And he's now graduated, 82 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 3: and he's probably going. 83 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: To go to see you. I don't know, he'll go somewhere. 84 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 3: I want to cleanse the palette just a little bit, 85 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 3: because I'm certain that I don't think I heard a 86 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 3: little bit of it when I got into the studio 87 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: that I know that Gina and Ross talked a lot 88 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: about what went on in Australia, and I want to 89 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 3: delve into that in a minute, but we'll do that 90 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 3: maybe either probably next hour, but instead will cleanse the 91 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 3: palette by doing something that is not really cleansing, but 92 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 3: it's something that I came to my attention yesterday afternoon 93 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 3: late Douglas County. 94 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,239 Speaker 2: Now full disclosure. 95 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 3: When George Brockler, who is the current district attorney for 96 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 3: what is that the eighteenth judicial I forget what number 97 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: it is now they moved from rand. I think it's 98 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 3: still eighteen, but he is the district attorney for Douglas 99 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 3: County and are surrounding areas too think And I remember 100 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 3: because I was I was in Castle Rock having lunch 101 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 3: with a friend the other day and I ran into 102 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 3: George and said, I, but I you know, we didn't 103 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 3: have any conversation about anything going on politically. 104 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: I then heard. 105 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 3: On the news before I had left that the Douglas 106 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 3: County Commissioners, which cannot can let me just my full 107 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,559 Speaker 3: disclosure is I know George Brouckler, and I considered George 108 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 3: to be a friend. But I'm going to eviscerate George 109 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 3: during the segment. And I know I'm not giving them 110 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 3: ads up, but I have a real bugaboo about the 111 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 3: Douglas County, Colorado commissioners. 112 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: There are a bunch of yahoos. They're a bunch of idiots. 113 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: They are engaged in a lot of self dealing, in 114 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 3: my opinion, and I think that they are just They 115 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 3: represent everything wrong about the Republican Party. Every single thing 116 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 3: wrong about the Republican Party you will find in the 117 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 3: three commissioners represent doug County, where I live. They have 118 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 3: now adopted a retail theft ordinance because and I saw 119 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: George on television a couple of days ago talking about, 120 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 3: you know, shoplifting is not going to be tolerated in 121 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 3: Douglas County. Now that was good because George is a 122 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: law and order guy, and I would expect George to 123 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 3: prosecute shoplifters right, No more just walking out of Kings 124 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 3: Coopers or home Depot or Target or anywhere else with 125 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 3: a big basketful of stuff and get away with it. 126 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 3: So I'm all behind that. But that's not what they're 127 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 3: doing here. Oh my godness, so stupid. They've adopted a 128 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 3: retail theft ordinance that requires any business in unincorporated areas 129 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 3: to report shoplifting to law enforcement within ninety six hours 130 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 3: or face escalating civil fines. But they also mandate preservation 131 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 3: of evidence, and they prohibit corporate policies that discourage or 132 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: punish such reporting. Now, this is being driven by Republican 133 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 3: controlled county commissioners, the sheriff who's also a Republican, and 134 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 3: the DA George who is also a Republican. Now they 135 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 3: frame it as a crackdown on retail theft, but in 136 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 3: practice it shifts the compliance costs and the legal exposure 137 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 3: onto the crime victims themselves instead of focusing on the 138 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 3: people who actually do the shoplifting. Now we're going to 139 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 3: push unfunded mandates onto small businesses and big businesses. This 140 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 3: is so anti Republican, This is so anti liberty. This 141 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 3: is so anti freedom that am I shocked to know 142 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: because the dumbassy that goes on in Colorado now is 143 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 3: bleeding over injured Republicans too. Now, under the ordinance, any 144 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 3: business in unincorporated Douglas County that has quote reasonable grounds 145 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 3: that's the language, reasonable ground to believe that a theft 146 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 3: has occurred on its property is required by law to 147 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 3: report that incidental law enforcement within ninety six hours of 148 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 3: becoming aware of it. Of course, my lawyer brain right, 149 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 3: now says, huh, I just wasn't aware of it. I 150 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 3: mean and truthfully think about this. So let's say that 151 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 3: you own a home depot in an unincorporated Douglas County. 