1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Denvers has come to Houston and beaten the Texans by 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: a final score of eighteen to fifteen. 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 2: It's remarkable. It's remarkable here again on a victory Monday. 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: Six in a row. Roncos are seven and two, tied 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: for first place in the AFC. 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 3: Welcome to it. On a Monday. 7 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: Dave Logan, Ryan Edwards and Nick Ferguson in studio. We're 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: in his victory pink. Very excited about that, Dave, my friend. 9 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 3: Good to see you. How are you good to see you? 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 3: Guys doing well? 11 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: You are not in victory pink today, Nick, though, Let's 12 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: good on you, says the salmon, say salmon, whatever you 13 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: want to. 14 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 4: Call it, pink salmon, whatever. 15 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 3: It doesn't bother to me. 16 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: I just want to know officially, because I tend to 17 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 2: get these things wrong. 18 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 5: Well, you know what, maybe I should ask you because 19 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 5: sometimes you're correct, you do get it wrong because I 20 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 5: think visually, Dave. 21 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: What do you think what does that look like to you? 22 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 3: The sweatshirt? 23 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 4: Yeah? 24 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: Just medium? You mean the color color? 25 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 6: I think that would be Listen, I'm not quite as 26 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 6: bad as you with colors, but I'm not good. 27 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 3: I would say I would say that's salmon. Okay, yeah, 28 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 3: it's salmon, Sam because he said salmon. I said salmon earlier. 29 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 6: You know, I walked in and truth being known, before 30 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 6: you walked in, Ryan said, did you see. 31 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 3: Nick with that pink ass sweatshirt? 32 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 2: Yes, so that's just like those are definitely pink. Those 33 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: are definitely pink. But you always coordinate, You're you're very 34 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 2: big on that. There you go, Yeah, that's good, that's good. Uh, well, 35 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: hey listen, uh attire aside, not like I don't get 36 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: to say anything as I tend to just wear flannel 37 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: all the time. 38 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 3: Yes, it's victory Monday. 39 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: Very excited about the way they played, although last night, Dave, 40 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: I'll be honest, mixed reaction from the fans last night 41 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: on Broncos React. There were, as it has been the case, 42 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: a faction of fans that are like, hey, they won 43 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: the game, they're on this winning streak, they're tight for 44 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: the first in AFC. And then there's a section of 45 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: fans out there that are very unhappy with a little 46 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: over midway point of the season where the offense is 47 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 2: really still having games like this. 48 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 3: So I think both can be true, don't you. 49 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 6: Yes, I mean I think that the bottom line the 50 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 6: most important stat is how many you win versus how 51 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 6: many you lose. And the Broncos in nine games have 52 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 6: won seven times and they are atop the AFC West, 53 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 6: and they deserve to be there based on their play. Now, 54 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 6: are there things that as they look at this and 55 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 6: say we got to get better at? We've got to 56 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 6: get better quick? Of course, but every other team has 57 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 6: similar questions might be about something other than what the 58 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 6: Broncos have to get better at. But every team at 59 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 6: this point of the season has things that they know 60 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 6: they have to improve upon if they're going to give 61 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 6: themselves the best chance to win. But it would to 62 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 6: me it's a lot better having those issues at seven 63 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 6: to two. Then let's say, oh, the Raiders at two 64 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 6: and six. 65 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: I think most teams would want to be here. 66 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: I mean the Grevay Packers last yesterday lost to the 67 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers at Lambeau. 68 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: So yeah, you take the win where you get them. 69 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: I think this is an interesting thing for this team, 70 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: right because last year in one score game, they were 71 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: one and six. This year they're five and two. Can 72 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: that be an identity being able to close games? Being clutched? 73 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: Is that something that can be an identity. 74 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 3: I think. 75 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 6: I think it is positive to have that ability to 76 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,839 Speaker 6: do it. I don't think that necessarily is an identity, 77 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 6: but I think it is. I think it's a powerful 78 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 6: thing for a locker room to have experienced a number 79 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 6: of times games like the Broncos have had where they've 80 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 6: come from behind, come from seemingly. 81 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 3: Being dead in the water, and found a way to 82 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 3: win a game. 83 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 6: Those I mean, that's a powerful whatever it is, serum potient. 84 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 6: That's powerful, and guys in the locker room believe in that, 85 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 6: and it may very well serve them well down the 86 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 6: stretch of this regular season and into the playoffs. 87 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 3: If you're down ten in the playoffs in the. 88 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 6: Fourth quarter, these guys have proven and they've seen it, 89 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 6: and so they hang in there. 90 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 3: They say, you know what, we'll come back. 91 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 5: You know, having the clutch gene that is something that 92 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 5: every team wants to have. And you definitely want to 93 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 5: know that your quarterback is capable of those types of moments. 