1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: There was a woman from the UK who flew to 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: Florida to be murdered. I'm not making that up. This 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: is a real story. The man is now in court. 4 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: Let's listen in and by the way, real quick before 5 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: I play a little bit of this segment from a 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: Fox thirty five in Orlando. How much money do you 7 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: think she paid to be murdered. I'm gonna guess ten 8 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. 9 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 2: I'll guess about five thousand dollars. 10 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: Only four grand. Oh now, and the guy was mad, 11 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 1: by the way too, he only got like a thousand bucks. 12 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: But anyways, let's listen to a little bit of the news, 13 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: shall we. 14 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 3: A woman in the United Kingdom posted on a fetish 15 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 3: website looking for someone to abuse and kill her, Dwayne Hall, 16 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 3: and that this man took her up on the offer. 17 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 3: Dwayne Hall is now facing charges for homicide and kidnapping 18 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 3: in case. A former detective called. 19 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 4: By the way, obviously, you're probably wondering what he looks like. 20 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: Just picture what a guy who would accept this deal 21 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: looks like my website, and it's what he looks like. 22 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 3: Bizarre and unthinkable. What were your thoughts when I called 23 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 3: you about this? 24 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 5: Case. You man, My first thought was wow, I literally 25 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 5: had been in this business thirty plus years. I have 26 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 5: never heard anything close. 27 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 4: To what this is a law enforcement expert, what you 28 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 4: had explained to me. 29 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 3: According to court documents, Hall told investigators he met Sony 30 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 3: eggs will be online a couple of years ago. If 31 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 3: Dae lisays Xillby flew from England to Gainesville on October tenth, 32 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 3: Hall picked her up and drove to an Airbnbxillb had 33 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 3: reserved in Reddick. Investigators say they found video on Hall's 34 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 3: phone taken the next day showing eggs will be covered 35 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 3: in cuts and bruises, with audio of Hall demanding eggs 36 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 3: will be verbally give consent to be stabbed. Detectives found 37 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 3: messages x will be sent a friend over discord that 38 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 3: day expressing regret. 39 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 5: It doesn't matter if the victim was willing or not 40 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 5: willing to be murdered. It is a against the law 41 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 5: to take anyone's life in a premitted fashion or play 42 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 5: in fashion. 43 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: Investigators, all right, I mean, so this is what I 44 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: want to ask, and you might be leading into what 45 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: I want to lead into. If you want to be murdered, 46 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: should that be legal? If you want to be murdered 47 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: in eight hundred and four, nine ninety three, ninety three, 48 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: think about like doctor Kavorkian, the doctor that you know, 49 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: ended the life of a lot of people. And by 50 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: the way too, you know, with those people, I believe 51 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: all of them, if not majority of them, they had 52 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: terminal illnesses. They were struggling, they were in pain, they 53 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: wanted to die, they did not want to. 54 00:02:58,919 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 4: Continue their life. 55 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 6: Hmm. 56 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 4: That guy got put into jail forever, right. 57 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, you got like life sentence or more. 58 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: And people debated that for a long time. They didn't 59 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: necessarily know if you should have gone to jail at all, 60 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 1: because these people are asking to die. Yeah, and you know, listen, 61 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: this could go in a lot of directions. 62 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 4: Listen, is pretty graphic. 63 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: You know, I want, I want you to stab me 64 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, which JAD gets a lot of 65 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: dms from girls about that, but they're not talking about 66 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: a knife. The question is, once again, if you want 67 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: that to happen to you, should it be legal for 68 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: people to do that? 69 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 4: I think it should be. 70 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: I think if this person wants to be taken out 71 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 2: a certain way and they're ready to go, and you 72 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: have some type of written paperwork and video of like, hey, 73 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: I'm okay with them doing this to me. Then the 74 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: person performing the act should not go to jail. 75 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: Can you look up on chat GPT if you go 76 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: to jail, if you attempt to kms but you fail, 77 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: if you attempt to unlive yourself and you fail, do 78 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: you go to jail for attempting to unlive yourself? 79 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 7: No, you cannot go to jail. 80 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 4: So then you just asked for assistance. Why would you 81 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 4: know exactly? AC? I see. The first thing is it's 82 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 4: a controversial question, you think, AC. 83 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, Well, I mean, do you remember doctor Krevorkian? Are 84 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 8: you guys not old? 85 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 7: I feel very old right now. 86 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 5: No. 87 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 4: While AC was calling in, I was talking about yes 88 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 4: I do. 89 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, yeah, So I mean I think that the 90 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 8: country is already decided that assisted compassionate suicide is illegal, 91 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 8: so obviously then optional or elective murder is also. I mean, right, 92 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 8: is that the precedent? 93 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: But also I mean it is And I am not 94 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: by any means saying that I agree with this. I 95 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: think this guy is sick human being for accepting it. 96 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 1: And I don't feel bad for the lady that died. 97 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: She wanted to die. 98 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 8: Do you think it was that he needed help committing suicide? 99 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 8: I mean, is that the ultimate reason that the defense 100 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 8: is saying that he's innocent. 101 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 4: Well, let's take a listening to more of this and 102 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 4: let's see. 103 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: Walked with Hall on October thirteenth and fourteenth, while Legs 104 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 3: Wilby was still considered missing and arrest. Report says he'd 105 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 3: tried to run her credit cards through his roadside assistance business. 