152 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 3: Somebody comes in and steals a hammer, and not until 153 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 3: you do inventory, say two weeks later or a month later, 154 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: do you realize, oh, we've got a hammer we can't 155 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 3: account for. Well, now you're outside the required ninety six hours, 156 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 3: except you're now required a month later, within ninety six 157 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 3: hours of having done your inventory, to now report that. 158 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: Now that duty, that duty that's now on the business 159 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 3: owner applies to thefts of any value. 160 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 2: So let's forget the hammer. You still a screw at a. 161 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 3: Home depot, meaning they're is no minimum dollar threshold. Petty 162 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 3: shoplifting and high dollar organized retail crime are treated exactly 163 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 3: the same for these reporting purposes. 164 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: Now, if a business does not report. 165 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 3: Within the ninety six hour window, there is instantly a 166 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 3: civil penalty of fifty dollars for every additional twenty four 167 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 3: hours that passes, capped at a maximum fine of one 168 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 3: thousand dollars per incident. The sheriff is responsible for enforcement. 169 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 3: But I would ask the sheriff right now, how are 170 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 3: you going to enforce this? It's an unenforceable law that 171 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 3: comes with unfunded mandates. The sheriff responsible for enforcement and 172 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 3: violations can be prosecuted by either the DA or the 173 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: county attorney, and giving the county multiple avenues to pursue 174 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 3: penalties against businesses that fail to comply with this dumbass ordinance. Now, 175 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 3: the ordinance also requires now think about this, these are 176 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 3: our business requirements. We're not focused on the shoplifter. We're 177 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 3: putting requirements on the business. It requires the business to 178 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 3: preserve and provide any photo or video evidence related to 179 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 3: reported theft, effectively conscripting in store surveillance systems into this 180 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 3: kind of quasi regulatory function. And corporations cannot adopt policies 181 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 3: that prevent employees from reporting theft or that retaliate against 182 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 3: an employee who cooperates with law enforcement. County officials say 183 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 3: their objective is to force large chains to change internal 184 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 3: policies that they view as soft on shoplifting. So now 185 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 3: we have shifted law enforcement from law enforcement to the businesses. 186 00:10:55,440 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: How's that liberty orient How's that freedom orient? If I choose, 187 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 3: if I run a business and I see somebody that 188 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 3: that steals something and it's a hammer. The I run 189 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 3: a home depot somewhere in incorporated Douglas County, and I see, 190 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 3: I see someone steal a hammer, and I don't want, 191 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 3: you know, And maybe they're maybe it looks like they're packing, 192 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 3: Maybe it looks like they're concealed caring. Maybe it looks 193 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 3: like they're, you know, part of an organized cartel gang 194 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 3: or something. And I choose, you know what, that's the 195 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 3: cost of doing business. So I'm gonna let the hammer go. No, 196 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 3: now you're in trouble. Now you're in trouble. But tell 197 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 3: me how is that going to be enforced? The county 198 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: leaders insist, Oh, the goal is not to punish businesses, 199 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 3: but the structure of the ordnance places new legal obligations, 200 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 3: compliance risks, and the operational costs to carry out this 201 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 3: ordinance squarely on retailers and doesn't provide any funding, any staff, 202 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: or any liability protection. Now, I want to list several 203 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 3: specific features that function as penalties and unfunded mandates on 204 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 3: the crime victims, because who's the victim here. It's not 205 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 3: the shoplifter, it's the business that has been shoplifted. So 206 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 3: let me think I've got one, two, three, four, five. 207 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 3: I've got five different items here, let's walk through them. First, 208 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 3: there's mandatory reporting for every theft, regardless of value. Now 209 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:30,479 Speaker 3: think about that. Because the Ordnance reaches theft of any value, 210 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 3: that means that small businesses that previously would absorb a 211 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 3: very low dollar loss to avoid the hassle must now 212 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 3: interact with law enforcement and the county court systems and 213 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 3: law enforcement systems for even trivial incidents, or they're going 214 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 3: to risk a fine. That turns every minor shoplifting event 215 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 3: into a regulatory compliance task. That is excuse me, that 216 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 3: is imposed on the business in this case is the victim. 217 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 3: So we're punishing their victim who's making their own business 218 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 3: decision that it's not worth it. Well, now they've made 219 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 3: it worth it, because if you don't, now you face fines. 