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Speaker 5: At six h nine seven hundred WLW Welcome in rn

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Speaker 5: L Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. I'm Lance McAllister.

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Speaker 5: Glad to have you here. Settle in and get warm.

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Speaker 5: We've got three hours to get it done tonight. Let's

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Speaker 5: start with the headlines so we can go. We begin

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Speaker 5: with the Reds down on the Farm News. Julio Mario

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Speaker 5: is the new manager of the Dayton Dragons. He replaces

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Speaker 5: Vince Harrison Junior, who will serve as coach with another

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Speaker 5: Red's affiliate after serving two years as Dayton's manager. Mario

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Speaker 5: is a former catcher who played for the Dragons in

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Speaker 5: twenty fourteen and twenty fifteen. More Baseball News, Trade Front

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Speaker 5: Nationally Central News. The Brewers trade all star pitcher in

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Speaker 5: seventeen game winner Freddie Peralta to the Mets, and a

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Speaker 5: deal with nets them two of New York's top prospects.

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Speaker 5: Peralta will make about eight million this year, but becomes

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Speaker 5: a free agent at the end of the coming season,

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Speaker 5: they weren't going to be able to re sign him.

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Speaker 5: In other news, the Nationals deal All star pitcher Mackenzie

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Speaker 5: Gored of the Rangers in a five for one. The

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Speaker 5: Nationals get the Mets prospects ranked number two, six, twelve, sixteen,

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Speaker 5: and eighteen in their system. NFL News Tampa Bay hiring

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Speaker 5: Atlantic coordinator Jack Zach Robinson for its OC position. Robinson

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Speaker 5: will be Tampa Bay's fifth offensive coordinator in five seasons,

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Speaker 5: the fourth and four years for quarterback Baker Mayfield. Bengals

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Speaker 5: offensive coordinator Dan Pitcher had interviewed for the Tampa Bay opening,

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Speaker 5: as had former Titans head coach Bengals OC Brian Callahan.

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Speaker 5: I'll ask James Rapine what it all means coming up

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Speaker 5: around six point thirty five and other NFL news get

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Speaker 5: their guy. New head coach Jesse Minter, the son of

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Speaker 5: former Bearcats coach Rick Miner, Congratulations to him. Christian McCaffrey,

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Speaker 5: Josh Allen, Trevor Lawrence, Drake may and Matthew Stafford. Finalist

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Speaker 5: McCaffrey also up for offensive Player of the Year and

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Speaker 5: Comeback Player of the Year. It's the first time that

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Speaker 5: a player has been a finalist in all three categories

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Speaker 5: in the same season. NFL Conference Championship Sunday Patriots at

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Speaker 5: the Broncos at three Rams at the Seahawks at six thirty.

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Speaker 5: Both games right here. On seven hundred WLW Tennis, Novak

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Speaker 5: Djokovic wins his three hundred and ninety ninth Grand Slam

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Speaker 5: match of the Australian Open Today. The thirty eight year

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Speaker 5: Pride of Sharonville Connor Kurrn. He's qualified for the US

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Speaker 5: Olympic ski team. He compete in the aerials and on

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Speaker 5: the ice. Tonight, the Blue Jackets hosting the Stars. Remember

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Speaker 5: running still ahead tonight between now and nine o'clock. Got

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Speaker 5: plenty of Reds to get into. We'll get into the

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Speaker 5: idea of how to infuse some more, some more stuff

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Speaker 5: into this Reds offense. You're gonna hear something that Brandon

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Speaker 5: Williamson told me from Redsfest. You're gonna hear something that

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Speaker 5: TJ and Tone told me from Reds Fest. Will debate

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Speaker 5: trading at arm for a bat as it relates to

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Speaker 5: the Reds. I've got some Bengals to get to. We'll

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Speaker 5: recap you see in Xavier last night and more. But

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Speaker 5: up next he's one of the greatest musketeers of all time. Saturday,

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Speaker 5: they will raise his numbernumber fifty two, to the ceiling

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Speaker 5: the rooftop at Sentas Center to Holloway joins me. After this,

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Speaker 5: it's RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven

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Speaker 5: hundred WLW. Saturday afternoon, it's Xavier Saint John's two thirty

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Speaker 5: a Xavier Legend twenty twelve grad An elite clutch player

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Speaker 5: who led Xavier. Help lead Xavier to four NCAA tournament births,

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Speaker 5: three sweet sixteens. He is seventh on the school's all

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Speaker 5: fifty two will be retired on Saturday. We'll hang permanently

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Speaker 5: in the Centas Center, joining ten existing banners from more

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Speaker 5: on that, Let's go straight to the source and welcome

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Speaker 5: in to Holloway, to Lance Bacallister, how are you.

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Speaker 6: I'm fine, Thanks for having mey Man.

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Speaker 5: Congratulations. I'm sure is this gets closer, It's sinking in

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Speaker 7: What does all this mean to you?

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, it's just a great armor for my

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Speaker 5: To what are you as you look back at your career?

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Speaker 5: What what are you most proud of? Or what do

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Speaker 5: as a musketiner.

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Speaker 6: You know, when I got to Zaviye, we talked about

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Speaker 6: you know, I'm just really proud that I was able

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Speaker 2: Four years in a row.

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Speaker 6: Every year I was there, you know, three three Sweet sixteens.

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Speaker 6: You know, my freshman, sophomore, and senior year. We made

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Speaker 6: I'm just want to be remembered to be a winner,

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Speaker 6: and you know, that's really what I'm proud of, just

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Speaker 5: I think when people think of you, they think of

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Speaker 5: someone who loved pressure moments when the game was on

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Speaker 6: So yeah, I think it became a thing. So you know,

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Speaker 6: I set into it like all right, I guess people

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Speaker 5: Basically, some may have forgotten you originally signed with Indiana.

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Speaker 6: Well, I was. I came to Cincinnati, Ohio to go

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Speaker 5: Man, that classic saying things happened for a reason.

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Speaker 2: I mean, think of it.

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Speaker 5: I mean it had to have turned out pretty much

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a blessing. You know, I was. I was

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Speaker 6: a great career.

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Speaker 5: Look ahead to Saturday for us, Well, I assume you'll

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Speaker 5: I understand Miami coach Travis Steele is hoping to be there.

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Speaker 5: Tell listeners about your connection and relationship with Travis.

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Speaker 6: Well, I've had coach Steel and he was I think

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Speaker 6: he was a graduate assistant at NYU. That's when I

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Speaker 6: You know, it was just we had a connection between us.

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Speaker 6: Just you know, he was very entered into in my

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Speaker 5: To What did somebody like sister Rosene Fleming mean to

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Speaker 6: So it's like Friday in the summer time in July,

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Speaker 6: She's like no, you got to come to my office

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Speaker 2: To Holloway check it in. Uh he'll happy.

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Speaker 5: Is number fifty two retired on Saturday at CENTA Centers

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Speaker 5: that take on Saint John's Give me an idea of.

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Speaker 8: You have?

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Speaker 5: You have so many moments in your career from Kansas State.

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Speaker 5: I was thinking of the Purdue game today. Is there

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Speaker 2: Mind when when I talking about your finest moments?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I would have to say my sophomore year of

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Speaker 6: the Cincinnati game when I think we won in double

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Speaker 5: Do you still keep in touch with some of your teammates.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I keep in touch with all of my teammates

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Speaker 5: Let's talk play calling and more. Who better to do

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 10: I'm doing well?

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Speaker 6: How are you.

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Speaker 10: It is the the James Rapine sportsbook on would certainly

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Speaker 10: So it's interesting one. How much does the organization value

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Speaker 10: And is he worth it enough knowing that if he

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Speaker 10: I don't know if this is a Zach issue, and

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Speaker 10: But is Zach Hill then on calling plays? Is Joke

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Speaker 10: He would And I think it's social media. I hope

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Speaker 5: James's is there something to this angle I'm about to

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Speaker 10: And it's funny because I think when the Zach Taylor

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Speaker 10: He's a super human computer. And by the way, I

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Speaker 10: I'm getting a little bit of course. At the same time,

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Speaker 5: All right, take me back to Monday night National Championship game.

