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Speaker 1: One of the things we say all the time on

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Speaker 1: this show is usually there's room for multiple truths. With

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Speaker 1: the Reds offseason, there's room for multiple truths to the

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Speaker 1: point that they needed to make their offense better so

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Speaker 1: far at least, and so far is key, But so

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Speaker 1: far this off season has been underwhelming. If you went

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Speaker 1: into the off season with visions of Kyle Schwarber dancing

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Speaker 1: get Kyle Schwarber, as disappointing as that was. As disappointing

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Speaker 1: as maybe the Reds pursuit of Kyle Schwarber was the

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Speaker 1: fact that they haven't added a bat, like a real bat,

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Speaker 1: a power bat, a difference making bat is beyond frustrating.

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Speaker 1: We all share that frustration. And if the Reds go

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Speaker 1: to spring training and they haven't added a bat, and

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Speaker 1: the deals sending out Gavin lux would suggest per apps

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Speaker 1: that they're gonna go get a bat, well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the dude was batting third in the playoffs last year.

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Speaker 1: As Tony and Austin mentioned earlier today, if they go

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about a bat better than Dane Meers or J. J. Bleday.

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Speaker 1: That's going to be disappointing. That's very fair to say

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Speaker 1: there's room for multiple truths in this offseason where the

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Speaker 1: Reds offensively haven't gotten any better, where they've stalled, where

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Speaker 1: they didn't get Schwarber, where they've made us wonder why

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Speaker 1: aren't they being more aggressive in finding a bat? What

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Speaker 1: they have done, and what they've done I think pretty

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Speaker 1: well is upgrade their bullpen. So the Gavin lux deal

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Speaker 1: a three team trade, they get brock Burke. Brock Burke

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Speaker 1: He's a ground ball guy. He's not a guy who's

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Speaker 1: good pitcher. They have aggressively, and yes I use that

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Speaker 1: Reds aggressively approached, attacked, addressed one key area of their

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Speaker 1: team with Pierce Johnson good signing, Caleb Ferguson good signing

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Speaker 1: brock Burke good signing. Also, I like the name brock Burke.

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Speaker 1: By the way, this is not insignificant for a couple

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Speaker 1: of different reasons. One is the obvious, right, they needed

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Speaker 1: a better bullpen. They needed a bullpen where I thinking

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Speaker 1: we were lucky. Yesterday we had Emilia Pagan and Andrew

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Speaker 1: And Emilia Pagan is the team's closer. You may not

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Speaker 1: at least so far, doesn't mean you can't look at

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of dudes like brock Burke out there.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys like Caleb Ferguson out there.

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Speaker 1: But you and I both know there have been teams

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Speaker 1: That one, in particular, I feel like a tipping point.

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Speaker 1: Baseball's got a problem. The problem isn't so much the

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Speaker 1: But you and I both know you may feel this way.

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Speaker 1: you bring him back, you're gonna have to pay him

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Speaker 1: more money. They're not gonna have to break the bank

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Speaker 1: for Dalton Reisner. He played well, he wants to be here.

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Speaker 1: There's good chemistry with this offensive line, like don't overthink this,

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Speaker 1: go ahead and get that done. The other one is

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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, Like there's Joe Flacco or I guess maybe

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Speaker 1: Jake Browning or whatever's behind door Number two is backup

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Speaker 1: quarterback now. Obviously, if if things go according to plan

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Speaker 1: next year, Joe Burrow takes every meaningful snap. But even

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Speaker 1: if he does, you'd kind of like to go through

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Speaker 1: the season with as good of an insurance policy as possible.

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Speaker 1: Are there any better who are going to be available

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Speaker 1: as Joe Flacco? I would almost tell Joe Flacco, don't

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Speaker 1: worry about training camp. You kind of prove this year

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Speaker 1: you don't need it. So if hey, man, you want

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Speaker 1: to show up in mid August and get here and

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Speaker 1: kind of you know, play in a preseason game and

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Speaker 1: you know, chip off the dust or chip off the

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Speaker 1: the rust, you know, awesome. But that's a no brainer.

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Speaker 1: Like that, that is Joe Flacco or whatever's behind door

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Speaker 1: number two. Like I know some are going to say, well,

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Speaker 1: he's going to look for a starting job in this league.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Man, Like, if you're Joe Flacco, who

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Speaker 1: has I think stated is a desire to be here?

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Speaker 1: If you're Joe Flacco, do you want to go chase

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Speaker 1: a starting opportunity for a team that the reason why

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Speaker 1: they have a starting opportunity for you is they're so

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Speaker 1: unsettled a quarterback and probably not very good and you're

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Speaker 1: a temporary plays holder for somebody, Or do you want

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Speaker 1: to back up Joe Burrow? And if he plays all

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Speaker 1: seventeen games, you sit. Chances are the Bengals is going

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Speaker 1: to be at least okay next year. And if you

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Speaker 1: do have to play, you get to work in an

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Speaker 1: offense that you already know and throw the ball to

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Speaker 1: dudes who helped you have this career resurgence last year,

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Speaker 1: Jamar Chason T Higgins, like this is one of them.

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Speaker 1: I bring this up as sort of rereading Paul Danner

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Speaker 1: Junior's piece in The Athletic where he goes through all

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Speaker 1: the pending free agents and assigns a percentage as to

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Speaker 1: whether or not they're going to be back, and for

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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco it was thirty three percent. That's, obviously, you know,

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Speaker 1: mostly an inexact sign that Paul's going through here, but

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Speaker 1: he's operating from a place of information, and look, man,

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Speaker 1: among all the different things the Bengals have to do

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Speaker 1: this offseason, backup quarterback should not be close to the

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Speaker 1: top of the list of priorities. So go ahead and

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Speaker 1: make it not a priority at all by bringing back

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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco. Like that's there's a handful of things the

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Speaker 1: Bengals can do this offseason to just make Duke Tobin's

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Speaker 1: job easier. I guess I should say there's a handful

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Speaker 1: of things Duke Tobin can do this offseason, at least

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Speaker 1: at the outset, to make his job easier. One of

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Speaker 1: them is go sign the guard who has said he

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Speaker 1: wants to play for you and who's probably not gonna

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Speaker 1: cost a ton of money. The other is that backup

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Speaker 1: quarterback that won you a football game in prime time

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Speaker 1: when he had been with the team for less than

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Speaker 1: two weeks. Like, let's not overthink this, let's bring back

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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco. Seventeen away from four o'clock five one, three, seven,

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, mo at ESPN fifteen thirty dot com. Seventeen

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Speaker 1: from four o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: You ever jot something down so you remember it, and

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Speaker 1: then you read it later on and you have no

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Speaker 1: idea what you were referring to. I'm just looking at

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Speaker 1: like a page full of notes, and I jotted down

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Speaker 1: Burrow SB storyline. I will assume that SB meant Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl BURROWSB storyline. I have no idea what the hell

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Speaker 1: that was in reference to I wrote it to myself

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Speaker 1: to remind myself to maybe talk about or do something

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Speaker 1: about Burrow Super Bowl storyline. But I have no idea,

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Speaker 1: no remote idea what I'm referring to there. A little

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Speaker 1: bit later on, I'll play for you a cut from

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Speaker 1: Chad Brendel's BCJ podcast he does with Keigan Nicholson with

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Speaker 1: John Cunningham, the director of athletics that you see, and

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Speaker 1: they talked for about ten minutes about the men's basketball program,

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Speaker 1: the noise around it, the on court product. Wes Miller

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Speaker 1: and I thought it was really good. John did not

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Speaker 1: talk like he did not sound like somebody who is

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Speaker 1: worrying about his job. And you know, let's be honest,

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Speaker 1: every time Wes Miller's job status, or anytime we talk

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Speaker 1: about men's basketball and football that you see and the

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Speaker 1: two head coaches, invariably and understandably so, somebody will bring

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Speaker 1: up John Cunningham and whether or not he should be

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Speaker 1: the person to be hiring any replacements with either of

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Speaker 1: those two positions. And it's I like John a lot,

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Speaker 1: but it's a fair question when you have two not

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Speaker 1: exactly popular coaches in your two signature sport and you

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Speaker 1: hired them both. It's going to create questions like that.

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Speaker 1: I listened to the entire thing and it's very, very good.

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Speaker 1: Chad and Keegan are awesome, but he does not sound

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Speaker 1: like somebody who is necessarily feeling the heat as it

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Speaker 1: relates to his own job. I'll have a little bit

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Speaker 1: of that for you a little bit later on. You

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Speaker 1: see and Iowa State tomorrow. The Cyclones were kind of

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Speaker 1: rolled in Lawrence by Kansas the other night. The Bearcats

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Speaker 1: coming off their first big twelve WE win of the

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Speaker 1: season over Colorado, and you know, a step in the

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Speaker 1: right direction. They played better offensively. They executed in ways

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Speaker 1: that they haven't for much of the season, I thought

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Speaker 1: for the first twenty minutes of the game, and it

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Speaker 1: was the best half they have played so far this season.

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Speaker 1: I think if you look at the entire forty minutes,

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Speaker 1: there was a really good thirty to thirty two. They

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Speaker 1: did have somebody make plays last night and day da

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Speaker 1: Thomas and so nowignificant uptick and competition for the Bearcats,

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Speaker 1: one in which offensively you see, is going to have

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Speaker 1: to be probably close to perfect tomorrow. One of the

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Speaker 1: I don't know if this is the right way to

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Speaker 1: put it, But sad things about this season is the

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Speaker 1: Bearcats are nine and eight. They've had a hard time

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Speaker 1: closing out games, and yet defensively they have been good

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Speaker 1: enough all season long. Like your I think for the

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Speaker 1: most part, your your eyeballs have told you that advanced

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Speaker 1: metrics have told you that like they have defended, they

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Speaker 1: are right now ken Palm eighth in the country and

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Speaker 1: adjusted defensive efficiency. Now, you don't need me to tell

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Speaker 1: you that they're rating for offensive efficiency is probably much

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Speaker 1: much lower. Yes, they're two hundred and eighth, but it's

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Speaker 1: like this one. On this one end of the floor,

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Speaker 1: they have been more than good enough to win on

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Speaker 1: more than multiple occasis. And like I get it again, Xavier,

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Speaker 1: they didn't double tray Carroll. That still doesn't make a

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Speaker 1: lot of sense to me. He ends up having a

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Speaker 1: career game. He's the main reason why Xavier wins. But

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Speaker 1: as a general rule, this season, defensively they have been really,

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Speaker 1: really good. And I guess there's the question for the

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Speaker 1: rest of the season as it relates to what they

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Speaker 1: do on the floor. Is there anything that can be

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Speaker 1: done for the offensive end of the floor to catch

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Speaker 1: up with what they are doing on the defensive end

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Speaker 1: where they have been good enough? And is you know

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Speaker 1: Tony asked me earlier on since he three to sixty

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Speaker 1: about the game tomorrow and how the Bearcats pull off

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Speaker 1: an upset and they're six and a half point dogs.

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Speaker 1: I think most are expecting Iowa State to cover that.

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Speaker 1: If Cincinnati wins, my guess is they will win a

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Speaker 1: close game. And you win a close game by executing late,

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Speaker 1: I guess I would wonder against a better team than Colorado,

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Speaker 1: do they execute late? Who gets some buckets? Who can

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Speaker 1: get buckets? When it feels like Iowa State might be

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Speaker 1: on the verge of, you know, kind of running away

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Speaker 1: with things if they go, if they look like they're

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Speaker 1: going to go into ten to nothing, run that sort

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Speaker 1: of thing, who gets buckets? We are still asking that

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Speaker 1: question after they have played seventeen games this season. But

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Speaker 1: you know, the conversation about Wes Miller and the state

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Speaker 1: of the program didn't necessarily change, and understandably so after

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Speaker 1: the Colorado game, all you could hope for is it's

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Speaker 1: the jumping off point. If this team is going to

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Speaker 1: change its narrative, they're going to have to find ways

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Speaker 1: to win games that they're not supposed to everything, advanced metrics,

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Speaker 1: eyeball test, and the Vegas line will tell you they're

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Speaker 1: not supposed to win the game. Tomorrow, we will see.