220 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 3: These dumb ass commissioners I truly despise them. They're not 221 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 3: business oriented. Oh all in the name of law enforcement. Look, yes, George, 222 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 3: I get that you want to enforce shoplifting laws, but 223 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 3: you don't do that by requiring businesses to become your 224 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 3: enforcement arm. Second, there's a time bound reporting that comes 225 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 3: with automatic fines. That this ninety six hour deadline, followed 226 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 3: by a meter fine of fifty dollars per twenty four 227 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 3: hours up to one thousand dollars, means that if you 228 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: just make a mistake in internal communication, or you've got 229 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 3: a staffing shortage, or you've got confusion about what constitutes 230 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 3: so called reasonable grounds, that can directly cost a victimized 231 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 3: business owner really hard dollars. And at a time when 232 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 3: many businesses are operating on incredibly thin margins, do you 233 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 3: really want to face a thousand dollars fine? 234 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: Do you really? 235 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,599 Speaker 3: And by the way, I still get by, and I 236 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 3: still want to focus on you've taken a choice away 237 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 3: from the business owner, and I want to ask the 238 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 3: question again, They shriff, how are you going to enforce this? 239 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 3: Are you going to start doing inspections, you start asking 240 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 3: for inventories? 241 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: What are you going to do? 242 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, this is so stupid. There is no 243 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 3: single parallel provision that obligates the county. In other words, you, 244 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 3: as a business owner, you must respond within that ninety 245 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 3: six hours. But there's no parallel provision in this ordinance 246 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 3: that obligates the county to respond within us set time. 247 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 3: So the only party that is financially punished for a 248 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 3: delay is the business. Once you report it, Oh, the 249 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 3: Douglas County Sheriff's office can just take their time. They 250 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 3: can just or they can you know, some deputy sheriffs busy. 251 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 3: He's busy doing a bunch of other stuff. So I'll 252 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 3: just put this in the bottom my pile. And now 253 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 3: you have no time limit. In fact, you might even 254 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 3: let the statute limitations expire. These are republicans. Tell me 255 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 3: how these are republicans. Here's the third point. I would 256 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 3: make evidence preservation and production burdens. So these businesses have 257 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 3: to not only report, but also preserve and share video 258 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 3: or any photographic evidence, which is going to require personnel, time, 259 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 3: storage capacity, and probably they're going to have to upgrade 260 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 3: their systems and get vendor support in order to be 261 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 3: able to do that. The ordinance provides zero funding. There 262 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 3: are no tax credits or anything to cover those costs. 263 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 3: So what they've done is they have effectively conscripted private 264 00:15:53,360 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 3: businesses private infrastructure as an investigative arm at the an 265 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 3: investigative arm of the state, at the business's expense. So 266 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 3: the victim here, the businesses that got shoplifted. We've shifted 267 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 3: those costs onto them. So now they have the cost 268 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 3: of the shoplifting, and now they have the cost of 269 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 3: complying with this ordinance. Republicans, what a freaking joke, Michael. 270 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 5: It's cool that you're in Missoula, but I have a 271 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 5: correction to make, the correction of the previous talk, Baker, 272 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 5: the batcasts are going. 273 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:34,359 Speaker 2: To whoop up on the Grizzlies. 274 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, Billcat fight fight fight, fight, fight, fight, Right, let's 275 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 3: get the goobers fighting among themselves on two out of 276 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 3: state teams that are a thousand miles away. 277 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 4: Michael, I'm I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry. 278 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 2: You're confused, aren't you. Well? 279 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 4: I was trying not to pay attention, right because it's you. 280 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 4: Why would I right? But I thought I overheard. 281 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: Yes, you missed. 282 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 4: This sounds absolutely crazy, so I must I must be wrong. 283 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm sure you are, but try anyway. 284 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 4: So a business gets something stolen front of them, Yes, Now, 285 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 4: if they don't report it to the police within ninety 286 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 4: six hours of knowing about it, the business is the 287 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 4: one that gets fine. 288 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 2: Yes, you got it, you got it. 289 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 4: This can't no no, And these are. 290 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 2: Republicans that did this. 291 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 3: A Republican county commission, three Republican county commissioners, a Republican sheriff, 292 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 3: and a Republican district get thirty. 