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Speaker 1: also listen to the Corey Bouman part podcast Corey Buman

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Speaker 1: Make clear that all buildings where people are detained must

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Speaker 1: Don't know, but insurmountable challenge. We'll see. Republicans in the

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Speaker 1: Thanks for calling it a happy Friday.

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Speaker 5: Hey Brian, Happy Friday to you too. I'm hoping your

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that very much. Cancer around number two. I

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Speaker 1: Bill lists specifically several acceptable documents to verify the citizenship

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Speaker 1: Not real ID, not real ID driver's licenses.

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Speaker 5: Okay, fantastic. That's all I got for you, brother.

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Speaker 8: Good, good morning. And we're talking about wanting some warmer weather,

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Speaker 8: Your list, the list that you read off there of

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Speaker 8: Got completely completely understand it. It's just I'm just highlighting

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Speaker 1: Thanks tomm you have a wonderful week, and you can

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Speaker 1: Yes, Happy Friday, five thirty nine. Stack is stupid in

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Speaker 1: are usually. Yeah, Cobb County, Georgia. Where is she gonna

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Speaker 1: put it? Joe Stra Women allegedly tried to bribe officers

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Speaker 1: while she was being arrested for a public nudity at

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Speaker 1: an Atlanta hotel. Twenty five year old Adija English arrested

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Speaker 1: effort to avoid jail. No No Dad from beyond love

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Speaker 1: You Dad. Once of the jail authorities claim English pushed

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Speaker 1: I were a betting man, I'd be going with him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: A big time yeah on that one. Let's see, we're

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Speaker 1: now in North Belverne in Pennsylvania. We have a man

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Speaker 1: doctor's office naked while holding two large knives. Okay, check

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Speaker 1: I group optometrist doctor John Chiccini speaking with it is.

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Speaker 1: It's certainly something you would never expect to hear on

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Speaker 1: a normal quiet Monday morning in North bell Vernon. Very

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Speaker 1: little problems here in North bell Vernon. Contrast that with

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Speaker 1: what happened. Fifty four year old Darnell Howell is the

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Speaker 1: guy cord to the criminal complaint. Incidents started about one pm.

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Speaker 1: One of the women working inside was on break, said

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Speaker 1: Jim Shortz holding a butcher knife in one hand and

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Speaker 1: a steak knife in another. Well, that's better than what

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Speaker 1: they're normally holding. Joe when they're naked and you read

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Speaker 1: about him in the stack is stupid phrasing anyway. According

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Speaker 1: to Checcini, I heard a bunch of cash from the

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Speaker 1: front office. I saw a large African American man who

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Speaker 1: is half dressed in just black running shorts, swinging away

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Speaker 1: with two large knives phrasing. According to him, How quickly

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Speaker 1: started doing damage to the front of the lobby, saying

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Speaker 1: he had knocked off some frames, broke some frames, and

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Speaker 1: threw a display down. The girls were all chaotic. We're

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Speaker 1: trying to call nine one one. We were all scattered.

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Speaker 1: Not long before the man was back in the back

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Speaker 1: of the office. Said he proceeded to stab the walls

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Speaker 1: with the knives. He sat on her sofa. He stabbed

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Speaker 1: that around sixteen times. He was trying to break into

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Speaker 1: the business offices where I was.

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 1: This was going on. According to the criminal complaint, they

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Speaker 1: say How dropped his shorts, rendering him completely naked.

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Speaker 7: Why are you doing that?

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Speaker 1: Genie said, he cornered one of our girls as he

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Speaker 1: was pinned between as she was pinned between a refrigerator

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Speaker 1: and a wall. He had two large knives. We were

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Speaker 1: really lucky in that aspect that no one got hurt.

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Speaker 1: No one inside knew the man or why he knew

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Speaker 1: the man to know why he was there. Police chief,

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Speaker 1: speaking with local news in Pittsburgh said how likely was

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Speaker 1: under the influence and that the department failure with familiar

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Speaker 1: with this guy due to prior cases and interactions that

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Speaker 1: did involve drugs. Apparently he proceeded up the street naked

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Speaker 1: and flailing around, but he had by that time dropped

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Speaker 1: the knives. Howell arrested about a block away from the

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Speaker 1: czech I group, taking a local medical facility for treatment,

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Speaker 1: rained the following morning. Fortunately no one seriously injured. Now

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Speaker 1: facing thirteen total charges, including multiple counts of aggravated assault

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Speaker 1: and reckless endangerment, and he was still in the Westmoreland

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Speaker 1: County jail on last report five fifty five Care see

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Speaker 1: the Dog Station. More from the stack coming up next.

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Speaker 1: See in a minute.

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Speaker 10: This is fifty five KRC an iHeartRadio station.

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Speaker 1: Hey y'all, it's the Leapdog Station by fifty on a Friday.

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Speaker 1: Happy one to you. Check Fredi of the Dave had

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Speaker 1: a coming to at six thirty fIF you about Carosey

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Speaker 1: dot com. You try media app why you were over there.

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Speaker 1: Check out the crimestopper bag guy the week. Going back

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Speaker 1: to the Democrats saying no racial profiling. I guess you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have the racial profile To find the crime stopper

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Speaker 1: bag guy of the week. Look height, wait, race, name,

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Speaker 1: background and history of criminal activity. Phone number to call

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Speaker 1: crime stoppers three five, two thirty forty. It's all there.

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Speaker 1: So you're looking for for Robert Norman. There's his description

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Speaker 1: black sixty six foot two, one hundred and eighty so

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Speaker 1: you're not looking for a five to nine Asian man

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Speaker 1: weighing in one hundred and twenty pounds. That's how you

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Speaker 1: find bad guys. Lord Almighty anyway, not to beat that

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Speaker 1: dead horse. Woman attacked. Let's see here. Woman who saw

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Speaker 1: an undressed, i e. Naked man lying in the middle

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Speaker 1: of Dauphin County. This is Pennsylvania, Dolphin County road stop

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Speaker 1: to help him, and that's when he attacked her and

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Speaker 1: stole her car. What county dispatcher's got a report? Seven

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Speaker 1: thirty the evening of a man in the street the

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Speaker 1: intersection please headed to the scene. That's when they received

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Speaker 1: an update. Did the woman stop to help the man?

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Speaker 1: The woman told police she felt bad that other drivers

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Speaker 1: were steering around him lying in the road, so she

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Speaker 1: stopped and ask if he needed help. That was a

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Speaker 1: good Samaritan thing to do, I would argue. But she

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Speaker 1: got out of the car and that's when the man

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Speaker 1: jumped up, pushed her, caused her to fall into the

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Speaker 1: ground and she hit her head. He then kicked her

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Speaker 1: in the ribs, punched her a few times before getting

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Speaker 1: into her car and driving off.

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Speaker 7: Why are you doing that?

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Speaker 1: He then crashed the vehicle into a shrubbery a short

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Speaker 1: distance away. Do you think there were two shrubberies, Joe

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Speaker 1: with a path in the middle? A two tiar effect?

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Speaker 1: Somebody right there is what the hell is he talking about?

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Speaker 1: See the Holy Grail? Witness has pointed out the shirtless

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Speaker 1: attackers location. Officers told her to get out of the vehicle.

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Speaker 1: Police said, he aggressively ran toward the officer and the woman,

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Speaker 1: at which time police warned to stop or the officer

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Speaker 1: would relieve this the canine. The man kept running, so

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Speaker 1: the officer released the canine, who bit the suspect in

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Speaker 1: his right leg. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I guess,

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Speaker 1: please find a lump in the back of the woman's head.

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Speaker 1: After the attack, twenty eight year old Mubarak Amen charged

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Speaker 1: with robbery of a motor vehicle, evading arrest on detention

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Speaker 1: or detention on foot, simple assault, and DUI. Police suggest

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Speaker 1: said he had a strong odor of alcohol and refused

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Speaker 1: to submit to a blood draw. Chucked into the Dolphin

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Speaker 1: County Prison after failing to post the one hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars bail. Good Irish name Thanks Joe. Los Angeles Universal

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Speaker 1: Cities a tram tour at Universal Studios in Hollywood described

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Speaker 1: as turning traumatic for visitors on Saturday. After coming to

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Speaker 1: an abrupt stop, man got out of the vehicle took

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Speaker 1: off his clothes in front of more than one hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty.

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Speaker 4: People, as this tradition.

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Speaker 1: Shocking no one. One passenger suggested the man appeared as

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Speaker 1: if he was under the influence of drugs or alcohol,

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Speaker 1: adding that the man was rolling around on the ground

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Speaker 1: and taunting employees on the side of the road. I

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Speaker 1: was just gonna say that, Joe, did he taunt them

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Speaker 1: a second time? Video from the scene shows the same

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Speaker 1: movie Folks By the way from the seats, just a

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Speaker 1: naked guy walking on the ground with his hands behind

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Speaker 1: his back as it appeared to the security guards were

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Speaker 1: trying to detain him. After being removed from the scene,

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Speaker 1: every guest onboard got Express lane passes for the day

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Speaker 1: at Universal Studios, Montgomery County, Philadelphia. Investigation being conducted by

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Speaker 1: the Detective Bureau after a police officer was caught on

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Speaker 1: camera hitting a naked guy who is standing in the

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Speaker 1: middle of an intersection in Norristown. Officers from the Norristown

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Speaker 1: Police Department called the intersection February fourth, twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 1: after receiving reports that a naked guy standing in the

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Speaker 1: way of traffic. Police said the man was not wearing

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Speaker 1: any clothes was seen vandalizing a park car, hitting cars

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Speaker 1: that were passing by him, obviously creating a danger dangerous

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Speaker 1: environment officers on the scene. They say one of the

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Speaker 1: marked police office cars was then captured on camera hitting

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Speaker 1: the person, and of course, the viral video has of

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Speaker 1: course gone viral. Cell phone video is shared with local

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Speaker 1: news captured the naked guy the moment he was hit.

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Speaker 1: Man seen in the video flying several feet before landing

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Speaker 1: on the ground. Once on the ground, officers surrounded him

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Speaker 1: were able to restrain him before giving him medical attention.

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Speaker 1: Spokesman for the municipality the events depicted in this video

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Speaker 1: are very concerning. A full investigation is underway, of course.

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Speaker 1: The officer driving the car placed on administrative leave. Spokesman

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Speaker 1: for them. Missipality of Norristown, of course, issued a statement

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Speaker 1: saying the independent investigation is being conducted by the Montgomery

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Speaker 1: County Detective Bureau. Apparently they had a huge town hall

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Speaker 1: over this one. Angry and concerned citizens demanding answers from

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Speaker 1: town leaders. Well, you demand answers from the naked guy

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Speaker 1: stand in the middle of the street. Five fifty fivety

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Speaker 1: five k C the talk station got plenty of time

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Speaker 1: to talk between now and six thirty, and of course

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Speaker 1: that's when Dave had to return to the program and

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Speaker 1: gives us all the tech news we can use for

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Speaker 1: the day Tech Friday coming up at six thirty. I

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Speaker 1: hope you can stick around today's tough headlines coming up

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Speaker 1: at BOK Station by Thomas me Those from fifty five KRC.

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Speaker 1: Morning sure, Wishing everybody a very very happy Friday, favorite

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Speaker 1: day of the week for me at six thirty every

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Speaker 1: six thirty on a Friday, Tech Friday. But Dave had

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Speaker 1: are coming to the bottom of the hour. We're talking about

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Speaker 1: chatbots stripping women of clothes in uh well down to

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Speaker 1: bikinis anyway, chat bots anyway, other wayse Artificial intelligence can

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Speaker 1: inflict damage. Plus if you if you use Gmail, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna want to turn off a certain feature. We'll learn

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Speaker 1: all about that at the bottom of this hour. In

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Speaker 1: the meantime, Mike dwin'es a little upset. Haitian immigration status

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Speaker 1: is in jeopardy temporary protective status. He's worried it's gonna

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Speaker 1: hurt Ohio. Well momentarily, we'll get to that. So after

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Speaker 1: tech freighting at Corey Bowman one hour from now, get

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Speaker 1: Merrill Kennedy, who is now running for a precinct executive spot.

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Speaker 1: Congressman Warred Davidson at seven thirty shut down was temporarily averted.

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Speaker 1: Will they include the Save Act in the Department of

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Speaker 1: Homeland Security funding? Republicans are demanding that it go there

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Speaker 1: trying you heard top of the ur news Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: wants it, and no they're not nationalizing elections. Don I

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Speaker 1: think he overspoke, And of course he rolled out the

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Speaker 1: Press secretary to say, no, that's not what he's talking about.

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Speaker 1: He's really talking about IDs photo IDs for federal elections,

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Speaker 1: not nationalizing the election. Someone finally gave him a copy

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Speaker 1: of the Constitution and pointed out to Donald Trump that no,

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Speaker 1: you can't federalize the elections as a state run thing,

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Speaker 1: which is a good thing. It's almost impossible to corrupt

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Speaker 1: the voting system in every possible jurisdiction. I mean, even

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Speaker 1: municipality or counties have their own separate methodologies and vote tabulations,

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Speaker 1: like computer systems and the like. One size does not

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Speaker 1: fit all, and the more sizes there are out there,

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Speaker 1: the more difficult it is would be for an evil

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Speaker 1: entity to hack into a singular system and alter the

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Speaker 1: outcome of the vote. Anyway, it is all about federal

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Speaker 1: identification for federal elections. Got new tax rules giving you

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Speaker 1: a bigger refund, Congressman davids And will be talking about that,

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Speaker 1: plus new manufacturing and innovation hub opening in his district.

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Speaker 1: Good news from Congressman Warren Davidson. In seven thirty Hard

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Speaker 1: for Seniors, Patty Scott with great ways to help seniors

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Speaker 1: at home or in assisted living for city facilities. And

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Speaker 1: then Jack Winsor, editor in chief of the Chile Press

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Speaker 1: Network on students skipping school to protest ice activity in

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Speaker 1: Springfield and Governor de Wine's fingerprints all over the Haitian population,

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Speaker 1: which brings me back to what I mentioned at the

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Speaker 1: top of the hour and air Governor Wine said yesterday

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Speaker 1: that ending Temporary Protected Status TPS for Haitians living and

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Speaker 1: working in Ohio Springfield, notably with the Haitian population substantial there.

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Speaker 1: From everything I've read said, we call it a blow

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Speaker 1: to the economy. If they lose temporary protected status and

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Speaker 1: they no longer can work at the companies, and I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: and the companies can't employ them, that's a blow to

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Speaker 1: the economy. That's a blow to the state. Now, this

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Speaker 1: on the heels of Judge Anna Rhees, which put a

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Speaker 1: halt to the announcement from Homeland Security Secretary of Christine

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Speaker 1: Nome terminating the TPS status for Haitians, saying that the

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Speaker 1: conditions have changed in Haiti ergo it's okay for them

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Speaker 1: to go back, which is a little hard to swallow,

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Speaker 1: I will admit, because the while, well, we got to

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Speaker 1: do not travel advisory from the State Department do not

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Speaker 1: travel to Haiti for any reason. Kidnapping, crime, terrorist activities,

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Speaker 1: civil unrest, and limited healthcare kind of flies in the

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Speaker 1: face of the determination that it's safe to go back

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Speaker 1: to Haiti. Anyway, the basis of the TPS status that

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Speaker 1: it was not. So if you're under TPS status, all right,

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Speaker 1: you're allowed to work. Fine, that's the way the law is.

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Speaker 1: You can say it's a stupid law or whatever. That's okay,

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Speaker 1: that's fine. That's why all these Haitians are apparently employed.

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Speaker 1: They're subject to TPS that gives them the opportunity to work.

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Speaker 1: And that was Dwine's point. Look, these people are employed.

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Speaker 1: If you pull the job rug out from under them,

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Speaker 1: they obviously are going to be impacted with the economy

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Speaker 1: in the state of Ohio. Let me just ask an

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Speaker 1: out loud question. If you are an employer and you

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Speaker 1: are hiring a Haitian that is under TPS status, don't

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Speaker 1: you know based upon what TPS stands for, that it

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Speaker 1: is temporary. It's kind of like, if I may interject

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Speaker 1: COVID nineteen subsidies, they're temporary. Look, there's an expiration date.

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Speaker 1: Right there, You can count on these subsidies to cover

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Speaker 1: your Obamacare premiums up until a date certain, which would

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Speaker 1: be either after COVID departs the neighborhood and you no

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Speaker 1: longer need the subsidy at least an excuse based on COVID,

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Speaker 1: or the date comes and goes and it expires. Hey,

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Speaker 1: red flag, it's right there. Temporary protected status an employer

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Speaker 1: has to consider, well, listen, if I hire this guy,

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Speaker 1: and you know, knowing the Trump administration as I know

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration is pretty likely, given the push to

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Speaker 1: deport illegal immigrants from our country, they're probably going to

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Speaker 1: lose their temporary protected status and I'm gonna have to

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Speaker 1: find somebody else to do the job. Didn't you factor

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Speaker 1: that into the equation? Isn't this caveat emptor type of

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Speaker 1: stuff for the employers who hired the Haitians? And backing

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Speaker 1: up a moment before the Haitians arrived in Springfield, before

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Speaker 1: they were given temporary protected status, who was doing the

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Speaker 1: damn jobs? And why weren't US citizens doing the jobs?

