1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Okay, Wednesday seven, twenty ish. You know what that means? 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 2: Truth or troll? Take it away, Mike. 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: And now America's favorite game show where you get to 4 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: decide on the Kooner Report. 5 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: This is truth or Tall. Today's entry for truth ortrol 6 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: comes from President Trump during his speech in Iowa yesterday, 7 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 2: when he hints at running for a president for president 8 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 2: for a possible fourth time after a rigged election. We 9 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 2: had a rigged election. 10 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 3: I said, do we do it again? 11 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: And I said, I think we'd better do it again. 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 4: Not too many people who would have said that. 13 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: But we did so well the second time. 14 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 5: I said, well, we won twice. 15 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 6: We got to do it a third time? 16 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: Should we do it a fourth time? That fourth four victory, 17 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 2: poor victory. We got the right team of it is 18 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: the right team over there. So for a fourth time, 19 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: he's in to get running again. Is he telling the 20 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 2: truth or is he just trolling you? No, he's trolling. 21 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 2: He's obviously trolling. 22 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: He's going to be eighty two years old, you know, 23 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: God willing if he you know, is you know, is 24 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: you know and healthy and you know you know finishes 25 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: his you know, his term in twenty twenty eight, he's trolling. 26 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: He knows the Libs go on about him being a 27 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: dictator and hitler and a fascist, and he's a king. 28 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 2: He's a king. 29 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: So he's just needling them, and they go for the 30 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: bait every time, every single time. So no, do I 31 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: think he wants to run for a He can't, he's 32 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: constitutionally prohibited. And really, I think, you know, he's he's 33 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: you know, he's he's he's eighty, he's going to be 34 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: eighty two when everything is said and done. 35 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: He wants to pass the baton off to JD. Vance. 36 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: So I think he's just clearly trolling. I think it's 37 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: very funny. Honestly, I think it's extremely effective. You can 38 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: tell the crowd loves it. I love it. You know, 39 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: I'm not even there and I love it. So to me, 40 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 1: I think he's clearly trolling. But I want to ask 41 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: the audience, what do you make of Trump saying he 42 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: wants to run again his fourth election, he wants to 43 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: run for a third term. Is he a telling the truth? 44 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: B trolling and having a little bit of fun at 45 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: the Democrats and liberals expense? I want to hear from you. 46 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: You can vote on our web page WRKO dot com 47 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: slash cooner wrko dot com slash cooner k U h 48 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: n E R And as always, you can also vote 49 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: on x my handle. 50 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 2: There all one word at the. 51 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: Kooner Report k U H And as a national er, Jeff, 52 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: why do you always spell your last name? Because even 53 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: to this day people still misspell it. I swear to you. 54 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: I get so many different combinations, it's incredible. So that's 55 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: why I got to keep spelling it. Lou in Rhode Island, 56 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: Thanks for holding Lou and welcome. 57 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 7: Hey you're doing Jeff. That control. 58 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: That's fine and hilarious. Honestly, you know, I gotta say this. 59 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: If he ever wanted to, you know, once he's done 60 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: as president, become a stand up comedian, he would pack 61 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: the house. He is very Trump is naturally very very funny. 62 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: He really is. 63 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: But anyway, I digress. Please go ahead, Lou. 64 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 7: A couple a couple of things before I get this, 65 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 7: some of my main points. But there used to be 66 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 7: a rushbody used to have theme songs for people, and 67 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 7: there's used to be a song. It's not a song, actually, 68 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 7: it's an instrumental by the Ventures called Pipeline, and that 69 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 7: should be Maura Healey's theme song, pipeline you should be 70 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 7: known as Mara p Heally, Mara Pipeline Heally. And that's 71 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 7: for keeping the pipeline in right, they were going to 72 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 7: lower it immensely. And not only that. Let me just 73 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 7: really quickly before in a couple other points that Rhode Island. 