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Speaker 2: Now with you, here's Softie and Dick. We got a

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Speaker 3: If you miss Jetfish six pm the night, tune in

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Speaker 3: for that. Kevin Harlan's going to join us at five

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Speaker 3: o'clock tonight on the radio program normally on Wednesdays, but

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Speaker 3: been a little busy the last couple of days. Wacky

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Speaker 3: at five tonight. But here he is, our friend, our

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Speaker 3: resident NFL insider, Hue Breedlove Millan. How are you, Pow,

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Speaker 3: what's going on? Good to be with you, Dave, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: good to be with you, Hugh. Let's let's talk about

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Speaker 3: what you heard from Jetfish.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 3: Man, we spent about twenty minutes talking with the coach

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Speaker 3: of the Dogs. Your your thoughts, takeaways that conversation.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think there's a fine line between media savvy

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Speaker 4: and media evasive, and I think we heard both. And

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Speaker 4: yet once Jed made the decision that he wanted to

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Speaker 4: bring back Demond, he was willing to be bring back Demond,

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Speaker 4: then I don't think he could have answered questions a

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Speaker 4: lot differently. Certainly there was a number of times where

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Speaker 4: I say evasive on my notes, but I also have

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Speaker 4: a column where I wrote smoking gun, which to my interpretation,

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Speaker 4: I think I have the same theory that I think

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Speaker 4: most have, which is that and it's deduced from an

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Speaker 4: inference to the best explanation about a set of facts.

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Speaker 4: And the theory that I have is that demon Williams

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Speaker 4: went into the portal. He had a do not contact tag,

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Speaker 4: as confirmed by Pete Thamil, who's been getting everything right,

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Speaker 4: and that indicates that he had a specific school in mind.

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Speaker 4: I believe that that school was LSU. I believe that

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Speaker 4: there was tampering. That's why Jed didn't want to discuss tampering.

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Speaker 4: But I also believe that when Washington flexed, they're legal,

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Speaker 4: not necessarily obligations, but there they're legal, uh prerogatives. I

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Speaker 4: believe that at that point when you consider when Jed

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Speaker 4: said that, Hey, when Dave you asked him, you had

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Speaker 4: to come back right. What he said was every conversation

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Speaker 4: I've had with Demon is that he's excited to be

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Speaker 4: That is not answering the question that to me is

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Speaker 4: a smoking gun, particularly when paired with the by Darren Heidner,

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Speaker 4: the new agent who said this demand arrived at the

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Speaker 4: most well informed decision possible. He decided to return to Washington,

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Speaker 4: not because he was forced to. Of course, he wasn't

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Speaker 4: forced to. He could have sat out the year in

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Speaker 4: he was forced to, not because he didn't understand his options,

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Speaker 4: but because he was fully educated on the consequences of

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Speaker 4: to return to Washington lead his team to further success.

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Speaker 4: I get it, that's what an attorney would say, but

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Speaker 4: there's no doubt in my mind that that's exactly how

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Speaker 4: it played out. And to me, there was enough disclosed

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Speaker 4: by Jed. I think that he had to answer most

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Speaker 4: of those questions that way, given what we know about

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Speaker 4: the facts, he can't.

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Speaker 4: He can't describe the facts, Hugh.

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Speaker 5: Bigger picture now that we know who the quarterback is,

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Speaker 5: I asked Jed, I want to ask you. I mean,

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Speaker 5: One of the teams they're playing tonight, they already played

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Speaker 5: and I thought it was a fairly competitive game. If

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Speaker 5: So do you agree with Jed when he says we're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a fine line.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we've talked about how the numbers have the

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Speaker 4: I think the best game I've ever seen from Demon

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Speaker 4: there'd be improvement. As a nineteen year old. The schedules

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Speaker 4: don't know that I saw improvement. I see when I

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Speaker 4: just you know, my conclusion always this is, are you

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Speaker 4: Thompson Robins damn good quarterback? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but he

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Speaker 4: lost eight games four each of his last two years,

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Speaker 4: and he was a third round draft pick, not the first.

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Speaker 3: We talk a lot of Hoskey football over the offseason here,

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Speaker 3: and I got a feeling we're gonna be talking a

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Speaker 3: lot more this offseason right because of this story. But

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Speaker 3: let's go to tonight's game, and by the way, if

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Speaker 3: there was any by the way, concern or curiosity about

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Speaker 2: In tonight's game.