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Speaker 1: We spent some time yesterday talking about you know, I

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Speaker 1: think the discourse going into the game against Colorado was

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Speaker 1: a misfire because the focus was on something that was

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Speaker 1: never really a thing, which was the bags, fans wearing

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Speaker 1: bags on their heads. And I got some pushback to that, like,

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Speaker 1: it's not pushback to the anger. You'll hear John Cunningham

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Speaker 1: reference what he hears from fans, like, it's not pushback

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Speaker 1: to the anger. There's a lot of anger about the

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Speaker 1: way the season is unfolded, about seven years without an

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Speaker 1: NCAA tournament bid. It was pushback against the idea that

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Speaker 1: one person on one social media account, a widely followed

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Speaker 1: social media account, but still a social media account, was

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Speaker 1: creating something that was actually going to materialize into an

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Speaker 1: actual thing. At the barricat game the other night, nobody

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Speaker 1: haar be it for me to tell anybody to not

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Speaker 1: be upset or angry with what's going on with UC basketball,

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Speaker 1: the booze. I mean, look, I'm sure Wes Miller doesn't

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Speaker 1: like the booze, but I would be willing to bet

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Speaker 1: he'd be the first to tell you like that, that's

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Speaker 1: what comes with not winning, That's what comes with exhausting

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Speaker 1: people's patience. It's not pushed back on the frustration and

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Speaker 1: the anger that people feel. It's not pushed back on

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Speaker 1: the sense of despair the people feel. It's not push

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Speaker 1: back on the belief that a lot of people have

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Speaker 1: that it's time for a new coach. The pushback for

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Speaker 1: me was we no ways say we there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of us, But the way the wear and paper bags

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Speaker 1: thing kind of took on a life of its own

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Speaker 1: to believe that there were actually going to be people

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Speaker 1: who came to the game with bags on their heads.

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Speaker 1: And maybe there would have been a handful. I don't

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Speaker 1: so I think we took one person's social media account,

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Speaker 1: The commentary was about people who do what I do

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Speaker 1: I am thrilled for Travis Steele. Look, man, I'm a

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Speaker 1: UC fan. You know that. I'm guessing Travis knows that

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Speaker 1: I am personally very happy for a guy who has

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Speaker 1: fun to watch. Offensively, they rank as one of the

642
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Speaker 1: best in the sport. So Travis is going to join

643
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Speaker 1: us to talk about that game. Did I just hear

644
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: a spot for the game though? That referred to the

645
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: venue the game is being played at as Millet Hall?

646
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Speaker 1: Is that something my did? My ears hear that correctly?

647
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: I haven't felt great this week, so maybe not, Tarn.

648
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: Can you go back and find that it's Mallett Hall

649
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: has been around forever. I'm not sure, Nippert Stadium being

650
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 1: an obvious exception. I'm not sure there are many sports

651
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: venues in this area that have been around longer than

652
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: Mallett Hall. Give it to me this Saturday at one

653
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: pm inside Millet Hall the Red Hawk. Come on, man, come,

654
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: who did that? Who's who's putting the commercial together that

655
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Speaker 1: refers to it as Millet Hall? I will can I

656
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Speaker 1: I'll revoice the spot for him. I'll do it. The

657
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: thing is, it's four oh six on Friday. We probably

658
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:28,919
Speaker 1: the game is tomorrow, so it's you know, it's it's

659
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: it's hard enough. It's hard enough, man like, and I

660
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: you know, think Travis would be the first to admit

661
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: this part of that job is you gotta get people

662
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: to come to games. And and you know, Miami basketball

663
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: this century, we'll call it what it is, hasn't been great,

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Speaker 1: and so folks get out of the habit of going

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Speaker 1: to games. When I was in college, I went to

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Speaker 1: Mallett Hall and I watched Miami Dayton games and when

667
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: Xavier and Miami would still play against each other. I

668
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: remember going to a game with my dad at Mallett

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Speaker 1: Hall in December of nineteen and this is the year

670
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Speaker 1: after they go to the Sweet sixteen. Wally's RBA can

671
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: obviously gone to the NBA, so but there was still

672
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: some punch to the program, and you know, playing playing

673
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: games against local schools. But like Mallette Hall was was

674
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: an awesome atmosphere. It was great. And this century, you know,

675
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: m you just there haven't been a lot of great

676
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: teams that year, and so folks maybe have gotten out

677
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: of the habit of going And I get it. Getting

678
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 1: to Oxford if you live in Cincinnati, people talk about

679
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: it like it's it's driving to Alaska or something. It

680
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: ain't that hard, but it's it's a hard it's a

681
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: tough putt like I get it. Every Miami coach that

682
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,479
Speaker 1: has taken over that program since Charlie Coles, god rest

683
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: his soul, has has had to deal with like getting

684
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: fans to come to games. It's hard enough. The commercial

685
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Speaker 1: for the game could at least pronounce the arena's name correctly.

686
00:40:52,040 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: It's Mallette Hall. Milett All has been around since like

687
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Speaker 1: nineteen sixty five. It's been around since the sixties. And

688
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: you know, unfortunately it looks like a plays that was

689
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:16,479
Speaker 1: built in the nineteen sixties but been around for long

690
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: enough for I don't know if that's I don't know

691
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Speaker 1: who I have. Then AI Voice, which you know, oh what,

692
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: I've been a guaranteed human. If you're gonna use the

693
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Speaker 1: AI voice, train the AI voice to say the name

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Speaker 1: of the sports venue correctly. There you go, There you go,

695
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Speaker 1: eight minutes after four o'clock. What do you think Travis

696
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: Steele will say if when he comes on the show,

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00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: I talk about tomorrow's game at Millet Hall? What we

698
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:52,919
Speaker 1: what we doing? I got an email here from Jim

699
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Speaker 1: who says I've had an epiphany as it relates to

700
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: baseball in a salary cap. It's not an epiphany, man,

701
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: like I just there's my basic philosophies, which are open market,

702
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: no caps on salaries. That's a sports thing, it's a

703
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: non sports thing. There's also the reality of people's relationship

704
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: with the sport, which is deteriorating in a lot of markets.

705
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: I also think this man like we, you will hear

706
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: people make excuses for the Reds for decades of not

707
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: being that relevant, and what they will do when they

708
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: make excuses for the Reds is talk about the the

709
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: troubles that small market teams have. There are no shortage

710
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Speaker 1: of people who when a red season goes awry, or

711
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: when the Reds during an offseason don't spend a lot

712
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Speaker 1: of money or don't increase the payroll. We'll talk about

713
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: baseball's economic model. And yes, the Reds from a financial

714
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 1: standpoint are not in the same ballpark as the La Dodgers.

715
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: That doesn't excuse, you know, decades worth of not producing

716
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: consistently big league caliber players, doesn't excuse a lot of

717
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: on field issues they've had. And at some point when

718
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: you haven't advanced in the postseason for thirty years, and

719
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: a lot of other small market teams have not only

720
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Speaker 1: advanced in the postseason, but they've won World Series titles. Sorry, man,

721
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: they figure it out. You can't. The Milwaukee Brewers are

722
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,959
Speaker 1: good every single year. The Reds were okay last year.

723
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: But that's the team you should be trying to emulate.

724
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: That's the team you should be trying to beat. But

725
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: I do believe this. It's not that unlike college football

726
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: and basketball coaches, where the small market thing is a

727
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: built in excuse. I mentioned college football and basketball coaches

728
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 1: because one of the things for me that I don't

729
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: love about the NIL era. And again, I want everybody

730
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: to get paid. Not gonna play about NIL, but I

731
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: I feel like it's it's given bad coaches an excuse,

732
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: like it's it's given bad coaches something to fall back on.

733
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: Team's not very good, well, I need more money. Team underperforms, well, hey,

734
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: I can only work with what we can afford, right,

735
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: And I do think you hear this around the country

736
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: when a season doesn't go quite as well, Instantly it's

737
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 1: we need more money. Even when a team performs well,

738
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: even when a coach is doing a good job. Like,

739
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: I get it. They obviously want as much money as

740
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: possible to buy the best possible players. But I I

741
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: sort of feel like nil in college sports have given

742
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: coaches a bailout, an excuse. Hey, it's not the coaching,

743
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: it's not me. It's not how I coach this team.

744
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: It's not how I maybe didn't connect with these players.

745
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: It's hey, this is all we can afford. I would

746
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: do better if we can afford better players, So give

747
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: us more money. I want to eliminate excuses. So I

748
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: think about base economics. I want to eliminate excuses. I

749
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: want to give fans a chance to feel like, you

750
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: know what, if we're well run and we do all

751
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: the right things, and we're good at player development, and

752
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: we make smart acquisitions, our team could be good every

753
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: single year. Our team could matter at least every single year.

754
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: I want to get rid of the excuses. I want

755
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: to take away from owners. I want to take away

756
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: from front office people, the built in excuse of it's economics. Man,

757
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: we just pull out our empty pockets. We don't have money.

758
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: That's among the many reasons I'd love to see a

759
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: redo when it comes to baseball's economics. But again, the

760
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: hard part is this, in the history of baseball labor negotiations,

761
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: what owners really have wanted for decades they never get

762
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: The players Union does not back down. They do not cave.

763
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: They have in the past taken whatever public hits have

764
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: come their way. They have never caved on this issue.

765
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: And so to get them to cave on this issue,

766
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna have to draw them out for a

767
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:17,439
Speaker 1: very long time. The ninety four player strike felt like forever, right,

768
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: canceled the season, canceled the World Series, delayed the start

769
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: of the nineteen ninety five season. That workstopage felt like forever.

770
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,919
Speaker 1: In real time, it certainly did. Was like seven months long.

771
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: It's like seven months long. And so you're probably gonna

772
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: have to go longer than seven months to get the

773
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:42,280
Speaker 1: players to cave. So if the CBA expires on December

774
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: the first, and you go seven months from then, well

775
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: that takes it into the middle of the summer of

776
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven. Probably gonna have to go longer than

777
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: that historically speaking, to get the players to cave. And

778
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: so like again, like here's the issue. It's for this

779
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: h ort to have a better model and for the

780
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: sport to achieve what so many wanted to achieve. Like

781
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: I believe fans really like the on field product. On

782
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: field product is I mentioned this last hour has been

783
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 1: It's been made better by Rob Manfred and it pains

784
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: me to say that because I think he's a goof.

785
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 1: But the pitch clock, getting rid of the shifts, limiting

786
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: the pickoff throws, even the magic runner role and extra innings,

787
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: which I do not like. They've made the on field product,

788
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: the television product better, and that's probably the most important thing.

789
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: But you still have people who feel like, all right,

790
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: you made the game shorter. You've done some really good

791
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 1: things to make the on field product more appealing. You've

792
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: added playoff teams, which is opposed to though it doesn't,

793
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: but it's supposed to create more interest in the playoff

794
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: race in more cities. I still feel like my team

795
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: doesn't have a chance to win. In large swaths of

796
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: this country, baseball fans feel like their team has no

797
00:47:56,080 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 1: chance to win. In order for that to change, the

798
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: game's gonna have to go away. And if you think

799
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 1: about that for a second, like, all right, we had

800
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: the ninety four player strike and that's stunk. Can you

801
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: imagine possibly an entire year without a baseball season, like

802
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: even COVID, Right, we got baseball starting on I think

803
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: it was July twenty fourth, and you know, extraordinary set

804
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: of circumstances, right, we had no baseball for three months

805
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: and no anything for three months. Can you imagine? And

806
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 1: sports have gone away? Hockey did it in mid two thousands. Again, man,

807
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: I think that Kyle Tucker thing. And I don't blame

808
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: the Dodgers at all. Like they're everybody's operating under the

809
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: agreed upon rules. Be mad at the owners who don't spend,

810
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: don't be mad at the ones who do. They had

811
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: the resources, They're doing what's allowed. No issue with it.

812
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: But with every single one of these additions they make

813
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: you have more and more people who just throw up

814
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: their hands and go, my team can't compete. If my

815
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: team can't compete, why should I care as much? That

816
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: is a deep rooted problem in this sport. And it

817
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 1: also gives owners. It gives them an excuse. Well, I

818
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: can't win because I wouldn't get rid of the excuses.