94 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 5: But you want to you don't want to have these 95 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 5: types of moments all the time. You don't want that 96 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 5: to be known as being your identity. Because here's what 97 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 5: I do know. Winning is the perfect deodorant, right, because 98 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 5: in Man, that's almost like for breeze, the stink of 99 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 5: how you're being You're not being. 100 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 4: As efficient as you need to be. Dirty feet, dirty feet, And. 101 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 5: When you think about the temperate Broncos, it's been dirty 102 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 5: feet first three quarters. We all celebrate, Hey, look what 103 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 5: they were able to do in the last five quarters, right, 104 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 5: and we're. 105 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 4: Talking about fourth quarter performances. 106 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 5: Great, but that's not something that you want to do 107 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 5: because for three quarters you were not as efficient. 108 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 4: As you need to be. 109 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 5: And if this team is to get where they want 110 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 5: to get to, where they seem as though they are 111 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 5: capable of, if everything comes together, you have to put 112 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,559 Speaker 5: four quarters of football together. And here's the difference between 113 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 5: where we are now to pull a post to where 114 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 5: we were at the beginning of the season. At the 115 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 5: beginning of the season, the Broncos were doing well and 116 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 5: I'll just say in. 117 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:52,239 Speaker 4: The first half. 118 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,239 Speaker 5: The second half they were struggling, especially in the fourth quarter. 119 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 5: Now we flip the script. Now they're doing well in 120 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 5: the fourth quarter. There three not so much. So I 121 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 5: understand the text line yesterday being happy but still going 122 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 5: there's a little of concern because we're at the midway 123 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 5: point of the season, and this offense is still struggling 124 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 5: with consistency, are they not? 125 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 3: Oh no, they certainly are. 126 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 2: Like I said, multiple things can be true, right, Being 127 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 2: able to be clutch and to close out a game 128 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: and the way that they're doing is a good thing. 129 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 3: Like you shouldn't have to apologize for that. 130 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: There seems to me sometimes with Broncos fans it's like 131 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: you should almost apologize for not being as consistent as 132 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,559 Speaker 2: you were hoping to be. Where I think every single 133 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 2: game kind of has its own encapsulation. I thought this 134 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: was kind of an interesting stat that was tweeted out 135 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 2: last night. So the Broncos are nineteenth in the NFL 136 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: and point differentials through the first three quarters, they're minus 137 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 2: one in point differentials, so basically kind of even first. 138 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 2: In the fourth, they're number one of the fourth plus sixty. 139 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 3: Do you know who's second? Houston? Wow? Houston before yesterday. 140 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 6: Had given up a total in seven games in the 141 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 6: fourth quarter of those seven games thirteen points. They gave 142 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 6: up what eleven eleven yesterday, So I get it. I 143 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 6: understand some of the angst from Broncos fans. Really, you'd 144 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 6: like things to look better at times or be better 145 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 6: remove the ball more consistently. 146 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 3: I get that, I really do. 147 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 6: But again, you know, think about this, This to me 148 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 6: can still I mean, this can be a great season. 149 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 6: But to me, it's just the start. I mean, this 150 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 6: is a young team that has they're developing, like a 151 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 6: whole bunch of guys that are babies that are going 152 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 6: to be around for two, three, four, five years. With 153 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 6: this team, I think the future is very, very bright. 154 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 6: And again I think this year can can be a great, 155 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 6: great season, but to me, it's just the start of 156 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 6: being great. 157 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 5: I know this team is young. They have a couple 158 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 5: of young players, you know, RJ. Harvey, Pat Briant, A 159 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 5: lot of those guys getting a lot of playing time. 160 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 5: Troy Franklin in his second year is looking fantastic and 161 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 5: who would have thought that after last season people were 162 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 5: just throwing him out with the bathwater and saying as 163 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 5: though he can't catch, he can't do these things. 164 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 4: Proceeds, yes, but anyway, there were individuals. 165 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 5: So to today's point, yes, this team is young, but 166 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 5: at some point we have to get past that because 167 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 5: a lot of these young guys, they're at the tail 168 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 5: end of their their college season. 169 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 4: So at some point we need to. 170 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,239 Speaker 5: Show that this team is a powerhouse offensively. 171 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 4: They have not done that. And to me, I'm not. 172 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 5: Saying something that is revolutionary that people that haven't seen, 173 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 5: you know, on a week the week basis. They now 174 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 5: have to show that you are just as dominant or 175 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 5: can be as equally dominant as your defense, and they 176 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 5: have not done that. 177 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 6: But no, here's my rebuttal. What Nick said is true, 178 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 6: But I think my rebuttal would be I don't think 179 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 6: anybody in today's game has done. 180 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 3: It this year. And it may very well be that. 181 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 6: Defenses are ahead collectively, they're ahead of offenses. I mean, 182 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 6: you look at Kansas City with Mahomes and that entire crew. 183 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 6: We've seen them play really good in stretches and we've 184 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 6: seen them play like not so good in stretches right 185 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 6: the Rams. You look at the Packers and Jordan Love yesterday. 