74 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 7: They had the head of the Rherelan Energy on a 75 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 7: radio show recently. Fifteen to twenty percent of our bill 76 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 7: goes to subsidize this green energy stuff as subsidies. You know, 77 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 7: they have to pay for the windmills and all that stuff, 78 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 7: and the soul or whatever, and so it's ridiculous. That's 79 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 7: a huge part of our bill. And the fact that 80 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 7: we have to transport all the energy in is even 81 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 7: a bigger part of the bill because we don't have 82 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 7: a pipeline, we're not using nuclear and all that kind 83 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 7: of stuff. And I'm telling you what's missing in this 84 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 7: whole thing. Let me just start with what's missing in 85 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 7: this whole thing is that there is no global crisis 86 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 7: as long as China and India are still are using 87 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 7: fossil fuels to the degree that they are, and coal 88 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 7: and and and and oil and all this other energy. 89 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 7: They're the biggest polluters in the in the world that 90 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 7: if you put those two together, and and how much 91 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 7: are you supposed you to ask more? Heliu and even 92 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 7: the governor of Rhode Island. Uh, you know how much 93 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 7: is Massachusetts and Rhode Island lowering the global temperature and 94 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 7: by their their draggonian plans? And I also have to wait, guys, 95 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 7: I have to disagree with you on one thing you 96 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 7: said before I had this written down, you said it 97 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 7: won't happen overnight. Uh. You know, you said they're going 98 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 7: to do a drug gradually O contraire o country. Did 99 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 7: you see what's happening in Virginia since they're they since 100 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 7: this governor was sworn in, they've gone full Mondami overnight. 101 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: Oh no, you're right. 102 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: I mean they're going to push their radical policies overnight. 103 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: I agree with you on that loop. Okay, I want 104 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,559 Speaker 1: to ask all of you. You've got obviously the huge 105 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: snowstorm that just hit us a couple days ago. We're 106 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: still digging our way out of that. Potentially another northeaster 107 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: this weekend apparently on Sunday. Now they're not sure if 108 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: it's going to hit us or not. But fingers crossed, 109 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: I hope it doesn't. It's cold, it's very cold people. 110 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: Some people say they're losing power or they're not able 111 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: to pay for their heating bills very expensive. Heally now 112 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: wants to give a temporary reduction ten percent gas bills 113 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: for two months, twenty five percent electric bills for two months. 114 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: Are you paying more or less for your gas, electric 115 00:06:54,279 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: and utility bills? Say, compared to last year or two 116 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: years ago? In other words, when you compare how much 117 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: you pay now compared to under Biden? Are you paying 118 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: more or are you paying less? That's number one? Number two? 119 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: Am I the only one? My utility bills through the roof. 120 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: I'm paying a lot more now than I was last year. 121 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: And I read you that story about. 122 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: A homeowner, a new homeowner. 123 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: In Oxford, Massachusetts, and who bought a townhouse, didn't even 124 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: move in yet, didn't plug in a single appliance, kept 125 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: the heat at an absolute bare minimum so the pipes 126 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: wouldn't freeze. And his first utility bill is one two 127 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars. As I like to say, blank you, okay, 128 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: right on the chin, blank you. And he's saying, I 129 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: can't afford this, like I just I can't you add 130 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: the the mortgage, you had, food, you ad, cost of living, 131 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: you had insurance. He goes, I might as well leave Massachusetts. 132 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: I can't keep up with this. And there's a lot 133 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: of middle working class people that are saying now Massachusetts 134 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: has just become too unaffordable, too expensive. Agree, disagree. Tell 135 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: me about your situation. Are you paying too much for utilities? 136 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: And is the cost now getting so high that you're 137 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: thinking of leaving the state? Catherine in Boston, Thanks for 138 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: holding Catherine. 139 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 2: And welcome. 140 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 4: It's Catherine right Tally. I'm obviously paying more. I think 141 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 4: everybody's paying more. What I'm a little confused about is 142 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 4: one of your last callers that you're talking with is 143 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 4: talking about how the AI data centers are a good thing, 144 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 4: like they'll create jobs or whatever. But the data centers 145 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 4: are the problem. Massachusetts has fifty nine data centers, and 146 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 4: these data centers have anywhere from tens of thousands to 147 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 4: some even have over a million servers in these massive 148 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 4: buildings that are running twenty four to seven to power 149 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 4: all of these AI programs. And that's a huge infrastructure 150 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 4: that needs to be built and maintained by the electric company. 151 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 4: So who has to pay for that? The customers have 152 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 4: to pay for that. And I mean, there's a data 153 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 4: center in Northborough, which is twenty five minutes away from 154 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 4: this guy's house in Oxford, and that's what he's paying for. 155 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 4: There's data centers everywhere in Massachusetts. So I don't know 156 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 4: why we're talking like there are none here. We have 157 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 4: a bunch of them. And that's the problem. We're powering 158 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 4: these servers. 