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Speaker 3: our good friend from Fox nineteen, Joe Danaman. At one

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Speaker 3: o'clock we will have some Scott Sadderfield audio. Yes, the

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Speaker 3: head coach of the Cincinnati Bearcats speaking right now from

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Speaker 3: the indoor practice facility. An update on the off season

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Speaker 3: from the head ball coach of the University of Cincinnati Bearcats.

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Speaker 3: We'll check in there. Charlie Goldsmith had some really good

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Speaker 3: audio clip with Hunter Green that we're gonna dive into

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Speaker 3: today to talk about the ace of the staff for

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Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Reds. I'll ask Nick Castiano's question because why not?

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Speaker 3: Because Nick Castianos, you know, had that moment here in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: He was an all star, He ran over who's the

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Speaker 3: guy for Saint Louis who had a big picture outside

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Speaker 3: of Great American Ballpark. Really set a tone for this organization.

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Speaker 3: Nick Castianos and the Phillies are gonna part ways at

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Speaker 3: some point this week via a trade, or he's going

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Speaker 3: anywhere else. Does it make any sense to get Nick

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Speaker 3: Castianos on board in Cincinnati? Austin and I will discuss

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Speaker 3: that as we go here and talks in baseball and

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Speaker 3: hour number one. Also today, we'll keep you updated with

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Speaker 3: what's going on in Milan. We'll get you updated on

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Speaker 3: the Olympics right now, just a few moments away team

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Speaker 3: USA Mixed doubles curling. They're already guaranteed their first ever

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Speaker 3: will it be silver? That's the question right now. Also

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Speaker 3: while we're on air today, we'll get that and at

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Speaker 3: two o'clock. USA VERSUS Canada women's hockey happening today, So

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Speaker 3: on the updated medal counts from the Olympic Games as well.

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Speaker 3: Cleveland Brown tight end David and Joku will no longer

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Speaker 3: be a Cleveland Brown. Oh, Cleveland, Yeah Brown, Cleveland Brown. Now,

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Speaker 3: I think the writing was a little bit on the wall,

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Speaker 3: and I believe in Djoku fent spent nine years with

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Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns. They drafted a tight end and Harold

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Speaker 3: sure the writing was on the wall. David and Joku

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Speaker 3: is a free agent, no longer a Cleveland Brown.

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Speaker 4: A pretty decent amount of dead money if I'm not

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Speaker 4: mistaken that the Browns are gonna have to deal with

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Speaker 4: over the next couple of years due to the way

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Speaker 4: his contract is structured. But he made that announcement yesterday,

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Speaker 4: which I'm fine with because whenever he was healthy, it

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Speaker 4: felt like he, like every other tight end, would kill

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Speaker 4: the Bengals when they put Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Clint Kubiak is now the head coach officially of the

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Speaker 3: Las Vegas Raiders. Boy Clint, so shout out to Clint Kubiak.

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Speaker 3: I also thought it was interesting we talked about Crosby

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Speaker 3: There is according to reports, Crosby has already told Tom

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Speaker 3: be somewhere. Mac Crosby, where's that report?

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Speaker 4: Because he was just on Colin Cowhard last week and

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Speaker 4: he said he's out on the facility where Raiders. He

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Speaker 3: He ain't playing there.

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Speaker 4: He made that report.

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Speaker 3: Well, let me pull it up here in sec Let

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Speaker 4: Because you know, I don't trust your relationship with the internet.

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Speaker 4: NBC Sports Mike Florio, that's a pretty good one, all right.

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Speaker 4: Said last week, Jay Glazier of Fox made it clear

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Speaker 3: He told Tom Brady will never play for the Raiders again,

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Speaker 4: Interesting, Now, now I don't know if I TRUSTA.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say yeah, but Max Crosby has already

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Speaker 3: He has secured said bag. Speaking of NFL news, former

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Speaker 3: the New York Football Giants. That's the latest NFL news.

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Speaker 4: Offenses that I gadinator or quarterback coach.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it might be the quarterback coach. Sorry, now he's

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Speaker 3: been in that role multiple times before. Quarterback coach for

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Speaker 3: Brian Callian. But I'm sure at some point the hunt

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Speaker 3: with Joe Burrow. How many you.

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Speaker 4: Describe call for the Bengals all of them?

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Speaker 3: None of them? Okay? How many did call for Tennessee?

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Speaker 3: Too many? Not enough? How would you describe these scenes

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Speaker 3: last night in Charlotte Pistons and the Hornets nine game

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Speaker 4: So I didn't see like I was obviously was not

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Speaker 4: I get on social media after the fact that people, oh,

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Speaker 4: it's a melee in Charlott you know the hornets and

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Speaker 4: Let's go see what happens. It was not that big

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Speaker 4: of adeo. So guy goes up, gets fouled, and then

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Speaker 4: kind of strange. And then the one guy shoves the

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Speaker 4: that just elicits punches being thrown, benches being cleared, guys

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Speaker 4: now that's the big no. No, yeah, you can't be.

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Speaker 3: The NBA cracks down on that. It was Isaiah Stewart

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Speaker 3: who came off the Detroit bench and went right at

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Speaker 3: Michel Bridges and he was thrown was throwing what I

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Speaker 3: thought was funny in a sense as well. Austin as

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Speaker 3: Isaiah Stewart had like the he already he had the

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Speaker 3: going off the court, he yelled, why'd you draft him?

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Speaker 3: Draft me in Detroit if you didn't want me to

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Speaker 3: do that? So maybe he's trying to bring a sense

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Speaker 3: of toughness to that Pistons team. Kind of the thirty

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Speaker 4: Bill Lambier ain't walking through that door, right, Somebody's got

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Speaker 3: The thirty nine and thirteen Detroit Pistons.

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Speaker 4: Bill Lambier stunk. By the way, those guys, we're gonna

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Speaker 4: talk about some bad people. Wow, bad boy Pistons. Isaiah Thomas,

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Speaker 4: that guy is insufferable. Wow, all those guys were insufferable.

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Speaker 3: I thought Isaiah Thomas was one of the uh, the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that said a lot. Yeah, and I'm

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Speaker 4: sure you know because Michael produced that whole thing that

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Speaker 4: was by design smart, but you know it's smart hard

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Speaker 4: to disagree with those allegations.

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Speaker 3: College basketball last night and then Austin, there was one

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Speaker 3: one remaining undefeated team in college basketball, and they just

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Speaker 3: happened to reside in Oxford, Ohio. Travis Steele's Miami RedHawks

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Speaker 3: the lone unbeaten after Kansas last night without Darren Peterson,

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Speaker 3: of all people, their star projected number one overall pick,

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Speaker 3: Darren Peterson, he didn't go last night because of quote

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Speaker 3: flew like symptoms. Kansas at the fog still finds a

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Speaker 3: So Travis Steele and the Miami RedHawks, who are getting

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Speaker 3: ready for uh oh u nine o'clock on a Friday

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Speaker 3: night on ESBN, the remaining loan unbeaten. Now, before I

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Speaker 3: get into the rest of college basketball, have you followed

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Speaker 3: along at all with this Darren Peterson stuff at Kansas. No,

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Speaker 3: I don't know who that they are calling him. He's

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Speaker 3: the number one overall player, number one overall prospect projected

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Speaker 3: full of star studded freshmen. He's the head of the

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Speaker 3: the guy who's bringing load management to college basketball. He

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Speaker 4: Guy from He's from Canton, right down Ohio. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 3: So he's missed half of the games this year for Kansas.

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Speaker 3: He sat out the second half for no particular reason

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Speaker 4: We think he's negotiating, trying to get some I wouldn't

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Speaker 4: some extra cheddar, I would think so. But last night Austin,

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Speaker 4: there's a video going around this from it was someone

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Speaker 4: I don't like this.

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Speaker 3: So essentially there's a guy sending a text and then

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Speaker 4: The person sending the text is sitting courtside, like at

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Speaker 4: someone over his shoulders recording it, and the text is quote.

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Speaker 4: So he's sick and didn't tell anyone in practice, and

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Speaker 4: Bill said, don't half bleep it. If you're gonna play,

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Speaker 4: if not, sit out, So Peterson said, ef it, I'm out.

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Speaker 4: Seems like things are going well in Kansas. Yeah, Kansas

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Speaker 4: It said that they are handling it internally. Number one.

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Speaker 4: Number one, don't record somebody's test over their shoulder, and

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Speaker 4: if you do, certainly don't send it to someone or

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Speaker 4: any entity that will post it's because that is lame

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Speaker 4: and that is stupid. We all have phones that are

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Speaker 4: private conversations and so on and so forth, and that

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Speaker 4: if that guy was sending out a tweet, it's a

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Speaker 4: different story. Yeah, But he's sending a private text to

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Speaker 4: whoever he was talking to. I think that is so

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Speaker 4: lame that whoever did that recorded it and then posted it.

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Speaker 3: It's weak.

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Speaker 4: It's weak, And I also think it's probably true because

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Speaker 4: you know, you don't just have those type of details,

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Speaker 3: Make it up right. Other college hoops last night, how

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Speaker 3: about the twenty fourth RNGTH Louisville Cardinals at home? Last night?

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Speaker 3: The NC State Wolfpack came in often they were nine

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Speaker 3: and two in the ACC was NC State.

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Speaker 4: What are they now?

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Speaker 3: Nine and three?

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Speaker 4: Beaten like a Grand Canyon mule last night Molly wopped

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Speaker 4: what's his face? At forty five?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, MIKEL.

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Speaker 4: Brown Junior, And I think that was just his ode

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Speaker 4: forty eight batters. Yeah, that would be a fine season,

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Speaker 4: but that would be a disappointment for everybody if those

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Speaker 4: were the numbers for Hunter Green in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Yep, good but not great. And I think the bar

438
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Speaker 3: right now for Hunter Green is greatness. And to your point,

439
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Speaker 3: that's what I think is a interest about this team.

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Speaker 3: It feels like we don't talk about hunter in that

441
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Speaker 3: stratosphere enough and I feel like somehow, some way, Andrew

442
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Speaker 3: Abbit just kind of flies under the radar. And as

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Speaker 3: you mentioned, it's not out of the room for Andrew

444
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Speaker 3: Abbit to be top ten in the Say Young voting.

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Speaker 4: I think Abbott has just kind of got this this

446
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Speaker 4: workhorse t of persona about him.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 4: He started last year banged up, and it took him

449
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Speaker 4: a little bit to get ready to go, and what

450
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Speaker 4: was it a month after the season started before he

451
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Speaker 4: was good to go. But you know, for the most part,

452
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Speaker 4: Abbott has pitched until his arm fell off. You think

453
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Speaker 4: of his rookie year, he was unbelievable and ran out

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Speaker 4: of gas at the end. This past season, he started

455
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Speaker 4: a little bit late and carried them through the stretch.

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Speaker 4: And it's still a shame that he didn't get a

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Speaker 4: chance to pitch in the NL wild Card round. And

458
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Speaker 4: so that dude has been available, and that dude, it

459
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Speaker 4: feels like, has a different style of pitching that maybe

460
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Speaker 4: people almost puts people to sleep, yep, because he's just

461
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Speaker 4: he will he will pitch, he won't just throw. And

462
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Speaker 4: Hunters is more than that as well. But his thing

463
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Speaker 4: is power. He's going to overpower you with the fastball.

464
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Speaker 4: He's got that slider that can be really nasty. He's

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Speaker 4: working on that split finger. So the styles contrast, where

466
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Speaker 4: maybe Andrew Abbit will just kind of Greg Maddox shit

467
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Speaker 4: of death, whereas Hunter Green is going to throw it

468
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Speaker 4: right by you, and that's a little bit more of

469
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Speaker 4: an exciting style.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that their contrast is just is excellent.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's what makes the idea of the

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Speaker 4: red starting rotation and how far that can take them

473
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Speaker 4: this year so exciting. Number One, you've got two lefties

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Speaker 4: in there, which can make it really difficult on a

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Speaker 4: team over the course of a series, especially if those

476
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Speaker 4: lefties are going back to back. And it's not just

477
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Speaker 4: two lefties, it's two entirely different lefties. You've got Andrew Abbott, who,

478
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Speaker 4: as I just outlined, is that you really precise, accurate pitcher.

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Speaker 4: And you've got Nicolodolo who's got this long, lanky, a

480
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Speaker 4: little bit of wild and he'll throw heat up under

481
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Speaker 4: your chin and then make you look like a fool

482
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Speaker 4: with a slider down in a way that's so hard

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Speaker 4: to defend and then to hit against. And then oh,

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Speaker 4: by the way, here's Chase Burns throwing a hundred. Here's

485
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Speaker 4: Hunter Green throwing a hundred. Brady Singer is a complete

486
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Speaker 4: pitcher all around. Like that's what makes me so excited

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Speaker 4: about their potential, and obviously the you gotta be on

488
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Speaker 4: the field, you gotta play, you gotta make those changes.

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Speaker 4: But the potential of this starting rotation carrying them throughout

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Speaker 4: the season is that's what makes people believe even if

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Speaker 4: the offense takes a little bit of time to get going,

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Speaker 4: the pitching can carry them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's such an excitement and there's such a

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Speaker 3: build up, and there's you know again, I think the

495
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Speaker 3: We've asked Jim Day, We've asked Charlie, We've asked Joe Daneman,

496
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Speaker 3: what's the ceiling, and it's a top three, top five

497
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Speaker 3: ceiling rotation, and all of baseball really feels like that

498
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Speaker 3: is the opportunity, that is the upside that this team possesses.

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Speaker 3: Let's take a break, let's come back. Let's steer this

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Speaker 3: to the Nick Castianos question and tie in some phone

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Speaker 3: calls as well. Five one, three, seven, fifteen thirty. That

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Speaker 3: ahead on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: From the Court to the Cam, the Diamond to the Dome,

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Speaker 2: he brings the heat Moegar Today at three pm on

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 3: There is an apportant welcome back. It is since e

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Speaker 3: three sixty. You're listening on the Home of the Bengals

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Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Thanks here, and I

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Speaker 3: remember one to our friends, it's skyline chilly, all right,

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Speaker 3: I'll take the bait here, Austin, I'll do it. Take

511
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Speaker 3: the bait, I'll take the bait. In Philadelphia, rumors and

512
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Speaker 3: reports are circulating. I don't think it's a rumor at

513
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Speaker 3: this point, because it's all been confirmed. The Philadelphia Phillies

514
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Speaker 3: are before Monday trying to part ways with Nick Castianos.

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Speaker 3: They are either going to do this via trade, and

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Speaker 3: quite frankly, if the trade doesn't work, then I just

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Speaker 3: believe Nick Castianos is going to be a free agent.

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Speaker 11: Now.

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Speaker 3: The issue is for Nick Castianos, and I'm sure any

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Speaker 3: trade partners. This is the twenty million dollars he's owed while

521
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Speaker 3: also turning thirty four in early March. If a trade

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Speaker 3: were to even be done for Nick Castianos, it is

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Speaker 3: believed that the Phillies are gonna have to eat for

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Speaker 3: fifteen to eighteen million of that. The other option is

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Speaker 3: that they released Nick Castianos. He can sign anywhere he wants,

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Speaker 3: and the Phillies are on the hook for the full

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Speaker 3: twenty million dollars that he's guaranteed to make in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty six. Now, Nick Castianos only hit seventeen home runs

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Speaker 3: last year. Nick Castianos is an outfield I would say

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Speaker 3: below average outfielder who also swings and misses a lot,

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Speaker 3: but did bring an energy to the Cincinnati Reds. He

532
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Speaker 3: was fantastic with his time in Cincinnati, a fan favorite.

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Speaker 3: This club has talked a lot in the offseason. We've

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Speaker 3: heard a lot about making moves to sell tickets and

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Speaker 3: put fans in the stands. And I get the logistics

536
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Speaker 3: of it. I get that lineup potentially with Ellie and

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Speaker 3: Suarez and Castianos is a heck of a lot of strikeouts.

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Speaker 3: But if it's not an everyday position player, I actually

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Speaker 3: would be open to Nick Castianos coming back to Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: Where do you stand on that?

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Speaker 4: Not interested? Okay, just don't think he fits. I mean,

542
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Speaker 4: I think you fixed that issue when you signed au

543
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Speaker 4: Haanio Suarez like I like Nick Castianos too, But it's

544
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Speaker 4: been a few years since he played for the Reds,

545
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Speaker 4: and that player really hasn't returned. In twenty three, he

546
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Speaker 4: hit twenty nine homers, and then twenty three and then

547
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Speaker 4: seventeen a year ago. Listen, I follow enough and see

548
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Speaker 4: enough Phillies fans that will tell you Nick Castianos has

549
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Speaker 4: not been a very popular player in that city. His

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Speaker 4: batting average has dropped over twenty points since that twenty

551
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Speaker 4: twenty three season. You look at his Baseball Savant page,

552
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Speaker 4: you don't see a lot of red. You see a

553
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Speaker 4: lot of blue. And that's not good. And so as

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Speaker 4: far as I'm concerned, like, yeah, great guy, loved having

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Speaker 4: him when he was the Reds. When he was with

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Speaker 4: the Reds, but that was a long time ago, and

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Speaker 4: I don't think he can help them now. Okay, I think,

558
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Speaker 4: especially when you look at it against left handers last year,

559
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Speaker 4: he didn't hit very good against lefties. If you are

560
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Speaker 4: bringing somebody into this ball club right now, you need

561
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Speaker 4: somebody that can hit against left handed pitching, and Nick

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Speaker 4: Castianos has not been that guy.

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Speaker 3: You say, the roster going to spring training right now,

564
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Speaker 3: and again I wouldn't say in on a starting role,

565
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Speaker 3: but you say, roster wise, what they have at the

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Speaker 3: bottom of the road, bottom of the bench is stronger

567
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Speaker 3: or better for this team than Nick Castianos.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say so. I mean maybe it's about

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Speaker 4: the same. Yeah, I mean the season that Will Benson

570
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Speaker 4: had last year. I know it wasn't great, but there

571
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Speaker 4: was at least some stuff to build off of, and

572
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Speaker 4: you feel like he's us ending instead of descending now.

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Speaker 4: I think JJ Bledet had a great season in twenty

574
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Speaker 4: twenty four, struggled and was hurt at times last year.

575
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Speaker 4: Dane Myers is more of a defensive replacement, and Mash

576
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Speaker 4: is left handed hitting or left handed pitching. So I

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Speaker 4: just look at that, and Casianos can't play the infield anymore.

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Speaker 4: Not to mention, you know, his fielding he had, I

579
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Speaker 4: mean not kidding, one of the worst outs above average

580
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Speaker 4: of any field or in baseball last year at minus twelve.

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Speaker 4: So he's a complete liability in the field. There's just

582
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Speaker 4: nowhere for him to go, especially when you've got two

583
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Speaker 4: guys in South Stewart and Ajohanho Suarez who are probably

584
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Speaker 4: gonna take up most of your dch at bats.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I am again, I I'm not closed

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Speaker 3: off to the fact I think that if it were

587
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Speaker 3: a situation where you're talking end of the bench type

588
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Speaker 3: of player that doesn't play every day, I could see it.

589
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Speaker 3: But I'm sure that Nick Castianos is going to be

590
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Speaker 3: out there and he's going to get some team that's

591
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Speaker 3: going to say, Okay, well have you come in and

592
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Speaker 3: you're an everyday starter for us? And that's not Norwich,

593
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 3: nor should it be in my opinion, the Cincinnati Bengal

594
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Speaker 3: or Cincinnati Reds. But would be a fun conversation and

595
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Speaker 3: would make this team certainly certainly very interesting. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I just think we hold on to this guy who

597
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 4: was here four years ago. Oh absolutely, that was four

598
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Speaker 4: years ago. Absolutely, And that season he had was like

599
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Speaker 4: the best of his career and thirty four homers, drove

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Speaker 4: in one hundred runs. He saw He's only done that

601
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Speaker 4: two other times in his career. Yeah, And I think

602
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Speaker 4: maybe he was a product of the ballpark and maybe

603
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Speaker 4: that's reason to bring him in him back. I hear

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Speaker 4: what you're saying. I just don't think you're ever gonna

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Speaker 4: get that guy back. And I don't know that there's

606
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Speaker 4: that much of a difference between the dudes who are

607
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Speaker 4: currently at the end of the bench. Yeah, and what

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Speaker 4: neck Nick Castianos might bring.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh, to the phone lines, we go, what's up, Mike,

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Speaker 3: how are.

