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Speaker 1: From the fish filled Midwest lakes to the deep woods

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Speaker 1: of the North Upland prairies filled with pheasants, to the

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Speaker 1: whistling wings of duck ponds. This is Saturday Morning, Fan Outdoors,

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Speaker 1: your show for hunting and fishing tips, topics and conversations.

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Speaker 1: You can also send us a question or opinion by

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Speaker 1: emailing us booth at kfean dot com. Here's your host,

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Speaker 1: the Fans, Captain Billy Hildegram.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, it is

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Speaker 2: Saturday morning. We have made it to yet one more weekend.

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Speaker 3: Not just one more weekend. It's a special one.

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Speaker 2: A special one more weekend. That is the voice of

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Speaker 2: the man who is a real specialist when it comes

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Speaker 2: to tree ruts. Here we go.

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Speaker 3: This is gonna be a special episode of Fan Outdoors,

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Speaker 3: is it?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: That was probably that had to be a cabin cast

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Speaker 3: when because you had because you had dropped and I

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Speaker 3: of the moment. And yes, I talked about tree ruts. Yep,

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Speaker 3: do you remember what I was referring to? This is

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Speaker 3: this is what sixteen years ago.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember the specific if I could just remember.

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Speaker 3: The I remember pretty specifically. I don't know why my

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Speaker 3: mind went to this. When you dropped at the cabin,

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Speaker 3: I was in studio and we had no guest. We

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Speaker 3: And uh, for some reason I had my mind went

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Speaker 3: to aspen colonies, which happens to be there's an aspen

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Speaker 3: same The largest organism on the planet. I can't believe

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Speaker 3: you got me talking tree roots again, right out again,

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Speaker 3: I have no interest in The largest living organism on

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Speaker 3: the planet is a colony of aspen in Colorado. So

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Speaker 3: that's why my mind went to tree Well, I don't

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Speaker 3: know why my mind went to tree roots, but that's

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Speaker 3: what I was different.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, we we're excited for you.

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Speaker 3: He had bored you once again. We didn't even lose

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Speaker 3: we didn't even lose connection.

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Speaker 2: No, we didn't. But Bob was talking about a special weekend,

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Speaker 2: a special Saturday beginning at nine o'clock and.

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Speaker 3: That is because it's the Minnesota Peasant Opener, correct, correct,

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Speaker 3: And it's also the Resident Peasant Open in South Dakota

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Speaker 3: and the North Dakota Pheasant Opener.

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Speaker 2: So there take that.

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Speaker 3: So there's a lot of stuff going on if you're

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Speaker 2: And when I was in I went to town yesterday

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Speaker 2: basically it. But when I was there, I noticed a

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Speaker 2: thank you, he said, but he doesn't hunt, and I said, oh,

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Speaker 2: that's too bad. Well he says, that's not really true.

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Speaker 2: He's never had a chance, he says, because I quit

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Speaker 2: They're a big run on dog, do, aren't they.

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Speaker 2: And I've been out. We'll talk about this this morning too.

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Speaker 2: I've been out a number of times when Bob Bob

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Speaker 2: has been swinging from state to state, and but I've

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Speaker 2: And it took me, uh, it took me probably a

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Speaker 2: go for a walk, and you're walking in the grass.

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Speaker 2: That's totally totally different than just walking down a sidewalk

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Speaker 3: Peasant hunting is totally different walking than hunting sharp tails

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Speaker 2: And one of the things I learned in talking with

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Speaker 2: because he says you're sitting on a mussel and that

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Speaker 2: you sacarilia. I can't remember what it is, but you're

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Speaker 2: sitting on a mussel and it pinches it. And sure

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Speaker 2: enough I had my right knee was really, really sore.

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Speaker 2: And after a couple of weeks of taking my wallet

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Speaker 2: for twenty years. Never bothered me. But I just took

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Speaker 2: I gotta find my wallet all the time. That's awful.

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Speaker 3: So sitting on your wallet can cause your knee to

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Speaker 3: be sorry?

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Speaker 2: Is that? I have no idea why. I am not

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Speaker 2: that not that wise. But I took it out and

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Speaker 2: I'll keep it in my front pocket, or I don't

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Speaker 2: keep I don't carry it, I leave it in the car.

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Speaker 2: My knee feels great now now, whether that's in shape

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Speaker 2: or whatever it is, I have no idea either.

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Speaker 3: Do you have it? George to Stanza wallet? Do you

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Speaker 3: know what that means? A big one, A giant one.

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Speaker 3: Think you could fit like a bible in your wallet?

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Speaker 2: No, no, it's not all money either, so I can

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Speaker 2: already tell you that. Yeah, no, not at all. In fact,

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Speaker 2: I this one's wearing out. I'll have to replace it

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Speaker 2: soon because it's turned into strings. But sometimes from time

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Speaker 2: to time I clean it out because I've got some

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Speaker 2: receipts or something in there I think I should keep.

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Speaker 3: But I for your expense report, Yeah I have to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a you have an expense report?

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Speaker 3: Well yeah. Nowadays though, you just take a photo of

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Speaker 3: your receipt and throw the receipt away. Oh, Okay, then

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Speaker 3: you email your RECEIPTO. Yeah, the joys of expense reports captains.

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Speaker 2: Ye, I don't know. That's my expense report is still

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Speaker 2: in my wallet when it's empty, I need to report

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Speaker 2: I needed to refill. But anyway, and this is gosh,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how many years we've done this, but

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Speaker 2: this is kind of an anniversary.

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Speaker 4: Or the.

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Speaker 2: How many years that we've opened the pheasant season here?

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, I want to say it's seventeen something something

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Speaker 3: in that neighborhood that is. I think I started doing

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Speaker 3: radio with you the first year I got Trammel, and

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Speaker 3: I think that was eight. And I want to say

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Speaker 3: I came up here with no I hunted by myself

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Speaker 3: I came up this direction by myself with Trammel, and

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Speaker 3: it is you know, there's a wildlife area just to

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Speaker 3: I had gotten her first two roosters ever, and then

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Speaker 3: when I had been coming here with you with my

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Speaker 3: subsequent dogs, three dogs in a row have pointed and

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Speaker 3: retrieved there, which means I actually hit it their first

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Speaker 2: There's another story we could retell well.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure that I'll come up at some point, but

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Speaker 3: my first three bird dogs got pointed and retrieved their

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Speaker 3: the course of seven years apart. My most recent pop

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Speaker 3: Gitch did not get her first rooster here, she actually

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Speaker 2: A rooster road trip.

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Speaker 3: But winter it will be making her pheasant hunting debut

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Speaker 3: this morning. So at some point I'm gonna sneak away

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Speaker 3: from you, that's fine, and go take a walk down

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Speaker 2: And if you're listening and you're either going pheasant hunting

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Speaker 2: bird is something that's very memorable, Oh gosh, And I

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Speaker 2: really don't care if it's the first duck a water

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Speaker 2: retrieve or if it's first fez and to the first

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Speaker 2: that it's no secret either bird dogs don't live the

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Speaker 2: and that's pretty important. It gives you the opportunity experience

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Speaker 2: truly are individuals. Really really are no two dogs that

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Speaker 2: I've had have ever been to say that the truth.

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Speaker 3: They are so different, yes, and how you interact with

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Speaker 3: them or how they interact with you is so different.

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Speaker 3: It makes me giggle.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: They Yeah, some of them are just goofs. Others are

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Speaker 3: all business. They have different talents. You have some super

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Speaker 3: Stylists they go on point with the tail held high

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Speaker 3: straight up. Others are just goofy, you know. They nuzzle

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Speaker 3: India and they're your best buddies. Gosh, they're awesome.

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Speaker 2: And each dog, when they get on a scent, react

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: Uh, it's that you've got to learn that there's a

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Speaker 2: dog guy, gal, a dog person. Each dog is a

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Speaker 2: little bit different, and you've got to figure that out.

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Speaker 2: They can't sit down and write on a notebook. Here's

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Speaker 2: what I do when and what I'm what I got

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Speaker 2: you when I found it.

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Speaker 3: It's always equate it. I'm not a big poker player,

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Speaker 3: but it's trying to read tells from somebody and the

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Speaker 3: way a dog's tail vibrates. Their wags, Uh, you know

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Speaker 3: what they you know, when they pick up scent, how

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Speaker 3: they move, what they you know, are they quartering their speed?