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Speaker 1: Or were these op did these openings pop up after

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Speaker 1: the temporary protected status was offered, giving Haitians the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to take jobs, perhaps at a lower salary than US

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Speaker 1: citizens might have demanded had they applied for the job.

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Speaker 1: This is filled with a bunch of mystery and swirling questions.

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Speaker 1: I don't have answers to but Governor DeWine temporary and

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Speaker 1: you don't have any control over that. So maybe a

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Speaker 1: little suggestion to employers out of the world, if you

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Speaker 1: are hiring people based upon their temporary protected status, this

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Speaker 1: may land in your lap. Now, the lawsuit's still going on,

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Speaker 1: Temporary protected status may be ultimately addressed, and it may

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Speaker 1: be that they overturned the lower judges halt to this,

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Speaker 1: and maybe they find that yes, temporary protected status revocation

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Speaker 1: is AOK, lawful in then sorry, it sucks to be you.

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Speaker 1: They're no longer than eligible for employment. I don't know

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Speaker 1: that that necessary early means ICE is going to go

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Speaker 1: rush into Springfield and throw out every single Haitian person

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Speaker 1: here illegally. I think they're still going to focus on

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Speaker 1: the criminal element, at least that's what I've been led

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Speaker 1: to believe, and I think that's an appropriate place to start. However,

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Speaker 1: if they can't work any longer, you got this sort

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Speaker 1: of crazy reality that means they're probably going to end

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Speaker 1: up hooked up to the bubilical Court of Social Welfare.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what CJ's got this morning. CJ, thanks for

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Speaker 1: calling this morning in a very happy Friday to you.

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Speaker 2: Happy Friday to you, and continued good health to you

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Speaker 2: as well, my friends.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: And I would I would actually love to listen to

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Speaker 2: Christopher's first Smitherman's talk about this, even though I already

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Speaker 2: know what he's saying because I have it in my head.

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Speaker 2: But two things have happened recently. And notice no Democrat

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Speaker 2: or anybody in the media talking about it. And you've

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Speaker 2: also seen it because you're not seeing protests on the

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Speaker 2: news every night from Minnesota, because all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: all of these left wing protesters are up there throwing

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Speaker 2: the inward with the heart hard r A Ice agents

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Speaker 2: who are black, and they are just sitting there free

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Speaker 2: Willie doing this, and they are posting it online. They're

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Speaker 2: not hiding it, they are posting it. They are celebrating

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Speaker 2: their racism up there, and ironically or not ironically, the

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Speaker 2: media has all of a sudden not been showing these

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Speaker 2: protests as much because they want to make sure they

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Speaker 2: don't get that stuff in the media because it will

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Speaker 2: instantly kill the narrative of what is happening up in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: And then we've we heard yesterday that Virginia has gone

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Speaker 2: in and they've decided they're going to go after winning,

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Speaker 2: you know, the the state House by one percentage point,

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Speaker 2: that they're gonna make Virginia a ten to one Democrat

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Speaker 2: congressional represented state. In order to do that, they're going

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Speaker 2: to take all nearly all of the black population and

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Speaker 2: put it into one district, which is a complete violation

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Speaker 2: of the Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty five. And

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Speaker 2: once again, who will you hear nothing from about this?

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Speaker 2: It's the mainstream media and it's also our lovely Democrat

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Speaker 2: representatives who are willing to turn a blind eye for

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Speaker 2: power at blatant racism.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough, Yeah, that I guess, Cjay. I'm your point

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Speaker 1: on the protesters using the N word. I thought that

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Speaker 1: that word was unacceptable and verboten in all circumstances, period,

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Speaker 1: full stop, unless, of course, it involves hip hop or

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Speaker 1: rap music. I'm gonna pull my tongue out of my

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Speaker 1: cheek on that one. Yeah, they're referring to the black

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Speaker 1: ice agents as house and words, which, yeah, sounds rather

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Speaker 1: racist to me CJ. But I'm not. I don't have

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Speaker 1: to struggle with that dilemma because I'm not them, and

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Speaker 1: I'm not backed into the corner with a ridiculous, unsupportable position.

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Speaker 1: Can we get the criminals out of our neighborhoods, please,

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Speaker 1: Dear God, legal criminals, illegal criminals, whatever I mean, immigration status.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, we got a vehicle to improve the

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Speaker 1: quality of our neighborhoods by getting rid of the criminal element.

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Speaker 1: That's why that part of this, this enforcement process is

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Speaker 1: widely embraced. Who wants a pedophile next door? Six sixteen

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Speaker 1: fifty five kr CD talk station. Feel free to calls

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Speaker 1: and you feel fair to feed to call Zimmer Zimmerheating

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Speaker 1: and air Conditioning, third generation the talk station six twenty

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Speaker 1: one fifty five kr CD talk station. I am certainly

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Speaker 1: happy it is Friday. How about you, David? Indeed, I

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Speaker 1: always get the same answer from him, is that's strange.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the Phones's got a couple of calls online.

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Speaker 1: Joyce's first, Joyce, thanks for calling the program. Happy Friday

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Speaker 1: to you.

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Speaker 11: Well, thanks Brian, Good morning to you. I just wanted

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Speaker 11: a first date. I grew up listening to your dad

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Speaker 11: because my mom had him on every morning.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, and so when you took over. I lived in

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Speaker 11: New York for many years before I came back, so well,

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Speaker 11: I remember your dad very fondly. My mom loved your dad.

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Speaker 1: I'm so pleased to hear that. Always puts a smile

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Speaker 1: on my face. And to you and your mom, as

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Speaker 1: I tell everybody who listened to my dad, thank you

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Speaker 1: for putting me through college.

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Speaker 11: Well, my mom passed a few years ago, so I

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Speaker 11: mean we're the same age, you and I almost exactly.

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Speaker 1: How about that, Well, she's hanging out with dad right now, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she probably.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure she is.

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Speaker 11: I'm sure they're fast friends up there.

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Speaker 1: I bet so, I bet.

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Speaker 11: I just wanted to make a comment on the Springfield situation.

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Speaker 11: I live in Springfield now and I have for the

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Speaker 11: past six years or so after moving back from New York,

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Speaker 11: and I have yet to see one Haitian provide me

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Speaker 11: a service. So, I mean, I shop here, I live here,

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Speaker 11: I go to the gym here.

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Speaker 5: I mean, my life is here now.

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Speaker 11: So I teach my substitute teach here, and I just

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Speaker 11: all these talk about employment, I don't know what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, that's I thank you, Joyce.

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Speaker 7: One.

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Speaker 1: Now you're the first person who is self identified calling

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Speaker 1: the morning show that you're from Springfield, so you have

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Speaker 1: some familiarity with what's going on in the neighborhood. Is

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Speaker 1: there a noticeable presence of Haitians in the neighborhood? Do

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Speaker 1: they I mean live in a certain section of town,

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Speaker 1: like we see with the Muslim community in Minneapolis. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't know because I haven't been to Springfield in forever.

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Speaker 1: So is it as the neighborhood changed over the past

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Speaker 1: several years, Joyce, I mean, do you notice anything?

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Speaker 11: Well, I do know that shopping, you know, I go

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Speaker 11: to the supermarkets here and you will there's certainly a

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Speaker 11: presence of them. And the weird thing about it is

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Speaker 11: there always in groups of three, maybe four grown men. Okay,

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Speaker 11: It's very very rare to see a family. So I

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Speaker 11: don't know what that demographic means.

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Speaker 1: Well, maybe it's a cultural thing, Joyce. I never seen

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Speaker 1: a woman go to the bathroom by herself. She always

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Speaker 1: needs a girlfriend or two to go, So maybe it's

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Speaker 1: a cultural thing. I have no idea. But you know,

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Speaker 1: but Governor de Wine said, not only are they working,

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Speaker 1: they of course are spending money in the community. There's

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Speaker 1: been businesses started, restaurants have started. That's I guess he's

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Speaker 1: happy that he can get his agree out with Picklets

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Speaker 1: and the side order of Dirry John John. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: There's one.

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Speaker 11: There's one Haitian restaurant that I know of, one one,

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Speaker 11: and from what I want and from what I understand,

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Speaker 11: it's it's patronized almost exclusively by Haitians.

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Speaker 1: So well, I don't want any You may be missing

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Speaker 1: out on a cultural treat there with the Haitian food act.

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Speaker 1: I've had some, not bad. I am a fan of

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Speaker 1: food from all over the four corners of the planet.

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Speaker 1: So if I had a Haitian restaurant show up in

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Speaker 1: my neighborhood, I know I would frequent it, and then

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Speaker 1: I could say, Joyce, I have been served by a

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Speaker 1: working Haitian person. Assuming the Haitians on the restaurant, that'd

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Speaker 1: be okay.

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Speaker 11: But I still, yeah, I don't listen.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 11: I'm not I'm not dissing their cuisine.

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Speaker 5: By any stretch.

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Speaker 11: So all I know is that I live here and

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Speaker 11: I work here. Like I said, I'm semi retired and

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Speaker 11: my husband and I live here, and I have yet

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Speaker 11: to have one of them provide any service for me

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Speaker 11: what they're doing employment wise, I have no clues so

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Speaker 11: and it just as an ending note, there's a bad

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Speaker 11: taste in my mouth and many people around that I

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Speaker 11: know here is that Governor Dowine kind of did this

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Speaker 11: in the middle of the night. He like shipped them

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Speaker 11: all in without any consultation or letting us know any

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Speaker 11: of the community. No members know that they here.

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Speaker 1: Right, I have heard Joyce, I have heard that before,

869
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Speaker 1: and a nod to Maureen is out there this morning.

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Speaker 1: But I guess the big question is why and if

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Speaker 1: you are and with whom did if Dwine actively engaged

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Speaker 1: in making sure the Haitian community was moved specifically to Springfield. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it seems to me that you might want to let

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Speaker 1: the officials in Springfield know that there's going to be

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Speaker 1: an influx, maybe substantially of Haitians into the community. But

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Speaker 1: why Springfield, Why would he facilitate it all? These again,

877
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Speaker 1: questions swirl around that. But your comment about Dwine having

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Speaker 1: something to do with the reality we're living with is

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Speaker 1: I've heard many many times, I just haven't seen any

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Speaker 1: you know, specifics. Here's the document, Here's what had happened

881
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Speaker 1: behind the scenes. I would love to know that, I

882
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Speaker 1: really would.

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Speaker 11: Well, yeah, that's just the thing to where you're always

884
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Speaker 11: worried about this his backroom dealings like what happens here

885
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Speaker 11: and I will be glad and by Beck Whens.

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Speaker 1: And Wine is out right last Joyce. I love your optimism.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much again for the kind words and

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Speaker 1: for listening to Dad back in those days. And I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Six twenty six see the talk station. It

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Speaker 1: is six point thirty. It's Friday. Stating the obvious. It

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Speaker 1: is time for tech Friday with Dave Hatter. In trust

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Speaker 1: it is Dave's company. He has been voted the best

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Speaker 1: IT company for businesses by the Business Courrier. I trust

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Speaker 1: the business career and I certainly trust Dave Hatter and

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Speaker 1: his team, so interest it dot Com to tap into

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Speaker 1: their awesome services. Welcome back, Dave Hatter. Happy Friday to you.

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Speaker 9: Always good to be here, Brian, thanks for having me,

898
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Speaker 9: and Happy Friday to you and Joe and all your listeners.

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Speaker 1: All right, everybody's seen the idea that artificial intelligence can

900
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Speaker 1: make clothed people look naked. But this is different. Apparently,

901
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Speaker 1: chatbots stripper. Now you're gonna have to explain this to me,

902
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Speaker 1: you know me, I don't use madips and stuff like that.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you may be better off, Brian, you may be

904
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Speaker 9: better off. So this is a story and wired and

905
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Speaker 9: it's interesting because you may have noticed in the media

906
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Speaker 9: lately there's been a lot of talk about this, specifically

907
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Speaker 9: around Rock. As a reminder, Grock is x AI aka

908
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Speaker 9: Elon Musk's chat bots. So when you think chatbot, when

909
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Speaker 9: you hear that word, essentially what they're talking about is

910
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Speaker 9: large language model based generative AI tools aka GROCK, Gemini

911
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 9: from Google Chat, GPT from Open Ai, Claude, Perplexity, et cetera.

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Speaker 9: Now it does a lot more than what I'm going

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Speaker 9: to describe. But you know the idea that if you

914
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Speaker 9: go to chat GPT, you sit down, you type in

915
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Speaker 9: a prompt and it generates some kind of content text, audio, video, whatever.

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Speaker 9: You know, it's gotten much better at that these tools.

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Speaker 9: And this really gets to the heart of something you

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Speaker 9: and I have been talking about ever since AI sort

919
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Speaker 9: of hit the public's consciousness. Deep fakes, which are could

920
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Speaker 9: be audio, could be video, could be text, but it's

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Speaker 9: something that is made up by the AI.

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Speaker 7: It's fake.

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Speaker 9: And you know, we've talked about the potential implications on

924
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Speaker 9: the legal system, on politics.

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Speaker 7: But the latest thing.

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Speaker 9: That's caused quite a stir is people have figured out

927
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Speaker 9: how to use these chatbot tools again think chat GPT,

928
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Speaker 9: rock whatever, to take someone's photo and either A put

929
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Speaker 9: them in a bikini or b make them nude. And again,

930
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Speaker 9: this story from why are Google and open AI's chatbots

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Speaker 9: can strip women down to photos women in photos down

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Speaker 9: to bikinis points out that this is fairly easy to

933
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Speaker 9: do and unfortunately, unfortunately are to stop. One of the

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Speaker 9: terms you hear when people talk about this is the

935
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Speaker 9: idea of jail breaking, that I'm purposely going to attempt

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Speaker 9: to get one of these chatbots to do something it's

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Speaker 9: not supposed to do, right, Yeah, yeah, this is the

938
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Speaker 9: latest thing. And you know, in many cases, if someone

939
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Speaker 9: just sits down and types in a prompt give me

940
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Speaker 9: this right, if that violates rule, then it'll say I

941
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Speaker 9: can't do that. But what people have gotten good at

942
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Speaker 9: is figuring out ways to spend time working their way

943
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Speaker 9: into what they want, you know, step by step, trying

944
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Speaker 9: to get to an end result that would be denied

945
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Speaker 9: if you just asked it straight out. And I'm not

946
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Speaker 9: saying that's necessarily what's happening here in every case. I'm

947
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Speaker 9: just saying it's really difficult to stop people from jail

948
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Speaker 9: breaking these things.

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Speaker 1: I just am led to the conclusion. I just wonder,

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Speaker 1: don't these people have anything better to do with their

951
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Speaker 1: time day? I know that's ridiculous thing to say, but

952
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Speaker 1: apparently they don't.

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Speaker 9: Apparently they don't, now, you know, and I understand why.

954
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Speaker 9: You know, if you're a woman and you have a

955
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Speaker 9: photo online and someone takes it and then put you

956
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Speaker 9: in a bikini or some other subjective thing or unfortunately

957
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Speaker 9: makes you need it. I mean, it's it's sad that

958
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Speaker 9: this can happen, and I'm not really sure ultimately it

959
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Speaker 9: can be fixed. Again, Can they build these systems over

960
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Speaker 9: time so that they can't ever be jailbroken. I don't know, Brian,

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Speaker 9: I really don't know. I think it's it's a very

962
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Speaker 9: difficult challenge.

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Speaker 1: And then to your point in the programmer, you're saying

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Speaker 1: out loud, this is a difficult challenge to get to

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Speaker 1: that point. It's almost impossible, is what I'm hearing.

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Speaker 9: Well, you know, maybe if the AI gets smart enough

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Speaker 9: that on its own, it could understand that it is

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Speaker 9: being led down a path to jail breaking to do

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Speaker 9: something it's not supposed to do. Maybe, But you know,

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Speaker 9: to your point, as a guy who spent a lot

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Speaker 9: of time writing code, could I anticipate every single way

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Speaker 9: that a user would do something that they shouldn't do

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Speaker 9: and that it would cause an error.

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Speaker 7: It's really hard.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's really hard to do that, and that's why

976
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Speaker 9: software has bugs in it, right, you know, I never

977
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Speaker 9: it never occurred to me they would do this one

978
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Speaker 9: thing here, and so it's a difficult challenge. I understand

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Speaker 9: why women are unhappy about this, especially like you know,

980
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Speaker 9: if this your daughter and some creep goes out and

981
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Speaker 9: finds a picture of her and next thing you know,

982
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Speaker 9: there are deep fake nudes of her floating around or

983
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Speaker 9: again and suggestive photos and bikinis or whatever. I totally understand.

984
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Speaker 9: I think it's sad that this is a thing.

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Speaker 1: It could be embarrassing for guys too, right, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can resize the junk and embarrassed guys

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Speaker 1: if you wanted, right.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean you theoretically using these tools can alter

989
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Speaker 9: pictures in all kinds of ways, again, including nudes or

990
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Speaker 9: you know, could you try to frame someone with this? Well, yeah,

991
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Speaker 9: yeah you could. It's this has been one of the

992
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Speaker 9: latest things to catch a lot of bad press. But

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Speaker 9: when you extrapolate out using these tools to take a

994
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Speaker 9: photo of someone or frankly create a whole cloth photo

995
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Speaker 9: of someone, yeah, and then you know, put them into

996
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Speaker 9: some kind of compromising position, it's a real concern. And again,

997
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Speaker 9: while groc has gotten a lot of the ir on this,

998
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Speaker 9: this is a story from Wired again pointing out that

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Speaker 9: Google and open ai seem to have the same problem.

