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Speaker 2: is Dan Barrero. We were delighted that you were along

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Speaker 2: Line is open at six four six, eight six. This

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Speaker 2: is of course opening night for your Minnesota Timberwolves, who

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Speaker 2: will take on the Portland Trailblazers in Portland, Oregon, where

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Speaker 2: once upon a time the big redhead Bill Walton dominated long, long,

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Speaker 2: a live report from Portland scheduled I believe for is

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Speaker 2: it four to thirty tonight? You got it four thirty

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Speaker 2: this evening. Mace in your face in studio at the

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Speaker 2: at four thirty. Interesting news that Johnny has now confirmed

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Speaker 2: who is the original source? Chris Haynes. Chris Haynes noted

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Speaker 2: that his sources told him that Dante DiVincenzo will be

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Speaker 2: starting as at point guard tonight, with Mike Conley still

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Speaker 2: expected to not only participate, but to have a key

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Speaker 2: not had any inkling that this was even being discussed.

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Speaker 2: There had been so much during training camp of Conley

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Speaker 2: I don't think he may have known a lot already

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Speaker 2: then and not said I don't know. Hopefully we'll find

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Speaker 2: out from Johnny how long this has been percolating, what

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Speaker 2: particular news. I'll add this to it that I missed

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Speaker 2: Paul Allen yesterday. Did you read this quote? I think

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Speaker 2: we will maybe expect him Anthony Edwards to play on

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Speaker 2: and I will tell you I don't love it. I

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Speaker 2: guard Anthony Edwards could play. I mean, he essentially a

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Speaker 2: And what's funny about it is what we'd been kind

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Speaker 2: though neither of these players is a point guard, as

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Speaker 2: this is to me, these two that quote and this

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Speaker 2: me there's just not much belief in him right now.

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Speaker 2: Now that can change. How can he change it? Play well?

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Speaker 2: Play well in the stretches that he gets. But Johnny

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Speaker 2: might be right. I will still tell you my own

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Speaker 2: I mean, just watching and in my own shall we

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's the greatest natural fit for him.

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Speaker 2: I just don't. I think he's better off, maybe even

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Speaker 2: I'm just not convinced there's great there's a great sensibility

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Speaker 2: in either case. So we'll see how this goes. And

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Speaker 2: we may be getting too hung up on who starts

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Speaker 2: stick to that because he is older and we do

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Speaker 2: want to get the best out of him, and it's

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Speaker 2: hard to keep the minutes as low, perhaps sometimes as

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Speaker 2: This may be part of the reason they're going this route,

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Speaker 2: we've said all along that this year is about really

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Speaker 2: to be anything sizable, because there's certainly nothing sizable. You know,

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Speaker 2: last year we had the big trade red before the deadline,

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Speaker 2: into playing faster right. Yes, that's true, and Dante DiVincenzo

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Speaker 2: I'm curios to see who comes off the bench first

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Speaker 2: they're not point guards, but they're gonna have the ball.

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Speaker 2: Shannon certainly will, so I'm Evincenzo's a scorer. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: and not always a great one. I mean, he was

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Speaker 2: I think they got to have I felt all along

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Maybe the plan is for Conley to come in with

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Speaker 2: I still I just viewed the Vincenzo and again I

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Speaker 2: the Evincenzo. And I thought we saw stretches of him

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Speaker 2: even just even his entire approach. So we'll see how

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Speaker 2: that goes. But little intrigue right to start the twenty

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Speaker 2: fact that this is being raised or reported the day

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Speaker 2: yesterday backspasm, backspasms? Is anything changed? I mean the report

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Speaker 2: but he's not in traction. Doesn't seem like as far

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Speaker 2: Is it too late, guardsy for us to implement the

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Speaker 2: triangle offense? You mean for the Timberwolves. It's the Timberwolves.

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Speaker 2: This's too late, you think for us to do that.

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Speaker 2: I mean the season starts tonight. Well, yeah, the most

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Speaker 2: Rubik's cube like, so I'm guessing it would take more

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Speaker 2: but I don't know. I just see what Johnny says.