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Speaker 5: You're always looking at things through the prism of a draft,

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Speaker 10: Lance and Bain, as in Ruben Bain Junior, is exactly that.

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Speaker 8: I mean.

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Speaker 10: Can you imagine at pay Course Stadium you roll in

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Speaker 10: a clip of The Dark Knight Rises, whereas ah you

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Speaker 10: think darkness is your ally and it's ruben Bain June

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Speaker 10: I can and I see it right now. I hope

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Speaker 10: he has twenty seven in charms because I really don't care.

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Speaker 10: I hope he's there at ten. And I haven't done

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Speaker 10: much of my draft research yet, much of my draft

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Speaker 10: fret but you better believe that ruben Bain is going

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Speaker 10: to be around the top of the list for candidates

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Speaker 10: with that temp overall pick all.

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Speaker 5: Right, last question, Always enjoy our conversations. They've re up

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Speaker 5: taken care of Tanner Hudson. You know the fan favorite

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Speaker 5: for an extension is somebody like Dalton Riisner.

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Speaker 2: Does that make sense? Could you see that getting done?

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Speaker 10: Better get done?

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Speaker 2: It better get done, and.

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Speaker 10: It needs to get done because for decades now you

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Speaker 10: have examples of them not valuing guard, even when they

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Speaker 10: hit on a guard in the draft, even when it

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Speaker 10: works out and they're really good, they're not willing to

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Speaker 10: pay them in the market. And you also better believe

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Speaker 10: that in twenty twenty six, guard has never been more valuable.

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Speaker 10: And if you can find reliable guards, you hold on

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Speaker 10: to them. When you have a quarterback like Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 10: defensive tackles, pass rushing. Defensive tackles are really tough to find,

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Speaker 10: and when you find them, it makes life hell for

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Speaker 10: opposing quarterbacks. Guards are the ones that can help alleviate that.

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Speaker 10: We saw that this year for Joe Flacco and Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 10: After these guys got settled in, I would keep Dalton Reisner.

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Speaker 10: I would do a two year deal, and I think

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Speaker 10: you could find a reasonable number to get it done.

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Speaker 10: If it might be Katie wants me to, If they

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Speaker 10: want me to do the deal, I'd be happy to

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Speaker 10: call Dalton and get that thing.

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Speaker 5: Downe You you are always talking Bengals, You're always writing Bengals.

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Speaker 5: Where can people read, watch, follow all your Bengals.

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Speaker 10: You can check it out Cincinnati Bengals Talk on YouTube,

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Speaker 10: Bengals Talk dot Com, and the Lockdown Bengals.

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Speaker 5: Podcast always a blast. Thank you sir, yep, thanks he

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Speaker 5: is James Rapine. Check it in on the Bengals front.

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Speaker 6: Up.

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Speaker 5: Next, the night that was on the hard Court for

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Speaker 5: UC or hear what Wes Miller thought about it, and

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Speaker 5: the night that was for the Musketeers. Oh man, you'll

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Speaker 5: hear what Richard Patino said about it. As we roll

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Speaker 5: on with RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevallet

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Speaker 5: seven hundred WLW flying down the stretch, about to put

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Speaker 5: the wraps on our one of three of RNL Carrier

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Speaker 5: Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. I'm Lance, but Cattlester,

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Speaker 5: thanks for being here. I am your host, Joe Waddell

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Speaker 5: your producer. We thank you for being our listeners. They're

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Speaker 5: listening by the way in Charleston, South Carolina tonight. Hello

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Speaker 5: and checking in in Bernhardt, Missouri on the I Hurt

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Speaker 5: it today. Rough Nut in the hardwood for the local teams.

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Speaker 5: Last night both on the road. You see, Bearcats were

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Speaker 5: down six of the half to number one ranked night

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Speaker 5: now nineteen to zero. Arizona down six of the half.

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Speaker 5: They lost by twenty six yikes. In fact, they were

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Speaker 5: down by four with twelve minutes to go in the

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Speaker 5: game last night, down four twelve minutes left, got outscored

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Speaker 5: thirty five to thirteen to finish the game.

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Speaker 2: On a night where the stars came out.

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Speaker 5: Reds manager Terry Francona, an Arizona Wildcat grad, he won

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Speaker 5: the Golden Spikes Award playing baseball at Arizona. He was

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Speaker 5: court side last night Bijon Robinson, he of the Atlanta

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Speaker 5: Falcons and in Arizona, a native, on hand last night

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Speaker 5: where the Bearcats fall on a night where Mustapha chom

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Speaker 5: hits just one of seven, Dayde Thomas one of eight,

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Speaker 5: and Sincere Harris uh four so combined two of nineteen

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Speaker 5: from the field last night. From those three, seventy seven

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Speaker 5: to fifty one. The final score. Here's Wes after the

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Speaker 5: game with Dan and Terry.

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Speaker 11: You know, I thought we were right there. I thought

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Speaker 11: we were going to be in position to win the game.

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Speaker 11: The score isn't indicative of how we played for most

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Speaker 11: of the game, but they got away from us there late.

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Speaker 2: And this isn't a complaint, but.

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Speaker 11: We our game plan was to be physical on the ball,

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Speaker 11: physical and the pick and roll, and it was hard

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Speaker 11: to be physical with the way the game was called tonight.

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Speaker 11: This team's incredibly resilient. They'll responding, you're ready to play

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Speaker 11: on Saturday, and this is the Big twelve. Guys, there's

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Speaker 11: I don't it's not okay. I'm angry, I'm frustrated, and

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Speaker 11: you know I don't want anybody listening to say he

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Speaker 11: got he's indifferent that, guys, there's no way I'm trying

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Speaker 11: to do an unbelievable job.

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Speaker 9: Of having composure right now, public leading.

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Speaker 11: I appreciate so, but but if you want to put

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Speaker 11: it into perspective, it's the Big twelve road game, because

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Speaker 11: normal team in the country. We're not jumping off a

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Speaker 11: building because we didn't play well in the second half,

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Speaker 11: like we're We're gonna regroup, We're gonna learn from it,

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Speaker 11: We're gonna get ready for another big time Big twelve

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Speaker 11: road game on.

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Speaker 5: Saturday, Arizona State on Saturday. No West Miller Show tonight.

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Speaker 5: As a result, they're obviously staying out in Arizona. Bearcats

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Speaker 5: ten and nine. The last time they were worse than

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Speaker 5: this through nineteen games, they were nine to ten in

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Speaker 5: mixed second season two thousand and eight, nine to ten

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Speaker 5: at this point. That was Deontay Vaughan's sophomore season. I'll

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Speaker 5: tell you what the shooting numbers on this team and

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Speaker 5: the shots they take from the field. They are ranked

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Speaker 5: three hundred and twenty third in the country in field

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Speaker 5: goal percentage. They're three hundred and thirty eighth shooting threes.

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Speaker 5: They're three hundred and fifty second at the free throw line.

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Speaker 5: And here's what just makes your head hurt. On two

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Speaker 5: point shots. Shots inside the three point line, they're two

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Speaker 5: hundred and sixteen in the country. They're only shooting fifty

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Speaker 5: two percent on the easy shots. It just never stops

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Speaker 5: with this team. The Musketeers, however, they lose to Creighton

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Speaker 5: the first time here by forty one. They go to

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Speaker 5: Creighton last night, they're up to with four point three

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Speaker 5: seconds left, they get called for a foul, questionable foul.

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Speaker 5: Good luck getting the benefit of the doubt on the

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Speaker 5: road in one of those games. So Austin Schwartz, I

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Speaker 5: think it was for the Creighton Blue Jays. Goes to

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Speaker 5: the free throw line. He hits the first, so Xavier's

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Speaker 5: leader's cut to one. He misses the second, so Zabery's

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Speaker 5: gonna win. The ball is loose on the floor and

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Speaker 5: bouncing towards the corner. He beats everybody on the floor

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Speaker 5: to the ball. He turns in from the right base

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Speaker 5: line from ont of like twelve feet He somehow banks

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Speaker 5: in a shot with six tenths of a second left

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Speaker 5: to win the game. Last night, they actually they put

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Speaker 5: a few ticks back and then Zebra threw a baseball

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Speaker 5: pass and it didn't go in. But listen to the

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Speaker 5: final seconds and then Richard Battino's reaction to it.

