1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Back on the Big One seven hundred l W it 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: is three oh seven, Dan Carroll, Jason Williams in Freddie 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: and the Rock. 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 2: It. 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: Happy New Year there, Jason Williams New Year's Son. I 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: mean it is New Year's Eve. We are ready to 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: rock and roll. We're ready to rock and roll. Our 8 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: last show, our last show of and yeah, we've had 9 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: a good run since right before Christmas, saving our saving 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: our best guests here for these last I. 11 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 3: Think we are. 12 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: You know, it was back in June, and if memory serves, 13 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: I think you and I were doing a show together 14 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: back in June. And it was back in June of 15 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: this year when and and right as a show was ending, 16 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: the news was breaking about the house settlement, and I 17 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: and I and I think I was talking to you 18 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: and I said, I said, do you know who the 19 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: house is in the house settlement? 20 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 3: Does that mean I get a break of my mortgage? Sometimes? 21 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: I said no, I said, I said, the guy's name 22 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: is Grant House at the Saint Ant's High School. And 23 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: when our very man, one of the greatest all time 24 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: swimmers in the state of Ohio, maybe the greatest swimmer 25 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: ever at Santa X High School and that's saying a lot. 26 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 1: And then he went on to a great college career 27 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: at Arizona State University and Grand House is the one 28 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: along with a group of other college athletes who decided 29 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: to press that lawsuit and said, look, we think college 30 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: athletes should be able to earn money on their name, 31 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: image and likeness. And so today I saw right before 32 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: I came in here, today, I saw the Purdue head 33 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: coach talking about nil and he said, look, we need 34 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: to know what the rules are. He said, because it 35 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: seems like there's not a lot of basketball. Coach Matino 36 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: talk about this. We heard coach cow We played a 37 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: cut from coach cal the other day on this. But 38 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: joining us now is the guy whose name is on 39 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: the house settlement from Saint X High School and Arizona 40 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: State University. It's my pleasure to welcome in Grand House 41 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: and Grand House. How you doing today? 42 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: Wow? 43 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 4: That is some high praise quite the introduction game. It 44 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 4: was great to be here. Honored. I end with both 45 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 4: of you. 46 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: I can heap on a lot more praise if you want, 47 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: but we we can, we can, uh, we can put 48 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: that aside for a second. Take me back to the beginning. 49 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: Take me back to when you came up with this 50 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: notion that that, look, college athletes, we ought to be 51 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,399 Speaker 1: able to earn money and and you know, and make 52 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 1: be able to make a living on our name image 53 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: of Yeah, how did that? 54 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 3: How did that come about? 55 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 5: It really started in my freshman year, just kind of 56 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 5: serendipitously in the freshman dorms with one of the doormats 57 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 5: across the hall. He made music and he made a 58 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 5: comment like I can make the worst music ever, and 59 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 5: you and your teammate can make the best music ever, 60 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 5: and I can still make more more financial gain off 61 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 5: of that. 62 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 4: And I was like, that just doesn't seem right. 63 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 5: Even though we're having a busier schedule, were occupied opportunities 64 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 5: with athletics and sports, with practices, training, recovery meets, we 65 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 5: were limited by being athletes. 66 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 4: I didn't think that made sense, and so that. 67 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 5: Kind of sparked my initiatives to advocate for athletes as 68 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:18,279 Speaker 5: a Student Athlete Advisory President for ASU PAC twelve representative, 69 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 5: trying to push forward different nutrition initiatives, to get better 70 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 5: fueling for the athletes, to issue psychological benefits for sports 71 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 5: psychologists that they issue, and getting better media rights deals 72 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 5: and opportunities for athletes to actually get viewership at the 73 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 5: PAC twelve opportunity level across all schools. 74 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 4: So that moment in. 75 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 5: The freshman dorms an actual beneficial moment out of freshman dorms. 76 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 4: I don't feel like you. 77 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 5: Hear that too often, but it really sparked an unexpected 78 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 5: kind of a journey for me and to advocating for 79 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 5: this and believing that student athletes get a lot, and 80 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 5: athletes in college can achieve a lot, and they deserve 81 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 5: to access all that potential in grant. 82 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 3: What an honor it is to have you on the show, 83 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 3: and Dan said you were going to be on with 84 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 3: his you know, I was really excited to have you. 85 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 3: And because we we hear so much, you know, obviously 86 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 3: we have, you know, a couple of big, big schools 87 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 3: here with Xavier and UC, so you hear a lot 88 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 3: about the house settlement. I've talked with my job at 89 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 3: Cincinnati dot Com, the inquire I've talked with UC Athletic 90 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 3: Director John Cunningham several times and he's, hey, when the 91 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 3: house settlement kicks in, can you clarify for our listeners. 92 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 3: So the big history here is essentially ed O'Bannon was 93 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 3: a basketball player at U c l A many many 94 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 3: years ago. His face was on or they put his 95 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: limp image on the EA Sports. He then began the 96 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 3: ball rolling on saying hey, I'm not making any money 97 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 3: on this went to the Supreme Court and that that 98 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 3: really got the ball rolling. But specifically it was your 99 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 3: pursuit of this that ultimately has led now to basically 100 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 3: the schools now paying athletes directly. Is that correct? 101 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 4: Uh? 102 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, and in some shape, shape or form as well. Yeah, 103 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 5: that that kind of specifies a good amount. 