1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: You're listening to you, Well, we're gonna get I want 2 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: to talk to Steve Cusa, the great New York Post writer. 3 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: He writes about real estate, he writes about restaurants, and 4 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: you know, all these people tell everybody's leaving New York, 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: everybody's fleeing. New York is dying, it's empty, everybody's getting killed, 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: restaurants are Well, let's get to the let's get to 7 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: the expert and get the real story. Here you can 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: read Steve Cuso's columns in the New York Post. They're 9 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: all up on the New York Post website. Steve Cuzo, 10 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: How you doing? Hey, good morning, Mark, How are you 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: doing very good? Now? Uh, you go around New York, 12 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: You're stuck in traffic. Is the sidewalks the crowded. It's 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 1: not dying, is it? 14 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 2: Not exactly? Yeah, I hope you guys can hear me. 15 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: I'm downtown and there's like all sorts of construction and 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: traffic and yeah like that. 17 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: That's another thing. These real estate guys are building like crazy. 18 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: So obviously we have a good future, don't we. 19 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. I live on the Upper East Side, or I 20 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: like to call it the Upper Cheap Side, which means 21 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: First Avenue, and you know First Avenue, second Avenue, third 22 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 2: Avenue is like a building going up on every corner, 23 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: it seems. 24 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, you got massive skyscrapers, real tall, but going 25 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: up Park Avenue in the fifty third well yeah, yeah, yeah, 26 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: fifty eighth. So everybody's investing in New York. And what 27 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: about some of these empty office buildings converting them to apartments? 28 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: Is that going to actually happen? 29 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's unbelievable. I mean, there are so 30 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 2: many buildings that are being converted to apartments now. When 31 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: this trend started some years ago, it was mostly you know, 32 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: these old, antiquated, beat up, old buildings down in the 33 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: you know, Wall Street area that they were antique, nobody 34 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 2: wanted them anymore. But now this has spread way uptown 35 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: all over Midtown. There are buildings that aren't even that 36 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: old that are being turned into apartments. For example, one 37 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: thirty fifty seventh Street, corner of Lexington Avenue. That's a modern, 38 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: modern building. It went up in the late eighties and 39 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: it's being converted to apartments. So there's plenty of that 40 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: going on. 41 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, And these guys wouldn't do that if they didn't 42 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: have people demand. So and it's rental apartments are going 43 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: crazy right now, isn't that true? 44 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're crazy if everybody's complaining, Oh, you 45 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: can't get an apartment for less than four thousand a month. True? 46 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 2: True enough, to which I say, half tongue in cheek, 47 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 2: take a second job, you know, quit whining. 48 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. So, hey, the dining outdoor dining began this week. 49 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: They're allowed. Now are these sheds going to come back 50 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: all over the sidewalks? 51 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 2: I've lost track of what's going on. They're back. No, 52 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 2: First of all, I haven't followed this that closely. Yeah, 53 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 2: they're sort of back, but not that many restaurants applied 54 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: for the outdoor seating, nothing like you know a couple 55 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: of years ago during COVID, and people haven't applied for 56 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: a number of reasons. You know, you need all kinds 57 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 2: of city approvals. There's all sorts of reasons why. First 58 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 2: of all, the city will tie you up and not 59 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: you have to deal with nineteen different agencies. It's supposed 60 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 2: to be the Departiament of Transportation that's in charge, which 61 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: it is, but they have to interact with the you know, 62 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:31,279 Speaker 2: with the fire Department, with the Health Department, all these agencies. 63 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of hesitation on the part of 64 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: restaurant owners. They don't want to have to go through 65 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: this again. But meanwhile, you've got the Hospitality Alliance, my 66 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: friend Andrew Ridgie pushing for even more, you know, and 67 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: city council people want to have year round outdoor seating. 68 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: I don't think we need that, but yeah, you'll be 69 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 2: seeing some of these. It's a moot point unless the 70 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: weather it's any better. It still feels like winter today. 