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Speaker 1: It is America's Trucking Network with Kevin Gordon.

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Speaker 2: Welcome aboard, Thanks for tuning in on this Wednesday morning pub.

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Speaker 3: We got some good news and bad news, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: As far as some of these economic reports and so on,

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Speaker 2: we have been seeing all kinds of roller coaster information

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Speaker 2: from the spoon fed regurgitators in the mainstream media, and

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Speaker 2: whenever we get good news, it seems as though that

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Speaker 2: they have to slip in bad news, or as I've

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Speaker 2: talked to in the past, they always try to find

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Speaker 2: that one sentence in bad news and use that as

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Speaker 2: their headline lead and they just got to throw it

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Speaker 2: in there. But here's a pretty decent headline that came

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Speaker 2: out yesterday morning. US consumer confidence rises, but job openings

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Speaker 2: and hiring drop sharply. Now this is interesting because when

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Speaker 2: we were down at Mattz last week on Friday, the

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Speaker 2: University of Michigan report comes out. Now, that is the

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Speaker 2: Consumer Sentiment Report, which is a report that is set

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Speaker 2: up by the respondents to the survey that's done by

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Speaker 2: the University of Michigan, and that generally comes out well.

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Speaker 2: As it turns out now always comes out about a

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Speaker 2: couple of days before the consumer confidence report from the

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Speaker 2: US government, and of course the numbers a lot of

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Speaker 2: times seem to be within the same range, but this

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Speaker 2: time there is a dramatic difference. Looking at the numbers

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Speaker 2: in particular, US consumer confidence rises.

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Speaker 3: Let's see the.

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Speaker 2: Consumer confidence unexpectedly edged up in March, but households remain

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Speaker 2: downbeat on the job market and anticipated higher inflation over

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Speaker 2: the next twelve months amid a sharp surge in gasoline

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Speaker 2: prices and continued pair tariff pass throughs. The labor market

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Speaker 2: apprehension was underscored by the other data on Tuesday, showing

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Speaker 2: fewer job openings in February and hiring tumbling to a

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Speaker 2: six month low. Conomists say lingering uncertainty about Donald Trump's

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Speaker 2: trade and immigration policies has undercut demand for the supply

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Speaker 2: of workers, hampering the labor market. Now, this is a

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Speaker 2: bunch of bs because this phrase economists say lingering uncertainty

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Speaker 2: caused by President Donald Trump's trade and immigration policies. There

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Speaker 2: is nothing uncertain about Donald Trump's trade policies. His trade

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Speaker 2: policies since Independence Day back on April to second of

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, has been, and is and will be

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Speaker 2: a fair trade, not just free trade. None of this

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Speaker 2: nonsense of us not charging tariffs on our allies or

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Speaker 2: people are trading partners, and yet they have extremely high

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Speaker 2: tariffs preventing our goods from being sold in their country.

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Speaker 2: This is merely a leveling of the playing field. But

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Speaker 2: you would think that Donald Trump has just completely up

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Speaker 2: ended the entire economy, and for no apparent reason. Whereas

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Speaker 2: the idea that we have been become so dependent on

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Speaker 2: trying basically taking our jobs from here exporting them to

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Speaker 2: these other countries where they have more favorable working well,

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Speaker 2: more favorable regulations from the governments, They are subsidized, they

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Speaker 2: get more tax breaks, etc.

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Speaker 3: And so the people over there that.

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Speaker 2: Are creating the manufacturing and doing the manufacturing and sending

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Speaker 2: those goods over here are the the same goods that

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Speaker 2: we used to produce here. So instead of us producing

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Speaker 2: them internally keeping them internally, we have shifted the jobs

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Speaker 2: and job losses here because people haven't been transferred over there.

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Speaker 2: We've been hiring, and these companies been hiring people in

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Speaker 2: these foreign countries. They've been producing the goods sending them

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Speaker 2: back here to the United States.

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Speaker 3: And so when we send our goods.

