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Speaker 4: Two minutes and twenty eight seconds past the hour, three

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Speaker 2: Before the snap right, all start by the center. It's

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Speaker 5: It started down, Yes, three and a half hours, three

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Speaker 3: Did I start too soon? All start? Maybe I started?

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Speaker 3: This is a little too early today? Is that possible?

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Speaker 5: I thought of could I get him to do that?

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Speaker 5: This is like five times in a row. But then

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Speaker 5: you sure?

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Speaker 3: I did three of them. That's enough. That's close enough.

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Speaker 5: We'll hear more later. That's the beauty shadowing. That's guardsy.

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Speaker 5: The producer of the show.

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Speaker 4: My name is Dan Barrero, former Ringsteine Ratch newspaper of

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Speaker 4: the Twin Cities and host of What We Like To

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Speaker 4: affectionately refer to occasionally as the afternoon ardvark On.

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Speaker 3: What is I guess the last cold day we're gonna

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Speaker 4: I think we're back in the fifties the rest of

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Speaker 3: My, oh my.

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Speaker 4: Last week we were celebrating singing the Candyman song, reminding

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Speaker 4: us of the just the beautiful lyrics of that tune.

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Speaker 4: Who can take a sunrise, sprinkle it with dew, cover

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Speaker 4: it with chocolate, and a miracle or two? The Candyman can.

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Speaker 4: He mixes it with love and makes the world taste good.

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Speaker 4: The world tasted the football world tasted so scrumptious a

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Speaker 3: Sounded better a week ago, did it not?

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Speaker 4: Bo We come to find out the Candyman has a

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Speaker 4: reminded of the yin of it. No, I guess it'll

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Speaker 4: be the yang of it. The yen was last week.

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Speaker 4: This is the yang that reminds us of the startling

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Speaker 4: contrasts in football emotions. For your average sports room, in

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Speaker 4: this case, your average Vikings fan, it didn't go very

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Speaker 4: well after a promising start. Maybe that added to the

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Speaker 4: cruelty for your favorite football team. Twenty seven to nineteen

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Speaker 4: ultimately was the final score, and I guess it's fair

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Speaker 4: to say I probably owe a lot of the national

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Speaker 4: the upset of the century. I had Blake Moore look

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Speaker 4: out of like I don't know, thirty or forty predictors,

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Speaker 4: we found literally one that picked the Vikings. And I thought,

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Speaker 4: I get it. The quarterbacks back for Baltimore. They're good,

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Speaker 4: but they they'd beaten the Bears and the Dolphins, and

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Speaker 4: I said, I just don't believe this would should have

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Speaker 4: basis of what we saw I don't exactly know, because

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Speaker 4: most of those pundits turned out to be one hundred

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Speaker 4: been brutal, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Brutal, and.

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Speaker 4: I We've got a lot of good Vikings talking points

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Speaker 4: to get to today. Guards he's put together some other

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Speaker 4: from their thrifty traveler, Kyle Potter.

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Speaker 3: By the offense number seventy five. There it is.

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Speaker 4: And so we are going to deviate a little bit.

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Speaker 4: It's scheduled to join us at five point thirty. I

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Speaker 4: think I've asked you this before, and I don't know

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Speaker 4: if you've ever settled it. Do we have any ping

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Speaker 5: Ping pong tables out. Oh take them out, take them out? Oh,

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Speaker 5: maybe bring them in? No, no, no, no, I'm assuming

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Speaker 5: sure we got Papa shot baskets there. I'm guessing every

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Speaker 5: possible toy fun game that any you know program could have,

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Speaker 5: any the National Football League team would have, we've got

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Speaker 4: I think we need to rip them all out of

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Speaker 4: We're sitting here under We're two games behind the Bears.

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Speaker 3: He makes no sense.

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Speaker 4: And now for the second week seven, second time in

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Speaker 3: We're back to must win, right. You can't lose to

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Speaker 4: No, now loose the Bears at home, then you're two

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Speaker 4: games under five hundred, going on the road to what

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Speaker 4: is it next? Seattle in Green Bay? Green Bay, then

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Speaker 4: You know, Baltimore looked Baltimore to me, the first half

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Speaker 4: I think the Ravens were ready to be beaten. And

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Speaker 3: We're down one.