104 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 3: And so whatever university now out out of the house settlement, Uh, 105 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 3: it can pay up to twenty point five million dollars 106 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 3: a year and I think probably escalates based on what 107 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 3: inflation uh, to their to their athletes, and that that 108 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 3: could be any athlete in their any in their programs, 109 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 3: whatever could be swimmer, It could be a basketball player, 110 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 3: lacrosse player, whatever. Did you ever did did you ever 111 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 3: think that, uh? It would you know it would it 112 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: would reach this level? And I know obviously you're pursuing that. 113 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 3: But as you sit back now after the whole settlement 114 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: has been has been done, what do you what do 115 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 3: you make of of the accomplishment. 116 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I think at the at the time it's 117 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 5: a great, great question, Jason. I appreciate it, and I 118 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 5: think it's at the time being honest and vulnerable and authentic. 119 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 5: Like at the start of all this, I didn't think 120 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 5: it would escalate to the magnitude and opportunity and potential 121 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 5: that it does today. But along the way it encouraged 122 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 5: me a lot to really educate myself and understand that 123 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 5: NIL has empowered athletes and has the opportunity for the 124 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 5: first time to allow athletes to understand their value, build brands, 125 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 5: and gain real world experience and marketing business entrepreneurship, something 126 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 5: that athletes have historically been excluded from up until you know. 127 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 5: Ed O'Bannon really took a first big swing at the 128 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 5: door to knock it down, and then, like you mentioned 129 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 5: my after Sean Austin Alston versus NCAA came through and 130 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 5: kind of put took another punch at the door House 131 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 5: versus Cuba really kicked it down ten feet away from 132 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 5: the Hinges. 133 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: So hey, Grant, let me ask you. 134 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: This part of the settlement means the NCAA pays out 135 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: two point eight billion dollars in damages to athletes who 136 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: competed from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty five. How important 137 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: was that to you that the athletes of your era 138 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: and a little bit before your era it recoups some 139 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: of this money or see some benefit from what you 140 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: were able to get done. 141 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think to make sure that all athletes involved 142 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,679 Speaker 5: got as much as they could within our legal system. 143 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 4: You know, obviously we have. 144 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 5: Precedent involved that limits the date range that it can 145 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 5: go back. But there are dozens and hundreds and thousands 146 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 5: of athletes that I knew, whether it was gymnastics, soccer, lacrosse, basketball, swimming, 147 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 5: anything in those in any regard that could have benefited 148 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 5: from the successes. They had, the unique characteristics they had 149 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 5: outside of their sport, their image that the school promoted 150 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 5: from them. So it was really important for me to 151 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 5: make sure that it was rectified that as far as 152 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 5: it could previous in addition to the present and especially 153 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 5: going forward, because we knew we couldn't do all of 154 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 5: it for the entire existence of the NCAA back to 155 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 5: the nineteen nineteen early twenties, but wanted to get as 156 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 5: much as we could, and obviously we accomplished that as 157 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 5: as to the best degree we could in the moment. 158 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 3: So if you're you were an NCAA Division one athlete 159 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 3: at any school obviously during that time period leading up 160 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 3: to basically what is today's you know NIL and yeah, 161 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm just making up here, Like say 162 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 3: I was a division I always say I was a 163 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 3: soccer player at Northern Kentucky University in twenty seventeen? Am 164 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 3: i am? I Can I get money from the house 165 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 3: settlement that two point eight billion? Is everyone eligible who 166 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 3: played during that period, no matter what school, just as 167 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 3: long as they were a Division one athlete, are they 168 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 3: can they be able to get money from that? 169 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 4: Yeah? That is one hundred percent accurate. 170 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 5: The timeframe to kind of apply for that and like 171 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 5: put your your reference range in there of like, hey, 172 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 5: I was an athlete like you just described as soccer 173 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 5: player at MKU has passed so they can collect all 174 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 5: those names and properly distribute it going forward. But that's 175 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 5: the beauty of NIL is it's not it's not segmented 176 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 5: to one sport. It's obviously there's a lot of value 177 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 5: in a couple of different sports, but it doesn't discriminate 178 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 5: it doesn't segment anything. 179 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 4: Through any of the sports. 180 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 5: It's available to every athlete maybe that wants to benefit 181 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 5: from it. It's available to every school that wants to 182 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 5: utilize it and leverage it. And so really, as long 183 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 5: as those athletes were diligent and pursued that when it 184 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 5: came out, and I tried to make sure to publicize 185 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 5: that to as many athletes as I knew, anyone could 186 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 5: benefit from it in various degrees. 187 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: Obviously, So grant you in the sport of swimming, you 188 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: have great name recognition. You remember of the national team, 189 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: You've been around for a long time in the sport, 190 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: and now because of the house settlement, you have great 191 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: name recognition outside of the sport of swimming. What's been 192 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: the upside and what's been some of the downside of 193 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: all this that's taken place. 194 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, another great question. I think the real win. 195 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 5: Is when athletes graduate, they have options and confidence in 196 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 5: the future beyond the scoreboard or the field or the court. Now, 197 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 5: I think that's something that's very uplifting to me. They 198 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 5: have more autonomy and opportunities during their time frame and 199 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 5: their lifetime as a college athlete too. I think for 200 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 5: me it's been understanding and being a thought leader in 201 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 5: this field and a leader to trailblaze this path as 202 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 5: well for the future really generations and tens of decades 203 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 5: down the line. 204 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 4: For I mean, this year, we had. 205 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 5: About five hundred and fifty thousand athletes competing in the 206 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 5: NCAA across all divisions, and just to multiply that by 207 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 5: itself every year for the rest of time is really 208 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 5: just gratifying and empowering to know that I played a 209 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 5: huge part to enact that and give that opportunity and 210 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 5: potential to individuals because I think and I al should 211 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 5: teach athletes how to build value, not just collect it, 212 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 5: but how to apply it into their job, into the 213 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 5: workforce and their lives going forward, instead of. 214 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 4: Just expecting to collect a paycheck. 