186 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 6: We've seen Jordan Love. I've seen Jordan Love in games 187 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 6: where it's like, man, oh man, Green Bay is going 188 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 6: to be the team come out of the NFC because 189 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 6: they're really good on defense, and now they're playing like 190 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 6: this on offense. And then look at Yesterday and he's 191 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 6: throwing the ball in places where you're like, where. 192 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 3: Are you throwing the ball? One throw? 193 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 4: One throw? 194 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 3: Where are we throwing that ball? 195 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 6: So I think there's there's an element of inconsistency in 196 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 6: NFL offensive play by and large because defenses are better 197 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 6: and scheme to the point that some of these young 198 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 6: quarterbacks it's you know, it's hit or miss, it's tough sledding. Offensively, 199 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 6: I mean, what's what's the single most consistent offense that 200 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 6: we are aware of this year in the NFL? 201 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 4: If you take one off the top of your head. 202 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 2: Most consistent offense either Rams would have been one that 203 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 2: popped into my head. But you pointed out that we've 204 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 2: had some moments early in the season. 205 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 6: Maybe, but Seahawks are playing Seahawks are playing pretty good. 206 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 2: Buffalo had that terrible game against Atlanta. They have lost 207 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: two in a row in their offense kind of I mean, 208 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 2: Josh Allen through a couple of interceptions and Sam. 209 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 5: Do they look to be the most consistent team? 210 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 3: They yeah? Last night? I mean then they get just 211 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 3: boat raced in Pittsburgh. They did. 212 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 6: I mean they had the Colts had how many turnovers? 213 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 3: Six turnovers? 214 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 6: If you're if you're an indian My point, if you're 215 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 6: an Indianapolis fan going into that game, you're seven to one, you. 216 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 3: Leave the league. 217 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 6: Uh, you've got the best record in all of football. 218 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 6: This is the year the Colts come back. They go 219 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 6: to Pittsburgh. G I mean, Pittsburgh has not played great 220 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 6: at all, right, they just they just lost a home 221 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 6: game against Green Bay where they had the lead and 222 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 6: then just got boat raced the second half. And how 223 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 6: do the Colts play? They have six interceptions? My point being, 224 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 6: we're gonna see inconsistent play like this offensively, I think 225 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:49,119 Speaker 6: because of quarterback play and because of how good defensive 226 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 6: play is in the league. 227 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 5: But think each team you know, is good for one 228 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 5: of those types of games you talking about. Sure, but 229 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 5: when it's happening on a more consistent basis, that's when 230 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 5: it becomes more problematic. 231 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 4: And is it a thing here in Denver? 232 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 5: Is that based on the quarterbacks and the teams that 233 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 5: we've seen in the past, the expectations have sorted so 234 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 5: high that even if you fly under the radar just 235 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 5: a little, everyone is expecting more from you. 236 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 4: Is that the case of what we're suffering from. 237 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 3: Maybe a little bit, Yeah, maybe a little bit. 238 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 2: I guess, like for me, just in general, I keep 239 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 2: coming back to I like the fact that they've played 240 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 2: different in all of these games, because I think finding 241 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: different ways to win when everything isn't always working perfectly is. 242 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 4: A good thing. Sure, absolutely so. 243 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: The way they played against the Jets, I mean, yeah, 244 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 2: we're like, oh god, it was a real miserable game 245 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: to watch. 246 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 3: Found a way to win. 247 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: Same thing with you yesterday as a rock fight, you know, 248 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 2: playing against the Texas. We talked about it all week, 249 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 2: saying this isn't gonna be a pretty game. This is 250 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: gonna be a defensive led game on both sides of 251 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 2: the ball. Both offenses are probably the weak points of 252 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: the team right now. The defenses are clearly the strength. 253 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 2: And it's gonna be come down to who doesn't make 254 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: the mistakes, the critical mistakes, and the brok Is actually 255 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: might have two. And if I told you that that 256 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: they came out of that game minus too, you'd be like, 257 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: I have no idea how they won that game because 258 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 2: it was going to be that close. 259 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't. 260 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 6: Win many road games with minus two turnover differential, you 261 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 6: don't and scoring eighteen points, yes. 262 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 5: And just think The difference in the Broncos winning and 263 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 5: losing that game came down to the multitude of things, 264 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 5: but the glamory thing that stick out to me was 265 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 5: Derek Stingley dropping that would have been his second interception 266 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 5: in the game. 267 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 4: He gets that, that now. 268 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 5: Sets the Texans up for Feburn Field go to win 269 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 5: the game. 270 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 3: Oh, I got one better than that for me. Okay. 271 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: The other reason why the Broncos won is the Texans 272 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 2: being aggressive with like a minute left in the game, 273 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 2: buried in their own side of the field. 274 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 5: And they're just kind of playing, you know, to overtime. 