Speaker 1: Back on the Big One seven hundred l W it
Speaker 1: is three oh seven, Dan Carroll, Jason Williams in Freddie
Speaker 1: and the Rock.
Speaker 2: It.
Speaker 1: Happy New Year there, Jason Williams New Year's Son. I
Speaker 1: mean it is New Year's Eve. We are ready to
Speaker 1: rock and roll. We're ready to rock and roll. Our
Speaker 1: last show, our last show of and yeah, we've had
Speaker 1: a good run since right before Christmas, saving our saving
Speaker 1: our best guests here for these last I.
Speaker 3: Think we are.
Speaker 1: You know, it was back in June, and if memory serves,
Speaker 1: I think you and I were doing a show together
Speaker 1: back in June. And it was back in June of
Speaker 1: this year when and and right as a show was ending,
Speaker 1: the news was breaking about the house settlement, and I
Speaker 1: and I and I think I was talking to you
Speaker 1: and I said, I said, do you know who the
Speaker 1: house is in the house settlement?
Speaker 3: Does that mean I get a break of my mortgage? Sometimes?
Speaker 1: I said no, I said, I said, the guy's name
Speaker 1: is Grant House at the Saint Ant's High School. And
Speaker 1: when our very man, one of the greatest all time
Speaker 1: swimmers in the state of Ohio, maybe the greatest swimmer
Speaker 1: ever at Santa X High School and that's saying a lot.
Speaker 1: And then he went on to a great college career
Speaker 1: at Arizona State University and Grand House is the one
Speaker 1: along with a group of other college athletes who decided
Speaker 1: to press that lawsuit and said, look, we think college
Speaker 1: athletes should be able to earn money on their name,
Speaker 1: image and likeness. And so today I saw right before
Speaker 1: I came in here, today, I saw the Purdue head
Speaker 1: coach talking about nil and he said, look, we need
Speaker 1: to know what the rules are. He said, because it
Speaker 1: seems like there's not a lot of basketball. Coach Matino
Speaker 1: talk about this. We heard coach cow We played a
Speaker 1: cut from coach cal the other day on this. But
Speaker 1: joining us now is the guy whose name is on
Speaker 1: the house settlement from Saint X High School and Arizona
Speaker 1: State University. It's my pleasure to welcome in Grand House
Speaker 1: and Grand House. How you doing today?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 4: That is some high praise quite the introduction game. It
Speaker 4: was great to be here. Honored. I end with both
Speaker 4: of you.
Speaker 1: I can heap on a lot more praise if you want,
Speaker 1: but we we can, we can, uh, we can put
Speaker 1: that aside for a second. Take me back to the beginning.
Speaker 1: Take me back to when you came up with this
Speaker 1: notion that that, look, college athletes, we ought to be
Speaker 1: able to earn money and and you know, and make
Speaker 1: be able to make a living on our name image
Speaker 1: of Yeah, how did that?
Speaker 3: How did that come about?
Speaker 5: It really started in my freshman year, just kind of
Speaker 5: serendipitously in the freshman dorms with one of the doormats
Speaker 5: across the hall. He made music and he made a
Speaker 5: comment like I can make the worst music ever, and
Speaker 5: you and your teammate can make the best music ever,
Speaker 5: and I can still make more more financial gain off
Speaker 5: of that.
Speaker 4: And I was like, that just doesn't seem right.
Speaker 5: Even though we're having a busier schedule, were occupied opportunities
Speaker 5: with athletics and sports, with practices, training, recovery meets, we
Speaker 5: were limited by being athletes.
Speaker 4: I didn't think that made sense, and so that.
Speaker 5: Kind of sparked my initiatives to advocate for athletes as
Speaker 5: a Student Athlete Advisory President for ASU PAC twelve representative,
Speaker 5: trying to push forward different nutrition initiatives, to get better
Speaker 5: fueling for the athletes, to issue psychological benefits for sports
Speaker 5: psychologists that they issue, and getting better media rights deals
Speaker 5: and opportunities for athletes to actually get viewership at the
Speaker 5: PAC twelve opportunity level across all schools.
Speaker 4: So that moment in.
Speaker 5: The freshman dorms an actual beneficial moment out of freshman dorms.
Speaker 4: I don't feel like you.
Speaker 5: Hear that too often, but it really sparked an unexpected
Speaker 5: kind of a journey for me and to advocating for
Speaker 5: this and believing that student athletes get a lot, and
Speaker 5: athletes in college can achieve a lot, and they deserve
Speaker 5: to access all that potential in grant.
Speaker 3: What an honor it is to have you on the show,
Speaker 3: and Dan said you were going to be on with
Speaker 3: his you know, I was really excited to have you.
Speaker 3: And because we we hear so much, you know, obviously
Speaker 3: we have, you know, a couple of big, big schools
Speaker 3: here with Xavier and UC, so you hear a lot
Speaker 3: about the house settlement. I've talked with my job at
Speaker 3: Cincinnati dot Com, the inquire I've talked with UC Athletic
Speaker 3: Director John Cunningham several times and he's, hey, when the
Speaker 3: house settlement kicks in, can you clarify for our listeners.
Speaker 3: So the big history here is essentially ed O'Bannon was
Speaker 3: a basketball player at U c l A many many
Speaker 3: years ago. His face was on or they put his
Speaker 3: limp image on the EA Sports. He then began the
Speaker 3: ball rolling on saying hey, I'm not making any money
Speaker 3: on this went to the Supreme Court and that that
Speaker 3: really got the ball rolling. But specifically it was your
Speaker 3: pursuit of this that ultimately has led now to basically
Speaker 3: the schools now paying athletes directly. Is that correct?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, and in some shape, shape or form as well. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that that kind of specifies a good amount.