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Speaker 4: We take care of business on this first drive, and

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Speaker 4: the damn thing. They're gonna make it that available to

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Speaker 4: And sure enough, second half, the Ravens took care of business.

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Speaker 4: I think one step closer to the reality, the realization

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Speaker 3: To be one of these cute little clubs that.

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Speaker 4: Surprises people one week to the good and then turns

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Speaker 3: Have we won any games at home this year?

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Speaker 5: We beat Cincinnati, Oh, that's right because of the nine

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Speaker 3: That's it. But that's it.

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Speaker 5: We lost to Atlanta, we lost to Philly, and yesterday

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Speaker 5: we lost to the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's not going to get it done, is it. No,

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Speaker 3: not with our road schedule, that's for sure.

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Speaker 4: Whether Falness hasn't has among his aliases that Peter Popsicle.

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Speaker 3: Is one of them?

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Speaker 4: Is it possible that that Falless has an alias called

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Speaker 4: Peter Popsicle? Very possible because Peter Popsicle claims he's in disbelief.

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Speaker 4: The surging Wild win two in a row, including a

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Speaker 4: shutout last night. Yeah, and Dan starts the show talking

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Speaker 4: about the last place Vikings No famous moments.

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Speaker 3: Enough kick gas offense.

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Speaker 7: Minnesota three or four on third down, third and eight

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Speaker 7: from the Ravens thirty one, Hockinson in motion to the

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Speaker 7: right of McCarthy. Three receivers right, one left, snap play stoppage.

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Speaker 7: It's play Brandell in his sixth star, make that his

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Speaker 7: with the football before the snap.

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Speaker 8: gas offense.

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Speaker 6: Six five.

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Speaker 4: One guy asks, why is the Bears game a must

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Speaker 4: win to accomplish what exactly?

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Speaker 3: That's a fair question.

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Speaker 4: Maybe implicit in the question, he's saying, why are you

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Speaker 4: you've meandered the way the Vikings have meandered this year.

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Speaker 4: I'm going under the assumption that the Vikings internally still

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Speaker 4: But the alter ego, to be honest, the yeah, because

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Speaker 3: And you know, he even said it.

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Speaker 4: He has to fight through the physicality a lot better

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Speaker 3: No famous moments. Spin up a gas offense.

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Speaker 7: Straight i Ahaid McCarthy, c J Hammond in front of

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Speaker 7: Down, two fists of the moving company with fall starts

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Speaker 4: It's a very cool game, the game of professional football.

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Speaker 4: A week ago you were chatting with the next guest

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Speaker 4: as he does every week.

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Speaker 3: Thanks again for the time, sir. Where do we begin?

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Speaker 4: I guess eight fallse starts has got to be. That

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Speaker 6: unscouted look, and and the and the quarterbacks got to

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Speaker 6: kind of hold the can or the kill to the

440
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Speaker 6: next play a little bit longer. When when those those guys,

441
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 6: the big guys are in their stance and for a

442
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 6: long period of time, it makes it tough on them.

443
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 6: So I think, uh, there's there's really no one particular

444
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 6: area to blame. I think it's just you know, sometimes

445
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 6: it's just focus, right, Sometimes it's just you're tired, You're

446
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 6: you're thinking about maybe two plays in your head. There's

447
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 6: a lot going on. Uh, you just had a big play,

448
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 6: So there's momentum, there's there's a little bit of crowd noise,

449
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 6: there's there's so many factors that lead into it, and

450
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 6: at the end of the day, you got to work

451
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 6: on all of them, right. I think I think coach

452
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 6: did a great job, and I'm not gonna get in

453
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,239
Speaker 6: the exact details, but he kind of went over like

454
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 6: five different steps of like, okay, yes, like could the

455
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 6: quarterback do a better job of being quicker with the

456
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 6: cans and the kills and and those things, Yeah, for sure,

457
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 6: And we do a better job of focusing and understanding

458
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 6: the plan and understanding when we're gonna can versus different

459
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 6: different looks. You know, there's kind of a five six

460
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 6: steps that it's going to take to really clean that up.