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Speaker 2: There, they have these trade barriers there that we can't

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Speaker 2: get over, so we can't sell our goods there. Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump looked at this and said, this is ridiculous. If

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Speaker 2: we want to play high terraffs with us, we'll play

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Speaker 2: high terraff with them, which would force some of these

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Speaker 2: companies to reshore and bring them manufacturing back to the

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Speaker 2: United States. And now I'm hearing all these critics saying, well,

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Speaker 2: this talk about bringing jobs back to the United States

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Speaker 2: hasn't materialized yet because it appears as though some of

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Speaker 2: the jobs in the manufacturing sector have gone, you know,

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Speaker 2: or not, jobs aren't being filled. Do you honestly think

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Speaker 2: that you can just overnight take a manufacturing facility, build

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Speaker 2: the building. Well, first of all, acquire the land, build

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Speaker 2: bring in the machinery and equipment, hire the employees, and

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Speaker 2: then start construction in what two days, three days, four days? No,

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Speaker 2: it takes a period of time, and there's already been

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Speaker 2: indication of how many companies are moving to the United

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Speaker 2: States in order to take advantage of this. Now, the

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Speaker 2: other thing in here that the uncertainty over his immigration policy,

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Speaker 2: the policy of the immigration, as he said during the

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Speaker 2: campaign and as he continues to say today, is.

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Speaker 3: That a lot of people are here illegally.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people were undocumented, a lot of people

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Speaker 2: were not vetted, a lot of criminals came into this country,

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Speaker 3: People up to we were invaded.

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Speaker 2: And that his policy is is that he is going

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Speaker 2: to get rid of the worst first, and by the

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Speaker 2: byproduct of that, the people that are here illegally have

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Speaker 2: the opportunity to temporary, temporarily leave the country and come

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Speaker 2: back properly. Because when you have people coming in and

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Speaker 2: they say, you know, they keep talking about, well, these

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Speaker 2: people aren't criminals, well yeah they are because they broke

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Speaker 2: in here. If somebody trespasses in your house just because

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Speaker 2: they just because they haven't stolen anything, they haven't beat

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Speaker 2: anybody up, they haven't murdered anybody, the mere fact that

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Speaker 2: they're in your house has created a crime, and they

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Speaker 2: just can't sit on your couch and say, well, you know,

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Speaker 2: I haven't committed a crime. I shouldn't be deported from

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Speaker 2: this house. I mean, it's ridiculous. We have immigration policies,

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Speaker 2: we have I mean, I've talked about this on this

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Speaker 2: program numerous times how difficult it is to move to

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Speaker 2: another country unless you have a job over there and

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Speaker 2: you can support yourself here in the United States. This

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Speaker 2: wave of this invasion that came in, none of these

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Speaker 2: people had jobs. None of these people in some cases

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Speaker 2: had any manageable skills or whatever, and they have been

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Speaker 2: living off the generosity of the American people.

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Speaker 3: And that is just absolutely ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: We do not have a system in this country of

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Speaker 2: where we should just absorb the dregs of society, the

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Speaker 2: inefficient people from other countries. We want people that are

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Speaker 2: going to produce things in this country and just not

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Speaker 2: live off the taxpayers. But again, that's we could go

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Speaker 2: off on that subject for a long time. But the

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Speaker 2: fact is is that even with all of this stuff

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Speaker 2: going on, with the war in Iran, with high gas

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Speaker 2: prices and so on, the consumer confidence is high. Now,

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Speaker 2: I contrast that with University of Michigan that came out

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Speaker 2: their survey, the consumer sentiment that came out on where

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Speaker 2: the headlines we're talking about, shows a six percent drop

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Speaker 2: in consumer sentiment. Consumer sentiments slides to a three month

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Speaker 2: low as war fans, inflation fears, CBS News consumer confidence

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Speaker 2: tumbled in March as Americans.

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Speaker 3: Worry about the war. Let's see CNN.

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Speaker 2: Even wealthy Americans are souring on the economy as gas

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Speaker 3: Let's see Investipedia.