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Speaker 3: Pick up? Each one is a little bit different.

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Speaker 2: And when they lose a cent, they always and this

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Speaker 2: is multiple dogs I've had, they'll make a big circle

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Speaker 2: pick it up again.

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Speaker 3: Okay, stander is a different life than you and ideal.

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Speaker 6: Ramblings might be here we go and from all like

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Speaker 2: I'm getting some greed.

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Speaker 3: I'm getting a lot of grief.

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Speaker 2: People have noticed Billion Bob's ramblings and it was not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got I've got all kinds of things to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've learned a lesson. Was tree roots on there?

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Speaker 3: That's crazy. Drives them crazy because it's not the easiest

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Speaker 2: I was going to give him mine that spot that

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Speaker 3: Followed the third time dog flushed.

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Speaker 7: The third time I shot it, and then the dog

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

438
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 3: I haven't had that problem with my my short hairs,

439
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 3: but I know a lot of dogs that, you know,

440
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 3: they won't even pick them up, or they'll pick them

441
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 3: up in the minute they get to their owner. They

442
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 3: just spit them on. They don't make me do that again.

443
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 3: I have some hunting buddies that treat treat eating them

444
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 3: like that, so give them to me because I love them.

445
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's one that's kind of a fun thing

446
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 3: about pheasant opener in this area where you can get

447
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 3: a timberdoodle pheasant mixed bag and some of those uh

448
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 3: you know, willow thickets that we go to point, you know,

449
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 3: poking around looking for roosters, and a woodcock blushes out.

450
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 2: And a couple of times that has really saved the

451
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 2: day for me when I've chad and his buddy came out.

452
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 2: We came across, would come and we ended up shooting

453
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: a lot of shells at them. The boy shot a

454
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 2: couple of boxes of shells because they did They wouldn't

455
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: didn't hit them, but they wouldn't go that far. Yeah.

456
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 3: Would you expect a rooster to come out of the

457
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 3: grass and a timber doodle flies. That's a kind of

458
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 3: like what a turkey flush is. It's nothing like a

459
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 3: there's a there's a Parker factor there as were We say.

460
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 2: That's there's nothing like a turkey when you're expecting a peasant.

461
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 3: As you know, I'm well aware of that. It's been

462
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 3: captured in camera multiple times.

463
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: And there is nothing when you're expecting a pheasant or

464
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: the dog come back with a pheasant and get blocked

465
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 2: with a deer.

466
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and knocked down, ran over. I've had many close

467
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 3: calls until what was that the opener twenty twenty three

468
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 3: where I actually got ran over in a cattail slew

469
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 3: after knocking down a rooster and being on the trail

470
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 3: of that BIRDEP and dude came.

471
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: We did.

472
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, the dog went for the bird, and I think

473
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 3: the deer was flushed out by the dog coming into

474
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 3: the cattails to retrieve that bird, and I was going

475
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 3: down a deer trail because I knew I hadn't supposed

476
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 3: to be on his trail. Well clearly, because thankfully it

477
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 3: was a she, because if it was a he, I

478
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 3: think I would have gotten a little injured.

479
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: He would probably have gone out of the out of

480
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: the swamp on on the head of a deer.

481
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, mom, look what I got. It made A couple

482
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 3: of years prior to that, a buddy of mine in

483
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 3: North Dakota, Christopher, we were hunting sharp tails and he

484
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 3: went into a cattail, slew to get across to some

485
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 3: high ground and encountered a cow I think it was

486
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 3: a cow moose. And thankfully that one didn't run down

487
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 3: the same trail, it turned and ran the other way,

488
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 3: because that would have been a different sort of crack block.

489
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 5: Wow.

490
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 2: Wow, Well, we the time goes by really fun billion

491
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: Bob's ramblings two point zero.

492
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: Well we are with a little bit of Eric on

493
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 3: the sign.

494
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, the guy that was studying various ruts is

495
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: going to be up next. Oh okay, so we'll take

496
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 2: that pause and we'll be back with mister Stan tequila.

497
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 2: Find him at nature smart dot com and he will

498
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 2: be with us. He'll be with us for a while,

499
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: and then we'll get back to Billy and Bob.

500
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 3: We're gonna go from routs to ramblings.

501
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: This morning are so everything is good. Nine o'clock we

502
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: will be out on some public land searching for the

503
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: wiley rooster. And I think what people are going to

504
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 2: find today is a lot. That's what I have found.

505
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 2: Everything I have seen our little brown feathered balls of.

506
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 3: Flying some youngsters. After we get there with Stan, I'm

507
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 3: interested to hear what you've been seeing, because you've been

508
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 3: out scouting and you're more optimistic than some years.

509
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,479
Speaker 2: Very true, very And I don't believe the roadside counts

510
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: whatsoever because I just hadn't seen anything until I got

511
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: feet on the ground.

512
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 3: And now you're starting to be a believer, somewhat of

513
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 3: a believer.

514
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 2: I'm going to find out the first stop we make today,

515
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 2: because that'll that would make me a believer. Okay. In fact,

516
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: if I've I was out the same place a couple

517
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: of times and found birds each time, but that will

518
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: get hunted. I promised it's too easy, because that's kind

519
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 2: of way I roll into easy when my legs are tired.

520
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: So we'll take a pause and we'll be back with

521
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 2: Stan Tequila right after this.

522
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 5: Welcome back to Fan Outdoors.

523
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 4: Join now by author, naturalist.

524
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 3: And photographer Stan Tequila.

525
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: Whether it's in Minnesota, Alaska, or Africa, he's always in

526
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 2: search of all things wild and natural. He may even

527
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 2: know more about animals than they do themselves.

528
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 5: And you thought the.

529
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: Cat knew the outdoors, here's fan favorite Stan Tequila on

530
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: Fan Outdoors. Stan, we were just discussing some of our

531
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 2: past conversations about ruts that you were out and studying

532
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: and taking photos of, and I got all kinds of grief,

533
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 2: my friend.

534
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 3: Well, good morning, guys.

535
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 5: How you doing it?

536
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 2: We are, Yeah, a number of family members are here

537
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 2: along with Bob. He's kind of an adopted family member

538
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 2: when it comes to the kinda the pheasant openers. So

539
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: that's what we have been chortling about out.

540
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's what going on with the pheasants.

541
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 4: Is there?

542
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: No, not a lot, an awful lot of little brown

543
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 2: ones do sad mm hmm. But to me, I guess

544
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: that's a second hatch that would come around and the

545
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: first ones would have some color out them. But that's

546
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: good for them because it'll save them until later on

547
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: in the in the season, I hope.

548
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 5: But any way, to have contacted me about having a

549
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 5: exceptionally small turkey poulse running around and small white tailed

550
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 5: deer going around. Yeah, it's been kind of an interesting

551
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 5: year people contacting me with interesting reports like that. Oftentimes,

552
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 5: what happens that when people contact me, uh, then I

553
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 5: forward that on to outdoor News and they like to

554
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 5: print those pictures of people with some unusual things like that.

555
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: Oh sure, interesting, do you think? Yeah? Do you think

556
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: a lot of that is because either like the fawn

557
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: small fawns were dropped late.

558
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 3: Yes, mine mine certainly were at my house.

559
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 5: I have trail camps on them and I'm watching them

560
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 5: all the time, and uh, they they were. They seemed

561
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 5: to be very late this year. But I mean that's

562
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 5: just my area now. Of course, as you know, it's

563
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 5: not general, you know, across the board, it's going to

564
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 5: be something localized those females when they were bred and

565
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 5: and all that. So it's it's it as always in nature,

566
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 5: it's highly variable.

567
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 2: We had with a waterfowl opener. We were up on

568
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 2: some of my son's lease Land and northwestern Minnesota. We

569
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 2: had a big body, a bigger body of water that

570
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 2: we hunted, but a lot of the well six of

571
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: them that came through, they were hooded mergansers. And the

572
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 2: guys have been out there hunting waterfowl for the last

573
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 2: number of years, they have never seen this many hooded

574
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 2: mergansers before. And when they're coming through and over decoys,

575
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: I can't tell the difference, but it was surprising to me.

576
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 2: Would there be a reason there's a large number, larger

577
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: number of them than usual.

578
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 5: It's an interesting trend that I'm seeing with hooded mergansers.

