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Speaker 1: It's time for our weekly conversation with college football analysts.

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Speaker 2: Petros Papa nakas.

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Speaker 4: Alrighty, boys and girls, here we go.

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Speaker 2: Feels like it's been forever since I had a chance

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Speaker 4: Not around last week, but man, am I sure glad

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Speaker 4: to be back talking to him today. A sports talk

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Speaker 2: Hello, softy, how are you. Did you enjoy dick last week?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I loved it good.

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Speaker 5: Every once in a while, I gotta get a piece,

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Speaker 5: put my stalking on and stick it out in the gutter,

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Speaker 5: go to the red light district.

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Speaker 2: Oh God, you know I missed you, mane as I

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Speaker 2: was sitting there.

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Speaker 4: In the uh Wailea area of Maui, sitting on the

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Speaker 4: deck and joining a turkey club from the famous eight

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Speaker 4: oh eight Deli in Kei. Hey, I thought to myself,

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Speaker 4: this is fantastic, but man, it would be so much

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Speaker 4: better if I could just chat with my friend Petros didn't.

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Speaker 5: Oh, you didn't think that, You didn't think about me

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Speaker 5: at all, which I did. I'm glad you enjoyed your

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Speaker 5: time in Maui or annual or bi annual trip to

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Speaker 5: Hawaii with your lovely wife.

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Speaker 3: I hope it was everything you wanted to be. Welcome home.

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Speaker 4: Not much of it has changed what what the hell's

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Speaker 4: going on down there?

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Speaker 2: Am I?

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Speaker 3: Am?

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Speaker 2: I reading this right?

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Speaker 4: That like Lebron hates Luca? Is that what I'm seeing

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Speaker 4: from your Twitter account? I saw where you put a

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Speaker 4: video where Luca made some big shot and Lebron gave

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Speaker 4: him some kind of a staredown or whatever.

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 5: There's always all kinds of weird little videos of interaction

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Speaker 5: on the Lakers bench, and interaction between Lebron and his teammates,

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Speaker 5: and interaction with Bronny when he's there, and interaction with

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Speaker 5: JJ Reddick, who's a salty guy, like beef Jerky level salty.

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Speaker 5: So there's a lot of problem. He's very arrogant, salty,

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Speaker 5: good look and white guy. You don't want to hear

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Speaker 5: it from you, I mean, compared to him, you and

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Speaker 5: I are like the guy from Mask.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Rocky Dennis.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, come on man, yeah, man, I'm sorry. I know

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Speaker 5: you want to bring me a Loha spirit back to

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Speaker 5: Seattle Radio for a few weeks since you're in a

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Speaker 5: good mood. But anyway, it's yeah, it's a gnarly scene,

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Speaker 5: and the inevitable happens, and it happens locally, and it

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Speaker 5: happens nationally. The Lakers are kind of exactly where you

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Speaker 5: don't want to be in the NBA world.

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Speaker 3: And I don't need to.

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Speaker 5: Explain this to you, because well maybe I do, because

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Speaker 5: the only place you want to be in the NBA

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Speaker 5: world is.

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Speaker 2: Involved, That's right.

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Speaker 5: That's not having a team, yeah, but and having your

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Speaker 5: team stripped from you like clothes, your garnet garment just

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Speaker 5: rended in front of you.

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Speaker 2: Like a family member just yanked away, yeah, and.

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Speaker 3: Just ripped off. And now you're in the cold and the.

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Speaker 1: Way.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I have another point to make. Remind

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Speaker 3: me of it. But you don't want to be in

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Speaker 3: the middle in the NBA. Right.

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Speaker 5: When the Lakers have bad teams that come here, they

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Speaker 5: beat him. Any team that's kind of equal or better

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Speaker 5: than them, they lose. So if they have a couple

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Speaker 5: of games in a row against bad teams and they win,

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Speaker 5: the media cycle washes Lebron's balls and says how great

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Speaker 5: Lebron is because half of them work for Lebron or

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Speaker 5: don't want to fall out of favor with clutch sports.

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Speaker 5: And then when they lose a few games, the media

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Speaker 5: comes out and says Lebron's forty one what do you

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Speaker 5: want from him?