461
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 6: And sometimes it's just it's just somebody, you know, again,

462
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 6: being tired and not focused on the snap count and

463
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 6: you have a brain part. You know, that happens too,

464
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Speaker 6: But unfortunately we happened in a lot of different cases,

465
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 6: by a lot of different groups, so that can't happen.

466
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Speaker 6: I viewed.

467
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Speaker 4: I want I'm curious to get your opinion on this.

468
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 4: I thought the game, from your guys perspective, was lost

469
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 4: in the first half. I thought, obviously the first drive

470
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 4: was terrific. After three and out for them, they to me,

471
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 4: didn't look really I didn't think Lamar looked particularly dynamic

472
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 4: through the early part of the game. Their run game

473
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 4: that I thought your defense was doing a pretty good job.

474
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 4: And yet I look up at the scoreboard after that

475
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 4: late gift and a halftime, it's ten to nine.

476
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 3: You're still ahead, but it's one.

477
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Speaker 4: It felt to me like, you know, how this game goes,

478
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 4: you sort of have to get it going, take advantage

479
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 4: when a game is going your way. And I thought,

480
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 4: you know, I felt, on the basis of what i'd seen,

481
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 4: you guys should have been up ten at the half,

482
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 4: and who knows what happens at that point because there's

483
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 4: still another half to play, but it felt like you

484
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 4: should have been further ahead by halftime.

485
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Speaker 3: What did you see? What did you think?

486
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Speaker 6: Yeah? I feel like that's what makes games like that

487
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 6: even more frustrating. On Monday, made you feel like, there's

488
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 6: so many opportunities. Our defense played absolutely fantastic and really

489
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 6: give us a lot of great opportunities. And when they're

490
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 6: playing that good and against a really good offense and

491
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 6: a and an MVP quarterback in the past, you you

492
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 6: got to take advantage of it. And I feel I

493
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 6: understand where you're coming from where you kind of feel like, man,

494
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 6: that was a rough first half. But but again, you

495
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 6: go into a locker room and you're at one point, yeah,

496
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 6: you know, you're you're winning the football game. Even if

497
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 6: you're tied after that half, you're you're you're probably looking

498
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 6: at it as a group and being like, we didn't

499
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 6: play our best football. We kind of handed them a

500
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 6: lot of things, and we're still leading or tied, right

501
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 6: and so you have to take advantage of that as well.

502
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 6: But uh, this game is a crazy game, and momentum

503
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 6: can be tough. It can be tough to reattain. And

504
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 6: when you get momentum, I think we talked about it

505
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 6: after the win last week, it's like you got to

506
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 6: arrive this momentum and really take advantage of it and

507
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 6: keep it going. Otherwise, once it turns the other way,

508
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 6: it's tough to get it back. So we got to

509
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 6: find a way to turn the tide and find the

510
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 6: momentum and stick with it and be consistent, which is

511
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 6: a bet on biggest problem as a team uh so

512
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,959
Speaker 6: far this year, just consistently putting on the stuff, putting

513
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 6: on tape. Who we are as an offense, as the defense,

514
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 6: social teams, as a as a team as a whole.

515
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 6: So we got to find that consistency.

516
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 4: The You know, Justin had a number of interesting things

517
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 4: to say after the game, including a belief that he

518
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 4: needed to do more. He needed to help out the

519
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 4: young quarterback more, he needed to fight through some of

520
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 4: the physicality of the u of of the Ravens defensive

521
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 4: backs and that it felt from Afar as if they

522
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,479
Speaker 4: were stretches. There were some times where he was he

523
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 4: was frustrated. Now you know this better than most that

524
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 4: a lot of the coverage generally is going to be

525
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 4: sent his way. So can you speak to that a

526
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 4: little bit. What did you see from from JJ? I

527
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 4: think he thought. I certainly thought the pass right around

528
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 4: the end zone was catchable and one that he usually

529
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 4: is going to catch. I thought that was a pretty

530
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 4: damn good throw. Actually, by by by your quarterback, JJ McCarthy,

531
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 4: What did you see from him and are there times

532
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 4: where he, like even with his star status, needs to

533
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 4: fight through some of that some of that frustration.