579
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 5: These are a small fish eating duck and they are

580
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 5: They're an interesting species that we hardly ever had them

581
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 5: in the Twin Cities area thirty years ago, and then

582
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, about I don't know, ten years ago,

583
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 5: we started seeing them everywhere, and they literally are popped

584
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 5: up all over the place. And now I see them

585
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 5: not as often as when they first kind of moved

586
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 5: into the area. Doesn't surprise me at all to have

587
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 5: areas that didn't have it all suddenly seeing them and

588
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 5: then again tapering back again. I used to have them

589
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 5: nesting in my yard because I have a bunch of

590
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 5: wood duck boxes up and I would put a camera

591
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 5: in there and monitor them and then I probably haven't

592
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 5: had them in the last six years or seven years.

593
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 5: I haven't had them at all, But I used to

594
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 5: have them there. We would just be enthralled watching them

595
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 5: with a camera inside, you know, getting a live video

596
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 5: feed of them and watching them, you know, incubating and

597
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 5: the baby's hatching and jumping out of the box and

598
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 5: all that. It was actually just kind of an event

599
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 5: for us. And now it's like, okay, now nothing. So yeah,

600
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 5: so it's not surprising.

601
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 3: Very common duck in Lake Michigan area growing up. Yes,

602
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 3: it's a duck that would get a free pass whenever

603
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 3: I was duck cutting because they don't taste very good.

604
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 3: Oh so there you just let them fly by and

605
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 3: hope set a few teal come by because they taste

606
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 3: way better.

607
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: Well I bet they do, yeah, way better. But yeah,

608
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: it's have the has migration slowed down yet standard is

609
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 2: it in full swing?

610
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 5: It seems to have moved out of the Midwest and

611
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 5: moved more towards the East coast. If you, I know

612
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 5: I mentioned before, if you get onto Birdcast and take

613
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 5: a look. You can see where it is a big

614
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 5: shift from the kind of that central flyway to the

615
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 5: more eastern flyway. And I'm looking it up real quick

616
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 5: to see what what numbers we had last night, Uh

617
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 5: coming through. But anytime you have these favorable conditions, you're

618
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 5: going to have a fair amount. But yeah, I'm looking now,

619
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 5: and it's quite a bit to the east, just south

620
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 5: of the Great Lakes, and then to the east is

621
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 5: where we're seeing a lot of that at the most

622
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 5: activity right now. I'm just sorry for being slightly distracted.

623
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 3: So it's three over which Illinois Missouri was the heaviest

624
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 3: last night.

625
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, and last night in my county over just over

626
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 5: three million birds passing over the area. So a fair

627
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 5: pretty good, darn good migration is still going on for

628
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 5: a lot of small birds. For those people who don't

629
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 5: know what we're talking about, a lot of our small songbirds,

630
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 5: or let me just rephrase that, most of our small

631
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 5: songbirds migrate at night, and they will feed during the daytimes,

632
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 5: but then when the favorable conditions are right, they'll take

633
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 5: off slightly after sunset, about an hour or two hours

634
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 5: after sunset, they'll take off and start flying and they'll

635
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 5: fly fairly far. They usually average about anywhere between two

636
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 5: and six thousand feet in elevation when they're flying, and

637
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 5: they fly all night until right about now before sunrise,

638
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 5: and then they'll come down to the ground and then

639
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 5: they'll spend the day feeding and you know, getting ready

640
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 5: for the next night. And so we don't even notice

641
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 5: it because it's you know, at night and they're up

642
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 5: fairly high. I mean the high enough where you wouldn't

643
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 5: see that. You're not going to see something, not going

644
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 5: to see a small bird at you know, three thousand feet.

645
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 5: So they're they're they're migrating over and when the millions

646
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 5: of birds that pass through is really what's remarkable about this.

647
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 5: Like I said, right now, I'm in Carver County and

648
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 5: a little over three million birds from my area. So bo,

649
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 5: did you say you had numbers up for your area?

650
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 3: H No, I was just looking at the mean bird cast. Yeah, yeah,

651
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 3: the main landing page.

652
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 5: One of the things really interesting things going on there.

653
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 2: One of the things I haven't I have noticed is

654
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 2: it were a couple of weeks ago I had some

655
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Speaker 2: loons yet on the lake, and I think they don't

656
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 2: seem to be they seem to be gone. But those

657
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 2: you said would be the last ones would be the

658
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 2: young ones.

659
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Speaker 5: The young ones, Yeah, and it wouldn't surprise me if

660
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 5: they got a good lot of this year.

661
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 3: All of my.

662
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 5: Loons in Wright County had hatched before June first, so

663
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 5: that is really early, upwards of one to two weeks

664
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Speaker 5: earlier than what they normally would be, and so it

665
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 5: doesn't surprise me that they've gotten mature enough and started

666
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 5: to fly. For those who don't know, with the common loons,

667
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 5: the males will leave back in August and the females

668
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 5: leave in September. Meanwhile, the babies can't even fly, so

669
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Speaker 5: the babies have to teach themselves how to fly. And

670
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 5: then after they've you know, started flying, then they have

671
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 5: to migrate on their own also, and reminder, don't migrate

672
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 5: in flocks. They migrate individually. They may be going all

673
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 5: at the same place at the same time, which you know,

674
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 5: looks like they're maybe going as a flock, but they're not.

675
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 5: They're they're individuals all operating on their own time schedule.

676
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 5: So it's, uh, it's interesting to see that too, and

677
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 5: that's such a fascinating thing. Now high that do those

678
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 5: baby loons know where to go, you know. And more importantly,

679
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 5: how do they know when they've gotten there? They're they're

680
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 5: in the right place, you know. And then uh, and

681
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 5: of course I mean to add to all the remarkableness

682
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 5: of these loons is that they they spend their winters

683
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 5: on salt water. They you know, they're born on fresh

684
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 5: water and then uh, you know, move to a salt

685
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 5: water condition. There's not many bird species that can flip

686
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 5: flop back and forth between those uh different types of habitats.

687
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's.

688
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 2: I have a good My son is making faces at

689
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: me out there looking out the wind.

690
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 3: There's docks on a pond. Must know what's going on?

691
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 5: Is this the hunting the hunting camp for opening.

692
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 2: This is the family camp. It's a tradition that we've

693
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: had for there.

694
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 3: There is activity all around us, Yes, there's which means

695
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 3: that there are ducks in view and uh, pheasant camp

696
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 3: might become a water folly camp within a half hour.

697
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 4: Stand.

698
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 3: You mentioned that there's not a lot of species that

699
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 3: go from fresh water to salt water, you know, because uh,

700
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 3: but but there's a lot of bird ducks and grebes

701
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 3: and stuff. They they go to the Gulf of Mexico.

702
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 3: What makes that difficult of a transition from a bio

703
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 3: biological perspective.

704
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 5: It would be the salt water and the high intake salt.

705
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 5: So they in order to do that, in order to

706
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 5: go from fresh water to salt water, you have to

707
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 5: be able to excrete or get rid of that extra

708
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 5: salt that you would take in while in those areas.

709
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 5: And so with the loons, they they're able to excrete

710
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 5: those salts near theirneries, which is the nostrils of the bird,

711
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 5: and they excrete it the extra salt through there. So

712
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 5: that it's a really it's a it's a quite it's

713
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 5: a it's a challenge to be able to live. So

714
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 5: switch back and forth between them.

715
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 3: Loon is eating fish and then they when it moves

716
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 3: to eating fish in the salt in an ocean or

717
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 3: in the gulf, then there's a lot more salt inherently

718
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 3: in the fish, right, So that's what you're saying there.

719
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 3: Extreme What about fish ducks, ducks that you know go

720
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 3: to the ocean, are they able to excrete the salt

721
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 3: as well or are they eating different things and stand in

722
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 3: fresh water?

723
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 5: No, they're excreting the salt also, and there's not a

724
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 5: whole lot of those. We've got like the eiders who

725
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 5: generally are you know, spend most of their time on

726
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 5: salt water and then only come to fresh water for

727
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 5: nesting and things like that.

728
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 3: So there's not a whole lot of those. Most of

729
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 3: our docs are.

730
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 5: Going to be going down to you know, the coastal

731
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 5: areas Alabama, Arkansas or whatever, and they'll spend the water on,

732
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 5: spend the winter's on fresh water, not gotcha.