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Speaker 9: And you know, it's it's just one of the many

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Speaker 9: challenges we face as a result of this technology.

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Speaker 7: So people should be aware of this.

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Speaker 9: About the only thing you can do to protect yourself

1004
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Speaker 9: from it is try to limit the amount of photos

1005
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Speaker 9: that are out there with you in them. Yeah, good luck,

1006
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Speaker 9: which is difficult. Yeah, good luck. And then understand that

1007
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Speaker 9: someone can potentially just create something completely from whole cloth

1008
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Speaker 9: in and without a photo of you to begin with,

1009
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Speaker 9: as this tech progresses.

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Speaker 1: So what a sad empathetic existence that person has who

1011
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: takes the time to do this. We'll bring Dave patterback

1012
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: talk about ways artificial intelligence can inflict damage. Plus stick around.

1013
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Speaker 1: Come it's six for COVID sixty two. It's about Karcity

1014
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Speaker 1: talk station interest it dot com where you find Dave

1015
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: Patter and you find them every week here on Friday morning,

1016
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: meeting at six. Moving over ways artificial intelligence can inflict damage,

1017
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Speaker 1: unprecedented damage, says the headline of the zd net article

1018
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Speaker 1: you'll have posted on LinkedIn on your account. Go ahead, Dave,

1019
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Speaker 1: what's this all about?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Brian, we won't have time to get into all

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Speaker 9: of these. I'm glad you mentioned that, so I'll share

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Speaker 9: this article. And I think that the headline is a

1023
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Speaker 9: little hyperbolic, and I mean we just talked about one

1024
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Speaker 9: of the ways they don't cover. This is more of

1025
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Speaker 9: an IT focus for you as as a person trying

1026
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Speaker 9: to defend your systems against this stuff. And I would say,

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Speaker 9: you know, every business needs to be thinking about this,

1028
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Speaker 9: and I also want to start out with these tools

1029
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 9: can be extremely powerful and productive if you understand what

1030
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 9: they can and can't do, and you think about some

1031
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 9: of the security issues that they point out in a

1032
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Speaker 9: cd net article. A couple headlines are a couple of topics.

1033
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Speaker 9: They say AI enabled malware will unleash havoc. I'm just

1034
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Speaker 9: going to hit a couple of these and come back

1035
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Speaker 9: to them. Agentic AI is involving into every thread actor's fantasy.

1036
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Speaker 9: Prompting prompt injection AI tools will be the new attack surface.

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Speaker 9: Thread actors will use AI to go after the weakest

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Speaker 9: link humans. That's my biggest concern. By the way, come

1039
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Speaker 9: back again, I'm going to get into each of these

1040
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Speaker 9: A little bit. AI will expose APIs too easily exploited.

1041
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Speaker 9: Extortion tactics will evolve from ransomware encryption. And they mentioned

1042
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Speaker 9: in the next one how contagion spreads to industrial control

1043
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Speaker 9: and operations. I don't remember if we talked about this

1044
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 9: last year or not. Range Rover Jaguar Range Rover had

1045
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 9: a devastating ransomware attack. They had some systems down for months,

1046
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Speaker 9: and the last number I saw they lost something like

1047
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Speaker 9: two billion dollars. People got laid off there, People got

1048
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,479
Speaker 9: laid off with their suppliers because their suppliers had nothing

1049
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 9: to do since they weren't making cars. I mean, it

1050
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 9: was a devastating attack. Not necessarily AI related, but they're

1051
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Speaker 9: just drawing the nexus of these things and the two

1052
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Speaker 9: big threats I think every business really needs to consider

1053
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Speaker 9: around AI as it stands today.

1054
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Speaker 7: Again, there's a couple more in this article.

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Speaker 9: If you don't have people that understand what these things

1056
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Speaker 9: can and can't do, the idea of hallucinations and so forth,

1057
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Speaker 9: and you can't just assume anything that it creates as

1058
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Speaker 9: one hundred percent accurate, that's a problem.

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Speaker 7: And when you.

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Speaker 9: Couple that with the idea that I'm going to have

1061
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Speaker 9: an AI agent that can go do something on its own,

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Speaker 9: it's not a human being sitting and typing prompts in

1063
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 9: and getting output and doing something. I'm going to let

1064
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Speaker 9: something run on its own and do stuff. I'm going

1065
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 9: to give it credentials, use your name and passwords so

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Speaker 9: it can act on its own. There is an enormous

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Speaker 9: amount of risk in that. They talk about that in here,

1068
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Speaker 9: and there are many other articles about that. I'm not

1069
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Speaker 9: saying you shouldn't do it. I'm not saying it can't work.

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Speaker 9: What I'm saying is if you think that you're just

1071
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Speaker 9: going to give this thing a user name and password

1072
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Speaker 9: and let it start doing stuff, that that couldn't go

1073
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Speaker 9: catastrophically wrong. You need to be very very careful and

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Speaker 9: really understand all the ins and outs of that. And frankly,

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Speaker 9: if you give it credentials and let it do things

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Speaker 9: on its own, have you secured it correctly so it

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Speaker 9: can't be hacked? And then the bad guys are now

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Speaker 9: operating with permissions in your system, the permissions that you

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Speaker 9: gave it. So that's something everyone needs to look at

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Speaker 9: very carefully and really understand what the risks are there

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Speaker 9: and make sure they're taking adequate protection against that risk.

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Speaker 9: But the biggest thing I'm still mostly concerned about is

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Speaker 9: as these tools progress, as we just talked about in

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Speaker 9: the last segment about the bikini thing, it's easier and

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Speaker 9: easier and easier for bad guys to create things that

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Speaker 9: are incredibly realistic, including cloning someone's voice. For example, so

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Speaker 9: you come into work, there's a quote voicemail unquote from

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Speaker 9: your boss telling you to do a transfer of some sort.

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Speaker 7: Sounds exactly like them.

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Speaker 9: They got your voices or your boss's voice from his

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Speaker 9: voicemail or from some public speech he gave, or whatever.

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Speaker 9: They use a tool to clone his voice, a deep

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Speaker 9: fake voice clone. It's simple, it's free, and these things

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Speaker 9: are unbelievably good at this now, so you know the

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Speaker 9: idea that as a criminal, I can create text, audio

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Speaker 9: and video that is unbelievably realistic. It will look exactly

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Speaker 9: like the real person. Could you get a call where

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Speaker 9: the hacker is literally using a voice cloning tool and

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Speaker 9: talking to you real time by typing a response in

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Speaker 9: and hitting a button and generating a voice Yes, that

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Speaker 9: is a thing at this point. I think you and

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Speaker 9: I talked about the Ferrari situation last year where the

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Speaker 9: CFO of Ferrari almost was fooled by a voice clone

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Speaker 9: of the CEO of Ferrari. I mean they know each

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Speaker 9: other personally, they work together all the time. So I

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Speaker 9: think the average person does not realize how advanced all

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Speaker 9: this stuff is at this point in terms of this

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Speaker 9: deep fate capability, and every business should be training their

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Speaker 9: employees on the risks how to use this stuff, the

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Speaker 9: risks of it, and particularly cybersecurity awareness training that includes

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Speaker 9: something around AI, because I mean we see it that

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Speaker 9: this growing, and we've talked about the grandparent scam and

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Speaker 9: all this stuff. Businesses are going to be increasingly targeted

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Speaker 9: with sophisticated attacks not only from a technical perspective with AI,

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Speaker 9: but focused on the humans. It's one of the points

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Speaker 9: in this article, you know, fooling human beings into doing

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Speaker 9: something they shouldn't do using the advanced capability to stuff.

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Speaker 9: So you know, we can help. If anyone wants some help,

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Speaker 9: call me up. I'm happy to talk about this. But

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Speaker 9: this is only going to get worse before it gets better,

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Speaker 9: because most people do not understand how capable this stuff

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Speaker 9: is in terms of creating things that seem unbelievably realistic. Sadly,

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Speaker 9: it's it's a thing, folks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't believe you really can't linked LinkedIn dot com.

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Speaker 1: Let's look for Dave Hadder. You'll find them, and you'll

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Speaker 1: find all the articles and information. One more, and there's

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Speaker 1: a feature on your Google Gmail five KRC the talk station.

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Speaker 1: It is six fifty one six two fifty five krcity

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Speaker 1: talk station. All right, what's the story on this Gmail

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Speaker 1: feature that you we need to turn off?

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Speaker 9: Dave hatter Well, Brian, you should know me well left

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Speaker 9: to know by an My initial response is this headline

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01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 9: rather than if you use Gmail, you're going to want

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01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 9: to turn off this one automatic setting asapp should stay

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01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 9: instead stop using Gmail.

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Speaker 1: But good fu.

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Speaker 9: Since it doesn't say that, let me explain. Now, this

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01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 9: article is a few months old, and again I'll post

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01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 9: the link. If you use Gmail and you plan to

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Speaker 9: keep using Gmail, I strongly recommend that you read this.

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Speaker 9: And this is one of the problems I have with

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Speaker 9: all of these big tech tech platforms. It's not just Google, right,

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01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 9: So many of these things are basically surveillance capitalism driven.

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01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 9: You are the product, not the customer. It's your data

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01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 9: that makes them quote free unquote for you. And when

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01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 9: you look at the ever increasing leaks of your data,

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01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 9: the ways this data is used in ways you would

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Speaker 9: not necessarily understand, and things like surveillance pricing. I just

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01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 9: wrote an op ed on this, which I'll have out there.

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01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 9: Maybe we talk about that next this week. The idea

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01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 9: that because there's so much data about you out there

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01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 9: and these companies are capturing it, they're selling it to

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01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 9: other companies and so forth, I'm able to look at

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01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 9: your profile and say, you know what, I think Brian

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01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 9: Thomas would pay more for this than Dave Hatter. Looks

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01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 9: like he's probably got more money, or maybe he's more desperate.

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01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 9: To get this thing, so even though we're on the

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Speaker 9: same website, you might see a higher price than me.

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Speaker 9: It's a real thing that's happening all the time. And

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Speaker 9: that's I bring that up because I think it's one

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Speaker 9: of the most concrete ways to help regular folks who

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01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 9: aren't tenfoil hat wearing nerds like me understand why you

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01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 9: should care about all your data because I still hear

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01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 9: why I don't care about that. You know, I don't

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01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 9: care about privacy. Second nothing to hide, and I'm going

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01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 9: to come back to this article, but I'm just trying

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01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 9: to set the stage for why you should care about

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Speaker 9: this and why I find this approach to things offensive.

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01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 9: So these companies will opt you into things. They roll

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01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 9: out some new feature that's beneficial for them. They turn

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01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 9: it on and you have to figure out how to

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Speaker 9: turn it off, and often you don't even know this

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01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 9: has been done. Secondarily even and if you do, it's buried.

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01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 9: Thirty six men use in and they tell you seven

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01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 9: times why you shouldn't turn it off. Dark patterns, trying

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01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 9: to convince you not to turn off something that is

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Speaker 9: beneficial to them. And so to the heart of this article,

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Speaker 9: Google Gemini that's their AI chat bout platform, Generative AILM

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01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 9: if you will. They have now incorporated it into Gmail

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01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 9: so it can train off all of your emails. So

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01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 9: if you've been using Gmail for a long time, you

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01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 9: might have tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of emails

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01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 9: in there. This thing is in there reading your emails,

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Speaker 9: learning about you, training purportedly to help you, right, because

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01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 9: it's going to help you schedule tasks and do things

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Speaker 9: and compose emails on your behalf and so forth. Right,

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Speaker 9: But I'm going to quote directly from the article for

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Speaker 9: around of time important message for everyone using Gmail. You've

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Speaker 9: been automatically opted in to allow Gmail to access all

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Speaker 9: your private messages and attachments to train AI models. Engineer

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Speaker 9: Dave Jones shared on X earlier this week. Again, this

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Speaker 9: was a couple of years ago, a couple months ago.

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01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 9: You have to manually turn off the quote smart features

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01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 9: in the setting menu in two locations. So first off,

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01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 9: you have to know that this has been turned on. Secondarily,

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01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 9: you have to know where to go, and then third

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01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 9: you have to go to two different places to turn

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Speaker 9: it off.

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Speaker 7: And again it's.

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Speaker 9: It's the fact that they if you have fully informed

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Speaker 9: consent and you agree to use the Gmail and you

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Speaker 9: agree to use this feature.

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Speaker 7: Have at it for an adult.

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Speaker 9: Do what you want. I don't use Gmail, and if

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Speaker 9: I did, I would turn this off.

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Speaker 1: There you go. That's the final point and we are

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Speaker 1: at a time. So heed his advice. Go to LinkedIn

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Speaker 1: dot com find Dave. How do you'll find these articles

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Speaker 1: and you can read the whys and the wearforce. Dave.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for what you do for here on the

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Speaker 1: morning show. My listeners. Thanks to Interest I your company

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Speaker 1: for sponsoring them, and another word for interest I Interest

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Speaker 1: dot com. Thank you, brother. Have a great weekend. Don't

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Speaker 1: go away. Corey Bowman up next today it's tough headlines

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Speaker 1: coming up at the It's seven oh six on a Friday,

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Speaker 1: and a very happy Friday to everyone. Appreciate tuning a

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Speaker 1: fifty five Parasey Morning Show. My name is Brian Thomas' host,

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Speaker 1: and I am happy to welcome back to the fifty

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Speaker 1: five Caarasey Morning Show. We gave it a shot, and

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Speaker 1: of course a election didn't work out real well, at

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Speaker 1: least from my perspective and this man's perspective. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: mayoral candidate former mayoral candidate Corey Bowman. Great to have

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Speaker 1: you on the show. Corey, love hearing from you.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Brian, thanks so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: How's your morning going going okay so far. I'm not

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Speaker 1: always happy. It's Friday. Always feeling a better mood on

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Speaker 1: Friday than any other day of the week. But that's

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Speaker 1: good for me, and I hope you are in a

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Speaker 1: happy mood this morning as well. And I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to put you on the spot, but

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Speaker 1: did you have an opportunity to listen to Todd Zenzer

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Speaker 1: on the program yesterday here in the morning Show The

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Speaker 1: Citizen Watchdog Todd Zenzer Former Inspector General Todd Zenzer.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I was going through a summary just a little too.

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Speaker 12: He posted something on Facebook about I always love hearing

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Speaker 12: from Todd. He's got such great insight on keeping people

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Speaker 12: accountable at city Hall.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well he's trying anyway, and I just thought, wow,

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Speaker 1: this is really problematic. They're getting draws from the railroad money.

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01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:17,879
Speaker 1: The board is handing over money because the city apparently

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Speaker 1: has identified projects, infrastructure projects that the money's supposed to

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Speaker 1: go to, but those projects aren't in place, you know,

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Speaker 1: they're not ready to start digging with the shovels. They're

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Speaker 1: not shovel ready to haven't even issued RFPs or anything

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Speaker 1: for them. So they get the money promising to do

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Speaker 1: some project down the road at some point, and according

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Speaker 1: to Todd Zenzer, they've placed that in an interest bearing account,

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Speaker 1: which interest is now going basically to the general fund

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Speaker 1: as he understands it, So that would allow them to

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Speaker 1: circumvent the existing infrastructure requirement in the railroad money distributions.

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Speaker 12: Well, that was the issue from the very start, you know,

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Speaker 12: I mean, we could keep beating a dead horse, which

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Speaker 12: is a lot of times what it feels like when

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Speaker 12: it comes to the railroad. But it was not a

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Speaker 12: good decision by the city to sell it. I even

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Speaker 12: talk with people that actually wrote the legislation for it

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Speaker 12: and all the deal for it, and some of them

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Speaker 12: are even you know, on the conservative side, and they

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Speaker 12: said their biggest fear was that there would be you know,

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Speaker 12: misappropriation of funds or shell games that would take place

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Speaker 12: in the city's general budget to be able to compensate

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Speaker 12: for it, and they said they tried to put as

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Speaker 12: much stipulation as they could in it, but little do

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Speaker 12: we know where Actually, I think we knew from the

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Speaker 12: very start that they would find some type of loophole

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Speaker 12: or something to be able to divert those funds to

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Speaker 12: whatever they wanted, and that's exactly what's happening.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think the Railroad Board owes an obligation to

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Speaker 1: the city taxpayers to file a lawsuit or otherwise try

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Speaker 1: to claw that money back. Listen, if the project's not ready,

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Speaker 1: you're not ready to start writing checks to contractors to

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Speaker 1: do something for the city evolving existing infrastructure, then you're

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Speaker 1: not going to get a distribution of money from the

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Speaker 1: railroad fund.

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Speaker 12: Well, you know, and that's another thing about it, too,

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Speaker 12: is that there's a couple of different aspects of this sale.

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Speaker 12: Number one is you know how it's being held. You know,

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Speaker 12: you have a railroad trust that you know, they're not

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Speaker 12: in charge.

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Speaker 6: Of spending the money, they're in charge of holding the money.