293 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 4: So that was the first thing that I really thought 294 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 4: that I must have misheard because I was trying not 295 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 4: to pay attention to you. 296 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 2: But I understand, I understand. 297 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 4: But then the second thing, and I'm not sure if 298 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 4: you quite got to it here, because again I'm not 299 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 4: paying attention. How on earth do they plan on enforcing this? 300 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 4: So they're gonna go your officers are going to go 301 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 4: door to door going, excuse me, well, business, did you 302 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 4: get stolen from this week? 303 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 3: Well I haven't gotten to that yet, but we have 304 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,719 Speaker 3: a goober out there that's already answered that question for us, 305 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 3: so goober number. In fact, I'm not going to give 306 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 3: out his goober number because he says as a LEO 307 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 3: law enforcement officer in Douglas County, so I don't know 308 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 3: whether he's like a cop or a deputy sheriff. So 309 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 3: I'm not going to give out his number just to 310 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 3: protect the innocent. But he writes in Douglas County, Well, 311 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 3: we heard about this in a briefing last week. My 312 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 3: response was, STFU, Now is. 313 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 4: That shut the up? 314 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 3: Oh that's what that means. 315 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 2: That's what I. 316 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 3: Meant, sitting trying to figure like, oh that's pretty good. 317 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but so shut the f up. STFU. My 318 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 3: response was, and I can just see a cop saying 319 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 3: there brief on this going. My response was, STF, you, 320 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 3: how are we the radiator pusher is going to enforce this? 321 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 3: And how is this constitutional? Well, that's what I'd like 322 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 3: to know too. How are you going to enforce it? 323 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 4: You don't have enough officers to actually take care of 324 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 4: the crime, but you're going to spend time, possibly sending 325 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 4: them door to door of every business in the county 326 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 4: and go, hey, were you burgled sometime this month? Did 327 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 4: somebody thievery from you? 328 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 2: Or this one? 329 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 4: What? 330 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 5: Uh? 331 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 3: Thirty Juber number thirty five to fourteen, Mike. I've been 332 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 3: in retail loss prevention for forty years. Retailers don't call 333 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 3: the popo because the popo don't show up. But now 334 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 3: the popo are going to show up, and I'm mister 335 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 3: business owner. Did you any thefts this week? M Well, 336 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 3: we think you did because somebody, you know, some citizen 337 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 3: reported it and you didn't tell us about it, and 338 00:19:58,960 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 3: there's been ninety six. 339 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 4: And here's your fine, and here's your fine. 340 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 2: Oh so I went. 341 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 3: Here's where I'm trying to describe you how this penalizes 342 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 3: the businesses and it acts as an unfunded mandate. So 343 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 3: I've given you three of them mandatory reporting for every 344 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 3: theft regard us the value. By the way, somebody of 345 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 3: the text lines said, what about the five year old 346 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 3: kid that you know steals candy and mom and dad 347 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 3: used to make them go back and apologize to the 348 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 3: manager and return the candy. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 349 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 3: nowhere we're going to go after that. 350 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 4: As the subway franchise that we had as a family, 351 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 4: we would give out water cups for the soda fountains and. 352 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 2: The people would people fill it with diet. 353 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 4: Odd has happened? 354 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 2: Huh shocked? 355 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 3: You see, it's way you know I've been I've been 356 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 3: celebrating my grandson's graduation, and you know, I got back 357 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 3: and it was kind of nice yesterday, took the dogs 358 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 3: on a nice walk, and now I come in and 359 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 3: days just kind of ruined. It's just kind of ruined already. 360 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 4: Weird for that water cup thing, we were a couple 361 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 4: of blocks away from high school. It was most often minors. 362 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 2: Weird, weird, so very weird. Yeah, okay whatever. 363 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, well your mom would have been five every week, 364 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 3: every single week. 365 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 4: So you also, is it is it a fine per 366 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 4: incident or is it just. 367 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 2: No, it's an escalating fine. So yes, it would be 368 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 2: per incident. 