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Speaker 3: And lucas bitch.

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Speaker 5: He goes bitching at the refs and he is you know,

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Speaker 5: Luca does bitch a lot at the refs. But I

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Speaker 5: don't think Luca likes playing with Lebron. I don't think

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Speaker 5: Austin Reeves likes playing with Lebron. I don't think anybody

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Speaker 5: likes playing with Lebron. And I think I made this

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Speaker 5: analogy at some point on your show or not. It

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Speaker 5: does feel like Lebron is like a teenage kid who's

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Speaker 5: leaving for college and the parents just can't wait for

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Speaker 5: him to leave so they can remake that bedroom into

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Speaker 5: what they want, and they can't. I mean, how can

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Speaker 5: you do that when you have a guy who's forty

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Speaker 5: one years old who makes fifty million dollars on your roster.

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Speaker 5: You just you're not going to be able to win,

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Speaker 5: and he's not your best player by far, You're just

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Speaker 5: not going to be able. And La doesn't have enough

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Speaker 5: of a connection with Lebron for people to be comfortable

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Speaker 5: with the victory lap, kind of like Kobe took for

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Speaker 5: his final year, and there wasn't a lot of people

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Speaker 5: that love that either. But at least Kobe Bryant was

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Speaker 5: a Laker through and through. Lebron comes off as a

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Speaker 5: mercenary or a carpetbagger, and he's always trying to change

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Speaker 5: the narrative by something he says in the media, like,

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Speaker 5: I'm not a numbers guy. Dude, you literally wore a

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Speaker 5: shirt that said check my stats. There's pictures of you

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Speaker 5: checking your stats at halftime and during the game. Oh

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Speaker 5: come on, yeah, And then he says, well, you know,

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Speaker 5: I'm not. What was the other thing a couple of

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Speaker 5: years back, when Jay J. Redick was still a podcaster

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Speaker 5: and not an NBA head coach. JJ Redick was still

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Speaker 5: in the U ten area of coaching, and Lebron said

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Speaker 5: something to the effect of, you know, they had an

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Speaker 5: argument about, you know, what's this ring culture? Maybe it

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Speaker 5: was with Steve Nash, and I don't understand this ring.

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Speaker 5: You don't understand ring culture. The guy that has left

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Speaker 5: three different places chasing rings, the guy that counted on

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Speaker 5: his hand how many rings you were gonna get. I mean,

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Speaker 5: it's it's an amazing hypocrisy and we live it every

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Speaker 5: day here in LA. So it'll be fun when he's

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know, I'll miss him when he's

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Speaker 2: I miss talking about him. Yeah, anything else?

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Speaker 4: Oh god, I love it. What was your point? You

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Speaker 4: had a point about the Sonics or whatever you said.

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Speaker 4: Remind me when you were twisting the knife you said,

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Speaker 4: oh yeah.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: The the MLB, with all its problems or whatever, has

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Speaker 5: lurched past the NBA when it comes to sports national

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Speaker 5: sports popularity. The MLB has taken it, especially here in LA,

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Speaker 5: which is hard to believe because the Lakers are a

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Speaker 5: big deal. Wait, you're telling me that Major League Baseball

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Speaker 5: is more popular than the NBA across the country or

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Speaker 5: in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about both. Okay, is that true?

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Speaker 5: No? No, No, it's generally accepted that Major League Baseball

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Speaker 5: has made a comeback. ESPN hasn't helped. I mean, they

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Speaker 5: screwed up the Monday Night Baseball thing and they lost

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Speaker 5: that contract, and now the MLB is going to be

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Speaker 5: other places. But they have lurch But it's not because

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Speaker 5: the MLB is doing something so well. It's because the

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Speaker 5: NBA is so stupid and continues to stab themselves in

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Speaker 5: the genitals with an ice pick all the time, like

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Speaker 5: they had a great product and they've just they've found

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Speaker 5: different ways to destroy it year in and year out.

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Speaker 5: So I mean, these guys are traveling all over the place,

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Speaker 5: foul baiting all day and night, constantly complaining to the officials.