215 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 5: And I think that's been a lot of the rewards, 216 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 5: getting messages from people in person really or having opportunities 217 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 5: like I'll be speaking at Marquette, I'll be speaking at 218 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 5: U Penn I. 219 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 4: Spoke with USC about a month ago as well. 220 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 5: Giving back and helping the next generation of sports law 221 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 5: or studying lawyers as well. Kind of a perspective that 222 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 5: want to help continue to reshape college athletics and professional 223 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 5: sports too. I think that's something that college athletics needs 224 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 5: to do a little bit more of, is learning from 225 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 5: professional sports, because that really is our bluepoint blueprint coming forward. 226 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 5: And I'd say the negatives were, unfortunately, but definitely a 227 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 5: lot more prevalent than the positives along the way. 228 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 4: Not a lot of the positives came until really this past. 229 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 5: Summer and spring, but I'd say a lot of the 230 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 5: negatives were, you know, threats to my life, threats to 231 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 5: my well being, constant barragement of. 232 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 4: Media messages, text messages. 233 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 5: Calls, even from parents, mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, whatever it was, 234 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 5: student athletes just you know, having a different a change occur, 235 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 5: and change is hard, change is challenging, but change can 236 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 5: be positive and good. And I think at that time 237 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 5: it was just a lot for people to handle, and 238 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 5: for whatever reason, they felt like it was I was 239 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 5: taking their emotions and anger out on me. 240 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 4: It was going to solve their problems, and that just 241 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 4: isn't the case. 242 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 5: So it was definitely a lot of reflection and understanding 243 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 5: controlling what I can control and that everyone else isn't. 244 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 5: I'm not responsible for everyone else's emotions and reactions, but 245 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 5: really understanding why I did this, wanting to do this 246 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 5: for the betterment and the cause of athletes across all divisions, 247 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 5: and just navigating that to be stronger in myself and 248 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 5: have better perseverance and determination through this to filter out 249 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 5: what matters and what doesn't. 250 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 3: And we well said Grant and look, you're not in 251 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 3: charge of the rules here, and that that's the big 252 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 3: that's the big problem with all this now is that 253 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 3: there's there's a lack of leadership in the NCAA about 254 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 3: putting rules around this. And I even saw something the 255 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 3: other day like oh, therefore, all if we do this, 256 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 3: and like essentially there was a statement put out by 257 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 3: someone like yeah, I mean it was very you know, 258 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 3: loyally worded, but it was like basically like if we 259 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 3: do this, we'll get sued kind of. I think it 260 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 3: was when the Baylor got the guy had been drafted 261 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 3: the NBA that none of that, none of that is 262 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 3: anything that you had anything to do with. You had 263 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 3: nothing to do with transfer portal, You had nothing to 264 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 3: do without the transfer portal, and NIL go together. Honestly, 265 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 3: I think the House settlement was a great thing because 266 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 3: it brought no pun intended. It brought the money that 267 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 3: colleges are able to pay their athletes in house instead 268 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 3: of having outside entities. And I know athletes can they'll 269 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 3: do that and go out, go out and do you know, 270 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 3: get extra money out, you know, besides whatever they're making 271 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 3: from the school. But I think the house settlement was 272 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 3: a very good thing in this crazy, crazy world. And honestly, granted, 273 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 3: if it wasn't you, it was going to be you know, 274 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 3: someone else at some other university or whatever who would 275 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 3: have done this. So for you to take take the 276 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 3: lead on this and do it, I think it is 277 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 3: honestly brought some structure around this world that and you know, 278 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 3: i'd assume probably a lot of the criticism you've gotten 279 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 3: is a lack of a lack of education and b 280 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 3: people taking out the fact that there's a lack of 281 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 3: leadership in the NCAA to put rules around all this 282 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 3: on you and I had nothing to do with you. 283 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 3: I'm on my high horse. 284 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 4: Now, No I appreciate it. I need I need someone 285 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 4: on their high horse for me out here to these days. Jason, 286 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 4: and you're incredibly accurate. 287 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 5: I think a lot of people just thought I wrote 288 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 5: every word in a lawsuit and the class action, and 289 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 5: I believed in this cause, and I believe athletes should 290 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 5: access these opportunities and have more autonomy and have more 291 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 5: accountability and responsibilities in their careers and then their lifestyles. 292 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 5: I've always been told that by my very high level 293 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 5: of coaches in my career, and I believe that responsibility 294 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 5: just starts a little bit earlier now for college athletes. 295 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 4: But the legal system was well. 296 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 5: In effect before I was ever a consideration in this world, 297 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 5: even long before the House gears unc double A, and 298 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 5: the lawyers certainly weren't exactly including me in every single 299 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 5: drafting of the process either. So I think a lot 300 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 5: of people will see the name easy Target. They don't 301 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 5: see the names that are writing up these documents and 302 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 5: stuff like that along the way, at every stop in 303 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 5: the courtrooms and in the legal system. So I appreciate 304 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 5: you pointing that out, because there are certainly some aspects 305 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 5: that I agreed with and some that I didn't. And 306 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 5: I just believed in this cause to push it forward 307 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 5: as best I could. But wasn't there for every single 308 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 5: letter to be written on the documents? 309 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: All right, grant run, But before we go, I see 310 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: the videos that you put on your social media, you 311 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: look like you're in an awesome shape. You're working with 312 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: athletes in and out of the pool. I'm guessing that 313 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: you're going to take one more shot at the Olympic Trials. 314 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 3: Is that right? 