71 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: I don't care what the forecast said. And we're going 72 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: to Florida on Tuesday and I can't wait to get 73 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: out of here. 74 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: Oh look, where are you going to Florida? 75 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: Oh? The usual round, you know, the usual milk from 76 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 2: Palm Beach, Delray Beach, and Miami Beach. Okay, three beaches. 77 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: Now, Palm Beach has got a million restaurants opening, but 78 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: they're all from New York. They're all from the Hamptons, 79 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: they're all from the. 80 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 2: Well, not all of them. The big place down there 81 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 2: now it's called Polo something, Polo Lounge. Polo. 82 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a guy that worked for It's a guy 83 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: that worked for Ralph Lauren. He gave him a permission 84 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: to use the Polo name down there? 85 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: Is that right? Anyway? I'm looking forward to going because 86 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 2: everybody says it's the hottest place and food's great, YadA YadA, 87 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: sol and the watch. We'll get down there and the 88 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: weather will stink. But when you travel, that's that's part 89 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: of black. 90 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: Hey, Steve Kusa, you wrote this cameo. A certain food 91 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: just comes to New York goes viral. It's a big deal. Uh. 92 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: You wrote about sushi push pops. Explain that. 93 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 2: So there's a new place called Suka Sushi. It's a 94 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,799 Speaker 2: little storefront. It's on Lexington Avenue in twenty fifth I think. 95 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: And they have a gimmick. Everybody's got a gimmick. Now. 96 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: There's all sorts of weird things going on, and this 97 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 2: one is pop up sushi rolls. So you get a container, 98 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: you get a cylindrical container containing the sushi rolls, and 99 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 2: there's a thin tube attached to it, like the tubes 100 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: that you take board with that's filled with soy sauce. 101 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: And you start by you're supposed to break the skinny 102 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: tube off from the big tube, and then you pry 103 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: the lid off the thick tube, and then you pour 104 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: the soy sauce from the skinny tube into the thick 105 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 2: tube with the sushi rolls. And then you're supposed to 106 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 2: take the excuse me, the thin tube and stick it 107 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: into the bottom of the thick tube and put sh 108 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: it up. And what happens is and I did a 109 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 2: video about this. You can see it online on the 110 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: New York Post website. You push up the sushi rolls, 111 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: which actually taste pretty good, and out they come on top. 112 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: It looks ridiculous, and it is ridiculous. And the big 113 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 2: problem with it is that I made a mess, and 114 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 2: most people are going to make a mess with it too. Yeah, 115 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: you've got to be very nimble fingered not to not 116 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 2: to spill everything all over yourself, and to make it work. 117 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: There are no chopsticks, there are no utensils, so you 118 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: basically have to eat the damn thing with your mouth 119 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 2: as you walk. It's not like eating a hotluck or 120 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 2: a slice of pizza. That's easy. We all do that. 121 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 2: This is a this is a new level of you know, 122 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: skilled that you need so good luck. 123 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: Well, it's but there's all of these things that come 124 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: along they go viral, they're great for Instagram and TikTok, 125 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: and then they're gone in a year. 126 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: This will be yeah, it's all about TikTok. 127 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, uh hey what is this? Every restaurant now, 128 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: you know, used to have like a guy like Danielle 129 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: would open Danielle Great restaurant, John George would open John 130 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: George and that was But nowadays every restaurant guy, no 131 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: matter who it is, has to have fifty places, seventy 132 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: five places. What caused that trend. 