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Speaker 12: And the deal was that they're supposed to be putting

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Speaker 12: it into, you know, things that are going to see

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Speaker 12: a high return on investment. And then all these all

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Speaker 12: these influx of cash to the city is supposed to

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Speaker 12: come from the increase from those investments. Well, I've spoken

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Speaker 12: personally with some of these you know, trust members, and

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Speaker 12: a lot of it's going toward the same type of

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01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 12: projects that you're seeing the general Fund go to. When

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01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 12: it comes to nonprofits or forgivable loans that on the

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Speaker 12: books are seen as assets, they're seen as something that

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Speaker 12: you could collect interest on, but really a lot of

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Speaker 12: them end up becoming forgivable.

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Speaker 6: So that's one thing.

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Speaker 12: And then number two, we don't really have the infrastructure

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Speaker 12: in place to spend the money properly. We're seeing money

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01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 12: that's sitting in accounts or sitting money that's being unspent

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Speaker 12: because we don't have the contracts in place, we don't

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Speaker 12: have the proper relationship ships to be able to do it.

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Speaker 12: And then number three, you know, this is the kicker,

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01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:09,639
Speaker 12: is that the stipulations aren't supposed to go toward existing infrastructure. Well,

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Speaker 12: that category can be placed on a lot of different things,

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Speaker 12: like maybe a railroad car, or not railroad car, but

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01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 12: a streetcar downtown that has been very controversial. You can

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01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:26,639
Speaker 12: kind of justify anything as being in existing infrastructure if

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01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 12: it fits your basic interest. And that's the problem that

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01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:30,759
Speaker 12: we're seeing.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we are one of the problems.

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01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 12: Yeah, the time the railroad was sold, Yeah, the railroad

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01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 12: was sold to be able to fix our roads. You know,

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Speaker 12: I have a meme that I created from the ad

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Speaker 12: that the mayor was on. It says, fix our roads.

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01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 12: You know, we have holes, we have deteriorating infrastructure, and

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01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 12: that's what was being sold on it. But yet they're

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Speaker 12: diverting into other things.

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Speaker 1: And they're also seem to have a keen interest in

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01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 1: national politics in spite of the fact that they have

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01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 1: no control over national politics. I mean, this always bothers me.

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Speaker 1: I know, it's one of the things that former Vice

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Speaker 1: Maryal Canada Christopher Smithman is always on a tear on.

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Speaker 1: I'm done with resolutions, do the work of the city residents,

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Speaker 1: and quit focusing on national politics. Corey.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's exactly so.

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01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 12: I mean a lot of people see Cincinnati politically as

1324
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 12: a stepping stone, right, city Hall is just a chance

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01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 12: for you to kind of get in the spotlight and

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01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,759
Speaker 12: then you're kind of going to run for a higher office.

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01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 12: A lot of people say, oh, that's not the case

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01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 12: at all. We want to serve our city. But then

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Speaker 12: let's just look at this recent class of city council

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01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 12: members that just got sworn in within a couple months

1331
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 12: or within a month, two of them announced candidacy for

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01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 12: higher offices. One is trying to run for a county

1333
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 12: commissioner seat while she's supposed to be on city Hall

1334
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 12: for a city council and then the other one is

1335
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 12: running for I believe it's a state treasurer and so

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01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 12: you kind of see as a stepping stone.

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Speaker 6: So that's why you see a lot of these.

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Speaker 12: National issues take place at city Hall in Cincinnati, because

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01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 12: they're trying to practice for a bigger role. And I

1340
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 12: think that's what people are tired of. Fix our streets,

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01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 12: keep them safe, spend the money wisely. But you can't

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01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:16,679
Speaker 12: do that if you have political aspirations that are constantly

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01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 12: at the forefront of your priorities.

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Speaker 1: Well spending wisely. Boy, what is a real eye opening Yesterday?

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01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:24,599
Speaker 1: Apparently the city is still pursuing these zero carbon emissions

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01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 1: agenda item and they're putting all kinds of money. The

1347
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 1: federal government pulled the plug on the new solar array

1348
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 1: that they were supposed to pay for, so the city

1349
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:34,640
Speaker 1: is now on the hook if they want to move

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Speaker 1: forward with it, to the tune of ten plus million dollars.

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Speaker 1: They've already built one solar array. It's pretty distant from

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01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 1: the downtown Cincinnati area, and I don't not even sure

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01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 1: how that works, but gee, they're going to build another one.

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01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:48,640
Speaker 1: They don't have enough money to cover their budget. I

1355
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 1: think it's a thirty one million dollar budget shortfall, and

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01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:54,640
Speaker 1: yet they're still going to go after carbon neutrality with

1357
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 1: another solar farm. I just I can't carry I can't

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01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,879
Speaker 1: understand this. Don't theyppreciate the fact that no one around

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01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 1: us is pursuing zero carbon emissions and that we all

1360
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 1: breathe the same air. And they can fight this uphill

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01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 1: battle all day long. But as long as China and

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01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 1: Turkey and every other town city in this nation is

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01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 1: not pursuing zero carbon, that their efforts amount to literally nothing.

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Speaker 12: Corey, No, You're exactly right, because when it comes to

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01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 12: we think that we have this big impact on the

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01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 12: national stage, you know, I see that, we see it.

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01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 12: We have a resolution for a ceasefire in Israel.

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01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 10: We have a.

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01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 12: Resolution for all these national issues. But we're forgetting about

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01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 12: our current residents. You know, I have a novel idea.

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01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 12: We're in the West End where there's thousands of people

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01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:44,560
Speaker 12: that need jobs, that we need industry, that we need manufacturing,

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01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 12: we need future careers for our young people that.

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01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 6: Are in our city.

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01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 12: But yet we've neglected that, and all these major industries

1376
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 12: are moving outside of the city or they're just starting

1377
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 12: outside the city. You know, we see major announcements of

1378
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:03,799
Speaker 12: people Apple or Tesla or other companies that are opening

1379
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:07,600
Speaker 12: in outside areas like let's say Sharonville or Mason or

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Speaker 12: Northern Kentucky, and we don't see it in the downtown area.

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Speaker 12: We need these jobs in this industry in the downtown area,

1382
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,719
Speaker 12: but they're too focused on solar farms when it comes

1383
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 12: to that.

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01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a I just find it. I find it

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01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 1: impossible to explain or even understand. But you know, if

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01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 1: we weren't in such a financial train wreck in the city,

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01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 1: since any and our roads were all paved and clear,

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01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 1: and they can make a good argument for prioritizing the

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01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,680
Speaker 1: solar panels over literally everything else the residents of the

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Speaker 1: city want. Fine, but we're not even close to there,

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01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,679
Speaker 1: which makes the decision making in this regard batcrap insane.

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01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 1: My words, not Corey Bowman's. We'll bring Corey back, We'll

1393
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 1: talk about Yes, he's running for another office. He's also

1394
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 1: got a podcast and some other issues to talk about.

1395
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 1: Seventeeen fifty five KRCD Talk Station. Brian Thomas, the former

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01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 1: mayor old candidate Corey Bowman. He is now running for

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01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 1: yet another office, Corey Bowman, and you were running for

1398
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 1: another office? Which one is this? My friend?

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01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 12: Well, yesterday I just got the word that my petitions

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01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 12: were sufficient to be a member of the Hamilton County Central.

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01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 6: Committee for Cincinnati.

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01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 12: And so this is just this is just a step

1403
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 12: to get involved locally. You know, after last year's election,

1404
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 12: I think a lot of people were kind of asking, well,

1405
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 12: what's next, and there's a lot of things that were

1406
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 12: suggested to us.

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01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 6: But you know, we were in Cincinnati.

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01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,560
Speaker 12: We have our coffee shop, our church, our family, and

1409
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 12: after last year, you know, we still felt like we

1410
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:34,759
Speaker 12: need to be involved. And then after kind of looking

1411
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 12: at the process, I knew that there was a vacancy

1412
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 12: in our precinct executive is what it's called in our district,

1413
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:43,640
Speaker 12: and so we're in our precinct. And so this, in

1414
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 12: my mind is just a first step of still staying

1415
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 12: involved locally, putting our money where our mouth is and

1416
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 12: seeing impact and change.

1417
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 1: Well, it's wonderful. I'd like to think we'd hear more

1418
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 1: from the Hamilton kind of Republican party. Generally speaking, I

1419
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:00,600
Speaker 1: think the silence from it seems deafening of late. Do

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01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 1: you hope to accomplish, you know, like support for candidates

1421
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 1: out loud, and do you have any control over anybody

1422
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 1: some particular candidate getting money or anything like that. Corey Bowen, Well, the.

1423
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 6: Biggest thing with this, and I would encourage everybody.

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01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 12: I know that we're kind of past the deadline for

1425
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 12: you know, this year's running, but you know, we can,

1426
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 12: you know, talk all we want about what we're unhappy

1427
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 12: with with the city. You know, that's why I ran

1428
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 12: for mayor last year and a lot of people even

1429
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 12: you know, certain articles came out saying, well, this is

1430
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 12: a stepping stone.

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01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 6: For him if you're going to move on to this

1432
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 6: thing or that thing.

1433
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:34,799
Speaker 12: But overall, we love the city. Whatever the future holds,

1434
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 12: we want Cincinnati to be impacted for the better of it.

1435
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:40,639
Speaker 12: And this is a way that everybody can get involved.

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01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 12: You know, we do have a local party. There's many

1437
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:45,600
Speaker 12: candidates that end up running that not a lot of

1438
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 12: people know about, and so you can help in your

1439
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 12: own backyard. You can, you know, whether it be putting

1440
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:54,639
Speaker 12: out signs, whether it just motivating people or talking to people,

1441
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,639
Speaker 12: you know, I and even in the West End community

1442
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 12: where we have our coffee shop, you know, just one

1443
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:03,959
Speaker 12: conversation after another has shown people.

1444
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 6: That hey, we're here for the city.

1445
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 12: We're not here to copy and paste anything nationally, and

1446
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 12: we're here to for the betterment of our community. And

1447
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 12: once people see that, you know, you'd be surprised how

1448
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:15,600
Speaker 12: many people are willing to kind of change their perspective

1449
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 12: of how things.

1450
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 1: Are fair enough. Now, have you gotten any like progress

1451
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 1: toward getting the cameras that have been promised over in

1452
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 1: the West End for such a long time. I know

1453
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:29,719
Speaker 1: the money was allocated, and there was some recent rumblings

1454
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 1: that oh yeahy we're going to do it. We're going

1455
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 1: to do it this of course because we had some

1456
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 1: eleven year olds or ten year old shot in that

1457
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 1: park that's right down the street from your church and

1458
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 1: your business. And the promise was made again a couple

1459
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 1: of years ago after the first child was murdered. But

1460
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 1: here we are fast forward to now it still hasn't

1461
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 1: been done. I guess they're too busy thinking about a

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01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 1: solar panel farm. But any progress in your neighborhood, Corey, Well.

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01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 12: First thing I would want to say is that we

1464
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 12: have to keep this case at the forefront of our conversations.

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01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 12: You know, Queen Irie was a of an year old

1466
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 12: girl that got shot on New Year's Day in Laurel

1467
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 12: Park and there is still no progress when it comes

1468
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 12: to the investigation, you know, when it comes to the community,

1469
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:11,720
Speaker 12: or when it comes to people in the city, when

1470
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 12: it comes to the homicide investigative units of CPD, we

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01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 12: have to keep at the forefront of the priority. I

1472
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 12: know that there's kind of a mindset that takes place

1473
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 12: that a few days after or like a certain time

1474
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 12: frame after, it's kind of impossible. But we have over

1475
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 12: I think it's over five hundred cold cases in this

1476
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 12: area that have.

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01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 6: That have yet to be solved.

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01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 7: You know.

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01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 12: I think of people like Hope Dudley who her son

1480
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 12: was murdered. I think it was eighteen or nineteen years ago,

1481
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 12: and she's still fighting not only to find her son's killer,

1482
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 12: but to find others through crime Stoppers, See something, say something.

1483
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 12: These are valuable programs that we have to encourage. But

1484
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 12: on top of that, one of the biggest things that

1485
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 12: we're fighting for is cameras and proper surveillance in these areas.

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01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 12: A lot of people think that it's an infringement on

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01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:05,759
Speaker 12: a certain person's privacy. These aren't necessarily private property areas,

1488
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 12: these are CRC areas. And this is the problem off

1489
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 12: tiding is that the city is putting a lot of

1490
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 12: pressure on cameras right now. I don't know if I

1491
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 12: mentioned this last week, but I spoke with one of

1492
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 12: the contracts, one of the contractors that provides the cameras,

1493
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 12: and he said that he said, he's very frustrated right

1494
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 12: now because we're getting all this you know, pressure right now.

1495
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:30,599
Speaker 12: But this could have been done over the last two

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01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 12: years proactively to where we could have actually made difference.

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01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:36,639
Speaker 12: But now all we need one hundred cameras by this day.

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Speaker 7: We need this.

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Speaker 6: That's not how you run government. You run government proactively.

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Speaker 12: You find the problems ahead of time to prevent stuff

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Speaker 12: like this from happening, and then you can say all

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Speaker 12: you want, Oh well, the private property, you.

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Speaker 6: Got to get permission. This is my suggestion.

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Speaker 12: The hottest parts when it comes to these crime wars

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Speaker 12: and gain related wards, which a lot of people don't

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Speaker 12: think that that's the problem, but it is in Cincinnati

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01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:03,719
Speaker 12: when it comes to the youth violence, it's these public parks,

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Speaker 12: so Lawall Park, Grant Park, Fairview Park. A lot of

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Speaker 12: these parks that have playgrounds that kids are supposed to

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Speaker 12: be playing on end up being hotspots for gang related violence.

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Speaker 12: And this is something to where CRC has the land

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Speaker 12: and they're directly involved with the city government. They don't

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Speaker 12: need the permission like private property, they don't need to

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Speaker 12: go through all the red tape. So this is something

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Speaker 12: that needs to be done now, but also it needs

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Speaker 12: to be done proactively for the future to recognize these spots,

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Speaker 12: put surveillance and patrolling where.

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Speaker 6: It needs to go.

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Speaker 1: Corey Bowman, former Maryal candidate, now he's going to be

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Speaker 1: a precinct executive. That's great, core I'm glad to hear

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Speaker 1: about that, and I'll courage my listeners to find the

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Speaker 1: Corey Bowman podcast. How often are you producing a podcast

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Speaker 1: or how long is Joe Strecker producing your podcast? How often?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: Well, right now, we're doing it every week, and I'm

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Speaker 12: gonna actually need to talk with Joe about getting it

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Speaker 12: into our website and get into where it's easily.

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Speaker 6: Findable for other people as well. I know he's got

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Speaker 6: all the information.

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Speaker 12: Oh yeah, he's doing an amazing job like getting the

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Speaker 12: voice out or so many of these issues you guys

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Speaker 12: as well, and so we're excited for that. I hear

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Speaker 12: you still have a Congressman Davidson up next right, he's.

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Speaker 1: Waiting in the wings. Cory Bowman will be talking to him.

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Speaker 1: You're about the shut down being over.

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Speaker 12: Please tell him, I said, Hi. He's a great friend

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Speaker 12: of mine and he's doing great work on the national stage.

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Speaker 1: He sure is, Corey Bowman. Look forward to having you

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Speaker 1: back on again next week and we'll be looking for

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Speaker 1: the Corey Bowman podcast. Keep up the great work, my friend.

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Speaker 6: Hey, thank you so much.

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Speaker 7: Brown.

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Speaker 6: We'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 1: Have a great weekend seven twenty five. Right now, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Congressman Warren Davidson will be joining the Price seven thirty one,

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Speaker 1: fifty five krs detalk Station. Happy Friday, meet even extra special.

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Speaker 1: Happy welcome back to the fifty five casee Warning Show. Yeah,

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01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 1: you can say there are some good people elected to

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Speaker 1: hire office out there in terms of Congress, Congressman Warren

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Speaker 1: Davidson is one of them. Welcome back, my friend. I

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Speaker 1: love when you have when you come on the show.

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Speaker 7: Yeah me too, Brian. Nice to talk with you.

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Speaker 1: Hey, real quick here before we get to the version

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Speaker 1: of the shutdown in what's going to take to get

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Speaker 1: DHS funded. If anything, trump our x got rolled out

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Speaker 1: yesterday trump rx dot Gov, which is an opportunity for

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Speaker 1: at least around forty or so prescriptions. This most Favored

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Speaker 1: Nation thing that Trump's been negotiating directly with pharmaceutical companies.

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Speaker 1: Looks like it's going to result in some pretty substantial

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Speaker 1: savings for people who are eligible to use the trump

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Speaker 1: rx dot site.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. I mean it's a pretty good idea.

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Speaker 13: I think we've got bills in the House that either

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Speaker 13: have made it through or widely supported. We don't have

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Speaker 13: a path through the Senate for some of this stuff.

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Speaker 13: But Trump's executive action and frankly just leverage that he's

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Speaker 13: used with the insurers is getting this done and frankly

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Speaker 13: putting pressure on other countries too. And it's basically the

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Speaker 13: idea is like, yeah, if you're going to sell it

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Speaker 13: for eighty bucks in England, then you can sell it

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Speaker 13: for eighty bucks in America instead of eight hundred, right,

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Speaker 13: And so it's like if you want to blend it

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Speaker 13: and say it's three hundred or whatever.

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Speaker 7: But like, whatever your lowest price.