Speaker 3: And so whatever university now out out of the house settlement, Uh,
Speaker 3: it can pay up to twenty point five million dollars
Speaker 3: a year and I think probably escalates based on what
Speaker 3: inflation uh, to their to their athletes, and that that
Speaker 3: could be any athlete in their any in their programs,
Speaker 3: whatever could be swimmer, It could be a basketball player,
Speaker 3: lacrosse player, whatever. Did you ever did did you ever
Speaker 3: think that, uh? It would you know it would it
Speaker 3: would reach this level? And I know obviously you're pursuing that.
Speaker 3: But as you sit back now after the whole settlement
Speaker 3: has been has been done, what do you what do
Speaker 3: you make of of the accomplishment.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I think at the at the time it's
Speaker 5: a great, great question, Jason. I appreciate it, and I
Speaker 5: think it's at the time being honest and vulnerable and authentic.
Speaker 5: Like at the start of all this, I didn't think
Speaker 5: it would escalate to the magnitude and opportunity and potential
Speaker 5: that it does today. But along the way it encouraged
Speaker 5: me a lot to really educate myself and understand that
Speaker 5: NIL has empowered athletes and has the opportunity for the
Speaker 5: first time to allow athletes to understand their value, build brands,
Speaker 5: and gain real world experience and marketing business entrepreneurship, something
Speaker 5: that athletes have historically been excluded from up until you know.
Speaker 5: Ed O'Bannon really took a first big swing at the
Speaker 5: door to knock it down, and then, like you mentioned
Speaker 5: my after Sean Austin Alston versus NCAA came through and
Speaker 5: kind of put took another punch at the door House
Speaker 5: versus Cuba really kicked it down ten feet away from
Speaker 5: the Hinges.
Speaker 3: So hey, Grant, let me ask you.
Speaker 1: This part of the settlement means the NCAA pays out
Speaker 1: two point eight billion dollars in damages to athletes who
Speaker 1: competed from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty five. How important
Speaker 1: was that to you that the athletes of your era
Speaker 1: and a little bit before your era it recoups some
Speaker 1: of this money or see some benefit from what you
Speaker 1: were able to get done.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think to make sure that all athletes involved
Speaker 5: got as much as they could within our legal system.
Speaker 4: You know, obviously we have.
Speaker 5: Precedent involved that limits the date range that it can
Speaker 5: go back. But there are dozens and hundreds and thousands
Speaker 5: of athletes that I knew, whether it was gymnastics, soccer, lacrosse, basketball, swimming,
Speaker 5: anything in those in any regard that could have benefited
Speaker 5: from the successes. They had, the unique characteristics they had
Speaker 5: outside of their sport, their image that the school promoted
Speaker 5: from them. So it was really important for me to
Speaker 5: make sure that it was rectified that as far as
Speaker 5: it could previous in addition to the present and especially
Speaker 5: going forward, because we knew we couldn't do all of
Speaker 5: it for the entire existence of the NCAA back to
Speaker 5: the nineteen nineteen early twenties, but wanted to get as
Speaker 5: much as we could, and obviously we accomplished that as
Speaker 5: as to the best degree we could in the moment.
Speaker 3: So if you're you were an NCAA Division one athlete
Speaker 3: at any school obviously during that time period leading up
Speaker 3: to basically what is today's you know NIL and yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm just making up here, Like say
Speaker 3: I was a division I always say I was a
Speaker 3: soccer player at Northern Kentucky University in twenty seventeen? Am
Speaker 3: i am? I Can I get money from the house
Speaker 3: settlement that two point eight billion? Is everyone eligible who
Speaker 3: played during that period, no matter what school, just as
Speaker 3: long as they were a Division one athlete, are they
Speaker 3: can they be able to get money from that?
Speaker 4: Yeah? That is one hundred percent accurate.
Speaker 5: The timeframe to kind of apply for that and like
Speaker 5: put your your reference range in there of like, hey,
Speaker 5: I was an athlete like you just described as soccer
Speaker 5: player at MKU has passed so they can collect all
Speaker 5: those names and properly distribute it going forward. But that's
Speaker 5: the beauty of NIL is it's not it's not segmented
Speaker 5: to one sport. It's obviously there's a lot of value
Speaker 5: in a couple of different sports, but it doesn't discriminate
Speaker 5: it doesn't segment anything.
Speaker 4: Through any of the sports.
Speaker 5: It's available to every athlete maybe that wants to benefit
Speaker 5: from it. It's available to every school that wants to
Speaker 5: utilize it and leverage it. And so really, as long
Speaker 5: as those athletes were diligent and pursued that when it
Speaker 5: came out, and I tried to make sure to publicize
Speaker 5: that to as many athletes as I knew, anyone could
Speaker 5: benefit from it in various degrees.
Speaker 1: Obviously, So grant you in the sport of swimming, you
Speaker 1: have great name recognition. You remember of the national team,
Speaker 1: You've been around for a long time in the sport,
Speaker 1: and now because of the house settlement, you have great
Speaker 1: name recognition outside of the sport of swimming. What's been
Speaker 1: the upside and what's been some of the downside of
Speaker 1: all this that's taken place.
Speaker 4: Yeah, another great question. I think the real win.
Speaker 5: Is when athletes graduate, they have options and confidence in
Speaker 5: the future beyond the scoreboard or the field or the court. Now,
Speaker 5: I think that's something that's very uplifting to me. They
Speaker 5: have more autonomy and opportunities during their time frame and
Speaker 5: their lifetime as a college athlete too. I think for
Speaker 5: me it's been understanding and being a thought leader in
Speaker 5: this field and a leader to trailblaze this path as
Speaker 5: well for the future really generations and tens of decades
Speaker 5: down the line.
Speaker 4: For I mean, this year, we had.
Speaker 5: About five hundred and fifty thousand athletes competing in the
Speaker 5: NCAA across all divisions, and just to multiply that by
Speaker 5: itself every year for the rest of time is really
Speaker 5: just gratifying and empowering to know that I played a
Speaker 5: huge part to enact that and give that opportunity and
Speaker 5: potential to individuals because I think and I al should
Speaker 5: teach athletes how to build value, not just collect it,
Speaker 5: but how to apply it into their job, into the
Speaker 5: workforce and their lives going forward, instead of.