275 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, just like like like being a And on one hand, 276 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 2: so it's it's it's twofold, right because on one hand 277 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 2: you say, well, this is the NFL, you're gonna go 278 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: for the win. So Davis Mills, hey, you've played in 279 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 2: the league for a while. I'll complete some passes and 280 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 2: put yourself in field goal range and try to win 281 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: this game. But you should have seen Texans fans afterwards 282 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 2: been like, no, you should run the ball here. And 283 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 2: I see that side of it too, where it's like, 284 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 2: run the ball here. Don't give the Broncos any chance 285 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 2: if you don't give first down, because what happened was 286 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: because they threw three straight times, one completion went out 287 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 2: of bounds and then I think it was two in completions. 288 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 2: You ran fourteen seconds off the clock and then punted 289 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 2: it away with that's. 290 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 6: Like looking up a dead horse's ass. Seriously, Well, the 291 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 6: horse is dead. What does it matter how he died? 292 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 6: I mean that that to me, You've got the benefit 293 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 6: of seeing how the game turned out. Sure, and then 294 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 6: looking back and saying, man, oh man, Houston, if they'd 295 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 6: run the ball, they'd run some clock off and Denver 296 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 6: would yeah, okay, but you're trying to win the game, 297 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 6: right Houston. It wasn't like Houston had a prolific running 298 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 6: game against the Broncos defense. Sure, I would say one 299 00:14:54,840 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 6: thing for Denver defensively that you know they've been really 300 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 6: good at, like great at this year, red zone defense 301 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 6: and goal to goal defense. 302 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 3: Think about this. 303 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 6: In nine games, opponents have had seventy one snaps of 304 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 6: offense in the Broncos red zone, which is inside the twenty, 305 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 6: not on the twenty, but inside the twenty. Seventy one snaps. 306 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 6: They're averaging one point seven yards per snap. 307 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 3: Wow. Now, Denver's giving up some. 308 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 6: Ground out in the field, sure, but when they get 309 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 6: down into the red zone, that defense has found ways 310 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 6: to keep them out of the end zone. 311 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 7: That's a stunning stat I mean, I mean conversely, if 312 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 7: you say, well, how much of the Broncos averaging the 313 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 7: Broncos when they get the ball in the red zone 314 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 7: or averaging it's like four point two or four point 315 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 7: three yards per snap, which you know is about I 316 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 7: don't know where that is league wide, but one point 317 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 7: seven Broncos defense is really good in the red zone. 318 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 4: You're you already said. 319 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 3: I was listening, you know, I was. 320 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 4: I'm just triking to verify. 321 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 5: I know you not in your head, but I'm just 322 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 5: making sure you're not, you know, not going full Bob ahead. 323 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 4: And you were just listening to what Dave said. 324 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 3: What did. 325 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 4: What was he talking about again? 326 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 3: The defense? 327 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 4: And what did they do? 328 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 3: They're only allowing one point seven yard per play? 329 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 4: What area of the field? 330 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 3: Red zone? 331 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 4: Okay, thank you? 332 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 3: At the fifth rest, I feel like I missed something here. 333 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 3: You've been killing Thencos defense. 334 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 4: I've been such so positive. 335 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 3: He just wants me to say that, you know, I don't. 336 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 5: I just I just want the continuation to be as 337 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 5: far as conversation to be about the Broncos defense because 338 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 5: after every single game, and yes, is this bias of 339 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 5: me being a former defensive player, You're doing right, because 340 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 5: it's always about Okay, look at what the shiny new 341 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 5: Tours on the offense did, right. They won the game 342 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 5: because of the offense, and no one nationally is talking 343 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 5: about the defense. 344 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 4: And I just want to give him some love. 345 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 3: That's all. 346 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 4: Okay, that's all I want to do. 347 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 2: So former defensive back, how did our defensive backs play 348 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:08,479 Speaker 2: without passer tan? 349 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 5: I thought they played well. I mean Chris abras Drain 350 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 5: I had know. The only setback I had for him 351 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 5: is just the consistency because because he hadn't played that much. 352 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 5: But I thought he would go out there and compete. 353 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 5: That's the one thing I know about the kid. He'd 354 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 5: go out there and compete and compete. 355 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 4: He did. So they did a great job in the 356 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:29,239 Speaker 4: back end. 357 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 5: But I knew that they were going to do that 358 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 5: based on the pass rush and also just the game 359 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 5: plan going in and what vance Joseph was gonna call. 360 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 4: So I was I'm really impressed with this group as 361 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 4: a whole. 362 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 5: But like I said, they don't get and they being 363 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 5: the entire defense and Vance Joseph the credit they deserve nationally. 364 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 5: So I want to take this time to make sure 365 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 5: that that's what you gave them. 366 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 3: I'm happy to give them that love. 367 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: How did you think the secondary played, Dave? 368 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 6: I thought the game plan was good. I feel like 369 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 6: Vance felt like he could pressure a quarterback with four 370 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 6: and if you can do that on a consistent basis, 371 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 6: and they did, and you can use seven in the 372 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 6: back end to play a variety of different coverages, makes 373 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 6: it makes it hard. I think Denver looked at the 374 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 6: Houston offensive line and said, we're gonna win this matchup 375 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 6: like at all four spots. So now I thought it 376 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 6: was good. I thought I thought Chris Abram's dream was good. 377 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,719 Speaker 6: I thought Moss was good. I thought Jahanny barn came in, 378 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 6: spelled Chris a little bit, played outside and played inside. 