1 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: Quinn City's News Talk Hour three. Hey, I'm eleven thirty 2 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: one or three five FM from the sixty five to 3 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: one Carpet Next Day Install Studios. 4 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: My name is John Justice. 5 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: We are joined in studio lawyer extraordinaire Jeff O'Brien as 6 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: we work through the confusion. And it appeared to be panic, 7 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: although you know it's hard to tell based off of 8 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: the way media covers this stuff. I'm working off a 9 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: version here from the Star Tribune. In every single news outlet, 10 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: it was running with the headline yesterday, federal shutdown could 11 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: to kill Minnesota's hemp derived THHC markets. The spending bill 12 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: passed by the US Senate would essentially ban hemp based 13 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: THHC products. So this is the bill that passes center, 14 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: we'll be voted on tonight. It would effectively ban hemp 15 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: products containing more than zero point four milligrams of THHC. 16 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: This is the psychoactive ingredient in cannabis. The legal the 17 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:15,279 Speaker 1: limit with outlaw intoxicating based products in Minnesota, which allows 18 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: edibles containing up to five milligrams of THC preserving and 19 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: beverages containing ten milligrams. 20 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: And as we were laying out last hour. 21 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: It's it's worth noting that the products that we're talking 22 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: about have been legal here for those over twenty one 23 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: for quite a long time, because they're essentially derivatives coming 24 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: from hemp that don't fall under the legal classification of 25 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: recreational or even medical marijuana, your Delta eight, your Delta 26 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: nine specifically, and here in Minnesota we'd actually gone about 27 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: in regulating and making those products available for how long, actually, Jeff, do. 28 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: You know how long? 29 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: Since twenty twenty two? 30 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: So twenty twenty two, those have been a bit so 31 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: it's actually not that not that long. No, okay, I 32 00:01:58,320 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: want to get to a couple of comments here, and 33 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: then I went to finish your story regarding Mitch McConnell. 34 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: Let's go here. Oh you played that already. 35 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: I love well what the government gets when goalg and 36 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: we start dogging legal stuff. 37 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 2: All of a sudden, he fought what from being a 38 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: drug that was. 39 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: Consumed by stoners who have caught out to being authored 40 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: PC humors. Well, people have been purchasing these for for 41 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: a while now. I think the stereotype of these only 42 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: being consumed by the by the stoner crowd. From your 43 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: days to confused. Confused has kind. 44 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: Of gone out the window. 45 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know why that on somebody who was 46 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: talking about one of the issues this will cause is 47 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: that no federal regulated car carrier will transport any of 48 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: these products. 49 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: It makes these products unshippable. 50 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: Now, that happened just recently prior to this issue relating 51 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: to the bill that the Senate passed and will be 52 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 1: voted on tonight. Right, the issue of being able to 53 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: to mail these products here in Minnesota. 54 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah, under the under the change in the 55 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 3: law here in Minnesota where they were, you know, there 56 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 3: was this separate law under chapter one fifty one where 57 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 3: these products were the hemp drived THG had been governed 58 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 3: by and then moving that under three forty two, which 59 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 3: is with the cannabis law. As part of that change, 60 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 3: you are going to have to have in the hands 61 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 3: of a licensed transport acue they have a cannabis transport license. 62 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 3: So that was already going away under the Minnesota law, 63 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 3: the shipping across state lines because or shipping with a 64 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 3: national carrier, because they weren't applying for licenses to be 65 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 3: able to ship those products. 66 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: So this is this is when here in Minnesota we 67 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: ended up taking these products that were already available and 68 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: putting them under the same umbrella as the recreational marijuana 69 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: that was legalized, and therefore took away the ability to sell, 70 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: to to ship the products that were already being sold. 71 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, this with this these low potent potents see hemp 72 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 3: edible licenses. By putting all the hemp products underneath the 73 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 3: cannabis law was already going to change some some parts 74 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 3: of the of the industry here. 75 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: They did they need to do? They need to do that? 76 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: Could they have carved out just to continue to allow 77 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: the individuals that were selling the low potency ones to 78 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: continue to mail. 79 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 3: It's an ongoing discussion. You know, there's there's a lot 80 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 3: of kind of trial and error with these laws. Obviously, 81 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 3: the part of that is to eliminate the illicit market 82 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 3: and you know, start a you know, a thriving legal 83 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 3: industry and so there you know, it's it's but there's 84 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 3: a lot of pushback from the hemp industry players on 85 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 3: some of these changes over labeling and shipping and all 86 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 3: sorts of things. So we'll see where it goes. There's 87 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 3: been ongoing discussions. I know, there's continued discussions with legislators 88 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 3: about potential fixes, but this, this federal thing, was just 89 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 3: something that we really didn't need. We kind of, my view, 90 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 3: has let the states like Minnesota work it out on 91 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 3: their own. 92 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 4: Why would McConnell introduce a bill to allow this and 93 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 4: then a few years later introduce a bill to restrict it. 94 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: It makes no sense lyrics Jeff O'Brien, which is like 95 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: to tell us, sorry, oh. 96 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 3: It makes a lot of se well, not a sense, 97 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 3: but it is definitely an explanation. So Mitch McConnell is retiring, 98 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 3: and he has a my understanding, he has a library 99 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 3: at Louisville and they're looking to expand it and he 100 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 3: needs there needs to be donors to be able to 101 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 3: expand the McConnell library. And he's in Kentucky, and so 102 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 3: the bourbon industry is a large factor in Kentucky, and 103 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: they have money and they are willing to fund as 104 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 3: I was told they was there. You know, he needs 105 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 3: contributions to and he's not getting having to face voters again, 106 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 3: So what the heck, let's just shut the loophole and 107 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 3: fund that library. So that's this is the kind of 108 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 3: stuff that make people upset about politics. It's regularly federal 109 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 3: politics when you're trying to a bill to this continuing 110 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 3: resolution to reopen the government, to get the snap benefits 111 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 3: going to get federal air traffic workers back to work 112 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 3: at the federal workers back to work at. 113 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: The military paid and incomes. 