Speaker 4: Just expecting to collect a paycheck.
Speaker 5: And I think that's been a lot of the rewards,
Speaker 5: getting messages from people in person really or having opportunities
Speaker 5: like I'll be speaking at Marquette, I'll be speaking at
Speaker 5: U Penn I.
Speaker 4: Spoke with USC about a month ago as well.
Speaker 5: Giving back and helping the next generation of sports law
Speaker 5: or studying lawyers as well. Kind of a perspective that
Speaker 5: want to help continue to reshape college athletics and professional
Speaker 5: sports too. I think that's something that college athletics needs
Speaker 5: to do a little bit more of, is learning from
Speaker 5: professional sports, because that really is our bluepoint blueprint coming forward.
Speaker 5: And I'd say the negatives were, unfortunately, but definitely a
Speaker 5: lot more prevalent than the positives along the way.
Speaker 4: Not a lot of the positives came until really this past.
Speaker 5: Summer and spring, but I'd say a lot of the
Speaker 5: negatives were, you know, threats to my life, threats to
Speaker 5: my well being, constant barragement of.
Speaker 4: Media messages, text messages.
Speaker 5: Calls, even from parents, mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, whatever it was,
Speaker 5: student athletes just you know, having a different a change occur,
Speaker 5: and change is hard, change is challenging, but change can
Speaker 5: be positive and good. And I think at that time
Speaker 5: it was just a lot for people to handle, and
Speaker 5: for whatever reason, they felt like it was I was
Speaker 5: taking their emotions and anger out on me.
Speaker 4: It was going to solve their problems, and that just
Speaker 4: isn't the case.
Speaker 5: So it was definitely a lot of reflection and understanding
Speaker 5: controlling what I can control and that everyone else isn't.
Speaker 5: I'm not responsible for everyone else's emotions and reactions, but
Speaker 5: really understanding why I did this, wanting to do this
Speaker 5: for the betterment and the cause of athletes across all divisions,
Speaker 5: and just navigating that to be stronger in myself and
Speaker 5: have better perseverance and determination through this to filter out
Speaker 5: what matters and what doesn't.
Speaker 3: And we well said Grant and look, you're not in
Speaker 3: charge of the rules here, and that that's the big
Speaker 3: that's the big problem with all this now is that
Speaker 3: there's there's a lack of leadership in the NCAA about
Speaker 3: putting rules around this. And I even saw something the
Speaker 3: other day like oh, therefore, all if we do this,
Speaker 3: and like essentially there was a statement put out by
Speaker 3: someone like yeah, I mean it was very you know,
Speaker 3: loyally worded, but it was like basically like if we
Speaker 3: do this, we'll get sued kind of. I think it
Speaker 3: was when the Baylor got the guy had been drafted
Speaker 3: the NBA that none of that, none of that is
Speaker 3: anything that you had anything to do with. You had
Speaker 3: nothing to do with transfer portal, You had nothing to
Speaker 3: do without the transfer portal, and NIL go together. Honestly,
Speaker 3: I think the House settlement was a great thing because
Speaker 3: it brought no pun intended. It brought the money that
Speaker 3: colleges are able to pay their athletes in house instead
Speaker 3: of having outside entities. And I know athletes can they'll
Speaker 3: do that and go out, go out and do you know,
Speaker 3: get extra money out, you know, besides whatever they're making
Speaker 3: from the school. But I think the house settlement was
Speaker 3: a very good thing in this crazy, crazy world. And honestly, granted,
Speaker 3: if it wasn't you, it was going to be you know,
Speaker 3: someone else at some other university or whatever who would
Speaker 3: have done this. So for you to take take the
Speaker 3: lead on this and do it, I think it is
Speaker 3: honestly brought some structure around this world that and you know,
Speaker 3: i'd assume probably a lot of the criticism you've gotten
Speaker 3: is a lack of a lack of education and b
Speaker 3: people taking out the fact that there's a lack of
Speaker 3: leadership in the NCAA to put rules around all this
Speaker 3: on you and I had nothing to do with you.
Speaker 3: I'm on my high horse.
Speaker 4: Now, No I appreciate it. I need I need someone
Speaker 4: on their high horse for me out here to these days. Jason,
Speaker 4: and you're incredibly accurate.
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people just thought I wrote
Speaker 5: every word in a lawsuit and the class action, and
Speaker 5: I believed in this cause, and I believe athletes should
Speaker 5: access these opportunities and have more autonomy and have more
Speaker 5: accountability and responsibilities in their careers and then their lifestyles.
Speaker 5: I've always been told that by my very high level
Speaker 5: of coaches in my career, and I believe that responsibility
Speaker 5: just starts a little bit earlier now for college athletes.
Speaker 4: But the legal system was well.
Speaker 5: In effect before I was ever a consideration in this world,
Speaker 5: even long before the House gears unc double A, and
Speaker 5: the lawyers certainly weren't exactly including me in every single
Speaker 5: drafting of the process either. So I think a lot
Speaker 5: of people will see the name easy Target. They don't
Speaker 5: see the names that are writing up these documents and
Speaker 5: stuff like that along the way, at every stop in
Speaker 5: the courtrooms and in the legal system. So I appreciate
Speaker 5: you pointing that out, because there are certainly some aspects
Speaker 5: that I agreed with and some that I didn't. And
Speaker 5: I just believed in this cause to push it forward
Speaker 5: as best I could. But wasn't there for every single
Speaker 5: letter to be written on the documents?
Speaker 1: All right, grant run, But before we go, I see
Speaker 1: the videos that you put on your social media, you
Speaker 1: look like you're in an awesome shape. You're working with
Speaker 1: athletes in and out of the pool. I'm guessing that
Speaker 1: you're going to take one more shot at the Olympic Trials.