819
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: I want more people to care about the sport. It's

820
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 1: gonna have to go away for that to happen. Unfortunately,

821
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Speaker 1: sixteen after four o'clock at mulllegar on Twitter five point

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00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: three seven four nine fifteen thirty will get you in.

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Speaker 1: Travis Steel's gonna join us to talk about his RedHawks,

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00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: who are eighteen and zero. They played tomorrow at Malett Hall.

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00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 1: That is coming up at about fifteen minutes on ESPN

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Speaker 1: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station twenty two after four o'clock.

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Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Maleger. If you missed earlier

828
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Speaker 1: this week TJ Friedel on our show. He was terrific,

829
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: as were Emelio Pagan and Andrew Abbott. They got a

830
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: very nice text from a well respected journalist in this

831
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: town who told me that they really enjoyed that interview

832
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: with Amelio Pagan and Andrew Abbott, and I appreciated that.

833
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Speaker 1: Don't get that. I don't get many many compliments, compliments

834
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: at all because I don't deserve them. But when I

835
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: get them, they rarely come from well respected journalists. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: it was. It made my day. So if you missed

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Speaker 1: that conversation, if you missed TJ. Friedel, if you missed

838
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: anything on this show, you can go listen to all

839
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: that stuff and so much more on the iHeartRadio app

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Speaker 1: and also on the podcast page of ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 1: Neck Sports Grill. By the way, the new Hebrew location

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Speaker 1: will be open soon. I can't wait for that. If

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Speaker 1: you're looking for a place to watch all the college

845
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: basketball this weekend, the NFL playoffs Monday nights college football

846
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: National Championship game, go watch all that stuff at long

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Speaker 1: Neck Sports Girl, Wilder, Hebron and Richwood twenty three after

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Speaker 1: four o'clock. Uh, Scott in Dayton, you're on ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 1: thirty Scott, good afternoon. How are you.

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Speaker 3: Are you there?

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Speaker 1: I'm there, I'm here. Are you there?

852
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 2: Oh?

853
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 3: You went away for a minute. I don't know if

854
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 3: that was my cell phone or not. I am not

855
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 3: a well respected journalist at all, but I too enjoyed.

856
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: Well that's kind of you. Thank you.

857
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so I do have to bust your chops

858
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 3: just a little bit, although I thought the same thing.

859
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 3: I'm thinking. This is Miami advertising their own product and

860
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 3: miss mispronouncing their own hall's name.

861
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't I don't know. I don't know

862
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 1: why that happened.

863
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 3: So here's the busting of your top up. In your

864
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 3: sports brief, before you mentioned that the Flyers were on

865
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 3: the road, did.

866
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: I say that not? They're not on the road to night.

867
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 1: Did I say they're on the road tonight, Yes, they're

868
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: they're home for Loyal to Chicago.

869
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 3: Yes they only beat them by two this last time,

870
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 3: just out of curiosity. You guys do a great job

871
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 3: of you know, but you always include Lexington Louisville. And

872
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 3: it's not, of course not you because it's your home motor.

873
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 3: But we rarely get anything beauty wise on the station,

874
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 3: and we're like forty five minutes away, whereas Louisville.

875
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: What do you mean, like in terms of game coverage.

876
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 3: No, not not game coverage, just acknowledge it. Just you know,

877
00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 3: you talk about Mollett or talk about Miami RedHawks, and

878
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 3: UDI generally speaking doesn't get much of a mention on

879
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 3: the radio.

880
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: I can't speak for other shows. I know Lance mc

881
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: Lance McCallister probably does as much UDI stuff as I do,

882
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: and honestly, like it makes sense the reach of his

883
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: show and that radio station pointing north is greater than

884
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: this one quite frankly, But I mean, I can't speak

885
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: for anybody else, but I think on this show and

886
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: on Lanson's show, the University of Dayton is obviously never

887
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: going to be talked about or covered as much as

888
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: Cincinnati or Xavier, but it does not get ignored on

889
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: my show. And I could tell you as just as

890
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: a listener of Lanson's show. I don't know that Tony

891
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 1: and Austin spend as much time on Dayton as maybe

892
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: they should, but that is perhaps something you should take

893
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: up with them.

894
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 3: Well again, it should, isn't probable the right word I

895
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 3: just was referring to. It's kind of an anomaly that

896
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 3: Lexington Louisville gets a lot of a lot probably not

897
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 3: the right word, but it gets more coverage than UD does,

898
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 3: and udis a lot closer I think even.

899
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: Huh, there's more Kentucky. There's more Kentucky fans in our

900
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,280
Speaker 1: audience and Dayton fans.

901
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. So I just had to call and

902
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 3: tell you that UD was not on the road.

903
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 1: Now they're at home tonight. I misspoke. They are home

904
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: for the for loyal of Chicago. I only know that

905
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 1: because I was actually offered a ticket to that game tonight,

906
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: but I cannot go. So, oh, that's too bad.

907
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 3: One of love to have you in the house. My

908
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 3: son is involved with Lee's and I'm sure you've seen

909
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 3: the chicken promotion that they do, and I think that

910
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 3: that's a really cool a thing that is done at ud.

911
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I try to take my daughter to a

912
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: game every year because I, you know, working UC games,

913
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: I can't take her at it. So I try to

914
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: take her to a Dayton game every year. And it

915
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: hasn't worked out this season. I hold out hope that

916
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: it will, but we will see. It was not in

917
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: the cards tonight, but I hope that it happens at

918
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 1: some point this year.

919
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 3: Cool, Well, you have a trivier weekend.

920
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,760
Speaker 1: I'll do my best. Scott. Thank you, Thank you so much,

921
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Yeah, there's more Kentucky fans than

922
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 1: Dayton fans. I am a proud, proud alum of the

923
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: University of Dayton. I am willing to admit that. Man,

924
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: I can't speak to anybody else. I'll also say like

925
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: there have been there have been a handful of times,

926
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: and it's not been recently. There have been a handful

927
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: of times where we've tried to get somebody from ud

928
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: ON and we've been met with resistance, which is personally

929
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,240
Speaker 1: frustrating for me because I did go there. But whatever,

930
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: twenty eight minutes after four o'clock, no resistance from Miami

931
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: University when we as to have Travis Steel on the show.

932
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: He'll join us next on ESPN fifteen thirty h twenty

933
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 1: seven away from five o'clock. This is Esken fifteen thirty

934
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: on Oleger. The Miami University RedHawks look for a nineteenth

935
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: consecutive victory to open up the season tomorrow at Malette

936
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: Hall against Buffalo. That game is going to tip off

937
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 1: at one o'clock. Travis Steele's team just on the outside

938
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: looking into the ap Top twenty five men's college Basketball poll,

939
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: and perhaps with a victory they can find themselves with

940
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,919
Speaker 1: a number next to their name on Monday. The head

941
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: coach of the RedHawks kind enough on the afternoon before

942
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: a game to join us. Coach Steele, It's always awesome

943
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 1: to have you. Good afternoon. How are you.

944
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 2: I'm doing well, mo, Thanks for having me on.

945
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 1: Always love having you. We talked a year ago. You

946
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 1: guys were on your way to to a season and

947
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: you know, we know how it ended. You came within

948
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 1: an eyelash of making the NCAA tournament, but you win

949
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: twenty fives this offseason. You're gonna start the season by

950
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: bringing back ten players from last year's team. So I'm

951
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 1: guessing you thought you had a chance for a good squad.

952
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: What about this team this year has surprised you? Though?

953
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mo, you said it, And I think how we

954
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 2: lost last year? You know, we won twenty five games,

955
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 2: had a great year single season record at Miami for

956
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 2: wins the season, but we did we came in I

957
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 2: lash away from the Nimble Tournament. I think how we

958
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 2: lost really impacted our offseason in a great way. You know,

959
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 2: we've used the slogan unfinished business a lot with our guys,

960
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 2: and I think our guys had a purpose right right

961
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 2: from the jump in the spring, the summer to the fall,

962
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 2: where I knew we had a chance to be a really,

963
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 2: really really good team, especially as you know, like in

964
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 2: this landscape, the retention is hard to find at times,

965
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 2: and we only had to bring in one out of

966
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 2: the transfer portal. We still recruit a lot of high

967
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 2: school We do have five freshmen, but we were able

968
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 2: to retain a good bulk of our roster from last

969
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 2: year's team, which has been huge in our success this year.

970
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: How old school does that, feeld? I mean, it's it's

971
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: such an outlier, right, Like I feel like I'm following

972
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: a program from another lifetime ago with all those guys

973
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: coming back from one year to the next.

974
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's unique. You know, you don't see it very

975
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 2: often in today's landscape, but I you know, I'm still

976
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 2: holding on to that, you know, in a lot of ways.

977
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 2: And you have to address Listen, We'll go to the

978
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 2: portal if we need to, but I think it's still

979
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 2: we really believe in player development and personal development, and

980
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 2: that's our mission here in our program. And you look

981
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 2: at a guy like Ian Elmer, Evan Ipsar or two

982
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 2: Cincinnati guys that are now juniors, and they're so much

983
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,439
Speaker 2: better than they were when they walked in, and I'm

984
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 2: so proud of them. But they have a true love

985
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 2: for each other too, because they're not just with each

986
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 2: other for one year, and they've been with each other

987
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 2: for multiple years. So they really have that those deep

988
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 2: seated relationships, which I think really shows of how we

989
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 2: play on both ends of the floor.

990
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: It feels to me, and you know, you talk about

991
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 1: how last season ended, and so I think it's human

992
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: nature to always have an eye on March on the

993
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: Mac tournament, right, because that's ultimately going to define whether

994
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: or not. You play in the NCAA tournament, right, and

995
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: then in the middle of all that, you're undefeated. So

996
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: there's a lot swirling around your program. How do you

997
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: keep these guys focused?

998
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 2: You know, we just focused on the process. MO Like

999
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 2: it's you know, I've told our guys I could care

1000
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 2: less about our record. I really don't care. I mean,

1001
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 2: I'm glad that we're winning. We want to win every game,

1002
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 2: but it's about are we going to play our best

1003
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 2: in March? Can we peak at the right time. We're

1004
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 2: obsessed with trajectory, and our guys know we use a

1005
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 2: lot of analytical data to be able to showcase, Hey,

1006
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 2: are we growing in the right direction?

1007
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 4: Are we not?

1008
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 2: And our guys process day to day is so elite. Well,

1009
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 2: we haven't had one bad practice all year, which is amazing,

1010
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 2: and I think that speaks fallways to the character we

1011
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 2: have in our locker room and just the player leadership

1012
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 2: that we have. Man, it's it's elite and it just

1013
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 2: guides us in the right direction every day.

1014
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: Uh, you're asked a lot about your schedule. You do

1015
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: not have to defend it. You play who's willing to

1016
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: play you Have you thought though, like with your success

1017
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: this year, those phone calls to other programs about finding

1018
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: games are going to be even more difficult this offseason.

1019
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's probably gonna be hard, you know, like it

1020
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 2: is what it is, you know, And I listen, And

1021
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 2: I don't blame some of the Power five schools for

1022
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 2: not playings. You know, I know that they're supposed to

1023
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 2: stay away from quad two, Quad three games. They're supposed

1024
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 2: to only do quad one and quad fours. That's what

1025
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 2: the net that the NBA uses, right, That's what they

1026
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 2: want you to play. That's at the advantage show school.

1027
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 2: So I totally get it. I wish they would change

1028
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 2: that equation. The help was school like us out.

1029
01:00:58,200 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 1: But I do.

1030
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 2: I thought her, I shud sign a respect. We got

1031
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 2: to figure it out, and I think we'll be in

1032
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 2: a better position next year. Maybe schedule WHT because we

1033
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 2: are moving from eighteen to twenty two back conference games,

1034
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 2: so that'll help alleviate our non conference schedule a little bit.

1035
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 2: But I'm hoping. I mean, I got a couple of

1036
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 2: calls in a couple buddies, am I trying to plead

1037
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 2: with it to at least play us, you know at

1038
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 2: a P five just so we can give our guys

1039
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 2: that experience, you know, like I would love to do it.

1040
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 2: I mean I would love if we can.