315 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 4: Yes, sir, Yes, sir. 316 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 5: I gotta look the part to be the part, and 317 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 5: I'm pressing on forward to twenty twenty eight. 318 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 2: LA. 319 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 4: That's the plan right. 320 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 3: Now, Olympic Trials. Baby, get it done. Grant. We're rooting 321 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 3: for you here in Cincinnati. 322 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: Grant, all the best to you, keep up the great work, 323 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: Happy new Year, and tell your mom and dad we 324 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: said hi, and Grant House one of the all time 325 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: greats here in Ohio. Keep up the great work, man, 326 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: and hopefully we'll get a chance to talk to you on. 327 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 3: Down the road. 328 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 5: Absolutely, thanks for having me on. Happy New Year's and 329 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 5: all the success into twenty twenty six. 330 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 3: Congratulations on all of your successes in and out of 331 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 3: the pool. And I think it makes a little extra 332 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 3: suite to this national thing that's happened that you're a 333 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 3: Cincinnati guy. So all the best to your happy New year, Grant. 334 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 4: Thank you, no place better to be from the five 335 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 4: one three. 336 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 3: There you go. 337 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: We love that grand House. The one and only time 338 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: for a little traffic and weather together. It's seven hundred WLW. 339 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 3: All right back on the big one, seven hundred W 340 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 3: LW three thirty seven. Damn Carroll. 341 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: Jason Williams sitting in for Freddy in the Rock. And 342 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: you know, Jason, you and I talked about it. By 343 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: the way, I just want to say thanks to Grant House. 344 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 1: A great interview there and a great talk about what's 345 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: happening with Nil and Collge sports and all the rest 346 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, and you have made some very excellent points, 347 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: thank you about the lack of leadership in the NCAA 348 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: that has let things get to the state that it 349 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 1: is today. And in so many cases in the world 350 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: in which we live, it is a lack of leadership 351 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: that allows things to get to a point to where 352 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: they just start falling apart. And I think that's what 353 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: we're seeing in Minnesota. As you're ready to say Minnesota 354 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: and the governor there, we have talked about the what's 355 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: going on with the fraud there in the Somalik, not 356 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: just as it relates to childcare, but as it relates 357 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: to this whole notion of feeding our future. So this 358 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: program where you're supposed to feed hungry kids, tons of 359 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: fraud going on there as it relates to these programs 360 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: for kids who have autism who are supposed to and 361 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: they're stealing money based on that, stealing money on housing 362 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 1: programs that are aimed at individuals who can't take care 363 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: of themselves, the elderly, the poor, veterans, and drug addicted individuals. 364 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: And so this story in Minnesota has been taken on 365 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: a life of its own, and now it's gotten to 366 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: the point to where people are saying, you know what, 367 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: you need to look at these communities all across the country. 368 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: And it turns out Columbus, Ohio has a huge community 369 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: there that the stories are coming out that there is 370 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: all kinds of fraud going on in Columbus, Ohio. And 371 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: let me read to you the words of state Representative 372 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: Josh Williams, who just put this out on his xpeed 373 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,959 Speaker 1: earlier today. Here's what he said, if you're running a 374 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: publicly funded childcare center in Columbus, we will find out 375 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: if you are committing fraud, we will prosecute you to 376 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: the fullest extent of the law, and we will make 377 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: sure you spend years behind bars. We are not playing 378 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: games here and Representative Josh Williams is our guest today 379 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW and Josh Williams, welcome to seven 380 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: hundred WLW. Those are some strong words, my friend, and 381 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: it sounds to me like you are ready to back 382 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: that up with action. 383 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 6: Yeah. 384 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 7: I stand behind that statement. I appreciate you guys having 385 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 7: me on tonight. But let's be clear. Anyone that's committing 386 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 7: fraud in the state of Ohio when it comes to 387 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 7: taxpayer dollars, whether it's ceteral money or state money, you 388 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 7: are going to be prosecuted to the full e center 389 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 7: the law. And after watching what's been going on in Minnesota, 390 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 7: we are going to increase the penalties here in the 391 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 7: state of Ohio. I watched people still millions of dollars 392 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 7: in that state and get twenty month sentences. When we 393 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 7: come back in February from our holiday break, I'll be 394 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 7: introducing legislation that will increase the penalties for fraud when 395 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 7: public dollars are the source of that fraud to years 396 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 7: years in prison if you are caught, prosecuted and convicted. 397 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 398 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 3: Representing Williams, thank you for joining us here and happy 399 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 3: New year to you. And I tell you you and 400 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 3: you've gotten forty other of your colleagues there and the 401 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 3: legislature on board with this where you and you laid 402 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 3: it out here very nicely in your document. You know 403 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 3: you've calling on the state to the state, what is 404 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 3: it the Ohio Department of Children and Youth to lead 405 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 3: the charge on conduct increased unannounced inspections of Columbus area 406 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 3: child care facilities receiving state funding, audit attendance records and 407 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 3: billings missions to these facilities and so on. Is why 408 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 3: just Columbus could could you you know, were you planning it? 409 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 3: Would you think of this? Maybe expanding this across the 410 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 3: state too? 411 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, a letter was written broad enough to encompass 412 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 7: the entire state, but we added some language, particularly Columbus, Ohio, 413 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 7: because that's where we're getting a large number of complaints 414 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 7: and allegations of fraud. 415 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 3: Gotcha. 416 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 2: The Department of Children and. 417 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 7: Youth has received thousands of complaints online and to their 418 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 7: complaint a button on their website. I've received at least 419 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 7: a couple dozen directly to my social media private message 420 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 7: or to my actual offices email or voicemail. So we're 421 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 7: under the process of reviewing these allegations investigating them. 422 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 2: And what I'm calling on is the Department. 