159 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: Oh, there's no question they're putting a tremendous strain on 160 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: the grid, there's no it's we're talking about power usage 161 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: now that we never thought imaginable even ten, fifteen, twenty 162 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: years ago. And that's why you combine that with this 163 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: push for solar and wind and battery power, the cost 164 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: is going to I mean, it's going to bankrupt us. 165 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 2: You know. 166 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: You you have to go to nuclear power, you have 167 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: to go to oil and natural gas, you have to 168 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: go to you know, quote unquote fossil fuels. 169 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: This you have to You can't have both, you just 170 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 2: you can't. 171 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: And Catherine, look on top of the AI data centers, 172 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: because look, I'm not a big fan of those for 173 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: many reasons. A lot of the jobs that are created 174 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: are h one B jobs which go to foreigners. They 175 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: don't go to Americans. Okay, so I have a problem 176 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: with that as well. So please don't think that I'm, 177 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: you know, a big fan of AI data centers. 178 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 2: I'm not. 179 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's a reality. You know, they're they're 180 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: pouring investment into AI. It's happening not just in mass 181 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: It's happening in Florida and states all across the country, 182 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: So you know, it is what it is. My question 183 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: to you is you look at now taxes. How much 184 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: money now is being siphoned off and diverted towards illegal 185 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: aliens five billion under heally and counting. You look at 186 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: now these skyrocketing utilities costs, energy costs, the cost of rent, 187 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: the cost if you want to buy a home, the 188 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: cost of housing here. Look, really, I don't live in 189 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: a you know, I live in a nice house. It's okay, 190 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: it's not worth eight hundred, nine hundred thousand dollars, which 191 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: is what people tell me it. Can you know now 192 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: worth on the market. I bought it for barely five 193 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: hundred it's practically doubled in value. I'm telling you it's 194 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: it's not an eight nine hundred thousand dollars house. It's 195 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: not even close. It's insane. So and let's say I 196 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 1: sell it, Okay, Well, I got to buy a house 197 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: that's going to cost as much anyway. So I don't know, 198 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: especially young people, I don't know if they can ever 199 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: achieve the American dream. It's so hard now to buy 200 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: a home a rent three thousand dollars a month. Who 201 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: can pay that? And you know you got the cost 202 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: of food, You've got the cost of insurance. I mean, 203 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: you know better than I do with the mismanagement under 204 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: the Democrats and Catherine Vite. Look, Katherine, you're a warrior 205 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: in the Republican Party. I'm a big fan of yours. 206 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: To me the heart and soul of the mass GOP. 207 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: We need people like you, if forever, to retake this 208 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: state back. Where is the Republican Party, the mass GOP? 209 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: Why can't they capitalize on these affordability, cost of living 210 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: issues that are to put Elizabeth Warren's phrase hammering the 211 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: middle and working class. I've got to ask you where 212 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: are the Massachusetts Republicans? Because I don't see they're nowhere 213 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: and just a final point that I want to go 214 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: to you. I mentioned this on X last night. Take 215 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: it to the bank impeccable sources. Trust me, you know, 216 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: I mean literally, you put the house on it. The 217 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: Massachusetts Republican Party is now nearly bankrupt. They're practically bankrupt. 218 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: They have no money. And this is a key reason. 219 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 1: Not the only one, but a key reason is the 220 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: mass GOP chair Amy Carnavalley. Her leadership, her tenure has 221 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: been an absolute disaster. She can't raise cash and so 222 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: now we've got one of the most important gubernatorial elections 223 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: in the history of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. We cannot 224 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 1: allow Healey to have another term. She is going to 225 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: destroy this state and bury the middle and working class. 226 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: And yet there's no money, so we can't run an 227 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: effective campaign against her. And by the way, I warned 228 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 1: everybody about Carnivalley and the people who supported her. They 229 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: have to be held accountable for this, because what did 230 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: they say, she'son. 231 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: Winner the cap sign up should win a winner. 