379 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 4: What about the eraser? The eraser? Nu? 380 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 6: Yes, well, listen, I'm a huge Kufunga fan. You know, 381 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 6: he so good. I mean what I like is not 382 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 6: every safety in the NFL. You would think so, but 383 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 6: not every safety is willing to come down hill into 384 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 6: the box fan. 385 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,479 Speaker 3: Not every safety will do it. 386 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 6: But he is one of those dudes, and I must say, 387 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 6: so is Brandon Jones. Now you have a pair of 388 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 6: safeties now, and I know that Nico Collins, you know, 389 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 6: they got called for the infraction. 390 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 3: Did Brandon on the hit? 391 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 6: But that's a hit that teams playing the Broncos in 392 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 6: the next couple of days or a week or they'll 393 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 6: watch that video and say, the receivers will watch that 394 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 6: and say, Okay, I want I want to make sure 395 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 6: I know where twenty two is. 396 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 3: So two really stout safeties. 397 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 4: That's what we call live wires, no doubt about it. 398 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: Two of them, all right, Robin Rollly here on a 399 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 2: victory Monday, very excited to be here with you. By 400 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 2: the way, moments ago, Walt Weiss is going to be 401 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 2: the next manager of the Atlanta Braves. 402 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 3: Wow. 403 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 2: So good for Wal. Good for Wal good Man, good stuff. 404 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 2: We're still waiting on the Rockies. I actually read a 405 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 2: report today very quickly. I read a report today that 406 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 2: the two finalists for their head of Baseball operations are 407 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: now not finalists. They had two guys that were earmarked 408 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 2: outside of the organization that they'd interviewed, they'd brought in 409 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 2: for final interviews last week, and according to the Athletic 410 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 2: they are no longer finalists. 411 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 3: So we're back to square one. Okay, so your game. 412 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 3: I hadn't read that, just in case you are feeling it. 413 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,239 Speaker 3: You could, you know. I don't know if you need 414 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 3: another job at this point. No, no, I don't. No, 415 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 3: I don't believe me. I'm good, You're good, all right, 416 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 3: all right, we're off early here to victory. 417 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 2: Money, very excited to be here with you. Will come 418 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: back and continue breaking this game down. 419 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: Coming up next, hand off, straight ahead again and again 420 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: the stop on Britty's Brooks. 421 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 4: No signal yet. 422 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: No, they're gonna marking short of the goal line. The 423 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:47,239 Speaker 1: Broncos defense with a tremendous goal line stand and it 424 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: is fourth down in goal. 425 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 3: That goal line stands. It's a difference in the game. Yes, 426 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 3: it really is. It really is. 427 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 2: They score a touchdown there and it does change the complexion. 428 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 2: Although once again for this team, I feel like we 429 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 2: can't really assess anything about anything until the fourth quarter. 430 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 3: Right, So we say it changed the game, but that 431 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 3: was like the first quarter. Yeah, but who knows. But 432 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 3: that's the defense. Yeah, that's sure. Defense is not going 433 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 3: to defense can't. 434 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 6: Afford to wait until the fourth quarter, and the offense 435 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 6: really can't either on a consistent basis. But defensively, if 436 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 6: you can't get anything going to the first three quarters, 437 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 6: usually quarters, you're usually about twenty four points down. 438 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 5: You know what, the one thing I love about Greenlawn 439 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 5: you just mentioned it is this the toughness and its 440 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 5: tenacity and the willingness to sacrifice one's body. And that's 441 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 5: the way we think about it defensively opposed to our 442 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 5: offensive counterparts that while they are trying to avoid tackles, 443 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 5: you know, we're trying to make them. It's kind of like, 444 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 5: in my mind, the fireman's kind of mentality. No mean, 445 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 5: if there's a burning building, the firemen are running, people 446 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 5: are running out, the firemen are run in. Defensively, you 447 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 5: have to have that type of mentality. What are you 448 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 5: willing to give up in sacrifice? And nine times out 449 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 5: of ten is your body to make a stop like that. 450 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 5: So he was key in making that goal line stop. 451 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: Remarkable, really good performance. Wellcome back to this second. I 452 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 2: do want to ask you, Dave, before you get out 453 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 2: of here about the the World Series. 454 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 3: As I know you're a big baseball guy. Yep. 455 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 2: So it was out one of the weirdest, most awesome 456 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 2: Game seven's that you've ever seen in your entire life. 457 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 2: There are so many moments in it that that really 458 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: could have gone either way. But you got the homer 459 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 2: virol hostin the ninth, You've got was it Paugus tackling 460 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 2: his hernandez the outfield for the final out of the ninth, 461 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 2: and then you got Will Smith of course later on. 462 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,479 Speaker 2: I mean, it was just there was so much drama 463 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 2: that the heel coming off the plate and. 464 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 3: Then you put it right back, they put it right 465 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 3: back on the slide. What was your takeaway from Game seven? 