534
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll say this is certain. It is frustration is

535
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 6: part of this game and what makes it so great.

536
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 6: You know, it's hard to have success, to sustain success, success,

537
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 6: to have it every quarter, every half, or every game.

538
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 6: It's it's hard to do. And as a competitor, as

539
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 6: a perfectionist, which a lot of us are, to be

540
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 6: able to get to this point, it can be frustrating

541
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 6: at times. And not to say that that that means

542
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 6: that you should be frustrated, but it's going to happen,

543
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 6: and and it's part of the game. So you have

544
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 6: to as a as a player, and he knows that

545
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 6: you have to find a way to handle that frustration

546
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 6: and use it to motivate you and to drive you

547
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 6: to get back out there and and and be at

548
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 6: your best in the next next play. But I will

549
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 6: say that that guy's a phenomenal leader and a lot

550
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 6: of trust and faith in that locker room of him

551
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 6: as a leader, not just as a star football players.

552
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 6: So he is one of the most accountable people that

553
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 6: I've ever been around. He takes accountability and the next

554
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 6: week he figures it out and he finds a way

555
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 6: to be better. So thankful for him to be part

556
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 6: of our team. And I know that the quarterback room

557
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 6: and the play guard has the most confidence in the

558
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 6: world with that guy, so excited to see what he

559
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 6: does next week.

560
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 3: You know it has to be.

561
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 4: It's the interesting One of the interesting I think elements

562
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 4: of this season is that this team, you could argue

563
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 4: on the basis of a lot of the moves that

564
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 4: were made in the offseason and coming off the fourteen

565
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 4: and three season last.

566
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 3: Year, one wants still wants, obviously.

567
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 4: To make another run or be in the middle of

568
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 4: the playoff race, et cetera.

569
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 3: And yet you're trying to do it with a young QB.

570
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 4: And you look at any of these quarterbacks, they need time, right,

571
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 4: I mean most of them. There's a rare exception where

572
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 4: a guy walks in and is brilliant from the very

573
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,239
Speaker 4: first game, but generally there's going to be there's going

574
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 4: to be downs. And that's part of what I guess

575
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 4: all of you guys have to deal with, is that

576
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 4: if you can thread the needle of still trying to

577
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 4: win games stay vital this season, and yet still give

578
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 4: JJ the opportunity to be patient with him regarding, like

579
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,239
Speaker 4: we say, some we saw in this game. There were

580
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 4: some great throws he made, especially early, and then there

581
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 4: were some where he was not very accurate. That's the

582
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 4: challenge this year, right, because often, as you know, when

583
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 4: young quarterbacks are thrown in there, they're thrown into teams

584
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 4: that aren't very good, right, and there's no expectation. So

585
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 4: to me, he's facing significant expectations immediately, just because everybody's

586
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 4: spoiled in the organization by what the team did as

587
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 4: recently as last year.

588
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure. And I think that's the way that

589
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 6: they built this team. They built it to be able

590
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 6: to handle that, right, to be able to put a

591
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 6: lot of veterans, a lot of skill guys offensive line,

592
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 6: a phenomenal defense, a special teams unit that we have

593
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 6: a lot of faith and trust him that's going to

594
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 6: give us great field position. And so that's why this

595
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 6: team was built the way it was. And so we

596
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 6: all have to do our part to take pressure off

597
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 6: a young guy who's battling his butt off and as

598
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 6: tough as it gets he's a gamer, and we have

599
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 6: a lot of beliefs in faith with him. But we

600
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 6: all have to do our job and not do more

601
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 6: than our job, right. I think a lot of times

602
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 6: when things aren't going our way as an offense, I

603
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 6: think there's a tendency to want to do more and

604
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 6: to go maybe try to make a play and go

605
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 6: out of just doing your job. And it always, it

606
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 6: always is happening. You know. I'm thirteen, thirteenth year in

607
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 6: this league, and I've been there right that where you

608
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 6: just try to do too much and you kind of

609
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,239
Speaker 6: go out of out of the confinement of the of

610
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 6: the playbook or or of the play that's called. And

611
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 6: I think we all need to just focus on just

612
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 6: doing our job. And I think when you do that

613
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 6: and you have a young guy confidence, especially a guy

614
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 6: like JJ who who is, like I said, he's a

615
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 6: gamer and he's got a lot of confidence himself. When

616
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 6: you kind of just do the little things and and

617
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 6: you get you make some plays for him, I think

618
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 6: his confidence just goes through the roof and really plays

619
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 6: at a high level. So at the end of the day,

620
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 6: it's it's about the guys around him to be able

621
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 6: to do their job to really allow him to go

622
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 6: through some of those growing pains, but also to be

623
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 6: at the best.