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Speaker 3: Okay, right there, baby, got the Indiana T shirt on

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Speaker 3: right now.

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Speaker 2: Let's go Hoosiers. Come on, boys, let's get it done.

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Speaker 3: Indiana went to Oregon earlier this year and pretty much

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Speaker 3: just dominated the Ducks at the line of scrimmage in

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Speaker 2: Do you see the same thing happening again tonight?

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Speaker 3: No, By the way, Hugh Noah Whittington questionable for this

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Speaker 2: Though? Well, Oregon's healthier at the wide receiver position.

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Speaker 4: I think Dante Moore was shockingly non competitive in that game.

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Speaker 4: He just looked like he had no fire. He looked

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Speaker 4: quote Urban Meyer. Urban Meyer said that what the coaching

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Speaker 4: just have to keep constantly reminding yourself it's not Indiana, right.

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Speaker 4: They have those classic red and white number. You got

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Speaker 4: I believe that they have the number one overall pick

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Speaker 4: it's going to be more of the same. I'll be

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Speaker 4: surprised if Oregon comes out of this thing with a win.

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Speaker 2: I would as well.

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Speaker 5: But if they do come out with a win, did

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Speaker 5: the right team win for us last night as far

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Speaker 5: as as far as a better chance to knock out Oregon?

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Speaker 6: And was that play of the game pass interference in

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's absolutely past interference, And uh, you know, I

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Speaker 4: don't I don't understand. I really don't understand the idea. Hey,

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Speaker 4: let the players play on the last play of the game.

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Speaker 4: So you're telling me that I hate to use Lebron

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Speaker 4: he goes up and he clearly gets hit on the wrist. Uh,

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Speaker 4: you're telling me that you're just going to swallow the

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Speaker 3: We see calls like that in the NBA all the time,

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Speaker 3: but we don't see him in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: On hell, Mary's you're right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But now I would say, look if it was

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Speaker 4: went six inches forward, Okay, that's ticki tac. That that

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Speaker 4: didn't give you a material advantage. You know, a formation,

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Speaker 4: you know, illegal formason. No, there's a there's a room

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Speaker 4: for excluding ticki tac plays. But when you're talking about

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Speaker 3: Millin's well, us, Hugh, Let's let's get to what's happening

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Speaker 3: It'll be the Rams, It'll be the Panthers, it'll be

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Speaker 3: Bay Packers. I know you're not into predictions, right, You'd

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Speaker 3: never been into predictions as long as I've known you.

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Speaker 3: But this Packer game with the Bears is intriguing to

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Speaker 2: Number three seed Chicago, is that right, guys?

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Speaker 3: Bears versus a seventh seed, yet the seventh seed two seven?

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Speaker 3: The two versus a seven, yet the seven is the favorite.

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Speaker 3: Packers are given a point and a half. So obviously

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Speaker 3: Vegas thinks Green Bay is gonna win the game and

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Speaker 3: come to Seattle as the seventh seed next weekend.

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Speaker 2: How would surprise? Would you be shocked? Not surprised?

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Speaker 3: If Jordan Love and company without Michael Parsons walked into

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Speaker 4: I would think it's pretty close to a pick. And

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Speaker 4: what's the spread?

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Speaker 2: One and a half?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think that in Jordan Love, you know,

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Speaker 4: Clearly with Michael Parsons, they.

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Speaker 2: Don't have it.

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Speaker 4: I think that that Caleb Williams has really ascended. You know,

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Speaker 4: you had a chance to win a game winner earlier,

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Speaker 4: he underthrows it, he gets in intercepted. Now he gets

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Speaker 4: I would not say Green Bay is, you know, should

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Speaker 2: My hat they got they got a lot of horsepower.

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Speaker 2: Would you do me one quick favorite before you go?

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Speaker 3: Will you just just do as I ask for once

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Speaker 3: It's just tell me who the Hawks are playing next weekend? Packers, Bears, Rams, Pants, Panthers, Niners, Eagles.

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Speaker 2: Who's coming to town next Timeaturday? Rams? Rams? Got you?