466 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 3: I thought it was musty TV right, it was. 467 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 6: There were so many ups and downs in that game, 468 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 6: and I thought, I really thought Toronto might might win 469 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 6: Game seven. And then when Bashett hits the three run homer, 470 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 6: I'm thinking, okay, but the Dodgers have been great. 471 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 3: All year long, and just finding the long ball. 472 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 6: You think of the eighteen to Inny game, which was 473 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 6: game whatever game that was in the World Series that 474 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 6: was that no. 475 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 3: When on six it was a. 476 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 6: Three yeah, I think, I think yeah, And Freddy Freeman 477 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 6: hits the home run to win it. 478 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 3: They just I'll put it to you this way. When 479 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 3: Toronto had the. 480 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 6: Bases loaded in the bottom of the tenth or eleventh 481 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 6: with one out, I said to myself, if if they 482 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 6: don't win it here, the Dodgers are going to win 483 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 6: it because the Dodgers were more likely They've got more 484 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 6: guys that with a swing of the bat can hit 485 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 6: the ball out of the park. Now the home run 486 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 6: in the bottom in the top of the ninth with 487 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 6: one out and the Dodgers down one and and Hoffman, 488 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 6: the former Rocky on the mountad for the Blue Jays. 489 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 6: You know, that's you don't want to give him something 490 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 6: down and end that he can yank. You want to 491 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 6: make sure to me that he that's to the outside 492 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 6: third of the plate. 493 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 3: But that's that's the beauty of baseball. 494 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 6: Sometimes the ball doesn't go where you intended to go. 495 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 6: So I was pulling for the Blue Jays. But credit 496 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 6: the Dodgers for some big, big moments. And then defensively, yes, 497 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 6: you know the catch where the outfielders ran into each other. 498 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 3: I mean they just they made a ton of plays. 499 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 5: I actually show I called my son and I showed 500 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 5: him that pious play, and I say, well, there are 501 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 5: two teammates, both in the same position. One wanted the 502 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 5: ball more than the other, and sometimes you have to 503 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 5: run over teammates to make a play. 504 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 3: Even in baseball, even in baseball. 505 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 4: Right, it's where's your sense of urgency? 506 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 5: I could wait and let him possibly catch it, or 507 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 5: I can take over it and I can catch the 508 00:24:58,480 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 5: damn ball. 509 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 4: And that's exactly what pie is this? 510 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 3: What if it hurt Hernandez? 511 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 4: So what run faster? I mean, it's the same way 512 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 4: to hurt her Dan. 513 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 3: Like, what if he takes out Hernandez. That's a real 514 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 3: thing I got. You got to find a way to 515 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 3: catch the ball. Yes, well he didn't have a chance. 516 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 3: Came in there had a chance. 517 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 5: Okay, no, no, no, Piez came in and asserted himself 518 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 5: and say, you know what, I'm gonna make the catch. 519 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 4: They definitely got to play defense. 520 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,479 Speaker 5: When when I played for the Broncos, you're gonna make 521 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 5: the tackle or you're not. It's the same thing you 522 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 5: make the player who don't. I mean, come on, coach, 523 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 5: back me up. I either you're going to make the 524 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 5: open field tackle or pick up the fomble or get 525 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 5: the interception, or you're gonna miss an opportunity. 526 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 4: I'm with the guy in Salmon. 527 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 5: Usually are make the play, Ryan, make the play and don't. 528 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 3: Worry about if you're gonna hurt him. Yes, hello, well. 529 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 2: Obviously wasn'torried about it. I'll just say, like you're not 530 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 2: usually used to contact him. 531 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 3: If you don't, If you don't make that catch, the 532 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 3: game's over series. 533 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 4: That's right, that's right, right, run him over, run him over. 534 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 3: It is lack of communication in the outfield. I'm sure 535 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 3: it's loud. 536 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 6: Blue Jay fans are on their feet because they think 537 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 6: here it is World Series champions right here. So the 538 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 6: center fielder is running for all he's worth. 539 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 3: I don't know. 540 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 6: That the left fielder was going to make that play. 541 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 6: He might have, but I think it would have been 542 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 6: a very very difficult catch. It was like making an over. 543 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 3: The show really tough. 544 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 2: No, listen, you know we talked about process and results. 545 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 2: I mean, the result is what it is. And they 546 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: went on to win the World Series and ran over 547 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 2: and this trucked a lot of discussion quickly on this, 548 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 2: a lot of discussion after the fact, of course, because 549 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 2: the Dodgers payroll back to back champions. Now they I mean, 550 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 2: they didn't even actually spend the most in baseball last year. 551 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 3: It was actually the Mets. 552 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 2: But you know, once again that that comes up, right, 553 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 2: we talked about salary caps and salary floors and all 554 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 2: those kinds of things. Do you think baseball, I don't know, 555 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 2: this was captivating. I don't come out of this thing 556 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 2: thinking like, boy, they really paid for that championship. 557 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 6: I just thought it was great entertainment for me. Yeah, 558 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 6: I thought it was. I thought it was great entertainment 559 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 6: as well. I think that's the first repeat champion in 560 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 6: the National League since the Big Red Machine in the 561 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 6: mid seventies. 