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Speaker 3: San, It's time for another edition of Mace in your

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Speaker 2: here for the second consecutive week. Welcome back, and you

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Speaker 2: better be nice because I'm gonna be here ready, are you?

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Speaker 2: Next week too?

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Speaker 4: You know what before?

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Speaker 1: Can I before you get going, huh, Mace in your face? Yes,

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Speaker 1: you guys? Well, I never get anything. I don't get

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Speaker 1: you know, walking in I was having the shirt the

432
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Speaker 1: guys stopping lies. What do you got there, coach?

433
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:16,719
Speaker 4: I showed him.

434
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: He goes, I want that, I said, not for sale.

435
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,360
Speaker 1: I got to give it to my buddies. I want

436
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 1: to buy it. Well, so that's how I told him.

437
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 1: I looked up and you know, you gotta what do

438
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: you get? You go to a soda stick dot com.

439
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: You can get it there, so.

440
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 2: You can set you can buy it there. Percentage do

441
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 2: you get none? I don't believe No, I don't.

442
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 4: Believe you very cheribed.

443
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 2: I like you charitable zero fac can figure it out.

444
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 4: So anyway, So.

445
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 2: There's a Mason your faceline.

446
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 4: How's that?

447
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 2: I love it. It's officially there, so if people go

448
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 2: to that site they can purchase the shirt.

449
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 4: That's exactly right outstanding. Yeah, it's about time. It's for

450
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 4: a good clause. And they're in Minnesota.

451
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 2: Yeah it's pretty good.

452
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: Well, you know whatever. And the thing about it for

453
00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: all you people out.

454
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Speaker 5: There, you know, if you really want to take off

455
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 5: my good friend Danny.

456
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 2: Barrero, you don't have any glasses on either, you know.

457
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 4: Get him in there and wear and wear him at

458
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Speaker 4: the fair next year. That would be good.

459
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be offended by that at all. Yeah, so

460
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 2: your face this is this is quite a coordinated effort. Mace.

461
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 2: I gotta say, I'm gonna start calling you side deal.

462
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 2: Glenn Soda Stick is already tweeted about it. He's getting

463
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 2: something out of it. I just down get the official

464
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 2: Mace in your face shirt. There it is, it's right there.

465
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 2: I just retweeted it. I mean you you you were

466
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 2: like to the last penny when you were here as

467
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 2: coach negotiating their nextra buck here an extra perk there.

468
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 2: You never stopped. You're getting something.

469
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 4: Out of this. I'm getting nothing.

470
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 2: We need to get you the best by deal so

471
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 2: you can get that TV back. That's what that's next.

472
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: We need to get that TV is anyway, I I

473
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 2: wish we could.

474
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: You know. It really ticked me off about that whole

475
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Speaker 1: deal's brought up the sorry no no, what I got

476
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: shown the door?

477
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 2: Yes, I remember it. Maybe I told you go ahead.

478
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 4: I wanted to keep my cell phone number.

479
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 2: I tell you this, yeah you did, but go ahead.

480
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 2: I wanted to keep myself because you know, it was

481
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Speaker 2: a university phone.

482
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Speaker 5: You can't do whatever, but you can take the number

483
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 5: and would you Well, initially they said yes, and then

484
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 5: one of the people, not not mister Maturia, but somebody

485
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 5: else came and said, we decided not to do it. Decided,

486
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 5: they made it clear they could have you laterally, they decided.

487
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Speaker 1: That's not because they were concerned that if I kept

488
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: that number, that down the road, if I got something

489
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: involved in something illegal, it may come back to say

490
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Speaker 1: that I was using a university phone number. Have you

491
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: ever had your hand with Clem Haskins anything ridiculously you law?

492
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Speaker 2: That's that's well, that's insulting.

493
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Speaker 4: It was insulting.

494
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't blame you for me. It was insulting.