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Speaker 5: After every play they do whirl their finger like you

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Speaker 5: have to look at it at the appeal to the bench, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: to replay it, you know, like every receiver pops up

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Speaker 5: from a deep ball asking for a flag. It's I'm

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Speaker 5: over it. I think a lot of people are as well.

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Speaker 5: But uh yeah, the lebron thing couldn't end any sooner

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Speaker 5: here in LA. I just by the way, that that

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Speaker 5: ice pick to the balls thing that you just mentioned there,

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Speaker 5: that reminded me of remember the old Christopher guest Billy

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Speaker 5: Crystal skit on SNL back in the day, the old

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Speaker 5: I hate when that happens.

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Speaker 4: Yes, remember that vaguely when you get your tongue stuck

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Speaker 4: in a red hot project the bull.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I hear that.

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Speaker 3: I remember that.

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Speaker 5: I just look, that's a that's a dig that's a

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Speaker 5: deep digging there.

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Speaker 2: Soft just reminded him.

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Speaker 3: I am I to make an Ed Grimley reference.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I just looked it up on AI. MLB

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Speaker 4: is currently more popular than NBA in the United States

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Speaker 4: based on domestic television viewership, in person attendance, overall engagement metrics.

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Speaker 3: See, we're not making it up.

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Speaker 2: According to a post on Reddit, hey what.

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Speaker 5: You wouldn't know that because you're not really up with

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Speaker 5: the NBA, because y'all don't have a team.

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Speaker 3: You know what you man?

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Speaker 2: I have said here, hey.

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Speaker 4: It's coming soon, right, and I have let you take

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Speaker 4: shot after unwarranted shot, and I've had enough.

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Speaker 3: Careful Kates is here. He might play that Toronto game seven.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, shut up, Kates, And I take back what I

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Speaker 4: said about your daughter's wedding.

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Speaker 3: Oh, come on, it was a nice event.

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Speaker 2: Did you go? Were you there?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 3: I wasn't invited.

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Speaker 4: Really, your producer did not invite you to his own

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Speaker 4: daughters outside the states.

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Speaker 2: Gee, I wonder it was outside the states?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Were they underage?

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Speaker 3: He talk?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they went down to Utah.

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Speaker 2: I had to leave the state line to pull it off.

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Speaker 5: Ruby's pretty. Ruby's only about twenty four. But the husband

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Speaker 5: guy like is like a much older man. Oh God,

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Speaker 5: rayer hair than me. You know what I watched by

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Speaker 5: the little awkward, I thought that the dance was the

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Speaker 5: daddy daughter dance.

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Speaker 3: When I saw video.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: But you know, Katese's daughter's pretty interesting girl.

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Speaker 5: She got a big neck tattoo the night before the

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Speaker 5: wedding of Bob BIG's Boys. Bob's Big Boys, you know,

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Speaker 5: because Bob's big boy. The wedding, Well, no, it's big

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Speaker 5: here in Burbank and that's where she's from. And she,

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Speaker 5: you know, she wanted to remember her home. So she

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Speaker 5: got a big Bob's Big Boy tattoo in her neck

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Speaker 5: and the husband didn't see it until he did the veil.

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Speaker 3: It was Bob No no young in there.

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Speaker 2: Oh he endorsed.

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Speaker 3: Who doesn't love burgers and shakes them fry?

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Speaker 4: What happened with this? Chad Baker Miszaara guy at USC.

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Speaker 5: He got kicked off the team. He's twenty six years old.

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Speaker 5: I don't believe it's the first team that's kicked him off. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he sell Wait, I saw a post on Twitter.

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Speaker 5: He says he's forty two years old, and yeah, somebody

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Speaker 2: Has six kids. That was false. That's not that's not true.

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Speaker 5: He does look like sideshow Bob, and he did throw

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Speaker 2: So he decides, he just says I'm done.

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Speaker 5: He fell down, he was, He went over and sat

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Wow, And are they still paying them that money or

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Speaker 4: I hold not that money? You can retrieve, you should

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm sure they're going to get there at some

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Speaker 5: point with the I mean, you guys dealt with it

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Speaker 5: But usually these guys get to keep their money and

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Speaker 5: no accountability necessary. Twenty six years old, straight out of

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Speaker 5: the Dominican No, I don't, but yeah, he's gone off

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Speaker 5: the team. I'm more of a mc cronin UCLA basket.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say I saw your boy, Mick cronin. Gee,

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Speaker 2: what day is it?