1041
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 1: We're trying, well, I mean that's the thing, Like, you

1042
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: can only be so creative. So does it come down

1043
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 1: to simply like reaching out to people you know in

1044
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: the business and go, look, man, I've done this for

1045
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: a while. My program deserves it. Give us a shot.

1046
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 1: Is it just as simple as that.

1047
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I know they're going to say, well, the

1048
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 2: numbers say not to play you guys, and everybody's using

1049
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 2: analytical data. I love analytical data, but I don't like

1050
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 2: that analytical data right, Like I don't like it for scheduling.

1051
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 2: But I like Kelvin Sampson for example, Like I have

1052
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 2: a ton of respect for him and I worked for

1053
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 2: him in Indiana and he'll play anybody. I would say, I

1054
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 2: think he'll play us next year. I'm hoping, you know, again,

1055
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 2: he's got a great program. They don't be there. They're

1056
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,919
Speaker 2: a top five program in the country, if not top three.

1057
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 2: Maybe the consistency that they've had that he's been there

1058
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 2: has been incredible. But but we're trying, I know this.

1059
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 2: We are calling everybody to see, uh, say we can

1060
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 2: get it done.

1061
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine. I can't even imagine what those

1062
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 1: conversations are like. Travis Steel is with US Miami hosting

1063
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 1: Buffalo tomorrow one o'clock at Malette Hall. Uh. You we've

1064
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: been tracking the number of votes you guys have gotten,

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Speaker 1: uh since you since you started getting them a few

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Speaker 1: weeks ago. And you know, I'm watching Scott Van Pelt

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Speaker 1: on Sports Center. I know you saw it making the

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01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 1: case for Miami to be ranked, and you're focused on

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01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 1: the basketball part of it. You're you're focused on the opponent.

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01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 1: You're guys having great practices. But like for for all

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01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: of Miami's history, there have only been seven weeks where

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Speaker 1: the RedHawks have been ranked in the AP top twenty five.

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Speaker 1: So if you win tomorrow, and if you keep winning,

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Speaker 1: at some point, you're going to be in the top

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Speaker 1: twenty five. What will it mean to have that number

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Speaker 1: next to Miami in that poll? If and when it happens.

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Speaker 2: Well, I just think it shows the growth that we've made.

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01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 2: You know, when we took over here three and a

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01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 2: half years ago, we were really, really, really far away

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Speaker 2: from being a reality. And to see us that we're

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Speaker 2: that close man, it's it's nice to get recognition, and

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01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 2: I would love it for our university, for our men's

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01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 2: basketball program, for all the former alumni, the former players.

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Speaker 2: But we got to focus on the things we can

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01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 2: control too, right Like. We can't control that. We can

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01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 2: only control our day to day, our process, and you know,

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01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 2: but it does. I will say you this though, I

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01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 2: think you know. I'm always trying to find ways to

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01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 2: motivate your guys, right like, because it is in the

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01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 2: long season. It's a long journey. We have. We have

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Speaker 2: a lot of guys in our locker room that have

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01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 2: that have a chip on their shoulders, a massive chip,

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01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 2: and who were told that they weren't good enough at

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01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 2: one point for this, at that and all this stuff. Listen,

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01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 2: we have a lot to proof, we have a lot

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Speaker 2: to prove. We have unfinished business and that and obviously

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Speaker 2: I hopefully this is all ride all the way through

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Speaker 2: the market. We can peak at the right time.

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Speaker 1: I hope.

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 1: I know you've got a one o'clock tip off tomorrow,

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01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 1: so a lot on your plate. I am. I'm root

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Speaker 1: like heck for you, man. I have said this at

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01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 1: the top of our show. You have always been so

1105
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 1: good to our show in circumstances that at times haven't

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01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 1: been awesome. So I'm rooting for you. I hope you

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Speaker 1: get a win tomorrow. I want to see you guys

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Speaker 1: ranked best of luck the rest of the season. And

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Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough for doing this. Means a lot,

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Speaker 1: Thanks so.

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01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 2: Much, Thanks Moe.

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Speaker 1: You got it. Travis Steel, head, coach of the Miami RedHawks,

1113
01:04:54,720 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: tomorrow one o'clock against Buffalo, you know, one of three

1114
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 1: undefeated teams in the sport. The longer it continues, the

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01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 1: sillier the voters are gonna look for not putting him

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01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: in the AP Top twenty five. And I look, Travis

1117
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 1: is right. You can't blame Power five coaches for not

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01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: wanting to schedule them. And everybody's gonna do what's right

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01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 1: by their program, and they've they've got to operate within

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Speaker 1: the parameters that the metrics say you should operate within.

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Speaker 1: But holy hell, at some point you want to see

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01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 1: him get a chance to play quote high major competition.

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Speaker 1: They can if they get to the NCAA tournament. It's

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Speaker 1: fun ride. And you know that program. We've talked about

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Speaker 1: it a lot here, largely, and I hate to say this,

1126
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 1: largely dormant relative to the nineties for much of this century.

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01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 1: It's it's fun to see that program back. It's fun

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01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 1: to see that program in the conversation for a regular

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Speaker 1: season championship. They were this close after losing by two

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01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: in the MAC Tournament title game to Acron last year.

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01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: It would be awesome to see the RedHawks not only

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01:05:56,680 --> 01:06:00,040
Speaker 1: finish off a great regular season, but have Miami on

1133
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 1: on the screen on Selection Sunday after winning the MAC Tournament.

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Speaker 1: And hopefully that happens. And I mean Travis Steele, you know,

1135
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 1: has been on our show a bunch of times, and

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01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 1: it came on during some stretches when he was coaching

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01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 1: e Xavier where it wasn't going great and has always

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Speaker 1: been kind to us, and so I'm rooting like hell

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01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 1: for him. It's fun that Miami is good and hopefully,

1140
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 1: hopefully interest continuents, hopefully, you know, I know, getting folks

1141
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 1: to come to Mallett Hall has been a quandary for

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01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 1: a lot of coaches of that program. Hopefully, as excitement builds,

1143
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: attendance grows. And I hope that for Travis, hope that

1144
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:41,919
Speaker 1: for the school, hope that for a lumps and hope

1145
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: that for his players. It is sixteen away from five o'clock.

1146
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 1: I did not do sports headlines. Let's do it now.

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01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 1: Thanks to Kelsey chevrole at home of lifetime powertrain protection

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Speaker 1: and guaranteed credit approval from their family, the yours for

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Speaker 1: life kelseyshev dot com, Red's made it official today. The

1150
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 1: acquisition left He brought Burke from the Angels, part of

1151
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 1: a three team deal that sent Gavin Lux to the

1152
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Rays. Burke had an ERA of three to

1153
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 1: three six last year career high sixty nine appearances in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. He is the newest Reds acquisition, along

1155
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 1: with minor league Righty Dusty Davis, who was a Dusty Reevs.

1156
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 1: Not Dusty Reeves, Dusty Reeves. You ever had a Dusty

1157
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 1: Reeves Dusty Reeves? Alrighty. He was picked up by the

1158
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 1: Reds from the Mariners in exchange for Righty yazar Zueleta,

1159
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 1: who had been dfaed by the Reds earlier in the day. Yes,

1160
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 1: excuse me, Reds Fast is happening this weekend at the

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01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Convention Center. Doors are open and Reds Fest is

1162
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Speaker 1: happening right now, and it's a lot of fun college basketball. Tonight,

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01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 1: Dayton hosts Loyola of Chicaga. Eight thirty Flyers have won

1164
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: four straight all in the eight ten. Tip off at

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01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 1: eight thirty. Tomorrow, Kentucky's at number twenty four Tennis. UCLA's

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01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 1: at Ohio State. The aforementioned Miami RedHawks are hosting Buffalo.

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01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 1: Those two games at one o'clock, the UK game at noon.

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Speaker 1: Pregame at ten thirty on ESPN fifteen thirty. Cincinnati will

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01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 1: host second rated Iowa State. The Bearcats coming off their

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01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 1: first Big twelve win of the season, Iowa State coming

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Speaker 1: off their first loss of the season. Tip Off at

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Speaker 1: two pregame one thirty, seven hundred WLW. Indiana will host Iowa.

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01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 1: Also tomorrow, it's a nku A home game against Robert Morris.

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Speaker 1: That game's also on ESPN fifteen thirty, tipping off at

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01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 1: seven pm. The NFL Divisional Round is this weekend. I

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01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 1: don't know why we don't call them the conference semifinals,

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Speaker 1: so I will. The NFL Conference Semifinals are this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Buffalo's at Denver, San Francisco and Seattle. Tomorrow. On Sunday,

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Speaker 1: Houston's at New England. Rams are in Chicago to take

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Speaker 1: on the Bears. All four of those games can be

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01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 1: heard on seven hundred WLW. Cyclones play tonight, It's Grateful

1182
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 1: dead Night at the Arena down ten puck drops at

1183
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 1: seven thirty. Cincinnati hosting Rapid City tonight at seven and

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Speaker 1: tomorrow at four pm. It is fourteen away from five

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Speaker 1: o'clock on moegor thank you for listening today. This is

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01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati sports station. Playoff Tilts this weekend.

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01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,680
Speaker 1: That's what's happening. You could listen to them down the

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01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 1: hall on seven hundred WLW. Not that anythink anybody necessarily cares.

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Speaker 1: I like Denver this weekend, Like Chicago, Denver on the

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Speaker 1: money line. I like Chicago, although that line has flipped.

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01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 1: Denver Buffalo. Buffalo opened his favorites. Last I looked, which

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01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 1: was late this morning, Denver was laying a point and

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Speaker 1: a half. I think I'll do that. Do have them

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01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 1: on the money line. What else? I like Chicago getting

1195
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 1: the three and a half, Seattle San Francisco the spread,

1196
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 1: and that one's a little bit of a stay away

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01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 1: for me, especially with the Darnold uncertainty. But I think

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01:09:58,120 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: the under has been in play for me. Is the

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Speaker 1: since we saw it that that's what that matchup was

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Speaker 1: going to be in and sane. Frankly for the Texans

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01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:10,839
Speaker 1: and New England Patriots. I think that's the most interesting

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01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 1: game of the weekend for what it's worth, Not that

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01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 1: anybody necessarily cares about my opinion, because Houston's defense travels.

1204
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 1: Houston's defense like, all right, Aaron Rodgers is immobile. But

1205
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 1: they they they got to them with four. They don't

1206
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:29,839
Speaker 1: necessarily necessarily have a lot of bells and whistles on defense.

1207
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Speaker 1: I'm kind of curious to see whether New England's offense

1208
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 1: can be a little bit less punchless than it was

1209
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 1: against against the Chargers. That's a bad football game. I

1210
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 1: mean that that that Chargers Patriots game on Sunday night

1211
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 1: was a bad football game. New England's performance. It's a

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Speaker 1: playoff game. All that matters is do you advance? They

1213
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,719
Speaker 1: need to be better. And then there's the Texans offense

1214
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 1: because CJ. Stroud simply cannot be as bad as as

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Speaker 1: much as the Texans may lean on Woody Marks, who's

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Speaker 1: a player that I love. CJ. Stroud at times looked

1217
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 1: like a dude against the Steelers on Monday Night. Who

1218
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 1: was you know, throwing the game. I don't say that

1219
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 1: in any seriousness, but it illustrates how bad he was.

1220
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 1: He has to be better. All four games again this

1221
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Speaker 1: weekend on seven hundred w l W. A few other

1222
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Speaker 1: Bengals things coming up in the next hour. I think

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Speaker 1: I have I think I have remembered what I was

1224
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 1: getting at when I wrote down burrow SB storylines. This

1225
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 1: is what it is. So Joe Burrow has had some

1226
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 1: things to say, and you know, toward the end of

1227
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Speaker 1: the season, the unending Joe Burrow psychoanalysis got fatiguing as

1228
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Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, and he talked at the end

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Speaker 1: of the season about things needing to change, and you know,

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01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 1: there was no bombshell in terms of, you know, a

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01:11:57,640 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 1: player that he is banging on the table to have

1232
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Speaker 1: back that sort of thing like there was a year ago.