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Speaker 8: All three dribbles, benss, these shots on the way and

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Speaker 8: it's no good. Rebound chased into the corner, picked up

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Speaker 8: by the creaton blue Jays, a jump shots all the way,

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Speaker 8: and it's good. They be the Musketeers on a buzzer

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Speaker 8: beater ninety four, ninety three.

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Speaker 2: You have got to be kidding me. You come up

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Speaker 2: with the rebound, you win the game.

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Speaker 12: At the end, it was just a loose fall between us,

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Speaker 12: and then they came up with it. They made a

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Speaker 12: tough shot off the glass from the corner, but we had,

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Speaker 12: you know, what we needed. They missed the shot. We

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Speaker 12: come up with the rebound, we win the game. But

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Speaker 12: we didn't do that. We did a lot of good

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Speaker 12: things offensively. You know, it was hard because they were

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Speaker 12: hitting so many threes. We were trying to stay home

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Speaker 12: and just guard the basketball. So proud of the effort,

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Speaker 12: but very very disappointed in the fact that you come

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Speaker 12: up with that rebound, you win the game.

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Speaker 5: Richard Patino after the game with Joe Sen and Byron Larkin.

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Speaker 5: Byron was the one who dropped in the final thought,

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Speaker 5: You've got to be kidding me. Xavier shoots fifty seven

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Speaker 5: percent from the field and loses. They hit half of

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Speaker 5: their twenty four to three point attempts. But on the

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Speaker 5: same night where Creighton shoots fifty four percent from the

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Speaker 5: field and hits thirteen of twenty four from three point

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Speaker 5: territory ninety four ninety three, the final score all right,

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Speaker 5: one of the books, hang tight. Let's turn the corner

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Speaker 5: into some reds conversation ready or not? Here it comes.

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Speaker 5: They need a bat, I've got how about a cheap bat?

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Speaker 5: And how about a familiar face? Lay out the case

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Speaker 5: while I'm rhyming now as we turn to our number

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Speaker 13: Taking all cautions ahead of a winter storm, But the

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Speaker 13: seven o'clock report, I'm Sean Gallagher breaking now, a good

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Speaker 14: We're hopeful it will not be that bad from a

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Speaker 2: John Jewick is with Duke Energy.

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Speaker 14: Actually the worst thing that we always fear is the

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Speaker 15: But some customers could lose their power this weekend. Maybe

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Speaker 14: We're statting up or getting some additional contractors in place.

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Speaker 5: Let's keep it moving rolling until nine tonight, Dan Carolyn,

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Speaker 5: at that point between now and then, you and me

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Speaker 5: RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevallet. We got

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Speaker 5: knee deep into Xavier Hoops two Holloway his number raised

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Speaker 5: to the rafters. On Saturday, James R. Peene talk Bengals.

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Speaker 5: We had some college basketball. Have got some reds coming

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Speaker 5: around the corner. I'm very fired up because Eddie Fingers

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Speaker 5: left me another stack of albums today. Eddie, a couple

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Speaker 5: of weeks ago, saw that I had posted on social

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Speaker 5: Jackson Brown album I was listening to. Well, Eddie, they're downsizing,

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Speaker 5: he's getting rid of some things as clear and space.

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Speaker 5: And he dropped off yesterday a stack of about fifteen

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Speaker 5: record albums hot Wax, and he said it here, figured

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Speaker 5: you'd appreciate these like no way, and then he left

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Speaker 5: another stack of them today. I have in front of me.

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Speaker 5: He's given me. Bruce Hornsby in the range Scenes from

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Speaker 5: Man Steely, Dan's Greatest Hits, Art, Garfunkel Breakaway, Here's Robert

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Speaker 5: Palmer Secrets Men at work, Business as usual. I had

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Speaker 5: this album Jackson Brown running on Empty, Tim Weisberg, Weisberg

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Speaker 5: the best of I don't know who that is.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to listen to it.

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Speaker 5: The Big Chill, the original motion picture soundtrack, Bonnie Ray,

656
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Speaker 5: Turned Down the Lights, turned.

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Speaker 2: Down, the Betune, Then.

658
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Speaker 5: Grover Washington Junior, here's a Wings album, Back to the Egg,

659
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Speaker 5: and here's Little Feet.

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Speaker 2: You've got to be kidding me, and he gave me

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Speaker 2: all these thank you Eddie fingers.

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Speaker 5: I will be listening to him this weekend when I'm

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Speaker 5: not outside shoveling snow. There you go, All right, let's

664
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Speaker 5: get into the Reds in this hour. The Reds need

665
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Speaker 5: a bat, right, that elusive bat. We've been talking about

666
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 5: it for how long? Well, we're getting closer, and maybe

667
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 5: desperate times call for desperate measures. I wonder how desperate

668
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Speaker 5: the measures should be at this point. I've got an

669
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Speaker 5: option that would be available, that would come cheap. Who

670
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Speaker 5: is familiar the Phillies GM Dave Dombrowski has said candidly

671
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Speaker 5: publicly to just about anybody that will listen that the

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Speaker 5: Phillies plan to move on from Nick Costianos in some way,

673
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Speaker 5: shape or form. They're either going to trade him or

674
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Speaker 5: they're gonna release him. They don't want him. He's owed

675
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Speaker 5: twenty million this year. It's the last of a five year,

676
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Speaker 5: one hundred million dollar deal. And when he was asked

677
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Speaker 5: this week point blank if he still quote expects to

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Speaker 5: make a change of scenery move for Costianos before spring

679
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Speaker 5: training opens, Dombrowski said, yes, yes, we do. We still

680
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Speaker 5: plan on doing that. They don't want Nick Costianos. I

681
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 5: wonder would you want Nick Costianos. Matt Gilbo of The Athletic,

682
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Speaker 5: who covers the Phillies, reported earlier this winter that the

683
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Speaker 5: Phillies know they're likely it's going to be hard to

684
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Speaker 5: trade him. It's trending towards releasing him. Bob Nightingale of

685
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Speaker 5: USA Today had reported that the Phillies to trade him

686
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Speaker 5: would probably have to pay seventeen of his twenty million dollars.

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Speaker 5: So let's just say, from that standpoint, if I could

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Speaker 5: get you Nick Costianos, and it would cost you three

689
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 5: million dollars, anybody Castianos Castianos, let's talk about the phones.

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Speaker 5: Five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, one, eight hundred

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Speaker 5: of the big one. Nick will be thirty four in

692
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 5: March did not hit well this year. Two fifty did

693
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Speaker 5: not get on base sub three hundred on base percentage.

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Speaker 5: It's awfully difficult to have a sub three hundred on

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Speaker 5: base percentage. He did hit seventeen home runs last year,

696
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Speaker 5: but man, he was a below league average hitter. He

697
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 5: was also a way below league average defender. He's trending

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Speaker 5: in the wrong direction. Uh, you look at the the numbers,

699
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 5: the metrics. He's not hitting the ball hard. Defensively, he's

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Speaker 5: been a disaster. It was noted in the Athletic the

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Speaker 5: clubs like quoting now. Clubs like the Pirates, Reds and

702
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 5: Royals have been looking for more bats all off season

703
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Speaker 5: and could theoretically roll the dice on a hopeful rebound.

704
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 5: Other clubs could come calling if they incur some injuries

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Speaker 5: in spring training. For now, Costianos remains on the roster.

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Speaker 5: If the Phillies covered most of the money, they covered

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Speaker 5: seventeen of the twenty million. I just I don't see

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Speaker 5: any remaining value in Nick Costianos. I mean, he's a

709
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 5: poor hitter, he's a poor fielder, and the Phillies would

710
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Speaker 5: tell you he's a poor teammate. He turns thirty four

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Speaker 5: in March. This past season was a mess. His on

712
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Speaker 5: base percentage was the lowest of his career. He had

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Speaker 5: the second worst I'm going to go analytically on you.

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Speaker 5: He had the second worst exit velocity of his career.