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Speaker 13: Is, you sell that to Americans if you're based in America,

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Speaker 13: and if you want to sell into America, you sell

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Speaker 13: it that way. So I think it's a huge opportunity

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Speaker 13: for health care, and frankly, it's an idea that makes

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Speaker 13: sense for a lot of things, Like you can have

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Speaker 13: a price, but you use this nonsense of oh, well,

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Speaker 13: you know, here's how you're paying.

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Speaker 7: It's a lower price.

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Speaker 13: Or it'd be like the gas station saying oh well,

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Speaker 13: you drove up in a Chevy, you got this price.

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Speaker 7: But if it's a Ford, it's a different price.

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Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't make any sense. But I guess

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Speaker 1: I sort of heard in your statement there that there's

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Speaker 1: bipartisan support to pass this legislatively, because right now, again

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Speaker 1: it's just individually negotiated agreements with pharmaceutical companies. But if

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Speaker 1: you could legislate this, then it would be I would

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Speaker 1: imagine a much broader chunk of the pharmaceutical market.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, and it is by parts of There are some

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Speaker 13: Repulicans that are like, oh, that's too much government. We

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Speaker 13: can't you know, tell the private sector what to do

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Speaker 13: and then there are some Democrats that are like, well

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Speaker 13: that's Trump, so I can't support it period.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: Well, or they want single payer where the government just

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Speaker 13: pays everything and there should be no price for anything

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Speaker 13: in health care. It should all be free. So but

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Speaker 13: I think there's enough people that we should be able

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Speaker 13: to get this into law. We just haven't moved it

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Speaker 13: as like a standalone piece of legislation.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, pivoting over to funding five of the

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Speaker 1: spending bills got to prove that part over DHS subject

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Speaker 1: to a continuing resolution, which allows DHS to continue what

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Speaker 1: it's o curring funding level until what the thirteenth of

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Speaker 1: this month, which is fast approaching. Democrats rolled out ten

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Speaker 1: some are describing as outrageous demands for ICE and Home

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Speaker 1: Department of Homeland Security. Have you read the ten demands,

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Speaker 1: Congressman Davidson.

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Speaker 13: Well, they keep adding to them, right, Originally they were

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Speaker 13: like three in the negotiation, and then there were ten,

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Speaker 13: and now I hear there's like thirty. And I think

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Speaker 13: that's what's going to happen, is that they don't want

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Speaker 13: to fund ICE, they want to defund ICE, and so

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Speaker 13: they're going to keep moving the goalpost.

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Speaker 7: Now, look, I trust the plan.

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Speaker 13: President Trump says he's got a plan, and partially I

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Speaker 13: think his plan is to say, guys are pretty dumb

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01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 13: when you said defund the police, if you want to

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Speaker 13: have something else blow up on you. I don't think

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Speaker 13: the public's gonna want you a defund ice because the

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Speaker 13: other thing when you defund DHS, I mean you defund

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Speaker 13: everything in DHS, so you'll shut the airports down, TSA.

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Speaker 13: We can say, oh, these are essential and try to

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Speaker 13: keep them running like we did in the previous Democrat

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Speaker 13: led shut down the coastguards funded with DHS. I mean,

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Speaker 13: there are a lot of things that are in homeland

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Speaker 13: security that we need and so I don't know. We'll

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Speaker 13: see how the negotiation plays out. I don't think the

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Speaker 13: Senate should have done this. I think they lost leverage.

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Speaker 13: They should have just passed it on a party line

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Speaker 13: vote and given okay, fine, That's what we did in

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Speaker 13: the House. We gave the Democrats a vote, we broke

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01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:40,640
Speaker 13: homeland security funding out and got to be recorded on that.

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Speaker 13: But then we blended the package together and sent it

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Speaker 13: to the Senate. And if they wanted to do that

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01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 13: in the Senate, they could have. My concern is that

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Speaker 13: the reason they didn't do that is maybe they didn't

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Speaker 13: even have all the Republicans on board with voting to

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Speaker 13: fund DHS.

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Speaker 7: So we'll see, we.

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Speaker 1: Will see and question mark as we can. Go to

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Speaker 1: a brief break here and bring back Congressman Warren Davidson.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people clamoring to incorporate the Save Act

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Speaker 1: into any Department of Homeland Security funding. I imagine that

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Speaker 1: Democrats don't like that. We'll hear if that's a possibility.

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Speaker 1: T leave reading from Congressman Davidson. Plus new tax rules,

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Speaker 1: First off, you c'd krc E Talk Station sety nine

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Speaker 1: fifty five krc DE Talk Station. Congressman Warren Davidson joining

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Speaker 1: the program this morning, going through some of the issues

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Speaker 1: before we move over away from Department of Homeland and

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Speaker 1: Security funding. I know a lot of people are clamoring

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Speaker 1: to get the Save Act in the funding bills. So

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Speaker 1: if the Democrats are asking they have their list of demands.

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Speaker 1: Republican demands include hey, how about the Save Act, which

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Speaker 1: Congressman Davidson. I think the vast majority of people really

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Speaker 1: embrace the concept of a photo identification to vote intellections.

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Speaker 1: The only people to see them clamoring against that are Democrats.

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Speaker 1: And the only thing I can come up with a logical,

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01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 1: reasonable explanation for that is that they want it to

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Speaker 1: be easy for people who aren't lawfully allowed to vote

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Speaker 1: to vote. Congressman Davidson, your take.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean it's a it's an eighty twenty issue,

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Speaker 13: probably a ninety ten issue in our neck of the woods.

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Speaker 13: It's the law in Ohio, it's not the law around

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Speaker 13: the country. And frankly, the only people that are opposed

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01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 13: want to cheat in elections. I mean, they might not

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Speaker 13: want to cheat personally, but they certainly want to make

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Speaker 13: it easy to cheat. And you know, I don't know

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Speaker 13: how you can say you have a secure, honest election

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01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 13: when you can't even say who voted. So you know,

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Speaker 13: this is this is a crazy idea that we're debiding.

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Speaker 13: And the other thing is, well, there are no illegals

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Speaker 13: voting in elections, and at the same time, you know,

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Speaker 13: it's unjust to require you to prove you're a citizen. Right, Okay,

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Speaker 13: well it affect nobody if we do. If you're right,

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Speaker 13: and no illegals vote in elections, you know that's that's

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Speaker 13: not true. But but either way, you know, we've had

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Speaker 13: to we've had to push laws to say because they

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Speaker 13: put motor voter voter ID they have, they're registering when

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Speaker 13: you when you get a license. They're doing nothing to

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Speaker 13: get licenses, including commercial driver's licenses in some states. And

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Speaker 13: then they're supposed to screen at the like security state's

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01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:16,200
Speaker 13: supposed to screen. Is this person lawfully allowed to register

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Speaker 13: a vote? But in some states they don't do that,

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Speaker 13: and so you have to go after it out there

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01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 13: and purge those roles.

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01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 1: Well, under federal law, immigrant illegal immigrants are not allowed

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Speaker 1: to vote. I mean, that's a black and white issue,

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Speaker 1: isn't it. So this was Yeah, this is a mechanism

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01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:35,760
Speaker 1: to enforce federal law. You have to have to ask

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01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 1: for ID or otherwise verify residency status. Otherwise they're not

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Speaker 1: eligible to vote. Because I mean, that's a critical component,

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Speaker 1: isn't it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: I mean, and and look, we need to get this

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01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 13: done soon because frankly, it needs to apply to every

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01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:52,200
Speaker 13: single federal election, and in time is of the essence

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01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 13: here we see, you know, all kinds of things going

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01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 13: on to try to shape the outcomes of these elections,

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01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:01,559
Speaker 13: and you know, you need to take illegal things off

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Speaker 13: the table, and by all means, go work the votes,

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Speaker 13: not doors, call people, send messages, whatever that speech. But

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Speaker 13: what you can't do is, you know you've got places

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Speaker 13: where they're.

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Speaker 7: Doing the mail in ballots.

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Speaker 13: This is the other thing that needs to be part

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Speaker 13: of the Save of America Act is limiting the kinds

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Speaker 13: of mail in voting that's going on. So like, yeah,

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Speaker 13: if you're legitimately going to be out of town or

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Speaker 13: you're in the military, these are the reasons we do

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Speaker 13: absentee voting. But in some states they're literally mailing live

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Speaker 13: ballots to people and not just to hey, would you

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Speaker 13: like or soliciting absentee voting, and they're putting this out

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Speaker 13: to places that have like dozens or in some cases

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Speaker 13: even hundreds of people at the same address. So, you know,

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Speaker 13: common sense things like limiting mail in voting, and frankly,

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Speaker 13: when the votes are counted, all these kinds of things,

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Speaker 13: there's so many common sense reforms at the federal level.

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Speaker 13: And the great thing is Ohio has done a lot

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Speaker 13: of these things. We had a problem at a election,

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Speaker 13: you know, four in January sixth of five. We had

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Speaker 13: people object to the results in Ohio's election, and of

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01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 13: course they didn't you know, say that was crazy or anything.

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Speaker 13: You know, we disagreed and they called the votes and

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01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:18,519
Speaker 13: everything went smoothly. But we fixed our election since then

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Speaker 13: and had to go to the Supreme Court to do it.

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Speaker 13: I mean, John Houstad when he was Secureitor of State

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01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:25,080
Speaker 13: had to sue and win in the Supreme Court just

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01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 13: to take dead people off the voter.

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Speaker 1: Rolls in a while, isn't that It's just absolutely crazy

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Speaker 1: when you put it that way. Congressman Davidson, well, call

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Speaker 1: me jaded and cinecal I doubt it's going to be

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Speaker 1: part of the DHS. But this can advance as a

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01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:38,640
Speaker 1: standalone bill on its own because it's already been through

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Speaker 1: the House and previously approve right.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and look, we've updated that bill.

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Speaker 13: So we'll probably vote on it this next week in

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01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:51,439
Speaker 13: the House and get it to the Senate with fresh language.

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01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 13: And the senate's talking about a standing filibuster. So this

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01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 13: isn't like a new thing. It doesn't break the path

1748
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Speaker 13: that they've been doing with the quote sixty v. There's

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01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:03,479
Speaker 13: another means that you can do to get a vote

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Speaker 13: without what they call cloture, which is sixty votes, which

1751
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:09,920
Speaker 13: is you know, how they agree to have debate. The

1752
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 13: other thing you can do is exhaust every person who speaks.

1753
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:15,679
Speaker 13: You can only speak two times on a given subject,

1754
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:17,680
Speaker 13: but you can speak for as long as you want,

1755
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:20,160
Speaker 13: you know, So like mister Smith goes to Washington, he

1756
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:23,400
Speaker 13: had no allies, so he held the floor and then

1757
01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:27,559
Speaker 13: you know, eventually, you know, gave up, right, And that's

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Speaker 13: I don't want to spoil the inning for anybody hadn't seen.

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Speaker 7: It's a good show. Mister Smith goes to Washington. But

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Speaker 7: that is still the rule in the Senate.

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Speaker 13: It just isn't used because it's easier to say, well,

1762
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:42,519
Speaker 13: you don't have sixty votes, and they never even call

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01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:43,839
Speaker 13: the votes a lot of times.

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, well, I'd like to see it happen, because again,

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Speaker 1: as you point out, this really is an eighty twenty issue.

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Speaker 1: People understand the need for a photo ID. How else

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01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:55,200
Speaker 1: can you ensure the integrity of the election, And we

1768
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Speaker 1: just happen to be the only what developed country in

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01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:00,839
Speaker 1: the world that does not have a photo ID requirement.

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Speaker 1: I mean everybody else woke up to this.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean even the French are onder this right,

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01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:09,439
Speaker 13: and they count their election results in a single day.

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Speaker 7: I mean it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: That's good. We'll leave on that note and bring it

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01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 1: back to talk about the new tax rule and great,

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01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:18,640
Speaker 1: great things happen in the state of Ohio. We've got

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01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:20,559
Speaker 1: to stay to be doing this all a great favor.

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Speaker 1: You can find him on my blog page fifty five

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Speaker 1: Charsey dot com. Thank you, Tiffany Green all the other

1780
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:28,639
Speaker 1: police officers for what you do. Congressman Warren Davidson pivoting

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01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 1: back over to let's just start with this new manufacturing

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Speaker 1: and innovation hub. This is a great thing that's happening

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Speaker 1: up in Hamilton.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's tremendous.

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Speaker 13: You've got really the first polytechnic school in Ohio, and

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01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:46,760
Speaker 13: by that, you know, you've got high school kids, you've

1787
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:50,559
Speaker 13: got a path for like a community college degree, you've

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01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 13: got path for a four year degree, and you've got

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01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:57,200
Speaker 13: adult education for just short term things. So all this

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01:34:57,479 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 13: is right there in Hamilton, and watch the kind of

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01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:03,879
Speaker 13: collaboration that's taken years to come together. I just kudos

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01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 13: to the City of Hamilton, Butler Tech. John Graff was

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01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:13,320
Speaker 13: a longtime superintendent for Butler Tech. Joshua Smith was a

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01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:17,720
Speaker 13: longtime leader for economic development in Hamilton, And you could

1795
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:19,720
Speaker 13: you could spend the rest of the program naming off

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01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:22,880
Speaker 13: you know, dozens of people that really just put full

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01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:26,880
Speaker 13: effort into this. Doctor Crawford leading Miami, getting Miami to

1798
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:29,120
Speaker 13: make this commitment. I mean it's going to be people

1799
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:31,240
Speaker 13: from all over the country are coming there to check

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Speaker 13: this thing out, and it's going to be a tremendous

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Speaker 13: game changer for the industry.

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Speaker 1: So this will involve training people for manufacturing jobs.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, a whole host of them.

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Speaker 13: And you know, before I was in Congress, I used

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Speaker 13: to own manufacturing companies. I was one time the chairman

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Speaker 13: of the Dayton Region Manufacturers Association. We had plants in

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Speaker 13: Troy and plants in Fairfield, We had apprenticeship programs, and

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Speaker 13: we never even dreamt of having the kind of capability

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01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:01,240
Speaker 13: out of some of our community colleges or joint vocational

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01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 13: schools things like Butler Tech, that you have now in

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01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:08,040
Speaker 13: this So you have state of the art technology in

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01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:09,960
Speaker 13: the jobs. I mean, I think the perception in the

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01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 13: public thanks to micro talking about dirty jobs and so

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Speaker 13: many other people. There are so many good jobs and

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01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:18,160
Speaker 13: I love them in manufacturing. So you can go get

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01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:21,320
Speaker 13: a PhD advanced research in manufacturing. If you want to

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01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:23,080
Speaker 13: be an accountant, don't be a tax accountant, be a

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Speaker 13: cost account and figure out what it takes to make things,

1819
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:27,720
Speaker 13: or if you just like I was talking to my

1820
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:31,000
Speaker 13: son over Thanksgiving and catching up on his buddies, and

1821
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:32,599
Speaker 13: he said, well, you know, the guy who's probably making

1822
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:34,880
Speaker 13: the most out of all of us went to welding

1823
01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:37,719
Speaker 13: school for nine months. Now, where's the line of tank plant.

1824
01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:40,160
Speaker 13: These guys are working all the overtime he wants. He's

1825
01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:43,000
Speaker 13: making well into the six figures as a welder.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought up welding. I have always been

1827
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Speaker 1: fascinated by welding. I had a litigation in Chicago involved welding,

1828
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:50,960
Speaker 1: and when I learned about it, it's like I got

1829
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Speaker 1: to learn how to weld. This is amazing. Those jobs

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01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:56,880
Speaker 1: pay good money and there's a lot of them out there.

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Speaker 1: From everything I've heard of manufacturing, Well, you mentioned the

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01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:03,280
Speaker 1: adult education is going to be offered of this manufacturing

1833
01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:06,640
Speaker 1: innovation hub. Perfect timing given the new work requirement for

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01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 1: receiving able body people currently on social welfare benefits coreer.

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Speaker 7: That's been my view. Yeah, I mean we changed all

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Speaker 7: this back with the Big Beautiful Bill on July fourth.

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Speaker 13: And you know, back in the nineties, this was bipartisan

1838
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:24,160
Speaker 13: when Bill Clinton did the deal with new Gendrich and

1839
01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:25,960
Speaker 13: you said, you know, just like you would expect in

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01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 13: your own friends or family, you'll help someone out in need.

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Speaker 7: But after a while you're saying you need a job, right,

1842
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:32,000
Speaker 7: or at least go to school or.

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01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:35,160
Speaker 13: Volunteer or something. Well, that went away when Obama was

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01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:38,320
Speaker 13: president in eight oh nine. So instead of suspending all

1845
01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:40,240
Speaker 13: the mandate for a little while because you know, we

1846
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:43,040
Speaker 13: had a big recession, they just removed it. And it's

1847
01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:45,960
Speaker 13: been hyper partisan ever since to get this done. We

1848
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:48,599
Speaker 13: passed it in the Big Beautiful Bill, and they would say, oh,

1849
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:50,759
Speaker 13: all these people are going to lose their food stamps

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01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:52,560
Speaker 13: or they're going to lose their health care. I'm like,

1851
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:54,439
Speaker 13: I really don't think so. I think that if the

1852
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:57,840
Speaker 13: alternative is you really need this money, you're probably going

1853
01:37:57,920 --> 01:37:59,760
Speaker 13: to go to school or volunteer or get a job.

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01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:02,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I think that's what's going to happen.

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01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:04,560
Speaker 13: And now we've got this resource where if you just

1856
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 13: need more skills, you can do it.

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01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:06,080
Speaker 8: Now.