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Speaker 1: But a year ago, you know, Joe Burrow says what

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01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 1: he says about T Higgins after the Bengals won a

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Speaker 1: Monday Night football game in December, and then pretty much

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Speaker 1: every other time he talked with the media after that

1237
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 1: Monday Night football game until the season ended, he talked

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Speaker 1: about t Higgins and then the Bengals season ended and

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01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow went away. But then the Super Bowl got here,

1240
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 1: and Joe went on every show to talk about T

1241
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 1: Higgins and Trey Hendrickson. We had a field day with it.

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Speaker 1: It was great. It was free content. Joe going to

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01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 1: Radio Row, Joe going on you know, the larger national platforms,

1244
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 1: and you could certainly understand why he would be a

1245
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 1: coveted guest doing the plug for god knows what and

1246
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 1: then invariably asked questions about the Bengals and asked questions

1247
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 1: about T Higgins. I think in a couple of weeks,

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Speaker 1: when it's it's it's time for the Super Bowl and

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01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 1: Radio Row at the Super Bowl and all the different

1250
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 1: interviews from the Super Bowl that Joe Burrow may do,

1251
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 1: it's going to be interest to see the questions he gets.

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01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 1: A year ago, he was being asked specifically about T

1253
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 1: Higgins and then, maybe to a slightly lesser degree, Trey Hendrickson,

1254
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 1: and he answered those questions. I think, matter of factly,

1255
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 1: this year, you know what the questions are gonna be about.

1256
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:21,560
Speaker 1: They're gonna be about the relationship between him and the team.

1257
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 1: They're gonna be about where he is in his career

1258
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 1: and how he feels about where where he's playing right now,

1259
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 1: it's gonna be about the Bengals bringing back status quo.

1260
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Speaker 1: And I think the thing about Joe is like he

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01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 1: speaks honestly, and he speaks from the heart, and if

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Speaker 1: you ask him a, you know, a legitimate question, He's

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01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:42,640
Speaker 1: gonna give you a legitimate answer, and it might not

1264
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 1: be explosive, it might not be necessarily with the intention

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01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 1: of dropping a bombshell. I think Joe Burrow at the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl is gonna be worth paying attention to. That's

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Speaker 1: I jotted that down. That's what I meant.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And you know, maybe maybe he and his advisors or

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Speaker 1: tea decide, you know what, we're not going to go

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Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. We're not gonna pitch a bunch

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Speaker 1: of products, and we're not gonna go to a bunch

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Speaker 1: of shows. And perhaps, but I don't know. My guess

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01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 1: is we see Joe pop up somewhere, and when he does,

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01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 1: given the fact that he and his career have been

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Speaker 1: such a talking point, He's going to be asked a

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Speaker 1: lot of questions and it will be interesting to hear

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Speaker 1: the responses. Coming up on five o'clock an hour ago

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Speaker 1: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports date Bonness, he said,

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Speaker 1: three minutes after five, this is ESPN fifteen thirty. Thanks

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01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:37,799
Speaker 1: for listening. It's five o'clock on Friday. Hopefully your weekend

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01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 1: is underway. Hopefully it's off to a great start. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for listening, and if you have listened

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Speaker 1: throughout the course of the week. I've said this a

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01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 1: few different times. I feel pretty good today. I wasn't

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Speaker 1: myself earlier this week. We'll just put it that way

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01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 1: from a physical perspective, And so thanks for putting up

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01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 1: with all of that. We have folks waiting. We're not

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Speaker 1: opposed to start the hour by taking phone calls. We're not.

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01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 1: The sports talk Radio Handbook, which has evolved over the years,

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01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 1: still says don't take phone calls to start the hour.

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01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 1: But we don't like the sports talk radio Handbook on

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01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 1: this show. Plus, also, I have to sneeze, which means

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01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 1: I have to have to hit the cough button. And

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01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 1: I can hit the cough button if I let Jeff talk.

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Speaker 1: So Jeff, go ahead. You're on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 4: Well, hey mo, this isn't Thanks for taking the call.

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01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 4: And this isn't necessarily sports talk anyway, so we get

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Speaker 4: a break there, just briefly. Every time Malett Hall is mentioned.

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Speaker 4: Every time Metlette Hall is mentioned, I think back to

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Speaker 4: the first time I saw Springsteen there in nineteen seventy nine.

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Speaker 4: I know you're a big fan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a huge fan. Yes, you saw him at

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01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 1: Mollett Hall eighteen seventy and that would have been the

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Speaker 1: Darkness on the Edge of Town tour.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I was a sophomore to you, and so headed

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Speaker 4: over there. You know, he's famous for three and a

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Speaker 4: half hour shows, and I'm pretty sure it was there,

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Speaker 4: might have might have been Riverfront the next year, but

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Speaker 4: the Powers ad be pulled the plug on him. He

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Speaker 4: was He mentioned something about they wanted him to quit

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Speaker 4: but he wouldn't and he just so it was well

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Speaker 4: over three and a half hours, and he was like

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Speaker 4: halfway through the Devil in the Blue Dress Madley and

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Speaker 4: and they just pulled the plug. All of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: the power went out, sound went out, lights went out.

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Speaker 1: So in the so not just like he ended a

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Speaker 1: song and told him he had to go, like they

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Speaker 1: literally pulled the power as he's performing.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, it was either the fire department or the

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Speaker 4: police department. Set enough is enough?

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 4: He would he wouldn't stop, and they just pulled the plug.

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Speaker 1: I don't think folks, I don't I don't think folks.

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Speaker 1: I don't think folks realize Mollette Hall. So Springsteen played there,

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Speaker 1: you saw that show. Billy Joel has played there, Bob

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Speaker 1: Dylan has played there, Joni Mitchell played there, Elton John's

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01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 1: played there, Chicago's played there, the go Gos.

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Speaker 4: Back in the day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, a tribe called Quest played there. Probably not

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Speaker 1: your jam but mine in high school. They played at

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Speaker 1: Mallett Hall. But they literally pulled the plug on Bruce

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Speaker 1: in the late seventies out. Well, now I'm happy they

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Speaker 1: mispronounced the name on that commercial.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but even I knew it was Lett Hall,

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Speaker 4: and I didn't even go there.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, you and me both all right? Man, Well,

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Speaker 1: thanks for.

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Speaker 4: The story, all right, thought you'd appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: I have a good one.

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Speaker 1: Much appreciate you too, man, Thank you very much. We

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Speaker 1: are airing a commercial that refers to Miami's basketball arena

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Speaker 1: as Millet Hall. That's what that's in reference to, Mike.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, you're on ESPN fifteen thirty micod afternoon. What's up?

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Speaker 5: Hey, thanks Mo, Yeah, you're very well.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 5: You shouldn't have done that. You shouldn't have done that

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Speaker 5: to me with these concerts because I saw Springsteen with

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01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 5: Royal Orbison way before the d just called. Ever saw

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Speaker 5: Bruce Springsteen when he was a nobody down at the

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Speaker 5: Lovelow Garage on Levelow Avenue in Clifton, which was a

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Speaker 5: hotbed for music in the late sixties early seventies. I

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01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 5: saw the Almon Brothers there, I saw bb King there,

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01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 5: I saw Just I could go down the line. Cincinnati

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01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 5: was a hotbed for music back then. Then it was

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Speaker 5: awesome as well. Everywhere was a hotbed for music in

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Speaker 5: their late sixties and early seventies. Anyway, he just jogged

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Speaker 5: my memory on that one. Your interviews with Freedol, Pegan

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Speaker 5: and now Steele were very nice. You have a way, though,

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Speaker 5: of relaxing people. I've noticed this sure of being an

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Speaker 5: avid listener. You have a certain air about you teams

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Speaker 5: to relax. Hey, dude, I'm not blowing smoke up your butt.

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Speaker 5: I'm telling you the truth. And I talked to Terarn

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Speaker 5: about it and he agrees with me.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's that's kind of you both. I I've never

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Speaker 1: had anybody frame it that way. I'd uh, most most

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Speaker 1: interview subjects sound like you know what, I can't wait

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Speaker 1: for this conversation to be over. So that was obviously

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Speaker 1: not the case with Travis, and I don't think it

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Speaker 1: was the case with the Reds players we had this week.

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Speaker 1: So so thank you. That's very kind of you. Mike,

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Speaker 1: Thanks very much.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's just a it's just a factual observation. It's

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Speaker 5: not it's not hypothetical. Uh, we're gonna keep building that bullpen.

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Speaker 5: Oh boy, let's just build the hell out of that bullpen.

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Speaker 5: We ain't gonna score any runs, but we're gonna We're

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Speaker 5: gonna build that bullpen. Now, let's get to the meat

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Speaker 5: of the subject for today, which is everybody, what's fire

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Speaker 5: against the Dodgers for getting a Tucker. Listen, folks, the

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Speaker 5: Mets spend not a whole lot less than the Dodgers.

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Speaker 5: But you know what the Mets don't do. The Mets

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Speaker 5: don't spend their money wisely, and it's obvious in their

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Speaker 5: finishing and what they do regarding world championships. So game

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Speaker 5: on you Mets.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think, well, you know, the Mets actually

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Speaker 1: outspent the Dodgers last year. I haven't looked, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the projected twenty twenty six payrolls

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Speaker 1: for each is. I don't know if the Dodgers will

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Speaker 1: end up spending more. I think anger at the Dodgers

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Speaker 1: is misdirected. And you and I talked about this during

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Speaker 1: the playoffs because folks, you know, rooted for Toronto forgetting

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Speaker 1: that the Toronto Blue Jays, or ignoring that the Toronto

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Speaker 1: Blue Jays had the fifth highest payroll, and they made

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Speaker 1: it sound like the Blue Jays were this plucky group

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Speaker 1: of upstarts and these ragtag guys that nobody wanted, and

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Speaker 1: that wasn't remotely true. Because of the resentment aimed at

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers for spending, I don't think the resentment should

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Speaker 1: be aimed at the Dodgers. They're playing within the rules.

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Speaker 1: They have an advantage. The thirty owners and the commissioners

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Speaker 1: say they have an advantage. They're taking advantage of it.

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Speaker 1: The bigger issue for me would be anybody, any team

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Speaker 1: that has an advantage, like the New York Yankees have

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Speaker 1: cried poverty in recent years at times, the Chicago Cups

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Speaker 1: not so much this offseason, but the Ricketts family at

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Speaker 1: times has cried poverty. That's insulting, that's frustrating. Get mad

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Speaker 1: at those owners. But I think the frustration with the Dodgers,

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Speaker 1: if that's how you feel, is misdirected. I think baseball's

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01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 1: got a problem. And I started the show by talking

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Speaker 1: about this. Whether it's fair or not, there are legions

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Speaker 1: of baseball fans who feel like, because of the economic

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Speaker 1: framework of the sport, their team doesn't have a chance.

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Speaker 1: And that's not good for your game. At the end

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Speaker 1: of the day. As much as people may love the sport,

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01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 1: may love one watching it, may appreciate it, may love

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01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 1: going to the ballpark, if folks who consume your game

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Speaker 1: feel like their team doesn't have a chance, that's a problem.

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Speaker 1: The one thing that the NFL does better than anything else,

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Speaker 1: and they do a lot of things really well, but

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Speaker 1: the one thing that the NFL does better than everybody

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Speaker 1: else is they make you feel like your team has

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Speaker 1: a chance. They make you feel like your team's not

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01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 1: that far away. They make you feel like, you know what,

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01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 1: one or two good offseasons, a few good drafts, hire

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Speaker 1: the right coach. We're not that far away. We've got

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Speaker 1: a shot. In baseball, there are fans who feel despair

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Speaker 1: because they feel like their team doesn't have a chance.

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Speaker 1: And when they do have a chance, in those years

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Speaker 1: where they have an opportunity to play in the playoffs, boy,

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Speaker 1: if we don't win, we're gonna have to suck. You

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01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 1: have baseball fans who feel like that the cost of

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01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 1: winning is your team has to stink forever. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: have to be that way, and I both know that.

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Speaker 1: But if that is the perception, and that perception is

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Speaker 1: driving a lack of interest, or that perception is keeping

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01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 1: people from consuming the sport to the extent that they would,

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01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:13,720
Speaker 1: then as an institution, baseball has a problem.

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Speaker 5: It is and it's not. Listen, it's not the owner's fault.