369 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 4: So yeah, if we had three kids come in and 370 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 4: steal soda for that week, then it would be one 371 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 4: thousand dollars, be up. 372 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 3: To one thousand dollars for each one if you don't 373 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 3: do it within ninety six hours of learning about it. 374 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. That sounds great. 375 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, so for that, for that dollars seventy nine drink, 376 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 3: you're gonna end up being one thousand dollars fine. 377 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 2: So you got. 378 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 3: Mandatory reporting for every single theft, regardless of the value. 379 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 3: You're time bound. You have time bound reporting with automatic fines, 380 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 3: automatic fines. Then you have every the requirement of evidence 381 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 3: preservation and produce seeing the evidence you got. That burden 382 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 3: now shifted over to the business. And then you have 383 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 3: these last two policy and human resources constraints are now 384 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 3: imposed by the county on these. 385 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 2: Small businesses or big businesses. 386 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 3: Because by banning corporate policies that discourage reporting or that 387 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 3: may be read as retaliation, you know, when managers exercise 388 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 3: their discretion, the county is inserting itself into the internal 389 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 3: risk management and the HR policies without offering any legal indemnification. 390 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 3: So you decide that you just don't want to you 391 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 3: you don't want to report thefts, and you don't want 392 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 3: you We've heard the stories where somebody got fired because 393 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 3: somebody was stealing something and so they chased down the 394 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 3: perp and then they got fired for trying to do that. 395 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 3: And I've always thought, I've always thought that, hey, I 396 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 3: understand the rational for that policy, although I don't like 397 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 3: people getting fired for simply trying to protect your business 398 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 3: for you. But now there's no legal indemnification. In other words, 399 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 3: the company's going to be held responsible for any wrongful 400 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 3: termination or anything else based on this stupid ordinance. Then 401 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 3: you've got this one sided implementation of an old state law. 402 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 3: County officials explicitly invoked a nineteen seventy nine state statue 403 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 3: that requires individuals and corporations who reasonably believe a crime 404 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 3: has occurred to promptly report it. Okay, but they are 405 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 3: only attaching new localized penalties to the private side of 406 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 3: that obligation. The county does not impose any parallel, specific 407 00:23:54,840 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 3: penalty structures on itself for failure to investigate or failure 408 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 3: to prosecute theft. So you've now made the implementation a 409 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 3: symmetric impunitive toward the victim the business, rather than the offenders. 410 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 3: So in effect, the ordinance uses the threat of county 411 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 3: fines to force businesses, many of them already operating on 412 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 3: ten margins as I said earlier, to now spend more 413 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 3: money in labor on compliance, paperwork and evidence handling with 414 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 3: no county reimbursement. And there's no guarantee, no guarantee that 415 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 3: this reporting will actually reduce crime. I think it will 416 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 3: have zero effect on crime whatsoever. I think all we'll 417 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 3: do is impose an unfunded mandate by a bunch of Republicans. 418 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 3: Oooh idiots in Douglas County. You know, a county commission 419 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 3: that campaigns on limited government, property rights and liberty has 420 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 3: now decided that, oh, you know what, the best way 421 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 3: to fight crime is to regulate the victims instead of 422 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 3: the perpetrators. In Douglas County's new ordinance. Shoplifters don't face 423 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 3: any new statutory burdens at all. The people who do, 424 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: all the retailers whose property is being stolen, who now 425 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 3: face the fines from their own supposedly pro business county government, 426 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 3: if they failed to navigate this four day reporting clock 427 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 3: and evidence handling regime just perfectly. 428 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 2: This is the essence of the nanny state. 429 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 5: Good morning, Michael and Dragon. I just happened to tune 430 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 5: in mid tirade. This ordinance sounds ridiculous. Just did a 431 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 5: little reading about it. You know, would it have ever 432 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 5: gotten to this point if your community would not have 433 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 5: stopped prosecuting petty crime? 434 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 4: I doubt it. 435 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: So. 436 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 5: Now instead of prosecuting petty criminals, we're going to find 437 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 5: business owners. 438 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 3: Makes sense, Yeah, par thinking when you consider that's say, 439 00:25:55,200 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 3: so called conservative county commissioners and a conservative attorney. Come on, George. 