232 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: Most Democrats are gonna go uncontested. They're not even gonna 233 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: be challenged for state House and State Senate races. And 234 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna there's nothing in the war chest to be 235 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: able to go up against Healy. And by the way, 236 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: this woman is a lobbyist, and they said the reason 237 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: why they had the parachuter in was because she could 238 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: deal with donors and bring in cash. There's no cash. 239 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: So my question to you, Catherine is where is the 240 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: Massachusetts Republican Party and are they now about to blow 241 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: one of the most winnable important elections in our lifetime? 242 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 4: Say you, Jeff, I've been asking that same question for 243 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 4: the better part of the past six years. Where is 244 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 4: the mass GOP? And they're essentially non existent. Their goal 245 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 4: is to maintain the status quo of keeping the Democrats 246 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 4: in power in Massachusetts. And we absolutely are going to 247 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 4: blow twenty twenty six because we have three Republican candidates 248 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 4: for a governor that have declared their candidacy so far, 249 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 4: and they're all weak. I haven't found anything good. I've 250 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 4: actually found many bad qualities of all three of them. 251 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 4: And we don't ever put up any candidates that are 252 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 4: willing to tell the truth. We put up candidates that 253 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 4: are weak. We put up candidates that are too scared 254 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 4: to go too far right. We put up candidates who 255 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 4: try to play it safe and try to play the 256 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 4: game of politics and try to appeal to the Democrats. 257 00:15:54,320 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: And you nailed it, Catherine, You nailed it, and they're 258 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: doing it again. Jeff Cooner, Boston's bulldozer. Six one seven 259 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: two six, six sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay, 260 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: I want to ask you compared to last winter, just curious. 261 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: Are your heating costs, your bills, your utilities, gas bills, 262 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: electric bills. 263 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: Higher or lower? Number one? Number two? 264 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: Your cost of living overall, food, rent, mortgage payments, not 265 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: just utilities. Throw that in as well, everything included. Is 266 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: it getting better or worse? And is it getting so 267 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: bad here in Massachusetts? Are you now, like many thinking 268 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: of potentially leaving has more healy and have the have healy? 269 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: And the Democrats by waging war on the middle and 270 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: working class? Are are they now on the verge of 271 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: driving you out of this state? Six two six six 272 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Matt on the 273 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: north Shore. Thanks for holding Matt, and welcome. 274 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 3: Can you hear me? 275 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 2: I can hear you loud and clear? Go ahead, Matt. 276 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 3: I just wanted to share my experience. I live in 277 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 3: the North Shore. I got electric heat and have have 278 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 3: been that way for thirty six years. A lot of 279 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 3: the people that have brought up issues that I that 280 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 3: I wanted to talk about, like the politicians. I haven't 281 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 3: heard one of the the governor candidates that are out 282 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 3: there talk anything about power but our bill. I feel 283 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 3: lucky after listening to these people. Electric heat in my house. 284 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 3: It's my bill is one thousand dollars, but half of 285 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 3: that is delivery charges. My wife was just reading them 286 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 3: off to me. There's more damn delivery charges on there 287 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 3: than there are for electricity. It's more than half the build. 288 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 3: But when I moved into the house, I was going 289 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 3: to convert to oil heat, and my father Will said 290 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 3: to me, what's the return on investment? How fast you 291 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 3: pay that back? And I believe it or not. I 292 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 3: called to get data from the Massachusetts Department of Energy 293 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 3: and they asked me very specific questions about how much 294 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 3: electricity I was using and what the history of the 295 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 3: house was, and they said, our recommendation is you don't 296 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 3: change off electric heat. He says, because based on all 297 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 3: the information, your better off because you're insulated from fluctuations 298 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 3: in any market. Because mass electric as it was called 299 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 3: at the time, got their power from every source there 300 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 3: five there's like five different sources. It was like hydro, nuclear, coal, 301 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:13,479 Speaker 3: gas in oil said that it was equally so so 302 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 3: fluctuations in any market would you'd be insulated from that. 303 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 3: But we've come a long way from that situation in 304 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 3: Massachusetts to now they closed down the last coal plant 305 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 3: down and sale them. They're closing down Plymouth. You know 306 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 3: the UH do Gooder's got the nuclear power in Seabrook. 