733
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 3: So blue bills and scop and golden eyes, they'll they

734
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 3: won't go into the ocean. They'll stand fresh water. Yeah,

735
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 3: they'll stay near it, but not not go into it.

736
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: What about the brackish water stand is that specific to

737
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: salt water? Is it mix both of them?

738
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's another highly that's another highly adaptable, uh,

739
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 5: the spot that needs to have some very specific adaptations

740
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,439
Speaker 5: going on with it. So the brackish water is where

741
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 5: fresh water and saltwater meet and it's a it's a

742
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 5: highly productive area with a lot of animal life to it.

743
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 5: But it is one of those that again you have

744
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 5: to be kind of specialized for that. The waiting birds,

745
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 5: herons and egrets and things like that, don't. They're not.

746
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 5: It's not as hard for them because they're not submerged

747
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 5: in it all the time, unlike the loons and greebs

748
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 5: and things like that. So brackish water is a whole different,

749
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 5: whole different thing. Too interesting.

750
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: I guess I didn't realize that it is.

751
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, hey, can I make a Can I make just

752
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 5: but yeah? Before we run off here, can I make

753
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 5: a thing?

754
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 2: Aric?

755
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,959
Speaker 5: If anybody's today I'm going to be at I'm giving

756
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 5: a talk today at the Cresmeadows.

757
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 3: Wildlife.

758
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 5: It's a state refuge, sorry, the Wildlife in Grantsburg, Wisconsin.

759
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 5: I'll be there today's at twelve thirty giving a talk

760
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 5: about why you are not like a bird. It's a

761
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 5: fun kind of informative look as to why why people

762
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 5: are not like birds, because you know, you know how

763
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 5: it is people we're always looking at you know, looking

764
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 5: out the window or looking out at birds that we're

765
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 5: trying to figure out their behaviors, and then we base

766
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 5: all those guesses that we do based on our own

767
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 5: human mammalian existence, and you're almost always wrong. So I

768
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 5: it's a fun kind of talk about why you are

769
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 5: not like a bird. So it's kind of a humans.

770
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 3: To birds kind of.

771
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 5: Well, so it's a it's a fun it's a fun

772
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 5: talking anybody's interested to for We talk at twelve thirty

773
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 5: at X Meadow's state wildlife or state. Uh, it's a

774
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 5: nationals a state refuge.

775
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a stage.

776
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 5: It's not it's a state refuge, state refuge. It's not

777
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 5: a wildlife management area. It's a state refuge.

778
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 3: Well, because there are areas you can hunt on around. Yes, yeah, okay,

779
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 3: I got you.

780
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right. So it's Meadows Wildlife Area, no fee,

781
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 5: no field. It's official. Yeah, the official name is Cracksmadows

782
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 5: State Wildlife Area is what it has online, and it's

783
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 5: a free They're having their Wildlife festival today so people

784
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 5: can stop by. I'll be talking. There's talks all morning

785
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 5: and things. I'll be giving a talk at twelve thirty.

786
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 3: And one of the best places to catch a glimpse

787
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 3: of a sharp tailed grouse east of the Mississippi.

788
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 5: Yes, this is, yeah, one of the better places for anything.

789
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 5: It is truly one of the most remarkable wildlife areas

790
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 5: in the Upper Midwest. It's in absolutely treble. They do

791
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 5: have a small wolf pack there. They do have bears.

792
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 5: They've got just about anything you can possibly imagine, is there.

793
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 5: It's a really wonderful place.

794
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 2: Well, stand, we have to take a pause. Can you

795
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 2: stay with us for another segment? Please look, yes, sir, wonderful,

796
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 2: well wonderful. We will tell you yet again about the

797
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 2: Craig Meadows activities that include Stan Tequila on our return

798
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 2: before we let him go too. So hold on, get

799
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 2: yourself some coffee, and we're going to take a pause

800
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 2: and we will be right back. Donuts are here too,

801
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 2: We'll be right back. We're back four minutes after the

802
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 2: hour of seven o'clock. Bob Saint Pierre, he's on the

803
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 2: other side of the table. I am Billy Hildebrand and

804
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: this is the twenty twenty five Pheasant opener for the

805
00:48:53,160 --> 00:49:00,959
Speaker 2: state of Minnesota. And we are we have four six

806
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 2: dogs here.

807
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,439
Speaker 3: How many dogs? We have five people? You have one dog,

808
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 3: I have two three, So we got Golden four and

809
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 3: then two more Britney six dogs.

810
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 2: And we are going to hit the field at nine o'clock.

811
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 2: And our guest right now is mister Stan Takila, who

812
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 2: will be over at Cracks Minnows Wildlife Refuge in Wisconsin

813
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 2: at twelve thirty today giving a free talk on humans

814
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 2: and birds. And they're not the same as much as

815
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 2: people those guys that tried to fly off the roofs

816
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 2: years ago in Wilmer. It didn't work, and they're not

817
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 2: the same.

818
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 3: We keep telling him that Grandsbury's a very easy drive

819
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 3: from the Twin Cities, about forty five minutes an hour.

820
00:49:55,440 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, so anyway, Stan, what what have you been up to? Also, I,

821
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 2: like I said, I when we first started talking about

822
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 2: the ruts of the guys were giving me grief on

823
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 2: but I thought that was super interesting. And uh, is

824
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 2: there anything that you're chasing now?

825
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 5: Well, I was gonna later this week, coming up the

826
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 5: week coming up head to South Dakota for the Prong

827
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 5: Horn Rut. But I'm we'll see. I'm I still may go.

828
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 5: I've run into a couple of issues. I'm in the

829
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:38,720
Speaker 5: process of getting up and running the my new flying

830
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 5: squirrel live cam so that people can sit at home

831
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 5: and watch their watch my flying squirrels.

832
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 3: So that should be fair.

833
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 5: Yes, I know it's such such issues.

834
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 2: And then.

835
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 5: Also yeah, let me be let me also mention that

836
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 5: I have a new email newsletter so people can go

837
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 5: to nature Smart dot com and scroll down at the

838
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 5: bottom and sign up for a uh of Every two

839
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 5: weeks you'll get a notification from me. You'll get a

840
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 5: uh uh basically a story a blog, and then there'll

841
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 5: be information about the photo tours I'll be doing and

842
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 5: you know, different things like that will be in the

843
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 5: in that uh newsletter that I'll send out, So people

844
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 5: just go to nature smart dot com and you'll see it.

845
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 3: Also, that's where the live feeds are at. There's there

846
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 3: there there.

847
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 5: I've got one setup for the flying squirrel and have

848
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 5: one setup for this for my great horn owl for

849
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 5: this winter. And so right now, the technical uh, I

850
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 5: don't know what to call it.

851
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 2: Uh.

852
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 5: The level of technical technical difficulty is like a of

853
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 5: a one to ten scale, it's about a twelve. So

854
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 5: I'm we're we're one step away from getting it all

855
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 5: up and running. But for people who've never seen flying squirrels,

856
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 5: it will be fun. I'll have them, I'll you know,

857
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 5: because I feed them in the wintertime, as you know,

858
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 5: and I'm hoping to be able to share that because

859
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 5: they're so adorable. There's so much fun to watch.

860
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 2: They really are, I mean, they're incredible and people stand

861
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 2: I still maintain that most a majority, I would guess

862
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 2: a huge majority of people have no idea that they're

863
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 2: living amongst flying squirrels.

864
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 3: Right.

865
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 5: It's funny. I mentioned that on another radio show that

866
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 5: I do on a Fargo Moorhead and they were like, oh,

867
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 5: we don't have any flying squirrels here, And of course

868
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 5: I got all sorts of people emailing into the station

869
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 5: and texting in the station and saying, yeah, we do,

870
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 5: you know, because they are. They're They're all over the

871
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 5: place there. Some people might argue that there's even there's

872
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 5: more flying squirreld than there are even gray squirrels, which

873
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 5: is absolutely amazing. By the way, I've been trying to

874
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 5: talk my publisher and to let me do a book

875
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 5: on squirrels, and they the eye rolling when I bring

876
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 5: it up every time is quite remarkable.

877
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 3: Not a huge audience for squirrel but.

878
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 5: I guess I'm fascinated by them. Yeah, there should be.

879
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 3: They're awesome, They're pretty turned cool, but I don't so

880
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 3: any rate.