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Speaker 5: What does that mean? That means he's slowing down. He's

716
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 5: not hitting the ball hard. It's not coming off the

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00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 5: bat hard. He had the lowest hard hit rate of

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Speaker 5: his career. He had a negative war and this concludes

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Speaker 5: my analytical look at nicostianos Well, actually one more defensively,

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Speaker 5: he was a minus eleven in defensive run saved. Trust

721
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Speaker 5: me when I tell you that a minus double digit

722
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 5: number defensively is as bad as it gets. He's now

723
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Speaker 5: strictly a DH, so he's trending the wrong direction. Offensively,

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Speaker 5: he can't be played in the field. And oh, by

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Speaker 5: the way, he argued with Rob Thompson, his manager, was

726
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Speaker 5: benched for an inappropriate comment following the decision by the

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Speaker 5: manager to remove him from a game for defense late

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Speaker 5: in the game. And according to the Athletic, the dugout incident,

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Speaker 5: according to a couple of team sources, left players on

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Speaker 5: the phillies and the coaches alike disgusted. Not my word choice,

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Speaker 5: that's the report from the Athletic talking to sources within

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Speaker 5: the clubhouse, they were left disgusted by his behavior in

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Speaker 5: that moment. From that moment forward, he started twelve of

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Speaker 5: their final twenty five games. And I also wonder, I mean,

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Speaker 5: if he hadn't played for the Reds and he hadn't

736
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Speaker 5: flexed over Jake Westbrook at home played on opening Day

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Speaker 5: five years ago, would this be a conversation. But I

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Speaker 5: go back to what I said originally, desperate times call

739
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Speaker 5: for desperate measures.

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Speaker 2: Beggers can't be choosers.

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Speaker 5: When your payroll is what it is, can I give

742
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Speaker 5: you any more claiches in rapid fire order? But when

743
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 5: your payroll is in the neighborhood at one hundred and

744
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 5: fifteen million, and right now you're in the neighborhood of

745
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Speaker 5: one hundred and fifteen million, they got a little bit

746
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Speaker 5: of wiggle room if the Phillies covered the three million.

747
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Speaker 5: Based on the number run, it looks like they could

748
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Speaker 5: cover the three If the Phillies paid seventeen million, the

749
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 5: Reds could cover the three million on the contract, even

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Speaker 5: if they reach a point where nobody said that's okay,

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Speaker 5: we'll pass. Even if they release him and you just

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Speaker 5: get him for free, even free. I don't see a

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Speaker 5: purpose for Nick Costio. I guess it's twofold. I don't

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00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 5: see a purpose for him. And if you can't, If

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Speaker 5: at this stage of the game, you can't find a

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Speaker 5: better option than Nick Costianos, then what are we doing?

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Speaker 5: But I bring it up to you because that's that's me.

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Speaker 5: I'm wondering about you. He was beloved here, people loved

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Speaker 5: Nick Costianos, and if he's.

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Speaker 2: A bat that's cheap.

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Speaker 5: I present this to figure out if he would do

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Speaker 5: anything for you. Five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand, one,

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Speaker 5: eight hundred the big one. We'll talk with you next.

764
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Speaker 5: And the continuing search for the offense I think needs

765
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 5: to be expanded to a bigger picture because not only

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Speaker 5: not only are they looking to increase the offense, understand

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Speaker 5: the offense they've lost since last season when it was

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Speaker 5: We are knee deep into the Reds conversation and one idea.

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Speaker 5: We know where they were. Reds are payroll wise, they're

777
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 5: up against it. We know they need a bat. Well,

778
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 5: a bat that would be cheap, not exactly productive, but

779
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 5: cheap and familiar would be Nick Costianos. I just I

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00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 5: don't see I don't see an angle. I guess I

781
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 5: would see the well bounce back opportunity and as Dave

782
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 5: don Browski said, a change of scenery candidate. And to

783
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 5: be fair, Nick Costiano's had his best season in Cincinnati

784
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Speaker 5: as a Red in twenty twenty one. He hit thirty

785
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 5: one home runs, He drove in one hundred, he had

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Speaker 5: thirty eight doubles, he hit three h nine, he was

787
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 5: an All Star, he won a Silver Slugger, he.

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Speaker 2: Got MVP votes.

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Speaker 5: But that was twenty twenty one, and he's been trending

790
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 5: downhill ever since. I just I I need I need more,

791
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,439
Speaker 5: I want more. I there's too many things the Reds

792
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 5: are gonna be crossing fingers on and hoping on to

793
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 5: add one more in say Nick Costianos, let's hope he

794
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 5: finds the fountain of youth and reverses all the trends

795
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 5: that say he is going the wrong way. And even

796
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 5: beyond the offensive state point, I mean the fact that

797
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 5: he can't play a position. I mean they they in

798
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 5: essence need the DH bot on this team to rotate

799
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Speaker 5: guys through, whether that's South Steward at times or or others.

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Speaker 5: If Nick is only going to be able to play

801
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 5: d H, I just I think it limits them and

802
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 5: there's just not enough of a enough of a boost

803
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 5: to entertain the idea, whether he's.

804
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Speaker 2: Free or three million dollars.

805
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Speaker 5: The way I look at it, Westchester we go, Jeff,

806
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 5: what do you think Nick Costianos.

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Speaker 16: Fans enjoy the program as always.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 16: You know we're not in the club house there, but

810
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 16: from every appearance that we get, this club seems to

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00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 16: be a pretty tight knick, a bunch of.

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Speaker 4: Guys that kind of enjoy hanging out with each other. Yeah,

813
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 4: and bringing this guy back. He's a cancer. I mean,

814
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 4: he's done it to himself. He's a cancer, and I

815
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 4: think we need to look elsewhere. I do, I know

816
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 4: as Warez.

817
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 16: Has signed with anybody has not. But you know, this

818
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 16: deferred payment thing seems to be working very well for

819
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Speaker 16: the Dodgers, so maybe we can work out something there

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Speaker 16: and bring him back. He seems like a good guy

821
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Speaker 16: on the field and off the deal.

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Speaker 4: He got along well with our community when he was here,

823
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Speaker 4: and you know, playing in the small park, that guy

824
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 4: he could hit sixty home runs and it might be bad,

825
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 4: but people will go down to see the home runs

826
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 4: at least. I think that's where they need to look.

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Speaker 4: I don't think bringing the guy nothing personal against the guy.

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Speaker 4: I just think you could kill the momentum that this

829
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Speaker 4: team has bringing him in here.

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Speaker 5: I think that's well said, Jeff. Thank you for listening,

831
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Speaker 5: Thanks for calling.

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Speaker 4: Thank care sir.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy your evening.

834
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Speaker 5: Eueaneo Drew hit forty nine bombs last year, forty nine

835
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Speaker 5: and thirty three years old. Now he's still out there,

836
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 5: and of the bats that are still out there, trying

837
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 5: to think if I've missed anybody, I think he's probably

838
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 5: the best bat out there. So it's not It'd be

839
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Speaker 5: one thing if the Reds were operating on the on

840
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 5: their own with Auenio. They're operating with everybody else needs

841
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 5: a bat and that complicates things even further. Troy we go, Hey, Brian,

842
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 5: welcome to sports Talk.

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Speaker 17: Hey a man, what you're saying. I believe it is

844
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 17: a calculated risk if we brought Castiano's back. But to

845
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 17: the hire Colors point, I'm right with them, that clubhouse

846
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 17: is just too darn good to mess up the chemistry.

847
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.

848
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Speaker 5: It was striking on Friday night everybody I taught. Of

849
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 5: the nine players, eight players who were up with me,

850
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 5: they all talked about how they grew together last year,

851
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 5: they experienced pressure and down the stretch the scoreboard watching

852
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 5: and how it brought them together as a as a group.

853
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 2: And I think there is something to that.

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00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 5: To a man that the word chemistry came up a lot,

855
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 5: and I just I just don't like the vibe.

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00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 2: I mean, think of it.

857
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 5: Philly be willing to pay seventeen million to get rid

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00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 5: of the guy, I mean, I think that says a

859
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 5: lot about how they view the person and player that

860
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 5: he is.

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Speaker 2: That that speaks.

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00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 17: Volumes absolutely and number number two. But if you mean

863
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 17: the clubhouse with the Phillies manager, if you would call

864
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 17: when he was here, he complained to David Bell about

865
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Speaker 17: being pooled in the field also, and he wanted a little.