307 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 3: There was two nuclear uh reactors that were planned for 308 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 3: that and they it was half built and they cut 309 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 3: it down to one. So now it's all the green 310 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 3: energy thing that that's that's what is raising our price. 311 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 3: I don't hear anybody talking about, oh, you're. 312 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 2: Dead on, You're absolutely dead on. Look. 313 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: I can only add to what you're saying, Matt. They 314 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: have chased nuclear power out of the state, which was 315 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: a huge mistake because nuclear energy is cheap, it's very reliable, 316 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: and it's safe. It's very safe, contrary to all the 317 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: environmental is propaganda, and it's renewable. It's infinitely renewable. So 318 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: if you really care about climate change, you should be 319 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: the biggest supporter. The left should be the biggest supporter 320 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: of nuclear power. No, they have killed nuclear power. Coal 321 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: is not the coal of fifty years ago. It is 322 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: now clean coal. There's coal plants all over the world. 323 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: So why we are destroying coal is beyond me. Again, 324 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: very cheap, reliable, abundant source of power. I talked about 325 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: the two pipelines that crushed our economy and it drove 326 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: prices through the roof. When she killed those two gas 327 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: pipelines more a heally specifically, and she bragged about it. 328 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: Now she's lying because she's a compulsive liar. Now she's 329 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: lying saying she didn't kill the two gas pipelines when 330 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: a we have her signature on pieces of paper when 331 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 1: she was the ag killing the pipelines, and we have 332 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 1: her on video recorded again and again and again bragging 333 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: how she killed the two pipelines. So that alone has 334 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 1: driven energy utilities. I mean, to the point now it's 335 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: almost unbearable. It's almost I WinCE every time I get 336 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: the bill. I'm not kidding. When I see that bill 337 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: come in from National Grid, I'm like, it's like like 338 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: a boxer getting ready to get hit in the chain, 339 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: you know, like like a body blow, like a you know, 340 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: a real nasty body shot. It's like, oh, this is 341 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: gonna hurt, Like absorb that blow. And again, I'm really, 342 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: I'm being honest with all of you. I mean, you know, 343 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: we heat the house, but we're not going crazy. We 344 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: don't leave the lights on in rooms if there's no there, 345 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: We watch what we use. We're you know, we're very 346 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: responsible consumers. You know, we're not just putting the heater 347 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: on till eighty eighty five and leaving the lights on 348 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: all night. Quite, you know, quite the opposite. And I 349 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: can't believe how much we're paying every month. It's I'm 350 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: not saying it's a mortgage payment, but it's close to 351 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: a mortgage payment. It's it's outrageous. It's outrageous. So you're 352 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: completely right in everything that you say. And nobody's mentioning 353 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 1: any of this, any of this. And I'm getting harassed. 354 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 2: Okay. 355 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: I get call after call, they come to my door, 356 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: they don't stop trying to get me onto solar power. 357 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: And it's all because of the mass government. It's all 358 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: coming from Heally. And the thing is, I'm being serious. 359 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: They call, I block the call, I tell them stop 360 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: calling me. You keep calling me. I don't want solar power. 361 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to load my house up with solar panels. 362 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,239 Speaker 1: If some people want to do it, God bless you. 363 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: I'm listen. I believe in freedom of choice. Pick whatever 364 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: source of energy you want. I don't want solar panels 365 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: on my house for many reasons. One, it makes my 366 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: house ugly. It's going to kill the resale value. Be 367 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: solar panels as far as I'm concerned, don't work in 368 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: the winter time. So no, I don't want solar panels. Okay, 369 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: now leave me alone. They keep calling, they don't stop calling. 370 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: Then I block one number. They call in another number. 371 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: I block that number, they call in another number. I'm like, 372 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,959 Speaker 1: this is harassment, Like how many times do I have 373 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: to tell you? I get letters from them saying I 374 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: got to go to solar power. I tear up the 375 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: letters they keep sending. These idiots, by the way, they're 376 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 1: trespassing on my property. I'm not one of these guys, 377 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: you know with a shotgun. Get off my property. Okay, 378 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: you want to sell me something, fine, But when I 379 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: tell you no three times, four times, five times, six times, 380 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: ten times, stop coming on my freaking property and knocking 381 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: on my door. Especially during dinner time, and it's like, 382 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: you know, we want to sell you the benefits of solar. 