495
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 2: There's two things somewhere, you know, in the catacombs, the

496
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 2: University of Minnesota, somewhere I don't with Williams Arena, the stadium,

497
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 2: whatever that I'm looking for that I still want. I

498
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: want to see. I want to know where your TV went,

499
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: and I want to know where the final four going

500
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 2: to go for men's basketball banner is hidden. Those are

501
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 2: two things probably in the same man. What if they're

502
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 2: in the same they might be in the same spot.

503
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Speaker 3: You know.

504
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: When I started thinking, which I think we talked last

505
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: week about James Franklin yesspire, and I saw him he

506
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: was on.

507
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Speaker 4: I didn't see when he was on, but I saw

508
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 4: that Clay was in game day and he was.

509
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: Talking about they practice Sundays and they always have a

510
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: team meeting at one for five, and at one the

511
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 1: AD walked in and dismissed him and how And I

512
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: was thinking to myself, how terrible that is? And then

513
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: I started thinking, at least the guy did it to

514
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: his face. He didn't call him on the telephone and

515
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: let him go.

516
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 2: When did that happen?

517
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 4: You can figure it out.

518
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Speaker 6: Don't be what I'm saying is I mean at least

519
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 6: the face to face. You're saying face to face like

520
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 6: a man? Yeah, right there, ill eyebull. He came in

521
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 6: And what's the guy's name?

522
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 2: Here's the pas.

523
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 4: What's the AD's name?

524
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: I don't have pat something.

525
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 4: Here's the graduate. You know his name?

526
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Speaker 2: I don't know his name. He's a he's are It

527
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 2: was tough to get through your guarded, your gated. That's

528
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Speaker 2: what I was going to say. If if Mother Materia

529
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 2: has shown up at your door, you wouldn't let him in.

530
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Speaker 4: That's not true.

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Speaker 2: You would have it?

532
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 4: Would you have?

533
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Speaker 2: Would you have ushered him into the Churchill room. Yeah,

534
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 2: or very.

535
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Speaker 1: Least he said, can you I mean I lived ten

536
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: minutes from there. He could have said can you come

537
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: down and need to talk. I could have gotten my

538
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: card down there.

539
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: Have you ever like raised that with him?

540
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 4: No, I wasn't talking about me.

541
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Speaker 1: I was talking about I think it was unfair that

542
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Speaker 1: James Franklin was complaining that the guide.

543
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Speaker 2: When you're saying it could be worse, it could be

544
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: worse and you and for you, it was that's what

545
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: you're saying a little bit. Well, this is nice that

546
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 2: it's a nice little dude.

547
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Speaker 4: It is. I got one for guards. He too.

548
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: That's perfect. So do we have Are we gonna link

549
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 2: it or is that illegal for us to link it

550
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 2: via cafe? I mean nobody's going there, so just retweet it.

551
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 2: I'll retweet it. Retweet it. That's the easiest that there

552
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: won't be a problem. You dontweeted it. We're here to help.

553
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: I'll help you with your side hustle.

554
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

555
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 4: I don't have a side hustle. I really do.

556
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: Once it, once it goes, I don't if anybody thinks

557
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: that that I'm trying to hawk something to make money

558
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: I am not write it down.

559
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: Are you sure?

560
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 4: I'm positive.

561
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure you got some free tacos from that

562
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: taco place in Fargo. Not yet?

563
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 4: Not yet.

564
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: Let me ask you something that's different, that's very, very different.

565
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 2: What give me the Glenn Mason if Glenn Mason published

566
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 2: online or wherever? A rules of storming the field? Oh yeah,

567
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 2: what would be the mace in your face? Rules are required?

568
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: What well do you think should fans abide by? What

569
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: are there, you know, limits to how often and who

570
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 2: you beat in terms of the decision to storm the field?

571
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: Now, that's a simple question. To complicate it. First of all,

572
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: I for a long time, even when I was coach,

573
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Speaker 1: I used to bring up the commissioner.

574
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 4: Of Jim Delaney.