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01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:08,800
Speaker 13: The hard thing is is if you've got three generations

1859
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:10,400
Speaker 13: of people that don't have a work ethic. You got

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01:38:10,439 --> 01:38:11,760
Speaker 13: to be twenty five or thirty and don't have a

1861
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:14,720
Speaker 13: work ethic, it's gonna be hard to fix those people. Yeah,

1862
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:17,639
Speaker 13: But if you're willing to do something to help yourself,

1863
01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:20,519
Speaker 13: and you have somebody in your life that'll help drive

1864
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:24,600
Speaker 13: you and motivate you to do it, then you know

1865
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:26,519
Speaker 13: we've got a great resource there in Hamilton.

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Speaker 1: Now, yes, amen. My family's philosophy and something that I

1867
01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:32,560
Speaker 1: tried to you know, pound into my children's head. You

1868
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 1: owe society and obligation to at least be able to

1869
01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:38,720
Speaker 1: take care of yourself, unless you're just not able to,

1870
01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:40,880
Speaker 1: in which case that's why we have programs. But if

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01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:43,160
Speaker 1: you're capable of it, you owe it to society. It's

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01:38:43,240 --> 01:38:45,479
Speaker 1: kind of like it takes a village, Congressman Davidson. If

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01:38:45,479 --> 01:38:47,599
Speaker 1: you're part of the village, don't lay around in your butt.

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Speaker 1: If you're capable of getting up and participating. It seems

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01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:52,679
Speaker 1: like a simple philosophy that doesn't bear a political stripe,

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01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:55,680
Speaker 1: but we know where we are. Congressman Davidson. Finally, how

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01:38:55,720 --> 01:38:58,320
Speaker 1: about the new taxtules. Apparently we're looking at bigger refunds

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Speaker 1: this year.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean that's another big thing. You know, people

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01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:03,120
Speaker 7: forget that.

1881
01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:06,040
Speaker 13: The Big Beautiful Bill was also one of the core

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01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:09,880
Speaker 13: components of it was called the Working Families Task Cuts Act,

1883
01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:11,960
Speaker 13: and you know, of course it locked in rates that

1884
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:15,560
Speaker 13: were already there that we're going to go up significantly

1885
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:18,160
Speaker 13: if we didn't pass the law and make them permanent.

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01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:20,800
Speaker 13: But it added new things like you know, a six

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01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:25,400
Speaker 13: thousand dollars deduction for Social Security, like no tax on overtime,

1888
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:29,799
Speaker 13: no tax on tips for businesses that you know, restored

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01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:32,920
Speaker 13: things that did expire, like being able to expense research

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01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:35,679
Speaker 13: and development and capital expenditures and interest.

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Speaker 7: So these things are huge.

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Speaker 13: We think that's going to start kicking in with the

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Speaker 13: new withholdings for the year, and it's going to drive

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Speaker 13: some of the investment that's going to keep our growth

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Speaker 13: rate high.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you know, at a four percent growth.

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Speaker 13: Rate projection for the year, and we got to do

1898
01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:53,439
Speaker 13: other things to keep that happening, but you know, the

1899
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Speaker 13: work has been done, and I think President Trump's led

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Speaker 13: a strong path to growth for the economy.

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Speaker 1: And thanks to folks like you, we are on path

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Speaker 1: to growth growth. Congressman Warren Davidson, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for spending time with my listeners and me. As always,

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Speaker 1: I look forward to having you on the show and

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Speaker 1: I look forward to talking with you again. Best to

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Speaker 1: health you and your loved ones, and again, keep up

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Speaker 1: Alex and Tim from Harvard Seniors all in studio to

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Speaker 1: talk about an amazing advancement with this heart for seniors

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Speaker 1: alert response technology. Welcome folks, it's great to have you

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Speaker 1: in the studio and thanks for joining us this morning.

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Speaker 1: Thank you microphone up in front of your face. There

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Speaker 1: no one's going to be able to hear. Patty will

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Speaker 1: always start with you bubbly and happy you always are,

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Speaker 1: and I know you love what you're doing and helping

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Speaker 1: seniors out. You showed me the new smart watch. Yes

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Speaker 1: that this is ready to go.

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Speaker 4: We are ready to go.

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Speaker 14: If your listeners are interested by the end of this,

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Speaker 14: they just need to call and we'll have them set

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Speaker 14: up in a matter of no time at home. So

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Speaker 14: obviously we'll give the number and everything later, but yeah,

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Speaker 14: we will. We have been testing in home with our

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Speaker 14: smart watch and our technology app on Real Live Seniors.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're going to have some great examples of that

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Speaker 1: to give the real world.

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Speaker 14: Real world history experience. So we'll just take one person

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Speaker 14: to give an example. This is a seventy year old

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Speaker 14: man lives independently.

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Speaker 1: Let's make sure my listeners. So what we're talking about

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Speaker 1: here is your typical sort of Apple smart watch looking.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very simple.

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Speaker 1: And then you have an app YEP that lives on

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Speaker 1: the phone, on the loved one's phone. The people who

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Speaker 1: are doing the monitoring, the people look for mom or dad.

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Speaker 1: All right, correct, the two pieces.

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Speaker 14: And if the senior, which is like my dad, has

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Speaker 14: a flip phone and doesn't have a phone, we provide

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Speaker 14: the phone.

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Speaker 4: Oh oh okay, yes, so we will.

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Speaker 14: Provide the phone and the watch together to live in

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Speaker 14: the house with them if that's what they need, and

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Speaker 14: travel with.

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Speaker 1: So, if you're not talking about it, maybe dementia Alzheimer's

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Speaker 1: patient that a senior themselves will get this information and

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Speaker 1: can use it to their own advantage. Correct, Oh, that's great.

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Speaker 4: Correct.

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Speaker 14: So this particular individual, seventy year old man, his children

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Speaker 14: live out of town. They're in Columbus and Cleveland, but

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Speaker 14: he lives here independently with his wife. He kept falling

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Speaker 14: and he didn't know why he was falling. Went to

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Speaker 14: the doctor, did his vitals, put him on some meds,

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Speaker 14: thinking that it was just maybe blood pressure related whatever

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Speaker 14: they can maybe right comes home, still falls family reaches

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Speaker 14: out to us, and we said, fine, let's put our

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Speaker 14: technology on him.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 14: Within the first three days we started noticing patterns. And

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Speaker 14: the patterns were his heart rate at night was dropping

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Speaker 14: to thirty three, oh my word, or in the morning

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Speaker 14: it was dropping to thirty three. So we were getting

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Speaker 14: ranges for example, of anywhere from and I'll show you

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Speaker 14: these high lows here if you can just look. We

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Speaker 14: were getting ranges from thirty two to eighty seven, thirty

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Speaker 14: two to one hundred and three. Oh right, So that's

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Speaker 14: throughout the day, twenty four hours a day, we're getting

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Speaker 14: we're pulling data in not just on heart rates fluctuation, right,

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Speaker 14: not just on heart rate, but on pulse. We're also

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Speaker 14: doing HRV. We are also doing two feet on the

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Speaker 14: ground symmetry, we're doing walking asymmetry, we're doing a FIB

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Speaker 14: and we're now doing a.

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Speaker 4: Regular heartbeat rhythm.

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Speaker 14: All of that capture, all of that captured in our

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Speaker 14: technology is amazing. So here's what happened, Brian, and then

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Speaker 14: I'll let our chief technology take over. So after really

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Speaker 14: looking at him, we started seeing these patterns, right, and

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Speaker 14: these clusters that were just pretty incredible, and we were like, okay,

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Speaker 14: once most technology can't combine. You just get a heart

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Speaker 14: rate reading or you get a pulse sox reading. Nothing

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Speaker 14: ever combines it in a cluster medical fashion.

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Speaker 1: Right, so we can get at that moment in time,

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Speaker 1: you've got heart rate, pulse socks and all the other

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Speaker 1: day real time and.

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Speaker 4: Real time twenty four to seven.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 4: So we then took his meds and we said, can

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Speaker 4: you give us the meds?

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Speaker 14: We threw him into a program we have where it's

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Speaker 14: looked at and analyzed really really deep. And three of

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Speaker 14: the meds he was on side effects, low heart rate,

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Speaker 14: Oh wow, okay, And I.

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Speaker 1: Mean the traditional pharmacy days, the pharmacist was the one

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Speaker 1: that was supposed to identify the interaction between meds. I

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Speaker 1: guess that doesn't happen anymore.

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Speaker 14: No, no, And so we were able to see, unlike

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Speaker 14: somebody just going to the doctor getting their vitals. Once

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Speaker 14: the doctor prescribes, they leave, they don't see him for

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Speaker 14: another six months, right, we were able to see the

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Speaker 14: time correlations between when he took his meds versus things

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Speaker 14: that were happening. So let's just take from this perspective

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Speaker 14: as far as the client was concerned, the patient, the

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Speaker 14: seventy year old, he now is getting alerted. Okay, alert

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Speaker 14: pops up on his phone and it says abnormal low

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Speaker 14: oxygen real time, real time, So he knows his oxygen

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Speaker 14: level has dropped. He knows that he's had a heart

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Speaker 14: rate issue. The family is getting this also at the

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Speaker 14: same time.

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Speaker 1: Oh, okay, there's an acknowledge button.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you got to.

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Speaker 14: If you don't acknowledge, it's going to keep going because

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Speaker 14: they want the family member to know and they want

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Speaker 14: him to know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And then I imagine there are steps he has

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Speaker 1: been told to take. If you are having a low

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Speaker 1: pulse sim you get.

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Speaker 14: An alert that means stay put right until you see

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Speaker 14: that it's gone back up. Right, so we prevent falls,

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Speaker 14: or be careful when you're standing up so that you

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Speaker 14: really can kind of understand.

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Speaker 1: Your walker there, correct, slowly correct.

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Speaker 14: But what takes this to a whole different level, okay,

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Speaker 14: is the reporting. So how many people go to their

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Speaker 14: doctor and don't really know what to say, or they

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Speaker 14: kind of say something and then they are like, well,

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Speaker 14: forget what to say in that category, right, forget what

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Speaker 14: to say? So right here you have a little report calculator, Right,

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Speaker 14: you can hit report, you can say share pdf. You

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Speaker 14: can put your name on it or not put your

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Speaker 14: name on it if you want. And guess what, all

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Speaker 14: of a sudden you get a complete detailed report, hour

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Speaker 14: by hour.

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Speaker 1: Would you doctor just print it out and.

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Speaker 4: Hand it to your doctor one day, four hours. You

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Speaker 4: can do seven day patterns.

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Speaker 1: A month, or the doctor could say, hey, can you

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Speaker 1: give me this.

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Speaker 15: Correct And we've had instances where people went into the

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Speaker 15: doctor and they showed the report that the doctor was amazed,

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Speaker 15: like how do you I've never seen someone come with

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Speaker 15: that much data.

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Speaker 3: The doctor's amazed.

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Speaker 4: The doctor's like, where'd you get that? I know, like,

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Speaker 4: how do you have so much?

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Speaker 14: So then we actually got feedback from the doctors. So

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Speaker 14: the cardiologists were saying, well, okay, heart rate data, oxygen data,

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Speaker 14: that's all good, but we like to see clusters. We

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Speaker 14: like to see actual like together clusters. We like to

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Speaker 14: see variability, frequency and clusters together. We were like, okay,

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Speaker 14: that's fine, so there it is. There it is, so

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Speaker 14: our chief technology officer here was able to actually take

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Speaker 14: it and do exactly what the doctor wants to see.

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Speaker 4: That's out, and it's out. You just click it.

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Speaker 1: You just did give out because you didn't identify Alex

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Speaker 1: as a chief technology maps and all. Nice work. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, that's a game changer.

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Speaker 4: Game changer, I mean absolutely, we really nothing like it

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Speaker 4: on the mark.

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Speaker 15: We've built an ecosystem where you know, we can take

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Speaker 15: any wearable device that's in the market and integrate it

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Speaker 15: into the into the system.

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Speaker 1: So someone's got the Apple phone or the other kind

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Speaker 1: of a Google phone, whatever the hell's out there. I

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Speaker 1: don't own one. See Look, but they don't have to

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Speaker 1: get the separate phone. They can use the one they've got, correct, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh well done.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but if they don't have one, we want to

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Speaker 4: provide you. That's what we are. We're a five and one.

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Speaker 14: That that we I mean most seniors, right, but think

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Speaker 14: about it for us right as Sandwich generation. Our parents

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Speaker 14: right are in their eighties, a lot of us some

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Speaker 14: of them are in their sixties seventies. But even I

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Speaker 14: am wearing it like I'm actually wearing the technology as well.

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Speaker 14: I'm a senior. I'm gonna admit it. I'm senior now.

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Speaker 4: My age, we're seniors though, Brian.

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Speaker 1: Is that why I got my ARP solicitation?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 14: And you know quite honestly, Friday, Patty, Sorry, sorry, that's okay,

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Speaker 14: but you know it's important now, it's important even for

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Speaker 14: us to know, right from a longevity perspective, like let's

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Speaker 14: catch something early, right so we can be proactive. But

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Speaker 14: for my my parent who's four hours away, right.

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Speaker 1: You could be watching them right there, right there, you're

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Speaker 1: right next.

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Speaker 14: And my mom is able to like physically see it

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Speaker 14: and know it and understand what's happening as well.

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Speaker 4: So we're so excited, we're ready to go.

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Speaker 14: Like if anybody has someone at home far away, local.

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Speaker 14: You're a senior yourself, and you're kind of like, man,

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Speaker 14: I'm I'm not feeling well. I haven't been feeling well.

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Speaker 14: Not sure why I'm not feeling well. And you go

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Speaker 14: to the doctor and they take your your vitals and

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Speaker 14: then you leave with medication, and then you're still not

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Speaker 14: feeling well. Well, it's probably somewhere hidden in the data.

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Speaker 14: It is, it's hidden in the data.

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Speaker 1: So and she's listening right now, I'm thinking about my mom,

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Speaker 1: you know, And she pointed out, note she's not eighty six,

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Speaker 1: she's eighty six and a half. She even joked about

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Speaker 1: this yesterday. She's remember when you were like five years

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Speaker 1: old and half years met a whole lot because that

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Speaker 1: starts meaning a whole lot to me. So she's I'm

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Speaker 1: mey six and a half, but I don't view her.

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Speaker 1: She's independent. She could still capable of driving, manages her

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Speaker 1: own limitations to a great degree, and that's wonderful. But

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Speaker 1: sounds to me like she'd be a great person to

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Speaker 1: got an ideal Canada for something like that.

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Speaker 14: We would love to have her on it, absolutely love

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Speaker 14: to have her on because it's peace of mind.

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Speaker 4: Is a piece of mind that's mine for me.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, and it's empowerment. Right, you see your own health data, right,

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Speaker 15: you be able to be proactive and that allows you

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Speaker 15: as a senior to stay at home as long as

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Speaker 15: possible because ultimately you want to stay away from the

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Speaker 15: nursing home.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's the enjoy independent living. Yes, there are

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Speaker 1: some fantastic senior facilities that have activities every single hour

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Speaker 1: of every single day. And I can see the benefit

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Speaker 1: of wanting to be in that environment with people your age,

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Speaker 1: maybe make new friends, but always have something to do.

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Speaker 1: But you know, even though you are free and independent,

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Speaker 1: but you know this, this data is just is great

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Speaker 1: regardless of living circumstance. I would argue, well, we'll bring

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Speaker 1: back Heart for Seniors here at a moment with Patty,

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Speaker 1: Tim and Alex his Heart the Number four Seniors dot Org.

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Speaker 1: You can check out the technology yourself. We'll learn about

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Speaker 1: how you can acquire it. Stick around, be right back

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Speaker 1: a rc Deep Talk Station eight twenty fifty five KRCD

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Speaker 1: talk station harnessing technology to improve the quality of life

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Speaker 1: and even save lives if you think about it, because

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Speaker 1: a fall could equal a broken him can equal death.

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Speaker 1: When we're talking about the senior community, and that's what

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Speaker 1: it's all about with Heart the Number four Seniors dot org.

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Speaker 1: Find them online talking about this brand new rollout of

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Speaker 1: the smart device which they had before. So you got

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Speaker 1: the smart watch, even if you own one already. According

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Speaker 1: to the tech experts sitting in the room here Alex

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Speaker 1: at Heart for Seniors, you can hook that watch up

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Speaker 1: to this new technology. So you got the app on

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Speaker 1: your phone, Your loved ones have the app on your phone,

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Speaker 1: So mom's taking care of yourself at home. You immediately

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Speaker 1: know what the vitals are and a whole host of vitals.

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Speaker 1: You talked about, Patty, the way they cluster the data.

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Speaker 1: You can see trends. It's all right there. Your doctors

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Speaker 1: can rely on this information making proper diagnosis. This is

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Speaker 1: nothing but great rolled up. Now. The only problem is

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Speaker 1: it's Friday. Tech Friday is on Friday, and Dave Hatter

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Speaker 1: and I have come to an agreement. Apps are bad

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Speaker 1: for the most part. They're hoovering up data. So pivoting

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Speaker 1: over to Alex, I asked you off air, have you

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Speaker 1: thought about privacy and security because this is really this

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Speaker 1: is confidential information.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, and then this is this is so you know,

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Speaker 15: we're getting into the hippo territory, yes, sir, and we

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Speaker 15: you know, we take care of the data. The data

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Speaker 15: is encrypted, it is living on a person's device. We

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Speaker 15: get some data in the cloud, but it is de identified.