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Speaker 6: I think it's the biggest roadblock in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Hey, you know what Richard Sherman said, the twenty thirteen

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Speaker 3: the whole friggin thing. A lot to get to. Hawks

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Speaker 2: Point three JR.

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Speaker 7: It's a situation where somebody is telling him to do

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Speaker 3: Us jet Fish with us about an hour ago. You

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Speaker 3: That's what we're all about, just bending over frigging backwards

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Speaker 3: Sitting down with the uw women's soccer team is sitting

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Speaker 5: No, absolutely, And I keep thinking, I know there are

437
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Speaker 5: people out there and rightfully so, that are angry and

438
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 5: think that, hey, Jedfish should have just excommunicated this kid.

439
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Speaker 5: And I mean I keep thinking how young he mentioned

440
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,159
Speaker 5: how young demand was when Jedfish first met him.

441
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Speaker 2: He was younger than my kid.

442
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Speaker 5: Now he's like fifteen years old when he so he

443
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 5: has had this is a long term, almost father son

444
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 5: type relationship he's had with this guy.

445
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Speaker 2: And why did Demon Williams go behind his back?

446
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 6: That's a excelling questions for Demon.

447
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Speaker 3: Jed admitted to us on the air that he put

448
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 3: this post out what Tuesday night?

449
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 2: He had no idea, Yes, he had no idea.

450
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 3: It's a guy who you just says a father figure

451
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 3: to Demon Williams and know since he's fourteen years old.

452
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 3: But DeMont told him nothing, nothing about this Instagram post,

453
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 3: which I gotta be honest with you.

454
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Speaker 2: Oh there's a bush league move by Demon.

455
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 3: I mean, Jed Fish has gone out of his way

456
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 3: to promote and market and pump up Demon Williams more

457
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 3: than any coach in Husky football history has ever done.

458
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 3: A backup quarterback that's correct, and this is the way

459
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Speaker 3: he gets treated.

460
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Speaker 5: I think so has ever done a starting quarterback, I

461
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Speaker 5: mean calling him.

462
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Speaker 2: The face the program? I've never heard one.

463
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Speaker 3: Did he coach ever say there's a face of the program?

464
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Speaker 3: He did that before he was a starter, right, he

465
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 3: did that two years ago.

466
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Speaker 5: But my point is, I don't even know if a

467
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Speaker 5: Husky coach has ever done that about a the starting quarterback.

468
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Speaker 2: Right.

469
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Speaker 8: But tick, you talk about how he's a nineteen year

470
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Speaker 8: old kid, I would say this, I think at the

471
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Speaker 8: point that a human being starts signing contracts worth millions

472
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 8: of dollars and the point where you become the face

473
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Speaker 8: of a multi million dollar football program, man, you better

474
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Speaker 8: mature the bleep upright, because I'm sorry then your excuses of.

475
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 2: Oh, I was just a young kid.

476
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 5: No, and I was talking about when he first met him,

477
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 5: like the depth of the relationship.

478
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Speaker 2: I totally understand your point.

479
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Speaker 8: You're talking about it right now, and there's a lot

480
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Speaker 8: of people right now saying, forgive him, he's a young kid.

481
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

482
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Speaker 8: That goes out the window. When you do all of

483
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Speaker 8: these things, you're no longer in nineteen mid old. When

484
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Speaker 8: you do all these things you're you have to mature.

485
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, how many times did we say in the

486
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 3: last couple of years. If they start paying players, then

487
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 3: players are going to start being treated like pros.

488
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Speaker 2: Yes, by the media, by the fans.

489
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Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm just kind of just just throwing this

490
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 3: out there, all right, stream of consciousness whatever. So either

491
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 3: a we can just say, okay, that now is appropriate

492
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 3: to talk about college kids like that and expect college

493
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 3: kids to act a certain way and to be mature

494
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Speaker 3: beyond their years.

495
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Speaker 2: Or we can just admit that we are giving money

496
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Speaker 2: to kids. That's it. We're just if we're going.

497
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Speaker 3: To give money, we still remember their nineteen We don't

498
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Speaker 3: expect anything more out of him.

499
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Speaker 2: It's on us.