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Speaker 2: The Iran war is crushing consumer sentiment well amazingly that

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Speaker 2: the government survey that they do consumer confidence rises. The

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Speaker 2: consumer confidence was up, Let's see Consumer. The Conference Board

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Speaker 2: said the consumer Confidence index rose point eight points point

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Speaker 2: eight point to ninety one point eight this month. Economists

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Speaker 2: Because it shows the resilience of the American people that

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Speaker 2: they are not putting up with the nonsense. They're not

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Speaker 2: buying into this. And yet they're talking about job vacancy,

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Speaker 2: job openings and where they are that there's a number

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Speaker 2: all the different areas. Healthcare, job openings and so on

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Speaker 2: are down in various parts of the country. And yet

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Speaker 2: up to this point, all they've talked about and they

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Speaker 2: rightly sow that we were in a no higher, no

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Speaker 2: We didn't get to that because we were down at

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Speaker 2: the headlines were jobs are steady. In fact, the number

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Speaker 2: of job losses, number of initial claims came down. I

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Speaker 3: Of a stable labor market.

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Speaker 2: Now all of a sudden, Worritors comes by and talks

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Speaker 2: about the negativity of job openings, when in fact the

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Speaker 2: consumer confidence is high because again the resilience of the

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Speaker 2: American people. They understand what's at stake. They understand that

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Speaker 2: the gas prices are only temporary and that we need

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Speaker 2: to resolve this forty seven year old cancer in the

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Speaker 2: Middle East. I'm Kevin Gordon, America's truck in Network. By

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Speaker 2: the way, coming up, we're going to be talking to

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Speaker 2: Karen Houtman. She is with the Shell Rotella talking about

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Speaker 2: some of the changes going on with the new formulation

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Speaker 2: of oil, getting ready for the out the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: the market. I'm Kevin Gordon, America's truck in Network, seven

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Speaker 1: This is the Reathing Reward on America's A Network on

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Speaker 4: NASCAR recently announced the fifteen nominees for the NASCAR Hall

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Speaker 4: of Fame Class of twenty twenty seven. Kevin Harvick, the

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Speaker 4: twenty fourteen NASCAR Cup Series champion in two thousand and

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Speaker 4: seven Daytona five hundred winner, joins the Modern Era Ballad

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Speaker 4: in the first year of eligibility. Harvick spoke about the

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Speaker 5: Mike Helton came to our pre race set, and Mike

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Speaker 5: to have him come present that to me during the

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Speaker 5: where it all goes from here.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is the report on America's druging Network

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Speaker 2: She is Shell's OEM technical manager and chairperson of the

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Speaker 2: API team that is developing the next generation of heavy

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Speaker 2: duty diesel engine oil standards set to replace today's API

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Speaker 2: Case four.

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Speaker 3: I'll let you go into the details explain what this

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Speaker 8: Well, thanks for having me, Kevin.

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Speaker 9: We are API is upgrading the engine oil standard for

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Speaker 9: heavy duty engine oil happens about every ten years as

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Speaker 9: hardware evolves and the OEMs introduce new technology. We have

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Speaker 9: to keep the performance of the oil up to date

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Speaker 9: with that. So they came to us about five years

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Speaker 9: ago and said they were making some changes and that

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Speaker 9: they were requesting some additional improvements in the oil performance.

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Speaker 2: See, this is something I don't think people fully understand.

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Speaker 2: You just kind of threw it out there. Well, they

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Speaker 2: came to us five years ago, so we're now talking

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Speaker 2: about something that's been in development for five year period

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Speaker 2: of time. That has to go the specs and have

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Speaker 3: So this is not something that just.

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Speaker 8: So we're at the proposed eleven was ten years ago?

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Speaker 9: It is a big deal in the industry, but it's

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Speaker 9: You're really focused on fuel economy where before you were

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Speaker 9: So PC stands for proposed category, right, and we do

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Speaker 9: And back to that backward compatibility, we have to have

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Speaker 9: So the category was completely defined in December, which triggered

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Speaker 9: This isn't just an off the cuff change.