575
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: Yes, why in college football we let fans storm the

576
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: field from a security standpoint at a different day and

577
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: age right danger? And it brought up I don't know

578
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: if you remember this or not, but Miami of Ohio

579
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: was playing Marshall. I think it was Marshall this years

580
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: and years ago, and Marshall was really good playing at

581
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Speaker 1: Marshall and Miami of Ohio, as I remember, won the game,

582
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Speaker 1: and maybe Marshall won the game Marshall won the game

583
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Speaker 1: and they went on the field whenever, and some things

584
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Speaker 1: were said, maybe I don't know if the person was

585
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: in toime to one of the players and maybe touch

586
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: play and the player decked the guy and it became

587
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: a major issue. But all the problems that we have,

588
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: and all I can tell you is do you ever

589
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: see anybody in NFL games any place go on the field?

590
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: No?

591
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: No, you know, I to go on the field and

592
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: go to jail, and it's because of security. So I

593
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: really think in this day and age, there ought to

594
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:29,479
Speaker 1: be a rule.

595
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 4: Now that you know the SEC they've put these rules in.

596
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: Yes, if you storm the field a grand or you know,

597
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: whatever it may be.

598
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 4: But I know where you're going this.

599
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: You want to say, because the Gopher faithful storm the

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Speaker 1: field last week when they beaten the Bread I think

601
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: it's great they beat Nebraska.

602
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 4: Do I think that warranted storm the field.

603
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: No.

604
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 4: I don't think it was any big deal.

605
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Speaker 1: And I would really think that where Pj's got this

606
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: program right now that the fans and everybody, you win

607
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: the game say well, okay we beat Nebraska, they ain't

608
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: any big deal.

609
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 4: Now if they don't have a rule against it.

610
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,719
Speaker 1: If you beat the number one team in the country,

611
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: Oh okay, well that's different. If you win the Big

612
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: Tank Conference, boom, that's a different story.

613
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 4: But to beat Nebraska, I mean, come on, and they

614
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 4: might have been running twenty fifth.

615
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Speaker 1: If they're the twenty fifth best team in the country,

616
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Speaker 1: I'll eat your.

617
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Speaker 4: Hat if you got one.

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Speaker 2: That was well. The other thing, which Guardian I talked about,

619
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 2: and I think you brought up too off air, is

620
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: the points spread for that game too. Was you look

621
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: back on it? It was absurd and a half nine and.

622
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: A half or seven. And if we talked about it

623
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: last week, you know, I don't know. I think the

624
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: fix was in. I don't know what I'm.

625
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 4: Gonna tell you. We're not even getting there yet.

626
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: I think the points spread this week down against Iowa,

627
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous, totally eight and a half points.

628
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 4: And are you I mean you know now wait a minute, now.

629
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Speaker 1: I know Iowa had a big offensive production against Wisconsin.

630
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: Really a bad football but typically year and in year,

631
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: weekend and week out for a long time. Now, they're

632
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: good in the kicking game, they're good on defense, and man,

633
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: they leave a lot of desire and even when you

634
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: look now they don't throw the ball very well.

635
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 2: You know what I just thought of what it's guardsy.

636
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: Don't you think it's time? You know, Mace prides himself on,

637
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 2: certainly when he was a coach, doing what challenging his

638
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: players right, trying to get the best out of them.

639
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: Job.

640
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 2: As good as you thought you played last week, you

641
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: got another level you can go to. I think it's

642
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: time we challenge you the same way historically we've challenged

643
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: Louis in that you mentioned Wisconsin, and every time you

644
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: mentioned Wisconsin, like like by association, the first thing that

645
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 2: comes in my head is Barry Alvarez. So what you

646
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: should be doing for this show, for this segment is

647
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: every once in a while, maybe once a month, maybe

648
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 2: maybe more. If you get into it, you help us

649
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 2: get a big name from college football like Barry Alvarez

650
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: to come on the show at the same time you're on.

651
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: That's his job in there that Louis Louis got us

652
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: several legends Scotty's Bullman included, that's his Joe.

653
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: I can barely get Glenn here, but you're the but

654
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: you're the conduit. Barry Alvarez is not going to pay

655
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 2: you come to the phone if we call him, if

656
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: you want me up, you're a favor of you make

657
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 2: you look good.