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Speaker 12: You, hey sos who like the baseball talk, thank you

612
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Speaker 12: for that. Yeah, we couldn't make it all the way back.

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Speaker 12: We had to sleep and get a room in Santa

614
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Speaker 12: Barbara because it was just we were to so tired.

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Speaker 12: But I forgot how beautiful Santa Barbara is. What a

616
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Speaker 12: nice place. If you ever get a chance to go

617
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Speaker 12: to a man check it out. Proy the ideals small

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Speaker 12: town in the country in my opinions, speaking of Hunter, well,

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Speaker 12: we all know what the deal is with Hunter. Can

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Speaker 12: you get a healthy season out of it or not?

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Speaker 12: Now that leads me to a theory on the card thrower,

622
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Speaker 12: because over the years, there ever't been a lot of

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Speaker 12: hard throwers that they have real long careers, except for

624
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Speaker 12: guys like Clemons maybe Noan Ryan. A lot of them

625
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Speaker 12: end up with their surgeries there Tommy Johnson, they come

626
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Speaker 12: back to a different picture, and usually a better picture.

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Speaker 12: So I can't be confident at all. Why why should

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Speaker 12: I be confident that is gonna not hurt himself Because

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Speaker 12: he's still gonna keep throwing those hundred over one hour

630
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Speaker 12: balls and the majority of his pitches. And I think

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Speaker 12: it's tough on the kid, on the young man's body,

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Speaker 12: and I hope not. But now, how can you be

633
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Speaker 12: optimistic because the history doesn't allow you to be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the history. And to me, you know, we've

635
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 3: talked about this before. There's something to be said about

636
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Speaker 3: pitching high stressful innings all the time, and this team's

637
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 3: lack of offense in recent years I think has caused

638
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 3: this pitching staff and a guy like Hunter Green who

639
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 3: throws hard. You're pitching in such higher leverage situations because

640
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Speaker 3: you feel like you have to be perfect. You feel

641
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Speaker 3: like you can only give up a run to have

642
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Speaker 3: a chance to win a game to times, and I

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Speaker 3: think those situations add more stress to the upper body

644
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Speaker 3: in the arm and cause problems as the season, as

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Speaker 3: the season wears on.

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Speaker 12: I couldn't agree more. You know, I heard this the

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Speaker 12: other day. We had my memory refreshed. You know, probably

648
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Speaker 12: the best world's most exciting World Series I've seen was

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Speaker 12: the year after the Reds won it ninety was the

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Speaker 12: ninety one series between the Twins and the Breaks. They

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Speaker 12: both both finished dead last the year before. In ninety

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Speaker 12: I mean, the Braves were sixty five and ninety seven,

653
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Speaker 12: and and that World Series had had five one run

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Speaker 12: games and three extra inning games. It's known as as

655
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Speaker 12: the worst to the best, the worst to the best

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Speaker 12: or something world series. But that was the most exciting

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Speaker 12: world series. And it was some two teams that weren't,

658
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Speaker 12: you know, around the country highly regarded or not considered,

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Speaker 12: two dynasties from meeting head to head or anything. Do

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Speaker 12: you guys remember that ninety one World Series?

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Speaker 3: I don't remember, mother, I remember reading up on it,

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Speaker 3: but no, and I don't remember much of it. I

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Speaker 3: wasn't alive.

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Speaker 12: If you ever get to look at some clue us

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Speaker 12: from it and stuff for just Google, you know, it's

666
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 12: it's really it was a blast, and it just took

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Speaker 12: everybody by surprise. So they're not going to get anybody

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Speaker 12: else in right. Flarez was about the deal and now

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Speaker 12: it's over here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like it to me. Good.

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Speaker 12: I wish they could have got a left handed town.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: You just don't know if Elie's gonna do it or not.

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Speaker 13: You just don't there's the other question.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Ellie, I think so all least so

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Speaker 3: unique in a sense that you know, we we've had

677
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Speaker 3: conversations of Ellie being in the MVP conversation and then

678
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Speaker 3: there's conversations of kind of what happened to Ellie is

679
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 3: the season more on last year? So I think those

680
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 3: are are very different comparisons. And obviously fans here are

681
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Speaker 3: hoping for, uh, for the former of competing for an

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Speaker 3: m v P, and if so, it changes the trajectory

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Speaker 3: and the outlook of this season.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Do you think that that, uh, frankcon Will entertained thoughts

686
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Speaker 12: of having the team run a little bit more since

687
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Speaker 12: the year before he got here we were that was

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Speaker 12: a forte I put pressure on the other teams we played.

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Speaker 13: That's why we had a good year.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: He he was at Austin Moon was he asked about

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Speaker 3: it where he essentially said that his view on on

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Speaker 3: aggressiveness on the base pass is running into outs as well. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think it was around Red's Fest where he was like,

695
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Speaker 4: we just ran into too many outs on the base pass,

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Speaker 4: and when you don't have an offense, that's that's uh,

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Speaker 4: you know that great, you can't really afford to run

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Speaker 4: into outs on the base pass. So it doesn't sound

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Speaker 4: like that philosophy is going to change, unfortunately.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Would I would prefer them to. That makes total sense

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Speaker 12: when you hear it on the surface, But don't you

703
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 12: think that other brand of baseball. I think the fans

704
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Speaker 12: were much more into it.

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Speaker 14: I was.

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Speaker 3: I thought I thought they were a matchup nightmare because

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Speaker 3: of the aggressiveness on the base pass and what it

708
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Speaker 3: causes to other teams that you essentially have to be perfect.

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Speaker 3: I get I get where Terry Francone is coming from,

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Speaker 3: but I like making an opponent feel uncomfortable and knowing

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Speaker 3: that if you get a guy on base, you have

712
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Speaker 3: to be perfect. And I just don't think they were

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Speaker 3: that enough last year.

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Speaker 12: Yeah. I don't either. All Right, guys, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Take care, Thanks Mike, Kevin good one. Yeah, we'll have

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Speaker 3: to look Austin at the run support for Hunter Green

717
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 3: last year. I don't think it was good. But the

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Speaker 3: high leverage innings that were pitched by all the red

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Speaker 3: starters because of the lack of offense, that's something we

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Speaker 3: talked about. But in today's age, doesn't it feel like

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Speaker 3: the majority of pitchers Austin are hard throwers? I mean,

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Speaker 3: doesn't it feel like most pitchers are hitting ninety seven

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Speaker 3: ninety eight. Yeah, it's a big part of It's almost

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Speaker 3: like the Andrew Abbots of the world. Are now the exception,

725
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Speaker 3: whereas years ago you see a guy throwing ninety eight,

726
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Speaker 3: and that's a big difference. You see more of that

727
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Speaker 3: now and less of the control pitchers like an Andrew Abbott.

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Speaker 3: In this edition of Major League Baseball, we'll take a break,

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Speaker 3: we'll finish up this conversation at the other end, and

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Speaker 3: then we'll get Joe Danam into the top of our

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Speaker 3: number two. Since he three sixty, you're listening here on

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Speaker 3: the Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Tony Pike sincey three sixty on ESPN

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Speaker 1: fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, sincey three sixty. Roll along our number one

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Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Thanks to our friends.

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Speaker 3: It's Skyline Chili. Anytime you're feeling good and hungry, it

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Speaker 3: is always Skyline Chili. There are times, Austin we kind

739
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Speaker 3: of look back at times of things that have happened

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Speaker 3: on this date in Cincinnati sports history. Did you see

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Speaker 3: what today brings? Two thousand February tenth, two thousand, King

742
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Speaker 3: Gurfey Junior officially came home. Do you remember that day

743
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Speaker 3: at all?

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 4: My earliest memories were like late two thousand. That to me,

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Speaker 4: I mean, I've seen the clip the five times of

748
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Speaker 4: all the flash bulbs going off at the press conference.

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Speaker 3: That to me was one of, in my opinion, the

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Speaker 3: coolest days to be a Cincinnati Reds fan because you

751
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Speaker 3: didn't know what was ahead. You didn't know the heartbreak

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Speaker 3: of the injuries that were gonna come. Because at that

753
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Speaker 3: time you had one of the best players in Major

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Speaker 3: League Baseball signing in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: I think you could say he was, yeah, the best

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Speaker 4: player in right here League Baseball.

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Speaker 3: And again you were filled with so much hope and

758
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Speaker 3: excitement and optimism. Yeah, we know what came after it.

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Speaker 4: A guy who had made ten straight All Star Games

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Speaker 4: up unto that point, had been hitting forty eight, fifty six,

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Speaker 4: fifty six, forty nine, forty forty five homers, driving in

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Speaker 4: one hundred and forty plus runs. It seemed like every

763
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Speaker 4: year he was the face of Nike's campaign. Like in

764
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Speaker 4: baseball it was Ken Griffy Junior and Bo Jackson, and

765
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Speaker 4: in basketball was Michael Jordan. Like they were the top

766
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Speaker 4: athletes of the nineties, and the story was so cool

767
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Speaker 4: for him to be able to come back, and he

768
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 4: had a really good year in two thousand for the

769
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Speaker 4: Reds forty homers, one hundred and eighteen runs batted in.

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Speaker 4: I remember the seeing the video clips of like it

771
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Speaker 4: took him forever to hit his first home run and

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Speaker 4: then they came in bunches after that. But yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 4: if you're thinking back to that time, the Reds had

774
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Speaker 4: been a decade without a championship, really kind of lacking

775
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Speaker 4: star power, and they pull off a trade and an

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Speaker 4: extension for the best player in baseball, It's hard to

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Speaker 4: fathom that.

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Speaker 3: It's such a surreal feeling.

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Speaker 4: That's like if the Reds just pulled off a trade

780
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Speaker 4: for Sho Heo Tany that that's the equivalent to h

781
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Speaker 4: It's hard to fathom. I wonder what Joe Daneman remembers

782
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Speaker 4: about that day. We're gonna ask him in just a

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Speaker 4: few moments. He'll join us at the top of our

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Speaker 4: number two on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Men, this is Tony.

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Speaker 1: Pike, Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati. From Cincinnati, this is

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Speaker 1: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: All right, here we go, start of our number two

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Speaker 3: since e three sixty on the home of the Bengals,

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Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Our guy on Tuesdays.

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Speaker 3: Right here to kick off our number two from Fox

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Speaker 3: nineteen is one Joe Daniman joining us right now. Joey D.

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 13: What's up?

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Speaker 8: Tony?

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Speaker 13: Hi, Austin. How are you guys?

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Speaker 4: Wonderful Joe better now that you're here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what a what a fantastic way to kick off

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Speaker 3: our number two. I do have to ask, Joe, are

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Speaker 3: you a big Olympic guy? If so, do you have

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Speaker 3: a favorite Winter Olympic sport.

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Speaker 8: I'm a huge summer Olympics guy. I'm a casual Winter

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Speaker 8: Olympics guy. So when I get home from work, and

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00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 8: I'll usually get home from work a little after midnight

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Speaker 8: after doing the late news, the last thing I usually

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00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 8: want to do when I get home is like watch

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Speaker 8: Sports Center or watch anything else sports after the day.

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Speaker 13: You know, it just depends.

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Speaker 8: If the NBA is on late, I'll watch the NBA,

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Speaker 8: but I'm typically a movie guy, and last night when

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Speaker 8: I got home, I felt this burn to watch Miracle.

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Speaker 8: Oh no, I watched Miracle last night to get myself

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Speaker 8: fired up for Team USA hockey. That's my one big

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Speaker 8: event for the Winter Olympics. I like watching speed skating.

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Speaker 8: I really appreciate what a lot of these folks do

820
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Speaker 8: going downhill and skiing at the speed they go at.

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Speaker 8: But when it comes to what's going to grab my attention,

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Speaker 8: it's absolutely Team USA hockey. I challenge people to go

823
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Speaker 8: at some point to to look at what the Russians

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Speaker 8: did in every other game they played in the nineteen

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Speaker 8: eighty Olympics outside of the US eight games. I mean,

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Speaker 8: their gold differential was near sixty and we somehow beat

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Speaker 8: them in nineteen eighty. So yeah, Olympic hockey is my jam.

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Speaker 3: Okay. On this date in the year two thousand, Ken

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Speaker 3: Griffy Junior was announced to the Cincinnati Reds Austin. I

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Speaker 3: think put it, yeah, put it great. In the previous segment,

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Speaker 3: that would be like today, Shoho Tani signing with the

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Reds. Do you remember anything specifically about that day

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Speaker 3: in Cincinnati?

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Speaker 8: Of course, so I was in college this is a

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Speaker 8: great memory of mine. I was in college up at

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Speaker 8: Syracuse and I'm in the middle of New York Mets

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Speaker 8: and New York Yankees country, and so when the trade

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Speaker 8: was announced, I remember seeing it come across the ESPN

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Speaker 8: bottom line. That was like where you got your news then,

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Speaker 8: because the Internet was just starting to happen on college emphasis.

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Speaker 8: So I saw it come across the bottom line, and

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00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 8: ESPN actually dipped into the press conference. So there I

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Speaker 8: am in my friend's dorm room. I think it was

844
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Speaker 8: six o'clock Sports Center at that time. They dipped into

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Speaker 8: Ken Griffy Junior's press conference. And what always stood out

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Speaker 8: to me and how different it is now is if

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Speaker 8: you go back and you can watch it, I believe

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Speaker 8: it's on YouTube, there are like politicians standing behind Ken

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Speaker 8: Griffy Junior. You know, you've got the Red Brass, You've

850
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Speaker 8: got ownership, You've got Jim Bowden, You've got Junior family,

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Speaker 8: You've got some of the Red Legends, and then you

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Speaker 8: have Charlie Luken, the mayor of Cincinnati's there. I think

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00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 8: Cincinnati City Council people are there. So you go back

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Speaker 8: and you think about that twenty five, twenty six years ago.

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Speaker 8: How big of a deal it was for Cincinnati to

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Speaker 8: get Ken Griffy Junior. You had politicians there at the

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Speaker 8: press conference. The other thing I miss that's now gone

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Speaker 8: from how local media does things. If you go back

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Speaker 8: and look at the podium, there are like thirty microphones

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Speaker 8: up there. I love that aura. That that is aura

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Speaker 8: of a big moment. Now if we all plug into

862
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Speaker 8: one microphone and we have this thing called a malt

863
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Speaker 8: box and it leads to our cameras and all the

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Speaker 8: mic flags are now gone, But that moment right there,

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Speaker 8: the fact that there are politicians behind Keen Griffy Junior,

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Speaker 8: made you know how big of a deal it was.

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Speaker 8: And you if you're around back then and listen, guys,

868
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 8: I was alive during the nineteen ninety World Series. I

869
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 8: was ten years old, and that was a great team.

870
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 8: I loved that team and watched every minute of the playoffs.

871
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 8: But the nineteen ninety nine team hit just a little

872
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 8: bit different for guys around my age. If you find

873
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 8: anybody between forty and fifty years old, they're going to

874
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 8: tell you how much they loved that ninety nine team.

875
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 8: And the fact that the ninety nine team was then

876
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 8: adding Keen Griffy Junior. It was almost like, just go

877
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 8: ahead and print the World Series ticket. Now they're going

878
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 8: It didn't work out that way, but.

879
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 13: When you had the excitement of what that team did,

880
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 13: and then you add that player coming.

881
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 8: Back to his hometown, it was unbelievable excitement, even for

882
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 8: me all the way up in New York.

883
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 3: It just there's the image of kind of his dad

884
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 3: in the background, and you see the joy on his

885
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 3: dad's face, and it just to me what I remember

886
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 3: because at that time you obviously don't know the future.

887
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 3: It was just the It was the excitement, and then

888
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 3: it was the thought of, man, they could go win

889
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 3: the whole thing, the optimism around what had happened in

890
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 3: Cincinnati to get a player of that caliber, and again,

891
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 3: that's kind of what now this time of the year is.

892
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 3: It's it's a time for optimism. It's a time to think, Okay,

893
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 3: everyone is in play, everyone has an opportunity, and that

894
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 3: obviously bodes well for this team as well as spring training,

895
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 3: pitchers and catchers have reported, where do you sense the

896
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 3: optimism matter? I know you're gonna have a chance to

897
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 3: be around this team, but just from an overall feel

898
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 3: around the Reds. Does it feel like there's an optimism

899
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 3: growing about the possibility of what they can do coming

900
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 3: off a year where they made the playoffs?

901
00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 8: Yeah, how could it not be? And I think I

902
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 8: think the important thing is if you look at this

903
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 8: and I go back to the conversations we had after

904
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 8: the Red Series against the Dodgers, and I remember a

905
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 8: word I used on Twitter after I got out of

906
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 8: the Reds clubhouse, and I'm not sure the word landed

907
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 8: well immediately with the fan base, but I think the

908
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 8: more people thought about it, the more they watched the

909
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 8: Dodgers play, I think there was that feeling of accomplishment

910
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 8: of what this team did, that they had to get

911
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 8: a foot in the door last year, and if there

912
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 8: are steps that are made for a young core to

913
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,919
Speaker 8: go ahead and start taking those steps, that was step

914
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 8: one last year getting to the playoffs. Now, I know

915
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,439
Speaker 8: that the eighty three win number is not good enough.

916
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 8: I don't think anybody can go into twenty twenty six

917
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 8: and say, Okay, maybe winning eighty three, eighty four, eighty

918
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 8: five games might be enough. I think you have to

919
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 8: think bigger. I think you have to have a bigger number.

920
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 8: But then when you have that team who took a step,

921
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 8: and then you have ownership who then takes a step

922
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 8: to go payroll and add au Hennio Suarez and excite

923
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 8: the fan base. And now you're thinking, oh, that guy

924
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 8: might add three or four more wins to a team

925
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 8: that we thought could win about eighty five games. So

926
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 8: now you're thinking closer to ninety games. And if you're

927
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 8: thinking about winning ninety games, do the Milwaukee Brewers take

928
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 8: a step back to the Chicago Cubs not win ninety

929
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 8: five to one hundred games? Can the Reds be there

930
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 8: in September with a chance to make a run at

931
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 8: the NL Central title. To me, that's what this has

932
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 8: become now. It's not just getting into the playoffs. It

933
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:37,240
Speaker 8: can this team win an NL Central title against the Cubs,

934
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 8: against the Brewers teams that have you know, we look

935
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 8: at the Milwaukee Brewers. They dominated this division here in

936
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 8: recent years. So that's the kind of excitement I think

937
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 8: should be around this team that they should be thinking

938
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,439
Speaker 8: win NL Central and get in the playoffs that way.

939
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 8: But either way, I feel it's last year with step one.

940
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 8: This year should be step two of now getting in

941
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 8: the playoffs and being a factor in the playoffs and

942
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 8: maybe even as a division winner.

943
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 3: Is this roster going to spring training as is? Or

944
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 3: would you like to get crazy with me, Joe and

945
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 3: bring Nick Casios back to this team?

946
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 13: Oh no, no, no, no, no no no. Nick Cassianus

947
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 13: does not does not fit this.

948
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 8: Team, not from production and playing in the outfield wise,

949
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 8: but also.

950
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 13: The kind of attitude he has.