624
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 4: All right, So you had one very animated session where

625
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 4: I think in your case, it ended up being a

626
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 4: penalty that was declined that you did not believe was

627
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 4: a penalty at all. Tell me what happened on that play,

628
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 4: because on the on the TV they ultimately went to

629
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 4: the you know, their officiating guy. I think it was Pereira,

630
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 4: wasn't it, I think in this case, and he said

631
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 4: he believed it was the right call. Do you do

632
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 4: you feel any differently about it or any less animated

633
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 4: about it than you did during the game.

634
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, it

635
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 6: didn't matter because we didn't replete the past, so I

636
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 6: probably shouldn't have been an animated as I was. But

637
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 6: I think it's just frustrating as a player when you

638
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 6: kind of when the rest kind of take a rule

639
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 6: that that and they kind of you don't necessarily understand

640
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 6: the football side of it. You know, it's kind of

641
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 6: like a technicality of the rule. But if you really

642
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 6: just understand football and you watch that play knowing the

643
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 6: fact that I didn't go in there and try to

644
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 6: kill the guy, which I which I very easily could have.

645
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 6: You know, that was a design play. I was supposed

646
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 6: to go. If he's within a yard a line of scrimmage,

647
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 6: I can go and pick him or or hit him

648
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 6: and to take him off his man player. And it's

649
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 6: a man play that that we have designed, right, And

650
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 6: so I felt like I did everything to the playbook

651
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 6: or to the rule book, and I didn't initiate contact.

652
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 6: I waited for him to come to me and and

653
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 6: stopped him right there. And I think it was a

654
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 6: little bit dramatic of you know, because he didn't see

655
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 6: me that he kind of felt the way he did

656
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 6: and it probably looked worse than it was. But again,

657
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 6: I think the frustrating thing as a player is sometimes

658
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 6: as you these refs don't really understand football, and like

659
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 6: you're not if he knew, if he really understood football

660
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 6: and what that's like, I could have I could have

661
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 6: cleaned him out, and I didn't, So it shouldn't have

662
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 6: been a flag. But at the end of the day,

663
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 6: you can't get animated about that. You know it is

664
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 6: what it is, and got to move on to the

665
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 6: next one. Did you try to I think the frustrations

666
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 6: of the game that kind of happened.

667
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 3: Gotcha sorry about that, did you?

668
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if there's ever a chance

669
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 4: after a game, if refs are off the field fast.

670
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 4: I know it's probably not at the top of the

671
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 4: list of things you're gonna do. But do you ever

672
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 4: have conversations after or have the opportunity to to you know,

673
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 4: out of the heat of the moment, to talk to

674
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 4: to refs where they say, all right, let's you know,

675
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 4: maybe we'll reconsider that, or maybe I misinterpreted that, or

676
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 4: maybe you got you had a point or whatever.

677
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 3: Does that ever happen with you?

678
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, I was able to go up to match

679
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 6: the game and apologize for you know, being uh, you know,

680
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,919
Speaker 6: yelling at him on the on the field like that.