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01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 5: It's the players union that dictates what the situation is,

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01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 5: pure and simple. It's the players union that's what dictates

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01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 5: what's going on. You look at the.

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Speaker 1: Rest, I mean I think that's I think that blame

1442
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 1: is shared. I mean, they collectively bargain on the rules.

1443
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 1: You and I have talked about this. The players have

1444
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 1: not caved on the salary cap issue, and I don't

1445
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 1: believe that the owners have ever presented to them a viable,

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01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 1: a viable set of things that they'll offer to players

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01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 1: to make them cave I And so, I mean, yeah,

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01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 1: if I was a baseball player, I wouldn't want a

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01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 1: salary cap because I'm thinking about myself and I'm thinking

1450
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 1: about my career. I think what you're hoping for is

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Speaker 1: that the players union starts to think about the overall

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01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 1: greater health of the game and goes, Okay, maybe it's

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01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 1: within the sport's best interest for us to accept the

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01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:16,680
Speaker 1: salary cap, and so if we accept one, maybe there

1455
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 1: are some things we could get that make things better

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01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:20,680
Speaker 1: for our union membership.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, probably the strongest union and then in the industrial world. Really,

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01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 5: I think it is. It is real quick, Mom, I

1459
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 5: know you got to go because I could go on

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01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:36,679
Speaker 5: and on about this. Okay, the Yankees eight point two

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01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:43,600
Speaker 5: billion Forbes valuation this year, Dodgers six point eight billion revenue.

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01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 5: Yankees and Dodgers about the same for last year of

1463
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 5: over seven hundred million dollars, So you know they got

1464
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 5: to do. Okay, playoff football coming up. I like, I

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01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:03,719
Speaker 5: don't like this game. I think I think I almost

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01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 5: want to root for Josh because I'm not a Denver fan,

1467
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 5: but I just don't think that they have enough he

1468
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 5: it's a it's a it's a twenty two player sport, right.

1469
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 5: One guy is not gonna make it is not. I

1470
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:20,799
Speaker 5: can't see it happening.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 5: Denver's defense was average or mediocre, but it's awesome. Okay.

1473
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:31,800
Speaker 5: Then we go down to the Houston game. Houston, New

1474
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,559
Speaker 5: England played this one of the softer schedules all year long.

1475
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 5: They did, yes, and I can't believe Sud's gonna be

1476
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 5: continued to to screw up. Now, maybe he will, but

1477
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 5: they don't even care if he does. They still win.

1478
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:50,559
Speaker 5: You think the weather thing with the Rams game is

1479
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 5: as big of a deal as they're making it out

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01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:52,600
Speaker 5: to be.

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01:25:55,920 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 1: No, No, not not particularly. I think the Rams have

1482
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 1: special teams issues. I think the Rams have issues with

1483
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:11,599
Speaker 1: their offense seeming like it peaked six weeks ago. And look,

1484
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:15,599
Speaker 1: I mean the Chicago Bears. This is very unscientific. They've

1485
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 1: had fourth quarter magic all season long, and I think

1486
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 1: you can't help but wonder in that game, if it's close,

1487
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:23,320
Speaker 1: what are Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson going to come

1488
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:25,719
Speaker 1: up with? To figure out a way to win.

1489
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:29,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, you do, but then you got two real geniuses,

1490
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 5: McVeagh and him going. The thing that worries me about

1491
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 5: the Rams is the secondary has been just.

1492
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:38,360
Speaker 1: Awful awful, Yes, awful.

1493
01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 5: Bill Burrow would have annihilated that secondary easily. Yeah, And

1494
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 5: what's the last game on forgetting the Niners game?

1495
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:49,760
Speaker 1: What do you think with the ob thing San Francisco?

1496
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 1: The oblique thing with Sam Darnold, I mean oblique injuries.

1497
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 1: I obviously am not qualified to speak to its severity,

1498
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 1: but oblique injuries seem like they linger longer than they should,

1499
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 1: and you think of all the different ways that may

1500
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 1: affect him. But you know, I'm not betting that game

1501
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:11,760
Speaker 1: on the spread. I like the under in it. But

1502
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 1: if you put a gun to my head and said

1503
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 1: you got to take one or the other, I'm getting

1504
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:19,800
Speaker 1: a touchdown with Kyle Shanahan. I just I feel like

1505
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 1: they'll figure out a way to make it close. I

1506
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't feel that way if I knew Darnold was one

1507
01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:30,760
Speaker 1: hundred percent, But now they played just two weeks ago

1508
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 1: in San Francisco's offense was completely neutered by Seattle's defense

1509
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 1: That Seahawks defense is awesome, but it wasn't like that

1510
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 1: game was a blowout, right it was I think thirteen

1511
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 1: to three. That game to me just screams under I've

1512
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 1: said all week long, I think that's a stay away.

1513
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 1: The other three I'd be comfortable. I'd be comfortable betting

1514
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 1: on the spread. I don't know how Buffalo is going

1515
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 1: to score against Denver because their run defense is awesome.

1516
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 1: Josh Allen had to put the team on his back

1517
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:04,680
Speaker 1: last week. The the offense is at times punchless. I

1518
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 1: really like Denver in that game Chicago, I'll grabbed the

1519
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 1: three and a half. I lean Houston, but I'm I'm

1520
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 1: taking a leap of faith that CJ. Stroud doesn't screw

1521
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:16,320
Speaker 1: it up, and it felt like for the first three

1522
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 1: quarters of that game on Monday against Pittsburgh like he

1523
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 1: was gonna screw it up.

1524
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:23,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I did well as usual. I'll follow your lead

1525
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 5: because you're the one that helped me start making money

1526
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:30,599
Speaker 5: ten years ago, and I'm forever indebted to you for that.

1527
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 5: I really am.

1528
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 4: You know, you know, you were like I just.

1529
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:37,640
Speaker 5: The home dog.

1530
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 1: Of course, when you started calling this show, it was

1531
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 1: there were two major themes one, you thought this was

1532
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 1: the best sports talk radio show in the country. I'm

1533
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 1: not sure you feel that way anymore. Number two, you

1534
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:51,919
Speaker 1: were you were grateful. You were, Yeah, you were grateful

1535
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 1: for all the uh the successful wagers you made and

1536
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 1: and we we had times made you pay it forward

1537
01:28:57,560 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 1: based on your winnings.

1538
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 5: Yes you did, and I you I got. I you

1539
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 5: just smoking Miami. I don't care about their front four

1540
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 5: and in their quarterback. Yeah he may be already may not,

1541
01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 5: but that Indiana team, I want him to make history,

1542
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 5: don't you. I really do. Plus they're a local one.

1543
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 5: I'm rooting for him.

1544
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm rooting for him. I think it's an awesome story.

1545
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 1: I like Signetti. I think that game is going to

1546
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 1: expose Miami's lack of offensive explosiveness. I think what they

1547
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:33,519
Speaker 1: can't do offensively, thank you, Mike just plays right into

1548
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 1: the hands of Indiana. And I'm rooting for the Hoosiers.

1549
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:42,559
Speaker 1: I honestly like they're an area school. I haven't met

1550
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 1: anybody who's like rooting against him. I don't get any

1551
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:49,759
Speaker 1: like they're an area school, so we're going to resent

1552
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 1: them because you know, I'm maybe there's Kentucky fans not

1553
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 1: rooting for Indiana. Maybe Ohio state fans aren't either, but

1554
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:59,600
Speaker 1: I am. I'm rooting for the Hoosiers. It is a

1555
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 1: nineteen minutes after five o'clock. Five one, three, seven, four nine,

1556
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:06,120
Speaker 1: fifteen thirty is our phone number, and eight sixty six

1557
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 1: seven oh two three seven seven six. One of these

1558
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:11,719
Speaker 1: days I'm gonna do a show where I do nothing

1559
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 1: but read texts I get during. It ain't gonna be today,

1560
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:18,640
Speaker 1: but it may happen sometime soon. I'm oegor here at

1561
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 1: six o'clock. Thank you for joining us today. Let's let's

1562
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 1: get to the baseball issue. Here in a second on

1563
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:26,960
Speaker 1: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Raid column on ESPN

1564
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:30,320
Speaker 1: dot com right now by Dan Wetzel, who writes about

1565
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:35,639
Speaker 1: the latest college basketball point shaving scandal. Uh. I encourage

1566
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 1: you to go read it. Uh The crux of it

1567
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 1: is is this passage. This is about personal accountability. This

1568
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 1: is about consciously choosing alleged criminal behavior. Uh So. And

1569
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:50,160
Speaker 1: I bring this up because you know we'll get to

1570
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 1: the conversation yesterday about well, this is this is the

1571
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 1: fault of legal eyes gambling. It is it is not

1572
01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:58,240
Speaker 1: these are these are people who made a decision to

1573
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 1: do something illegal. They chose criminal behavior, and and and

1574
01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:07,599
Speaker 1: maybe would have chosen criminal behavior had sports wagering been

1575
01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:11,280
Speaker 1: illegal around the country, and I obviously know there's lots

1576
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:14,840
Speaker 1: of states where it's still not legal. The people involved

1577
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:19,040
Speaker 1: in this chose criminal behavior. This is this is personal accountability.

1578
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:24,160
Speaker 1: This is violating basic tenets of competitiveness, like the core

1579
01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 1: bonds of team play. Go read the piece, Dan Wetzel,

1580
01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 1: ESPN dot com. That's what I did during the break.

1581
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:33,439
Speaker 1: That's what I did during the break. Five nine, fifteen

1582
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 1: thirty is our our phone number here. By the way,

1583
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 1: you know we we started the the hour our guy

1584
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:42,639
Speaker 1: might by talking about the Reds bullpen. So I think

1585
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:45,599
Speaker 1: most of us went into the season, or went into

1586
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:48,479
Speaker 1: the offseason thinking, Okay, the Reds they're set with their

1587
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:51,599
Speaker 1: starting staff. Hopefully if they trade from it, they do

1588
01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 1: the right things that can still happen. They need to

1589
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:58,920
Speaker 1: do two things. They've done one of them, and don't

1590
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 1: I think you can do I think you could do

1591
01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:06,360
Speaker 1: multiple things here. I think you can lament the fact

1592
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:09,360
Speaker 1: and be upset at the fact that to this point

1593
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:12,439
Speaker 1: in the off season the Reds haven't made their offense better.

1594
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:15,519
Speaker 1: And by the way, when we say make the offense better,

1595
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:19,439
Speaker 1: it wasn't like a dramatic overhaul was ever going to

1596
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:23,160
Speaker 1: be in the offing. You know, again, it's multiple truths, right,

1597
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:25,639
Speaker 1: Like they need dudes who are on last year's team

1598
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:30,640
Speaker 1: to perform better or stay healthy. But that also you

1599
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 1: look at the offense and they needed help in all

1600
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:35,760
Speaker 1: likelihood from outside. Part of what makes what they've not

1601
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:40,759
Speaker 1: done so frustrating this offseason offensively, at least to this point,

1602
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:44,880
Speaker 1: is it doesn't feel like they're that far away. They

1603
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:47,920
Speaker 1: had a league average offense last year. It wasn't a

1604
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 1: league worst offense last season. So I want to take

1605
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 1: a league average offense and make it an elite offense.

1606
01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:57,960
Speaker 1: And I think there's multiple things that have to happen

1607
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 1: for that to happen, and that's nal improvements, better things

1608
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:05,760
Speaker 1: happening with players are on last year's team. Go get

1609
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 1: a guy who brings to the table what the Reds

1610
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:11,519
Speaker 1: sorely lacked last year. All of those things can be

1611
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 1: said the other part of the team. I think Nick

1612
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:19,719
Speaker 1: Crawl has done a pretty good job. And look, man,

1613
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:25,560
Speaker 1: there have been lots of years where a common complaint

1614
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:29,800
Speaker 1: including from me. A common complaint has been, boy, it

1615
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:33,560
Speaker 1: felt like they it felt like they really didn't prioritize

1616
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:36,479
Speaker 1: the bullpen. It felt like, Ah, you know what, We'll

1617
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:39,240
Speaker 1: just throw some dudes there and see if it works out.