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Speaker 4: Oh cronin's bitching again about something he was whining last night.

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Speaker 5: But oh we're gonna get I say this on your

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Speaker 5: show again. We got Let me let me reiterate seen.

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Speaker 2: The Grand Canyon ten times this year.

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Speaker 3: It's a statue of liberty.

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Speaker 5: Let me let me reiterate my stance on Mick cronin

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Speaker 3: I'm on mc cronin's.

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Speaker 5: Side, so out side of all that, that's you've got

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Speaker 3: That is the that is the line that he could

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Speaker 2: Why why are you kissing his ass so.

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Speaker 7: Much petros and money to best show him down?

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Speaker 2: Because he says nice things about the show.

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Speaker 3: Did you hear that? You got a TV?

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Speaker 2: You said that on TV? I did hear that?

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Speaker 5: Why just ask the question because he likes the show.

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Speaker 5: Listen to me, he's a little punk ass bitch. No, yeah,

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Speaker 4: If so. I saw what he did to that reporter.

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Speaker 4: That was ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: You're raising your voice in me? Are you raising your voice?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you sound like you're doing it right now.

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Speaker 2: What the hell was that?

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Speaker 5: You don't me jealous just because your team sucks up

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Speaker 5: with your weird white guy coach. I wouldn't say Sprinkle's weird.

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Speaker 5: He is a white guy though his name Sprinkle. Well,

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Speaker 5: how about Micky Mick.

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Speaker 3: He's an irishman.

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Speaker 5: He's got a fist and a bottle of bush Mills

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Speaker 2: Yeah, whiny s ob just complains about everything.

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Speaker 3: I told you. Where the line is.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, fat white girl pregnant, all right, butterknife to

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna find a fat one chick to go flirt with.

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Speaker 3: Me until that happens. I don't think he's into white

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Speaker 4: Oh God, how much NFL free agency? He told me alone?

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Speaker 5: No mud, The one thing I heard was Ferdy Mendoza

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Speaker 3: Why why you feel bad for Ferdy?

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Speaker 2: Because I didn't go into the Raiders is going to

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Speaker 4: Well, don't look what it did for your guy, Geno. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Holt ruined Pete Carroll. Did you hear that Lou Holts died? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: very sad, man eighty, that's terrible, man. Lou Holtz died,

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Speaker 3: Oh thank god.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Darryl Russell, God rest his souls out there running around.

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Speaker 5: But then he went on to coach at South Carolina.

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Speaker 5: Remember he went back. He was at Arkansas too, but

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Speaker 4: That's sad. News man, one of the one of the

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Speaker 2: All right, we gotta run.

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Speaker 5: All right, Softy, We'll have fun with Florio. Good job man,

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Speaker 5: the Undertaker.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna break a lot more to get to on

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Speaker 4: a busy What is this Wednesday? On ninety three to

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Speaker 1: Our foundation specialist broadcast studio. Now back to Softi and

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Speaker 1: Dick on your home for the Huskies, Kraken and the

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Speaker 2: All right, we're back on a busy Wednesday.

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Speaker 4: Jordan reff At, former Husky defensive lineman, going to join

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Speaker 4: us coming up about five thirty or so. Talk some

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Speaker 4: coming up at five point thirty, and how you can help,

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Speaker 2: During this time, JT.

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Speaker 4: The Brick is going to hop on with us for

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Speaker 4: a few minutes at six and talk about Max Crosby

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Speaker 4: with Trey Hendrickson, what are their kind of early views

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Speaker 4: on Clint Kubi Act down there in Vegas as well.

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Speaker 4: Before Everett fits you, not ever it fits me, not

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Speaker 4: ever it fits us, Ever it fits you, will join

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Speaker 4: us before the crack and take all the blues Tonight

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Speaker 4: six thirty pre game seven o'clock face off tonight right

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Speaker 4: here on ninety three three RFN. Now the big news

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Speaker 4: today if you're just tuning in right now, Adam Schefter

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Speaker 4: reporting that the Seahawks and Rashid Shiheed are not close

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Speaker 4: to a deal and that he expects Rashid Shaheed to

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Speaker 4: be hitting the market on Monday and testing free agencies.