562 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 3: So even though payrolls for I don't know, four or. 563 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 6: Five teams are really high, it seems like we've seen 564 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 6: different teams win the World Series, right, It hasn't. 565 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 3: Always been the Met, well, the. 566 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 6: Mets at all, the Dodgers, the Cubs, the Yankees, the Phillies. 567 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 6: So yeah, I understand the sentiment, but I don't know 568 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 6: the Major League Baseball will change it by way. 569 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 2: Toronto's number five on this list, Like, so it's the Mets, 570 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 2: the Dodgers, Yankees, Phillies, and the Jays. But once again, 571 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 2: that's also kind of proved the point that you do 572 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 2: need to spend to be there, put yourself in position 573 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 2: to do it. 574 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 3: But you know last last year, were they not? I 575 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 3: would think that they finished last and American League they did, Yes, 576 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 3: they did. 577 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't guarantee and the mess missed playoff altogether, 578 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 2: so it doesn't guarantee you anything. So that that's why 579 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 2: I feel like that argument tends to fall flow. 580 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 5: The biggest story is is pitching, right, You're very true. 581 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 5: Look at the pitching. 582 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a moto. 583 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 4: Oh my god. 584 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 2: Ninety six pitches, yeah, ninety six pitches in game six? 585 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 6: Hold on, Yeah, he came in. I was thinking, this 586 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 6: is not going to be good for Toronto. I mean, 587 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,959 Speaker 6: he'd just been lights out. The only hope you had 588 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 6: if you were a Toronto fan was that he had 589 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 6: pitched the night before. 590 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and through ninety some odd pitches. 591 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 6: Right, But but it wasn't like Toronto ever seemingly figured 592 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 6: him out. 593 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 2: Oh no, ever, No, not at all. And uh I 594 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 2: love that about Game seven. I was talking to a 595 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 2: temper about it yesterday morning before the game. I love 596 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 2: that where you're you're throwing up starters like I mean, 597 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 2: you don't even care at that point. 598 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 3: I mean, there is no tomorrow. 599 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: I know you pitched ninety six, yeahyesterday doesn't matter. 600 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 3: He went two and two thirds. Yeah, you knew when 601 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 3: they got the lead, you knew he was coming back out. 602 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 5: Yes, right, Yeah, that's the sacrifice that you pay in sports. 603 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 3: Tip of the Captain Dave Roberts too pushed all the 604 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 3: right buttons there. 605 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 4: Yes, I mean the change up in the outfield. 606 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 5: Yes, I mean Miguel Rojas in that spot. And even 607 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 5: Mookie Best was just like, well, he only had seven 608 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 5: home runs all season long. 609 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 4: And he came up in that spot and he was silent. 610 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,719 Speaker 4: It was like it blew their minds. 611 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 3: And then he said to run on the defense. 612 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 5: Oh man, that run that he saved. I had called 613 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 5: my son back. You gotta see this, you gotta see this. 614 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 4: I'm screaming. I'm not even a Dodgers fan. 615 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 5: And the fact that he caught the ball and he 616 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 5: was stumbling trying to get it to home plate, was 617 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 5: still was able to get that. And that's the thing 618 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 5: that made that World Series so phenomenal. And I'm glad 619 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 5: how I was allowed to see it was because there 620 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 5: were so many heroes. 621 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 3: Yes, on both sides. 622 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 2: I really thought it was gonna line up for or 623 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 2: and again it was a former Rocky the closer Hofin. Yeah, 624 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 2: thank you, Jeff Hoffin. So I thought it was gonna 625 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 2: be show Hayo Tani versus Jeff Hoffin. Like I thought 626 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 2: Jeff would get the first two outs, and we were 627 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 2: like setting up for this unbelievable moment was Sho Hao 628 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 2: Tani versus Jeff Hoffman for the World Series, And we 629 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 2: didn't get that because Rojas hit the home run and 630 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 2: then it didn't really matter at that point. 631 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 5: Butman's face, Oh, I know, this is why sports are 632 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 5: the best. It took the air out of the arena 633 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 5: in Toronto, really remarkable. 634 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 2: It's a little bit I have Beholder right say, well, 635 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 2: you're winning games. It's hard to win in the NFL. 636 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 2: That's very true. And then the other side of it 637 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 2: is this doesn't look like one of the most dominant teams. 638 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 2: And you see another team that has the same winning 639 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 2: streak and the Patriots, and it's like, wow, Drake Mays 640 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 2: is amazing and the Patriots are phenomenal, and I think 641 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 2: that there. 642 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 3: Are levels to all of it. 643 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 2: On those two teams just had a curiosity Nick, you're 644 00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 2: an objective observer here, Yes, which one do you believe 645 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 2: in more? The Patriots of the Broncos Right now? 646 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 5: I'm gonna believe in the Broncos more. And like I said, 647 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 5: this may not be something that everyone agrees with, but 648 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 5: the reason I'm leaning eavery on the Broncos is because 649 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 5: of the defense. The defense has continuously kept them in 650 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 5: so many games this season. And when you look at 651 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 5: the Patriots, they look like more of a complete team. 652 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 5: So I can understand the argument and why people are 653 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 5: probably talking about Drake May and MVP, you know, conversations. 