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Speaker 4: Bit of a pay in the butt when he was here.

867
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Speaker 6: I don't remember that or not.

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Speaker 5: I do remember he wasn't happy when he was replaced

869
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 5: Layton games.

870
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 2: Yes, he did not want to get Layton games.

871
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 17: And that's stuck in my mind the minute he said

872
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 17: that now we needed to pay in the butt. And

873
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 17: the guy who can't thank you.

874
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 5: I thanks Brian, thank you all you as well, you know,

875
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 5: and I started to lay this out. I want to

876
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 5: add this to it is where as we're looking for

877
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 5: the bat, keep in mind and I in looking at

878
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 5: this today, I kind of said, Wolve. I mean, it's

879
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 5: one thing to say they need another bat. Let's not

880
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 5: lose sight of the fact they're replacing. They still have

881
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 5: to replace three bats that were part of their playoff team.

882
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 5: I mean Miguel and Douh, Austin Hayes, and Gavin Lucks

883
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 5: each appeared in both playoff games. That group and Duhrr

884
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 5: was acquired late in the season. But that group includes

885
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 5: Gavin lux who was the highest batting average on the

886
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,959
Speaker 5: team among the regulars now he hit two sixty nine,

887
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 5: but the league hit two forty five. So the guy

888
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 5: who was hitting above the league gaverage, who was the

889
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 5: Red's best batting average player, who was among the regulars,

890
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 5: he's gone. Austin Hayes injured or not, still took with

891
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 5: him those what the thirteen home runs, and he was

892
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 5: third on the team in homers, and he was third

893
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 5: on the team in RBI's and he's gone. And Douharr

894
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 5: from the time he arrived in the trade to the

895
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 5: end of the season, he led every National League hitter

896
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 5: in batting average, on base and ops and in fact,

897
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 5: he led all Major league hitters batting against left handers

898
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 5: three to eighty nine. So it's one thing to say, man,

899
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 5: they need a bat. I think we almost forget. Well,

900
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 5: wait a minute. They struggled last year to hit. They

901
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 5: were shut out thirteen times last year, and they're down

902
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 5: in Duhar, Hayes and lucks not. And I know some

903
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 5: might be screaming, but.

904
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,240
Speaker 2: What about JJ Boude, don't you say?

905
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 5: And Dane Meers, Well, okay, but let's just leave it

906
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 5: at this.

907
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,720
Speaker 2: They need a bat.

908
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:52,720
Speaker 5: And I'm I'm not pounding the table or expecting an

909
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 5: All star bat, but they need a productive bat. They

910
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 5: need a at least a quasi threat in the order

911
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 5: to go along with La Da La Cruz.

912
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 2: TikTok TikTok. Still ahead.

913
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 5: On the pitching side, there is a name who I

914
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 5: think some have forgotten about that.

915
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 2: If in fact he.

916
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 5: Is right and stays right, I think is a very

917
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,959
Speaker 5: valuable piece for this team. You'll hear what he told

918
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,920
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Speaker 5: They're checking in from Houston tonight. I love this the

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Speaker 2: I love hearing stuff like that. I loved hearing stuff.

932
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 5: Oh here's the segue stuff like I heard Friday night

933
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 5: from Brandon Williamson. I think I'm gonna call him like

934
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 5: a sleeper arm for this team. Brandon Williamson came to

935
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 5: the Reds in the big trade in March of twenty

936
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 5: twenty two. It was Brandon and Justin Dunn, remember him,

937
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 5: and Jake Fraley for au Enyosuarez and Jesse Winker, and

938
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 5: then Connor Phillips became the player to be named later

939
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 5: to complete the trade. Hey, Connor Phillips. Things are looking

940
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 5: up for him as well. But Brandon Williamson suffered a

941
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 5: Tommy John injury, needed Tommy John surgery and he hasn't

942
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 5: pitched since twenty twenty four. But he's back and can

943
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 5: we say better than ever? He joined me on the

944
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 5: stage on Friday night, and I really enjoyed talking with

945
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 5: Brandon Williams because he's a really like deep thinking guy

946
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 5: who like gets deep into the process of pitching. And

947
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 5: I thought it was worth hearing a little bit of

948
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 5: our conversation. And as you listen to this, think about

949
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 5: how he might be able to help this team. We

950
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 5: know it's unrealistic to think all five starters are going

951
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 5: to remain healthy the entire season, as much as we

952
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 5: would hope they would. But he seems to be a

953
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 5: guy they're going to have in reserve in some way,

954
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 5: shape or form, who might be able to help in

955
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 5: twenty twenty six. And I asked him on Friday night

956
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 5: when he sat down after all the injuries and not

957
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 5: pitching since twenty twenty four, I ask him how he feels.

958
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 9: I feel great.

959
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 3: You know, I've had even in twenty four I missed

960
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,720
Speaker 3: a decent chuck of the season with some shoulder issues.

961
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 3: So for the past two seasons pretty much I've had,

962
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 3: you know, ample amount of time to just focus on

963
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 3: things that usually during the season you don't get to

964
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 3: focus on.

965
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 9: Yea.

966
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 3: And so for you know, close to twenty four months,

967
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 3: I've been just trying to get.

968
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 9: To feel good and finally feel like I'm there.

969
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 2: Take me back to the moment.

970
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 5: It's a gotta be a nightmare for a picture when

971
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 5: the injury happens and you're you're told after the uh,

972
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,240
Speaker 5: the scans or whatever, that it is going to require

973
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 5: Tommy John surgery. What's that light in the life of

974
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 5: a picture?

975
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 3: I remember on the mound feeling, you know, the pop,

976
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 3: and uh, I remember seeing the video after Himbody's.

977
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 9: Like, oh it's he said pop. He said pop it.

978
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 3: I didn't even know at the time that it was

979
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 3: it was Tommy John or my elbow snapped. I just

980
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 3: felt an uncomfortable feeling, no pain, so I most guys say, oh,

981
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 3: I is excruciating.

982
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 11: You know.

983
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 9: I didn't have any pain, so I didn't really know

984
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 9: what was going on. And uh.

985
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 3: I actually tried to talk him into letting me pitch still,

986
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 3: but they're smart, so they didn't let me do that.

987
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 9: Uh yeah.

988
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 3: And then we went in and luckily it could go

989
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 3: right up to Crumpcheck's office and got an MRI and yeah,

990
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,240
Speaker 3: it was uh. I mean, it's it's a low feeling,

991
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 3: but you know that at least you're taken care of.

992
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know. So it's really more mental than anything physically.

993
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 3: You know that you're going to get a good surgeon

994
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 3: and you're gonna get the best treatment coming back. So

995
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 3: I wasn't too worried about all my career's over. You know,

996
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 3: Tommy John's very popular now and the surgery is very

997
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 3: cut and dry, so it's really just the mental wear

998
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 3: and tear of I'm not going to be doing anything

999
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 3: but really boring, you know, behind the scenes stuff for

1000
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 3: a long time.

1001
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 9: And once I got over that, it didn't take long.

1002
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 9: It was I knew it was a good thing.

1003
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 2: Are you currently throwing?

1004
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, are you look today? This one the field?

1005
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 9: Feel great? Yeah, I'll be able to hit spring training going.

1006
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 2: So no restrictions or no, no, no, no that I

1007
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 2: know of.

1008
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure there'll be a light inning's limit,

1009
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 3: but no, I feel great.

1010
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 2: But that was I was going to lead it into

1011
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 2: the next question.

1012
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 5: When you're coming back, does in terms of role or

1013
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 5: how you pitch, does it dictate more you're probably? Does

1014
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 5: it make it easier to be a reliever coming back

1015
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 5: or do you just starting once every five days make

1016
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 5: it easier?

1017
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 2: Is there a how do you?

1018
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 9: I'm sure there's things to both.

1019
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 3: I have ever relieved, so I don't know how that

1020
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 3: would work, but I know that for starting it is

1021
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 3: nice to have your set schedule. If something doesn't work,

1022
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 3: you can you're able to kind of understand what you

1023
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 3: can pluck out and fill. Yeah, I don't I don't

1024
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 3: know what I'll do this here, So I'm just kind

1025
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 3: of with it.