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Speaker 4: So not a gigantic surprise because of all the contract

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Speaker 4: numbers we've heard tossed around with Shiheed. The numbers seem

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Speaker 4: I think we need to kind of revisit this again

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Speaker 2: At four nine, four to five one.

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Speaker 4: How big of a blow would it be to lose

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Speaker 4: a guy like Rashid Shiheed, And frankly, between him and

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Speaker 4: Kenny Walker, which one's more important? Which one's more important?

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Speaker 4: This football team's chances of repeating next year? Number twenty

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Speaker 7: Oh, I think it's nine with a bullet. Okay, absolutely.

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Speaker 7: I mean you don't have a replacement for Kenny Walker

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Speaker 2: Now. You may get one, but you don't have one

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Speaker 7: You literally have nobody in the backfield in George Halatti, Yes,

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Speaker 7: to run the football right now, Rashid Shaheed, you know, yes,

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Speaker 7: talk about Tory Horden's injuries all you want. Tory Horden

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Speaker 7: looked really good and scored five touchdowns receiving last year

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Speaker 7: Tory Orton to me, I mean to my eyes, and

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Speaker 7: to Hugh Millen's eyes. More importantly, just a way better

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Speaker 7: all right, Jackson.

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Speaker 6: I don't anythink it's remotely close, like it's this is

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Speaker 6: that RASI heat is like a.

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Speaker 3: Reality.

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Speaker 6: Give a dime, like one of these players is outstanding

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Speaker 2: He helped us win a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 6: The other guy is, you're starting running back like Sharpney.

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Speaker 6: If we don't forget like that's a very good compliment player.

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Speaker 6: But if anybody is going into twenty twenty six this

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Speaker 6: September saying to themselves, yeah, Charbonney coming off of a

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Speaker 6: I if anybody is thinking that, then I would like

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Speaker 7: Even if he wasn't coming off an injury and that

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Speaker 7: I'd be very nervous about that.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he he led the team in rushing

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Speaker 4: I mean to say that he's a nothing is ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: Well, but so was Kenny Walker up until like week fifteen, right,

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Speaker 4: I Mean, let's not forget that that Kenny Walker took

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Speaker 4: I do think that what worked guys last year was

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Speaker 4: very very well. So I think, Dick, you're right that

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Speaker 4: obviously Kenny Walker is more important than Rashid Shaheed. But

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Speaker 4: the idea that you know they don't have anybody, I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's march right. They're not going to start George Hallani

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Speaker 4: back room. They're going to trade for people, draft people,

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Speaker 4: sign people. How about that for analysis? So I'm not

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Speaker 4: about is if they do lose Rashid Shihed and they

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Speaker 4: can they get better somewhere else on the team that

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Speaker 4: special teams. I'm not that concerned about losing Shiheed as

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Speaker 4: wonder what Rashid Shihed looks like with another year with

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Speaker 4: Sam Darnold. And I also wonder if maybe the Seahawks

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Speaker 4: at times we're not using this guy properly. I mean,

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Speaker 4: call two or three plays a game for Rashid Shihed

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Speaker 4: as a running back, and that just didn't happen. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I can remember in my mind's eye multiple examples, including

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Speaker 4: one in the Super Bowl, by the way, and I

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Speaker 4: don't know whose fault this was. You could add Milan

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Speaker 4: about that where Sheid sh Heed had beaten this man

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Speaker 4: by two or three steps and Sam Darnold missed him,

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Speaker 4: either overthrew him or just flat out missed him. I mean,

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Speaker 4: the guy's a frickin burner man. So I'd like to

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Speaker 4: find a way to harness that if possible.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, Yeah, I mean I have a hard time figuring

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Speaker 7: out how we're gonna have an explosive play rate as

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Speaker 7: good as we had last year. If you take away

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Speaker 7: two of your three most explosive rate players, right, and

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Speaker 7: that's right, Ken Walker, Rashid Jiheat, you only only leaves

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Speaker 7: you with Jackson's Smith the Jake.