951
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 8: And I think when he came to Cincinnati the first time, uh,

952
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 8: this team needed that attitude. They needed somebody with an edge,

953
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 8: and he backed it up with his play and I

954
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 8: think Cincinnati fell in love with that. But I don't

955
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 8: think this is a guy that even if you were

956
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 8: to come to Cincinnati, uh, what would have an everyday

957
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 8: role that would not sit well with him. And if

958
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 8: things don't sit well with him, it can rock the boat.

959
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 8: And I don't think this room needs that. It's a

960
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 8: different personality team that than what it was when he

961
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 8: was here. I don't think they play with that kind

962
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 8: of edge. I think this team likes to play with

963
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 8: a little bit more of a loose, enjoy kind of

964
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 8: feel to them, as opposed to what Nick Cantianos did

965
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 8: in his year in Cincinnati. No, I don't think that fits.

966
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 8: I also think he's rapidly going downhill as far as

967
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 8: production goes. He might have a renaissance year somewhere and

968
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 8: maybe Great American Ballpark would unlock a little bit more

969
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 8: of his numbers closer to what they were when.

970
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 3: He was here.

971
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 8: But he absolutely I don't think fits from a culture

972
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 8: standpoint with this current red roster, and I don't think

973
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 8: he fits as a bad defensive player for a team

974
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 8: that really wants to lean into pitching a defense.

975
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 3: We heard our guy Charlie Goldsmith asked Hunter Green the

976
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 3: question about kind of the white board and the goal

977
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 3: setting that he has for each year, and that goal

978
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 3: for twenty twenty five was one hundred and eighty or

979
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 3: more innings sub three ERA, two hundred plus strikeouts, an

980
00:52:55,360 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 3: All Star, and a Cy Young Award win. He made

981
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 3: one of those goals happen. How many of those goals

982
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 3: in today's Major League baseball? When you think of the

983
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 3: injuries he's gone through, you think of who's around in

984
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 3: the sayh Youung race in the National League with Paul

985
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 3: Skeins and Yamamoto and Otani. Out of those goals, which

986
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 3: ones do you feel like are most attainable that Hunter

987
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 3: Green can pull off because I feel like it starts

988
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 3: with one hundred and eighty or more innings, because if

989
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 3: he does that, that means he's healthy, right, and it

990
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 3: gives him an opportunity.

991
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,479
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think it hits the one eighty number.

992
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 8: I think four of those five are going to fall

993
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 8: into place, just naturally. I haven't looked at some of

994
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 8: his numbers recently, but I think his career high is

995
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 8: around one hundred and fifty. And when he threw one

996
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 8: hundred and fifty innings, he finished with somewhere near one

997
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 8: hundred and seventy strikeouts and was an All Star. So

998
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 8: if he gets up to the one eighty mark, and

999
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 8: that would be about thirty starts, which you would expect

1000
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 8: him to do if he's healthy. Yeah, certainly four of

1001
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 8: those five fall into place. And if four of those

1002
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 8: five fall into place, he's gonna be in consideration for

1003
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 8: the fifth one, which would be the cy Young.

1004
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 13: Now, you made a great point of the competition he's

1005
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 13: up against in the National.

1006
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 8: League, and if I'm the Dodgers, I'm limiting Yamamoto somewhat

1007
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 8: this year. You know, I'm limiting him to twenty to

1008
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 8: twenty five stars and keep him fresh for the playoffs.

1009
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 8: Certainly they'll do that with Sho Hee Otani just naturally,

1010
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 8: to make sure he's okay for the playoffs. Paul's kines

1011
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 8: the horse. He'll throw his one hundred and eighty one

1012
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 8: hundred and ninety innings and he'll be in conversations for

1013
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 8: the cy Young if not win it again every time

1014
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 8: he throws those numbers. But the baseball is a weird game.

1015
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 8: Guys have injury miss time, and therefore other guys might

1016
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 8: step up and win awards. So yeah, I think if

1017
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 8: Hunter Green hits the one eighty number, all of that

1018
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 8: stuff falls into place. I find Hunter Green to still

1019
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 8: be the most fascinating player on the Reds roster. I

1020
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 8: know Eli Dava Cruz gets all the national attention, but

1021
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 8: you know, he does share a lot with us about,

1022
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 8: you know, his personal life. Ellie is just kind of

1023
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 8: there and play baseball and does this thing.

1024
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 13: But Hunter Green the.

1025
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 8: Idea that he's willing to share with us, how much

1026
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 8: he cares about his standing in the organization, how much

1027
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 8: he cares about earning that standing with the organization, that

1028
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 8: he's been groomed ever since he was drafted to be

1029
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 8: this team's ace, and he's been very transparent that he

1030
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 8: had to earn that title to be the ACE. And

1031
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 8: we're in year five for Hunter Green. I think he's

1032
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 8: earned that titles as the team's a. Some people would say,

1033
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 8: Andrew Abbott, why not him be the ace. I don't

1034
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 8: think Andrew's wired that way to care about that title

1035
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 8: or be an opening day starter. I do think Hunter is,

1036
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 8: and I think that's interesting about him in year five,

1037
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 8: is is this the year that he really capitalizes on

1038
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 8: his standing in the organization, A fresh year, a fresh start,

1039
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 8: and him kind of taking those numbers and those goals

1040
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 8: and running with it and stamping himself as one of

1041
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 8: the faces of pitching in the National League, in Major

1042
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 8: League Baseball.

1043
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 3: Let me ask you your forecasting hot here, Andrew Abbot,

1044
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 3: Hunter Green, who finishes higher and Cy Young voting at

1045
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 3: the end.

1046
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 13: Of the year Hunter Green?

1047
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 8: Okay, Yes, I will go Hunter Green, just because I

1048
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 8: think Hunter's steeling is higher, Andrew's floor might be higher,

1049
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 8: and I think we all understand what I mean by that.

1050
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,280
Speaker 8: It just feels like Andrew Abbott. You're going to get steady,

1051
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 8: steady production from Andrew Abbott. At all times, but at

1052
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 8: the end of the year, if it comes down to numbers,

1053
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:45,760
Speaker 8: production moments, you know, Hunter Green's gonna have some moments.

1054
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 8: Some twelve strikeout games, some thirteen strikeout game. He might

1055
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 8: take a no hitter in at the seventh or eighth inning.

1056
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 8: He might get a no hitter this year for the

1057
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 8: first time in his career. Shutouts, the high pitch velocity, numbers,

1058
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 8: those kinds of things you start talking about awards, we

1059
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,959
Speaker 8: kind of refer to it in sports as someone's Heisman moment.

1060
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 8: He's gonna have moments like that throughout the year, So

1061
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 8: I think his net is a little bit wider for

1062
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 8: him to get that kind of attention for cy Young Awards.

1063
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 8: So if I had money to put down as someone

1064
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 8: that I would say would finish higher in the cy

1065
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 8: Young voting, I'm going to go with Hunter Green just

1066
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 8: because I think his ceiling is a little bit higher

1067
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 8: than Andrew Abbots. And if you're going to try to

1068
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 8: chase down Yamamoto and Paul Skiings and whatever National League

1069
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 8: pitcher it jumps out of nowhere this year it has

1070
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 8: a monster year, you're gonna have to have a pretty

1071
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 8: high ceiling.

1072
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 13: And I like Hunters a little bit higher than Andrews.

1073
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 4: Switching over to football for a minute here, Joe, what

1074
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 4: did you think of the Super Bowl And are there

1075
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 4: any lessons that the Bengals can take from those two

1076
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 4: teams in the way that that game played out with

1077
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 4: them to next year?

1078
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 13: Man, I love watching good defense.

1079
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 8: I know it's kind of lost in twenty twenty six

1080
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 8: in the era of fantasy football and player prop parlays

1081
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 8: that people want offense and they want players to score

1082
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 8: touchdowns and make big plays and get yards.

1083
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Speaker 13: I love that stuff too, But.

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Speaker 8: Watching high functioning, aggressive, shut down defense, to me, it's

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Speaker 8: still it's still awesome. I don't know if that's like

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Speaker 8: a Midwest thing. I don't know that's because I grew

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00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 8: up watching Big ten football, but that stuff still.

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Speaker 13: Really excites me.

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Speaker 8: And I said before the game about the pass that

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Speaker 8: I thought that each team could take to win. And

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Speaker 8: when you line up with a defense that's good and

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Speaker 8: a running game is good. At Seattle's is with Kenneth

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00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 8: Walker that you show up almost bulletproof outside of your

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Speaker 8: quarterback just throwing the game away. And Sam Darnold did

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Speaker 8: not do that, and that's why Seattle won the way

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Speaker 8: they did, and I think the lesson that anybody Bengal

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Speaker 8: was included now have to look at is and we've

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Speaker 8: talked about this too, the idea of, oh, the Bengals

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Speaker 8: defense just needs to get the league average enough of

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Speaker 8: that that that has to go away, that that doesn't

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Speaker 8: win championships in the NFL.

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Speaker 13: And certainly you could say, okay, if you.

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Speaker 8: Pair the Bengals elite the offense, which with a good defense,

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Speaker 8: then you're cooking a little bit. Then you're getting into

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Speaker 8: the playoffs and you're winning playoff games. But if you

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Speaker 8: go look at the stats and the numbers, the last

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Speaker 8: three years, the last three Super Bowl winners Seattle, Philadelphia,

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Speaker 8: Kansas City all had top five defenses. So you better

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Speaker 8: show up the Super Bowl Sunday if you're going to win.

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Speaker 13: That game with an elite defense.

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Speaker 8: And that's the urgency now for the Bengals to get

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Speaker 8: this thing figured out in the offseason of going out

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Speaker 8: and finding guys in free agency who can take this

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Speaker 8: defense from bad to they better be good next year

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Speaker 8: otherwise they're not going to be playing for titles. Because

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Speaker 8: what is it you want in the Joe Burrow window

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Speaker 8: is if you go to just an average defense. Okay,

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Speaker 8: you're in the playoffs, but that's not the Joe Burrow window.

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Speaker 13: The Joe Burrow Jamar K. T.

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Speaker 8: Higgins window is winning super Bowls. And if you want

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Speaker 8: to win a super Bowl, you better get good to

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Speaker 8: really good on defense, otherwise you're not going to have

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Speaker 8: a chance to win the super Bowl the way Seattle.

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Speaker 3: Did you know, Joe? I think it's interesting and I've

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Speaker 3: seen this point a couple different times. We were in

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Speaker 3: an era, in a moment where everyone talks about quarterback

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Speaker 3: play and skill players and wide receivers, and I feel like,

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Speaker 3: to your point, after every super Bowl here recently, what

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Speaker 3: are we talking about the trenches? Go back to last

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Speaker 3: year Philly dominated the Kansas City Chiefs in the trenches,

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Speaker 3: made Patrick Mahomes so uncomfortable. What did the Seattle Seahawks do?

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Speaker 3: They dominated in the trenches, they brought pressure from the secondary,

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Speaker 3: they created confusion every offseason. I feel like it's the

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Speaker 3: same script. We get so caught up in the sexiness

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Speaker 3: of the skill players. Right, you got to have the

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Speaker 3: wide receivers, you got to have the dbs, the quarterbacks,

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Speaker 3: the running backs, and then after the Super Bowl, all

1138
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Speaker 3: we're left talking about, is the trenches the trenches, the trenches?

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Speaker 3: Does that change at all how you approach the offseason,

1140
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Speaker 3: not just an edge rusher, but at that defensive tackle

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Speaker 3: position as well.

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Speaker 13: It's not just the trenches.

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Speaker 8: That's coaching too, And I think that's important because when

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Speaker 8: you start talking about quarterback play and wide receiver play, yeah,

1145
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 8: that's the stuff that gets attention about, But it's trenches

1146
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 8: and it's the coaches and what Mike McDonald did and

1147
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:25,919
Speaker 8: Mike Brabels to an extent of getting his team there.

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01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 8: The coaches matter in the NFL, and it's not just

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Speaker 8: the NFL. You go back and look at what happened

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Speaker 8: in the college football playoffs and you can to your example,

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01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 8: we look at what Ohio State has. They have a

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Speaker 8: Hypen Trophy finalist quarterback, they have two of the best

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Speaker 8: wide receivers in the country, and Miami won that game

1154
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Speaker 8: in the trenches with their offensive line and the defensive line.

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Speaker 8: It's still the ultimate equalizer in football. If you win upfront,

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01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 8: you win football games. If you win upfront in a

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Speaker 8: dominant fashion, you can win championships. That's trenches, that's coaching.

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Speaker 8: And to the point about the Bengals, and meeting someone

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Speaker 8: on the edge or interior. They need guys who get

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Speaker 8: to the quarterback, whether it's from the edge, whether it's

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Speaker 8: from the interior, or whether it's both. They have to

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Speaker 8: find guys who affect the quarterback. That is how you

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01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 8: win games in the NFL, especially once you get to

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Speaker 8: the playoffs. It's how you.

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Speaker 13: Beat other elite teams.

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Speaker 8: That's the ultimate equalizer.

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Speaker 13: If you can't show up and have a team that

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Speaker 13: can win in the trenches. And at this point, the Bengals.

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Speaker 8: Offensive line is as healthy as it's been in the

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Speaker 8: Joe Burrow era. Zach Taylor and Joe Burrow have said

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Speaker 8: it multiple times this year. This is the best offensive

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Speaker 8: line they've had since they've had Joe Burrow. So while

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Speaker 8: it's not perfect, it's there, it's built, it's ready to win.

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Speaker 8: Now the defensive line has to come along with it.

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Speaker 8: Whether that pressure is coming from the edge, the middle,

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Speaker 8: or both. The Bengals have to find people that affect

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Speaker 8: the quarterback if they want to play at the level

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Speaker 8: we saw see out of play at Super Bowl Sunday.

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Speaker 3: We do a lot of mind drafting during the offseason,

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Speaker 3: and I've seen a couple of different ones including one

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Speaker 3: from Lanzerloin yesterday, where the Bengals take offensive line at

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Speaker 3: number ten. Is there a path where you're open to

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Speaker 3: that of sureing up the online, whether that's a tackle,

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Speaker 3: whether that's having someone move to guard, or are you

1185
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 3: convinced that based on the conversations we've had that it's

1186
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Speaker 3: got to be the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it has to be defense. Now, I'll always lean

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Speaker 8: on your draft players, not positions. But there's a reason

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Speaker 8: Duke Covin came down and talked to media for more

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Speaker 8: than an hour. It's there's an urgency about this thing

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Speaker 8: from top to bottom, and picking a tackle would be

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Speaker 8: a luxury at this point, a move looking forward for

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Speaker 8: the future for the Bengals, and you can't and if

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Speaker 8: you can't ignore the future.

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Speaker 13: But I just watched the.

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Speaker 8: Golden State Warriors completely butcher a two timeline plan, and

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Speaker 8: drafting an offensive tackle, to me kind of feels like

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Speaker 8: an idea a team that would be in a two

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Speaker 8: timeline plan, that Okay, Orlando Brown's getting near the end

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Speaker 8: of his time in Cincinnati, that this guy would be

1201
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 8: the guy to pair with the Marius Mims when you

1202
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Speaker 8: have so many holes in a five alarm fire on defense.

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Speaker 8: When you need to find difference makers anywhere you can,

1204
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 8: free agency, trade, draft, you've got to find them. You've

1205
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Speaker 8: got to take swings. So there needs to be one timeline.

1206
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Speaker 8: The timeline is fix this thing as fast as possible

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Speaker 8: so our quarterback doesn't get in front of a microphone

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Speaker 8: at week six, week seven next year as this team

1209
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 8: has a losing record and he starts to say what

1210
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Speaker 8: you don't want him to say about leaving Cincinnati Andrew

1211
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Speaker 8: lucking this thing. We don't think that's going to happen,

1212
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Speaker 8: None of us do. But if there's another bad year,

1213
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Speaker 8: aren't we at least a little bit worried about Joe

1214
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Speaker 8: Burrow and his thoughts of staying in Cincinnati. The one

1215
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Speaker 8: timeline is important, and the one timeline lines up with

1216
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 8: this team. Finding defensive difference makes is any way possible.

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Speaker 8: And you can't take an asset like the number ten

1218
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Speaker 8: overall pick and not use it on defense. You just can't,

1219
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 8: and you can't convince the fan base that's the right move.

1220
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Speaker 8: So to me, the idea of offensive tackle. While I

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Speaker 8: always say draft players, not positions, in this case it

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Speaker 8: has to be defense.

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Speaker 3: Joe Daniman, Fox nineteen. You guys were in a got

1224
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 3: a treat with Lakota West Princeton at the Sintas Center.

1225
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 3: That was an instant classic. I know you guys got

1226
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Speaker 3: everything going on with the final quarter heading out the

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Speaker 3: goodyear as well for spring training? What's coming up on

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Speaker 3: Fox nineteen?

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Speaker 8: Lead for Spring Training on Sunday, Jeremy Rowland, myself or

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Speaker 8: Live Monday, Tuesday coverage Wednesday and new this year eight

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Speaker 8: o'clock Monday and Tuesday Live streaming Red Special on all

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Speaker 8: of Fox nineteen now saming platforms. You'll see some of

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Speaker 8: our best interviews, some of the great video of spring

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Speaker 8: training are observations. We might eat, even sprinkle in some

1235
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 8: Charlie Goldsmith. Oh well, streaming shows Monday Tuesday, eight o'clock

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Speaker 8: Live from Red Spring Training.

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Speaker 4: Just a sprinkle of gold.

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Speaker 13: Wow, Grip, grip.

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Speaker 3: That's it you. Joe Daniman, you're the man. We'll talk

1240
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Speaker 3: to you soon. Joe Daniman, Fox nineteen, You didn't even

1241
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Speaker 3: plan that.

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Speaker 12: Nope.

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Speaker 3: Talkbacks next ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 5: Singles like ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, It's.

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Speaker 15: That time for talkbacks, press the microphone and record your

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Speaker 15: message for Austin in tone, please keep it clean and

1247
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Speaker 15: don't be mean, and a sprinkle, sprinkle, drip drip.

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Speaker 3: It's that time for talkbacks.

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Speaker 15: It's our favorite parter since three sixty So Austin buddy,

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Speaker 15: play those talkbacks on your screen and please drive not

1251
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Speaker 15: to saber.

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Speaker 3: All right, here we go, welcome back sincey three to

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Speaker 3: sixty hour number two, your time for talkbacks. If if

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Speaker 3: you're unfamiliar, if you're not done so yet, iHeartRadio app,

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Speaker 3: hit the microphone button and you can be a part

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Speaker 3: of our talkbacks.

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Speaker 16: The super Bowl is over. I feeling kind of blue. Yeah,

1258
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 16: football season's done. I'm not sure what I'll do. Guess

1259
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 16: I'll watch curling. Big you're skating too, And I don't

1260
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 16: remember the capital of Maine.

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01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 3: It's a Gusta.

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Speaker 17: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: Hey, there's my neighbor, Linda.

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Speaker 8: I need a Knocktor, Lindo.

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Speaker 18: Thank you, Hey, Austin, Hey Tony, Tony flevelin here. I

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Speaker 18: just want to say that I hope the Bengals learned

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Speaker 18: a lot of this season, and I hope they don't

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01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 18: mess up the draft this year, because this could have

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Speaker 18: been the Bengals Super Bowl. Also in a side note,

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Speaker 18: I'm not sure if you guys are familiar with whatnot,

1271
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Speaker 18: but I was on there trying to buy some NFL

1272
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Speaker 18: cards and guess whose card was pulled at a pack

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Speaker 18: Tony Pike.

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Speaker 3: Wow?

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Speaker 13: Is relevant in the card world?

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01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 3: Tony about that. I'm sure that thing went for big

1277
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Speaker 3: money too in the card world.