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Speaker 2: This as An america'struck A Network seven hundred WLW. I'm

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Speaker 2: Kevin Gordon continue our conversation with Karen Hollman. She is

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Speaker 2: Shels OEM technical manager and chairperson of the API team

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Speaker 2: developing this next generation of engine oils for heavy duty

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Speaker 2: and the requirements going into twenty twenty seven. And as

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Speaker 2: we talked about in the previous segment, not only is

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Speaker 2: I mean this is a five year process from when

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Speaker 2: it began, but then also the backwardation in terms of

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Speaker 2: making sure that this is compatible and the fact that

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Speaker 2: you have to do the testing and make sure that okay,

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Speaker 2: we're ready for this, but then we've got to be

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Speaker 2: able to use it for other things. So people, I

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Speaker 2: think I find it fascinating. I'm just I geek out

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Speaker 2: this kind of stuff. So again, now in terms of

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Speaker 2: what we're talking about in terms of performance benefits, what

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Speaker 2: are we what are we looking at as far as

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Speaker 2: this next generation and how that will affect and.

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Speaker 8: So some of the performance.

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Speaker 9: Improvements that you're going to see are primarily increased thermal stability, right,

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Speaker 9: so more resistance to oxidation, which will lead to the

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Speaker 9: possibility or the opportunity in some situations to be able

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Speaker 9: to extend your oil drain interval. So it reduces the

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Speaker 9: number of times that you have to take the truck

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Speaker 9: out of service for maintenance.

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Speaker 2: Another that's not just something that glaze over because when

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Speaker 2: your truck's off the road, you're not making money. So

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Speaker 2: if you can extend those oil interview interval oil drain intervals,

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Speaker 2: that actually adds more to your productivity and again helping

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Speaker 2: the engine perform and making sure you're on the road

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Speaker 2: a lot.

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Speaker 8: And we're uce is the costs and the amount of

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Speaker 8: oil that you're buying too.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, that's fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Now as far as now as far as people listening,

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Speaker 2: what are they Is there anything they need to do

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Speaker 2: to prepare for this?

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Speaker 9: Not specifically like I had mentioned earlier, if you're on

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Speaker 9: an oil that suits your knees, right, there's lots of

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Speaker 9: there's lots of choices out there, different viscosity grades, a

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Speaker 9: full synthetic synthetic blend. Are you trying to maximize fuel

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Speaker 9: economy or extend your oil drain intervals. As long as

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Speaker 9: you've you know, targeted your objectives and you're on a

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Speaker 9: product that you need to be on, then the only

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Speaker 9: preparation really is when you take your first delivery if

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Speaker 9: you're in.

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Speaker 8: A bulk, if you have you're taking in a bulk,

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Speaker 8: that you.

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Speaker 9: Drain the tank down so that you're not diluting it

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Speaker 9: with what you have, so that you're having a true switchover.

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Speaker 8: But other than that, unless.

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Speaker 9: You want to do another evaluation of it, Hey, is

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Speaker 9: there another strategy that I could should I lower my

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Speaker 9: viscosity because now I have a new truck and I

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Speaker 9: can get better fuel economy.

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Speaker 8: Uh huh, those kind of things.

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Speaker 2: So it's important to remember that, Okay, may have to

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Speaker 2: drain this out so that you're not diluting it since

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Speaker 2: you get the highest performance, because if you're if you're

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Speaker 2: blending two different grades and that type of thing.

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Speaker 3: That's right, it would it would that's right?

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Speaker 14: Now?

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Speaker 2: Is that that would create a problem or you just

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Speaker 2: wouldn't get the fuel or you wouldn't get the efficiency.

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Speaker 3: Of that that you would that you were expecting.

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Speaker 9: The way for you to get the maximum performance benefit

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Speaker 9: of the oil is to make sure that the bulk

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Speaker 9: of the oil that you have in that oil charge

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Speaker 9: is a single product.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Now, as far as people learning more about this, and

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Speaker 2: again the I guess the purpose of you know, making

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Speaker 2: sure that a product is compatible and making sure that

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Speaker 2: there's not a whole lot of They don't have to

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Speaker 2: be engine they don't have to be oil experts. But

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Speaker 2: if they want to know more about this and learn

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Speaker 2: more about it, what is the best way that they

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Speaker 2: can do that?