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Speaker 2: But I mean Cooper Cup ain't getting any explosive plays.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 2: Tory Horton.

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Speaker 7: Tory Horton could probably probably replace Rashid seats and maybe

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Speaker 7: even more so, but Ken Walker's explosive plays, I don't

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Speaker 7: think you're getting twenty seven yard runs from Jackson, Zach Scharbonay.

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Speaker 2: Too bat and then he mine.

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Speaker 6: We've also seen Charboney own a backfield when Kenneth Walker

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Speaker 6: isn't healthy. And there's been a lot of occasions where

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Speaker 6: Kenneth Walker has not been healthy and Charbone has been fine.

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Speaker 2: He's been solid.

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Speaker 6: But we're not talking about a guy who we think

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Speaker 6: can take twenty five carries a game out that he's

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Speaker 6: just not that guy. We've and we have a proof

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Speaker 6: to see that of the many occasions.

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Speaker 4: Don't think Nny Walker's that guy either over the course

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Speaker 4: of a seventeen game season. He is that guy over

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Speaker 4: the course of a month and a half, but not

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Speaker 4: seventeen games. I mean, how many times did we say

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Speaker 4: when Zach Sharperney went down, Hey, we need Kenny Walker

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Speaker 4: to carry the load, and well he doesn't do that.

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Speaker 2: Well, he can do it.

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Speaker 4: For a month, right, We're not asking the guy to

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Speaker 4: do it for seventeen games. I just saw a tweet

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Speaker 4: from Brady Henderson who said one agent he spoke to

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Speaker 4: said he thought Shiheed could get up to eighteen million

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Speaker 4: dollars a year, which is five million more than they're

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Speaker 4: paying Cooper Cups. Okay, they're not paying him eighteen million

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Speaker 4: dollars a year. So hey, look, I mean, guys, this

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Speaker 4: is the price of winning a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: We're starting to kind of remember what happened in twenty thirteen,

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Speaker 4: in twenty fourteen, when everybody wanted the money. He'd be

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Speaker 4: great if she he'd had one more year left. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you guys, remember when Shaheed came here. You remember what

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Speaker 4: he said at this press conference. He's gonna be here. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: he's gonna resign. Wait, he kind of figured he would.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he gave a fourth and fifth up for him,

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Speaker 4: he kind of figured that.

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Speaker 7: He that he but he was a pivotal piece had

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Speaker 7: he not returned the kick against the Rams.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I mean we probably would.

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Speaker 7: End up resign him because I think that's gonna make

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Speaker 7: him millions of dollars. I mean, on a national television game,

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Speaker 7: biggest regular season game in the entire NFL this season,

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Speaker 7: and he makes basically the game saving play.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the question.

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Speaker 4: Can Rashid Shihed do for you next year what he

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Speaker 4: did for you again this year? And that has be

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Speaker 4: the difference between winning and losing a game that gets

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Speaker 4: you the number one seed.

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Speaker 2: He absolutely can't potential.

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Speaker 4: So you're going to be fighting for the with the

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Speaker 4: Rams again, which I think we all think they will

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Speaker 4: be right tooth and nail for the NFC West Championship,

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Speaker 4: And it's going to come down to how you perform

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Speaker 4: in one game. Can Rashid Shiheed's presence on the roster,

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Speaker 4: even at thirteen fourteen million dollars a year, can he

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Speaker 4: at some point pick a opportunity to earn all of

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Speaker 4: that money on one night?

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Speaker 6: So yeah, and the key wording there is at thirteen

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Speaker 6: fourteen million dollars. Yeah, that's that's that's what we're talking

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Speaker 6: about here, guys. We're talking about the cost of this, right,

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Speaker 6: And if the cost of that one game is thirteen

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Speaker 6: fourteen million dollars, right, I'm sorry, I just don't think so.

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Speaker 6: When Tory Horton can put up not comparable but just

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Speaker 6: he's he's, he's, she he'd light, then I want to

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Speaker 6: say that thirteen fourteen to spend on a Kenneth Walker,

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Speaker 6: to spend on a new right guard, to spend on

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Speaker 6: a new cornerback, I want that thirteen fourteen million to

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Speaker 6: go somewhere where I think it can be better spent

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Speaker 6: for a championship.