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Speaker 4: Did you happen to see my tweet to Luke Colmbs yesterday?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 4: So, Luke Colmbs, the Grammy Award winning country music superstar,

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01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 4: has gotten the bug for trading cards. Oh and he's

1282
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Speaker 4: been kind of to everyone's getting the tweeting with people

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Speaker 4: about it, and said he went to Walgreens and bought

1284
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Speaker 4: a box of cards and all this other stuff. And

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Speaker 4: I told him he said, you know, I'm not trying

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Speaker 4: to spend a bunch of money, or He's like, I'm

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Speaker 4: not trying to make money. I just seeing what I get.

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Speaker 4: And obviously he's a huge Panthers fan and wouldn't mind

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Speaker 4: having a killer lineup of my faves from back in

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Speaker 4: the day until now. And IF weeted back at Luke

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Speaker 4: and said, I have a handful of Tony Pike rookieato's

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Speaker 4: from his Panthers days, but I'm not sure he could

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Speaker 4: afford them. You didn't respond, nobody said anything. I was

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Speaker 4: hoping somebody would see that, unbelievable thought that was a

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Speaker 4: pretty funny boast.

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01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I wonder maybe maybe Luke was a fan

1297
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 3: back in the day. I doubt it.

1298
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 19: Fellows. These draft gurus with these mocks are just rage baitings.

1299
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 3: I've seen like three now saying.

1300
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 19: The Bengals were going to pass on Kalo downs they cut.

1301
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 19: It's the Bengals who knows what they do.

1302
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 3: This is gonna be bad.

1303
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 20: I mean, this is gonna be aftabab were going to

1304
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 20: be in a uproar and.

1305
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,959
Speaker 3: To piggyback on former talk by President Ronald Reagan.

1306
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 10: I too, mag Manby would be at schi Shutch and

1307
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 10: Fort Mitchell dish shatity from two to three.

1308
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 3: But my good friend Kyle, all right, man, let's good.

1309
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 16: I'm home.

1310
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 3: Glad. We're gonna get some people at the Cincy shirts.

1311
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 19: Shout out to Mike Famili for getting to go to

1312
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:05,799
Speaker 19: the super Bowl. It's nice when the organizations help out veterans.

1313
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 19: For my part, I've been chosen to go on an

1314
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 19: honor flight on May the night where they were gonna

1315
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 19: They're gonna fly me and a bunch of veterans to Washington,

1316
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 19: d C. To see a bunch of monuments. By the way,

1317
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 19: my knee surgery is scheduled for this Friday, the thirteenth.

1318
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 19: I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little bit stitious.

1319
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 3: Ken Man back to back days, a little stitious, and

1320
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 3: then the Ken Corleone yesterday.

1321
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,679
Speaker 4: The thing about Ken is like there are no boring

1322
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 4: days for Ken. No, there's always something going on, might

1323
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:39,600
Speaker 4: be getting his knee cut into, or his hip or

1324
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 4: whatever it might be. Then he's gonna go on a

1325
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 4: flight in May. Those honor flights are really cool.

1326
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 10: Hey, guys, Marcus from the Groove.

1327
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 17: Even though we are forty four Cody Reid days away

1328
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 17: from opening day, we are also five days away from

1329
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 17: Daytona five hundred, that's right.

1330
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 20: So I'm wondering, are you guys.

1331
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 10: Going to try and get Seg on the show sometime

1332
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 10: this week?

1333
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 4: I mean I brought up this idea to Tony earlier

1334
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 4: this week and Tony didn't seem all that interested.

1335
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 3: So well, Seg has been spending a lot of time

1336
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 3: in the studio. It comes in for you know, minutes

1337
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 3: here minutes there, and it just hasn't been brought up

1338
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 3: in conversation. I thought, I thank yesterday. I thought he

1339
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:24,639
Speaker 3: would have brought it up yesterday.

1340
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 4: I think that's why he's been stopping by so much.

1341
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 3: He knows what comes.

1342
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 4: He knows the Great American Race is coming up. That's

1343
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 4: fair and so you gotta that would be my assumption.

1344
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 4: Cuts trying to weasel his way into the show.

1345
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 20: I gotta start bench cut AFC teams that will make

1346
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 20: the Super Bowl next year, the Bengals, the Patriots, the Broncos.

1347
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 3: Bengals make it. They start.

1348
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 4: Denver is benched, and I cut the pain. I'll start

1349
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 4: Denver'll buses the Bengals. I'll cut the page.

1350
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 3: Sean Payton has lost that team.

1351
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 11: Wild and crazy land here fifty six ball me fifty

1352
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 11: six degrees.

1353
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, feeling good, Hey, guys.

1354
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:16,919
Speaker 8: I can hardly wait for the curling.

1355
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 3: I have never been into curling, and I.

1356
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 11: Have just so enjoyed watching these matches with the United

1357
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 11: States the mixed doubles. Oh my gosh, can hardly wait

1358
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 11: for the final match tonight, go USA and go USA

1359
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 11: hockey women.

1360
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 3: Okay, so nervous right now watching this in the studio

1361
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 3: like I need to turn there. Well, they're in the

1362
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 3: last leg. USA's got a one point lead, but they

1363
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 3: don't have the hammer. Sweden has the hammer. So if

1364
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 3: you're USA, you're trying to only give up one here

1365
01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 3: and take this thing to overtime. I'm nervous.

1366
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 8: WHOA, get some cold cuts, Get some cold cuts, Get

1367
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 8: some cold cuts.

1368
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 3: Very good.

1369
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 7: Hello, this is former President Ronald Reagan, and we all

1370
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 7: consider it a presidential dunking booth this Saturday at the

1371
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 7: Fort Mitchell Sincy Shirts from two to three pm. You see,

1372
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 7: if at least ten listeners show up and buy a shirt,

1373
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 7: I will buy and wear an FC Cincinnati shirt. And

1374
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 7: you all know how much I like soccer, So come

1375
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 7: on out, buy a shirt and dunk me in the

1376
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 7: orange and blue this Saturday, from two to three at

1377
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 7: the Fort Mitchell Sinsey Shirts location.

1378
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 3: What would getting former president ragging into us into an

1379
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 3: FC Cincinnati shirt be the equivalent of it's a good question,

1380
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:46,640
Speaker 3: Griffy signing here?

1381
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:52,719
Speaker 4: No, No, not maybe not quite that. Actually yeah, maybe

1382
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 4: it would be. I have a FC Cincinnati related question.

1383
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 4: Oh for Tony Pike in our next segment, and I

1384
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 4: think we'll learn a lot about Tony.

1385
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 21: Greg Sharonville, Hey, Tony, as bad as I've been feeling

1386
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 21: about my barricats, I'll tell you that great wind Sunday

1387
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:16,600
Speaker 21: in nice weather, I'm feeling.

1388
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:19,560
Speaker 3: A whole heck of a lot better. I'm back on

1389
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 3: the vandwagon. Yeah, you guys have a disease.

1390
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 22: Back man, Hecky now flipping the city out here in

1391
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 22: sunny Zona.

1392
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 3: What I'm Tony? Nah, we ain't doing that noise.

1393
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 22: We're gonna deal with the strikeout with swallow Red So

1394
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 22: front office of the Reds. Hear me out, you guys

1395
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:38,719
Speaker 22: where you want is right now? Show us and Prosido

1396
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:39,759
Speaker 22: trying to win this division.

1397
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 3: Real talk. Do not do that type of move Yo.

1398
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 22: The super Bowl logo theory, Yeah, I know everybody talking

1399
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 22: that talk, But man, I can't help but think about

1400
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 22: all that orange up in there, Cincinnati, Philadelphia, Cincinnati, Seattle, Cincinnati,

1401
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 22: Green Bay.

1402
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 3: Something's going on. Let's think about this for a second.

1403
01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 10: If we're so concerned about Hunter Green trying to get

1404
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 10: through a old season healthy and we have a battle

1405
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 10: at our fifth man for the rotation between what Rhet

1406
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 10: Louder and Chase Burns, who's to say we can't roll

1407
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 10: with a six man rotation.

1408
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 3: Okay, keep these.

1409
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 10: Guys a little healthier throughout the whole entire season. And

1410
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 10: if it doesn't work, then fine, go back to a

1411
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 10: five man rotation. But wouldn't that be worth trying. I mean,

1412
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 10: it couldn't hurt.

1413
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 4: I guess I might as well take a seven man rotation.

1414
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 4: Write that down. Well, ask Charlie about that seven man

1415
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 4: six Okay, mister Matthews, doesn't appear that your talk back

1416
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 4: audio was on.

1417
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 22: Sorry, man, I definitely had to let these foods out

1418
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 22: here know it. Yeah, I saw what happened last night.

1419
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 22: Zonna took a lost last night they first led the season.

1420
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 3: I come to work this.

1421
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 22: Morning, I had a little chuck of little Grandama's face

1422
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:48,719
Speaker 22: and said, there's only one unbeaten team in the country,

1423
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 22: and they live and they reside in Ohio. Matter of fact,

1424
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:53,640
Speaker 22: in my neighborhood. Actually, it said who, I said, the

1425
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:56,759
Speaker 22: Miami Red howks? They said, who the Miami Red Howks?

1426
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 22: I said, google them facts.

1427
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 3: A little something. I had to get old something.

1428
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 13: Yo.

1429
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 22: Miami carry flat for the city represent iright, do your

1430
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 22: thang up there in sunny Houzona carrying the flag?

1431
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 12: She bang, she bang?

1432
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:15,600
Speaker 23: It is I Ricky Martin Sincy shirts and since he

1433
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 23: shirts dot com on Valentine's Day, since he shirts, they

1434
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:23,440
Speaker 23: put the O in Ohio, they put the scene in Cincinnati,

1435
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 23: they put the love in Loveland, and you know, they

1436
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:28,440
Speaker 23: put the milk in Milford.

1437
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 3: So don't forget.

1438
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 23: Since he shirts, and since he shirts dot com for

1439
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:34,440
Speaker 23: Valentine's Day, and they formed.

1440
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,839
Speaker 4: You know it, she bang bang.

1441
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:42,759
Speaker 3: Ricky Martin fresh off the super Bowl performance. That's impressed.

1442
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 9: Now.

1443
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 4: I had no idea who Ricky Martin was. Like, my

1444
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 4: friends were at or watching the super Bowl and the

1445
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 4: halftime show and they were like, that's Ricky Martin, and

1446
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 4: I was like, who.

1447
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:54,799
Speaker 3: Living the vita loca.

1448
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 4: I had never heard of that person in my life.

1449
01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 4: I knew who Lady Gaga was, I knew who Bad

1450
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 4: Bummy Buddy was. I recognized Jessica Alba very quickly, but

1451
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 4: I had never heard of Ricky Martin.

1452
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 3: You were like that meme of Leonardo DiCaprio sitting up

1453
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 3: in the recliner.

1454
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 16: Yeah.

1455
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 3: I was so excited.

1456
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 4: I said Scarlett Johansson first, and I'm like, no, no,

1457
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 4: Jessica Alba, this is DJ.

1458
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 12: Thank you.

1459
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 24: Joe Daniman for stating the obvious and keep saying it

1460
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 24: that the Bengals need a top five defense. I said yesterday,

1461
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 24: top ten, top five. If you want to win a

1462
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 24: super Bowl, and in Cincinnati, we gotta start aiming higher

1463
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 24: than just getting to playoffs. Top five defense, last three

1464
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 24: winners of super Bowls, that's where they need to shoot.

1465
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 4: We've got the offense to do it.

1466
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 3: Let's go top ten. I'm good with he'p take top ten.

1467
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 13: Bench start, cut a Kieley Smith, David Klinger, Jake Brownie.

1468
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:58,759
Speaker 4: I'll start Jake brown I'll start Achille. I'm gonna bench Aquille.

1469
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 3: I'll bench, I'll cut David Clinton, all bench Browning, and

1470
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:07,839
Speaker 3: cut Klingler. I'm not gonna have Achille slander.

1471
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 4: I didn't think that was I like Achille, but I

1472
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 4: ain't gonna start him.

1473
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 22: What's up Toning, Austin's Joe and Baltimore.

1474
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 13: I'll just leave it.

1475
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 8: Talk back to say man. I'm glad it's fifty degrees

1476
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 8: over here today. Last couple weeks in the twenties.

1477
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 13: Whack who day.

1478
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 3: I'm telling you right now, the weather today, based on

1479
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 3: what we've had for weeks, it feels like it's eighty

1480
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:33,799
Speaker 3: degrees outside.

1481
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 4: I haven't had a chance to get outside my store

1482
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:40,560
Speaker 4: and actually look outside the windows, but it's beautiful.

1483
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 3: Austin.

1484
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 4: I don't know if you're familiar, but Dan Patrick always

1485
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 4: calls Lady Gaga, Lady Gaga.

1486
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 7: I guess an arena announcer did that one time.

1487
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 4: That was funny.

1488
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:51,759
Speaker 3: That's funny, Lady Gaga.

1489
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 4: I've not heard that. But the whole carl Ma line

1490
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 4: at the Loans shooting too, that's a derivative of a

1491
01:18:57,280 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 4: Dan Patrick thing. So, uh, let's right up my alley,

1492
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 4: Lady Gaga, go.

1493
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 8: L Yeah, let's go.

1494
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 3: Is that a wrestling thing? Did he say mock?

1495
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 25: Yeah?

1496
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 4: No, he said, hey, tone, l A Night, Let's go.

1497
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, l A Knight. He's a Maga star.

1498
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 4: But why did he leave that talk back?

1499
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:26,760
Speaker 3: I don't know. Something going on? Well, l A Knight

1500
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 3: iss uh he he punched his ticket, bring in here

1501
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 3: and asking Rick he'll he'll throw something else and doesn't

1502
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 3: even come to I will say l A Knight because

1503
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:41,600
Speaker 3: he punched his ticket the elimination chamber last night. That

1504
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 3: sounds awful. Thanks to the mask man. Whatever that is?

1505
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 4: Okay, that was our last one was very very brief.

1506
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 3: Awesome. I gotta say things look bleak right now in

1507
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:54,720
Speaker 3: the mixed doubles curling final. You're not allowed to use

1508
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 3: past I'm not things aren't looking good based on previous

1509
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 3: you just said right now, based on previous rocks that

1510
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 3: the Americans have thrown, things aren't looking great. By the way,

1511
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 3: now's a great time to remind everybody that you know,

1512
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Speaker 3: we're an official partner with NBC and the Olympics. So

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01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 3: you're darn right and you can get all sorts of

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01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 3: Olympic coverage via the iHeartRadio app and iHeart platforms all

1515
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 3: across the Winter Olympics. Yeah.

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01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 4: So, I uh, it's NBC's coverage of the twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: six Winter Olympic Games on the iHeart Radio App.

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01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 3: I've got serious fomo kicking in right now. My brother

1519
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 3: just sent a text outside of the Hockey Arena getting

1520
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 3: ready to walk in for USA and Canada. That'll be

1521
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 3: pretty lit. That is awesome.

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01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, shout out to him. I'm sure he's listening while

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01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 4: he's there. Shout out to which brother is a Douglas.

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01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 4: Shout out to Douglas. Yep, who if is Doug's the

1525
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 4: one with the hot hand with the Yeah, Doug's pulling

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01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 4: some banger cards cards at the moment, so shout out

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01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:01,600
Speaker 4: if you know.

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01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 3: Anything about cards. Doug stopped. He came over for the

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01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 3: Super Bowl on Sunday and he stopped over at the

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01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 3: Halle and on the way he stopped and uh and

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01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 3: got some some cards. And if you're familiar with the

1532
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 3: card game at all, he pulled a Lamar Jackson downtown.

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01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:16,759
Speaker 3: It's a nice little pool, it's a nice little Sunday.

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01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 4: So shout out to him. And of course, shout out

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01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 4: to our friends at Procter and Gamble. Shout yeah, any

1536
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 4: other shout out you want today, just let us know.

1537
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:25,679
Speaker 4: You know, but there's happening.

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01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 3: You may have heard.

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01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 4: We've we've been running these spots for for Procter and Gamble.

1540
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 4: And if there's someone there that you would like for

1541
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 4: us to shout out, you'd leave a talk back. You

1542
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:37,560
Speaker 4: could uh text five to one eight eight one with

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01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 4: their name. I got somebody at P ANDNG I'd like

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01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 4: to shout out. Yeah, shout out to my cousin Greg,

1545
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 4: very nice Greg elmore over there at PNG.

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01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 3: I can say this now because it's become official in

1547
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 3: the past, Team USA will walk home with the silver.

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01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 3: They're all walk home.

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01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 4: They should after after that performance in the eighth, they

1550
01:21:57,760 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 4: should walk home. We when we come back, I have

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01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:02,240
Speaker 4: a question for Tony. Okay, and it has to do

1552
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 4: with FC Cincinnati.

1553
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 12: Next on ESPN fifteen thirty, there is an affordability crisis with.

1554
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 2: The world is watching and the chase for the gold

1555
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 2: is underway.

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01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 1: Stay locked into ESPN fifteen thirty for the latest Olympic updates.

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01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:35,879
Speaker 3: Welcome back Sincy three to sixty ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati

1558
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 3: Sports Station. We've got college hoops to discuss. You'll hear

1559
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 3: Scott Saderfield and our number three. We'll talk with Mowai.

1560
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:43,599
Speaker 3: We still got a few minutes here in our number two.

1561
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 3: What do we got Austin well Tony.

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01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 4: As you know, the MLS season kicks off on February

1563
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,759
Speaker 4: twenty first, we're gonna try to get our guy Tommy

1564
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:55,640
Speaker 4: g back on the horn with us on Friday. But

1565
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 4: Adidas and Major League are unveiling the twenty twenty six

1566
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 4: kits for every single team coming up this week.

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01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 3: Okay.

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01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 4: FC Cincinnatis is going to be revealed tomorrow. And if

1569
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 4: you don't know, every year in Major League soccer, every

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01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 4: team gets a new uniform, and this year's uniform for

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01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 4: FC Cincinnati will be called the Seven Hills kit, which,

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01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 4: of course Cincinnati's.

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01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 3: Seven Hills of Cincinnati.

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01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 4: Yes, can you name them?

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01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 9: Oh?

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01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 4: Gosh, no, that's my question for you.

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01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:31,800
Speaker 3: Are you kidding?

1578
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 4: How many of the seven Hills of Cincinnati can you name?

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01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? Probably? I don't know.

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01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 4: So there's those Mount Adams. There's the original seven, like

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01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 4: the eighteen fifties to the eighteen hundreds, and then there's

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01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 4: other ones that people count as well. If you can

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01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 4: get seven of the ten to eleven total, yeah, I'll

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01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:58,640
Speaker 4: give you credit. Mount Adams, that's correct, that's one. Uh,

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01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 4: the only mount I know would be Mount Auburn. Mount

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01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 4: Auburn is correct. That's two. Okay, you got any more?

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01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 4: Walnut Hills? Walnut Hills, that's number three. And then of

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01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 4: course College Hill. College Hill does count?

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01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 3: I have no other ones?

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01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:18,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's way better than I think. I can't think

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01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 4: of any other. There's one that's you know, leads up

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01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 4: to Clifton. You know what, that's called the Vine Street Hill.

1593
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:30,559
Speaker 3: Okay, I actually that was the name of the hill.

1594
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 4: Vine Street Hill. What about Fair Mount.

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01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 3: Never would have got that. I should have got Vine Street.

1596
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 4: That's that's yeah. Fair Mounts are tough. I should have

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01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 4: got Vine Street, College Hill on Mount Harrison, which is

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01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:48,680
Speaker 4: now considered Price Hill, wouldn't have got that. Now did

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01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:52,760
Speaker 4: you know that that's technically the largest one? What about

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01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:57,560
Speaker 4: Mount Airy? Mount Airy is not on this list? The

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01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 4: other as they describe them, Notable Hills, Mount Lookout, Oh,

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01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 4: that would have been one of my first guess. Yeah,

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01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 4: Mount Echo, I've never heard of that. Go Clifton Heights, Yeah,

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01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 4: Mount Washington.

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01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 3: I should have got Mount Washington. Yeah. Okay, So the

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01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 3: the originals, I didn't embarrass myself with four.