Speaker 3: Is that right?
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, Yes, sir.
Speaker 5: I gotta look the part to be the part, and
Speaker 5: I'm pressing on forward to twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2: LA.
Speaker 4: That's the plan right.
Speaker 3: Now, Olympic Trials. Baby, get it done. Grant. We're rooting
Speaker 3: for you here in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Grant, all the best to you, keep up the great work,
Speaker 1: Happy new Year, and tell your mom and dad we
Speaker 1: said hi, and Grant House one of the all time
Speaker 1: greats here in Ohio. Keep up the great work, man,
Speaker 1: and hopefully we'll get a chance to talk to you on.
Speaker 3: Down the road.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, thanks for having me on. Happy New Year's and
Speaker 5: all the success into twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3: Congratulations on all of your successes in and out of
Speaker 3: the pool. And I think it makes a little extra
Speaker 3: suite to this national thing that's happened that you're a
Speaker 3: Cincinnati guy. So all the best to your happy New year, Grant.
Speaker 4: Thank you, no place better to be from the five
Speaker 4: one three.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 1: We love that grand House. The one and only time
Speaker 1: for a little traffic and weather together. It's seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 3: All right back on the big one, seven hundred W
Speaker 3: LW three thirty seven. Damn Carroll.
Speaker 1: Jason Williams sitting in for Freddy in the Rock. And
Speaker 1: you know, Jason, you and I talked about it. By
Speaker 1: the way, I just want to say thanks to Grant House.
Speaker 1: A great interview there and a great talk about what's
Speaker 1: happening with Nil and Collge sports and all the rest
Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, and you have made some very excellent points,
Speaker 1: thank you about the lack of leadership in the NCAA
Speaker 1: that has let things get to the state that it
Speaker 1: is today. And in so many cases in the world
Speaker 1: in which we live, it is a lack of leadership
Speaker 1: that allows things to get to a point to where
Speaker 1: they just start falling apart. And I think that's what
Speaker 1: we're seeing in Minnesota. As you're ready to say Minnesota
Speaker 1: and the governor there, we have talked about the what's
Speaker 1: going on with the fraud there in the Somalik, not
Speaker 1: just as it relates to childcare, but as it relates
Speaker 1: to this whole notion of feeding our future. So this
Speaker 1: program where you're supposed to feed hungry kids, tons of
Speaker 1: fraud going on there as it relates to these programs
Speaker 1: for kids who have autism who are supposed to and
Speaker 1: they're stealing money based on that, stealing money on housing
Speaker 1: programs that are aimed at individuals who can't take care
Speaker 1: of themselves, the elderly, the poor, veterans, and drug addicted individuals.
Speaker 1: And so this story in Minnesota has been taken on
Speaker 1: a life of its own, and now it's gotten to
Speaker 1: the point to where people are saying, you know what,
Speaker 1: you need to look at these communities all across the country.
Speaker 1: And it turns out Columbus, Ohio has a huge community
Speaker 1: there that the stories are coming out that there is
Speaker 1: all kinds of fraud going on in Columbus, Ohio. And
Speaker 1: let me read to you the words of state Representative
Speaker 1: Josh Williams, who just put this out on his xpeed
Speaker 1: earlier today. Here's what he said, if you're running a
Speaker 1: publicly funded childcare center in Columbus, we will find out
Speaker 1: if you are committing fraud, we will prosecute you to
Speaker 1: the fullest extent of the law, and we will make
Speaker 1: sure you spend years behind bars. We are not playing
Speaker 1: games here and Representative Josh Williams is our guest today
Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW and Josh Williams, welcome to seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLW. Those are some strong words, my friend, and
Speaker 1: it sounds to me like you are ready to back
Speaker 1: that up with action.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I stand behind that statement. I appreciate you guys having
Speaker 7: me on tonight. But let's be clear. Anyone that's committing
Speaker 7: fraud in the state of Ohio when it comes to
Speaker 7: taxpayer dollars, whether it's ceteral money or state money, you
Speaker 7: are going to be prosecuted to the full e center
Speaker 7: the law. And after watching what's been going on in Minnesota,
Speaker 7: we are going to increase the penalties here in the
Speaker 7: state of Ohio. I watched people still millions of dollars
Speaker 7: in that state and get twenty month sentences. When we
Speaker 7: come back in February from our holiday break, I'll be
Speaker 7: introducing legislation that will increase the penalties for fraud when
Speaker 7: public dollars are the source of that fraud to years
Speaker 7: years in prison if you are caught, prosecuted and convicted.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Representing Williams, thank you for joining us here and happy
Speaker 3: New year to you. And I tell you you and
Speaker 3: you've gotten forty other of your colleagues there and the
Speaker 3: legislature on board with this where you and you laid
Speaker 3: it out here very nicely in your document. You know
Speaker 3: you've calling on the state to the state, what is
Speaker 3: it the Ohio Department of Children and Youth to lead
Speaker 3: the charge on conduct increased unannounced inspections of Columbus area
Speaker 3: child care facilities receiving state funding, audit attendance records and
Speaker 3: billings missions to these facilities and so on. Is why
Speaker 3: just Columbus could could you you know, were you planning it?
Speaker 3: Would you think of this? Maybe expanding this across the
Speaker 3: state too?
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, a letter was written broad enough to encompass
Speaker 7: the entire state, but we added some language, particularly Columbus, Ohio,
Speaker 7: because that's where we're getting a large number of complaints
Speaker 7: and allegations of fraud.
Speaker 3: Gotcha.
Speaker 2: The Department of Children and.
Speaker 7: Youth has received thousands of complaints online and to their
Speaker 7: complaint a button on their website. I've received at least
Speaker 7: a couple dozen directly to my social media private message
Speaker 7: or to my actual offices email or voicemail. So we're
Speaker 7: under the process of reviewing these allegations investigating them.