133 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 2: Well, it's been ongoing for years. A lot of people 134 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: love restaurants all over the world. You have celebrity chefs 135 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: and who may be great chefs like excuse me, like 136 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: Danielle Blue, and you have others who are just big 137 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 2: names even though they're not that good. And you have 138 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: these companies. Very often it's Wall Street money, hedge funds, 139 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 2: guys like that want to invest in restaurants. It's fun. 140 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: They see an opportunity to expand to a whole bunch 141 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: of cities, and if they can pull that off, they 142 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 2: can get very rich. The catch, of course, is that 143 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: just because a restaurant has the name of a certain 144 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,239 Speaker 2: famous chef or a restaurant you like a carbone or whatever, 145 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: doesn't mean that the places that have that name in 146 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 2: you know, in Hong Kong, ch Cargo, wherever it may be, 147 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: will be as good as the ones that you know 148 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: that started out in New York. 149 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: Also, if you got if you're a great restaurant guy, 150 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: a great chef, let's not mention any New York nas 151 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: Let's pick a foreign name. If you're Gordon Ramsay and 152 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: you got one restaurant in London, it's the greatest restaurant. 153 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: You make sure it's a great, But once you have 154 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five restaurants, they all become kind 155 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: of mediocre because you can't keep an eye on everything. 156 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, I mean they make the pretense of, oh, 157 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: I'm always there, I come around every week, but that's 158 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: physically impossible. And again, some of them give a better 159 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 2: account of it than others. I've never been to a 160 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 2: Danielle Balloon restaurant anywhere that wasn't at least good. I've 161 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: never been to a restaurant that carries Jean George von 162 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 2: Garrichton's name that isn't really good. So yeah, again it's 163 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 2: up to how what commitment the chef is willing and 164 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: able to make. 165 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: But now, if you're John George, you spent all day 166 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: in a car driving from restaurant to restaurant to restaurant. 167 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: You gotta go to thirty places. 168 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: A day, and they do in Manhattan, absolutely, they do. 169 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: Well. Have a good trip in Florida. And are you 170 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 1: going to Miami too? Right? 171 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna make the whole East Coast. 172 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: Right. So I look at Miami restaurants Instagram. They look 173 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: spectacular is food wise, They're not any better than New York, 174 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: are they? 175 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 2: I'm sorry which ones mark? 176 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 1: Any all the top Miami restaurants they look spectacular, but 177 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 1: food wise. 178 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 2: Some of them are. Some of them are really good. 179 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 2: I mean I've been to not Carbone, but the other 180 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 2: restaurant owned by the same people, major food group in 181 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: Miami last year. It was just wonderful. It's an Italian restaurant. 182 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 2: I just can't remember the name. So, you know, with 183 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 2: vtteries and the restaurants in Las Vegas are mostly all terrific. 184 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well, great stuff. Everybody reads Steve Cuzo 185 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: in The New York Post. His columns are all up 186 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: in The New York Post website and Steve Cuzo, thanks 187 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: for being with us. 188 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 2: Thanks Locke, always fun. Thank you. 189 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: Take care. Now, right over there, as you go over 190 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: to Seventh Avenue, there was Rosio Grady's. Remember that it 191 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 1: was a big, big, enormous saloon. It's like the whole 192 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: block long it was in. It closed. Everybody was upset 193 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: about that. It was a big place. So apparently that's 194 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: going to become a Serafina at the Italian restaurant, but 195 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: not the regular Serafina, a concept kind of restaurant. And 196 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: Michael Lomonico, the great Chef, he had one of the 197 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: best steakhouses in Columbus Circle Time Warners Center. He's going 198 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: to run it. So that's great news. But you see, 199 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: that's what I mean. When Rosio Grady's closed, and that 200 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: was a big tourist place. Everything you see New York 201 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: is dying. It just well now it's about the reopen 202 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: is an even more incredible restaurant. So every time something closes, 203 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: something else opens. You got massive skyscrapers going up everywhere, 204 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: You got all the top restaurant guys opening everywhere. New 205 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: York is booming. All these real estate companies wouldn't be 206 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: buying up properties, building skyscrapers. If they didn't believe in 207 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: the future of New York. Hey, don't forget Curtis Lee. 208 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: What is back? He's here now every morning with Larry Minty. 209 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: It's Curtis and Larry every morning six to ten here 210 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: on seven ten WR