658
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 4: No it this is your show.

659
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 2: This ain't my show. It makes you look great and generous.

660
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: This is on your face, this is your well, you're

661
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: selling shirts.

662
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 4: You changed this show.

663
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: To Bumper and Butter Barrell and Mason, then you might

664
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: I'll have a guy on every week.

665
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 2: Get Mace in your face. It's so Mace, isn't it. Honestly,

666
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 2: I think you need another shirt for the size your ego.

667
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: That would be the other one. Although I don't know

668
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 2: if this shirt's big enough. I don't THINKY make him

669
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 2: big enough at this point, so I'm taking that as

670
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: a no.

671
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 4: I think it'd be.

672
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 2: Here's what we're emitting. We don't have your reach. Yes,

673
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 2: So the idea is the way Louis selflessly said, it'd

674
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 2: be good radio to have Louis on together. Who is

675
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 2: the Kenny Dryden just passed away? We had Kenny Dryden.

676
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 2: It's a great conversation and you and Alvarez, could you

677
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 2: can go back and forth, just ripping the media right

678
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 2: in front of him.

679
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you it's real simple. You know

680
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: what I don't even want Berrero and Mason. I want

681
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: Mason and Brero bumper or bumper.

682
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, if you're if you're first on the billing.

683
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying? All right, Guardsian, I don't think

684
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 2: this is going the way I hoped it would. I

685
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 2: thought he'd love that. Well, he said, maybe I'll just

686
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 2: book Bury myself and then we'll take a half hour

687
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 2: out of Mason's time next week and talk to him.

688
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 4: Good luck.

689
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. Uh, let's get also to Okay, you've you've

690
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 2: given us sort of the Mason manifesto as it pertains

691
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: to you know when to get on the field, when

692
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: to storman when not to. I agree with you totally

693
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: on that. But let's talk about the game itself.

694
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

695
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: I thought from a Gopher standpoint, it was as thorough

696
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 2: and complete a performance in terms of coaching and in

697
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 2: terms of execution as I've seen in a long time.

698
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 2: What did you make of it?

699
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: I thought it was one team that was very well prepared,

700
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: ready to play and played well, and I saw another

701
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 1: team that was not well prepared, didn't play well, totally

702
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: out coached.

703
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 4: And I think it was a case like.

704
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: A boxer going in the ring and he he's one

705
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: hundred percent confident he is going to destroy this guy.

706
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 4: And in round one.

707
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,479
Speaker 1: He gets busted in the nose and he thought, oh,

708
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: I'm into a fight. You know what, It's too late then,

709
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you have got to be prepared each and

710
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 1: every week. Now you see sometimes Dan that a team

711
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: that is really really talented, which Nebraska is not.

712
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 4: I think their quarterback grossly overrated.

713
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: I think whoever, I don't know how many stars he

714
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: had ninety two stars coming out of high school.

715
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 4: No, I don't. I haven't seen it yet.

716
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: Not just.

717
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: Left hand.

718
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 4: No, it's great. You can't pass with his right when

719
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 4: he's right handed.

720
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: So but my point being, sometimes you have team is

721
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: really talented, they can get in that situation and they

722
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: still could overcome that that poor performance. Nebraska isn't one

723
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: of those teams. I would have the venture to say

724
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 1: that when you look at him and I don't know

725
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: this is this I'm not really qualified, I'd say probably

726
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: talent wise, you could argue that Nebraska and Minnesota.

727
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 4: Are kind of equal. You know, this position a little

728
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 4: better there, the other position a little bit better here.

729
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: One was twenty fifth in the country one's not ranked.

730
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: Boom one's ready to play. The endsn't ready to play.

731
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: The outcome is twenty four to six. Now, the reason

732
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: I say that could anybody see.

733
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 4: Because we talked about it last week.