Speaker 2: And what I'm calling on is the Department.
Speaker 7: Of Children in the Youth, a newly created department that
Speaker 7: the legislature created just two years ago to use the
Speaker 7: tools that we gave them for enforcement, which is mainly
Speaker 7: unannounced inspections and attendance reviews. Now, I'm going to give
Speaker 7: some credit to the Department Children of Youth because we
Speaker 7: saw this type of fraud and abuse occurring and the
Speaker 7: prevalence of it in different type of programs across the
Speaker 7: state of Ohio. We wanted these programs under one umbrella,
Speaker 7: and that's why we brought a lot of that under
Speaker 7: one department, a cabinet level, executive branch department under the
Speaker 7: governor for a dc WIY. So now they have that authority,
Speaker 7: they have it in one department, and they've been doing
Speaker 7: things like I'll give you an example.
Speaker 2: They created a pen.
Speaker 7: So when you take your child to one of these
Speaker 7: states sponsored childcare providers, the parent is supposed to enter.
Speaker 2: In a pen when they registered their kid as being
Speaker 2: there for that day.
Speaker 7: Well, what we found out was parents were just turning
Speaker 7: over their pen to the childcare providers. So dc WHY
Speaker 7: wrote a letter to parents saying, if you do this,
Speaker 7: you're in violation. You may lose your childcare. If you've
Speaker 7: done it, you need to request a new pen. And
Speaker 7: try to guess how many families in the state of
Speaker 7: Ohio requested a new pen.
Speaker 2: Over seven thousand for crying. Huh, they had to ask
Speaker 2: for a new pin.
Speaker 7: So we've talked to dc WHY about, Hey, how often
Speaker 7: can we forcibly issue a new pen? And then we
Speaker 7: have some other things that are in the works. I
Speaker 7: don't want to spill the beans too early, but I'm
Speaker 7: drafting legislation that will take care of this attendance problem.
Speaker 7: In real time, we will have the availability of doing
Speaker 7: these unannounced inspections of facilities.
Speaker 2: So we'll be working steadfast in the new year.
Speaker 1: So Josh Williams in Minnesota, it looks like this the
Speaker 1: reports of this fraud, and I know there's already been
Speaker 1: a number of people prosecuted for these these fraudulent activities
Speaker 1: have taken place in Minnesota. Looks like it goes back
Speaker 1: to twenty fifteen, if not before that. I don't know
Speaker 1: how far back in Ohio this story goes. But the
Speaker 1: show that we had on before Jason and I came
Speaker 1: on was ken Brew. He was talking with Jim and
Speaker 1: Ranesi about this, and Jim or Nacy really laid it
Speaker 1: out and said that, you know, look, the government or
Speaker 1: the governor has sort of blown this off. It doesn't
Speaker 1: seem like there was any real appetite in Columbus to
Speaker 1: follow up on this, especially from I guess a law
Speaker 1: enforcement perspective. What is the appetite now as far as
Speaker 1: you're concerned with lawmakers in the state of Ohio, because
Speaker 1: the action that you're taking here or seeking to take
Speaker 1: here seems to be the first real you know, the
Speaker 1: first real words I've seen where someone is coming out
Speaker 1: and when willing to take the stand against this.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean the appetite within the legislature, the legislative
Speaker 7: branch of the government.
Speaker 2: We want increased enforcement.
Speaker 7: We want the laws that we write in the state
Speaker 7: of Ohio to be followed. We're always at inherent conflict
Speaker 7: with the other branches. That's the way Founding fathers designed
Speaker 7: our three branch system to have this inherent conflict where
Speaker 7: we rely on the executive branch to enforce the laws.
Speaker 7: And it's sad to say that we have a governor
Speaker 7: that sometimes refuses to enforce the laws. I mean, even
Speaker 7: laws like the death penalty he refuses to enforce. But
Speaker 7: what we are starting to do as a legislature is
Speaker 7: take back some of our legislative power and say we
Speaker 7: have the power of the purse. This department is going
Speaker 7: to have to come in front of us every two
Speaker 7: years asking for money. We will defund you if you
Speaker 7: do not enforce the laws that we pass. And luckily,
Speaker 7: I mean when I called DCY and spoke to the
Speaker 7: director directly, they were open to this increased effort. They
Speaker 7: have been taking it on themselves since this reporting has started.
Speaker 7: They started to do an increased effort. They appreciated the
Speaker 7: letter that came out of my office.
Speaker 2: With over forty of my.
Speaker 7: Members of the General Assembly signing onto that letter, because
Speaker 7: it didn't just put the onus on DCY independently doing
Speaker 7: this that it's the legislature, the funding body who is
Speaker 7: paying for this childcare, is asking for this investigative tool
Speaker 7: to be used. Because when DC WHY was asking childcare
Speaker 7: providers to do these inspections, they were giving a lot
Speaker 7: of pushback. They were complaining, why are you choosing us?
Speaker 7: Why are you targeting us? Well, now they can look
Speaker 7: at our letter and say, actually, the legislature is the
Speaker 7: one telling us we need to do these inspections, and
Speaker 7: they're the ones telling us to do them in Columbus.
Speaker 7: Because we have over fifty one hundred childcare providers, independently
Speaker 7: childcare providers across the state of Ohio that take government
Speaker 7: dollars in some form. That's a lot of places to
Speaker 7: do daily inspections on. So we have to concentrate right
Speaker 7: now where the allegations are. But we plan on going
Speaker 7: into every city, including my home city, and you're gonna
Speaker 7: see legislation coming out. There was a letter sent to
Speaker 7: fa Auditor Favors office asking for him to look into
Speaker 7: the daycare providers and the healthcare providers because we know
Speaker 7: that fraud is.
Speaker 2: Rampant in that community as well. And I'll give you an.