500
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Speaker 3: And if we don't feel comfortable getting money to kids,

501
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Speaker 3: that we don't give money to kids. I mean, part

502
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Speaker 3: of the problem here, I think, is that you're asking

503
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Speaker 3: a nineteen year old kid to be an adult when

504
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 3: he's not a freaking adult. Right.

505
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Speaker 5: But I also think a nineteen year old kid, usually

506
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 5: in a college setting, certainly has more of a support

507
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 5: group around him helping him out than a twenty four

508
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 5: year old NFL multi millionaire that's living on his own.

509
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Speaker 3: I see I thought you're going to say a regular

510
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 3: twenty four year old, just some twenty four year old,

511
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Speaker 3: not just comparing.

512
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Speaker 5: I'm comparing the mistakes a nineteen year old college kid

513
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Speaker 5: would make to a mistakes that like a third year

514
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Speaker 5: NFL pro would make, like going to.

515
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Speaker 6: Jail or you know, getting suspended or what.

516
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Speaker 3: I think you would think that a nineteen year old

517
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Speaker 3: kid would have more of a motherly and fatherly figure

518
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Speaker 3: still influencing than a twenty four year old.

519
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Speaker 5: Right here, And I think yes, And I think the

520
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 5: college environment fosters more of a hey, we got to

521
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Speaker 5: protect these kids because they're still kids versus an enna

522
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 5: felt teams like this is a business man, what you

523
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Speaker 5: do on your own time is on you.

524
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Speaker 3: I don't think anybody's wrong here, Jackson Dick. I mean,

525
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think your point Jackson, about hey, this

526
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 3: is what comes along with money. I mean, if you're

527
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Speaker 3: going to start getting into a situation where you're asking

528
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Speaker 3: people to give you millions of dollars a year, then

529
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Speaker 3: you better be prepared to have a higher standard of

530
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 3: expectation that falls upon you, period. And the story and

531
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Speaker 3: that I absolutely agree with, and if you're not ready

532
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Speaker 3: to take people's money. If you're not ready to take

533
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 3: millions of dollars for people, then you're not ready for

534
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Speaker 3: it yet. But I mean again, the guy's making like

535
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 3: we all know what he's making now. Yeah, So demon

536
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Speaker 3: Williams goes out there next year and plays bad, this

537
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Speaker 3: is what.

538
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Speaker 2: We're getting for four million whatever.

539
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Speaker 3: Let's hope to god the guy plays, you know well

540
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Speaker 3: enough to avoid that stuff. And I think there are

541
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Speaker 3: certain ways that you talk about a football player in

542
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 3: the pros versus a football player in college. And now

543
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 3: that college players are making money, I will be honest

544
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 3: with you, I feel way more at ease going after

545
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 3: these guys when they're when they're making a lot more

546
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 3: money than they ever were. And by the way people

547
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 3: have mentioned, like, for example, I called them on Williams

548
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 3: a prick. You know why I called him a prick

549
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 3: because of the me, because of the Mia Hammond thing.

550
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 3: That's why I called him a prick. I've ben to

551
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 3: call him prick for leaving Washington. Look if he would

552
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 3: have left UDUB a week ago before he signed his

553
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 3: NIO and just said, you know what, this is not

554
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 3: for me. Whatever, Hey, I'm not happy, trust me. But

555
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 3: there's nowhere near the vitriol. I think that we had

556
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,719
Speaker 3: a week ago, so I've had a lot of people

557
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 3: reach out to me. He said, well, I'd just say

558
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 3: that because he did it during a freaking memorial service

559
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 3: for a young woman that just died of cancer.

560
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 2: How far up your butt.

561
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Speaker 3: Does your head need to be to realize that the

562
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 3: entire team is there, your coaches are there, your head

563
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 3: coaches there. And that was a bad idea, and that

564
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 3: really irritated me. I mean again, maybe I'm in the

565
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,959
Speaker 3: wrong for thinking like that. It's I mean, it's my emotion,

566
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 3: it's my opinion. I feel like I'm entitled to it.

567
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 3: But that is why I called him what I called

568
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 3: him because of the mia ham At angle, not anything else.

569
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Speaker 2: I think that's what a lot.

570
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Speaker 8: Of people who are kind of just you know, trying

571
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 8: to defend him is being critical of people like us

572
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 8: Softie and maybe Dick two. But they're saying, like, why

573
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 8: are you so angry with this kid?