1026
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 9: I just want to pitch.

1027
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been it's been a long time since I've

1028
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 3: felt like my arm and my body has felt good.

1029
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 3: So really, if I can just go out there and

1030
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 3: feel like I can let it go, I'll be happy

1031
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 3: with whatever goes on.

1032
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 5: I've talked with guys coming back from injuries, and they

1033
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,439
Speaker 5: say one of the things that you have to worry

1034
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 5: about when you've when you've been working so long to

1035
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 5: get to a point that final push you feel good,

1036
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 5: but you got to resist like racing to the finish line,

1037
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 5: because you don't want to like screw it up.

1038
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 2: Does that make sense?

1039
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, And I feel that my bullpens.

1040
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 3: You know, I feel really good, Like my arm is fresh,

1041
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 3: my body is you know, I've I've basically just been

1042
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 3: working out for two years, so my body feels really

1043
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 3: good and I'll start throwing and you I kind of

1044
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 3: have to. I actually play catch with Lidolo every day

1045
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 3: at TCU, and I call him my governor because he'll

1046
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 3: tell me, like, okay, like slow down, you're doing it

1047
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 3: too hard. You're doing too much, and it is hard.

1048
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 3: It's really hard to feel great and not have felt

1049
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 3: great for so long. And then you do feel great

1050
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 3: and you gotta you know, pull off the gas a

1051
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 3: little bit. So that's been the challenge, but that's a

1052
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 3: better challenge than feeling horrible and having to push on

1053
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 3: the gas.

1054
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:23,439
Speaker 6: No doubt.

1055
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 5: Did you along the way, did you reach out to

1056
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 5: friends in the game who had gone through a Tommy

1057
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 5: John surgery?

1058
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you remember Justin Wilson, he was on that a

1059
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 3: few years ago. Right when I got it. He told me,

1060
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 3: you know, they're going to tell you twelve months, but

1061
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 3: it's sixteen to eighteen before you really feel good. He

1062
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,240
Speaker 3: had a few tips, a few things to do. Wade Miley,

1063
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 3: you know, a lot a lot of guys have had

1064
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 3: Tommy John. So it's really not hard to find somebody

1065
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 3: that has a good head on their shoulders to ask

1066
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 3: him what to do. And the trainers that the Rets

1067
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 3: Complex were awesome, They were really were. It was fun

1068
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 3: to go to work it and it really shouldn't have been.

1069
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 3: You know, it kind of sucks here one hundred and

1070
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 3: fifteen degrees. You're not playing, you know, and they make

1071
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 3: it fun and you work hard and it was good.

1072
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 5: I think first full workout for the team is a

1073
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 5: month from today. What do you do what's your timeline

1074
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 5: from today to that day?

1075
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, So on Tuesday, I'm actually going to a place

1076
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 3: called Maven in Atlanta. I'm gonna do a little biomechanical

1077
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 3: analysis of my of my you know, pitching mechanics, and

1078
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 3: then I'm gonna basically throw bullpens and live vps and

1079
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 3: just build up a little more and more try and

1080
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 3: make sure I'm fully ready to go.

1081
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 5: Do you have a comparison of what you look like

1082
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 5: extension and everything before and you're comparing it to now

1083
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 5: or what will you look for?

1084
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 9: Really? I'm looking for tips on velocity. Yeah.

1085
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Speaker 3: My my skill set is very much pitchability and like

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00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 3: off speed bias, and I'm trying to find a little

1087
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 3: more velocity. So going down there, I'm hoping that they

1088
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 3: can show me a few things to help me throw

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00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 3: a little harder.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of information out there. It sounds like

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00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 5: you really like that type of information.

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Speaker 3: I would say I'm more of an internal pitcher than

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00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 3: most are. I could actually get more external I think

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00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 3: could benefit me.

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00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 2: But now explain that.

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00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 5: I like that.

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00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 9: So I like feeling what I.

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00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 3: Can control on the mound, so I know I can

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00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 3: control where my arm is. I know I can control

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00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 3: where the ball comes out where my foot lands, I can't.

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00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 3: I do control where the ball goes, but not really

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00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 3: because if I could, I throw it there every time.

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00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 3: So I try and really think about feels, you know,

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00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 3: where everything is feeling in space and how the ball

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00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,439
Speaker 3: feels coming out. So if I can have a little

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00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 3: more knowledge on the feels of what hard throwers feel,

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00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 3: I already have the feel of what good pitchers I

1108
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 3: get are good, you know, pitchability type players have. So

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00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 3: I'm trying to kind of mesh with the other side

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00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 3: and learn how to you know, grunt and throw hard.

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Speaker 5: Oh man, I could talk this all night. I really

1112
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 5: enjoyed this. Congrats on the comeback. I'm so happy you're

1113
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 5: feeling good and best of look in spring training in

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00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 5: this season.

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Speaker 9: Thank you. I appreciate it.

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00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 5: Brandon Williamson, Friday night, part of our conversation from Redsfest.

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00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 5: I've never I've never talked to a pitcher about pitching

1118
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 5: in those turns or had him describe what he and

1119
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 5: he met Tuesday of this week, what that visit was

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Speaker 5: like to the pitching lab for lack of a better word,

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00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 5: and trying to get the feel for being a hard

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00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 5: throwing He's a lefty, but that whole internal.

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00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 2: External that was that was wild stuff.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what he can give this team if

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00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 5: he's healthy, how many innings it might mean. But on

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00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 5: a team that has Green, Lodolo, Abbott, Singer and Burns

1127
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 5: and then doesn't and has Rent Louder but pitched nine

1128
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 5: innings all of last season, what could a healthy Brandon

1129
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 5: Williamson mean depth wise to this team at some point

1130
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 5: during the season. I kind of like having that in

1131
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 5: the back pocket right now. More of your calls ahead.

1132
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 5: You're gonna hear from fan favorite. One more conversation I

1133
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 5: had at Redsfest in the eight o'clock hour. Tj Antne

1134
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 5: is coming back from a third Tommy John surgery. He's

1135
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 5: written a book about it as well. You're gonna hear

1136
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 5: some of what he told me from Redsfest in the

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Speaker 5: eight o'clock hour. It's RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by

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00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 5: Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WLW.

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00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for hanging out on this Thursday night.

1140
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 5: If RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet, let

1141
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 5: me invite you extended an invite to tomorrow night, three

1142
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 5: full hours on a Friday night, just like we like it.

1143
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 5: Heck yeah, we'll do it off the beaten Path topic

1144
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 5: in the eight o'clock hour. I have locked it in

1145
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 5: and it has been confirmed and approved by UC Chris

1146
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 5: and early on. We're gonna do a Matt McClain topic

1147
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 5: tomorrow night, because if the Reds are gonna get to

1148
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 5: anywhere close to where they want to go, Matt McClain

1149
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 5: is not only gonna have to be better, Matt mclin's

1150
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 5: gonna have to be pretty good. I'm not gonna say

1151
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 5: demand great, but Matt McLean's gonna have to be pretty

1152
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 5: good in twenty twenty six. And I like to do

1153
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 5: things on a scale of one to ten. I wonder,

1154
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 5: on a scale of one to ten, how confident collectively

1155
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 5: we feel that Matt McClean will be good next year.

1156
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 2: I talked with him at Red's Fest. You'll hear a

1157
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 2: little bit of that tomorrow night as well. But let's

1158
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 2: talk more.

1159
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 5: Nic Costianos in a cheap bat option for the Reds

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01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 5: that may come completely free. If the Phillies can't find

1161
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 5: a taker, they may just eat the whole twenty million

1162
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 5: dollars release him and walk away from it. Bob Nightingale

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01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 5: of USA Today was saying that the Phillies would be

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01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 5: prepared to pay seventeen of the twenty million in a

1165
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 5: trade if somebody wanted him. I just I get the

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01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 5: Red's need. That that's well known. I just don't know

1167
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 5: that he fills the need in really any way, shape

1168
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 5: or form. At this point, Springfield, we go, Hey, Ron,

1169
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 5: what do you know?

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Speaker 2: Hey?

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01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 7: First time caller, a long time.

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Speaker 2: Listener, Welcome to the show. What's on your mind?