734
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: See the Gophers running rushing for one hundred and eighty

735
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: six yards, I mean, going into this game each and

736
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: every week, they've thrown the ball pretty daring if they

737
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: could pass protect, you know, boom, but they haven't been

738
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: able to run the football.

739
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 4: And how many sacks do they have? Nine?

740
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 2: Oh? Was it at the half? Wasn't my five or

741
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 2: six at the half?

742
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 4: Yeah?

743
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 2: They approach double?

744
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 4: Does that offensive line coach don't have a job.

745
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 2: That's the quarterback's uncle, you know.

746
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 4: Well, I mean yeah, they were a packaged deal, you know,

747
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 4: and it was a.

748
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 2: Bad enough of those packages I mentioned.

749
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: I'm now I'm probably bragging a little bit, but I

750
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: bet there's I bet there's some years we didn't have

751
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: nine sacks.

752
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: Of our season and nine Well, did you did you

753
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 2: hear what guards he told me yesterday that Matt rule,

754
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 2: said admitted during the week after the game, no Matt rule.

755
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 2: And he apparently said, I know this is crazy because

756
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 2: we haven't done anything but we were cocky. We we

757
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 2: went in complacent to that game. How is that possible

758
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 2: when you've accomplished as little as Nebraska has. I don't understand.

759
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 4: That's the problem right there.

760
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: And I saw, I did see where the quarterback said,

761
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: we thought we were going to put on a show. Yeah,

762
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: you forgot you had to play a game, you know,

763
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: And that's right. I mean, I think for whatever reason,

764
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what they were looking at,

765
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: because when I've seen the bits and pieces I'm playing, I.

766
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 4: Haven't been impressed up and down.

767
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: How about this? I was on uh Nebraska radio, were

768
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: you Oh?

769
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 4: Yeah? These opponents they.

770
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: So they like cleaning up to the game.

771
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, they called me, you know, like and you like

772
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: you want me to like they call me. They don't

773
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 1: get Pat Matt Ruhle to call me. They call me

774
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: because they deal up the relationship.

775
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 2: Like you guys should have had a relationship with Barry

776
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 2: al other coaches.

777
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 4: Okay, in fact, I should. He was the coach for

778
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 4: a long time.

779
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: I don't even you've been doing with your long story

780
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: so anyway, but they want to having Barry Alberaz on

781
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: the show next week. We'll get it done.

782
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: Good. And so to make a long story, should they

783
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: were talking in this here.

784
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 2: I was trying to the opportune to say, hey, I

785
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 2: can show you how much power I have, and he

786
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 2: takes it the other way and tries to insult me.

787
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 2: But go ahead.

788
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: But the radio guys they were saying, how improved the

789
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: biggest improvement their team? They weren't talking about the quarterack, Yeah,

790
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: were the offensive defensive lines.

791
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 4: And to me that's that.

792
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: Was where they had really chance humiliated. Yeah, I yeah,

793
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 2: it was the whole the whole thing is for a

794
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 2: program that again, well this is a good example the Gophers.

795
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 2: Gophers are an Iowa this week. Again, I thought that

796
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 2: was as complete a game as the Gophers are played

797
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 2: a long time, terrific performance. But you know how this works,

798
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 2: You got to sustain it, and that I'd say that

799
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 2: Nebraska said to Minnesota the proof is can you can

800
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: you build on what that victory seemed to indicate that

801
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 2: maybe you're figuring some stuff out and you're getting better.

802
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: That's what separates the good teams from the teams that

803
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: are just up and down. Right, you have to follow

804
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 2: through and follow up on.

805
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think the way that you follow through

806
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: is that a game like that has to help your attitude?

807
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: It should you believe, you really buy in? You know,

808
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 1: you think the coaches really know what they're talking about.

809
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: You and I talk while fair about your alma mater, Indiana.

810
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: You know the greatest story about Indiana, let me tell you,

811
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: as great a year as Indianas have, and it's not

812
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: because they got better players than everybody.

813
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, they got good players, and you might say, well,

814
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 4: who's better than that quarterback?