881
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 5: I think they're fantastic.

882
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 2: Yeah I do too. I then the cyclical nature of

883
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 2: squirrels is gray squirrels in particular. That's what I've got

884
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 2: out here. And I noticed just south of me, down

885
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 2: the road, maybe a mile or less, I saw a

886
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 2: couple of black squirrels in somebody's yard. And they evidently

887
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 2: they don't they don't travel down this far, because I

888
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,479
Speaker 2: have no I had won one this year and never

889
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 2: saw him again. Either he was met his waterloo or not,

890
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 2: I don't know.

891
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 5: It's it's interesting those those black squirrels are still an

892
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 5: Eastern gray squirrel, and Bob, you're familiar with these because

893
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,439
Speaker 5: they're very common in the up of Michigan. Matter of fact,

894
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 5: they're the dominant ones there in the Up. And there's

895
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 5: different pockets of these melanistic Eastern gray squirrels all over

896
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 5: the country, and I find that absolutely fascinating. I was

897
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 5: at my visiting my daughter here a couple of weeks

898
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 5: ago and saw that they had one in their yard,

899
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 5: and I thought, wow, they're just really fun to see

900
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 5: all over the place. And then I saw from a

901
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 5: friend of mine posted a squirrel in South Carolina that's

902
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 5: an Eastern gray squirrel and it's pure white with a

903
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 5: black patch on its head. And it is not albino

904
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 5: because it's got dark black eyes. You know, in normal

905
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 5: colored paws and things like that, and it was just

906
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 5: sparked me again. I was like, Oh my gosh, here

907
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 5: we go. This is another species, another kind of variation

908
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 5: of the eastern gray squirrel that I was not familiar with,

909
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 5: but pure white with a black spot on its head.

910
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 5: And I thought, this is, this is why I should

911
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 5: be doing a book on squirrels, because I'd love to

912
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 5: be traveling all over the country photographing these different school

913
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 5: worlds everywhere. Would be pretty duarnk cool.

914
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 3: My neighborhood, I would say, So in the White Bear

915
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 3: Lake area, we have fifty percent black dray squirrels there

916
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,879
Speaker 3: you go. Yeah, And it's my assumption has always been

917
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 3: that it just has become because their their home range

918
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 3: is not a very large footprint. So there's the genetics

919
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:29,959
Speaker 3: of you know, one black squirrel gene starts to get

920
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 3: more and more prevalent, so it spreads out through the

921
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 3: population of a localized area. That pretty accurate.

922
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 5: Yes, Yeah, that's exactly it.

923
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 3: And it's a.

924
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 5: It's a recessive gene that's found in the areas and

925
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 5: then so when it becomes the dominant gene in that area,

926
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 5: that's what you get. And so you get these pockets

927
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,240
Speaker 5: all over place, and there's there's towns like in Missouri

928
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,760
Speaker 5: that claim to be, you know, the black squirrel capital

929
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 5: of the world and things like that, but they're found

930
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:01,280
Speaker 5: all over the place. This is not something that's highly unusual.

931
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 5: It's just one of those kind of cool, cool things

932
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 5: that happened.

933
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 3: So switching the conversation real quickly from from squirrels to

934
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 3: hawks during the break. Yeah, talking about hawk ridge and

935
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 3: when is the peak? If somebody wanted to, you know,

936
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 3: make a trip up to Duluth and see the hawk migration.

937
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,240
Speaker 3: Has the peak passed already?

938
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 5: Well, depends on what species you're looking for. The bird

939
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 5: with the most numbers, So the most volume of birds

940
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 5: coming through would be the Broadway hawks and they came

941
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:43,439
Speaker 5: through mid September, so two three weeks ago. And those

942
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 5: are the ones where you can get twenty thirty thousand

943
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 5: birds at a time coming through. Let me remind you

944
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 5: though that And by the way, I think at least

945
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 5: last time I checked it, I could be wrong. The

946
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 5: record in one day that they've had up there was

947
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 5: over one hundred time in one day coming through. But

948
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 5: the yeah, there's a lot of birds coming through there.

949
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 5: The migration time is going it's getting pushed further and

950
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 5: further back as the climate changes. We're seeing this adaptation,

951
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 5: this change of the birds and their behaviors to match

952
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 5: up with this, and I find that absolutely remarkable because

953
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 5: the biggest concern with the climate change is being able

954
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 5: to adapt to it quick enough to be able to

955
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 5: survive those changes. And as far as some of the

956
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 5: bird species go, it looks like they're doing fairly well

957
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 5: because the birds are adapting pretty quickly in just a

958
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 5: twenty five year period. They're they're already adjusting their migration

959
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 5: times to go, and I find that absolutely fascinating. But

960
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 5: again it goes back to that the dynamics of nature,

961
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 5: and in order to survive you have to be able

962
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 5: to have to change and adapt. The species who can't

963
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 5: are left behind and the species that can are the

964
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 5: ones who flourish and move forward. And so we are

965
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 5: seeing that. So having said that, in October, we are

966
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 5: seeing the larger hawks, so more red tails are coming through,

967
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 5: so there's plenty of time to still get the hawk ridge,

968
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 5: still see these types of things, it's just you're going

969
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,959
Speaker 5: to see a different variety of them, the larger ones.

970
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 5: And then this goes through October into November where you're

971
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 5: going to see like the eagles migrating through later in

972
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 5: the year. So starting out with the smaller hawks moving

973
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 5: all the way up through the bigger ones September, October,

974
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 5: and then into November.

975
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 2: Stand with a large number of hawks that you mentioned,

976
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 2: like one hundred thousand at one time, perhaps the largest number. Yeah,

977
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 2: when they come through an area like that and they

978
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 2: have to eat, are they putting a dent on their

979
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 2: favorite food source as they travel through.

980
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 5: That's an interesting thing is because these hawks are daytime migrators.

981
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 5: Now we just finished talking about the songbirds, the smaller

982
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 5: birds that migrate at night. These larger birds like hawks, eagles, cranes,

983
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 5: those you know, pelicans, those are daytime migrators. And so

984
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 5: with the hawks, when they're migrating, they'll spend the first

985
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 5: two hours of the day early, you know, right when

986
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 5: the sun's coming up to the maybe you know, to

987
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 5: about two hours one hour or two hours after sunrise

988
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 5: hunting and they're as they're hunting, then if they find something,

989
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 5: then they'll stay, eat and then migrate. If they don't,

990
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 5: they just keep migrating and keep moving through and they're

991
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 5: gonna be operating on reserves, which is another whole topic

992
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 5: to talk about too, because these birds cannot, like a bear,

993
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 5: put on a bunch of weight and you know, for

994
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 5: the migration, because they have problems flying, you know, see ratio.

995
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 5: You know, having too much weight when you're flying is

996
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 5: a bad thing, and so they can't like bulk up

997
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 5: before they go. They can, they definitely put on a

998
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 5: little extra weight, but it's a it's a real balance

999
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 5: there because they get too heavy than the amount of

1000
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 5: energy that they need to expend to to fly like that,

1001
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 5: it is not worth it. So these things are, you know,

1002
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 5: again very dynamic and are changing all the time.

1003
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 3: The hawk ridge is it that the hawks don't want

1004
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 3: to fly over Lake Superiors? So that pinch point at

1005
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 3: the head of the lake is why so many of

1006
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 3: them cross that area? Or is there a different reason?

1007
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, they're coming. These birds are coming down from

1008
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 5: out of Canada and northern Minnesota, and as they're heading

1009
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 5: relatively south and sometimes they're heading southeast, they run into

1010
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 5: Lake Superior. These birds rely on thermals. Thermals are rising

1011
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 5: columns of warm air and they ride on top of

1012
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 5: these thermals as they go up. So the sun heats

1013
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 5: up the land. The land gives off short shortwave energy

1014
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 5: that warms the air. The air then warm air rises,

1015
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 5: so it goes up. Cold air sinks and as it

1016
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 5: rises up, the birds get on top of these thermals

1017
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 5: and ride them like a free elevator ride. And then

1018
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 5: so over the cold water of Lake Superior. There are

1019
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 5: no thermals. So it's not that they don't want to

1020
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 5: fly over a lake. They don't really care, it's just

1021
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 5: where are the thermals at The thermals are on the land,

1022
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 5: and so they're following that. So there's what over one

1023
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 5: hundred to two hundred miles the shoreline from Duluth up

1024
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 5: to Canada, and so you got this funneling effect of

1025
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 5: all these birds bumping up against Lakespirit and then taking

1026
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 5: a right hand turn and following the shoreline down, which

1027
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 5: then funnels them all down to Duluth and Deluz got

1028
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 5: a high ridge just behind the city in which they

1029
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 5: fly over, and that's where the hawk ridge is at.