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01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:22,680
Speaker 4: The original seven according again this is just based off

1608
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 4: of a Google search, is the eighteen fifties to eighteen eighties.

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01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 4: Around that time, Mount Adams, Mount Auburn, Walnut Hills, Vine Street, Hill,

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01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 4: College Hill, Fairmount, and Mount Harrison now Price. So okay,

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01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 4: so there you go. If the leaks that I saw

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01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 4: of these potential.

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01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:44,559
Speaker 3: All or these leaked like the Bengals ones were leaked.

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01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 4: Are if those are the real ones, I think they're

1615
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 4: pretty sick. Now I'm looking up she since not a

1616
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 4: uniform leaks. Okay, they're pretty sick. Maybe Tommy G can

1617
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 4: help us with these. See if we could just think

1618
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 4: we can beg for new kid every year, just like

1619
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 4: everybody else. I don't think there's anything wrong with that,

1620
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:08,599
Speaker 4: and I don't think there is either updated medal count

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01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 4: from the Olympics. Do we want to do that when

1622
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 4: we come back.

1623
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't know we were taking another break here. Yeah,

1624
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 3: we'll take another We'll take a break and then we'll

1625
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 3: update the Olympic medal count before we get down number

1626
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,759
Speaker 3: three on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: Sony Pike, Sincy three sixty continues now on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:48,599
Speaker 3: Welcome back since e three sixty. That is the sound

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01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 3: of the Olympic Games, and we have your updated Olympic

1630
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 3: Medal tracker leading the way by a wide margin right

1631
01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 3: now as it pertains to gold medals. Norway six gold

1632
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 3: medals and eleven total medals. In the early stages of

1633
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 3: the Olympics, Italy, the host nation, tied at eleven, although

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01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 3: they only have two gold medals seven bronze medals. Japan

1635
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 3: is in third with seven. Germany was six. That is

1636
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:20,759
Speaker 3: tied with the United States of America two gold, two silver,

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01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 3: and two bronze thus far at the Milan Olympics.

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01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:29,639
Speaker 4: Norway you mentioned the sixth gold, Germany next with three

1639
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:34,679
Speaker 4: Switzersland also has three, and several countries, including the United

1640
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:35,639
Speaker 4: States with just two.

1641
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, gold medals. US women hockey getting ready to start

1642
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 3: in the next fifteen minutes. Their match against Canada is

1643
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:49,839
Speaker 3: next to get underway in the Olympics.

1644
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 4: Now you said that you accused me earlier of not

1645
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 4: being patriotic.

1646
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 3: I just said, are you patriotic? Because yesterday when I

1647
01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 3: was giving updates, it seemed like you didn't really care

1648
01:27:59,400 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 3: about the update.

1649
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:03,600
Speaker 4: But now you know, hearing this music that starts to

1650
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 4: get like the blood starts to flow.

1651
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:10,680
Speaker 3: A little bit, and this whole USA Yeah, yeah, it's

1652
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 3: time to go. You have a rivalry with Canada, like

1653
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 3: I think hockey wise, Yes, I think we do. It

1654
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:19,960
Speaker 3: was a Nation's Cup they did fa Yeah.

1655
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 4: And of course now we're kind of running it back

1656
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 4: because all the NHL guys are going yep. So I'm

1657
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:28,200
Speaker 4: excited about that. That was some electric stuff.

1658
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:32,679
Speaker 3: You could tell when when like the the professionals start

1659
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 3: getting into it. Like we've talked about flag football in

1660
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 3: the summer games that the NBA obviously what they do

1661
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 3: with basketball and three on three. Now, why this whole,

1662
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:45,639
Speaker 3: this whole hockey thing is picking up between USA and Canada.

1663
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 4: Why is basketball not an Olympic sport or not a

1664
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 4: winter Olympic sport.

1665
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe because, like uh, Jim asked yesterday

1666
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 3: and talkbacks, everything's got to be played in the snow. Rice.

1667
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 4: Well, I guess that's a good point. Maybe that would

1668
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 4: that would be fun.

1669
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 3: Maybe that's what's happening. Play it in the on the ice.

1670
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 3: That could be fun. I don't think you'll get many, uh,

1671
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:10,680
Speaker 3: I think you'll get many NBA guys to show up

1672
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:10,800
Speaker 3: for that.

1673
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 4: We give them those shoes that the curlers wear. Oh,

1674
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:15,639
Speaker 4: it's true, little grippy sock type action.

1675
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you imagine trying to guard, to pick and roll,

1676
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 3: oh man, just lining across that.

1677
01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 4: It'd be kind of keeping your dribble. Yeah, it'd be

1678
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 4: real careful landing after you dunk a ball. Anyways, Baseball

1679
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 4: update really quick. Justin Verlander has found a home. Do

1680
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 4: you want to take a guess where the veteran right

1681
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:40,560
Speaker 4: hander is signing. American League, National League, American League Verlander

1682
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 4: in the American League. Surely not the Yankees. No, Detroit, Yes, wow.

1683
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 4: Justin Verland returns to the Detroit Tigers, the team that

1684
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 4: he came up with and took to the World Series

1685
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:01,639
Speaker 4: a couple of times, way back when. You might remember

1686
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 4: it was him and Max Scherzer with the Detroit Tigers

1687
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 4: about fifteen years ago getting them to the World Series.

1688
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 4: Justin Verlander returns to Detroit on a one year, thirteen

1689
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 4: million dollar deal. But here's what's interesting. Eleven million dollars

1690
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 4: of it is deferred starting in twenty thirty.

1691
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:26,800
Speaker 3: Wow. So Verlander making sure he's taken care of he

1692
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 3: really is.

1693
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 4: Later on smart man, you know the Tigers have spent

1694
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:35,280
Speaker 4: a lot of money yep on pitchball, scoop ball, now Vertlander.

1695
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 4: I think that's a cool story. I used to love

1696
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:43,760
Speaker 4: Justin Verlander, his intensity on the mound, competitiveness.

1697
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 3: I'm all for it.

1698
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 4: The Tigers are like my American League team. I think

1699
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:50,800
Speaker 4: they have great uniforms. I obviously love their stadium. I've

1700
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:53,680
Speaker 4: always been a huge fan of Justin Verlander. I'll be

1701
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:55,599
Speaker 4: pulling hard for the gritty Tigers.

1702
01:30:55,680 --> 01:31:00,000
Speaker 3: Okay, let's take a break, Let's get to All America

1703
01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 3: team I do. I like the Tigers, but I found

1704
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 3: myself based on recent I like the Mariners, of course,

1705
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:11,040
Speaker 3: but that was more or less because it was kind

1706
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:12,919
Speaker 3: of like the pipeline for the Reds. And now Suarez

1707
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 3: is back, when maybe I just go Evil Empire and

1708
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 3: go Yankees.

1709
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:20,840
Speaker 4: When are we gonna do the forty four days till

1710
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 4: Opening Days? Is that gonna be an hour three?

1711
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:24,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, we can get that. So we're going to our three.

1712
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:27,120
Speaker 3: We're gonna do hoops. Yeah, we'll hear some Scott Sadderfield.

1713
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:31,400
Speaker 3: We'll get to forty four days and Mulgar Wow. Next

1714
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 3: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Hello, this is

1715
01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 3: Tyler Lang thirty.

1716
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike, Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati.

1717
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:49,160
Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

1718
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:54,759
Speaker 3: Here we go our number three since he three sixty,

1719
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Thanks for joining us,

1720
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 3: Thanks for being a lot for the ride here today

1721
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 3: one hour remaining, we're going to talk little Scott Sidderfield,

1722
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bearcats. We're going to talk some Reds. In

1723
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 3: this hour, we'll talk to Moager. Let's get things started

1724
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:13,719
Speaker 3: with what happened last night on the hardwood. The Xavier

1725
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:16,839
Speaker 3: Musketeers in action. Last night other teams in action, Kansas

1726
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 3: knocked off previously unbeaten Arizona eighty two to seventy eight.

1727
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:24,320
Speaker 3: That leaves Travis Steeles Miami RedHawks as the only remaining

1728
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:28,280
Speaker 3: undefeated team in college basketball. They'll play ou on ESPN

1729
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:32,439
Speaker 3: Friday night at nine o'clock. Louisville in a route over

1730
01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:36,960
Speaker 3: NC State. Mckel Brown junior sets a ACC mark with

1731
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:41,479
Speaker 3: forty five points by a freshman as Louisville rolls over

1732
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:45,599
Speaker 3: NC State and a very good one at Madison Square

1733
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:49,320
Speaker 3: Garden last night, Xavier Saint John's tied at forty two

1734
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:53,840
Speaker 3: at the half. Both of these teams tied at the

1735
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:57,639
Speaker 3: end of regulation at seventy eight, but it was Saint

1736
01:32:57,720 --> 01:33:02,479
Speaker 3: John's outscoring Xavier nine to four in overtime to get

1737
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:09,879
Speaker 3: Rick Patino another Saint John's win over his son, Richard Patino.

1738
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:15,799
Speaker 3: Saint John's has been on a roll, I believe, winners

1739
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 3: of let's see eleven straight games now since a loss

1740
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:23,720
Speaker 3: of Providence. They are tied at the top of the

1741
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:26,400
Speaker 3: Big East standings at twelve and one Xavier falls to

1742
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:31,480
Speaker 3: four and nine. For the game itself, Xavier had an opportunity,

1743
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 3: they had the last possession of the game. Trey Carroll

1744
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:36,600
Speaker 3: kind of waved off the opportunity for a screen. He

1745
01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:39,439
Speaker 3: wanted to go one on one. Saint John's defended it

1746
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:42,439
Speaker 3: really well. Trey Cale ends up throwing up an air ball,

1747
01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 3: and then Trey Carroll is not able to get a

1748
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 3: shot attempt up. In the extra overtime session, they only

1749
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 3: score four. That's one more point than they had players

1750
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:56,120
Speaker 3: foul out in overtime Austin they scored four. They had

1751
01:33:56,240 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 3: three players foul out of the game last night. The

1752
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 3: foul shot, it's significant. Saint John's put up forty one

1753
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:09,760
Speaker 3: free throws. They made twenty eight of them. Xavier put

1754
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:13,320
Speaker 3: up just seventeen free throws. They made nine of them.

1755
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:19,360
Speaker 3: So a very tightly contested game. The foul line seemingly

1756
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:24,439
Speaker 3: was the difference thirty fouls called on Xavier to just

1757
01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:28,519
Speaker 3: fifteen called on Saint John's. You take into account those

1758
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:32,559
Speaker 3: numbers and you wonder man Xavier. Their largest lead was five,

1759
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:35,679
Speaker 3: Saint John's largest lead was five. Saint John's dominated twenty

1760
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:39,200
Speaker 3: seven to six in fast break points neither of these

1761
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 3: teams turned it over much last night. This is Saint

1762
01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:44,719
Speaker 3: John's out rebounded Xavier. When you look at those numbers,

1763
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 3: it's actually insane to think that this game went to

1764
01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:50,080
Speaker 3: overtime with that big of a disparity in so many

1765
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:55,599
Speaker 3: different categories. But another very well played, hard fought game.

1766
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:58,000
Speaker 3: But as we've seen, not just with Xavier but here

1767
01:34:58,040 --> 01:35:00,840
Speaker 3: locally with the Bearcats as well, coming up on the

1768
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:03,439
Speaker 3: wrong side of these close games. It has been an

1769
01:35:03,479 --> 01:35:05,759
Speaker 3: issue far too many times this year for the Xavier

1770
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:11,120
Speaker 3: Musketeers as they fall to twelve and twelve overall, four

1771
01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:12,680
Speaker 3: and nine in the Big East Auston. Do we have

1772
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:15,800
Speaker 3: some Richard Patino after last night's loss on the road

1773
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:16,479
Speaker 3: at Saint John's.

1774
01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:19,599
Speaker 4: We do, and it starts with him talking about Trey

1775
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:20,720
Speaker 4: Carroll at the end of the game.

1776
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, swarming them. His decision making out

1777
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:26,840
Speaker 3: the end wasn't great.

1778
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:29,600
Speaker 26: He was obviously very very good for a lot of it,

1779
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:32,240
Speaker 26: but they were just ramping up the physicality and we

1780
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:36,160
Speaker 26: weren't able to get to the rim. Clearly weren't able

1781
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:38,040
Speaker 26: to get to the free throw line twenty eight of

1782
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:40,439
Speaker 26: forty one for them, nine for seventeen. You know, to

1783
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:42,520
Speaker 26: even be in overtime is pretty remarkable.

1784
01:35:43,160 --> 01:35:45,360
Speaker 4: Can you just go over what you told them in

1785
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:47,479
Speaker 4: the locker room about their effort tonight coming off of

1786
01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:48,960
Speaker 4: what you went through in Hartford.

1787
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:52,559
Speaker 26: Well, we've already moved past Hartford, so you know, again

1788
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 26: I just said we should have won the game.

1789
01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:56,720
Speaker 9: You know, free throw line decided it.

1790
01:35:57,479 --> 01:35:59,800
Speaker 26: I'll go back and watch, you know, not blaming the refs,

1791
01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:02,240
Speaker 26: but that's you know, you have three guys foul out,

1792
01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:04,559
Speaker 26: You had a chance to win it. Proud of the effort.

1793
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:08,479
Speaker 26: They're great kids, really believe in what we're building. We're

1794
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:10,960
Speaker 26: obviously trying to get to the level of Yukon, trying

1795
01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 26: to get to the level of Saint John's. But you

1796
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:18,840
Speaker 26: can't have twenty eight free throws to nine and think

1797
01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 26: you're gonna win the game and we had a chance.

1798
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 3: What do you think you've done so well against them?

1799
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:25,760
Speaker 3: But you've given them real trouble down call games and

1800
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:28,920
Speaker 3: anything specific, especially with our offense, and you think you

1801
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:29,720
Speaker 3: guys have done well.

1802
01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:33,120
Speaker 26: I think our spacing has been pretty good against them

1803
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:37,960
Speaker 26: until the end. Obviously, execution wise wasn't great, but we

1804
01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:39,680
Speaker 26: took care of the basketball I don't remember how many

1805
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:41,920
Speaker 26: turnovers we had at our place, but you have to

1806
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:43,600
Speaker 26: rebound the ball and you have to not turn the

1807
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:44,599
Speaker 26: ball over to beat them.

1808
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:45,400
Speaker 6: And then.

1809
01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:49,639
Speaker 26: The stat line why we've lost was the free throws,

1810
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:51,680
Speaker 26: but we handled the other things pretty well.

1811
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:57,040
Speaker 3: There's Richard Patino after last night's loss in overtime to

1812
01:36:57,120 --> 01:37:00,920
Speaker 3: Saint John's that came after the thirty two point loss

1813
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 3: on the road at Yukon. Xavier now losers of five

1814
01:37:04,120 --> 01:37:06,599
Speaker 3: of their last six. They've lost eight of their last

1815
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 3: eleven in the Big East as well. They turn their

1816
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 3: sites to a Saturday three o'clock start at the Cintas

1817
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 3: Center against Marquette, where they went on the road and

1818
01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:19,799
Speaker 3: that was one of those of many very close losses

1819
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:22,600
Speaker 3: for Xavier. They fell and that one sixty six to

1820
01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:26,240
Speaker 3: sixty five on the road. So looking at an opportunity

1821
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:29,200
Speaker 3: to get themselves back to where they need to be

1822
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:32,559
Speaker 3: for the Xavier Musketeers on Saturday. The rest of their

1823
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:35,160
Speaker 3: Big East slate, they've yet to play Villanova at all

1824
01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:38,599
Speaker 3: this year. Villanova sits at nine and three in third

1825
01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:40,599
Speaker 3: in the Big East. Right now, they have two remaining

1826
01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 3: against Villanova road trips to Butler in Providence. Georgetown and

1827
01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:48,240
Speaker 3: Seaton Hall still come to the Cintas Center, as well

1828
01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:53,240
Speaker 3: other local teams that are going to be an action. Tomorrow.

1829
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:58,000
Speaker 3: The Cincinnati Bearcats head to Kansas State to take on

1830
01:37:58,160 --> 01:38:03,719
Speaker 3: Jerome Tang's Wildcats. I believe that's the only local action tomorrow.

1831
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:08,080
Speaker 3: Miami is off until Friday. Kentucky is off until their

1832
01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:12,120
Speaker 3: game on Saturday on the road at SEC leading Florida.

1833
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:15,320
Speaker 3: So and I don't know all the tome I head.

1834
01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:16,800
Speaker 3: I know it's not tonight, and I know it's not

1835
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:20,200
Speaker 3: tomorrow for the NKU Norse. They're in action at IU

1836
01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:24,600
Speaker 3: Indianapolis on Thursday at six thirty. So a little bit

1837
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:28,320
Speaker 3: of a college basketball flair there. As we get our

1838
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:31,280
Speaker 3: number three started, Let's switch gears for a moment, Austin,

1839
01:38:31,320 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 3: because you mentioned at the end of our number two,

1840
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:38,479
Speaker 3: forty four days away from Cincinnati Reds Opening Day, and

1841
01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:42,240
Speaker 3: we've been counting down this kind of opening day routine

1842
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:44,200
Speaker 3: here with players that have worn the number of the

1843
01:38:44,280 --> 01:38:47,880
Speaker 3: days remaining until opening day, and we still have forty

1844
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:51,719
Speaker 3: four days remaining until opening day. But I don't know, Austin,

1845
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:57,240
Speaker 3: if there will be a better number than the number

1846
01:38:57,280 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 3: today of forty four with former Reds that have worn

1847
01:38:59,320 --> 01:38:59,719
Speaker 3: that number.

1848
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:02,120
Speaker 4: I was thinking the same thing, like, this is an

1849
01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:05,320
Speaker 4: all star lineup, unbelievable that we're about to put together

1850
01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:08,559
Speaker 4: here for number forty four. I mean, it starts back

1851
01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 4: in nineteen thirty or nineteen forty two with a great

1852
01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:19,080
Speaker 4: Yule Blackwell mule Tide, a legend very Red was old Yule.

1853
01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:23,400
Speaker 4: But then you get into nineteen eighty four and the

1854
01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:28,720
Speaker 4: great Eric Davis E. D Eric the Red who wore

1855
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:32,200
Speaker 4: the uniform number eighty four from nineteen eighty four, number

1856
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:35,080
Speaker 4: forty four from nineteen eighty four all the way through

1857
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:39,479
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety one, and then again in nineteen ninety six

1858
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:42,960
Speaker 4: when he returned to the Reds. And then you know,

1859
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:45,320
Speaker 4: there was there was a few interesting cats in there.

1860
01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:50,120
Speaker 4: You mentioned Mike Cameron for his one season and then

1861
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:54,360
Speaker 4: beginning in two thousand, all the way through two thousand

1862
01:39:54,400 --> 01:40:00,479
Speaker 4: and eight, big donkey Adam Dunn. By the way, don't

1863
01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:03,240
Speaker 4: do this now because you're obviously listening to our show,

1864
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:09,040
Speaker 4: But on YouTube there is a Adam Dunn moon Shots compilation.

1865
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:12,559
Speaker 4: What is It's just like ten minutes of the longest

1866
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:15,160
Speaker 4: homers Adam Dunn ever hit in his big league career,

1867
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:18,280
Speaker 4: and there's a lot of them, go check them out. Then,

1868
01:40:19,479 --> 01:40:23,400
Speaker 4: from twenty ten all the way through twenty fifteen was

1869
01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:26,759
Speaker 4: the great Mike Leak. When he wasn't stealing T shirts

1870
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:30,320
Speaker 4: from Macy's Downtown, he was striking out hitters and hitting dingers.