383 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: F off. I don't want your solar. I mean, how 384 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 1: much clearer can I make it to you? Like, do 385 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: I have to start cursing at you? So they call, 386 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: they knock on the door. It's letters. And now what 387 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: they're doing is they're squeezing. They're squeezing. It's what Obama 388 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: said initially. We're going to raise the cost and raise 389 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: the cost and raise the cost until they're going to 390 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: have no choice but to go on solar. And remember, 391 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: solar is subsidized. Wind power is subsidized. Battery power. I 392 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: know Anthony and Michigan is a big fan of battery power. 393 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: I'm telling you it's subsidized. That means our taxpayer money 394 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: is going to pay to make this even semi affordable. 395 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: It's subsidized energy. Our taxpayer dollars are going into that 396 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: every bill that you pay fifteen to twenty or twenty 397 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: five percent is subsidizing the so called green energy or 398 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: renewable energies. And it just goes up and up and up. 399 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: They're stealing our money in the name of climate change, 400 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: which is a hoax. So you know, now it's going 401 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: to get to the point I'm telling you it's going 402 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: to be about I think three or four years. That's 403 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: what I was talking about with Lou. I'm not saying 404 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: they're not radicals overnight. But you can't charge three four 405 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 1: five thousand dollars a month, which is what they ultimately 406 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: want to do. 407 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 2: Okay, three four five thousand dollars a month utilities. 408 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: You just can't. You have to, like boiling a frog. 409 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: It's got to be one thousand, then twelve hundred and fifty, 410 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: then fifteen hundred, then seventeen hundred, and once you get 411 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: to a seventeen hundred two thousand, you're breaking people. You're 412 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 1: like that poor guy in Oxford. He's at twelve fifty 413 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 1: and now he's thinking, I don't know if I can 414 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: afford this house. 415 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 2: Okay, So you. 416 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: Get to about twelve fifty, fifteen hundred, seventeen hundred, you 417 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,479 Speaker 1: got us. Now, you got us by the tonsils, Okay, 418 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: unless you're you know, a wealthy, well connected democrat. So 419 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: that's what they're trying to do. Now, remember this is 420 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: going to be like Europe, where this has already been done. 421 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: We know where this ends. The Germans are paying the 422 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 1: equivalent of fifteen hundred to two thousand dollars a month 423 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: just in energy and utilities, never mind gas, that is 424 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: seven eight nine dollars. They go by leaders there, but 425 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: seven eight nine dollars a gallon. It has decimated the 426 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: middle class, all in the name of climate change and 427 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: converting the economy to green energy. It's what they call 428 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 1: green socialism. So that's what they're doing now. Either we 429 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: can wake up and fight back. And to me, that's 430 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: why I'm looking at the Republicans and I'm like, this 431 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: is the easiest sell in the world. No, do you 432 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: want to pay twelve hundred dollars a month for utilities? 433 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: That's what Moray Healy wants. Do you want that? Yes 434 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: or no? Do you want to keep paying higher taxes 435 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: because that's what she's offering. Do you want to keep 436 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 1: giving five billion dollars to illegals that's your money? Do 437 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: you want that? 438 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 2: Yes or no? 439 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, this is the most winnable election. 440 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: She's pushing one unpopular policy after another. But Catherine Vitally, 441 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: as often tells the truth the mass gop. I'm talking 442 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: about the leadership now and I'm talking about rank and file, 443 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,959 Speaker 1: because there's good, decent people like Catherine in the mass GOP, 444 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: but I'm talking at the leadership level. They add people 445 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: in the media. This is very important what's left of 446 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: the conservative Republican media. They are bought and paid for, 447 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: and they are paid to lose to the Democrats. And 448 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: the way you lose to the Democrats is you foment 449 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: the civil war within the Republican Party. And that's what 450 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: they do every two to four years. That's why Amy 451 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: Carnivalley Okay, in collusion with a certain radio talk show host. 452 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to mention his name because he cries, 453 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: literally he cries, So I don't want him to cry 454 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: and have a family member called the station manager and 455 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: start crying and anyway, so I don't want them to cry. 456 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: So I won't mention the person's name for ten fifteen 457 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: thousand dollars and that's all it is. You advertise on 458 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: his show and he endorses that candidate and then he 459 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: trashes the other candidates and they're. 460 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 2: Drinking the kool aid. 461 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: They're all kool aiding, except they literally espouse the very 462 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: things that Donald Trump does. But he claims to be 463 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: a big trumper. The Boston Herald. They've got this down 464 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: to a science. They're all pro Trump, but if you 465 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: actually defend Trump's policies, you're a Carnival Barker, kool aid drinker, 466 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: Amy Carnivalley. They install her as the mass GOP chair. 