423 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 7: Of Children in the Youth, a newly created department that 424 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 7: the legislature created just two years ago to use the 425 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 7: tools that we gave them for enforcement, which is mainly 426 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 7: unannounced inspections and attendance reviews. Now, I'm going to give 427 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 7: some credit to the Department Children of Youth because we 428 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 7: saw this type of fraud and abuse occurring and the 429 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 7: prevalence of it in different type of programs across the 430 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 7: state of Ohio. We wanted these programs under one umbrella, 431 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 7: and that's why we brought a lot of that under 432 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 7: one department, a cabinet level, executive branch department under the 433 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 7: governor for a dc WIY. So now they have that authority, 434 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 7: they have it in one department, and they've been doing 435 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 7: things like I'll give you an example. 436 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 2: They created a pen. 437 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 7: So when you take your child to one of these 438 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 7: states sponsored childcare providers, the parent is supposed to enter. 439 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 2: In a pen when they registered their kid as being 440 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 2: there for that day. 441 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 7: Well, what we found out was parents were just turning 442 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 7: over their pen to the childcare providers. So dc WHY 443 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 7: wrote a letter to parents saying, if you do this, 444 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 7: you're in violation. You may lose your childcare. If you've 445 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 7: done it, you need to request a new pen. And 446 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 7: try to guess how many families in the state of 447 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 7: Ohio requested a new pen. 448 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 2: Over seven thousand for crying. Huh, they had to ask 449 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 2: for a new pin. 450 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 7: So we've talked to dc WHY about, Hey, how often 451 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 7: can we forcibly issue a new pen? And then we 452 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 7: have some other things that are in the works. I 453 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 7: don't want to spill the beans too early, but I'm 454 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 7: drafting legislation that will take care of this attendance problem. 455 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 7: In real time, we will have the availability of doing 456 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 7: these unannounced inspections of facilities. 457 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 2: So we'll be working steadfast in the new year. 458 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: So Josh Williams in Minnesota, it looks like this the 459 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: reports of this fraud, and I know there's already been 460 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: a number of people prosecuted for these these fraudulent activities 461 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: have taken place in Minnesota. Looks like it goes back 462 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: to twenty fifteen, if not before that. I don't know 463 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: how far back in Ohio this story goes. But the 464 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: show that we had on before Jason and I came 465 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: on was ken Brew. He was talking with Jim and 466 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: Ranesi about this, and Jim or Nacy really laid it 467 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: out and said that, you know, look, the government or 468 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: the governor has sort of blown this off. It doesn't 469 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: seem like there was any real appetite in Columbus to 470 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 1: follow up on this, especially from I guess a law 471 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: enforcement perspective. What is the appetite now as far as 472 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: you're concerned with lawmakers in the state of Ohio, because 473 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: the action that you're taking here or seeking to take 474 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: here seems to be the first real you know, the 475 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: first real words I've seen where someone is coming out 476 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: and when willing to take the stand against this. 477 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean the appetite within the legislature, the legislative 478 00:24:58,840 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 7: branch of the government. 479 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 2: We want increased enforcement. 480 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 7: We want the laws that we write in the state 481 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 7: of Ohio to be followed. We're always at inherent conflict 482 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 7: with the other branches. That's the way Founding fathers designed 483 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 7: our three branch system to have this inherent conflict where 484 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 7: we rely on the executive branch to enforce the laws. 485 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 7: And it's sad to say that we have a governor 486 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 7: that sometimes refuses to enforce the laws. I mean, even 487 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 7: laws like the death penalty he refuses to enforce. But 488 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 7: what we are starting to do as a legislature is 489 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 7: take back some of our legislative power and say we 490 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 7: have the power of the purse. This department is going 491 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 7: to have to come in front of us every two 492 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 7: years asking for money. We will defund you if you 493 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 7: do not enforce the laws that we pass. And luckily, 494 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,719 Speaker 7: I mean when I called DCY and spoke to the 495 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 7: director directly, they were open to this increased effort. They 496 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 7: have been taking it on themselves since this reporting has started. 497 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 7: They started to do an increased effort. They appreciated the 498 00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 7: letter that came out of my office. 499 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 2: With over forty of my. 500 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 7: Members of the General Assembly signing onto that letter, because 501 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 7: it didn't just put the onus on DCY independently doing 502 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 7: this that it's the legislature, the funding body who is 503 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 7: paying for this childcare, is asking for this investigative tool 504 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 7: to be used. Because when DC WHY was asking childcare 505 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 7: providers to do these inspections, they were giving a lot 506 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 7: of pushback. They were complaining, why are you choosing us? 507 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 7: Why are you targeting us? Well, now they can look 508 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 7: at our letter and say, actually, the legislature is the 509 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 7: one telling us we need to do these inspections, and 510 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 7: they're the ones telling us to do them in Columbus. 511 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 7: Because we have over fifty one hundred childcare providers, independently 512 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 7: childcare providers across the state of Ohio that take government 513 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 7: dollars in some form. That's a lot of places to 514 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 7: do daily inspections on. So we have to concentrate right 515 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 7: now where the allegations are. But we plan on going 516 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 7: into every city, including my home city, and you're gonna 517 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 7: see legislation coming out. There was a letter sent to 518 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 7: fa Auditor Favors office asking for him to look into 519 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 7: the daycare providers and the healthcare providers because we know 520 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 7: that fraud is. 521 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 2: Rampant in that community as well. And I'll give you an. 522 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 7: Example of what is not technically fraud, but it definitely 523 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 7: is a lack of respect for the state of Ohio 524 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 7: and it is a hustle in certain communities. What we 525 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 7: are finding is some of these daycare providers will have 526 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 7: two or three employees on staff on a day and 527 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 7: every child that's at that day care provider is a 528 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 7: child of one of the employees. The employees being paid 529 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 7: minimum wage so they remain eligible for free childcare, and 530 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 7: then the state is paid for you to essentially watch 531 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 7: your own children throughout the day, and the. 532 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 2: Childcare provider makes a ton of. 533 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 7: Money because they're being paid by the state of Ohio. 534 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 7: Yet that's not technically fraud, but that is literally a hustle. 