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Speaker 7: Sure?

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Speaker 9: Shootella has a website. It's called what is PC twelve

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Speaker 9: dot com? And that has all the information up to

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Speaker 9: date on what's going on and where we're at in

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Speaker 9: the process and what you need to do to prepare

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Speaker 9: and all the information that you would you would need

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Speaker 9: for understanding what the change is and what it means

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Speaker 9: to you.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and what is that? What is that website? Again?

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Speaker 8: What is PC twelve dot com?

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Speaker 3: C twelve dot com. Okay, that's good.

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Speaker 2: And then so just to touch on again, we're all

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Speaker 2: we mentioned in the last segment that you're talking in

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Speaker 2: terms of looking forward now to twenty forty in terms

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Speaker 2: of what may be coming in the line. Then based

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Speaker 2: on what we're seeing over in Europe and what they're

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Speaker 2: already doing over there and then filtering on over here.

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Speaker 2: So how's that process going or when is when are

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Speaker 2: you going to have? Is that a new roll out

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Speaker 2: or is that? Where do we stand with that?

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Speaker 9: No, I mean I think we're evolving towards lower viscosity.

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Speaker 9: The engine manufacturers are moving in that direction for better efficiency.

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Speaker 9: My crystal ball isn't exactly isn't.

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Speaker 8: Exactly clear really.

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Speaker 9: You know on when those those changes will happen. But

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Speaker 9: that's kind of the direction we're going.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we're speaking with Karen Hellman. She is

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Speaker 2: again the shell rotel Is technical manager and share a

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Speaker 2: person of the API team. Now, how many people just

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Speaker 2: to get an idea here, how many people have been

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Speaker 2: in at least in your team and the people involved

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Speaker 2: in this? How many people are involved in that? And

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Speaker 2: we're just talking about, you know, in your organization.

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Speaker 8: In our organization.

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Speaker 3: Well, I guess overall how many?

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Speaker 9: Well, just to give a little bit of perspective, the

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Speaker 9: API committee that focuses and is responsible for this change.

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Speaker 9: So there's about seventy five people that seventy five to

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Speaker 9: one hundred people that are stakeholders that come to the

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Speaker 9: meetings and provide their input and their concerns and kind

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Speaker 9: of guide the direction of where we're going.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again I can't emphasize I mean the fact

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Speaker 2: that you know so much details, so much a science,

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Speaker 2: so much testing, so much thinking and sitting communicating these

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Speaker 2: ideas and thoughts go into a particular product which then

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Speaker 2: goes ahead and benefits the trucking industry. And can't emphasize

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Speaker 2: enough that this will change the number of times at

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Speaker 2: drainage intervals, changing oil, changing more fuel efficient and so on.

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Speaker 9: So it's the testing is really fascinating. The dynamometer testing.

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Speaker 9: It's done in an ASTM format, and we're really what

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Speaker 9: we do is we change our production engine into a

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Speaker 9: test apparatus, right, so we identify what what parts of

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Speaker 9: the engine influence the tests, and then we restrict the

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Speaker 9: tolerances on those parts so that you know you're testing

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Speaker 9: the oil and not the engine, so that every engine

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Speaker 9: provides the same result moving forward.

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Speaker 8: So and that takes that in itself.

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Speaker 9: Developing one of those engine tests takes four or five

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Speaker 9: sometimes more years to develop the tests to be precise

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Speaker 9: where it's giving the same result every time. As expected.

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Speaker 9: It's a really elaborate process.

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Speaker 2: That is absolutely fascinating. Like I said, I geek out

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Speaker 2: on this kind of stuff. So the rollout of this

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Speaker 2: and the rollout date is going to be.

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Speaker 9: The first licensing date for PC twelve formulations is January first.

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Speaker 8: Twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 9: Okay, so you'll start to see products roll out after that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, fantastic. We've been speaking with Karen Hellman. She is

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Speaker 2: the Shell Roteller or shell oh technical manager and a

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Speaker 2: chairperson of this organization developing this next generation of heavy

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Speaker 2: duty engine oil standards. And I really appreciate you stopping

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Speaker 2: by taking time to speak with us this morning.