1030
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 5: Hence the name ridge because this higher ridge, and then

1031
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 5: it kind of gives you a natural perch to sit

1032
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 5: and watch these birds as they fly over. Now they're

1033
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 5: not flying over at I they're flying higher, So especially

1034
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 5: during the middle of the day, if you get their

1035
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 5: midday and you're seeing the birds flying, you're going to

1036
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 5: see birds that are straight up and quite high, maybe

1037
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 5: you know, five hundred feet above where you're at as

1038
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 5: they fly over this area. But they're you know, you

1039
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 5: can see them, and they count them there too. And

1040
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 5: this has been going on for decades and decades. It's

1041
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 5: a great source of information data on the number of

1042
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 5: migrating birds.

1043
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 2: Stand before we let you go, give us a specifics

1044
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 2: once again about where you will be today speaking.

1045
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, a couple of things. I'll be at

1046
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 5: Cracksmadows and Graansburg, Wisconsin today twelve thirty giving a talk

1047
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 5: about why you are not like a bird. And also

1048
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 5: people can now go to the nature smart dot com

1049
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 5: sign up for my newsletter and get information about my

1050
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 5: photo tours and things like that. And then hopefully in

1051
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 5: the next week or two we'll be up and running

1052
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 5: with our flying Squirrel cam, which is already on the website.

1053
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 5: But we just have to make that final last link.

1054
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 3: So I know we get to go. Next time we

1055
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 3: have you on, you're gonna have to help us navigate

1056
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 3: a proposal that was lobbed our way yesterday, and that

1057
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 3: proposal was for Billy and I to go into a

1058
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 3: bear's den during hibernation. And I'm I'm inclined to take

1059
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 3: uh say yes to this proposal. Billy is inclined to

1060
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 3: say no.

1061
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 5: Who's got a bear den that you can go into?

1062
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 4: Uh?

1063
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 3: Well that will just keys that for next time. We

1064
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 3: were looking for your advice and whether or not I

1065
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 3: want you or a bad idea.

1066
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 5: Well, having having done it several times, I want in.

1067
01:03:55,840 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 3: My place. Okay, Well I like the idea. We increase

1068
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 3: the number of people, we only have to outrun one

1069
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 3: of them.

1070
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 2: How the heck? Hello, Hello, I'm.

1071
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 5: In I've actually done a live radio show from inside

1072
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 5: of a bear's den. Come on, I have, I actually

1073
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 5: have and on my cell phone and it is. Yeah,

1074
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 5: it's it's incredible, it really is. I've done it two

1075
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 5: or three times, and I don't recommend it. Don't don't

1076
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 5: get me wrong, I don't recommend it at all. But

1077
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 5: let me know.

1078
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I have a rope on my foot, somebody

1079
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 2: is in charge of pulling.

1080
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 5: If you get to you some day, yeah, someday, I'll

1081
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 5: tell you a story about how when I was in

1082
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 5: a beard and I had my family with me, and

1083
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 5: when the bear kind of made an aggressive mood towards me,

1084
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 5: I thought my family would pull me out. But what

1085
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 5: happened to me is I tell rescued myself. And when

1086
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 5: I got out and lifted my head, all I saw

1087
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 5: was three rear ends running away. So they left me

1088
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 5: and they were running to save their lives.

1089
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 2: Well, you know, some people say all I got to

1090
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 2: beat is one to get away, But evidently they got

1091
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 2: a head start on you.

1092
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 5: Oh boy did they.

1093
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 2: Oh my Stan will talk in a couple of weeks.

1094
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 2: My friend and I thank you and have a wonderful

1095
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 2: weekend and a great talk over at Crex Meadows.

1096
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 5: All right, guys, talk to you next time.

1097
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 2: Thanks stand Tekela find him at naturesmart dot com, but

1098
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 2: today at twelve thirty fine him at Crex Meadows Wildlife

1099
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 2: Refuge in Gransburg, Wisconsin. We'll take a pause and be

1100
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 2: back with more right after this.

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01:05:48,320 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 4: Scers, we are back.

1102
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 2: We'll be with you until the eight o'clock hour. Where

1103
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 2: in the zone follows us and be sure that you

1104
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 2: keep it right here because Sinecon and Tucker are a

1105
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 2: great pair to listen to because they are both extremely

1106
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 2: knowledgeable and fun. And then once in a while, our

1107
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 2: producer jumps on board too because he is kind of

1108
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 2: the resident hockey expert and he will offer some very

1109
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 2: very timely, timely reports on what's going on in the

1110
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 2: hockey world also the football world. But you know that's

1111
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 2: kind of green bayish.

1112
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't like that.

1113
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. So he is there anyway, but keep

1114
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 2: it right here all day long. You'll enjoy it, and

1115
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 2: yours truly, Bob and I will be along with Eric

1116
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 2: Chad and Kurt Colin Colton, we will be out chasing

1117
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 2: the wiley rooster. And there was a what was it

1118
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 2: when did Simonette come out with us? Oh? Boy? Seven

1119
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 2: years ago?

1120
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1121
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 3: I was going to say twenty nineteen, but it might

1122
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 3: have been twenty seventeen something in that window.

1123
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 2: Dave Simonette, the lead singer for trample By Turtles, came

1124
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:30,959
Speaker 2: out with his initial time hunting pheasants and we had

1125
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 2: a phenomenal shoot and encouraged Dave, who is a really

1126
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 2: really good guy. If you know him, you will agree

1127
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 2: with me. If you don't know him, I hope you

1128
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 2: get a chance to meet him because he is a very,

1129
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 2: very class individual. But he was on his initial hunt.

1130
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 2: And as we finished the limit and Eric's hollered over loudly,

1131
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 2: we are done, nobody shoot, and we were. We had

1132
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 2: a limit and Dave shot his first bird that particular

1133
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 2: day and it was super fun. And that's the first

1134
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 2: time and the only time I think that we have

1135
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 2: taken a limit out of there. Really, I think, so, okay,

1136
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 2: we've gotten some most usually, but yeah, that was a

1137
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 2: limit and it was classic. It was really really fun.

1138
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1139
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:28,599
Speaker 3: Now Dave has two bird dogs in the schedules, a

1140
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 3: touring around bird hunting season, which I can empathize the identify.

1141
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 2: I had to look twice ladies and gentlemen when he

1142
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 2: drove in because I wasn't sure who the guy was.

1143
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 2: Snap was growling her, Bree was growling at him. Snap

1144
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 2: would groovy growling too if she was still here, but

1145
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 2: she is not. But anyway, Yes, so what.

1146
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 3: Do you do You have a hope for the day ahead.

1147
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 2: I hope somebody gets a somebody gets some good shots.

1148
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 2: I really do.

1149
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:04,640
Speaker 3: That's pretty minimal expectation.

1150
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:09,479
Speaker 2: There's no sense and you know, I really don't for

1151
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 2: me personally, and I've told a number of people, including

1152
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 2: people on the air here, I'm just not that bad

1153
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:20,640
Speaker 2: at them anymore. If we have what I do, what

1154
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 2: I really want, selfishly for me is to get breathe

1155
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 2: on some birds. And she has not been on. And

1156
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 2: it's all my fault because I've always if you've got

1157
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 2: multiple dogs, and you've got one that is kind of

1158
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 2: your pride and joy.

1159
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 3: Yet you had the dog of a lifetime I do.

1160
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 2: For how old is Snap?

1161
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 3: Fourteen?

1162
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 2: Fourteen? So?

1163
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 3: And when she got ill right at the beginning a

1164
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:55,639
Speaker 3: year ago now, yep, opening day, it kind of put

1165
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 3: a handcuffs on your hunting season.

1166
01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 2: And I didn't hunt after that.

1167
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:02,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, and now Brie is what three?

1168
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, three or four? I think she might be. I

1169
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 2: don't know, three or four.

1170
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 3: So now is her prime time?