535 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 7: That's a hustle, no doubt, using the system that's in place. 536 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 7: So we're looking at new rules that address that. The 537 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 7: fear was always Hey, if we have this single mother 538 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 7: with one or two children and she works at a daycare, 539 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 7: she should be able to bring her children with her. Yes, 540 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,719 Speaker 7: that's a very sympathetic story. But when you look at 541 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 7: these micro daycarees is what I call it, where they 542 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 7: only got ten or twelve kids there and there's three 543 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 7: employees and all the employees are our children of the employees. Well, 544 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 7: now I'm just subsidizing someone's lifestyle. Now, I'm just paying 545 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 7: you to watch your own children. And that's what That's 546 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 7: not what Ohioans are paying money for. That's not what 547 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 7: we're getting taxed for to give these individuals a free 548 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 7: lifestyle where they don't have to go out and earn 549 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 7: an honest living. So we're going to approach that issue 550 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 7: in twenty twenty six as well. 551 00:28:53,640 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 3: Representative Josh Williams State Representatives with US the Ohio Department 552 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 3: of Children in Youth. It sounds like part of your 553 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 3: push here is honing in on that department, which you 554 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 3: said was just create a few years ago. Can you 555 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 3: clarify what that what's the difference between that department and 556 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 3: the basically, you know, what's typically known as our you know, 557 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 3: Jobs and Family Services department is this is the Ohio 558 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 3: Department of Children and Youth specifically focused on these daycare 559 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 3: facilities are and in charge of that. 560 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 2: They are in. 561 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 4: Charge of it. 562 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 7: They have a lot of responsibility. We took the responsibility 563 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 7: away from the Department of Job and Family Services two 564 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 7: years ago in places of the Department of Children and Youth. 565 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: So on a local level. 566 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 7: The Department of Job and Family Services determines eligibility for 567 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 7: a parent to get subsidized childcare. Then the actual provider 568 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 7: is seeking out licensure from DCY to become a childcare 569 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 7: provider that can accept state and federal dollars. They have 570 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 7: to meet certain requirements to become eligible for those state 571 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 7: and local dollars. They could be a private childcare provider, 572 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 7: but to get state in local subsidies, they must meet 573 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 7: certain requirements and they have to get certain inspections before 574 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 7: they open. One of them has to be unannounced, and 575 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 7: then annually they have to get at least one inspection. 576 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 7: So we're asking for increased inspections, especially when there's allegations 577 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 7: towards a particular daycare provider. And it doesn't mean that 578 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 7: a resident has to reach out, go knock on the door, 579 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 7: demand to see the children the type of stuff we're 580 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 7: seeing online. Simply reporting them to dc WHY, which they 581 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 7: have a very good website with the reporting tool, is enough. 582 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 2: But DCY is being proactice. 583 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 7: They are watching social media, they're watching how Toledo is 584 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 7: being viewed across the nation, and they are seeing some 585 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 7: of these. 586 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 2: Videos and going to investigate themselves. 587 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 7: And I applaud them for being proactive because they knew 588 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 7: the legislature is going to be coming to call them 589 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 7: to task on what they are doing to south this issue. 590 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 7: Unlike Minnesota, we are controlled by Republicans. 591 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 2: Here, we are. 592 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 7: We're not concerned that Columbus is Democrat controlled itself. All 593 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 7: of our major metropolitan cities are Democrat controlled, and they 594 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 7: got this blue bubble of corruption in fraud. I mean, 595 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 7: just go and look at the mayor's financial report and 596 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 7: look how many daycare centers donated to him in his 597 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:37,959 Speaker 7: last election. 598 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 2: And right yeah, ganther, and look at. 599 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 7: Our state representatives that represent that district. We're looking through 600 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 7: their financial reports right now, and look how many john 601 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 7: Does are donating to them, or people donating thousands of 602 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 7: dollars and not putting down their employment or their addresses. 603 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 7: And dozens of daycares that are listed in investigation have 604 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 7: donated to members of the Democrat Party within the city 605 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 7: of Columbus. So it's our job as Republicans and control 606 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 7: of our state to crack down on these blue cities 607 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 7: that are simply you know, they have their hands out 608 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 7: for state dollars, but they don't want responsibility when the 609 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 7: fraud appears. So we're going to crack down, and we're 610 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 7: going to crack down hard. 611 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: All right, Well, Josh Williams, we're gonna have to leave 612 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: it right there. You're also a candidate for Congress in 613 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,959 Speaker 1: Ohio's ninth district, and so I read a little bit 614 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: about your personal story earlier today. You're an absolute inspiration 615 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: and keep up the great work, my friend. I appreciate 616 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: what you're doing. We're going to be watching from here 617 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati and the good Lord Willing. I hope we 618 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: get a chance to call on you in the future. 619 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 2: Thank you, guys, Thank you for reporting on this one. 620 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: All right, thanks for representing Williams. Josh Williams. And the 621 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: first time we've had that guy on. I like him 622 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: a lot. Time for a little traffic and weather together 623 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW seven hundred WLW four eleven, Save 624 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: your Basketball coming up at the bottom of the hour. 625 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: It's the Eddian Rockey Show, Dan Carroll, Jason Williams sitting 626 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: in for Eddie and Rock and we just had Josh 627 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: Williams on State Lawmaker and I like that guy. First 628 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: time I've had him on the air like that one. 629 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: He has coined a term, and I don't know if 630 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: I've heard this before, but he talked about the cities 631 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: in Ohio the blue the blue surrounded by the blue 632 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: bubble of corruption. 