1618
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:44,360
Speaker 1: I think it's actually gonna be pretty easy to identify

1619
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:50,559
Speaker 1: when spring training starts who should do what. I don't

1620
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:52,240
Speaker 1: think it's going to be that difficult when when spring

1621
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:55,040
Speaker 1: training starts and you look at the core of relievers

1622
01:33:55,520 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 1: to identify who should fit what role. Obviously, as the

1623
01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:04,600
Speaker 1: season unfolds, maybe a spring training unfolds, there could be injuries,

1624
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 1: There could be guys who aren't as good as you hope.

1625
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:10,400
Speaker 1: They are a lot of different things over usage, which

1626
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:12,799
Speaker 1: hopefully isn't the case with this team, because the starting

1627
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:16,639
Speaker 1: pitching should be pretty good. But the fact that they

1628
01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 1: haven't touched that much the offense doesn't mean that what

1629
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:23,760
Speaker 1: they have done with this other part of the team

1630
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Caleb Ferguson and Pierce Johnson and and Brock

1631
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:36,840
Speaker 1: Burke like those are established quality relievers. Are they stars? No,

1632
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:40,439
Speaker 1: But they weren't gonna go get stars to fill out

1633
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:43,320
Speaker 1: the bullpen. What they got are established, bona fide relievers,

1634
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:46,120
Speaker 1: not guys who you know were hurt last year and

1635
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 1: used to be good and hopefully they can recapture the

1636
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 1: magic or you know, dude who needs a change of scenery,

1637
01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:55,360
Speaker 1: like legitimate relievers. I think it as it relates specifically

1638
01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:57,880
Speaker 1: to the guy they got from the Angels brock Burke.

1639
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:00,479
Speaker 1: It's somebody who gets a lot of groundball, somebody who

1640
01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:03,000
Speaker 1: doesn't give him a whole lot of contact. I think

1641
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:04,880
Speaker 1: a better lefty option out of the bullpen than what

1642
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:08,640
Speaker 1: they had last year. Like there's you could look at

1643
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:11,000
Speaker 1: that area of the team and go, Nick, Carl's done

1644
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 1: a pretty good job. They didn't cut corners that They're

1645
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:17,640
Speaker 1: not sending some like failed starter out there in the

1646
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 1: bullpen to see if he fits as a reliever. That's

1647
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:26,599
Speaker 1: good now over here. The unwillingness or inability to this

1648
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:32,680
Speaker 1: point to add a bat, you know, is frustrating, And

1649
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:36,080
Speaker 1: mainly it's frustrating because it's not like we went into

1650
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:38,479
Speaker 1: the It's not like the Bengals defense where you look

1651
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:40,680
Speaker 1: at the Bengals defense and you're like, man, need a

1652
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:43,840
Speaker 1: dude interior the defensive line. You need a guy who

1653
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:47,200
Speaker 1: can rush off the edge. They need cover linebackers could

1654
01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:50,480
Speaker 1: use a slot corner, need one or maybe two safeties.

1655
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,599
Speaker 1: It's they need they need a guy who can hit

1656
01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:57,080
Speaker 1: the ball out of the ballpark. Now, those are maybe

1657
01:35:57,200 --> 01:35:59,840
Speaker 1: easier to say you're gonna get than actually go and get.

1658
01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:05,200
Speaker 1: But don't let that frustration make you, I don't know,

1659
01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:09,599
Speaker 1: diminish poo pooh if you wish what they have done

1660
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:14,479
Speaker 1: with the relief Corps. That was not the biggest move

1661
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 1: in baseball yesterday. The Kyle Tucker thing, him signing with

1662
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 1: the Dodgers. I think emotionally for a lot of baseball

1663
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:30,160
Speaker 1: fans feels very much like a tipping point. This is

1664
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:36,519
Speaker 1: inarguable you have a lot of people who are not

1665
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:39,760
Speaker 1: as in love with the sport as maybe they used

1666
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:43,920
Speaker 1: to be because they feel like, because of your rules,

1667
01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:49,760
Speaker 1: their team has no chance. You may believe, you know what,

1668
01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:54,040
Speaker 1: their team does have a chance. But I think in

1669
01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 1: this instance, the customer is always right. If you have

1670
01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:04,360
Speaker 1: real or potential customers who feel a certain way about

1671
01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:09,280
Speaker 1: your product, and it's compromising their interest and compromising their

1672
01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 1: willingness to buy tickets, buy subscriptions, buy merch or simply

1673
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:18,880
Speaker 1: consume the product, you got a problem. This is not

1674
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:22,839
Speaker 1: a new problem for baseball. And look in large ratings

1675
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 1: are good, ballparks are full, think about how much better

1676
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:29,240
Speaker 1: things could be, and the reality is like in the

1677
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:32,519
Speaker 1: collective consciousness of sports fans, baseball is not what it

1678
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:35,080
Speaker 1: used to be. It's always talked about as being a regional,

1679
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:41,280
Speaker 1: local sport. I don't think I don't think it's healthy

1680
01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:42,599
Speaker 1: for you when you have a lot of folks who

1681
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:44,280
Speaker 1: are just throwing their hands up, go and screw it.

1682
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:48,720
Speaker 1: My team has no chance every single year, every single year.

1683
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:53,479
Speaker 1: Like you know, obviously not every NFL franchise is well

1684
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:56,879
Speaker 1: run to give itself a chance every year. But it's

1685
01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 1: the beauty of what the NFL does. I don't know

1686
01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:02,679
Speaker 1: that baseball's economics can look like the NFL is because

1687
01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 1: of just the sheer nature of how the sports are televised.

1688
01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:12,720
Speaker 1: But in the NFL, fans feel like the perception is

1689
01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:17,080
Speaker 1: reality here. It doesn't excuse owners, it doesn't excuse teams

1690
01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:19,599
Speaker 1: that can't figure it out, it doesn't excuse the Reds.

1691
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:25,000
Speaker 1: But when you have this super team over here, who,

1692
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:30,439
Speaker 1: through no faults of their own, is just grabbing talent

1693
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:34,920
Speaker 1: like the Kyle Tucker acquisition feels it's not, but it

1694
01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:39,360
Speaker 1: feels almost gratuitous. It feels like they're just almost just

1695
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:42,800
Speaker 1: hoarding players because they can. Again, that is a nuts

1696
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:46,080
Speaker 1: and bolts perspective, not what they're doing, but it's what

1697
01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:48,800
Speaker 1: it feels like and what it feels like if that

1698
01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:54,479
Speaker 1: helps drive interest or if it inhibits interest. If it

1699
01:38:54,680 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 1: prohibits interest, that's a problem for you if you're trying

1700
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:04,680
Speaker 1: to sell tickets, trying to get people interested, trying to

1701
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:07,799
Speaker 1: make people invest in your sport. Twenty six from six o'clock,

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01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:10,439
Speaker 1: five point three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty is our

1703
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:13,760
Speaker 1: phone number. Again, the big question is you can hate

1704
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 1: the players for it, but we've had work stoppages that

1705
01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:19,479
Speaker 1: have accomplished very, very little in this regard in terms

1706
01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:23,600
Speaker 1: of changing baseball's economic model. We are careening towards a

1707
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:27,479
Speaker 1: lockout next year. Every single one of us hates that,

1708
01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:30,240
Speaker 1: but it feels like there's almost no way for things

1709
01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:32,880
Speaker 1: to change beyond the sport going away long enough for

1710
01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:36,240
Speaker 1: the players to go, okay, fine, we'll change, and I

1711
01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:38,200
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a long time before that happens.

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01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 1: Twenty five away from six o'clock Sports headlines are next

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01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:48,240
Speaker 1: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. My guy Austin Bengals,

1714
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:51,040
Speaker 1: does he know something I don't. The Bengals need a quarterback?

1715
01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:56,280
Speaker 1: What are we doing? We got a guy calling it

1716
01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:59,240
Speaker 1: Millett Hall. We got Austin saying the Bengals need a quarterback?

1717
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:05,080
Speaker 1: What world am my operating in today? I've i haven't

1718
01:40:05,120 --> 01:40:07,720
Speaker 1: felt great this week, and so I've I've taken you know,

1719
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:10,479
Speaker 1: I've taken my share of antibiotics. But I feel like

1720
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm in like an alternate universe. Sports headlines are a

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Speaker 1: kelseyshev dot com reds fast is happening right now, and

1724
01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:30,000
Speaker 1: Terry Francona says TJ. Friedel is going to be the

1725
01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:33,320
Speaker 1: starting center field er. That is apparently news. I wasn't

1726
01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:36,879
Speaker 1: sure that it would be, but it is now. Noelve

1727
01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:41,439
Speaker 1: Martin might take some reps out there, but it's a TJ.

1728
01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:45,400
Speaker 1: Friedel's job, So there you go. Red's made it official today.

1729
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:47,519
Speaker 1: They have acquired brock Burke. Wouldn't it be more fun

1730
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:51,360
Speaker 1: if they got Brooke Burke early? Two thousands, Brooke Burke

1731
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 1: was everywhere. Brock Burke pitched for the Angels last year.

1732
01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:56,479
Speaker 1: He's now going to pitch for the Reds because they

1733
01:40:56,520 --> 01:40:59,800
Speaker 1: traded for him in a three team deal. Burke had

1734
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:03,600
Speaker 1: an area of three three six in sixty nine appearances

1735
01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:07,559
Speaker 1: with the Angels last year. Cincinnati also acquiring minor league

1736
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:12,759
Speaker 1: writy Dusty Reeves. I don't know why the name Dusty

1737
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:15,920
Speaker 1: Reeves makes me smile, but it does. In exchange for

1738
01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:19,479
Speaker 1: yaz Var Zueletta, who was DFAD earlier in the day

1739
01:41:20,560 --> 01:41:25,280
Speaker 1: college hoops Tonight, dayton is hosting Loyola of Chicago. That

1740
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:28,400
Speaker 1: game will tip off at eight thirty tonight, with the

1741
01:41:28,439 --> 01:41:31,200
Speaker 1: Flyers looking for a fifth consecutive win to open up

1742
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:36,160
Speaker 1: Atlantic ten play tomorrow. I will go in chronological order. Okay,

1743
01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:39,840
Speaker 1: Kentucky's on the road at number twenty four Tennessee the

1744
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:43,840
Speaker 1: Wildcats coming off that pseudo miracle finish over LSU on

1745
01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:46,439
Speaker 1: Wednesday night. Tip off at noon, pregame at ten thirty

1746
01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:50,120
Speaker 1: on ESPN fifteen thirty. Ohio Stable host Mick Cronin's UCLA Bruins.

1747
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:52,680
Speaker 1: That game at one o'clock. The Miami RedHawks looked for

1748
01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:55,439
Speaker 1: a nineteenth win in a row to open the season,

1749
01:41:55,479 --> 01:42:00,559
Speaker 1: hosting Buffalo tomorrow at Malette Hall. One pm. Tomorrow, the

1750
01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:04,639
Speaker 1: UC Beracats host the second ranked Iowa State Cyclones, tip

1751
01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:08,320
Speaker 1: off at two pregame at one thirty. Seven hundred WLW

1752
01:42:08,360 --> 01:42:11,960
Speaker 1: has the game. Indiana hosts Iowa NKU and Robert Morris

1753
01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:15,600
Speaker 1: tomorrow seven o'clock tip from Truist Arena. That game is

1754
01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:19,040
Speaker 1: also on ESPN fifteen thirty. NFL Playoffs this weekend on

1755
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:22,320
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW at the Broncos hosting the Bills San

1756
01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:26,479
Speaker 1: Francisco's at Seattle. Sunday, it's the Texans in Foxboro to

1757
01:42:26,520 --> 01:42:29,600
Speaker 1: take on the Patriots and the Chicago Bears hosting the

1758
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 1: La Rams Hockey tonight downtown. Grateful dead night for the

1759
01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:38,000
Speaker 1: Cyclones as they host Rapid City puck Drops at seven thirty.

1760
01:42:38,280 --> 01:42:41,560
Speaker 1: They also play same two teams at four pm tomorrow.

1761
01:42:41,640 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 1: You are, as we say, up to date and congratulations

1762
01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:50,240
Speaker 1: to Cincinnati's own Rose Level, who has been voted US

1763
01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:54,040
Speaker 1: Soccer's Female Player of the Year from twenty twenty five.