467 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: Listen to this. You know what her first act was 468 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: to come in with stupid kool aid packages and start 469 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: throwing them on seats, chairs and at the table, saying 470 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: this Mass GOP committee member, kool aid, this one kool 471 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: aid drinker, this one kool aid drinker. So the first 472 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: act that she did was to spark a civil war 473 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: within the mass GOP. Instead of bringing the party together, 474 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: she deliberately divided it and destroyed it. So a divided 475 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: party cannot be to Democrats. The party is divided now 476 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: and they have no money, no cash. They are the 477 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: Washington generals to the Harlem globetrotters, if you remember them 478 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: in the seventies. They are paid to lose, and they'll 479 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,719 Speaker 1: take the crumbs off the table. And that's what it is. 480 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: It's crumbs in order to guarantee that the Mass GOP 481 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,959 Speaker 1: lose and lose, and lose and lose and not just 482 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: lose the governor races. The gubernatorial races don't challenge any 483 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: Democrats for state House or state Senate. In most races, 484 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:51,479 Speaker 1: the Democrats run uncontested, unchallenged. So what you're saying is 485 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: you've got a permanent supermajority in the House, permanent supermajority 486 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: in the Senate, basically a permanent supermajority in the government, 487 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: one party rule. Now, give us a parking spot, give 488 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: me a twenty thousand dollars contract, give me a little 489 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: bit of money, and we'll lay down for you. And 490 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: if someone like Jeff Kooner comes along and says I 491 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: want to fight to win, I want a populist, working 492 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: middle class party that is going to stand up for 493 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: the rights of taxpayers and the hard working citizens of Massachusetts, 494 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: they got to put a guy like me down because 495 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: now I'm a threat to the establishment. I'm a threat 496 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: to the Democrats who wield the power, and I'm a 497 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: threat to these judas Republicans who are on the take, 498 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: corrupt to the bone, their little arrangement La coossan nostra, 499 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: as they say, this little thing among us. Okay, that's 500 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: what it means. Cossin nostra, the mafia, this little thing 501 00:31:55,720 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: among us. I now challenge that they don't want a 502 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: real opposition, and so once people understand that, then you 503 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: can challenge the system. And that's where we are now. 504 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: I've been living in this state now for a long time. 505 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: I love this state. There's nothing I wouldn't do for 506 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: this state. But I'm telling you, until we get a 507 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: real Republican Party, a real opposition party, we're going to 508 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:34,479 Speaker 1: continue to lose. Now, I'm telling you they lose in 509 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: November if they blow this election, and they're in the 510 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: process of blowing it, and I think again deliberately, it's 511 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: time to disband and get rid of the Massachusetts Republican 512 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: Party and start a real third party, a populist party, 513 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: a working class party, a party that will fight for 514 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: bread and butter issues for ordinary people in Massachusets. Because honestly, 515 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: no one's representing us, no one fights for us, no 516 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: one cares for us. We don't have a voice outside 517 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: of this show and the Boston Broadside. We don't have 518 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: a voice, a real, serious, sincere, authentic voice. So that's 519 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: what the stakes are. 520 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 2: Now. 521 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: Look, I'll tell you this, I don't know how many 522 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: months now, I've been asking these three Republican gubernatorial candidates 523 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: come on the show. I want to hear what you 524 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: have to say. None of them wants to come on. 525 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to brag about the listenership. The audience 526 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: of this show in a primary will make or break 527 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: whoever is the next gubernatorial nominee, the Republican nominee. Yet 528 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,479 Speaker 1: they're afraid to come on the show because what I'm 529 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: going to ask them some semi tough questions. I'm going 530 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: to ask them, are you actually sincere? And what you 531 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: say and what you believe in? So if you're afraid 532 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: to come on the Kooner Report, then A you're not serious, 533 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: and B you're gonna get destroyed by Moray Heally because 534 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,720 Speaker 1: I'm just asking tough questions because i want the audience 535 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: to know the truth. The Democrats, they they go for 536 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: the throat. They're ruthless, they they go for the juggular. 