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Speaker 7: I was listening on my way home about you mentioned

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01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 7: Nick Costiana's yes, and it hurked my interest. But the

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01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 7: more you talked about his statistics and his bad clubhouse mannerisms,

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01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 7: I guess you could say. I would say, I think

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01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 7: I would go after Luisa Rise or Andrew harr.

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01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 2: Somebody else.

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01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 7: I think if depends on how much money you're going

1180
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 7: to spend on someone like castianis.

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01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I run.

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01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 5: I think it's going to get really interesting, because each

1183
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 5: day we get closer to pictures and catchers reporting, the

1184
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 5: more nervous these free agents who are out there are

1185
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 5: going to become, the more phone calls are going to

1186
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 5: be made to their agent, they're going to want to

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01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 5: spot and maybe they thought they were worth X amount

1188
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 5: of dollars, but the reality is they're going to have

1189
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 5: to settle for Y amount of dollars. And I think

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Speaker 5: we're going to start to see some movement and a

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01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 5: couple of those guys you mentioned. It'll be interesting to see,

1192
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 5: you know, what what the market shows their worth is

1193
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 5: and if that fits with what the Reds have to

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01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:11,919
Speaker 5: have left to spend at this point.

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01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, what do you think about Arise? You think he

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01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 7: will come too big of a price.

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01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 2: That's interesting.

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Speaker 5: There seems to be such a split on him because

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Speaker 5: he on one hand, he always has been a good hitter,

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01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 5: batting average wise, But on the other hand, it's I

1201
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 5: don't want to say empty, there's just there's not much power.

1202
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 2: But he does get on base.

1203
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 5: So if the object is to not make outs, he's

1204
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 5: pretty good at not making outs. So I think in

1205
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 5: this lineup that strikes out a lot, he doesn't strike out.

1206
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 5: In fact, last season he went to the played almost

1207
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 5: seven hundred times, he only struck out twenty one times.

1208
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 5: I mean, I think there have been Reds who might

1209
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 5: have come close to striking out twenty one times in

1210
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 5: a week.

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Speaker 2: It seems.

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01:02:59,000 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, we haven't had any three hundred hitters

1214
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 7: for a while. I mean, you know, I don't know

1215
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 7: who it was the last one that was. I mean,

1216
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 7: LUTs was close, I guess, but he didn't play a

1217
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 7: full season or I can't remember how many advats he

1218
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 7: had last year. But they do need people to get

1219
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 7: on base. Yeah, if you want to, if you want

1220
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 7: the three round homer. As you're tucking it up the

1221
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 7: other night.

1222
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 2: Would say, yeah, if you don't have anybody on base,

1223
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 2: that's a solo hover.

1224
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 7: Exactly exactly.

1225
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 5: Hey, I'm glad you called for the first time. I

1226
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 5: hope it's not your last. I enjoyed this and let's

1227
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Speaker 5: do it again, right.

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Speaker 7: Okay, God take any That was a great interview too

1229
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 7: with the Brandon Williams.

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Speaker 2: Williams and yes, thank you. Yeah, have a good time,

1231
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 2: all right. He was love first time callers, love first

1232
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 2: time callers.

1233
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 8: Uh yeah.

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01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 5: Luisa Rise is a really like interesting test case for

1235
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 5: the market right now because there are such split opinions

1236
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 5: on him second base, first base, third base. He's twenty

1237
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 5: eight years old. With the Padres, won a couple of

1238
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 5: batting titles last season, I'm trying to look up as

1239
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 5: I scroll through Baseball Reference, see he played first base

1240
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 5: more than anything else, and then a little bit of

1241
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 5: second base and a little bit more as a DH.

1242
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 5: He makes contact, he doesn't strike out one in fact,

1243
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 5: three straight batting titles in twenty two, twenty three, twenty four.

1244
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 5: Doesn't hit for power at all, doesn't strike out. How

1245
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 5: about these strikeout totals going backwards twenty one, this year, eighteen,

1246
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 5: the year before eleven and a shortened actually it's.

1247
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 2: Twenty nine in.

1248
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 5: So in as I look at this, the most times

1249
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 5: he has struck out in a season is forty eight.

1250
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 5: Holy cow. But again back to there's not much pop

1251
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 5: and he doesn't he doesn't steal a lot of bass,

1252
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 5: but he does get on base. And the market hasn't

1253
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 5: settled on how much he's worth. He hasn't found what

1254
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 5: he's looking for at this point. Same with Miguel and Duhar.

1255
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 5: And I have a lot of people who say, what

1256
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 5: in the red sign? And well, you can't make him sign.

1257
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 5: He's a free agent. He's trying to figure out, he's

1258
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 5: trying to get his price right now, and to this point,

1259
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 5: nobody's been willing to match that now as the clock ticks,

1260
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 5: maybe he tells his agent, Hey, you know, I thought

1261
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 5: we could get pick a number seven million. Is there

1262
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 5: something out there like it would net me five million.

1263
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 5: I'm just giving you random numbers, but you get the idea.

1264
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 5: And as we get closer in pitchers and catchers, what

1265
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 5: they want is much different than what they're going to

1266
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 5: ultimately have to accept in a lot of cases. Up next,

1267
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 5: tj Antne is a clear fan favorite. He's trying to

1268
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 5: do almost the impossible come back from a third Tommy

1269
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:02,959
Speaker 5: John surgery. I asked him Friday night why he would

1270
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 5: put himself through what he has to go through to

1271
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 5: get through a third Tommy John surgery. His answer was

1272
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 5: really kind of cool. That is ahead RNL Carrier Sports

1273
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 5: Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WLW. Programming Note

1274
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 5: programming note attention, please scorecards, please Dan Carroll out Mike

1275
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 5: Allen in nine to Midnight. Make note be prepared. Mike

1276
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 5: Allen's got you nine to Midnight tonight right here on

1277
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 5: seven hundred WLW. I'm a big fan of ESPN's thirty

1278
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 5: for thirty the documentaries, just wonder they've done hundreds of

1279
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 5: them over the years. The Bo Jackson one is outstanding,

1280
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:52,479
Speaker 5: the You Butt, the Miami Hurricanes, the Youngstown Boys, Jim

1281
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 5: Tressel and Murice Clarett, the Fi Slamajama one, the the

1282
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 5: Michael Jordan one. There are so many, and I make

1283
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 5: a habit I'll be flipping channels and there'll be one

1284
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 5: on and I'll just stop in the middle of one,

1285
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 5: just start watching until I just love the behind the

1286
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 5: scenes documentary type stuff that they do for the ESPN

1287
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 5: thirty for thirty And it's always that what if I

1288
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 5: told you? And then they go on to tell the

1289
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 5: premise and then the backstory behind the whole thing. And

1290
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 5: I was thinking about this over the weekend, how Cincinnati

1291
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 5: could do its own, like its own wing of ESPN

1292
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 5: thirty for thirties. And we've talked about this before, the

1293
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 5: Cincinnati thirty for thirties, where you would take a story

1294
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 5: that's happened in this city over the years of great

1295
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 5: intrigue and go behind the scenes with interviews to tell

1296
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 5: the backstory to all of it, I mean, down to

1297
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 5: And this was mentioned at lunch as one of our

1298
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 5: first mentioned in the conversation today of the Bengals second

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl in Stanley Wilson. And what if I told

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Speaker 5: you an NFL team was preparing for the Super Bowl

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Speaker 5: and the night before its running back was found on

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Speaker 5: the bathroom and floor of a hotel room doing drugs.

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Speaker 5: The story of Stanley Wilson and what went on that night,

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01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 5: how it unfolded, and the impact it had on the team.

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Speaker 5: Can you imagine a thirty for thirty on that story

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Speaker 5: surrounding Stanley Wilson.

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Speaker 2: What if I told you.

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Speaker 5: The number one team in the country had dominated throughout

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Speaker 5: the college basketball season, only to lose its best player

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Speaker 5: in the conference tournament game and forever alter the legacy

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Speaker 5: of the program with the Kenyan Martin injury and the

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Speaker 5: broken leg and all that went into that season, the

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Speaker 5: lead up to it, the injury, the story after of

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Speaker 5: how Kenyon still goes on to be the number one

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Speaker 5: pick in the draft of the New York Nets.