633 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 3: They got to say, you got to say, I kind 634 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 3: of like that. Yes, it's the blue bubble. Of corruption. 635 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 3: It's like a political ad. 636 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: Phone lines are open five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, 637 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: eight hundred, the big one. If you want to say 638 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: something as we head into the new year, and I 639 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: got something I want to say, but let's let's go 640 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: ahead and get this out of the way. Dick from 641 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: Dating your last chance to be on the air of 642 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five on seven hundred WLW. 643 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 3: Happy new Year to you, buddy, I we knew your Dan. 644 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 6: Happy new year, Jason. That's been Yeah, it's been good year. 645 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 3: You know. 646 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 6: I'm waiting for. 647 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 8: Ohio State and with that game tonight, something about huh, 648 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 8: big game tonight, big game tonight. But you know what, 649 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 8: thought the Bengals off. 650 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 6: But they've got a chance. 651 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 8: They might have that four game streak. 652 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 2: They have a pretty good record. 653 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: You know, well, it's still not making the playoffs. Maybe 654 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 1: get some momentum going into next year. Who knows, But Dick, 655 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 1: give me one thing you hope for in twenty twenty six. 656 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 3: Hope for in twenty six? 657 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 8: Yeah, I want the Bengals to go to the super Bowl. 658 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: There you go, that's a good thing to go for. 659 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: Dick from Dayton, all the best to you. We'll be 660 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: talking to you again in twenty twenty six, my friend. 661 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 3: Okay, you happy New Year. So there you go. 662 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: Dick from Dayton weighing in on what he wants for 663 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. Let me tell you something that I 664 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: want for twenty on this. So and I've been thinking 665 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: about this, let me tell you for the last three 666 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: days and and just it's a it's a thing that 667 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 1: bugs me and I am ready for it to end. 668 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: So I don't know if on social media. I'm on 669 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 1: X and so I get up, I look through my 670 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: ex you know, I see stuff that people are posting 671 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: out there, and it helps kind of generate shows, you know, 672 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: ideas for the show and stuff like that. I don't 673 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: take something I see on X and then take it 674 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: to the air. It gives me. I go and research 675 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: it and look it up and make sure because look, 676 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of that. 677 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 4: Yes. 678 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: So anyway, if if you're looking at social media, how 679 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: many times have you seen these things? Oh, here's a 680 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 1: list of of fifty cities. 681 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 3: How many have you been to? 682 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: Or have you ever and here's a list of things 683 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,280 Speaker 1: you know, have you ever you know used the rotary 684 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,240 Speaker 1: phone or have you you know ever used a floppy 685 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: disk or have you used a manual typewriter? I mean, 686 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: he's got a list like that. I'm tired of seeing 687 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: that stuff. But do you get you know, or they 688 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: say there's no girls name that starts with A and 689 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: ends with a. I mean, how stupid is that? I 690 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 1: saw That's funny. I saw one. That stuff needs to 691 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: go away. I want all that kind of stuff go on. 692 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: I don't want to that's all. 693 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 3: I agree. That's what you know. What I'm with you, 694 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 3: Dan Carroll, that stuff get rid of it? Because I 695 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 3: saw one. It was was it this morning or yesterday? What? 696 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 3: What's the the state that starts with a vow and 697 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 3: ends with a different vow? And like then the gal 698 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 3: goes through it and she's like saying, I'm like, what 699 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,720 Speaker 3: is this? Iowa? That's it. That's that's that's the answer. 700 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 3: But she has to go through and it's all it's 701 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 3: all made up and it I know, but it's on 702 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 3: my feet. I don't follow these people. It's a waste 703 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 3: of time. 704 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: There's a lot of that. I don't I mean, I 705 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: don't stop on that stuff anymore. I scrolled right through it. 706 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: But are we that lazy that it's too much effort 707 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: to scroll past something like that. 708 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 3: Is that your number one wish for twenty twenty It's 709 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 3: just startage. It's just something that bothers me that I 710 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,879 Speaker 3: don't want to see anymore. So that's when I will. 711 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: If you're listening to us right now, pick up the 712 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: phone five one, three, seven, four nine, seven thousand, one, 713 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: eight hundred, the big one. What do you want to 714 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,439 Speaker 1: what do you want to see in twenty twenty six? 715 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: Or what do you want to go away in twenty 716 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: twenty six? You got anything else? No, I don't have anything. 717 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't have anything. You don't have any wishes 718 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 3: for the new year. 719 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: This is it, man, This is your last is my 720 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: chance of twenty twenty five? And we got Xavier basketball 721 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: coming up at the bottom of the hour. I'll tell 722 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 1: you what you know you don't want to say for 723 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: the new year is well, you know what I don't 724 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: want to know. Hold on to that thought and let's 725 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: talk to Ed in Western Hills ed seven hundred WLWLL. 726 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,760 Speaker 3: Hillary for Prison twenty twenty six. 727 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: Boom click, That dropped the mic. That one has been 728 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: a long time coming, my friend. That was a T 729 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: shirt at one point wasn't it that was a T 730 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: shirt at one point? Wasn't it that one's a I 731 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: think you know, people said that that probably goes back 732 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: to what swenty sixteen A decade. Yeah, I mean we're 733 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,919 Speaker 1: on our second and third edition of that T shirt now, 734 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:05,760 Speaker 1: Eddie and Columbus seven hundred. 735 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 3: W W how's it going, Eddie? 736 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 6: Fantastic, gentlemen. I want to see a thorough investigation of 737 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 6: the waste fraud and abuse in Ohio, and I'd like 738 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 6: to see less of my president on social media. 