681
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 6: But I just kind of just apologized and and said,

682
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 6: you know, I felt like I didn't you know, hit

683
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 6: him with the excessive force. You know, I guess the

684
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 6: blindside block, and the rule book is within a yard

685
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 6: line scrimmage, you can you can pick that guy. And

686
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 6: so he kind of said, yeah, you know, I'm gonna

687
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 6: we're gonna get more clarification on that rule because I

688
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 6: don't know, if we handle that perfect way, and maybe

689
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 6: and maybe they did. Maybe that's that's just how they

690
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 6: want it called, and and that's fine. Uh. I think

691
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 6: it's just getting that clarification. But you know, at the

692
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 6: end of the day, I can't I can't lose my

693
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 6: cool on a ref like they're They're trying to do

694
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 6: their job as well. But again there's that kind of

695
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 6: that frustration of of you know, really understanding what what

696
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 6: the game looks like and when something is really should

697
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 6: be called and shouldn't. But those guys do a great

698
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 6: job of of, you know, being hard on themselves. They

699
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 6: get they get graded out, and they look at every

700
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 6: single one of those players as rest as well. So

701
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 6: we'll see what they say as far as the clarification

702
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 6: on that.

703
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 4: As you know, there is no time to wallow. You've

704
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 4: got a game again Sunday and it's a division game

705
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 4: and don't look now, but the Bears are sitting there

706
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 4: at six and three this season under their first year

707
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 4: coach Ben Johnson. They've shown think've had they have four

708
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 4: final minute come from behind drives to win games, so

709
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 4: something different is going on there. They've not played the

710
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 4: greatest schedule early, but they've won the game. So you guys, again,

711
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if you think of it

712
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 4: this way, but you're back under five hundred and four

713
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 4: and five, you're about to go on a couple of

714
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 4: games road trip afterwards, so it must wins are maybe

715
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 4: the wrong way to talk about it, but this is

716
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 4: a pretty damn big game on Sunday?

717
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 3: Is it not for your fortunes?

718
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 6: Yeah? I mean I feel like in this league every

719
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 6: win is the must win, and it feels that way

720
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 6: on Mondays, right, And whether you win or lose, it

721
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 6: feels like, man, either you kind of get the sigh relief, okay,

722
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 6: we got the dub or you have this like ache

723
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 6: in you that you just want to get back out

724
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 6: there and and you know it's tough to lose games

725
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 6: this league. But yeah, I say that. All say it's like, yeah,

726
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 6: it's a huge game. We're excited to get back at home.

727
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 6: We haven't played particularly well at home and our record's

728
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 6: not great, so we're excited to get back in front

729
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 6: of our fans back on Sunday and just just show

730
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 6: them what we really are about. You know, we got

731
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 6: to go and prove that we can't just talk about

732
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 6: oh we got this fixed, or we got this covered,

733
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 6: or if we could have just done this better, we

734
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 6: have to go out there and prove that. So just

735
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 6: trying to get to Sunday, you know, and prepare in

736
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 6: a way that that helps us to go and execute.

737
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 6: I think when you have games like you had on Sunday,

738
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 6: it makes you realize how important that preparation is and

739
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 6: how walked in you got to be in every single

740
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 6: you know, rep, whether it's a walk through, a jogged through,

741
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 6: or a live, full speed rep against the scout team,

742
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 6: like how important those reps are. And sometimes you get

743
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 6: in the monotony of the season and you kind of

744
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 6: just go through the motions and you're not trying to

745
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 6: but that's just kind of how it happens. And losses

746
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 6: like that make you realize, like, like you got to

747
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 6: really take advantage of every single opportunity you have leading

748
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 6: up for preparation because then those things don't happen when

749
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 6: you prepare the right way. So that's what our focus is.

750
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 6: And like I said, are excited to get back at

751
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 6: us Bank, but it's it's definitely not going to be

752
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 6: a walk in the park. It's a really good football team.

753
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 6: Who's only getting better, especially since the first time we

754
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 6: play them, they've gotten a heck of a lot better

755
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 6: under a new coaching staff. So we'll be a great

756
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 6: test for us and we'll see what we're made of.

757
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 3: Thank you, Adam. We'll chat next week. Appreciate it all right,

758
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 3: Thank you.