1764
01:42:54,160 --> 01:42:58,679
Speaker 1: Congratulations to her, all right, uh five point three seven

1765
01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:01,400
Speaker 1: four nine fifteen thirty. I believe we have Ian. Ian,

1766
01:43:01,439 --> 01:43:03,800
Speaker 1: you're on ESPN fifteen thirty. Good afternoon, Ian.

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01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:07,840
Speaker 6: How are you hey, brother, I can hear your days.

1768
01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:10,120
Speaker 6: We'll hopefully you're off the bend there.

1769
01:43:11,720 --> 01:43:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm doing my best. I just can't get over the hump.

1770
01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:18,040
Speaker 1: I just it's been six days. I just can't get

1771
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:18,679
Speaker 1: over the humpy.

1772
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:22,840
Speaker 6: And well, if it makes you feel any better. December one,

1773
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:26,559
Speaker 6: my wife tested me and I had blu a and

1774
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:30,800
Speaker 6: almost up to Christmas it was terrible and I just

1775
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:33,880
Speaker 6: went to the doctor. I still have a lingering in

1776
01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:36,640
Speaker 6: the chest. But uh, it's ridiculous.

1777
01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:36,840
Speaker 4: Man.

1778
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:41,559
Speaker 1: But uh, I've I've not tested. I've I've I've tested.

1779
01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:45,840
Speaker 1: I haven't tested positive for anything. Uh. I just have

1780
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:48,360
Speaker 1: felt crummy all week, and then toward the end of

1781
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:50,599
Speaker 1: the week it's been nobody cares about this. But toward

1782
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:52,680
Speaker 1: the end of this week it's been like stuffiness and

1783
01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:56,120
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm one more, one more good night

1784
01:43:56,120 --> 01:43:58,360
Speaker 1: to sleep away from beating it. And I hope so

1785
01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:00,479
Speaker 1: because I got stuff I want to do this weekend.

1786
01:44:01,600 --> 01:44:06,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, gotta list what's on your mind? My little buddy,

1787
01:44:06,680 --> 01:44:11,679
Speaker 6: my little buddy chat ebt here pulled me a list. Yeah,

1788
01:44:11,720 --> 01:44:15,519
Speaker 6: and I know it's Cringey. But of this list and

1789
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:20,439
Speaker 6: the number one tier, it has not realistic. But here's

1790
01:44:20,560 --> 01:44:24,040
Speaker 6: my question, I'm phrasing. And then I have one other question.

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01:44:24,120 --> 01:44:24,759
Speaker 2: I'll be quick.

1792
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:28,479
Speaker 6: And it compares to when they were gonna go after

1793
01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:30,920
Speaker 6: what's his name and then they dropped out of that

1794
01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:36,920
Speaker 6: as far as pay, like Cody Bellinger or this bo Bshetty,

1795
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:41,519
Speaker 6: what it cost around the same. So when they dropped

1796
01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:42,520
Speaker 6: out of the deal.

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01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:45,759
Speaker 2: For uh, what's the space that stayed with the Mets

1798
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:46,240
Speaker 2: or whatever.

1799
01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:51,080
Speaker 1: So that so that was that was Kyle Schwarber. Uh,

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01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:55,200
Speaker 1: Boba Boba Shad is off the table because he signed

1801
01:44:55,200 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 1: with the Mets. So somebody has to tell chat chat GBT.

1802
01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:04,120
Speaker 1: So Schwarberg got five years one. So Schwarberg got five

1803
01:45:04,240 --> 01:45:07,519
Speaker 1: years one fifty. Bischett got three for one twenty six.

1804
01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:11,360
Speaker 1: So Bashett did not get as much money in total value,

1805
01:45:11,439 --> 01:45:15,120
Speaker 1: but he got more in terms of annual value average

1806
01:45:15,160 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 1: annual value.

1807
01:45:17,200 --> 01:45:21,240
Speaker 6: Okay, and then so the Cody Ballinger would that be similar?

1808
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:22,080
Speaker 2: Maybe?

1809
01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:25,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we're I think we're talking about the

1810
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:28,600
Speaker 1: same ballpark. I think the fact that Kyle Tucker is

1811
01:45:28,640 --> 01:45:32,120
Speaker 1: off the board, Uh, bo Baschett's off the board. You know,

1812
01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:34,120
Speaker 1: if you pay attention to what's happening in New York,

1813
01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:39,320
Speaker 1: there's a lot of pressure for among Yankees fans and

1814
01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:41,479
Speaker 1: among people who cover the team to say, all right,

1815
01:45:41,560 --> 01:45:45,040
Speaker 1: you know, make bring Cody Bellinger back. I think if

1816
01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:47,760
Speaker 1: you look at you know, Pete Alonso five for one

1817
01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:51,679
Speaker 1: fifty five, Schwarber five for one fifty the Bischett deal,

1818
01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:56,200
Speaker 1: the the money for Cody Bellinger, I guess would be

1819
01:45:56,560 --> 01:45:57,360
Speaker 1: would be similar.

1820
01:45:59,040 --> 01:46:02,439
Speaker 6: Okay, then here's my last thing on these second tier

1821
01:46:02,560 --> 01:46:03,440
Speaker 6: that he said.

1822
01:46:05,200 --> 01:46:05,919
Speaker 2: There are four.

1823
01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:09,240
Speaker 6: Names, and then my my guess, almost like a lottery bet,

1824
01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:13,240
Speaker 6: because this is what I just feel. Still got Hanio

1825
01:46:13,360 --> 01:46:21,959
Speaker 6: Suarez out there, uh re hop Hoskins and Ryan O'Hearn.

1826
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:24,880
Speaker 6: I feel like the way the Reds are, they would

1827
01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:28,439
Speaker 6: go try They might actively be trying to make a

1828
01:46:28,520 --> 01:46:32,679
Speaker 6: deal with Ryan ahearn right now. And that's just a wild,

1829
01:46:32,760 --> 01:46:34,000
Speaker 6: wild guess.

1830
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:36,639
Speaker 2: But it's just the way they're doing that with the pitching.

1831
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:39,559
Speaker 6: It feels like, why the hell wouldn't they just try

1832
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:42,360
Speaker 6: to get somebody. It doesn't make sense.

1833
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:48,599
Speaker 1: Oh O'Hearn's gonna O'Hearn. I don't think O'Hearn is signing

1834
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 1: with the Pirates. Okay, so he's so he's off the draft.

1835
01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:56,160
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, I don't. I read something late

1836
01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:59,679
Speaker 1: last week about why he hadn't yet officially signed his contract,

1837
01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:03,200
Speaker 1: but but he has agreed to terms with the Pittsburgh Pirates.

1838
01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:08,360
Speaker 1: Marcelo Zuna doesn't do a ton for me. A U

1839
01:47:08,360 --> 01:47:12,200
Speaker 1: Haano Suarez does you know now he ain't gonna play

1840
01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:17,920
Speaker 1: third base because they got Key Brian Hayes. It's not

1841
01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:20,800
Speaker 1: gonna be a Cody Bellinger. I mean he right now

1842
01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 1: would be the best available free agent bat. Marcelo Zuna

1843
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:29,400
Speaker 1: is coming off a season you know that was significantly

1844
01:47:29,439 --> 01:47:31,800
Speaker 1: down from what he was in twenty twenty four when

1845
01:47:31,800 --> 01:47:35,400
Speaker 1: he was great. And if a thirty four year old

1846
01:47:35,439 --> 01:47:38,160
Speaker 1: guy sees a drop in production from one year to

1847
01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:41,439
Speaker 1: the next, my guess is there's not gonna suddenly be

1848
01:47:41,479 --> 01:47:44,960
Speaker 1: a huge uptick in production when he's thirty five. So

1849
01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:48,960
Speaker 1: that's why he doesn't do it for me. I think Suarez,

1850
01:47:49,160 --> 01:47:53,040
Speaker 1: for all the obvious reasons, was obviously very productive last year.

1851
01:47:53,960 --> 01:47:58,400
Speaker 1: There's the connection with him having been a former Red

1852
01:47:57,840 --> 01:48:00,800
Speaker 1: they they have that that's at DH, especially with Gavin

1853
01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:03,760
Speaker 1: Lux gone, so that would be interesting to me, that

1854
01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:09,120
Speaker 1: would make a lot of sense. But you know, the

1855
01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:12,080
Speaker 1: longer this goes and the more names you see come

1856
01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:14,240
Speaker 1: off the board, and the fewer names that you even

1857
01:48:14,280 --> 01:48:16,840
Speaker 1: hear about the Reds being engaged with, I think the

1858
01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:20,200
Speaker 1: more frustrating of Kits not that they still can't go

1859
01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:25,240
Speaker 1: at offense. Moving on from Gavin Lux would certainly suggest

1860
01:48:25,240 --> 01:48:26,960
Speaker 1: that they're going to stash some money away to go

1861
01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:30,799
Speaker 1: get a bat. But you know, the season ended October first,

1862
01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:35,000
Speaker 1: it's January the sixteenth. Yeah, I think most of us

1863
01:48:35,400 --> 01:48:38,680
Speaker 1: expected by now there would be some sort of offensive

1864
01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:44,679
Speaker 1: significant offensive addition JJ Blede and go ahead.

1865
01:48:46,360 --> 01:48:46,439
Speaker 3: No.

1866
01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:50,960
Speaker 6: I just like, wouldn't it be terrible if they actually

1867
01:48:51,479 --> 01:48:55,000
Speaker 6: win after Suarez and then he ended up having a

1868
01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:58,040
Speaker 6: season like he had like towards the eddit where he

1869
01:48:58,200 --> 01:49:02,599
Speaker 6: just like fell off like the red lock or something.

1870
01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:05,719
Speaker 6: But I don't know, man, I really would be great

1871
01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:08,640
Speaker 6: for them to, you know, just I feel like the

1872
01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:12,200
Speaker 6: whole lockout thing is that they're just being conservative and

1873
01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:16,120
Speaker 6: they don't really want to dive in and the contact

1874
01:49:16,120 --> 01:49:19,400
Speaker 6: that they want to offer. Everybody's just not wanting to

1875
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:24,160
Speaker 6: do what they were offering, you know, and it's terrible.

1876
01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:25,360
Speaker 5: I hate it all.

1877
01:49:25,560 --> 01:49:28,960
Speaker 1: No, I'm it's none of It's when when you're talking

1878
01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:33,880
Speaker 1: about a lockout being the remedy to issues that a

1879
01:49:33,880 --> 01:49:37,920
Speaker 1: lot of people think kill the sport, that's a problem.

1880
01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:42,559
Speaker 1: This war Euadio Suarez is interesting because that last full

1881
01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:45,920
Speaker 1: season here, No, he still hit thirty one bombs, but

1882
01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:51,000
Speaker 1: his numbers otherwise really dropped off, and they have slowly

1883
01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:55,880
Speaker 1: and steadily gone up every single year since. To me,

1884
01:49:56,200 --> 01:50:00,160
Speaker 1: like I would be okay without U Hateo Suarez. That

1885
01:50:00,280 --> 01:50:04,680
Speaker 1: is an okay consolation prize if you had your heart

1886
01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:08,120
Speaker 1: set on Kyle Schwarmer. But you know, I just I

1887
01:50:08,120 --> 01:50:09,840
Speaker 1: don't think they deserve the benefit of it out. You

1888
01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:11,479
Speaker 1: can sit there and go, well, they still have time,

1889
01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:14,880
Speaker 1: they cleared some money, they'll still get something done. Cool,

1890
01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:17,000
Speaker 1: But then you're putting a lot of faith in a

1891
01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:21,360
Speaker 1: franchise that doesn't deserve it. We're done. Show's over. I

1892
01:50:21,400 --> 01:50:24,519
Speaker 1: am in on Monday night for Lance. So, Tara, do

1893
01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:28,400
Speaker 1: we know who's doing my show on Monday? That's Chat Chad.

1894
01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:30,479
Speaker 1: Chad Brenda does my show on Monday. I'm in for

1895
01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:33,920
Speaker 1: Lance Monday evening at six. We are done. Thanks to

1896
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:36,400
Speaker 1: Tarren Bland for producing. Thanks to you for listening, have

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