739 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: Eddie, thank you very much for that. You know what 740 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 1: that's that's I think that's a pretty good idea. Yeah, 741 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 1: a little bit, but I look a little bit less 742 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: of Trump putting out some of the because I mean 743 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 1: it's so many times he puts stuff out there that 744 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: is really such an unforced air and it's and stuff 745 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,959 Speaker 1: that doesn't really serve him all that Well. 746 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 3: Well, the thing he said about Rob Reiner, you know 747 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 3: and his wife, Yeah, don't say anything, right, Like why 748 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 3: you say anything? Rob? I mean Rob Reiner said a 749 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,320 Speaker 3: lot a lot of he did worse stuff about Trump. 750 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 3: He did, but it's like, yeah, you know, he didn't 751 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 3: he didn't need to dude, what are you doing? Yeah, like, yeah, 752 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 3: you're I mean unforced. There is a good, good phrase 753 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 3: for it. 754 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: Maybe he should uh maybe, you know, maybe get someone 755 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: in there to sort of be a second set of 756 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: eyeballs on those before you send them out. 757 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 3: That's a good idea. I'm saying, you're looking over here 758 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 3: at me. That's a great idea. 759 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 2: Job. 760 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 3: Would you have the temperament for a job like that? 761 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 2: Uh? 762 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 3: No, I don't. I don't have the temperament for a 763 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 3: lot of things. 764 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: Randy and Hamilton seven hundred w l W Happy New Year, 765 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: Happy New Year? 766 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 3: What's up, Brandy? 767 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 4: Brandy, not much. 768 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 6: I'm just a long time pan of you guys, and 769 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 6: I just want to wish I got New Year and. 770 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 3: Ye got big plans for. 771 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 4: No, I'm just fall asleep. 772 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 3: There you go. 773 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 1: I'm with you on that, Randy. What's how does that 774 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:01,320 Speaker 1: football game start? 775 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 2: That? 776 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,439 Speaker 3: Randy? Thank you very much for the call. What times 777 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 3: on football game? Kickoff? 778 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 2: Oh? 779 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 3: I'll look it up. 780 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: Look it up, because that might go until I mean 781 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: if it starts at eight, that might go till after 782 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 1: eleven o'clock. It's so that could go you know, ten 783 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 1: thirty eleven ish. Yeah, it could we'll see a big 784 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: New Year's celebrator, Dan. You know what we the last 785 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: few years, we've we've gone out and done a couple 786 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: of things. But I think this year we're gonna we're 787 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: gonna dial it back a little bit. 788 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 3: I'm not big. I've never been a big New Year celebrator. 789 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:34,760 Speaker 3: I'm gonna just another day. 790 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,240 Speaker 1: Gonna watch the watch the football game, maybe a bottle 791 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: of champagne at midnight. Bill and Coleraine Township seven hundred WLW. 792 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: Then we got Danny and Columbus. 793 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 794 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 3: Sure, Happy New Year Year, Happy New Year, Happy New Year. 795 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: Bill. What what do you hope for the new year? 796 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 1: What do you want to see go away in twenty 797 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:51,879 Speaker 1: twenty six? 798 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 8: I want to see Terry Coles football CONTI bear catch. 799 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: Well he's uh is he still on the Michigan staff? 800 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 3: I think knew they did the new coach keep him 801 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 3: or no? 802 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 8: Because that thing he did not he did not is 803 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 8: what I'm told he did not what him so he 804 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 8: did not stay with Michigan. 805 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:17,479 Speaker 3: Wow. 806 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, all right, Well, Bill, thank you very much. 807 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 1: I mean, think about that, your Kerry Combs. If they 808 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:25,800 Speaker 1: announced you're going to go up there, you're going to 809 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: be the special teams coordinator. 810 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 3: Hopefully I hadn't sold his house here yet. 811 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 1: And then the next day this stuff comes out about 812 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 1: the the head coach up there. I mean, man, that's 813 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 1: I mean that you talk about upside down? 814 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 2: What a mess. 815 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 3: I like the guy that got as their coach. I'm 816 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 3: not a Michigan fan. Kyle whittinghams that the guy's a 817 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 3: good coach. Cherry Combs is fantastic, though. We we love 818 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 3: carry Combs here in Cincinnati, Columbus seven hundred WLW. What 819 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 3: do you want to see for the new year or 820 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 3: what do you want to go away? 821 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 8: As an elementary school teacher, I want six seven to 822 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 8: go away for the rest of my life. 823 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 3: Oh preach it, brother, I preach it. 824 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 8: Danny And I. 825 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 5: Told my students I was born in nineteen sixty seven 826 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 5: and the only thing. 827 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 3: I've prad Oh man, his phone cut out. Hey, I 828 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 3: will carry I will carry the torch on for Danny 829 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 3: on see. Yes, that is exactly what I want to 830 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 3: see go away. It's I mean, my kids in the 831 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 3: middle of a hitting a baseball hitting thing the other 832 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 3: day with this guy, and the guy was like, you know, 833 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,240 Speaker 3: try to get it to six or seven line drives 834 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 3: in a row and my kids stops and he like 835 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 3: does the whole like hand balance thing. That's that's part 836 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 3: of it. Like where kids will go, you know, six seven, 837 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,359 Speaker 3: like they're juggling something, and I am like anytime they 838 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 3: hear six seven, hey, six or seven, you know, I 839 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 3: need you. I need you to be here in six 840 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 3: or seven minutes. Oh six seven, all right, thanks Danny, 841 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 3: Tom and Amelia. Very quickly. What do you want to 842 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 3: see go away in the new year? 843 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 4: All right, real quick. 844 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 7: I like to see the rags and fingals and their 845 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 7: fraudulent ownerships both go away. 846 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 1: Well, well, I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon. 847 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 1: But with that we are out of here. Jason, Happy 848 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: New Year to you, Joe, thanks for running the big board. 849 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 1: Happy new Year to you. Happy new Year to everyone listening. 850 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 1: But up next is Musketeers basketball on the hull of 851 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,800 Speaker 1: the Muskies seven hundred W l W