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Speaker 1: De identified meaning they don't know anybody's name associated with

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Speaker 1: that data.

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Speaker 15: We're not looking to monetize this. You are using that

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Speaker 15: data to train our algorithms so we can pick up

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Speaker 15: on those patterns, make it better, make it better, identify

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Speaker 15: a potential health issue, so we can send out an

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Speaker 15: alert to the caregiver or to the person themselves, and

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Speaker 15: so they can take action.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's the key and in terms of you know,

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Speaker 1: someone's out there going, oh my god, this is great,

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Speaker 1: but mom or dad, they struggle with technology. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're not going to know how to do this. They're

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Speaker 1: not even know how to install the app on their phone.

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Speaker 1: And you know they're a little distant from me. How

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Speaker 1: am I going to do this? That is where Tim

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Speaker 1: comes in the field texts.

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Speaker 16: Right, we do the We do the installs ourselves before

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Speaker 16: we send the equipment out, or I take it out

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Speaker 16: myself and do the install so the apps are installed.

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Speaker 16: Most of the most of the work that goes into

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Speaker 16: doing the installs. You know, it's done right there with

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Speaker 16: the person on hand, right, get the watch on them,

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Speaker 16: show them how the data comes through, and it's set

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Speaker 16: up in their home and that's it.

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Speaker 4: Oh, they the watch, that's it.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 4: Just and they just have to charge it.

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Speaker 15: They don't have to do anything, and they even get

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Speaker 15: notifications when they need to charge it. It basically doesn't

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Speaker 15: tell your low battery.

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Speaker 16: And one of the others that we've didn't mention earlier,

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Speaker 16: I don't think because we have fall detection, so if

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Speaker 16: there is a fall, the person's family member, oh that

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Speaker 16: you don't have to worry.

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Speaker 1: About them pressing the right I fall in and can't

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Speaker 1: get up right and they know it.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 14: All yeah, But on top of it, we're being proactive.

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Speaker 14: So we actually remember I showed you the two percent

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Speaker 14: feed on the ground symmetry and the walking, So we're

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Speaker 14: getting ahead of the fall detection to where if we

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Speaker 14: see that the balance you want to explain the balance

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Speaker 14: to symmetry.

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Speaker 15: We're tracking different metrics in terms of how you walk,

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Speaker 15: and then we can detect if your balance starts to

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Speaker 15: degrade and then maybe you can do physical therapy or

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Speaker 15: maybe it's time to get a walker when we see

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Speaker 15: serious degradation of balance.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so we're trying to get ahead of the falls.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, actually nothing but great in all of this,

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Speaker 1: there's really no downside. All right, Well, let's talk about

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Speaker 1: the price, because this is where you know the rubber

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Speaker 1: tends to meet the throat. All sounds great, but I

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Speaker 1: can and afford that that's where Heart for Seniors really

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Speaker 1: shows up, as well as philanthropy. People who want to

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Speaker 1: help the Heart for Seniors mission by making a donation. Patty,

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Speaker 1: how's that work?

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Speaker 14: Yes, we don't want to have to charge at all.

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Speaker 14: And as long as we keep the donations coming in,

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Speaker 14: we're not going to charge. So worst case scenario, let's

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Speaker 14: just say we have no donations that have come in.

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Speaker 14: We're going to continue to support it. Our actual technology

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Speaker 14: itself is about ninety nine dollars a month in order

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Speaker 14: to have all the data and the support and the

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Speaker 14: tim going out to the house and things like that.

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Speaker 14: But our goal is to never have to charge it.

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Speaker 14: We're not charging it right now. If anybody calls and

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Speaker 14: wants to be on and once to try it, We've

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Speaker 14: even said try it. If after thirty ninety days.

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Speaker 1: You don't like it, well tell us give it back,

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Speaker 1: take it back. Of course you will take it back.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we're not here to make money. We're here for.

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Speaker 14: Quality care, improving the lives, improving the lives of seniors

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Speaker 14: and those with disabilities.

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Speaker 1: This is this is fantastic technology. Heart I four seniors

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Speaker 1: dot org. For my listeners who may not have a

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Speaker 1: laptop or a smart device.

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Speaker 4: Call us.

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Speaker 14: Here's the number Patty five one three four four four

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Speaker 14: twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 4: Please call us. We'd love to hear from you.

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Speaker 14: We want to help. And of course we still have

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Speaker 14: the skin tear technology. We still have the bandages. We

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Speaker 14: still have the incontinence care any and all, but we

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Speaker 14: finally have all the watches in so we're ready to

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Speaker 14: roll on the watches.

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Speaker 1: Get a watch five one, three, four, four four twenty

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Speaker 1: thirteen Heart four seniors to get the watch, get the diapers,

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Speaker 1: get the wound care bandages, and right there upper right

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Speaker 1: hand corner, donate, Yes, please donate help a senior in

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Speaker 1: your community by donating hard for seniors. I'll tell you what, Alex,

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Speaker 1: Tim and Patty God bless each and every one of

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Speaker 1: you for doing what you're doing and saving lives as

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Speaker 1: I point out, and I know you'll be back with

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Speaker 1: even greater improvements on this technology down the road. You

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Speaker 1: are committed to doing this car or to helping out

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Speaker 1: with this cause. Thank you very much, you.

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Speaker 14: All, no, thank you Brian your you're literally your supporters.

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Speaker 14: We hear all the time. I trust Brian. I trust Brian.

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Speaker 14: I listened to Brian all the time, and they call

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Speaker 14: us and tell us that it's you. I mean, it

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Speaker 14: really is your listener base.

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Speaker 1: I can never lie to anybody, and you sold me man.

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Speaker 1: I'm just love to be.

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Speaker 8: It.

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Speaker 1: Brian. Okay, put a watch on me and I also

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Speaker 1: come to modern technology. I have no the reason to

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Speaker 1: help with the beta testing or whatever. Hard for seniors

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Speaker 1: dot org folks stick around. Coming up next, Jack Windsor,

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Speaker 1: editor in chief of the hioh Press Network, will take you.

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Speaker 1: Hey thirty here fifty five KCD talk station. A very

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Speaker 1: very happy forarietay to you the return of Jack Windsor

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Speaker 1: from the igh Press Network. He is there. I see

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Speaker 1: him on the screen. You're lucky. I'm lucky I get

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Speaker 1: to see Jack, He's said, because he gets to see me.

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Speaker 1: But we get some great topics to talk about. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back from the High Press Network and host of the

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Speaker 1: Windsor Report, Jack Windsor. Great to have you on the show.

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Speaker 10: It's a blessing and an honor to be here. Thank

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Speaker 10: you for having me.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what year you graduated from high school, Jack,

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Speaker 1: but I sure look back on my days. I graduated

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Speaker 1: in eighty three, and all the days we were let

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Speaker 1: out of school to protest, we used to hit the

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Speaker 1: ground run and the teachers were behind us, we all

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Speaker 1: and it was we were out there doing right wing activism.

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Speaker 1: We were voting for Reagan. Yeah, no, that never happened, Jack,

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Speaker 1: not once never How in the hell have we We've

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Speaker 1: gone from from an era where you went to school

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Speaker 1: and you studied what we thought were appropriate things to

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Speaker 1: study in school, but they didn't involve political engagement, in

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Speaker 1: political activism. We talked conceptually about it during our Civics

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Speaker 1: class that we do have a First Amendment right to

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Speaker 1: free speech, but not during academic hours. So we've gone

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Speaker 1: a long way from those days. Jack, and I see

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Speaker 1: lots of schools across this land all being let out.

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Speaker 1: Kids are taking to the street and protesting, and it's

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Speaker 1: all very well organized. On top of it. Your reaction

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Speaker 1: to this, your explanation and breakdown, Jack windsor.

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Speaker 10: Yes, So we covered a story about Gahanna Lincoln High School,

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Speaker 10: which is a Columbus, Ohio suburb. But as you may mention,

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Speaker 10: the same things are happening all around the Buckeye State.

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Speaker 10: And I'm going to go to the fallout before I

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Speaker 10: go to what happened. The fallout right now is exactly

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Speaker 10: what you said. There are parents going out. Wait a minute,

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Speaker 10: what if a group of students created signs and wanted

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Speaker 10: to walk out in support of President Trump and his

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Speaker 10: implementation of border border patrol activities In order to enforce

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Speaker 10: federal border law, would schools cooperate? And let's be real,

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Speaker 10: the answer is no, No, they wouldn't. They would give

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Speaker 10: a lot more resistance. And so that's really kind of

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Speaker 10: the backdrop of sentiment here in central Ohio, at least

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Speaker 10: folks that we hear from.

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Speaker 1: And on February fourth.

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Speaker 10: Hanna Lincoln High School students they staged a walkout, and

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Speaker 10: the principal there, Jessica Williams, emailed families beforehand urging class attendance.

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Speaker 10: While she said she respected peaceful expression. Well, there were

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Speaker 10: signs like fornicate ice is the way that I will

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Speaker 10: put it, and there were chants of fornicate ice from

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Speaker 10: the crowd. There was another sign that spoke very negatively

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Speaker 10: and derogatorily about Trump and his supporters and had vote

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Speaker 10: blue at the bottom. And one anonymous parent said that

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Speaker 10: after the events that day that his daughter sent a

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Speaker 10: message and said, you know, I don't feel safe and

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Speaker 10: secure in my school, not only because of what happened,

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Speaker 10: but because of the ongoing activism in the schools. There's

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Speaker 10: kind of this civil war environment now where it's activist

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Speaker 10: teachers and folks on students on the left who are saying,

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Speaker 10: if if you agree with what's going on with Trump

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Speaker 10: and Ice agents, then you know the classic labels, right, xenophobe, nationalist, trumper, maga, idiot,

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Speaker 10: all of these things.

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Speaker 1: Oh and the all important I'm the present racist.

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Speaker 10: Racist, that's it, racist, xenophobe, all of it. And what's

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Speaker 10: really interesting, the irony is that Gehannah Lincoln, for example,

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Speaker 10: they have this acronym pride, pr id you know, respect

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Speaker 10: and integrity and decent, all these things, right, but yet

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Speaker 10: you have students chanting profanities. You have other students feeling

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Speaker 10: unsafe in their classrooms, and parents, more than one parent,

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Speaker 10: three sets of parents reported to me that the word

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Speaker 10: civil war was used. That's the vibe that the students

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Speaker 10: are getting, that they're being pitted against each other. And so,

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Speaker 10: you know, I'm going to call it.

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Speaker 7: What it is.

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Speaker 10: It's commy activists in the school here breaking spirits. That's

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Speaker 10: exactly what they're doing. They're try trying to divide the

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Speaker 10: students and use students against parents and against you know,

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Speaker 10: any any worldview that they see inning in the way.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I've observed this. I'm a pattern observer. Maree,

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Speaker 1: my friend out there, the conspiracy theorist anyway, No, she's not.

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Speaker 1: She's a pattern deserver. I can't too, and I've said

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Speaker 1: this many times Jack. The left and it is hardcore

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Speaker 1: communist activists, Marxist activists behind the scenes, organizing disparate groups

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Speaker 1: of topics to be angry with each other. LGBTQ. Over

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Speaker 1: here you got one side, or here you got the other.

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Speaker 1: They'd scream and yell at each other. That's one area.

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Speaker 1: Then in this area it's immigration and immigration enforcement. You know,

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Speaker 1: open borders is one argument, closed borders is the other.

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Speaker 1: But once you got them here, then you got these

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Speaker 1: two sides of the abbe. But we need to get

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Speaker 1: rid of the illegal immigrants. The other side screaming no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: these are our friends and neighbors, and screaming yell at

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Speaker 1: each other. Pick another area. They're dividing us across the board.

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Speaker 1: This is not I would argue Jack Winsor from the

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Speaker 1: High Press about how Ice is enforcing the law. It

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Speaker 1: may be for some, this is more about stirring the

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Speaker 1: pot of anger and division in this country to drive

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Speaker 1: us all apart.

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Speaker 7: It is.

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Speaker 10: And by the way, there's an opportunity here for teachers.

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02:02:51,680 --> 02:02:54,440
Speaker 10: There's an opportunity here for students. And I'm going to

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02:02:54,480 --> 02:02:56,840
Speaker 10: talk about our irresponsible governor if you don't mind in

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02:02:57,040 --> 02:03:00,360
Speaker 10: just a moment, yea, how he's spreading total ignorance. But

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Speaker 10: there's an opportunity here for teachers to engage and say, look,

2382
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Speaker 10: you may not like the laws, but you should be

2383
02:03:07,520 --> 02:03:09,960
Speaker 10: abiding by them. And if you don't like them, here

2384
02:03:10,280 --> 02:03:12,760
Speaker 10: is the diplomatic way in which you can go about

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02:03:13,080 --> 02:03:18,760
Speaker 10: lobbying to change those bingo. And here's the other key ingredient.

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Speaker 10: Whether it's the governor, whether it's Democrat lawmakers in the

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Speaker 10: state house, or whether it's activist teachers, these folks seem

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Speaker 10: to forget the fundamentals of the US Constitution. There is

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Speaker 10: a thing called the supremacy Clause, and that says, I mean,

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Speaker 10: it's Article six of the Constitution. The federal government has

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02:03:35,600 --> 02:03:39,320
Speaker 10: absolute authority in things like establishing a post office. States

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02:03:39,360 --> 02:03:43,920
Speaker 10: can't establish their own post and also immigration policies and

2393
02:03:44,040 --> 02:03:47,520
Speaker 10: border policies. The federal government has absolute authority on that.

2394
02:03:47,760 --> 02:03:50,400
Speaker 10: Because states can't create their own border policies and laws,

2395
02:03:50,440 --> 02:03:52,680
Speaker 10: you'd have fifty sets of laws on the books and

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02:03:52,760 --> 02:03:55,720
Speaker 10: that would be total chaos. And so when these people

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02:03:55,880 --> 02:03:58,720
Speaker 10: push back and say, well, Ice is being you know,

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02:04:00,240 --> 02:04:03,200
Speaker 10: dictatorial or whatever it is, whatever the flavor of the

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Speaker 10: day is. I just scratch my head and go, well,

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Speaker 10: first of all, if you're a lawmaker, there are Democrats

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02:04:08,200 --> 02:04:09,920
Speaker 10: in the Ohio House who are now trying to draft

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02:04:10,000 --> 02:04:12,520
Speaker 10: bills to restrict ICE. And then you have the governor

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02:04:12,920 --> 02:04:15,280
Speaker 10: on TV with Dana Bash on CNN doing a dog

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02:04:15,360 --> 02:04:17,680
Speaker 10: and pony show, and I go, did you guys like

2405
02:04:17,880 --> 02:04:20,640
Speaker 10: skip the week or the month or the quarter that

2406
02:04:20,760 --> 02:04:22,560
Speaker 10: civics was taught in high school? I mean, this is

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Speaker 10: fundamental stuff that they're glossing over.

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Speaker 1: Take a break, we'll bring Jack windsor back talk about

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Speaker 1: maybe another comment or two about governor to wine. And

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Speaker 1: it is some up to say. It is quite revealing

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02:04:32,800 --> 02:04:35,560
Speaker 1: that this great civics opportunity to talk about the state

2412
02:04:35,560 --> 02:04:37,080
Speaker 1: of the law of the State of America, how things

2413
02:04:37,120 --> 02:04:40,240
Speaker 1: are supposed to work, regardless of how you feel there's

2414
02:04:40,280 --> 02:04:43,000
Speaker 1: a process, that they're not using this as an opportunity

2415
02:04:43,040 --> 02:04:45,600
Speaker 1: for that, but they are supporting the anti ice, angry

2416
02:04:45,720 --> 02:04:48,920
Speaker 1: left wing violence against Ice. It's revealing of what the

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02:04:49,040 --> 02:04:53,960
Speaker 1: teacher's true motivation is and their true political reality. That's

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Speaker 1: what it's about it's politics. It's not educating our children

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Speaker 1: more with Jack wins Or eight thirty seven Right now,

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Speaker 1: if you have k CED talk.

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Speaker 4: Station fifty five KRC News mad Ingram.

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Speaker 1: Fifty five k the talk station, Hey, forty fifty five

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Speaker 1: KRC the talk station. There's another book marked bull website,

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02:05:11,760 --> 02:05:15,200
Speaker 1: the Ohio Press Network my Guess Today, editor in chief

2425
02:05:15,240 --> 02:05:18,480
Speaker 1: of that particular website and media outlet, Jack Windsor or Jack.