1871
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:32,639
Speaker 4: You might remember Mike Mike Lee could flip the twig

1872
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:35,920
Speaker 4: a little bit right. Then he had guys like Kyle

1873
01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:39,160
Speaker 4: Waldrop He's stunk, Cody Reid, one of my least favorite

1874
01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:42,040
Speaker 4: Reds of all time, Tanner Rainey had a bit of

1875
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:50,160
Speaker 4: a stint. Aristena a Keino, the punished shirt who could

1876
01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:52,960
Speaker 4: forget his legendary run at the end of twenty nineteen,

1877
01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:55,960
Speaker 4: right as the Marty Brenneman Arrow was coming to an

1878
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:57,479
Speaker 4: end as well. And then.

1879
01:40:59,600 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 3: I'll talk.

1880
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:00,919
Speaker 4: I've been struggling.

1881
01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:04,960
Speaker 3: I get emotional thinking about the potential of this guy's

1882
01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:05,599
Speaker 3: career as well.

1883
01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:08,120
Speaker 4: I had water go down the wrong pipe right before

1884
01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:11,040
Speaker 4: you called to me for Richard Patino, and I have

1885
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:14,880
Speaker 4: not recovered since. Starting in twenty twenty three with his

1886
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:19,200
Speaker 4: debut in June against the Los Angeles Dodgers and currently

1887
01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:22,520
Speaker 4: number forty four. Elie de la Cruz.

1888
01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:25,720
Speaker 3: Also interesting those the number forty four. I think I

1889
01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:28,000
Speaker 3: need to get more as to what happened in nineteen

1890
01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:32,160
Speaker 3: seventy two, seventy three, seventy four, because Ed Sprague and

1891
01:41:32,240 --> 01:41:36,120
Speaker 3: Dick Baney went back and forth. In nineteen seventy two,

1892
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:38,640
Speaker 3: Ed Sprague wore the number and then Dick Baney and

1893
01:41:38,720 --> 01:41:41,320
Speaker 3: then back to Ed Sprague and then back to Dick Baney. Yeah,

1894
01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:44,120
Speaker 3: so it's a popular number back in the day.

1895
01:41:44,160 --> 01:41:44,320
Speaker 9: Now.

1896
01:41:44,479 --> 01:41:48,000
Speaker 4: Also got to give a shout out to Pat Darcy. Yeah,

1897
01:41:48,120 --> 01:41:51,120
Speaker 4: that is on the Big Red Machine in seventy five

1898
01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:53,920
Speaker 4: and seventy six. We're at number forty four and he's

1899
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:57,320
Speaker 4: from Troy, Ohio, just right up the road, right up

1900
01:41:57,360 --> 01:42:00,679
Speaker 4: there by me at Sydney. So shout out to at Darcy.

1901
01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:04,439
Speaker 3: Nice. I have one other piece of news here and

1902
01:42:04,439 --> 01:42:06,439
Speaker 3: then we'll get a little Scott's Saturerfield. I'm excited to

1903
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:09,639
Speaker 3: dive into the career of Jimmy Haynes tomorrow. Oh my gosh,

1904
01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:13,840
Speaker 3: aren't you. I can't wait. Number forty three, the one

1905
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:15,679
Speaker 3: jim Haynes. Joe Baggs.

1906
01:42:16,479 --> 01:42:18,519
Speaker 4: You want a fun fact about Jimmy Haynes, What is it?

1907
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:21,479
Speaker 4: Jimmy Haynes started the first game at Great American Ballpark.

1908
01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:30,360
Speaker 3: How about that? Yeah, Jimmy Haynes stunk. Well, I was.

1909
01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:32,560
Speaker 3: I mean it was hard because I was starting to

1910
01:42:32,920 --> 01:42:36,240
Speaker 3: look ahead to tomorrow. I mean, jim and I only

1911
01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:38,200
Speaker 3: got five names on the list before I got to

1912
01:42:38,240 --> 01:42:41,040
Speaker 3: the CNL Perez Express Highway. Yeah, I mean we might

1913
01:42:41,120 --> 01:42:43,519
Speaker 3: have to pour out. We're gonna go him. We're gonna

1914
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:45,679
Speaker 3: go from this number today to that tomorrow.

1915
01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:47,519
Speaker 4: We might have to put some meat on the grill

1916
01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:50,280
Speaker 4: for CNL Perez. But like you want to talk about

1917
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:52,960
Speaker 4: somebody who was just an atrocious player, how about Jimmy

1918
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:56,479
Speaker 4: Haynes CNL Perez. He might have something in common here

1919
01:42:56,520 --> 01:42:59,240
Speaker 4: with these explosive e r A numbers. Jimmy Haynes two

1920
01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:02,960
Speaker 4: thousand and two of four point one in two thousand

1921
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:06,840
Speaker 4: and three, an era of six point three, and the

1922
01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:09,000
Speaker 4: Reds finally cut ties with him in two thousand and

1923
01:43:09,040 --> 01:43:12,599
Speaker 4: four when he had a nine point six earned run average.

1924
01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 4: He never had in his career, Jimmy Haynes, other than

1925
01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:23,040
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety five, when he only started three games, Jimmy

1926
01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:25,960
Speaker 4: Haynes never had JA under four.

1927
01:43:27,240 --> 01:43:32,400
Speaker 3: Unbelievable. She was terrible. One other random note here. Ben

1928
01:43:32,479 --> 01:43:36,479
Speaker 3: Fawkes is a sports betan analyst at Yahoo, and he

1929
01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:39,040
Speaker 3: tweets out these information kind of after the Super Bowl

1930
01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:41,760
Speaker 3: every year. Did you know Austin that there's only been

1931
01:43:42,479 --> 01:43:46,840
Speaker 3: two Super Bowls since nineteen ninety one that Nevada sports.

1932
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:49,920
Speaker 4: Books took a loss. No, but I'm not surprised by

1933
01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:53,000
Speaker 4: that they won again this year. And how about this,

1934
01:43:53,320 --> 01:43:54,920
Speaker 4: I bet? Can I guess the Super Bowls?

1935
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:55,280
Speaker 3: Sure?

1936
01:43:56,840 --> 01:44:01,760
Speaker 4: Super Bowl forty two Giants Patriots, Yes, two thousand and eight.

1937
01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:05,960
Speaker 4: And in the last how many years since nineteen ninety one?

1938
01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:15,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say the Eagles in the Patriots in Super

1939
01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:17,479
Speaker 4: Bowl fifty three? No, or fifty two?

1940
01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:20,920
Speaker 3: You got to go back to nineteen ninety five. San

1941
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:24,840
Speaker 3: Francisco was an eighteen point favorite over the San Diego Chargers. Oh,

1942
01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:27,120
Speaker 3: and they beat them by like fifty So naturally people

1943
01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:29,640
Speaker 3: think that's a big number for the Super Bowl. It

1944
01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:32,679
Speaker 3: wasn't big enough. Chargers lost forty nine to twenty six.

1945
01:44:33,120 --> 01:44:36,120
Speaker 3: Now here's an interesting thing from Ben though Austin. They

1946
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:39,439
Speaker 3: have one of their first early bets coming in for

1947
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:42,120
Speaker 3: next year Super Bowl. I heard about this a better

1948
01:44:42,200 --> 01:44:46,560
Speaker 3: at DraftKings has wagered twenty five hundred dollars already on

1949
01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:51,120
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl sixty one exact bet of the Bengals

1950
01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:55,559
Speaker 3: beating the Cowboys five hundred to one, not twenty five

1951
01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:59,920
Speaker 3: hundred bucks would net you one point two five million dollar.

1952
01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 4: I've reached out to some sources about this to try

1953
01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:05,960
Speaker 4: to determine the identity of this person, and they have

1954
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:10,080
Speaker 4: confirmed to me that that bet, that wager was placed

1955
01:45:10,120 --> 01:45:10,960
Speaker 4: by Maurice Segger.

1956
01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:14,400
Speaker 3: Wow, we mose making it. You know, it's he's on

1957
01:45:14,479 --> 01:45:17,280
Speaker 3: a heater right now. He's seeing the board clearly, as

1958
01:45:17,320 --> 01:45:19,960
Speaker 3: they say, someone else needs to see the board clearly.

1959
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:22,680
Speaker 3: This year would be Scott Saderfield for the Cincinnati Bearcats,

1960
01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:30,320
Speaker 3: big expectations coming off the off season. An update from

1961
01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:33,320
Speaker 3: the Bearcats head coach. You'll get some audio from his

1962
01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:37,519
Speaker 3: press conference today on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station. Next. Now,

1963
01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:39,160
Speaker 3: here's your chance to win.

1964
01:45:39,320 --> 01:45:39,639
Speaker 9: Bunked?

1965
01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:44,439
Speaker 3: What is going on? Have you done any bonking yourself?

1966
01:45:44,439 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 3: What is going on?

1967
01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:46,760
Speaker 4: Hello?

1968
01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:51,240
Speaker 3: Been a big folding guy? You ever been bonked?

1969
01:45:51,479 --> 01:45:51,519
Speaker 17: No?

1970
01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:53,920
Speaker 3: But you've bunked others? Yeah.

1971
01:45:55,439 --> 01:46:01,040
Speaker 4: Shout out to Tarran Man. Unbelievable, Joe Walter and other

1972
01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:04,679
Speaker 4: unbelievable stuff. After the fulling warehouse. I love it, he said,

1973
01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:05,679
Speaker 4: you ever bonked your sister?

1974
01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:13,160
Speaker 3: Do what Teron said Joseph, Grandma, you got going on here, man,

1975
01:46:14,960 --> 01:46:15,679
Speaker 3: that's brilliant.

1976
01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:16,160
Speaker 9: I love it.

1977
01:46:16,360 --> 01:46:19,559
Speaker 3: I've got an Olympic update. Uh oh, US women lead

1978
01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:20,719
Speaker 3: one nothing over Canada.

1979
01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:23,280
Speaker 4: What am I watching? This is figure skating? I thought

1980
01:46:23,439 --> 01:46:25,760
Speaker 4: I thought the hockey was coming on watching the real thing.

1981
01:46:27,320 --> 01:46:30,280
Speaker 4: Hockey is on right now. I'm on the on the

1982
01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:32,320
Speaker 4: wrong channel, on the wrong channel. I feel like a

1983
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:34,439
Speaker 4: boomer right now. I can't figure out what channel this

1984
01:46:34,479 --> 01:46:34,920
Speaker 4: stuff's on.

1985
01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:36,439
Speaker 16: What is it doing?

1986
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:39,840
Speaker 3: What app do I need?

1987
01:46:41,240 --> 01:46:46,639
Speaker 4: By the way, yeah, go ahead transition. The Reds announced

1988
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:50,960
Speaker 4: Reds dot TV season pass subscriptions are going to be

1989
01:46:51,160 --> 01:46:54,960
Speaker 4: on sale now. Okay, you can stream Reds games on

1990
01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:59,400
Speaker 4: Reds dot tv with no blackouts for ninety nine dollars

1991
01:47:00,120 --> 01:47:03,280
Speaker 4: and ninety nine cents. Major League Baseball will produce and

1992
01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 4: distribute all those games. Additional streaming options and details regarding

1993
01:47:08,439 --> 01:47:12,840
Speaker 4: cable and satellite providers, including specific channel locations, will be

1994
01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:15,040
Speaker 4: announced at a later date. But if you go to

1995
01:47:15,120 --> 01:47:18,080
Speaker 4: Reds dot com slash watch, you can buy now. And

1996
01:47:18,200 --> 01:47:21,600
Speaker 4: a reminder that every single Reds game no matter what

1997
01:47:22,640 --> 01:47:26,320
Speaker 4: is completely free on the iHeartRadio app. You listened down

1998
01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:29,120
Speaker 4: the Hall on seven hundred WLW. You can listen to

1999
01:47:29,160 --> 01:47:31,559
Speaker 4: the Reds on the radio. Come on one other thing

2000
01:47:31,640 --> 01:47:34,880
Speaker 4: before we get the Scott Saderfield. Disturbing details coming out

2001
01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:38,920
Speaker 4: about the James Pierce arrest. Listen to this for via ESPN.

2002
01:47:40,520 --> 01:47:45,800
Speaker 4: James Pierce was dating WNBA star Rakia Jackson. She told

2003
01:47:46,200 --> 01:47:48,880
Speaker 4: police that she broke up with Pierce, which ended a

2004
01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 4: three year relationship. She then blocked his number, so he

2005
01:47:52,560 --> 01:47:56,560
Speaker 4: used a different phone to text her. Last Friday, she

2006
01:47:57,080 --> 01:47:58,960
Speaker 4: kind of mentioned like leave me alone for good. I

2007
01:47:58,960 --> 01:47:59,880
Speaker 4: don't want anything to do with you.

2008
01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:04,160
Speaker 3: Saturday morning, she's driving and noticed that she's being followed

2009
01:48:04,200 --> 01:48:07,479
Speaker 3: by him in his Lamborghini. At a stoplight, he gets

2010
01:48:07,479 --> 01:48:09,240
Speaker 3: out of the car, tries to open the door. She

2011
01:48:09,400 --> 01:48:14,320
Speaker 3: accelerated and smartly drives toward a police station. He gets

2012
01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:17,599
Speaker 3: into the car, follows her, tries to rear end her

2013
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:21,040
Speaker 3: car right at the police station. She tried to back out,

2014
01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:24,679
Speaker 3: then he collides head on with her. Police then arrived

2015
01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:27,639
Speaker 3: ordered him to the ground with a gun. He got

2016
01:48:27,760 --> 01:48:30,280
Speaker 3: back into his car, locked it and started driving away

2017
01:48:30,360 --> 01:48:33,760
Speaker 3: and hit a police officer. While driving away, crashed in

2018
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:37,559
Speaker 3: an intersection, attempted to then run away, and resisted arrest

2019
01:48:37,600 --> 01:48:42,320
Speaker 3: from many officers. Unbelievable. I think it'll be a while

2020
01:48:42,400 --> 01:48:47,040
Speaker 3: before I mean, what a scary, scary situation again for

2021
01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:51,679
Speaker 3: a guy that just finished third place in Defensive Rookie

2022
01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:53,320
Speaker 3: of the Year voting. Yeah, I think it'll be a

2023
01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:56,920
Speaker 3: while before we If he's convicted of one of those charges,

2024
01:48:56,960 --> 01:49:04,160
Speaker 3: that's minimum five years in prison. Said, just completely completely

2025
01:49:04,920 --> 01:49:08,080
Speaker 3: threw everything away. Let's go.

2026
01:49:08,320 --> 01:49:08,439
Speaker 24: Uh.

2027
01:49:08,640 --> 01:49:11,280
Speaker 4: Let that, by the way, is why default language exists.

2028
01:49:11,360 --> 01:49:11,559
Speaker 12: Yep.

2029
01:49:12,040 --> 01:49:14,760
Speaker 4: That's a good point, even if you don't have a

2030
01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:19,360
Speaker 4: criminal history. Yep, like Shamar Stuart and and I, as

2031
01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:21,960
Speaker 4: we said, like there's nothing to point towards Shamar Stewart,

2032
01:49:22,479 --> 01:49:24,280
Speaker 4: you know, being a bad guy or would do anything

2033
01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:28,320
Speaker 4: like that. But that's why teams have that language in

2034
01:49:28,360 --> 01:49:28,840
Speaker 4: their contract.

2035
01:49:30,320 --> 01:49:34,680
Speaker 3: I completely completely threw everything away. H Earlier today at

2036
01:49:34,720 --> 01:49:38,599
Speaker 3: the podium the indoor practice facility, Scott Sadderfield took the podium.

2037
01:49:38,640 --> 01:49:40,920
Speaker 3: This significant, This is the first time Scott's Suderfield has

2038
01:49:40,920 --> 01:49:41,679
Speaker 3: really spoken since.

2039
01:49:42,120 --> 01:49:42,240
Speaker 4: Uh.

2040
01:49:42,520 --> 01:49:45,519
Speaker 3: Leading up to signing day, there's been a lot of changes.

2041
01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:48,280
Speaker 3: There's a new defensive coordinator, Nate Woody is now the

2042
01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:52,840
Speaker 3: defensive coordinator. Things have kind of settled a little bit.

2043
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:55,479
Speaker 3: The roster is is pretty much what made up of

2044
01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:57,760
Speaker 3: where it needs to be. So Scott Sadderfield was made

2045
01:49:57,760 --> 01:50:00,640
Speaker 3: available for members of the media today and here is

2046
01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:02,920
Speaker 3: a few minutes of what Scouts Ouderfield had to say.

2047
01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:04,960
Speaker 25: Just start out kind of where we are right now

2048
01:50:05,120 --> 01:50:07,080
Speaker 25: with our guys. They've been back for a couple of weeks,

2049
01:50:07,080 --> 01:50:10,400
Speaker 25: a few weeks, and you know, with coach Niko and

2050
01:50:10,479 --> 01:50:13,400
Speaker 25: his staff doing our winter program, it's been fun to

2051
01:50:13,439 --> 01:50:16,760
Speaker 25: watch watch our guys work out and compete out in

2052
01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:19,280
Speaker 25: the field. As you guys know, you see, I mean

2053
01:50:19,320 --> 01:50:21,960
Speaker 25: we've got a lot of new players, twenty two transfers,

2054
01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:26,560
Speaker 25: I believe fourteen high school early in roll leees that

2055
01:50:26,680 --> 01:50:29,439
Speaker 25: came in, you know. So I think the big part

2056
01:50:29,479 --> 01:50:31,560
Speaker 25: of our off season right now is getting to know

2057
01:50:31,640 --> 01:50:33,719
Speaker 25: each other and just having a connection.

2058
01:50:33,840 --> 01:50:34,920
Speaker 3: I think that's gonna be huge.

2059
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:37,599
Speaker 25: As we talked about, you know, one of the things

2060
01:50:37,680 --> 01:50:39,839
Speaker 25: I mentioned with the Super Bowl, you see the Seahawks

2061
01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:42,080
Speaker 25: ended up winning. I've heard a lot of comments from

2062
01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:45,840
Speaker 25: their players about how connected this team was and and

2063
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:47,880
Speaker 25: I think that is a huge piece of being a

2064
01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:48,880
Speaker 25: good football team.

2065
01:50:49,479 --> 01:50:51,280
Speaker 3: It's specially with all the moving parts. You know, you

2066
01:50:51,320 --> 01:50:52,040
Speaker 3: got one hundred and some.

2067
01:50:52,120 --> 01:50:54,840
Speaker 25: Guys, man and eleven guys are gonna play, but you know,

2068
01:50:54,920 --> 01:50:56,640
Speaker 25: how they connect with each other and how to go

2069
01:50:56,680 --> 01:50:58,200
Speaker 25: out and play and play us one. I think it's

2070
01:50:58,200 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 25: gonna be critical for us. That'll be a big thing

2071
01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:01,120
Speaker 25: for us this off season.

2072
01:51:02,240 --> 01:51:02,400
Speaker 9: You know.

2073
01:51:02,520 --> 01:51:04,559
Speaker 25: So a lot of good players excited about these guys

2074
01:51:04,640 --> 01:51:06,320
Speaker 25: that are getting in here and we're just getting to

2075
01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:08,639
Speaker 25: know them now, you know, seeing how they operate, seeing

2076
01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:10,599
Speaker 25: how they work. I think that's but it's been fun

2077
01:51:10,640 --> 01:51:13,240
Speaker 25: to see, you know. And the several new coaches that

2078
01:51:13,320 --> 01:51:16,519
Speaker 25: have come in. You know, I mentioned one here, Coach Woody.

2079
01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:21,160
Speaker 25: Coach Woody first came across Coach Woody back when he

2080
01:51:21,280 --> 01:51:24,160
Speaker 25: was the defensive coordinated at Watford many years ago into

2081
01:51:24,200 --> 01:51:26,240
Speaker 25: Southern Conference, and they.

2082
01:51:26,240 --> 01:51:27,479
Speaker 3: Did a great job at Watford.