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Speaker 3: It's just amazing. I'm just blown away every time we talk.

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Speaker 2: We talked last year and talked about how the process

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Speaker 2: of this and now here we are a year later

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Speaker 2: getting closer to the actual date.

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Speaker 3: And then this rollout in January of twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: So I really appreciate you stopping by.

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Speaker 8: Well, thanks for having me, Kevin. It's always going to

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Speaker 8: chat with you.

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Speaker 2: Anything else we need to mention the people or just

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Speaker 2: give the website one more time.

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Speaker 8: Give the website a look.

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Speaker 9: It's called what is PC twelve dot com and we'll

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Speaker 9: give you all the information you need to know about

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Speaker 9: what's going on in this big industry change.

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Speaker 8: It's exciting, all right.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Karen, Thanks so much for stopping by. I'm

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Speaker 14: women will see the deadly disease return.

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Speaker 3: I knew when ovarian cancer recurs.

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Speaker 8: It's often incurable. It was terrifying waiting for the other.

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Speaker 14: Until recently, following chemotherapy, women with recurrent ovarian cancer had

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Speaker 14: Not on my watch. Now, with maintenance therapies, women can

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Speaker 12: Knowledge and awareness of your choices empowers.

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Speaker 8: Let's call for a change in ovarian cancer care.

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Speaker 14: The not on my watch movement empowers women facing recurrent

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Speaker 3: More college basketball back in the spot in.

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Speaker 2: America Structing Network seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 3: Thanks. It was a great conversation.

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Speaker 2: I had met Karen last year at the Mid America

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Speaker 2: Trucking Show and a lot of the information she has

699
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Speaker 2: about this rollout and the fact that new formulation and

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Speaker 2: I just geeked out on, as you could tell by

701
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Speaker 2: the interview, that the fact that you have to develop

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Speaker 2: a product that only handles the new engines that are

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Speaker 2: coming forth, but also being able to accommodate and not

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Speaker 2: adversely affect the older engines. And I just find the

705
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Speaker 2: technology and the stuff that goes into that just absolutely fascinating.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of oil and gas, we've gotten a couple of

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Speaker 2: shocks in terms of what that is doing as far

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Speaker 2: as the war with Iran, but some interesting developments which

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Speaker 2: we'll get to here.

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Speaker 3: West Texas Center.

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Speaker 2: By the way, if you missed our interview with Karen

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Speaker 2: it one hundred dollars one hundred and two dollars and

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Speaker 2: fifty four cents. That is down thirty four cents from yesterday,

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Speaker 2: or point three to three percent, well, basically one third

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Speaker 2: of a percentage point. Brent krude currently is one hundred

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Speaker 2: and eighteen dollars and sixty seven cents, up five dollars

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Speaker 2: and eighty nine cents or five point two to two percent.

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Speaker 2: Now that Brent krude is up there creeping, just touching

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Speaker 2: where the high was when the when we first did

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Speaker 2: epic fury that weekend and how prices spiked there and

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Speaker 2: then started coming down because it looked like, you know,

725
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Speaker 2: things were evening out. But with these attacks on ships

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Speaker 2: in the Strait of Hormuz and that still being a

727
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Speaker 2: sticking point, that is what's creating havoc as far as

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Speaker 2: the oil markets are concerned. Nationwide, gasoline prices actually for

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Speaker 2: the first time what since twenty twenty two have gone

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Speaker 2: above four dollars on national average, that is national average

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Speaker 2: is four dollars and almost four dollars and two cents

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Speaker 2: a gallon. Diesel currently is at five dollars and forty

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Speaker 2: five cents on a nationwide average. Now, the national high

734
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Speaker 2: is in California, and that has not fluctuated much. It

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Speaker 2: seems if you look at the highs and the lows

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Speaker 2: the California and what winds up being Oklahoma, that those

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Speaker 2: highs and lows haven't changed. It's what has changed is

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Speaker 2: in these various states in the middle in between the

739
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Speaker 2: highest and the lows, those prices have been going up,

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Speaker 2: which pushes the national average up. Nationwide high in California

741
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Speaker 2: is five dollars and eighty nine cents. That's a penny

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Speaker 2: higher than it was yesterday. And as far as Oklahoma,

743
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Speaker 2: which is the lowest at three twenty seven a gallon

744
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Speaker 2: is a penny higher than a was yesterday. So that's

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Speaker 2: not this big fluck fluctuation that we're seeing with gas

746
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Speaker 2: where it's pushing it the national average up a couple

747
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Speaker 2: of pennies or so. So finally, though, I mean the

748
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Speaker 2: gas price in national average wise is.