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02:05:19,040 --> 02:05:21,160
Speaker 1: He mentioned Governor Mike Dwine. A lot of my friends

2427
02:05:21,240 --> 02:05:23,560
Speaker 1: and a lot of my listeners not real overwhelmingly happy

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02:05:23,640 --> 02:05:26,840
Speaker 1: with the well Governor Wine Dwine's performance, and we all

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02:05:26,920 --> 02:05:30,720
Speaker 1: can be critic could control Joe is what it is. Oh,

2430
02:05:30,880 --> 02:05:35,920
Speaker 1: the troll, the troll, Okay, fair enough. Anyhow, we also

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02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:40,080
Speaker 1: are very critical of little, seemingly little getting done in Columbus,

2432
02:05:40,120 --> 02:05:42,720
Speaker 1: which is overwhelming controlled by Republicans I always refer to

2433
02:05:42,760 --> 02:05:46,760
Speaker 1: as herding cats. But in so far as the protests

2434
02:05:46,760 --> 02:05:51,080
Speaker 1: are concerned, they center around immigration, illegal immigration and enforcement

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02:05:51,520 --> 02:05:53,560
Speaker 1: of the laws that we just talked about. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: Governor Wine in that context, but he's also come up

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Speaker 1: with the context of the Haitian community in Springfield. He's

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02:05:58,880 --> 02:06:02,240
Speaker 1: a little upset that the the temporary protected status may

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02:06:02,440 --> 02:06:05,200
Speaker 1: very well go away. I know Christy Noams said she

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02:06:05,360 --> 02:06:07,440
Speaker 1: was removing it, but a judge has stopped it. Now

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02:06:07,480 --> 02:06:10,520
Speaker 1: that isn't the definitive word on it, but I'm sorry, Jack.

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Speaker 1: Governor to one says, this is talking about how bad

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02:06:15,800 --> 02:06:18,000
Speaker 1: it's going to be for Ohio's economy because the folks

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02:06:18,120 --> 02:06:20,600
Speaker 1: will lose their jobs, folks that are only able to

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02:06:20,640 --> 02:06:24,160
Speaker 1: work lawfully because of the designation of let me emphasize

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02:06:24,200 --> 02:06:29,879
Speaker 1: the appropriate word temporary protected status. If you're an employer,

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02:06:30,000 --> 02:06:32,920
Speaker 1: you're clearly hiring someone you know that may very well

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Speaker 1: have the rug pulled out of their temporary status. So

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Speaker 1: your eyes are wide open when you're doing it.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, one hundred percent. And by the way, you can

2451
02:06:42,960 --> 02:06:47,840
Speaker 10: take this to the bank that DC Judge's ruling will

2452
02:06:47,920 --> 02:06:48,920
Speaker 10: get overturned.

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Speaker 1: Period.

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Speaker 7: So this is just a delay.

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Speaker 10: And so Governor Dwine was on CNN with Dana Bash

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02:06:54,760 --> 02:06:58,560
Speaker 10: talking about the roughly fifteen thousand Haitian immigrants in Springfield

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02:06:58,600 --> 02:07:01,440
Speaker 10: and he warns that removed them would be devastating to

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02:07:01,760 --> 02:07:05,080
Speaker 10: local businesses. And he said that many companies heavily rely

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Speaker 10: on Haitian workers and that sudden federal enforcement would cause

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02:07:08,760 --> 02:07:13,800
Speaker 10: major economic damage to the region. And in the video, frankly,

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Speaker 10: it's a pathetic display of weakness. I've posted it on

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Speaker 10: my social platforms, and really it's open resistance to federal

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02:07:21,440 --> 02:07:24,920
Speaker 10: immigration law. So instead of supporting the lawful enforcement of

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02:07:25,000 --> 02:07:29,440
Speaker 10: America's borders, Dwine is actively lobbying to shield thousands of

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02:07:29,520 --> 02:07:33,720
Speaker 10: Haitians from deportation even though they're temporary. As you just

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02:07:33,800 --> 02:07:37,120
Speaker 10: pointed out, protected status is expiring. And this isn't leadership.

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Speaker 10: It's deliberate defiance of federal authority. And I want to

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Speaker 10: get to this, this is important. There's the glaring hypocrisy here,

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02:07:43,560 --> 02:07:45,960
Speaker 10: the most shameless part. Just a few weeks ago, you'll

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02:07:46,000 --> 02:07:51,200
Speaker 10: remember Dwine coldly total Hio businesses selling legalized intoxicating hemp

2471
02:07:51,320 --> 02:07:54,240
Speaker 10: products that they quote knew the risks they were taking

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02:07:54,600 --> 02:07:58,360
Speaker 10: and deserved no protection when he banned them. Yet now

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02:07:58,720 --> 02:08:02,920
Speaker 10: he's singing a completely different tune, desperately begging the federal

2474
02:08:03,000 --> 02:08:06,560
Speaker 10: government to go easy on Springfield businesses that knowingly built

2475
02:08:06,600 --> 02:08:11,080
Speaker 10: their operations around a massive influx of Haitian migrants under

2476
02:08:11,120 --> 02:08:14,760
Speaker 10: temporary status. I mean, how much more glaring can can

2477
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Speaker 10: this hypocrisy be?

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Speaker 1: No, it's obvious. And again, you know your eyes are white.

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Speaker 1: He can complain all day long about the loss of

2480
02:08:21,880 --> 02:08:26,440
Speaker 1: temporary status, but temporary by definition is temporary for God's sake.

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02:08:27,360 --> 02:08:30,920
Speaker 1: And if your business model is predicated upon and I

2482
02:08:31,000 --> 02:08:33,360
Speaker 1: suppose Jack, this comes down to cheap labor. Because I

2483
02:08:33,400 --> 02:08:38,600
Speaker 1: had a question earlier. These businesses chose to hire the

2484
02:08:38,960 --> 02:08:42,880
Speaker 1: otherwise not lawfully able to work population based on this

2485
02:08:42,960 --> 02:08:46,400
Speaker 1: temporary status. Okay, we're safe hiring them to do these

2486
02:08:46,520 --> 02:08:51,000
Speaker 1: jobs we have. If they never got temporary status, they

2487
02:08:51,080 --> 02:08:54,600
Speaker 1: never were able to lawfully work, would these businesses be around,

2488
02:08:55,000 --> 02:08:57,640
Speaker 1: would they be elsewhere, or would these jobs be open

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Speaker 1: to American applicants, who I'm guessing probably would expect a

2490
02:09:01,240 --> 02:09:01,960
Speaker 1: higher wage.

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Speaker 10: Yes, So I want to hit that because I spent

2492
02:09:04,960 --> 02:09:06,880
Speaker 10: a lot of time in Springfield, Ohio last year, and

2493
02:09:06,960 --> 02:09:10,160
Speaker 10: in fact, then Vice president candidate JD. Vance sent me

2494
02:09:10,200 --> 02:09:12,560
Speaker 10: several text messages and said thank you for being one

2495
02:09:12,600 --> 02:09:14,680
Speaker 10: of the reporters that's actually telling the truth here. I

2496
02:09:14,840 --> 02:09:17,360
Speaker 10: coined a term last year. I was on Sebastian Gorka's

2497
02:09:17,680 --> 02:09:20,400
Speaker 10: TV show on Newsmax, I believe at the time, and

2498
02:09:20,720 --> 02:09:24,280
Speaker 10: I called it reverse offshoring for a long time. Businesses

2499
02:09:24,360 --> 02:09:27,920
Speaker 10: got black eyes, you remember, for building factories overseas with

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02:09:28,480 --> 02:09:31,720
Speaker 10: materials for pennies on the dollar and basically paying workers

2501
02:09:31,760 --> 02:09:34,200
Speaker 10: of bowl of rice in two cents. Right, Well, what

2502
02:09:34,680 --> 02:09:39,280
Speaker 10: do Wine and the Biden open border policies and the

2503
02:09:39,320 --> 02:09:44,520
Speaker 10: Biden administration and Springfield leaders allowed to happen in Springfield

2504
02:09:44,680 --> 02:09:46,760
Speaker 10: was well, instead of doing that overseas, we're going to

2505
02:09:46,800 --> 02:09:50,440
Speaker 10: reverse offshore, we're going to traffic Haitians in. And I

2506
02:09:51,640 --> 02:09:54,600
Speaker 10: covered it. I mean, you had some places where there

2507
02:09:54,640 --> 02:09:58,400
Speaker 10: were homes that would otherwise be rented to springfielders who

2508
02:09:58,480 --> 02:10:03,360
Speaker 10: were filled with twe twenty ten, fifteen thirty Haitians because

2509
02:10:03,560 --> 02:10:06,400
Speaker 10: they would rent a bed to a Haitian for eight hours,

2510
02:10:06,600 --> 02:10:08,400
Speaker 10: and then when that Haitian was working, they'd rent the

2511
02:10:08,440 --> 02:10:10,480
Speaker 10: same bed to another Haitian for eight hours. And then

2512
02:10:10,520 --> 02:10:12,320
Speaker 10: all of a sudden, rents in the area go from

2513
02:10:12,360 --> 02:10:14,800
Speaker 10: eight hundred dollars to thirty five hundred dollars, so people

2514
02:10:14,840 --> 02:10:17,800
Speaker 10: get crowded out of housing. And we had people say

2515
02:10:17,880 --> 02:10:20,960
Speaker 10: to us, I went to that temporary staffing agency, I

2516
02:10:21,040 --> 02:10:23,840
Speaker 10: applied for a job. They never called me because I'm

2517
02:10:23,840 --> 02:10:27,760
Speaker 10: an American and I expect X amount per per hour.

2518
02:10:28,040 --> 02:10:31,440
Speaker 10: But they were hiring Haitians, you know, like it was

2519
02:10:31,840 --> 02:10:35,000
Speaker 10: nobody's business. And so this is reverse offshoring, and Mike

2520
02:10:35,040 --> 02:10:38,760
Speaker 10: DeWine is trying to protect the trafficking of Haitians in Springfield, Ohio.

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Speaker 1: We'll bring Jack Winsor back for one more, a little

2522
02:10:40,760 --> 02:10:45,839
Speaker 1: bit more to unpackage on this very controversial immigration situation

2523
02:10:46,000 --> 02:10:49,120
Speaker 1: going on here at Ohio Press network dot com. That's

2524
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Speaker 1: where we find Jack Windsor in some great reporting, including

2525
02:10:52,440 --> 02:10:55,240
Speaker 1: the reporting on this whole situation Springfield, the Haitian community

2526
02:10:55,280 --> 02:10:56,800
Speaker 1: you mentioned, Governor of Wine. It seemed to be a

2527
02:10:56,840 --> 02:11:00,760
Speaker 1: concerted effort to bring them. How why Jack, Why Springfield?

2528
02:11:01,840 --> 02:11:05,200
Speaker 1: Why the Haitian community, I mean, why not the Somalia.

2529
02:11:05,200 --> 02:11:07,040
Speaker 1: Why weren't they bringing Somalians in? Or why weren't they

2530
02:11:07,080 --> 02:11:09,000
Speaker 1: bringing Mexican labors in? Or why weren't they bringing I

2531
02:11:09,040 --> 02:11:12,480
Speaker 1: don't know, Chinese Communist Party military age men, and there's

2532
02:11:12,480 --> 02:11:13,520
Speaker 1: a lot of those in the country.

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Speaker 10: Bingo. Because Governor Mike Dwine had the Becky Dowine School

2534
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Speaker 10: in Haiti for years, I believe it is now defunct,

2535
02:11:23,840 --> 02:11:28,360
Speaker 10: but sadly, his daughter Becky was tragically killed in an

2536
02:11:28,400 --> 02:11:31,520
Speaker 10: auto accident and so he and fran Dowine constructed a

2537
02:11:31,560 --> 02:11:34,200
Speaker 10: school in Haiti for students there and named it after Becky.

2538
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Speaker 10: But Governor Mike DeWine has always had a soft spot

2539
02:11:37,840 --> 02:11:41,280
Speaker 10: in his heart for Haiti and for Haitians, and unfortunately

2540
02:11:41,720 --> 02:11:44,280
Speaker 10: he seems to be a purveyor of lies, like some

2541
02:11:44,400 --> 02:11:46,400
Speaker 10: of the churches there in Springfield that say there's no

2542
02:11:46,520 --> 02:11:49,320
Speaker 10: such thing as an illegal there's no such thing as

2543
02:11:49,360 --> 02:11:54,240
Speaker 10: an illegal human being, to justify bringing Haitians in and

2544
02:11:54,400 --> 02:11:56,920
Speaker 10: allowing them to cut in front of others in the line.

2545
02:11:57,720 --> 02:11:59,640
Speaker 10: And by the way, I think Dwine was born in

2546
02:11:59,640 --> 02:12:02,320
Speaker 10: spring O, Ohio, so that's technically his stomping grounds. And

2547
02:12:02,840 --> 02:12:05,200
Speaker 10: I think that's why. I think it's because he has

2548
02:12:05,320 --> 02:12:08,440
Speaker 10: ties to Haiti. I think that you know, that is

2549
02:12:08,520 --> 02:12:12,360
Speaker 10: his area, and he probably has long lasting relationships with

2550
02:12:12,480 --> 02:12:16,480
Speaker 10: leaders in that area, whether business or government, and really

2551
02:12:16,640 --> 02:12:19,000
Speaker 10: just did the deal behind the scenes and said, oh, okay,

2552
02:12:19,040 --> 02:12:21,040
Speaker 10: you need some cheap labor, no worries, we'll bring in

2553
02:12:21,120 --> 02:12:23,360
Speaker 10: some Haitians. Because you know, there was an earthquake there

2554
02:12:23,440 --> 02:12:26,440
Speaker 10: in twenty ten, right sixteen years later, we're still giving

2555
02:12:26,480 --> 02:12:29,320
Speaker 10: them temporary protected status, which is why the Trump administration

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02:12:29,440 --> 02:12:30,920
Speaker 10: is closing that down well.

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Speaker 1: In you know, just in a nod to truth. And

2558
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Speaker 1: I know that the judge who put the halt on

2559
02:12:36,360 --> 02:12:39,080
Speaker 1: this struggled with the idea that we still have a

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Speaker 1: State department warning about do not travel to Haiti for

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Speaker 1: any reason. So how can you justify the things have

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Speaker 1: improved in Haiti? Is the point where you can get

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Speaker 1: rid of temporary work status. I kind of get that

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Speaker 1: on some level, because by all accounts, Haiti is objectively

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Speaker 1: a hellhole run by gangs.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I get that, until you understand that Article two

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Speaker 10: the Constitution endows the executive branch with the enforcement of laws,

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Speaker 10: and Trump can pick whoever he wants within each administrative

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Speaker 10: as the head and as the workers to do the bidding.

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Speaker 10: And so he has the authority to say, no, here

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Speaker 10: are the border laws, and this was an order previously

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Speaker 10: and we are going to undo that. And the judge

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Speaker 10: can be stymied all she wants. But the reality is,

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Speaker 10: here's the other hard part for a lot of liberals

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Speaker 10: to understand. District federal judges don't have the authority to

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Speaker 10: check the president. Only the Supreme Court of the United

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Speaker 10: States does. The only time that a federal district judge

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Speaker 10: can say the ruling here applies to the parties beyond

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Speaker 10: those in this case is if it's a class action lawsuit,

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Speaker 10: which this is not so. For those reasons, this is

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Speaker 10: going to get overturned at the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 1: Very valid legal point on that one. Subtle, but very valid, Jack.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you raising that. Any comments on my friend Maureen,

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Speaker 1: He's always on top of these things. The House Bill

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Speaker 1: six execus kitters apparently on trial, and they're from the Sheneigans.

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Speaker 1: This is what landed Larry Householder in prison for the

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Speaker 1: First Energy scandal with the nuclear power plans. A lot

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Speaker 1: a lot of corruption going on in there. Going back

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Speaker 1: to Governor de Wine, any suggestion maybe that this trial

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Speaker 1: might reveal his greater involvement than we've been led to

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Speaker 1: believe before. Is there something there there, Jack Windsor in

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Speaker 1: your estimation, I think there's.

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Speaker 10: Always been something there. I'm I cannot be judge jury

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Speaker 10: an executioner. However, I will tell you that the Wine,

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Speaker 10: against the recommendations of wise people around him, appointed Sam

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Speaker 10: Randazzo to lead the agency that would allow some of

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Speaker 10: these things with House Bill six to happen and First

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Speaker 10: Energy to happen, and Randazzo obviously was convicted committed suicide

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Speaker 10: because of the fallout. And you know, I think Mike

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Speaker 10: DeWine probably has enough people between him and some of

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Speaker 10: the activities that are being investigated to have plausible deniability.

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Speaker 10: But I think many fair minded people understand that Governor

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Speaker 10: Dwine met with these two individuals that are on trial

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Speaker 10: soon after being elected, so look to pretend like he

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Speaker 10: didn't know what was going on. I think what it's

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Speaker 10: going to come down to is this lobbying is legal

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Speaker 10: in this country, and so what did these folks do

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Speaker 10: with respect to influence, whether that be money or otherwise

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Speaker 10: that crosses the line. And what was Governor Mike Dwine's

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Speaker 10: role in that? And he is still saying he's not

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Speaker 10: sure if he's going to be called and whether he's

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Speaker 10: going to have to submit testimony.

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Speaker 7: We'll see.

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Speaker 10: But again, I think fair minded people recognize that this

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Speaker 10: is a deal that Governor Mike Dwine helped broker.

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Speaker 1: Well, I suppose he doesn't have to worry about his

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Speaker 1: political future given his age and term limits and all that,

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Speaker 1: so he'll fade off into the sunset. I suppose Jack

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Speaker 1: windsor maybe with no accountability, Jack, I appreciate you following

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Speaker 1: all of these great topics. The Ohio Pressnetwork dot com

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Speaker 1: is where you find Jack each and every day of

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Speaker 1: the week. Recommend you book mark the site and tune

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Speaker 1: into the morning show every Friday, because we're going to

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Speaker 1: continue doing this, aren't we.

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Speaker 7: Jack,