2083
01:51:28,040 --> 01:51:31,719
Speaker 25: I thought with maybe some lesser caliber players at Watford,

2084
01:51:31,880 --> 01:51:34,120
Speaker 25: and but they were always.

2085
01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:35,400
Speaker 3: In contention in the Southern Conference.

2086
01:51:35,479 --> 01:51:37,519
Speaker 25: And so when I got the head job at AP

2087
01:51:37,640 --> 01:51:39,960
Speaker 25: back in twenty thirteen, I felt like he was one

2088
01:51:39,960 --> 01:51:41,400
Speaker 25: of the guys I needed to go talk to and

2089
01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:44,320
Speaker 25: ended up hiring him. To come coach at app State,

2090
01:51:44,360 --> 01:51:47,280
Speaker 25: where I felt like we had better players. I felt like, Okay,

2091
01:51:47,320 --> 01:51:48,960
Speaker 25: well we can we can do that scheme and what

2092
01:51:49,040 --> 01:51:52,640
Speaker 25: they're doing there at Watford and having sis with better players. Now,

2093
01:51:52,680 --> 01:51:54,679
Speaker 25: I feel like we can come into the Sun Belt

2094
01:51:54,760 --> 01:51:56,760
Speaker 25: and really do some great things, you know, cause we

2095
01:51:56,960 --> 01:51:59,200
Speaker 25: were transitioning from the Southern Conference to the Sunbelt at

2096
01:51:59,200 --> 01:52:02,439
Speaker 25: that point in time and man, and it really paid off.

2097
01:52:02,680 --> 01:52:05,920
Speaker 25: We ended up having an outstanding defense. I believe coach

2098
01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:08,080
Speaker 25: Woodie was with me there for maybe five or six

2099
01:52:08,200 --> 01:52:12,040
Speaker 25: years before he left to go to Georgia Tech. But

2100
01:52:12,439 --> 01:52:16,519
Speaker 25: but some outstanding defenses there. You know, it's defensively the

2101
01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:18,560
Speaker 25: scheme wise, I think, you know, so three four, but

2102
01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:21,160
Speaker 25: you're gonna you're always gonna bring at least four guys,

2103
01:52:21,439 --> 01:52:24,519
Speaker 25: uh to the pressure with the quarterback. You can bring

2104
01:52:24,560 --> 01:52:27,599
Speaker 25: it from the field, from the from the boundary. It's

2105
01:52:27,760 --> 01:52:29,760
Speaker 25: very multiple defense and do a lot of different things

2106
01:52:29,840 --> 01:52:32,080
Speaker 25: with it. You know, you can blitz literally any player

2107
01:52:32,160 --> 01:52:34,959
Speaker 25: on the field. Can can get in the backfield, corners, safeties,

2108
01:52:35,320 --> 01:52:38,919
Speaker 25: all the linebackers. We were one of the top interception

2109
01:52:39,080 --> 01:52:41,000
Speaker 25: teams in the country. I think in a four year

2110
01:52:41,080 --> 01:52:44,560
Speaker 25: span we were led to country interceptions, and for me,

2111
01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:46,280
Speaker 25: that's one thing we got to get way, you know,

2112
01:52:46,439 --> 01:52:48,800
Speaker 25: much better at his interceptions. We were worse than the

2113
01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:52,200
Speaker 25: country last year and getting interceptions. I think that's gonna

2114
01:52:52,200 --> 01:52:54,280
Speaker 25: be a main emphasis for us this year, to improve

2115
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:58,560
Speaker 25: our past defense and particularly giving up big plays, but

2116
01:52:58,680 --> 01:53:03,320
Speaker 25: while while also stopping run. I think, you know, coach Wood,

2117
01:53:03,320 --> 01:53:07,000
Speaker 25: he's got great experience, been around a long time and

2118
01:53:07,200 --> 01:53:10,720
Speaker 25: has been very good everywhere he's been coaching defenses. So

2119
01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:14,760
Speaker 25: it's a good time nowadays, I think too. You know,

2120
01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:17,280
Speaker 25: you're bringing a new coordinator. Well, we got a new

2121
01:53:17,320 --> 01:53:19,320
Speaker 25: a lot of new defensive players, you know, so there's

2122
01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:21,200
Speaker 25: a lot of guys that are coming in that'll be

2123
01:53:21,320 --> 01:53:23,600
Speaker 25: new for them, you know. Some of the guys that

2124
01:53:23,680 --> 01:53:26,000
Speaker 25: are back, some of the linebackers J T and Simmon

2125
01:53:26,040 --> 01:53:28,200
Speaker 25: and Move and some of those guys that are coming

2126
01:53:28,280 --> 01:53:30,479
Speaker 25: back obviously will have to learn the new scheme. But

2127
01:53:30,680 --> 01:53:32,120
Speaker 25: there's gonna be a lot of additions that will be

2128
01:53:32,160 --> 01:53:34,519
Speaker 25: coming in here, you know, guys like m. J.

2129
01:53:34,640 --> 01:53:35,599
Speaker 3: Cannon from Bowling Green.

2130
01:53:35,800 --> 01:53:38,240
Speaker 25: I think it's looked really good so far, Ty Goodwill,

2131
01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:42,360
Speaker 25: Kenny Worthy, those guys have really shown out, I thought

2132
01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:46,439
Speaker 25: so far. Within the workouts and and so it'll be

2133
01:53:46,520 --> 01:53:49,240
Speaker 25: fun to see. And you know, as you think about

2134
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:52,559
Speaker 25: the other guys offensively, you know, a lot of receivers

2135
01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:53,080
Speaker 25: that we brought in.

2136
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:54,639
Speaker 3: We're excited about these guys.

2137
01:53:55,040 --> 01:53:57,760
Speaker 25: Running backs, you know, basically a new running back room.

2138
01:53:58,040 --> 01:53:59,280
Speaker 3: Got a Zion back, which we love.

2139
01:53:59,360 --> 01:53:59,559
Speaker 12: Zion.

2140
01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:01,680
Speaker 25: Think he's go'll be an outstanding player for us this year.

2141
01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:04,840
Speaker 25: But a lot of new players there. Probably the most

2142
01:54:04,840 --> 01:54:07,519
Speaker 25: stable position on our whole football team is probably offensive line,

2143
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:09,400
Speaker 25: which is if you want to have one position to stables,

2144
01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:11,840
Speaker 25: that's a good one to have a lot of guys

2145
01:54:11,960 --> 01:54:13,880
Speaker 25: that are coming back, but also some guys that are

2146
01:54:13,960 --> 01:54:17,559
Speaker 25: real to emerge and become great players for us this year.

2147
01:54:18,280 --> 01:54:20,720
Speaker 25: So we're excited about that as well. So with that,

2148
01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:22,080
Speaker 25: I'll just open up any questions.

2149
01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:27,320
Speaker 3: All right, there is the opening Scott Saderfield addressing a

2150
01:54:27,400 --> 01:54:30,360
Speaker 3: lot of different things here for the UC Bearcats. Obviously,

2151
01:54:31,200 --> 01:54:34,560
Speaker 3: you have a new defensive coordinator that's gonna take a

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Speaker 3: little bit of adjustment going from Tyson Weitz thirty three

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Speaker 3: to five. We'll see what Nate Woody can bring to

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Speaker 3: the table. But I just think the understanding of it's

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01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:47,200
Speaker 3: a lot of moving parts on the roster, but the

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Speaker 3: strongest point, the most camaraderie offensive line. That's a good

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01:54:50,200 --> 01:54:53,600
Speaker 3: place to start. The running back room is in good shape. Obviously,

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01:54:53,600 --> 01:54:56,480
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to answer questions about quarterback. The defensive

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Speaker 3: side of the ball. They lost a lot of skilled

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Speaker 3: players at wide receiver. But a little bit of an

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Speaker 3: update on kind of where things stand right now early

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01:55:04,120 --> 01:55:10,280
Speaker 3: February for the Cincinnati Bearcats and their quest to get

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01:55:10,280 --> 01:55:12,640
Speaker 3: themselves back into contention in the Big Twelve starting next year.

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Speaker 3: Let's take a break. We'll come back one more segment

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Speaker 3: before we update things with Moegar for our quick Hits segment.

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Speaker 3: At the end of the show, we'll pass things off

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Speaker 3: to the Mowegar Show that comes up next. All right

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Speaker 3: here on the Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 27: A message WCKY Cincinnati and iHeartRadio Station Guaranteed Human ESPN

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Speaker 27: fifteen thirty I Heard Radio.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back CINT three to sixty. ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: Sports Station. Thanks for sticking around with us a couple

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Speaker 3: minutes here we'll get to Moegar for quick kits. What

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Speaker 3: else do we have here?

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Speaker 4: Today Austin little bit of Red's news. Tyler Stevenson, as

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Speaker 4: you know, had an arbitration case against the Reds.

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Speaker 9: He won.

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Speaker 4: Wow, the Reds had two players go to arbitration. It

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Speaker 4: was Tyler Stevenson and Graham Ashcraft. Both players won. That

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Speaker 4: means Tyler Stevenson will get six point eight million dollars

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Speaker 4: this year. You may remember the Reds filed at six

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Speaker 4: point five to five million, yeah, and Tyler Stevenson at

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Speaker 4: six point eight. They squabbled over the difference, but at

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Speaker 4: the end the judge rules in favor of Tyler Stevenson

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Speaker 4: for the most part.

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Speaker 16: Team.

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Speaker 3: That's right. We've seen players winning more of these than not.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a point at one point, I think

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Speaker 4: it was like six or seven of the arbitration cases

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Speaker 4: had been won by the players, like all of them.

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Speaker 4: I don't know exactly what the final number is or

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Speaker 4: if there's any remaining, but Tyler Stevenson will get six

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Speaker 4: point eight million, right on that one.

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Speaker 3: Also.

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Speaker 4: Au Haneo Suarez reported today to Goodyear Arizona. Au Hanio

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Speaker 4: of course, playing in the World Baseball Classic.

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Speaker 3: When do players leave for that?

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Speaker 9: Do we know?

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Speaker 4: I don't know that I would have to to get

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Speaker 4: some clarification on.

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Speaker 3: But I thought Charlie tweeted something out today because that

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01:57:24,400 --> 01:57:27,000
Speaker 3: to me was, you know, you you bring a player

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01:57:27,040 --> 01:57:29,520
Speaker 3: into a new system, how much time do they have

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Speaker 3: in kind of getting acclimated to those around in the

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Speaker 3: system they're in. Charlie about thirty minutes ago, Charlie Goldsmith

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01:57:37,240 --> 01:57:41,280
Speaker 3: said that he talked with Junio Suarez. He saw his interactions.

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Speaker 3: It's clear how excited he is to be back, remembers

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Speaker 3: a lot of the young cor As prospects. Said he's

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Speaker 3: excited to become a part of the quote unquote family.

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01:57:49,800 --> 01:57:51,480
Speaker 3: And then Charlie notes he'll leave at the end of

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Speaker 3: the month for the World Baseball Classic, where he is

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Speaker 3: expected to play every day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so as little time around Chris Valaika as we

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01:57:59,800 --> 01:58:03,600
Speaker 4: can get ray Uenio Suarez, I think most people would agree.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was also interesting. In Charlie's piece Yesterday's

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Speaker 4: First Like Notes from Spring Training, he said that Nicolodola

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Speaker 4: wanted to pitch in the World Baseball Classic and kind

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Speaker 4: of went back and forth with Terry Francona about it,

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Speaker 4: and Francona said, if it's something that you really really

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Speaker 4: want to do. I will support you, but I want

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Speaker 4: you to be wealthy. Maybe it's something when down the

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Speaker 4: line you have fifty million dollars in the bank and

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Speaker 4: you can do it. And so it looks like the

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Speaker 4: Reds have not really been wanting their players to participate.

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Speaker 4: And when it comes to pitchers and especially a guy

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Speaker 4: like Lodolo.

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Speaker 3: I'm good with it.

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Speaker 4: I don't blame them. Yeah, I don't blame them at all.

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Speaker 3: The Super Bowl sixty one logo was revealed yesterday. To me,

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01:58:49,880 --> 01:58:51,520
Speaker 3: it looks like there's some Bengals colors in that.

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Speaker 4: It's part of the reason why I think maybe a

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01:58:53,600 --> 01:58:57,800
Speaker 4: direct correlation why that guy or that person. Yeah, ever,

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01:58:57,920 --> 01:59:00,480
Speaker 4: it might be placed that wager between the Bengals of

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01:59:00,520 --> 01:59:00,920
Speaker 4: the Cowboy.

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Speaker 3: Now, it does look like a Bengal orange tint to it.

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Speaker 3: I'm a little curious as to what the blue. How

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01:59:08,120 --> 01:59:10,320
Speaker 3: do you portray that? Do you think that's a Cowboy blue?

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01:59:10,360 --> 01:59:12,760
Speaker 3: You think it's a Giant blue? Maybe a Detroit Lion blue.

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Speaker 4: I think, hmmm, I kind of think it's a Seahawks. Oh,

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Speaker 4: the Seahawks might be trying to go back to back.

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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow and company will have to exp could be

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Speaker 4: on the national stage.

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Speaker 3: If you look at it a certain way, there could

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Speaker 3: be a little Carolina panther bluing that. Oh Andy Dalton,

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01:59:31,080 --> 01:59:34,160
Speaker 3: Bryce Young goes down in the NFC title, Andy Dalton

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Speaker 3: comes back in faces the Bengals in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: What do you think that would pay hefty number? Nice

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01:59:43,240 --> 01:59:48,480
Speaker 3: little price perhaps, Mike, speaking of the little Super Bowl fallout,

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Speaker 3: Mike Vrabel did say that they will be sticking with

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Speaker 3: Will Campbell at left tackle. So I think some folks

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01:59:56,640 --> 01:59:58,800
Speaker 3: may be watching that and thinking, Okay, is that you're

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01:59:58,880 --> 02:00:01,520
Speaker 3: really your guy? The future? Drake May a vote of

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Speaker 3: confidence early into the offseason now for Will Campbell as

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Speaker 3: he will remain a left tackle for.

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Speaker 9: The UH.

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Speaker 3: Patriots, and it has already been made official. Garrett Crochet

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02:00:17,280 --> 02:00:19,800
Speaker 3: will be the opening day starter that was already announced

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Speaker 3: by the Boston Red Sox. I had plenty of time

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Speaker 3: to get ready, so as many lefties and spring training

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Speaker 3: as you want to see, I would imagine it's going

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Speaker 3: to be him, followed by Ranger Suarez on back to

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Speaker 3: back days, if.

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Speaker 4: I'm not mistaken the Reds. The Reds got him pretty

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02:00:35,120 --> 02:00:42,520
Speaker 4: good when they played the Red Sox at Fenway this year.

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Speaker 4: I think it was the same game that Chase Burns

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Speaker 4: was tipping pitches. If I'm not mistaken yet, June thirtieth,

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Speaker 4: he pitched. He gave up eight hits in that game,

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Speaker 4: along with five earned runs the strikeout nine. Yeah, but

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Speaker 4: in his career, dating back to his time with the

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Speaker 4: White Sox as well, all the way back to twenty twenty,

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Speaker 4: he's got a six nine to two ERA against.

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Speaker 3: The Red Legs.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, great, yeah, okay to twenty twenty four. I mean,

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Speaker 4: he was so bad that night that Cees got a

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Speaker 4: hit off of him.

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Speaker 3: Twenty twenty four, he just went four and two thirds,

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02:01:17,800 --> 02:01:20,480
Speaker 3: gave up five runs and then six innings five runs.

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Speaker 4: Last year, Sarreck Crochet was so bad that night Matt

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02:01:23,960 --> 02:01:26,640
Speaker 4: McClain got three hits. That was like forty That was

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02:01:26,720 --> 02:01:28,520
Speaker 4: like forty percent of the hits McLain got.

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Speaker 3: Awesome, was that like the Matt McClain's back game might

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02:01:31,520 --> 02:01:33,800
Speaker 3: have been like here we go, Austin's Bett might have

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Speaker 3: some juice, might have been we'll take our final break.

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Speaker 3: Mowagger stands by to join us next for four hits,

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Speaker 3: talking about that guy Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: Now it's time for quick Hits. On Tony Pikes since

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Speaker 1: he three sixty.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back since he three sixty. ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: Sports Station. Mowager's Yeah, The Mowagar Show comes up right

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02:01:59,280 --> 02:02:02,080
Speaker 3: after this three to zero five every afternoon. But mo

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02:02:02,360 --> 02:02:04,240
Speaker 3: is kind enough to join us here for quick hits

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02:02:04,280 --> 02:02:07,360
Speaker 3: to finish off the show. Kind enough at charity an

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02:02:07,440 --> 02:02:10,040
Speaker 3: active charity, yes, in which we'd love to maybe at

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02:02:10,080 --> 02:02:12,800
Speaker 3: some point give away some locks and free money. Would

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02:02:12,840 --> 02:02:15,120
Speaker 3: love to for anyone down the hall that you know

2297
02:02:15,480 --> 02:02:16,600
Speaker 3: is looking to maybe sell something.

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Speaker 4: March is going to be here, March Madness, March Madness,

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02:02:19,720 --> 02:02:24,400
Speaker 4: Baseball right around the corner. Future Kentucky Derby, Oh Masters,

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Speaker 4: Oh and NFL Draft bets, the I E. L.

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Speaker 9: Or what the leagues of Arena Football are week getting?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we got a bunch of them. What about the

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Speaker 4: combine combine? Bet on the combine?

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Speaker 9: You can bet on the combine. You could also bet

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Speaker 9: on whether we'll do.

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Speaker 3: A show for say, you can bet on who's going

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Speaker 3: to be at the NFL scouting Combine. What do you

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02:02:42,640 --> 02:02:44,000
Speaker 3: got up on the show today?

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Speaker 9: Paul Danner J has a ten step path for the

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Speaker 9: Bengals to get back to the Super Bowl. We're going

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02:02:49,880 --> 02:02:52,360
Speaker 9: to go through the steps, not necessarily all of them,

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02:02:52,400 --> 02:02:55,040
Speaker 9: because I do want folks to go read his content,

2313
02:02:55,160 --> 02:02:57,280
Speaker 9: but he makes the case for the Bengals being bold,

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02:02:57,320 --> 02:03:00,120
Speaker 9: he makes the case for the Bengals tagging tray, and

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02:03:00,200 --> 02:03:02,040
Speaker 9: so we're going to talk about all of that with

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Speaker 9: Paul Show.

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Speaker 3: Just messaged me and was telling me how much of

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Speaker 3: a fan he is of Darren Peterson Kansas and just

2319
02:03:11,880 --> 02:03:13,600
Speaker 3: hope that you guys had an opportunity to maybe talk

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Speaker 3: about him and his grit and toughness and willingness to

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02:03:17,760 --> 02:03:18,920
Speaker 3: lay it all on the line for his team.

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Speaker 9: He's uber talented. Dude. We already have a problem in

2323
02:03:23,800 --> 02:03:27,560
Speaker 9: the NBA with dudes not wanting to play. I'm sorry, man,

2324
02:03:27,760 --> 02:03:29,040
Speaker 9: maybe he is deathly ill.

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Speaker 3: I saw a tweet yesterday that he's bringing the NBA

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Speaker 3: style of load management to college basketball.

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Speaker 9: How do you not want to play in that game

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Speaker 9: last night? If you're a competitor, And again I far

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Speaker 9: be it from me to assume that he's not as

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Speaker 9: sick as he is, But if you're a competitor that game,

2331
02:03:45,880 --> 02:03:48,280
Speaker 9: those stakes, that environment, how do you and it was

2332
02:03:48,280 --> 02:03:49,960
Speaker 9: a great game still, but how do you not want

2333
02:03:50,000 --> 02:03:52,880
Speaker 9: to play in that game and show what you can

2334
02:03:52,920 --> 02:03:55,440
Speaker 9: do against the best team in the country, especially when

2335
02:03:55,480 --> 02:03:58,080
Speaker 9: you've ducked out of games against harder teams.