1171
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all about her now she has been promoted

1172
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 2: to the A team.

1173
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 3: I've got that situation too. Yeah, although mine's a little

1174
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 3: bit older. Six year old Gitchee is on the A

1175
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 3: team now and Winter is coming up the ranks. But yeah,

1176
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 3: I'm just so it sounds weird, but like there's no

1177
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 3: no video cameras, no work obligations. I Am just going

1178
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 3: hunting with my buddies and my dogs today. And I

1179
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 3: cannot tell.

1180
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 2: Ya I am a video camera because.

1181
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 3: There is no video camera today.

1182
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:48,640
Speaker 2: I am because I will replay step four step for

1183
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 2: you in a week.

1184
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 3: I'm walking the other direction, then, Captain, because I I

1185
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 3: am like you. Yeah, i'd love to, you know, have

1186
01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 3: some action today, but just to go a walk in

1187
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 3: the field with my friends and my dogs. And a

1188
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 3: forecasts a little bit warm, but the forecast has come

1189
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:14,559
Speaker 3: down temperature wise since earlier in the week. Ah, it's

1190
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 3: gonna be fabulous. I'm just really excited.

1191
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 2: Well the other thing too, it's gonna be a great

1192
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:22,640
Speaker 2: time to fish if you've still got your boat.

1193
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 3: My boat's been winterized. It's the fourth of July.

1194
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 2: I needn't winterized, but it's in the garage. And I

1195
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,679
Speaker 2: see these boats going by here heading north on the lake,

1196
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 2: and I know the fisher.

1197
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 3: It's driving you a little crazy, isn't it.

1198
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 2: It really is. I enjoy that tremendously. I really like it.

1199
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 2: And but my docks and lifts are coming out of

1200
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 2: the water today. There's a business, a local business west

1201
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 2: Kemper Docks. The guys come out. We were just talking

1202
01:11:55,520 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 2: about it on a break. They usually arrive sometime during

1203
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 2: the day, and my grandson Jack was here. They all

1204
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 2: they were all wearing at that time black wetsuits, so

1205
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 2: they were from the top of their head until the feet,

1206
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 2: they were all black. Jack looked at him when they

1207
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 2: got here and they got out of the truck, and

1208
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 2: he looked at his mom, and he looked at at

1209
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 2: Debbie and said, what's going on?

1210
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 3: Looked like Navy seals.

1211
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.

1212
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 3: But then I remember the days when you didn't hire

1213
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 3: a service and midday pheasant hunting we all put waiters

1214
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 3: on it and lifted the docks out. Thanks for hiring

1215
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 3: a service, Captain.

1216
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 2: It was mostly on my part from self or self preservation,

1217
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 2: because it just I it's getting kind of beyond my ability.

1218
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 3: There's a lot, I'm certain there are a lot of

1219
01:12:56,360 --> 01:13:00,919
Speaker 3: pheasant hunting groups that will be taking docs out midday

1220
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 3: to day.

1221
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:06,679
Speaker 2: And the other thing is to midday. Bob was here

1222
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 2: and he was on ONYX plotting out some strategy today.

1223
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 2: One of them was he was marking where he was

1224
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 2: going to take his truck nap later today. I will

1225
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:18,639
Speaker 2: have a truck nap today. You don't want to burn

1226
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 2: yourself out before the golden how I understand that.

1227
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 3: You know, I'm looking towards a very relaxed, casual day,

1228
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:31,839
Speaker 3: nice little walk in the morning, have a delicious sandwich,

1229
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 3: hopefully I do not grab the one with any special

1230
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 3: secret ingredients in it. After that, I look forward to

1231
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 3: putting the recliner on in my tahoe and shut my

1232
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:47,839
Speaker 3: eyes for a little bit and taking a nice golden

1233
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 3: nowur walk with my dogs. And maybe at the end

1234
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 3: of the day, I've got to clean a couple of birds.

1235
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 2: You know. We talk about this, folks, We talk about

1236
01:13:56,920 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 2: this every year, and after the first the first walk

1237
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 2: is usually ending up around from nine until probably twelve

1238
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 2: thirty quarter to one. By that time, this guy has gassed.

1239
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:15,759
Speaker 2: It's the golden hour comes and it goes, and I'm

1240
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 2: if I am still able, I'll go for a short walk.

1241
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 2: But there's some of the posting.

1242
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 3: Would you so you think he got only one walk

1243
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 3: in you today?

1244
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:31,639
Speaker 2: Maybe? Yeah, maybe they don't. I could start posting early. Yeah,

1245
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 2: that's I got that from my brother. Early. My brother

1246
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 2: used to post he'd find himself a good spot with

1247
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 2: a gravel road between it on to usually public land

1248
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 2: with grasses on it, and when the birds had come

1249
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:50,640
Speaker 2: out of the corner and run in, he would have

1250
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 2: a place so that he could post and go and

1251
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 2: hopefully find him. To my chagrin, I've tried that they

1252
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 2: don't stop. Yeah, either that or they fly out of

1253
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 2: the corner and land in the middle of things.

1254
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 3: But you've been you've been out doing some scouting.

1255
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 2: I have. I've been doing some walking, okay, but in

1256
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 2: the in the guise of going to different places and

1257
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 2: walking different types of wildlife areas and saw public land

1258
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 2: that I and probably returning to old memories. I found

1259
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 2: some some things that I would return to, but I

1260
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 2: found some things I ain't going back to.

1261
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:38,639
Speaker 3: Is there a consistent type of cover that you're finding

1262
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 3: birds in, Well.

1263
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 2: It's kind of hard to tell you. Yeah, there's there's

1264
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 2: an awful lot of big blue stem that this year.

1265
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 2: It's big. Yeah. I gat.

1266
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:51,640
Speaker 3: I let my dogs out just to air out on

1267
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 3: my way up here in the grass considerably taller than

1268
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:57,640
Speaker 3: it was a year ago. Because we had a just

1269
01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 3: tremendous growing.

1270
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean unbelievable. I had Chad's dog Rex and

1271
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:09,799
Speaker 2: bri out, and we had I had collars on them

1272
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 2: and sport dog collars, the upland game collars on them,

1273
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 2: and I could buzz them or beep them to find

1274
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 2: out where they were. But the other thing they're getting

1275
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 2: that bluestem. I couldn't find them because they're fairly They're

1276
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 2: fairly tiny, especially bri. But when birds started getting up,

1277
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 2: I could tell where they were, but they could point

1278
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:38,679
Speaker 2: a long time. But because I'm not going to find them.

1279
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 3: We got to get you into the GPS collar world.

1280
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 2: I need to do that, I think, and I got

1281
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 2: to do that, but I don't have now. It's so

1282
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 2: the other place I found birds is no different than

1283
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 2: where we found them before. I found some birds in

1284
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:07,719
Speaker 2: uh short brushy junk.

1285
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 3: There's a descriptive short brushy junk is where we're gonna

1286
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 3: hunt to day.

1287
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 2: But there's thistles and there's all kinds of different things

1288
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 2: in it. And one year we found them in the

1289
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 2: same type of area. But I've been back to that

1290
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 2: particular place because now it's a big blue stem and

1291
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 2: it's been really high. But some of the blue stem

1292
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:34,679
Speaker 2: that I found is not and I think it needs

1293
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 2: some care. It needs to be burned or cut or something,

1294
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 2: because it's real sparse. There's still some blue stem in it,

1295
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 2: but it's sparse. But the nettles and the short grass

1296
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 2: a lot of young birds and that's what we found

1297
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 2: years ago in them too. The blue stem, the really

1298
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 2: tall blue stem. It's good stuff.

1299
01:17:59,120 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 5: It's not real.

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Speaker 2: It's thick, but it's not like trying to wade through

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01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:08,679
Speaker 2: the heart attack grass that I call the canary grass.

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01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 2: It just well, it just eventually you got to push

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01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 2: your legs to I hate that. Yeah, but there are

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01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 2: birds sometimes in there, but my goodness, gracious, it just

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01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 2: destroys your body.

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01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:27,559
Speaker 3: Are you Did you have a hove frost here Tuesday night?

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01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:28,639
Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 3: So, assuming the bugs got knocked back, it's.

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Speaker 2: Not they aren't bad. They aren't bad at least when

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Speaker 2: I was out there.