106 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 3: He was arrested then for fraud. Her body was found 107 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: in Mary and Oaks three days later. 108 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 9: I agree under these circumstances that there is no condition 109 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 9: of a bond that would assure your presence in court 110 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 9: to keep the community. 111 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 5: Safe, and the facts of this case, there is a 112 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 5: large amount of evidence against. 113 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: You, but keeping the community safe, it seems like he 114 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: didn't do anything. 115 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: Where he went wrong was he was using her credit cards? 116 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: He was going to jail for fraud. Yeah, he messed 117 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 2: up doing that, Janessa, what do you think? 118 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 10: So we live in the state of Florida, and Florida 119 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 10: has a death. 120 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 4: Wait hold on, let me check something real quick. Yes, 121 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 4: we do check. 122 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 10: If so, what is it any different if it's when 123 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 10: you say premeditated like, you committed a whole bunch of 124 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 10: horrific crimes and you get the death penalty. How is 125 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 10: that not part of still wanting to die? And I 126 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 10: mean it's part of our law. 127 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 4: What? Oh? She hung up? What did she mean by that? 128 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 9: Hang up? 129 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: Can I make a quick note here, Jeanessa? Can you 130 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: call back in and explain them. I needed to get 131 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: that clarify. 132 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 7: Because I do want to make a quick note because 133 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 7: they do have this option available in Canada. It's called 134 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 7: made it's Medical Assistance in Dying. So here are the 135 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 7: people that qualify for this. You have to be eighteen 136 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 7: and older. You have to be a Canadian citizen or resident. Yeah, 137 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 7: it must have a grievous or ere irreversible medical condition, 138 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 7: and you must be capable of making informed decisions. 139 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: Say, I watched a documentary on Amazon. I'm pretty sure 140 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 2: it was in Canada where people it was just literally 141 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 2: people telling them that they wanted to It was assist 142 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 2: a suicide. They were ready to go. Most of them 143 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: were terminally ill. None of them are really young, but 144 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: they didn't go to jail. 145 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 4: What's up, Jay? 146 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 6: Hey? So it sounds to me a lady whom the 147 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 6: UK wanted to commit suicide but didn't want to do it. 148 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 6: In saying that if you are going through thoughts of that, 149 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 6: please seek help. I had a friend who unfortunately recently 150 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 6: had done that to himself. So if that's the case, 151 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 6: you know, please look for help. In regards to being 152 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 6: legal or illegal, I would say it would be illegal 153 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 6: because that would be considered insurance fraud because suicide isn't 154 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 6: covered by insurance by life insurance, but if you are murdered, 155 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 6: obviously that's covered. So the insurance wouldn't want that to 156 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 6: be allowed because then it's assisted suicide and then you know, 157 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 6: the beneficiary would get paid out for that party being murdered. 158 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: Interesting. All right, thank you Jay. All right, so we 159 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: have Genessa back, but her name is a Jenessa. It's 160 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: hey Vanessa. So say again what you were saying, because 161 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: I needed a little bit more clarification on that, and 162 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 1: one more time if you're just sharing radio in this 163 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: is the crazy story I've ever seen in my entire life. 164 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: A woman in the UK wanted to be murdered. She 165 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:58,359 Speaker 1: went on a fetish website. 166 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 4: Shocker. A guy in Florida answered it and he went 167 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 4: through with it. Right. So now he's going to jail. 168 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 4: The question is if she wanted to die? Did you 169 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 4: know what do we think? Vanessa explained? 170 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 9: Explain your point again, So, like we have it, we 171 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 9: have the death penalty, right, and then there are certain 172 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 9: people who get the death penalty in Florida, but there 173 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 9: are certain people that don't. So what is it any 174 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 9: different that we help kill people? Yeah, I mean we 175 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 9: do as a state. And then also like is he 176 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 9: going to get the death penalty for killing her? 177 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 2: I get what you're saying now, Like the state can 178 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 2: tell you when they can kill somebody, but if someone's 179 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 2: like I read to die, we can't kill that people. 180 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 7: Well, to be fair, they're also prosecuting people who've done 181 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 7: heinous crimes that are way and far worse than somebody 182 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 7: taking their you know what I'm saying. It's like they 183 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 7: they have victims. 184 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, but also there's been plenty of times where victim 185 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: there's been plenty of times where they've committed they not committed, 186 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 1: but they've sentence someone to the death penalty, and then 187 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: after they're dead, they find and that they never even 188 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: committed the crime. 189 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 7: True, but it's I mean that's the exception, not the rule. 190 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 9: Well, time to find out this guy committed a whole 191 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 9: bunch of other crimes. 192 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 4: Well, and that's where too. Yeah, yeah, that's where. 193 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: You know, it's pretty interesting, it is, Vanessa, Thank you 194 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: so much. 195 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 4: This is a story. 196 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: We're definitely gonna have to continue to uh follow along 197 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: because I've never seen anything like this before. But you know, 198 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: hat tip to our boss Tommy because he came and asked. 199 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: He's like, you have to watch this news story. And 200 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: the shocking thing too, is that only is four thousand 201 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: views online. You gotta watch a full YouTube video. And 202 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: shout out to Fox thirty five in Orlando for uh 203 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: playing that video. 204 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 4: Wow.