815
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: But by and large they don't have the same players

816
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: that Ohio State has or Alabama or you know, some

817
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: of those other people. But what Signetti has done, he's

818
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 1: got them playing better as a team. And you've heard

819
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: me so many times before because I really believe that

820
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: that football is the greatest team game that has ever

821
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: been invented. And if you can get a group of

822
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: guys to play better together as a team, then the

823
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: other group of people that you're playing, even though they

824
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: have more talent, you can be successful. And I really

825
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: believe that's where they're at.

826
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 2: Can you help us get Signetti on next week too?

827
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 4: I really don't know Kurtz. Signetta doesn't matter. I know

828
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 4: his dad, but he's not your name.

829
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: Your name is supposed to open doors.

830
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 4: I'm lucky to open the door getting here.

831
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 2: Look at what we're doing. I mean, we're promoting your shirt.

832
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 4: We're not I'm not getting anthing know with the shirt.

833
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 2: But I'm not either real. But we're still doing it

834
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: on the goodness of our hearts. When I wrote for

835
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 2: a little generosity from you, when we.

836
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 4: Write my book, we can promote it.

837
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair. Listen to this. This is from trail

838
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 2: ref guy Iowa will win and cover the eight and

839
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: a half. Write that down. We'll see, Well, maybe they won't.

840
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 4: Hey, talk is cheap.

841
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: Talk is cheap?

842
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 4: Is he putting a little cash on it?

843
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 2: Or I don't know?

844
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 4: He's true.

845
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 2: I think he's from I'm pretty sure he's from He's

846
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 2: from keiakok Iowa. Just let me this.

847
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: The psychology of sports though, okay, yes, is that when

848
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: you look at really the performance of both teams Okay

849
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: Iowa and Minison, as they get ready to play each other,

850
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: and they look at the most previous case, they're not

851
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: overlooking anything.

852
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 4: No, that's true, you know what I mean. Give an example.

853
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: Let's say if the if the outcome would have been different,

854
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: Nebraska would have scored twenty four and Minnesota was scored six.

855
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 4: They got sacked nine. To all that stuff. The Hawk

856
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 4: guys might be sitting down there saying, we got this one.

857
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, well based on that last performance, I gain kirk Farns.

858
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 4: He's got him in there.

859
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: They're they're probably in there early every day watching film.

860
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 2: Guards you. I'm getting fired up bout this game. Can

861
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: you get Mason and I a couple of tickets? You

862
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 2: want to drive to Iowa City to see the game, so.

863
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 4: I could get the tickets.

864
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: I don't exactly exactly.

865
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 4: I don't need it, that's the thing. But for me though,

866
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 4: not for you guys.

867
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 2: Very galous. All right, the top of our break. Let's

868
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 2: let's break here and then we'll catch up. We got

869
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 2: a lot a lot of text are kind of a

870
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 2: lot of bitterness.

871
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,760
Speaker 4: How's the food in the fresh box?

872
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 2: Guardsy, Iowa City? Very solidary? I know it, very solid.

873
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Speaker 2: I think historically back in the day Memorial Stadium, Indiana

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Speaker 2: food was among the worst. Back I'm talking about when

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Speaker 2: I was writing, Yeah, back in the my newspaper, like hot.

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Speaker 1: Cold hot dogs. When I was Big ten network. Yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 1: my experience in the big ten. The worst run operations

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Speaker 1: in the Big ten bar none, not even close. Were

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Speaker 1: Indiana and Northwest. Really, I'm telling you they were terrible.

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Speaker 2: You're saying not just food, You're just saying the whole

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Speaker 2: media operation, the whole deal.

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Speaker 4: But you know how you stood Indiana? What's that you

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Speaker 4: have to outsmart him? What do you do anything? But

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Speaker 4: right out the TV box? Okay? Was the President's lounge

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Speaker 4: well stocked? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Did you just walk in there?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: That's that's kind of and.

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Speaker 1: Jack and they thought I was somebody.

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Speaker 4: They thought I was a trustee.

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Speaker 2: All right, dropping the hour break more Mason, your hey.

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Speaker 2: So we returned