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Speaker 3: And I'm wondering if that killed off the grasshoppers out

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01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 3: ice traction, I would guess, But.

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01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 2: I think, like I had, I had frost not here,

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01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 2: but right across the road. My neighbor had frost and

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01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 2: open areas. But some places it didn't get as cold

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Speaker 2: as other places too.

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Speaker 3: We had we had pretty considerable frosts in the cities.

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Speaker 3: On I think it was Tuesday night, I had to

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Speaker 3: cover plants.

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Speaker 2: We do have to take a pause, our final pause

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01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 2: of the morning, so let's go ahead and do that,

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01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 2: and when we come back, we'll talk a little strategy

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01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 2: and a couple of questions that I have written down

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01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 2: to that we may have some new hunters out there,

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01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 2: just as we had encouraged people to try turkey hunting

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01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 2: and our listeners tried it and found they loved it

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01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 2: and some even had success. So if we've got new

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01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 2: pheasant hunters, when we come back, we'll talk about a

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01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 2: new pheasant hunter and some strategy that you can use

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01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 2: to add some success to what you do and predict about,

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01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:45,680
Speaker 2: predict about what you will be doing if you like it,

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01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 2: and guarantee you will. We were running out of time too,

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01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 2: because we get to a spot ourselves. Yes we do,

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01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 2: all right, We will take that pause and be right

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01:19:56,320 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 2: back with one more segment of Fan Outdoors. For this

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Speaker 2: final segment, as you can tell by the music, come

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Speaker 2: bringing us back in. And that is compliments of our

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01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 2: executive producer, Brett Blakemore, and we thank him for all

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01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 2: that he does every single week for us, because it

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01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 2: wouldn't be the same, not at all. What was we

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01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 2: going to do with us last segment.

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Speaker 3: Your mind is focus on getting your dog ready and

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01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:48,760
Speaker 3: getting out there. But you had some questions, you said, yeah,

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01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 3: well for a new hunter.

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01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 2: One of the things, one of the things I talked

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01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 2: a little bit before we went to break is we

1348
01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 2: encouraged people to try turkey hunting because it was so

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01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 2: much fun, and we talked for a number of weeks

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01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 2: about it.

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01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 3: You're telled the spring spring turkey.

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01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 2: Spring turkey season. Yeah, and there's a fall turkey season too,

1353
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 2: but it's not the same because there's other options open

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01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:12,640
Speaker 2: to you.

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01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 3: Also, well, they're just not as responsive to calling, which

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01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 3: kind of makes turkey hunting unique.

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01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. But pheasant hunting is something that can

1358
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 2: get into.

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01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:26,640
Speaker 4: Your blood.

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01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 2: And when you're enjoying it. And we talked a little

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01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 2: bit about the walking aspect. There's a lot of walking,

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01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 2: and for me, it's difficult and it's unique. It is hard,

1363
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 2: but it's not like walking down a sidewalk at by

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01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 2: anti stretch of the imagination. And very honestly, I love

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01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 2: the pheasant hunt. I hate to just go walking. It's

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01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 2: so boring to me, honest to god, Really, you don't

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01:21:58,960 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 2: go for walks?

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01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:01,479
Speaker 3: No, No, I don't.

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01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:07,600
Speaker 2: And I'll go for walks out in the field. I

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01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:09,760
Speaker 2: love doing that. I just take the dog and we

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01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:13,680
Speaker 2: just go wandering around. I'll walk down the road in

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01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:19,600
Speaker 2: the woods and a trail. I really enjoy doing that.

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01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 2: But in the Metro area, walking down a sidewalk and

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01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 2: looking at this house, this house, this dog comes running out.

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01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:30,639
Speaker 2: I don't enjoy that at all. Or having somebody walk

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01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 2: by and have their dog crap in my yard. No,

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01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 2: not for me. But pheasant hunting is a different dynamic,

1378
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:41,679
Speaker 2: and it is so much fun. You need a couple

1379
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 2: of things. I mentioned it was the waterfowling is equipment intensive,

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01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 2: and I get that it is. It's super fun. In fact,

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01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:55,759
Speaker 2: when I grew up, I would rather duck hunt than anything.

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01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 2: And it's probably because it's fun right away in the dark.

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01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,600
Speaker 2: It's not so fun when you got to pick everything up.

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01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 2: Fun throwing out decoys, not so fun wrapping them up

1385
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 2: when it's really cold. But pheasant hunting, I gravitate to

1386
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:15,720
Speaker 2: that because I really enjoy the walk, and I tell

1387
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 2: myself it's a great exercise. Old man, it's a wonderful exercise.

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01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:24,720
Speaker 2: But when you get the flush of a rooster. Oh,

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01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 2: and I've I've hunted for I've hunted almost sixty years.

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01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:34,719
Speaker 2: I've hunted for more than sixty years, and I don't

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01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:39,639
Speaker 2: think there's a year I've missed. And I still when

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01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 2: a rooster flushes, or even a pheasant, but especially a rooster,

1393
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 2: it just I lose it. I tell myself, set it down,

1394
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:52,640
Speaker 2: it's not a big deal. You've done this before you

1395
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 2: But when they bust out, start cackling out. Safe safe, safe. Yeah,

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01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 2: there's something about that, and it never gets old. But

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01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:09,560
Speaker 2: if you're going to try it, go with somebody. Go

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01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 2: with a friend, join a Pheesist Forever chapter, and hook

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01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:16,200
Speaker 2: up with somebody that has done it in the past,

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01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 2: that has a dog. Without a dog, it's a little

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01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 2: like kissing your sister.

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01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:31,759
Speaker 3: I wouldn't know, but you're right. Bird hunting well, Pheasant

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01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 3: hunting is one of those things where you really do

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01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:38,559
Speaker 3: need a dog to recover the bird. They're just so tough.

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01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:42,640
Speaker 3: You know, rough grouse hunting you can succeed without a dog. Waterfalling,

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01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:46,720
Speaker 3: you can see succeed without a dog. Pheasant hunting, boy,

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01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 3: unless you're watching walking a very narrow strip like a ditch,

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01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 3: and you know, very linear cover and you just hammer

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01:24:57,479 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 3: your shots. It's extreme semly difficult to hunt without a dog,

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01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 3: and that's what makes the magic, honestly.

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01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 2: And if you're looking, if you don't have a dog

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01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:09,600
Speaker 2: and you're looking for a bird that you've dropped, and

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01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 2: even if it's just got a little life left, they're

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01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 2: almost impossible to find.

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01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 3: And that's not fair to the bird. No, you know,

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01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 3: for you to cripple a bird and not have a

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01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 3: dog to help you recover it. In that partnership between

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01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:29,360
Speaker 3: hunter and dog, it's so special.

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01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 2: It really is, and you need to try it. You

1420
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 2: don't need a lot of equipment. You need to wear

1421
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:40,640
Speaker 2: some orange, some good boots, some good walking boots that

1422
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 2: you can walk in. Don't get this cheap crap that

1423
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 2: you get and because your feet are gonna pay, and

1424
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:50,759
Speaker 2: which means you're gonna pay. But we'll talk more about

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01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 2: that as we get into it. Because today is if

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01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 2: you're just gonna start, today's not the day to start.

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01:25:57,400 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 2: It really isn't. There's gonna be a lot of hunters

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01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 2: out and there's gonna be lots of activity. But give

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01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:05,960
Speaker 2: it some thought. If you're not a hunter, give it

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01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 2: a little bit of thought and see what you think.

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01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 2: Because we will touch on this again in the upcoming

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01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 2: weeks and talk to you about it too, because it's

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01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:18,280
Speaker 2: a wonderful sport that you could do for a long

1434
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 2: long time.

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01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 3: And there's a good meal at the end too. The

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01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 3: peasants a darn good table, they really are.

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01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 2: They will. Hey, I want to say thank you to

1438
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 2: Stan Tequila for joining us this morning and talking to

1439
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 2: us about some things. Don't forget. He's at Cruxmote of

1440
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 2: Meadows at twelve thirty today in Wisconsin at Grantsburg. But

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01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 2: we got to duck out of here because I want

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01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 2: to go hunting for Bob Saint Pierre, my very good friend,

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01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:49,720
Speaker 2: for Brett Blakemore, our executive producer. I am Billy Hildebrand,

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01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:52,599
Speaker 2: Leaving you with Tata