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Speaker 3: Kansas lost to UCF and Virginia in January. Yeah, and

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02:04:02,160 --> 02:04:04,560
Speaker 3: here they are as we turn the page to February,

2338
02:04:04,600 --> 02:04:06,280
Speaker 3: getting into March, and they all of a sudden look

2339
02:04:06,320 --> 02:04:08,440
Speaker 3: like a contender without their best player.

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Speaker 9: Last night, Darren Peterson want to play against the Bearcats

2341
02:04:10,760 --> 02:04:11,560
Speaker 9: a week from Saturday.

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Speaker 4: I think that's one he should sit out too. I

2343
02:04:14,280 --> 02:04:15,720
Speaker 4: think Florie Butdunga should also join.

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Speaker 12: Um.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing. They play that that Dawn team

2346
02:04:20,320 --> 02:04:24,080
Speaker 3: Saturday Monday game. Oh yeah, and the Monday game is

2347
02:04:24,120 --> 02:04:25,080
Speaker 3: against Houston.

2348
02:04:25,480 --> 02:04:27,200
Speaker 9: So why load management?

2349
02:04:27,280 --> 02:04:29,920
Speaker 3: Why play their best players in that exactly when you

2350
02:04:30,000 --> 02:04:32,920
Speaker 3: get they play Houston and then at Arizona the next two.

2351
02:04:33,120 --> 02:04:34,800
Speaker 9: This is the one where you want to rest those

2352
02:04:35,360 --> 02:04:37,040
Speaker 9: down a little bit. I just dial it back, and

2353
02:04:37,880 --> 02:04:39,680
Speaker 9: you know, Bill, like your team is in the tournament,

2354
02:04:39,760 --> 02:04:42,640
Speaker 9: shouldn't the idea here be for you know, you get

2355
02:04:42,680 --> 02:04:45,000
Speaker 9: as many big twelve teams as possible, and our team

2356
02:04:45,080 --> 02:04:47,000
Speaker 9: can't run the table if they don't be Cancas.

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Speaker 3: I'll get out of ahead of it as well. Texas

2358
02:04:48,600 --> 02:04:51,880
Speaker 3: Tech JT. Toppin's needs some rest as well. Exactly, you

2359
02:04:51,960 --> 02:04:54,000
Speaker 3: gotta be ready for March. This is not about the

2360
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Speaker 3: Big twelve.

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Speaker 9: The greatest ability in the NCAA tournament, Tony is availability.

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02:04:58,080 --> 02:05:00,720
Speaker 3: Who does Texas Tech play right after the bat at

2363
02:05:00,800 --> 02:05:01,360
Speaker 3: Iowa State?

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Speaker 9: What I mean?

2365
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Speaker 3: Don't win the big ones? Eleven and seven gets the Bearcats.

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Speaker 9: Also on the show today, Jordan Bischel, Oh you see

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Speaker 9: baseball coach our guy, Attorney Stuart W. Penrose from the

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Speaker 9: Manila Law Group is going to talk about your boy,

2369
02:05:18,640 --> 02:05:22,760
Speaker 9: Charles Beedioco being told of course, and Pat Brennan from

2370
02:05:22,800 --> 02:05:26,000
Speaker 9: Goodyear five oh five. There's a lot to get to.

2371
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Speaker 3: What about the Piston Tornets last night?

2372
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Speaker 9: I think every Detroit player in that fight should be

2373
02:05:30,320 --> 02:05:31,560
Speaker 9: suspended until next year.

2374
02:05:32,880 --> 02:05:35,600
Speaker 3: The best part the image of Isaiah Stewart with the

2375
02:05:35,720 --> 02:05:38,280
Speaker 3: ice wraps around the knees and they're like falling apart

2376
02:05:38,360 --> 02:05:39,520
Speaker 3: as he's sprinting on the floor.

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Speaker 9: That's a good old fashioned NBA Foh my god, it

2378
02:05:45,200 --> 02:05:49,240
Speaker 9: was good old fashioned n No, we don't, no, we

2379
02:05:49,400 --> 02:05:52,320
Speaker 9: don't and like no pearl clutching after it either, no,

2380
02:05:52,640 --> 02:05:55,280
Speaker 9: like oh see you know this is why we can't

2381
02:05:55,360 --> 02:05:57,360
Speaker 9: have sports, and it was just like, you know what,

2382
02:05:57,720 --> 02:06:01,280
Speaker 9: stuff happened during an athletic content. I think everybody was

2383
02:06:01,320 --> 02:06:03,760
Speaker 9: so taked out from the super Bowl that it's like,

2384
02:06:03,800 --> 02:06:05,360
Speaker 9: you know what, I don't have any takes on this

2385
02:06:05,520 --> 02:06:07,320
Speaker 9: Pistons Hornets game that I wasn't watching.

2386
02:06:07,320 --> 02:06:08,360
Speaker 3: It was a melee.

2387
02:06:08,720 --> 02:06:09,800
Speaker 9: Everybody was taked out.

2388
02:06:10,360 --> 02:06:13,680
Speaker 3: Paul's usually good at fights around training camp of naming them, Yes,

2389
02:06:13,800 --> 02:06:15,560
Speaker 3: you know what he would name last night that was

2390
02:06:15,600 --> 02:06:16,800
Speaker 3: a fracas Donnybrook.

2391
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Speaker 9: Oh, donny Brook works too, but I think that was

2392
02:06:18,920 --> 02:06:21,800
Speaker 9: a freakas. Yeah, that's fair, Like that wasn't your typical

2393
02:06:21,960 --> 02:06:25,360
Speaker 9: twenty twenty six pro sports fight where it's like, you know,

2394
02:06:25,440 --> 02:06:27,360
Speaker 9: hold me back, come on, hold No, it was like

2395
02:06:27,480 --> 02:06:31,160
Speaker 9: those dudes were Yeah, they had police presence outside the

2396
02:06:31,240 --> 02:06:32,280
Speaker 9: locker rooms.

2397
02:06:34,160 --> 02:06:38,360
Speaker 3: Last night. Mentioned that the Kansas win Louisville dominated an

2398
02:06:38,480 --> 02:06:41,200
Speaker 3: NC state team that's been playing well. Cal Brown, you

2399
02:06:41,240 --> 02:06:44,000
Speaker 3: want to talk about I know it's being talked about

2400
02:06:44,040 --> 02:06:46,360
Speaker 3: the freshman class in college basketball this year and in

2401
02:06:46,480 --> 02:06:50,200
Speaker 3: the landscape of transfers and all that, the freshman class

2402
02:06:50,280 --> 02:06:52,080
Speaker 3: like this, if there was a year to have like

2403
02:06:52,320 --> 02:06:54,240
Speaker 3: a number seven or eight pick, you're still going to

2404
02:06:54,280 --> 02:06:55,560
Speaker 3: get a very good player in the draft.

2405
02:06:55,600 --> 02:06:57,080
Speaker 9: You're gonna get a ton and then you add to

2406
02:06:57,120 --> 02:06:57,960
Speaker 9: a kishantillery.

2407
02:06:58,160 --> 02:07:03,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, late edition, plated edition. Xavier last night

2408
02:07:03,600 --> 02:07:07,320
Speaker 3: falls in overtime fifteen and a half point dog. They've

2409
02:07:07,360 --> 02:07:11,520
Speaker 3: played Saint John's well both times. The foul disparity last

2410
02:07:11,560 --> 02:07:13,640
Speaker 3: night incredible. They scored four points in overtime and had

2411
02:07:13,680 --> 02:07:14,720
Speaker 3: three players foul out.

2412
02:07:14,600 --> 02:07:19,080
Speaker 9: Forty one to seventeen. But like sometimes there's a legitimate,

2413
02:07:19,240 --> 02:07:21,440
Speaker 9: like gripe against the officials when there's something like that.

2414
02:07:21,680 --> 02:07:24,520
Speaker 9: Last night, Xavier fouled. Yeah, it wasn't just send Saint

2415
02:07:24,560 --> 02:07:26,080
Speaker 9: John's to the line forty one times.

2416
02:07:26,160 --> 02:07:28,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, it felt like Xavier's chance was at the end

2417
02:07:28,520 --> 02:07:31,280
Speaker 4: of regulation when you go to overtime on the road.

2418
02:07:31,360 --> 02:07:31,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, tough.

2419
02:07:32,160 --> 02:07:35,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, but like Saint John's was complicit, just missing free

2420
02:07:35,080 --> 02:07:37,920
Speaker 9: throw after free throw. Rick Patino was really effusive in

2421
02:07:38,000 --> 02:07:40,400
Speaker 9: his praise of Richard Patina. Now you might go, well

2422
02:07:41,480 --> 02:07:43,880
Speaker 9: because of who his son is, but like I think

2423
02:07:44,000 --> 02:07:48,640
Speaker 9: Richard Patino has squeezed everything he can out of that team. Now,

2424
02:07:48,760 --> 02:07:50,960
Speaker 9: it's frustrating to lose games that you have a chance

2425
02:07:51,000 --> 02:07:54,240
Speaker 9: to win. It was frustrating last night, but I think

2426
02:07:54,280 --> 02:07:56,200
Speaker 9: he has. I was watching it with my wife and

2427
02:07:56,280 --> 02:07:58,720
Speaker 9: I'm like, I think this guy has gotten as much

2428
02:07:58,760 --> 02:08:01,480
Speaker 9: out of this collection of players as you ever could

2429
02:08:01,520 --> 02:08:03,840
Speaker 9: have asked him. No, that doesn't soften the blow when

2430
02:08:03,840 --> 02:08:06,800
Speaker 9: you lose. And if the takeaway was the res screwed him.

2431
02:08:07,120 --> 02:08:09,000
Speaker 9: I thought Zavier got a tough whistle on the road

2432
02:08:09,000 --> 02:08:12,520
Speaker 9: against Creighton. They did not last night. They just kept fouling.

2433
02:08:14,880 --> 02:08:18,960
Speaker 3: On this date in two thousand, Griffy in Cincinnati happened.

2434
02:08:19,200 --> 02:08:20,840
Speaker 3: Joe Danim was talking about it today. Have just the

2435
02:08:20,960 --> 02:08:26,000
Speaker 3: scene You've got like political figures on the podium with Griffy.

2436
02:08:26,480 --> 02:08:27,160
Speaker 3: I remember it.

2437
02:08:27,560 --> 02:08:30,960
Speaker 9: Can we do that now? I have to cut the video.

2438
02:08:31,480 --> 02:08:34,080
Speaker 3: I remember because you obviously didn't know what the future

2439
02:08:34,160 --> 02:08:35,840
Speaker 3: was gonna hold. But at the time, it's like they're

2440
02:08:35,840 --> 02:08:38,000
Speaker 3: gonna win a World Series. Yes, and Austin said it

2441
02:08:38,000 --> 02:08:40,280
Speaker 3: today it would be like today Otani signing with the Rets.

2442
02:08:40,680 --> 02:08:43,640
Speaker 3: That's how big Griffy was. And you I just remember

2443
02:08:43,720 --> 02:08:47,000
Speaker 3: the optimism in Cincinnati. Do you have a specific memory

2444
02:08:47,080 --> 02:08:51,760
Speaker 3: from that press conference or that day, So.

2445
02:08:52,160 --> 02:08:56,120
Speaker 9: If you remember, like starting right around Christmas, it had

2446
02:08:56,160 --> 02:08:58,720
Speaker 9: been talked about and it was ramping up to the

2447
02:08:58,800 --> 02:09:01,920
Speaker 9: point that it was like, this is going to happen.

2448
02:09:01,960 --> 02:09:03,720
Speaker 9: It's a matter of when. So there's two things that

2449
02:09:03,800 --> 02:09:06,920
Speaker 9: I remember. Number One, we got Ken Griffy junior and

2450
02:09:07,000 --> 02:09:08,840
Speaker 9: the UC Bearcats were the number one ranked team in

2451
02:09:08,880 --> 02:09:11,000
Speaker 9: the country, and I remember thinking like, this is it.

2452
02:09:11,360 --> 02:09:12,160
Speaker 4: This is the episode.

2453
02:09:13,440 --> 02:09:15,280
Speaker 9: I was less than a year out of college that

2454
02:09:15,360 --> 02:09:18,480
Speaker 9: I'm like, adulthood is going to be awesome. Number Two,

2455
02:09:18,920 --> 02:09:21,240
Speaker 9: as this is happening, we had a talk show host

2456
02:09:21,320 --> 02:09:23,440
Speaker 9: on the air by the name of Rick Robinson, very

2457
02:09:23,520 --> 02:09:26,280
Speaker 9: nice man. Rick Robinson came to work like the day

2458
02:09:26,320 --> 02:09:28,520
Speaker 9: before the junior deal got done, and he's like, guys,

2459
02:09:29,280 --> 02:09:32,800
Speaker 9: I think the Reds are gonna get Griffy. Like really, Rick, Okay,

2460
02:09:32,920 --> 02:09:35,880
Speaker 9: He's like, yeah, you read the paper today. It's like, yeah,

2461
02:09:35,960 --> 02:09:37,880
Speaker 9: you know, we aren't paying attention. That was like his

2462
02:09:37,960 --> 02:09:41,800
Speaker 9: whole show. Yeah, no, I remember there was you know,

2463
02:09:41,840 --> 02:09:44,000
Speaker 9: they won ninety six games the season before, and it

2464
02:09:44,080 --> 02:09:46,040
Speaker 9: was like, holy crap. They just added to Michael Jordan

2465
02:09:46,120 --> 02:09:48,800
Speaker 9: of baseball to their team, thirty years old, all century

2466
02:09:49,240 --> 02:09:51,800
Speaker 9: in his prime. And I've been thinking about that a

2467
02:09:51,840 --> 02:09:53,320
Speaker 9: lot because a lot of people looked at the Kyle

2468
02:09:53,400 --> 02:09:56,000
Speaker 9: Schwerber thing is we'll see it would be Griffy two

2469
02:09:56,000 --> 02:09:59,440
Speaker 9: point zero. And the difference is when the Reds got Griffy,

2470
02:09:59,560 --> 02:10:02,000
Speaker 9: they didn't addressed their biggest weakness because the ninety nine

2471
02:10:02,080 --> 02:10:04,760
Speaker 9: Reds won ninety six games largely in spite of their

2472
02:10:04,760 --> 02:10:07,360
Speaker 9: starting pitching. So as awesome as ken Griffy was, and

2473
02:10:07,440 --> 02:10:09,520
Speaker 9: you make that trade ten times out of ten, he

2474
02:10:09,600 --> 02:10:11,880
Speaker 9: didn't help what their biggest weakness was from the year before.

2475
02:10:12,000 --> 02:10:14,080
Speaker 9: That would not have been the case with Kyle Schwerber,

2476
02:10:14,200 --> 02:10:17,160
Speaker 9: who would have addressed their biggest weakness. But that day

2477
02:10:18,040 --> 02:10:20,680
Speaker 9: was awesome. I'll give you one more memory, Okay, seven

2478
02:10:20,800 --> 02:10:23,840
Speaker 9: hundred WLW ran a television commercial that said, see you

2479
02:10:23,920 --> 02:10:24,760
Speaker 9: in the World series?

2480
02:10:24,920 --> 02:10:26,840
Speaker 3: Oh oh boy, if you believe in Jinx? Is that

2481
02:10:26,920 --> 02:10:27,640
Speaker 3: worse than aft tab?

2482
02:10:27,960 --> 02:10:29,960
Speaker 9: It might be worse than a half tablets, say the tab.

2483
02:10:30,040 --> 02:10:32,280
Speaker 9: Probably they ran a TV commercial. They had it in

2484
02:10:32,360 --> 02:10:35,800
Speaker 9: the cap and so Griffy like during all the TV

2485
02:10:36,000 --> 02:10:39,840
Speaker 9: newscasts that night highlighting the Griffy press conference, there's the

2486
02:10:39,920 --> 02:10:43,200
Speaker 9: TV commercial the Home of the Reds says, see you

2487
02:10:43,280 --> 02:10:45,800
Speaker 9: in the World series didn't work out?

2488
02:10:46,400 --> 02:10:47,440
Speaker 3: You want to bring a do you want to bring?

2489
02:10:49,280 --> 02:10:49,320
Speaker 8: No?

2490
02:10:49,720 --> 02:10:51,720
Speaker 9: All right, I don't want descending players.

2491
02:10:52,280 --> 02:10:55,000
Speaker 4: I think there's some revisionist history on Nick Castianos for

2492
02:10:55,080 --> 02:10:55,600
Speaker 4: Tony Pike.

2493
02:10:55,640 --> 02:10:58,600
Speaker 3: Who's the greatest forty four in your opinion of Reds history?

2494
02:10:58,760 --> 02:11:00,760
Speaker 3: Eric Davis, Ellie Daily Crue was Adam done.

2495
02:11:01,480 --> 02:11:05,360
Speaker 9: It's Eric Davis authored one of the most iconic moments

2496
02:11:05,400 --> 02:11:09,480
Speaker 9: in the history of the franchise. Ul Blackwell, the punisher

2497
02:11:09,560 --> 02:11:12,720
Speaker 9: in the August of nineteen was awesome. As Adam Dunn

2498
02:11:12,800 --> 02:11:15,240
Speaker 9: is underappreciated, would have fit in well for this day

2499
02:11:15,280 --> 02:11:18,160
Speaker 9: and age of baseball. I never understood why people didn't

2500
02:11:18,240 --> 02:11:20,560
Speaker 9: like him, but Eric Davis is the coolest baseball player

2501
02:11:20,600 --> 02:11:23,120
Speaker 9: who ever lived. His home run in the first inning

2502
02:11:23,120 --> 02:11:24,880
Speaker 9: of Game one of the nineteen ninety World Series is

2503
02:11:24,920 --> 02:11:27,960
Speaker 9: the greatest home run in franchise history. Watching him go

2504
02:11:28,040 --> 02:11:31,160
Speaker 9: over the water Rob will Well Clark Jack Clark of

2505
02:11:31,200 --> 02:11:33,640
Speaker 9: the Cardinals in nineteen eighty seven was a seminal moment

2506
02:11:33,720 --> 02:11:36,280
Speaker 9: of my youth. Eric Davis is the greatest forty four

2507
02:11:36,360 --> 02:11:38,560
Speaker 9: in Red's history. It will take a lot for Elie

2508
02:11:38,600 --> 02:11:40,720
Speaker 9: Tayler Cruz to be more beloved than Eric Davis.

2509
02:11:41,040 --> 02:11:41,400
Speaker 3: Very good.

2510
02:11:41,760 --> 02:11:44,320
Speaker 9: Now there was a time, because I remember everybody loves

2511
02:11:44,400 --> 02:11:47,960
Speaker 9: Eric Davis. Now he was like there were crotchety old

2512
02:11:48,040 --> 02:11:55,080
Speaker 9: men in the late nineteen eighties, and then he went

2513
02:11:55,200 --> 02:11:57,600
Speaker 9: and had this awesome Creek got sick, but had an

2514
02:11:57,600 --> 02:11:59,240
Speaker 9: awesome career with a bunch of different teams, played in

2515
02:11:59,240 --> 02:12:01,280
Speaker 9: a World Series without the Reds. I love her.

2516
02:12:01,320 --> 02:12:03,360
Speaker 3: You're reminded of it because every time Ellie does something,

2517
02:12:03,400 --> 02:12:05,000
Speaker 3: it's like he's the first way to do that since

2518
02:12:05,320 --> 02:12:09,040
Speaker 3: Eric did that. Mullager is next. We are done. Have

2519
02:12:09,120 --> 02:12:11,040
Speaker 3: a great rest of your Tuesday. The Mulwagar Show comes

2520
02:12:11,120 --> 02:12:13,680
Speaker 3: up next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati sports.

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