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Speaker 2: Where's the deal?

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Speaker 5: Though?

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Speaker 2: How many games did he miss his last year at

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Speaker 2: the in college?

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Speaker 3: Seven?

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Speaker 2: Seven?

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Speaker 4: So he's missed seventeen games? Yeah, I know, right, I'm sorry, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: seventeen because he missed the last seven and the three

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Speaker 4: playoff games. At seventeen games in two years he's missed.

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Speaker 4: That's not enough to think. No, I get that, And

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Speaker 4: that's the thing.

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Speaker 6: It ultimately just comes down to, can that thirteen fourteen

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Speaker 6: million better be spent towards a championship at other positions?

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Speaker 3: And I think it can.

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Speaker 2: The number one thing.

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Speaker 7: I like about both of our general managers, probably more

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Speaker 7: than anything, is that they they share my belief that

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Speaker 7: you absolutely do not pay good players very good to

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Speaker 7: great money, and neither one of our gms do that,

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Speaker 7: and I love that, and it puts them in really

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Speaker 7: good financial standing year after year after year after year. Now,

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Speaker 7: obviously that means more in football than it does in baseball,

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Speaker 7: So there's no capt John. John Schneider does an excellent job.

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Speaker 7: We never see the Seahawks all. They're forty million dollars

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Speaker 7: under the cap. And they got to restructure three guys

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Speaker 7: like the Cowboys did today. That never happens in Seattle.

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Speaker 4: Well, and part of that is because they haven't paid

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Speaker 4: a quarterback big money for like five years now, right ever,

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Speaker 4: since Russell Wilson took off.

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Speaker 2: And you're totally right. I mean, you said it yourself

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Speaker 2: that it's just a different game.

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Speaker 4: I mean, John Schneider's got to work way harder than

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Speaker 4: Jerry Depoto does because there's a freaking cap.

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously Jerry's.

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Speaker 7: Got a cap too, it's just a different cap by John.

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Speaker 2: Jerry's got to be really hard to sometimes harder.

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Speaker 4: I gotta be honest with you, and I understand what

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Speaker 4: you're saying about the attitude that both of those guys have.

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Speaker 4: I do wonder if Jerry Depoto had a different owner,

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Speaker 4: if he would love to have a different attitude, you know,

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Speaker 4: if he was working for the Red Sox or working

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Speaker 4: for the Mets, or working for the Dodgers or whoever. Right,

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Speaker 4: I mean, is that like, does Jerry Depoto wake up

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Speaker 4: and think that, like, I'm just not doing this, or

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Speaker 4: does he wake up and think that because he has

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Speaker 4: no other choice to do something like that's with his personality.

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Speaker 2: It fits with the ownership for sure.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think even if Jerry Depoto was the

577
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Speaker 7: you know, the GM of the Phillies, I still don't

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Speaker 7: think he would just be good because he really loves

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Speaker 7: developing talent and he doesn't like to block. He doesn't

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Speaker 7: want to spend ten years, three hundred and twenty million

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Speaker 7: dollars on a guy that may only have four good

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Speaker 7: years left when he loves to develop talent and bring

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Speaker 7: up young plays.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I think every GM loves developing young

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Speaker 4: talent because it doesn't cost anything and you can spend

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Speaker 4: that money elsewhere. I just wonder if he would ever

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Speaker 4: feel differently, if he would ever have the opportunity to

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Speaker 4: go work for a franchise that's got the person rate

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Speaker 4: that like Toronto, even Toronto right Toronto spent like what

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Speaker 4: eighty more million dollars in the Mariners did a year ago,

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Speaker 4: whatever it was. And I mean he's not even obviously

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Speaker 4: as a general manager, I mean, no disrespect, but he's

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Speaker 4: not even in Schneider's stratosphere as a GM. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Jerry Schneider is one of the best executives in the

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Speaker 4: history of football. Jerry's got to make a world series

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Speaker 4: before we can even talk about that. But maybe this

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Speaker 4: is the year to do it all right, here's what

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Speaker 4: we'll do. We'll get a break.