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Speaker 2: What if I told you.

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Speaker 5: A Bengals fan threatened to live on a billboard until

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Speaker 5: his team won a football.

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Speaker 2: Game and then did it.

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Speaker 5: The story of Wildman Walker and how much I don't

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Speaker 5: even remember how many weeks wild Man?

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Speaker 2: What wasn't it like a pretty long time? Like six

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Speaker 2: to seven?

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Speaker 5: I should google that, like six or seven weeks that

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Speaker 5: wild Man stayed up on a billboard before the Bengals

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Speaker 5: won a football game. Why hasn't there been a somebody

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Speaker 5: should I'm an idea guy. Somebody should create the offshoot

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Speaker 5: of ESPN's thirty for thirty and make it Cincinnati thirty

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Speaker 5: for thirties. In sports, you could do one on when Jim.

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Speaker 5: But what if I told you a major league manager

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Speaker 5: was fired forty four games into a season and informed

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Speaker 5: over the phone that Tony Perez story and Jim Bowden.

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Speaker 2: You could do.

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Speaker 5: You could do a college basketball one with UC and Xavier.

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Speaker 5: What if I told you that rivals got together to play,

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Speaker 5: but one team took the ball and went home the

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Speaker 5: stall game Kentucky beats UC twenty four thirteen at Riverfront

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Speaker 5: Coliseum when they held the ball.

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Speaker 11: Just on and on.

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Speaker 5: There would be What if I told you a college

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Speaker 5: football coach led his team to a dream season and

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Speaker 5: then bolted during the team banquet before the big game.

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Speaker 5: The Brian Kelly departure from the UC Bearcats. I mean,

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Speaker 5: that's just cracking the surface of some of the things

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Speaker 5: we kicked around earlier today. And I'm sure every city

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01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 5: can make its case. But my goodness, you talk about

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Speaker 5: being prepared to sit and watch the backstory to some

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Speaker 5: of Cincinnati sports stories.

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Speaker 2: Sign me up. I got what related to baseball, and

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Speaker 2: I thought about it.

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Speaker 5: This was last week with the Kyle Tucker news when

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Speaker 5: he signed with the Dodgers and the seeming reaction is

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Speaker 5: reported by various outlets of owner around Major League Baseball,

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Speaker 5: and it made me think of something that happened with

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Speaker 5: the commissioner and this team back in the day that

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Speaker 5: would make for an unbelievable thirty for thirty based on

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Speaker 5: the context of where the game is today and the

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Speaker 5: ruling back then. I'll give you a couple more of

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Speaker 5: those we continue. If you want to jump out by

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Speaker 5: all mating can jump in with one of these. Is

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Speaker 5: one one of your own. Cincinnati thirty for thirties five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, one,

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Speaker 5: eight hundred, the big One. It's our nail carrier. Sports

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Speaker 5: Talk presented by Kelsey Shavela seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 2: It's a great day to be an American. It's always

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Speaker 2: a great day when Bill Cunningham is on the air.

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Speaker 2: A day without Willy is like a day without sunshine.

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Speaker 11: It's like a day without coffee.

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Speaker 2: It's like a day without flossing. No flossing.

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Speaker 9: Damn girl, that's nasty.

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Speaker 2: I always floss. I f loss And I listened to

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Speaker 2: Bill Cunningham. You're my kind a woman, a flosser and

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Speaker 2: a Willie fan. Back off, sucker, this girl's amine.

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Speaker 4: You're Cunningham Tomorrow at twelve noon on seven hundred.

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Speaker 5: Want to listen to it on your time through the

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Speaker 5: the Xavier Legend who will have his jersey raised to

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Speaker 5: the rafters. On Saturday, James R. Peene talk Bengals and

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01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 5: we talked reds and fun stuff throughout. By the way,

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Speaker 5: while I'm thinking of it, I like getting recommendations that

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Speaker 5: I like passing on recommendations. We checked out art on

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Speaker 5: Vine at Ryengeist on Sunday. We've wanted to go before,

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Speaker 5: but it's on Sundays and the Bengals are always playing.

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Speaker 5: But it's an arts and craft show. We discovered a

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Speaker 5: booth there called Simply Sour Dough, and it's a woman

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Speaker 5: who runs a micro bakery out of her home in Mainville.

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Speaker 5: And this booth had a bunch of the bread and

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Speaker 5: cookies and stuff that she makes. And we bought a

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Speaker 5: loaf of the hot Honey sourdough Hot Honey sourdough, and

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Speaker 5: we got a loaf of the cranberry walnut sourdough, and

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Speaker 5: I am telling you it is absolutely fantastic. I have

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Speaker 5: been eating sandwiches with hot honey sourdough all week long

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Speaker 5: and it's it's it's unlike anything I've ever had. So

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Speaker 5: shout out to Simply Sourdough. And I like passing on

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Speaker 5: great things that I find, and if you have something

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Speaker 5: you have found, please pass it along to me. A

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Speaker 5: couple of things that happened on this date before I

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Speaker 5: run out of time. This date nineteen sixty seven, the

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Speaker 5: reds Hire Bob Houseam as vice president and general Manager

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Speaker 5: the Shrewd and Big Vision. Houseum had been the GM

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Speaker 5: in Saint Louis. He would oversee the Reds from nineteen

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Speaker 5: sixty seven through nineteen seventy seven, winning six Division titles,

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Speaker 5: four NLCS titles, and two World championships. This date, night,

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Speaker 5: teen eighty nine, Joe Montana caps an eleven play ninety

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Speaker 5: two yard drive with a ten yard pass over the

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Speaker 5: middle of the John Taylor with thirty four seconds remaining.

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Speaker 5: The forty nine Ers beat the Cincinnati Bengals in the

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl two thousand and twenty two, four years ago. Tonight,

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Speaker 5: rookie Evan McPherson boots a game winning fifty two yard

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Speaker 5: field goal with no time left on the clock as

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Speaker 5: the fourth seeded Bengals punched their ticket to the AFC

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Speaker 5: Championship Game with a nineteen to six win at top

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Speaker 5: seed Tennessee. Joe Burrow shook off nine sacks that day.

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Speaker 5: The Bengals picked off Ryan Tannehill three times, and on

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Speaker 5: this date, twenty twenty three, the Bengals make it back

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Speaker 5: to back AFC Championship Game appearances with a twenty seven

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Speaker 5: to ten domination of the Bills in Buffalo. It was

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Speaker 5: the bengals tenth consecutive win. Joe Burrow tossed touchdown passes

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Speaker 5: to Jamar ch Hayden Hirsch. Remember the whole controversy surrounding

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Speaker 5: and there was the neutral site would be game in

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Speaker 5: Atlanta was dependent on the Bills and the Chiefs winning

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Speaker 5: and Joe Burrow saying, you know better send those refunds

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Speaker 5: after the game, all of that happening on this date

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Speaker 5: in twenty twenty three. All right, I think I've taken

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Speaker 5: care of everything. Tomorrow night, three hours, I want to

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Speaker 5: do a topic early on about Matt McClain because as

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Speaker 5: much as we talk about the Reds needing a bat,

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Speaker 5: and they do, I think and I have waited to

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Speaker 5: do a topic on Matt McClain. A lot of the

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty six, twenty twenty six Red season, I believe

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Speaker 5: is contingent on hinges on how good Matt McClain is

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Speaker 5: going to be. He dazzled as a rookie, got Rookie

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Speaker 5: of the Year votes, felt like he was going to

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Speaker 5: be the second basement for the next decade, and then

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Speaker 5: he got hurt and missed a whole season, and then

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Speaker 5: last season it was an entire season of a struggle,

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Speaker 5: and I, I don't know, I don't know what to

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Speaker 5: expect that of Matt McLean, do you. We'll talk about

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Speaker 5: that tomorrow night, and I've gotten off the beaten path.

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Speaker 5: Topic as well. Thanks to Joe what L for producing, Man,

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Speaker 5: thanks to you for taking to listen tonight. Let's do

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Speaker 5: it tomorrow night.

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Speaker 2: On Friday, three full hours.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, this has been R and L Carrier Sports

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Speaker 5: Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WW