537 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: So this is where things stand right now. And so 538 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: that's why I'm telling you, Matt. In the end, I 539 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: think we're gonna have to form our own party. I 540 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,280 Speaker 1: think we're gonna have to form a third party. 541 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 2: We'll see. 542 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let things play out. And by the way, 543 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: for the record, just so that everybody knows whoever the 544 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 1: Republican nominee is for the governor race. For the governor's race, 545 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: I will enthusiastically support and back. Why not because I 546 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 1: like the individual candidate or agree with much of what 547 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,280 Speaker 1: the individual candidate stands for. Because I'm telling you I don't. 548 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: I think all three are weak. You're my honest opinion. 549 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: I have problems with all three of them. It doesn't matter. 550 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: They're infinitely better than Mora Healey. Mora Healey is the 551 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: kiss of death, and I'm going to do everything in 552 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 1: my power to see that she gets defeated in November. 553 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: So I don't want anybody to think I'm going to 554 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: urge people not to vote or stay home like they 555 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: did to poor Jeff Deal in the last election, because 556 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: the Chris Dodi forces stabbed him in the back. We 557 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 1: got Healey now and we're paying a tremendous price, and 558 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: I blame them for that betrayal. 559 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 2: Okay, but let that go. 560 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: I love this state too much, I love the people 561 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: in this state too much. I love my family too much. 562 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: I want Healey out. She needs to be defeated. And 563 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: I'll back whoever the Republicans pick as their nominee. So 564 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: whether they come on my show or not, I don't care. 565 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: But I'm telling you it's pathetic. It's pathetic. If you 566 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 1: can't come on this show, you're not going to win. 567 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you this right now, and I don't 568 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: think you deserve to win. H Matt, thank you so 569 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: much for that call. Six one seven two six six 570 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 1: sixty eight sixty eight is the number Lisa in Belmont. 571 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: Thanks for holding Lisa, and welcome. 572 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 6: Yes, you know Massachusetts politics is like a bartender and 573 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 6: in the pocket five in the register. 574 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 2: That is so well put. That is so well put. 575 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 6: But I wanted to tell you Belmont has their own 576 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 6: LFE departments. Thank god. The prices have gone up, but 577 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 6: not drastically. I want to make a point that I 578 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 6: think people are going to have to change their lifestyle. 579 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 6: I grew up with a single parent, and my mother 580 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 6: grew up in the Great Depression, and she really instilled 581 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 6: values in us. She didn't light an oven for one 582 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 6: pork chop, you know, she put it in the toaster oven. 583 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 6: She didn't put one pair of jeans in the clothes 584 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 6: dryer or a pillowcase in the washing machine. You know, 585 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 6: she waited until. 586 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 5: She had a big load. She made a grocery list, 587 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 5: she budgeted, she paid for what she needed and provided 588 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 5: the best she could for us. And I think people 589 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 5: now are just going cuckoo the way they're spending. And 590 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 5: now they're feeling it. 591 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 7: What say you, Jeff, Oh. 592 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 1: You're debt on, You're absolutely dead on. And look debt, 593 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: consumer debt, credit card debt, government debt. It's out of control. 594 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: It's all on credit, it's all on debt. And in 595 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: the end, debt is unsustainable. It's just unsustainable. Look, how 596 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: do you spend five billion on illegals? She's going to 597 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: bankrupt state. By the way, I'm not, as you know, 598 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 1: I thought Charlie Baker up until Healy, was the worst 599 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: governor we ever had. Okay, I think to me Baker 600 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,359 Speaker 1: was a disaster on so many levels. But to give 601 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 1: him his due, the devil his due, he left what 602 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 1: was it, four billion dollars four point three billion in 603 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: the rainy day fund. In other words, he left behind 604 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:20,280 Speaker 1: the surplus. 605 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 2: It's gone. It's gone. Oh my god, is that thing gone. 606 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:31,959 Speaker 1: So she's leaving behind not just a devastated economy and 607 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: a sanctuary state,