Speaker 7: Example of what is not technically fraud, but it definitely
Speaker 7: is a lack of respect for the state of Ohio
Speaker 7: and it is a hustle in certain communities. What we
Speaker 7: are finding is some of these daycare providers will have
Speaker 7: two or three employees on staff on a day and
Speaker 7: every child that's at that day care provider is a
Speaker 7: child of one of the employees. The employees being paid
Speaker 7: minimum wage so they remain eligible for free childcare, and
Speaker 7: then the state is paid for you to essentially watch
Speaker 7: your own children throughout the day, and the.
Speaker 2: Childcare provider makes a ton of.
Speaker 7: Money because they're being paid by the state of Ohio.
Speaker 7: Yet that's not technically fraud, but that is literally a hustle.
Speaker 7: That's a hustle, no doubt, using the system that's in place.
Speaker 7: So we're looking at new rules that address that. The
Speaker 7: fear was always Hey, if we have this single mother
Speaker 7: with one or two children and she works at a daycare,
Speaker 7: she should be able to bring her children with her. Yes,
Speaker 7: that's a very sympathetic story. But when you look at
Speaker 7: these micro daycarees is what I call it, where they
Speaker 7: only got ten or twelve kids there and there's three
Speaker 7: employees and all the employees are our children of the employees. Well,
Speaker 7: now I'm just subsidizing someone's lifestyle. Now, I'm just paying
Speaker 7: you to watch your own children. And that's what That's
Speaker 7: not what Ohioans are paying money for. That's not what
Speaker 7: we're getting taxed for to give these individuals a free
Speaker 7: lifestyle where they don't have to go out and earn
Speaker 7: an honest living. So we're going to approach that issue
Speaker 7: in twenty twenty six as well.
Speaker 3: Representative Josh Williams State Representatives with US the Ohio Department
Speaker 3: of Children in Youth. It sounds like part of your
Speaker 3: push here is honing in on that department, which you
Speaker 3: said was just create a few years ago. Can you
Speaker 3: clarify what that what's the difference between that department and
Speaker 3: the basically, you know, what's typically known as our you know,
Speaker 3: Jobs and Family Services department is this is the Ohio
Speaker 3: Department of Children and Youth specifically focused on these daycare
Speaker 3: facilities are and in charge of that.
Speaker 2: They are in.
Speaker 4: Charge of it.
Speaker 7: They have a lot of responsibility. We took the responsibility
Speaker 7: away from the Department of Job and Family Services two
Speaker 7: years ago in places of the Department of Children and Youth.
Speaker 2: So on a local level.
Speaker 7: The Department of Job and Family Services determines eligibility for
Speaker 7: a parent to get subsidized childcare. Then the actual provider
Speaker 7: is seeking out licensure from DCY to become a childcare
Speaker 7: provider that can accept state and federal dollars. They have
Speaker 7: to meet certain requirements to become eligible for those state
Speaker 7: and local dollars. They could be a private childcare provider,
Speaker 7: but to get state in local subsidies, they must meet
Speaker 7: certain requirements and they have to get certain inspections before
Speaker 7: they open. One of them has to be unannounced, and
Speaker 7: then annually they have to get at least one inspection.
Speaker 7: So we're asking for increased inspections, especially when there's allegations
Speaker 7: towards a particular daycare provider. And it doesn't mean that
Speaker 7: a resident has to reach out, go knock on the door,
Speaker 7: demand to see the children the type of stuff we're
Speaker 7: seeing online. Simply reporting them to dc WHY, which they
Speaker 7: have a very good website with the reporting tool, is enough.
Speaker 2: But DCY is being proactice.
Speaker 7: They are watching social media, they're watching how Toledo is
Speaker 7: being viewed across the nation, and they are seeing some
Speaker 7: of these.
Speaker 2: Videos and going to investigate themselves.
Speaker 7: And I applaud them for being proactive because they knew
Speaker 7: the legislature is going to be coming to call them
Speaker 7: to task on what they are doing to south this issue.
Speaker 7: Unlike Minnesota, we are controlled by Republicans.
Speaker 2: Here, we are.
Speaker 7: We're not concerned that Columbus is Democrat controlled itself. All
Speaker 7: of our major metropolitan cities are Democrat controlled, and they
Speaker 7: got this blue bubble of corruption in fraud. I mean,
Speaker 7: just go and look at the mayor's financial report and
Speaker 7: look how many daycare centers donated to him in his
Speaker 7: last election.
Speaker 2: And right yeah, ganther, and look at.
Speaker 7: Our state representatives that represent that district. We're looking through
Speaker 7: their financial reports right now, and look how many john
Speaker 7: Does are donating to them, or people donating thousands of
Speaker 7: dollars and not putting down their employment or their addresses.
Speaker 7: And dozens of daycares that are listed in investigation have
Speaker 7: donated to members of the Democrat Party within the city
Speaker 7: of Columbus. So it's our job as Republicans and control
Speaker 7: of our state to crack down on these blue cities
Speaker 7: that are simply you know, they have their hands out
Speaker 7: for state dollars, but they don't want responsibility when the
Speaker 7: fraud appears. So we're going to crack down, and we're
Speaker 7: going to crack down hard.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, Josh Williams, we're gonna have to leave
Speaker 1: it right there. You're also a candidate for Congress in
Speaker 1: Ohio's ninth district, and so I read a little bit
Speaker 1: about your personal story earlier today. You're an absolute inspiration
Speaker 1: and keep up the great work, my friend. I appreciate
Speaker 1: what you're doing. We're going to be watching from here
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati and the good Lord Willing. I hope we
Speaker 1: get a chance to call on you in the future.
Speaker 2: Thank you, guys, Thank you for reporting on this one.
Speaker 1: All right, thanks for representing Williams. Josh Williams. And the
Speaker 1: first time we've had that guy on. I like him
Speaker 1: a lot. Time for a little traffic and weather together
Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW seven hundred WLW four eleven, Save
Speaker 1: your Basketball coming up at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 1: It's the Eddian Rockey Show, Dan Carroll, Jason Williams sitting
Speaker 1: in for Eddie and Rock and we just had Josh
Speaker 1: Williams on State Lawmaker and I like that guy. First
Speaker 1: time I've had him on the air like that one.