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Speaker 3: Over four dollars a gallon.

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Speaker 2: Now getting into taking a consideration of where we were

751
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Speaker 2: just a month ago, Basically at the beginning of this

752
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Speaker 2: we were at two dollars and ninety eight cents, which

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Speaker 2: means I think we were actually lower than that. I

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Speaker 2: think that might be a little bit off there, But anyway,

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Speaker 2: I know, gasoline prices before the war were down around

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Speaker 2: the dollars two dollars and sixty seven cents. So the

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Speaker 2: fact that they are now no, I think that two

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Speaker 2: dollars and ninety eight cents may have actually been accurate

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Speaker 2: because we're now a dollar two or three above that.

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Speaker 2: So it has increased gasoline prices by around fifty percent.

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Speaker 2: So I'm kind of misreading the numbers there. But last

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Speaker 2: month we gasoline is worth two dollars and ninety nine cents,

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Speaker 2: and now are at four dollars and one. Now, what

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Speaker 2: is going on? And I looking at some of the things,

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Speaker 2: and especially Phil Flynn's Energy report, I looked at that

766
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Speaker 2: and talking about we could be closer to the end

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Speaker 2: of the war in Iran than the beginning. The Wall

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Speaker 2: Street Journal is reporting that President Trump told AIDS that

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Speaker 2: he is willing to end the US military campaign against Iran,

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Speaker 2: even if the strait of horror moves isn't open.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people jumped on that and said more

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Speaker 2: or less a capitulation. But the way he put it

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Speaker 2: and the way he described it is is that we

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Speaker 2: don't rely on the oil coming through the Strait of

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Speaker 2: Horror moves to fuel our economy. Phil Flynn points out

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Speaker 2: the fact that China grabs about thirty eight percent of

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Speaker 2: all the flows. Now, mind you, twenty percent of all

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Speaker 2: oil goes through the Gulf There the Red and into

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Speaker 2: the Gulf of Aiden and on into the Indian Ocean.

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Speaker 2: China takes thirty eight percent of that oil. India takes

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Speaker 2: fifteen percent of that oil. Japan and Korea with more

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Speaker 2: than seventy percent of their oils coming from the Middle

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Speaker 2: East that they rely on. And Trump is saying that

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Speaker 2: there has been this call, there has been this scourge

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Speaker 2: in the Middle East for the last forty seven years

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Speaker 2: that everybody talks about, everybody wishes would end. Everybody has

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Speaker 2: wished that there was regime change. And you can go

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Speaker 2: back to every president since Ronald Reagan talking about how

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Speaker 2: there needs to be a regime change in Iran. Iran

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Speaker 2: as they were saying, we're getting closer and closer and

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Speaker 2: closer to developing a nuclear weapon, and some of the

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Speaker 2: reports coming out of the International Atomic Energy Association has

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Speaker 2: even stepped that up even further, saying that that they

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Speaker 2: were mere days away, days away, nine months, not years,

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Speaker 2: but days away from actually upgrading that uranium that they

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Speaker 2: had to weapons grade uranium and being up to about

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Speaker 2: ninety percent to where they could put.

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Speaker 3: That on a warhead.