440 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 3: I'm so disappointed George Brockler in terms of Teal and 441 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 3: van Winkel and the others. I just thought, I don't 442 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 3: give a hoot about him. I think they're a bunch 443 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 3: of losers anyway. Goober twelve thirty one, Michael Dudness, County 444 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 3: businesses just need to Bury law enforcement with shoplifting claims. 445 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 3: Walmart alone could swamp in with every found empty package 446 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 3: and snitched grape. 447 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 2: Yes, do that, we do that. 448 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 3: Now they're trying to defend this same we're just implementing 449 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 3: a nineteen seventy nine state reporting law, as if that 450 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 3: makes everything magically concerned the un constitutional. But adding the 451 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 3: localized fine structure compliance obligation hr policy dictates on top 452 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 3: of an old, dusty statue. That's not neutral implementation. That 453 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 3: is a regulatory expansion that is anti business, and it's 454 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 3: Republicans not being liberty friendly simply because they talk tough 455 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 3: on crime at press conferences. It reveals a deeper problem, 456 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 3: a reflex to grab more power over private conduct whenever 457 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 3: headlines demand that, oh, something be done, even when that's 458 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 3: something means what you're doing is you're punishing the innocent 459 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 3: for the actions of. 460 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: The guilty, which is exactly what they're doing here. 461 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 3: What makes this particularly galling, in my opinion, is that 462 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 3: comes from a Republican controlled county commission that tries to 463 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 3: market themselves as a bulwark against Denver style overreach and 464 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 3: Colorado state level regulatory access. Yet what are they doing here? 465 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 3: They're creating a new class of regulatory offense. That's a 466 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 3: not at the criminals, but if the companies that fail 467 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 3: to call the government fast enough after being robbed or 468 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 3: stolen from While dressing it up in the rhetoric of 469 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 3: it's a partnership, you can take your partnership and shove 470 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 3: it somewhere. As far as I'm concerned, a partnership and 471 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 3: community safety does not mean trading the tyranny of the 472 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 3: shoplifter for the soft tyranny of the compliance officer at 473 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 3: you know, the county sheriff's office. It means a government 474 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 3: that's focused on punishing those who break the law, not 475 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 3: those whose only crime is being tired of the law breaking. 476 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 3: Oh and to claim them to themselves to be you know, 477 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 3: Douglas County is there's just enough seepage I think between 478 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 3: the dumbastery that goes on in the surrounding counties in 479 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 3: Denver or rapa Hoe even down even down in al 480 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 3: Paso County, it's just it's seeping into Douglas County. 481 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 2: It absolutely boggles my mind that they're doing this. And 482 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 2: while yes, I. 483 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 3: Consider George Brockler to be a friend, this is way 484 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 3: over stepping his bounds, way over stepping the bounds. This 485 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 3: is a nanty state in Republican clothing, and you're just 486 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 3: shifting the burden from law enforcement. You know, if a 487 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 3: business somebody raised the question, are there any crimes that 488 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 3: require reporting? Well, we know of many women that don't 489 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 3: report rapes. I suppose if you got mugged somewhere, you know, 490 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 3: walking down Broadway, or for that matter, walking down Castle 491 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 3: you know, Main Street and Castle Rock, and you get mugged, 492 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 3: and you just don't want to deal with the hassle 493 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 3: because all they really did is they just tried to 494 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 3: get your purse, but they didn't, you know, maybe they 495 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 3: knocked you to the ground. No requirement to report that. 496 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 3: But now somebody walks into a business and business in 497 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 3: unincorporated Douglas County and to your point, they steal a 498 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 3: little cart and a juice or something. 499 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 2: Oh, you don't report that. You could face a line 500 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 2: up to a thousand bucks. 501 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 3: You may think that just because somebody wears the Republican 502 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 3: moniker after their name, if they're liberty focused, if they're 503 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 3: AREATAM focused, they are not. And Douglas County represents the 504 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 3: very worst of government overreach and that's really saying something 505 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 3: considering that where I'm sitting right now broadcasting is in 506 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 3: the middle of one of the most communist counties in 507 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 3: the entire country city and County of Denver, Colorado, Douglas County, 508 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 3: do better shut up and sit down.