Speaker 1: He has coined a term, and I don't know if
Speaker 1: I've heard this before, but he talked about the cities
Speaker 1: in Ohio the blue the blue surrounded by the blue
Speaker 1: bubble of corruption.
Speaker 3: They got to say, you got to say, I kind
Speaker 3: of like that. Yes, it's the blue bubble. Of corruption.
Speaker 3: It's like a political ad.
Speaker 1: Phone lines are open five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven,
Speaker 1: eight hundred, the big one. If you want to say
Speaker 1: something as we head into the new year, and I
Speaker 1: got something I want to say, but let's let's go
Speaker 1: ahead and get this out of the way. Dick from
Speaker 1: Dating your last chance to be on the air of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 3: Happy new Year to you, buddy, I we knew your Dan.
Speaker 6: Happy new year, Jason. That's been Yeah, it's been good year.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 6: I'm waiting for.
Speaker 8: Ohio State and with that game tonight, something about huh,
Speaker 8: big game tonight, big game tonight. But you know what,
Speaker 8: thought the Bengals off.
Speaker 6: But they've got a chance.
Speaker 8: They might have that four game streak.
Speaker 2: They have a pretty good record.
Speaker 1: You know, well, it's still not making the playoffs. Maybe
Speaker 1: get some momentum going into next year. Who knows, But Dick,
Speaker 1: give me one thing you hope for in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3: Hope for in twenty six?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I want the Bengals to go to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: There you go, that's a good thing to go for.
Speaker 1: Dick from Dayton, all the best to you. We'll be
Speaker 1: talking to you again in twenty twenty six, my friend.
Speaker 3: Okay, you happy New Year. So there you go.
Speaker 1: Dick from Dayton weighing in on what he wants for
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. Let me tell you something that I
Speaker 1: want for twenty on this. So and I've been thinking
Speaker 1: about this, let me tell you for the last three
Speaker 1: days and and just it's a it's a thing that
Speaker 1: bugs me and I am ready for it to end.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if on social media. I'm on
Speaker 1: X and so I get up, I look through my
Speaker 1: ex you know, I see stuff that people are posting
Speaker 1: out there, and it helps kind of generate shows, you know,
Speaker 1: ideas for the show and stuff like that. I don't
Speaker 1: take something I see on X and then take it
Speaker 1: to the air. It gives me. I go and research
Speaker 1: it and look it up and make sure because look,
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of that.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 1: So anyway, if if you're looking at social media, how
Speaker 1: many times have you seen these things? Oh, here's a
Speaker 1: list of of fifty cities.
Speaker 3: How many have you been to?
Speaker 1: Or have you ever and here's a list of things
Speaker 1: you know, have you ever you know used the rotary
Speaker 1: phone or have you you know ever used a floppy
Speaker 1: disk or have you used a manual typewriter? I mean,
Speaker 1: he's got a list like that. I'm tired of seeing
Speaker 1: that stuff. But do you get you know, or they
Speaker 1: say there's no girls name that starts with A and
Speaker 1: ends with a. I mean, how stupid is that? I
Speaker 1: saw That's funny. I saw one. That stuff needs to
Speaker 1: go away. I want all that kind of stuff go on.
Speaker 1: I don't want to that's all.
Speaker 3: I agree. That's what you know. What I'm with you,
Speaker 3: Dan Carroll, that stuff get rid of it? Because I
Speaker 3: saw one. It was was it this morning or yesterday? What?
Speaker 3: What's the the state that starts with a vow and
Speaker 3: ends with a different vow? And like then the gal
Speaker 3: goes through it and she's like saying, I'm like, what
Speaker 3: is this? Iowa? That's it. That's that's that's the answer.
Speaker 3: But she has to go through and it's all it's
Speaker 3: all made up and it I know, but it's on
Speaker 3: my feet. I don't follow these people. It's a waste
Speaker 3: of time.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of that. I don't I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't stop on that stuff anymore. I scrolled right through it.
Speaker 1: But are we that lazy that it's too much effort
Speaker 1: to scroll past something like that.
Speaker 3: Is that your number one wish for twenty twenty It's
Speaker 3: just startage. It's just something that bothers me that I
Speaker 3: don't want to see anymore. So that's when I will.
Speaker 1: If you're listening to us right now, pick up the
Speaker 1: phone five one, three, seven, four nine, seven thousand, one,
Speaker 1: eight hundred, the big one. What do you want to
Speaker 1: what do you want to see in twenty twenty six?
Speaker 1: Or what do you want to go away in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six? You got anything else? No, I don't have anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't have anything. You don't have any wishes
Speaker 3: for the new year.
Speaker 1: This is it, man, This is your last is my
Speaker 1: chance of twenty twenty five? And we got Xavier basketball
Speaker 1: coming up at the bottom of the hour. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what you know you don't want to say for
Speaker 1: the new year is well, you know what I don't
Speaker 1: want to know. Hold on to that thought and let's
Speaker 1: talk to Ed in Western Hills ed seven hundred WLWLL.
Speaker 3: Hillary for Prison twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: Boom click, That dropped the mic. That one has been
Speaker 1: a long time coming, my friend. That was a T
Speaker 1: shirt at one point wasn't it that was a T
Speaker 1: shirt at one point? Wasn't it that one's a I
Speaker 1: think you know, people said that that probably goes back
Speaker 1: to what swenty sixteen A decade. Yeah, I mean we're
Speaker 1: on our second and third edition of that T shirt now,
Speaker 1: Eddie and Columbus seven hundred.
Speaker 3: W W how's it going, Eddie?