654 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 5: That's why they look like a complete team. And we're 655 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 5: talking about on all three phases. We have yet to 656 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 5: see the Broncos play on all three phases against a 657 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 5: team that is above average on offense and defense. And 658 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 5: the reason why you are hearing so many people maybe 659 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 5: downplay the Denver Broncos is because when you look at 660 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 5: the teams that they have beaten, right, like like they 661 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 5: scored a lot of points against. You think about the 662 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 5: Dallas Cowboys, you think about the Cincinnati Bengals, right and 663 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 5: it's just like, oh wow, even they struggled on the 664 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 5: nationally Talibay's game over in London against the Jets, who 665 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 5: were winless until they beat Cincinnati. That's why the conversation 666 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 5: is what it is, and I understand. 667 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 4: It because expectations. 668 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 5: Sometimes it's hard to compete against the expectations and the 669 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 5: standard that was set before Sean Payton arrived, and that's 670 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 5: what this team is competing against. 671 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 2: And I respect that, and especially because he said things 672 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 2: like top five quarterback and feeling as though that the 673 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 2: offense and you're an offensive coach, should be maybe a 674 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 2: little further along. And like I said, I can understand 675 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 2: that if you set your expectations there. But I've seen 676 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 2: plenty of teams that are top offenses in the league 677 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 2: to have a difficult time winning. And I think I'd 678 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 2: rather be on this side of it. While you're still 679 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 2: trying to improve, You're still trying to figure things out. 680 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,479 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like your stagnant and there's nowhere 681 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 2: to go from where you are. We've seen this team 682 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 2: win with some pretty big offensive performances. I mean, just 683 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 2: two weeks he wins Downs Rights. 684 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 685 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 5: But Ryan, at the same time, that Dallas defense statistically 686 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 5: was was kind of at the bottom of every defense 687 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 5: of statistical category. 688 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 3: So let me let me understand this. 689 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 2: As you moved the goal post here too, like everybody else. O, No, 690 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 2: you absolutely are. 691 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 8: I'm just telling you what accident exists as you're moving 692 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 8: the goal post, just like everybody else. 693 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 7: Oh. 694 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 8: So you needed you needed, you needed the high, high 695 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 8: offensive output against this Texans defense in order to believe 696 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 8: in what direction they're going. 697 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 4: What we needed to see. 698 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 5: More of an output. Like you said to yourself when 699 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 5: you were talking about Sean Payton, right, what were the 700 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 5: expectations that were set? Remind me you just said it. 701 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, he said the bonus could be the top five quarterback. 702 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 2: And this is a super Bowl caliber. 703 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 5: Team, right, and all of that is based upon the 704 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 5: production of the offense. 705 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 3: They are a top ten offense right now. 706 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 5: Okay, have you seen historically over the past eight quarters 707 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 5: that the offense looked the way that those numbers would indicate, 708 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 5: not for. 709 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 3: All eight quarters now exactly. 710 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 4: And that's what that's all I'm saying. 711 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 5: And I'm sure individuals who are driving around listening they're 712 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 5: saying the same thing. 713 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 4: It's like, you're not trying to put the team down. Yes, 714 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 4: the team won, it's victory. 715 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 5: Money yes, okay, we like that, but we can't overlook 716 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 5: that the fact that at this stage of the game 717 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 5: of the season, the offense still is not where they 718 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 5: need to be. And this is the scary part, and 719 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,280 Speaker 5: I said this last week, this is the scary part 720 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 5: about this Broncos team, the unknown, because if the offense 721 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 5: at some point catches up with the defense and the 722 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 5: level of production, man, this thing is not even going. 723 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 4: To be close. 724 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 2: I ultimately think a lot of this just comes down 725 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 2: to a decade of miserable offensive play here in Denver, 726 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 2: and a lot of Broncos fans are afraid. They are 727 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 2: there's just this thing hanging over their head. They're afraid 728 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 2: that if I buy into this and it ends up 729 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 2: being just like it's been before, then where am I at? 730 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 4: I don't think it's Ryan. It's not a thing of 731 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 4: if I buy in. 732 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 5: The whole thing was they bought in the start the season, 733 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 5: They bought in last year, and they were anticipating that 734 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 5: there was gonna be a jump offensively in Bobonix's second year. 735 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 3: Still could come see. 736 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 4: Once again, still can come. 737 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 5: And some of those fans are thinking, well, we should 738 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 5: see remnants of that by this time. 739 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 2: All right, So we come back. We have lots to 740 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 2: get to in the next hour. Ian Raperport's going to 741 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 2: join us. Next we'll get into Demico, Ryan's being a hypocrite, 742 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 2: and also we'll continue to break down the defense and 743 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 2: how great they were, because I know Nick wants to 744 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 2: talk about that. 745 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 3: We'll get to all the next