759
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 4: Adam Feelin is the Vikings wide receiver who joins us

760
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 4: weekly during the uneven as he even is willing to

761
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 4: admit and fading the obvious twenty twenty five football season

762
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 4: for your Minnesota Vikings Brashawn Brian Kafan text line is

763
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 4: open as it has been throughout the program at six

764
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 4: four six eighty six. We've got a lot of good

765
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 4: Vikings talking points to get to. Do you think his

766
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 4: voice was a little raspy from yelling at it might

767
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 4: have been he was he was, he was animated. I

768
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 4: I guess I had not realized that he'd apologized after,

769
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 4: which is probably a smart move, probably the judicious thing

770
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 4: to do, you know, and they maybe even you gain

771
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 4: you gain a little ground in that regard, and maybe

772
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,919
Speaker 4: you get a little bit more information. I I don't

773
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 4: know the rule well enough to know because part of

774
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 4: the debate was well that's only supposed to that's not

775
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 4: so he called when it comes from the side.

776
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 3: It's supposed to be called when.

777
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 4: You're going in the the the other direction is the

778
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 4: way the TV people put it. So even they wondered

779
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 4: before Perera got in it, that's what they wondered, because

780
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 4: this was at the end of the.

781
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 3: Line, so this was kind of going sideways. One could say.

782
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 6: Uh.

783
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 4: Pereira was was very clear that there's nothing to think

784
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 4: about here.

785
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 3: I'm going to assume he's right. I have absolutely no idea.

786
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 4: I do think I get Deland's point that it probably

787
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 4: looked worse than it was the way he went down. Yeah,

788
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 4: and in a lot of times anymore, that's what reffs

789
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 4: are responding to, right for sure, the look of oh,

790
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 4: this looks bad, This looks like a criminal act of

791
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 4: some sort that could have cleaned him Moud He said, yes,

792
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 4: like that later, which is true.

793
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 5: I don't think he tried to do that. But it's

794
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 5: interesting though that you'd even have a play that calls

795
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 5: for that that would Yeah, they can be so interpreted. Yes,

796
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 5: where Pereira says it's cutting dry feel and saying, look,

797
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 5: that's not what it was. I assume the offensive staff

798
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 5: knows what they're trying to do there. It's it's interesting.

799
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 4: Well, as he pointed out, the moral of the story is,

800
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 4: and this kind of tells the story of the game.

801
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 3: It didn't matter because we didn't convert, right.

802
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, So they they were more than willing to decline

803
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 4: the penalty because the Vikings didn't make the play when

804
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 4: they needed to make the play. That'll be part of

805
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 4: the emphasis when we come back with some Vikings talking

806
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 4: points for sure, and maybe we even get to one

807
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 4: with Johnny Athletic, who's going to join at four h two.

808
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 4: Ben Lieber is scheduled for four to forty seven, and

809
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 4: thrifty Traveler Guy Kyle Potter on the current state of

810
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 4: domestic and international air travel out of the United States

811
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 4: of America is five point thirty this evening. Even with

812
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 4: signs that there might be a breakthrough and the so

813
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 4: called lockout might end, then there's still I guess a

814
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 4: lot of bumps on the road for air travel for

815
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 4: quite some time. And he'll get into the percentages of

816
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 4: number of flights that have been postponed or canceled and

817
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 4: how long that's going to go on, and the longer

818
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 4: term ramifications of it as well, and as I mentioned,

819
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 4: we'll take a look. There's some interesting texts that have

820
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 4: come in again from the Macbobos who don't want to live.

821
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 3: In twenty twenty five reality. They just don't.

822
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 4: They and I get it because they want to root

823
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 4: for their guys so much, and they believe this is

824
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 4: going to be the guy, and they don't want to

825
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 4: listen to any sort of pushback or criticism on this

826
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 4: guy actually when.

827
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 3: He's played as little as he has.

828
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 4: But I'm going to warn them of something I told

829
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 4: them back in late August and September that they obviously

830
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 4: didn't want to believe, but that it remains, I think

831
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 4: as true today as it was when we talked about

832
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 4: it back then.

833
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 3: No famous moments en up a gas offense. First in

834
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 3: ten Minnesota.

835
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 6: He is.

836
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 3: Under center, his cadence may fall start.

837
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: Offense and B eighty five five yard penalty is first down.

838
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 7: That's the third procedure of the third fall Star penalty

839
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 7: against the Moving Company today.

840
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 3: First in fifteen, This game's about mistakes.

841
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 8: Paul join us again for another famous moment up a

842
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 8: gas offense