Speaker 6: Fantastic, gentlemen. I want to see a thorough investigation of
Speaker 6: the waste fraud and abuse in Ohio, and I'd like
Speaker 6: to see less of my president on social media.
Speaker 1: Eddie, thank you very much for that. You know what
Speaker 1: that's that's I think that's a pretty good idea. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a little bit, but I look a little bit less
Speaker 1: of Trump putting out some of the because I mean
Speaker 1: it's so many times he puts stuff out there that
Speaker 1: is really such an unforced air and it's and stuff
Speaker 1: that doesn't really serve him all that Well.
Speaker 3: Well, the thing he said about Rob Reiner, you know
Speaker 3: and his wife, Yeah, don't say anything, right, Like why
Speaker 3: you say anything? Rob? I mean Rob Reiner said a
Speaker 3: lot a lot of he did worse stuff about Trump.
Speaker 3: He did, but it's like, yeah, you know, he didn't
Speaker 3: he didn't need to dude, what are you doing? Yeah, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you're I mean unforced. There is a good, good phrase
Speaker 3: for it.
Speaker 1: Maybe he should uh maybe, you know, maybe get someone
Speaker 1: in there to sort of be a second set of
Speaker 1: eyeballs on those before you send them out.
Speaker 3: That's a good idea. I'm saying, you're looking over here
Speaker 3: at me. That's a great idea.
Speaker 2: Job.
Speaker 3: Would you have the temperament for a job like that?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: No, I don't. I don't have the temperament for a
Speaker 3: lot of things.
Speaker 1: Randy and Hamilton seven hundred w l W Happy New Year,
Speaker 1: Happy New Year?
Speaker 3: What's up, Brandy?
Speaker 4: Brandy, not much.
Speaker 6: I'm just a long time pan of you guys, and
Speaker 6: I just want to wish I got New Year and.
Speaker 3: Ye got big plans for.
Speaker 4: No, I'm just fall asleep.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that, Randy. What's how does that
Speaker 1: football game start?
Speaker 2: That?
Speaker 3: Randy? Thank you very much for the call. What times
Speaker 3: on football game? Kickoff?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: I'll look it up.
Speaker 1: Look it up, because that might go until I mean
Speaker 1: if it starts at eight, that might go till after
Speaker 1: eleven o'clock. It's so that could go you know, ten
Speaker 1: thirty eleven ish. Yeah, it could we'll see a big
Speaker 1: New Year's celebrator, Dan. You know what we the last
Speaker 1: few years, we've we've gone out and done a couple
Speaker 1: of things. But I think this year we're gonna we're
Speaker 1: gonna dial it back a little bit.
Speaker 3: I'm not big. I've never been a big New Year celebrator.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just another day.
Speaker 1: Gonna watch the watch the football game, maybe a bottle
Speaker 1: of champagne at midnight. Bill and Coleraine Township seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 1: Then we got Danny and Columbus.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Sure, Happy New Year Year, Happy New Year, Happy New Year.
Speaker 1: Bill. What what do you hope for the new year?
Speaker 1: What do you want to see go away in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six?
Speaker 8: I want to see Terry Coles football CONTI bear catch.
Speaker 1: Well he's uh is he still on the Michigan staff?
Speaker 3: I think knew they did the new coach keep him
Speaker 3: or no?
Speaker 8: Because that thing he did not he did not is
Speaker 8: what I'm told he did not what him so he
Speaker 8: did not stay with Michigan.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, all right, Well, Bill, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: I mean, think about that, your Kerry Combs. If they
Speaker 1: announced you're going to go up there, you're going to
Speaker 1: be the special teams coordinator.
Speaker 3: Hopefully I hadn't sold his house here yet.
Speaker 1: And then the next day this stuff comes out about
Speaker 1: the the head coach up there. I mean, man, that's
Speaker 1: I mean that you talk about upside down?
Speaker 2: What a mess.
Speaker 3: I like the guy that got as their coach. I'm
Speaker 3: not a Michigan fan. Kyle whittinghams that the guy's a
Speaker 3: good coach. Cherry Combs is fantastic, though. We we love
Speaker 3: carry Combs here in Cincinnati, Columbus seven hundred WLW. What
Speaker 3: do you want to see for the new year or
Speaker 3: what do you want to go away?
Speaker 8: As an elementary school teacher, I want six seven to
Speaker 8: go away for the rest of my life.
Speaker 3: Oh preach it, brother, I preach it.
Speaker 8: Danny And I.
Speaker 5: Told my students I was born in nineteen sixty seven
Speaker 5: and the only thing.
Speaker 3: I've prad Oh man, his phone cut out. Hey, I
Speaker 3: will carry I will carry the torch on for Danny
Speaker 3: on see. Yes, that is exactly what I want to
Speaker 3: see go away. It's I mean, my kids in the
Speaker 3: middle of a hitting a baseball hitting thing the other
Speaker 3: day with this guy, and the guy was like, you know,
Speaker 3: try to get it to six or seven line drives
Speaker 3: in a row and my kids stops and he like
Speaker 3: does the whole like hand balance thing. That's that's part
Speaker 3: of it. Like where kids will go, you know, six seven,
Speaker 3: like they're juggling something, and I am like anytime they
Speaker 3: hear six seven, hey, six or seven, you know, I
Speaker 3: need you. I need you to be here in six
Speaker 3: or seven minutes. Oh six seven, all right, thanks Danny,
Speaker 3: Tom and Amelia. Very quickly. What do you want to
Speaker 3: see go away in the new year?
Speaker 4: All right, real quick.
Speaker 7: I like to see the rags and fingals and their
Speaker 7: fraudulent ownerships both go away.
Speaker 1: Well, well, I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon.
Speaker 1: But with that we are out of here. Jason, Happy
Speaker 1: New Year to you, Joe, thanks for running the big board.
Speaker 1: Happy new Year to you. Happy new Year to everyone listening.
Speaker 1: But up next is Musketeers basketball on the hull of
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