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Speaker 2: And they already demonstrated, even though they said they didn't

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Speaker 2: have these missiles, that they could send a missile almost

802
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Speaker 2: three thousand miles away, which stakes into consideration, which stakes

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Speaker 2: in that loop there as far as many of the

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Speaker 2: European capitals. So we know that they lied about that,

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Speaker 2: and the Atomic Energy Agency has now indicated that they

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Speaker 2: lied about the amount of uranium they had and whether

807
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Speaker 2: it was being enriched. And can you imagine these nut

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Speaker 2: jobs over there having a new the first thing they

809
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Speaker 2: do would do would be, you think the holocaust of

810
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Speaker 2: six million Jews was bad? How about the entire state

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Speaker 2: of Israel being nuked by Iran? And they thought that

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Speaker 2: by lashing out at their neighbors that the neighbors would

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Speaker 2: join in, like they did years ago during the oil

814
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Speaker 2: embargo back in nineteen seventy four. But even these countries

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Speaker 2: have recognized the fact that, hey, things are a lot

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Speaker 2: better when there's peace. Things are a lot better when

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Speaker 2: we're selling our oil we're making money. Our people are

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Speaker 2: benefiting from that, but they don't benefit from us being

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Speaker 2: at war. They don't benefit as our people being killed

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Speaker 2: on the battlefield. We want to work with the people

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Speaker 2: in the Middle East to have peace. The only cancer

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Speaker 2: there is Iran. And what was interesting is that on

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Speaker 2: Fox and Friends yesterday morning, Jamie Diamond. Now Jamie Diamond

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Speaker 2: is the CEO.

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Speaker 3: Of Chase.

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Speaker 2: Chase Bank JP Morgan Chase, and it's tough for me. Well,

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Speaker 2: there are times when he says stuff that I just

828
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Speaker 2: want to argue and say I don't agree with. Then

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Speaker 2: there are other times that he speaks very clear and

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Speaker 2: common sense. And in this instance, he was on there

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Speaker 2: and he said, just dropped and this is a report,

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Speaker 2: just dropped, an unexpected take on Iran. Quote, it's much

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Speaker 2: more important that this be successfully completed than what the

834
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 2: markets do. Because everybody's talking about the stock market coming down.

835
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Speaker 2: Even though it was up around fifty thousand, it is

836
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: down to forty six. That's not been in correction mode,

837
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Speaker 2: et cetera. It has come down in value. But he

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Speaker 2: says it's more important to get this job done than

839
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Speaker 2: what the market does. It's more important than that. Diamond

840
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 2: says the markets are unpredictably right unpredictable right now. But regardless,

841
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 2: everyone should be hoping for the Trump, for Trump to

842
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 2: be to succeed in Iran. According to Diamond, this is

843
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Speaker 2: a quote I think the market, You know, markets are unpredictable,

844
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Speaker 2: and it's hard for me to tell you exactly what,

845
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 2: but I think they're just looking at this. There's a

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Speaker 2: chance that something can go wrong, and that's what they're

847
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 2: kind of banking on. They're not thinking in terms of success.

848
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Speaker 3: Now.

849
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Speaker 2: We should all hope that nothing goes wrong. We should

850
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: all hope that these bad people are you know, that

851
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: we win this thing and clean up the straits and

852
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 2: that there is no longer this threat to anybody. See again,

853
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 2: trying to be the person that dances around these issues.

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Speaker 3: You know what he's trying to say.

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00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: But based on his body language and the thing, if

856
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 2: you watch the interview now, you would hope that again

857
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 2: the markets will be concerned until it's over. But I

858
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 2: think it's very important. It's much more important that this

859
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: be successfully completed than what the market does. Wall Street's

860
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 2: most powerful CEO just said winning in Iran is more

861
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Speaker 2: important than what this stock market and in talking to

862
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Speaker 2: a lot of the people down at mattch what we're

863
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Speaker 2: seeing in terms of the consumer confidence, numbers of people

864
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Speaker 2: being happy, are being confident, what's going on that they

865
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Speaker 2: are taking in consideration that these higher gas prices might

866
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Speaker 2: be worth and are worth getting rid of a forty

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Speaker 2: seven year old cancer in the Middle East.

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Speaker 3: Well, folks, that does it for us. Stay tuned for

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Speaker 3: RETI Radio at Top the Hour.

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Speaker 2: I'm Kevin Gordon, americastruct A Network seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 6: What does the months long investigations report say with your

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