574
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 2: Lead.

575
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Speaker 8: I think what everybody who's against us needs to understand

576
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 8: is the timing of this is as important, I think

577
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 8: as as just the announcement in general, Considering that all

578
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 8: of his teammates and coaches found out about this at

579
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 8: the ceremony on social media. If you can close your eyes,

580
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 8: folks and imagine, god, you are at a funeral service

581
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Speaker 8: or at a celebration of life for a important person

582
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Speaker 8: in your life or important person in the loved one's life,

583
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 8: and at the event you find breaking news about another

584
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 8: family member or something on social media.

585
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Speaker 2: How is that gonna make you feel? Terrible?

586
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 7: Yeah?

587
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: Terrible? And I just feel, like I told Jackson, I was.

588
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 3: You know, Gene is watching ted Lasso now because she

589
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,239
Speaker 3: finally decided, like three years later, it's time to watch it, right,

590
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 3: So she's watching it. Remember the scene where all the

591
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 3: guys in the locker room they call them locker rooms

592
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 3: in the in the Premier League, by the way, and

593
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 3: they're all on their phones and everybody's phone starts going

594
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 3: off at the same time.

595
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Speaker 2: We got Zava.

596
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 3: We got Zava, right, I mean, can you imagine being

597
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 3: at that service and you look down, you see all

598
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 3: these players in the stands and boom, all of a sudden,

599
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 3: they start grabbing their phones, like what the hell's going

600
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 3: on during this thing? So that that that really really

601
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 3: bugged me. But we're kind of through that now. We're

602
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 3: over that now. Now the question is, whatever scars, whatever wounds,

603
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 3: came out of the last couple of days, how long

604
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 3: will it take for them to heal? How likely are

605
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 3: people to kind of move on. I'll be honest with you,

606
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 3: I can already sense the temperature coming down a little bit,

607
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 3: even since last night and two or three days ago.

608
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 3: I do agree with you, Dick, that time heals all wounds.

609
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 3: But then we're gonna get to the season. Then the

610
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 3: season's gonna come, and then he's gonna be in the spotlight.

611
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,239
Speaker 3: What's gonna happen for the next eight months is that

612
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 3: demon Williams is probably gonna go away, right, He's gonna

613
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Speaker 3: go away.

614
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Speaker 2: It's not gonna be on social media. He's not gonna

615
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 2: do a lot of stuff with the media.

616
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 3: Maybe he does his own little press conference and then

617
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 3: that's maybe it until fall camp. But for the most part,

618
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 3: he's gonna go away, and then the season's gonna start,

619
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Speaker 3: and then he's back in the spotlight, and then what happens.

620
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Speaker 2: That's the question for me.

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Speaker 6: It was a flesh wound to start with.

622
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Speaker 5: I mean, on a scale of one to ten, and

623
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Speaker 5: ten being the most angry you could get I was

624
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 5: like A two, So I mean I it does. It's

625
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Speaker 5: not gonna take me long to heal from this. As

626
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Speaker 5: far as what demand does, I mean, I think we

627
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 5: have enough data on demand to know exactly how he's

628
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 5: going to play against teams ranked fiftieth through one hundredth

629
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Speaker 5: in college football. Guys off, the only question is the

630
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 5: three games we play against teams ranked one through twenty

631
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Speaker 5: five in college football. Is he gonna be able to

632
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Speaker 5: get through at least one of those games and lead

633
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Speaker 5: us to a ten and two record?

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Speaker 6: To tell you what, that's what it's gonna take to

635
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 6: make the playoff.

636
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Speaker 3: Tayler's gonna suck as if he struggles and Sam Levitt

637
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 3: goes to Tennessee and tears it up. Next year, we're

638
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 3: gonna break textimonials yet next segment, and then Kem Harlan's

639
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 3: going to join on five normally on Wednesday, but we

640
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 3: had a little basketball game Wednesday, So Kevin Harlan, who's

641
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 3: got the Texans and Steelers on radio by the way,

642
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 3: on Monday, I think he's doing Michigan Wisconsin for TV

643
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 3: tomorrow as well. He'll join us at five on ninety

644
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Speaker 3: three three KJRFM