114 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 3: This slipped in someplace in the bill because somebody needs 115 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 3: it for some pet project back at home. This is 116 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 3: why people get turned off by by electoral politics and 117 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 3: politicians because they do this stuff. 118 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 1: We really did bury the lead on this because this 119 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: was this was the larger issue about this whole this 120 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: whole thing. Let me play this talk back here because 121 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: it plays into what we're talking about right now in 122 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: Twin Cities News Talk with Large Shortenaar Jeff O'Brien. 123 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 5: I really wish I considered with leadership right now. I'll 124 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 5: be focused on real issues and real problems, not going 125 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 5: after gas station Delta eight and Delta nine, which is ridiculous. Yeah, 126 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 5: it sucks to hear when teenagers get a hold of 127 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 5: stuff like you know, mom and DIDs, dash of alcohol, 128 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 5: hard drugs like math and whatnots that are sold in schools, 129 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 5: and you know, you know how horrible these kids are 130 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 5: going to take Delta eight and Delta nine, have a 131 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 5: little bit of fun and go to sleep. 132 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: I want to go back to what he first said, 133 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: I wish the conservative leadership, you know, would would be 134 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: focusing on real issue and problems. But what we just 135 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: demonstrated was it wasn't necessarily conservative leadership doing that thing 136 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: with my fingers. It was one individual with one particular 137 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: pet project, with one particular interest, and a lot of 138 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: individuals that were kind of completely unaware of the impact 139 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: that it would have on a state like Minnesota that's 140 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: already been regulating these particular items. I mean, should they 141 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: be up to spin on it, Sure they should. But 142 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: at the same time, you're also talking about an issue 143 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: that I think most people weren't even aware of. 144 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: And that's the part of this whole thing that try 145 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 2: to mean that's as well. 146 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 3: Ran Paul made an attempt a couple of nights ago 147 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 3: to get this provision stripped out of the CR and McConnell, 148 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 3: you know, filed a motion to table it and it 149 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 3: got like seventy six votes, And so it's I think 150 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 3: it's more I wouldn't read too much for those that 151 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 3: are kind of ready to hit the panic button. I 152 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 3: wouldn't necessarily hit it yet. I think that there is 153 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: a push to get this thing done and get the 154 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 3: government reopened, and then there is going to be a 155 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 3: big push to revisit this, and that's the whole point 156 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: of the one year deferment is to revisit this. And 157 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: so you can definitely tell from some of the comments 158 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 3: that I've seen on X from the Republican side, they 159 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 3: are definitely feeling the heat from this. I don't think 160 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 3: they want to go into the midterms, at least I 161 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 3: hope they don't want to go into the midterms having 162 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 3: basically killed an industry. So we'll see where it goes. 163 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 3: But you know, it's again the larger issue. If they 164 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 3: would just deal with rip the band aid off and 165 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 3: deal with the cannabis rescheduling, we wouldn't be sitting over 166 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 3: here arguing over Minutia about a hembloopole. 167 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure Stoners aren't wasting their money on over 168 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 6: christ low potency THHC beverages. 169 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:27,599 Speaker 1: Well, I will tell you that you're wrong. Those businesses, 170 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: and I mentioned there's like at least three of them 171 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: within a mile of my house, they do very well 172 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 1: and people are purchasing these products. As a matter of fact, 173 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: let's go to this talkback just real quick, and then 174 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: I'll let check. 175 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 7: A couple months back, my local restaurant and my local 176 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 7: liquor store both told me that somebody from the government 177 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 7: they came here to help, had stopped in and told 178 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 7: them that Delta nine products were legal to sell. They 179 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 7: didn't take them, but they told them that they could 180 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 7: not sell them anymore. So my favorite drinks are longer available. 181 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: First off, I don't think that should be happening. No, no, 182 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: maybe they should reach out to you guys. 183 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 3: If if if if a retailer had that happen, they yeah, 184 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 3: they should contact us or reach out to UH office 185 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 3: a cannabis management because they've got some employee that doesn't 186 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 3: understand the laws. But you know, to the previous talkbacker 187 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 3: about the stoners aren't buying these products, I think her 188 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 3: point was that the the it's not people that are 189 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 3: buying these products to get stone. You know, people are 190 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: buying them from sleep aid or you know, other there's 191 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 3: other reasons. This is at the end of the day, 192 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 3: whether we're talking about hemp or cannabis, this is plant medicine. 193 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 3: Like a lot of other things. And there are people, 194 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 3: there's veterans that use full strength cannabis and sometimes these 195 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 3: these Delta nine products to deal with PTSD. There's there's 196 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 3: people that use you know, full spectrum for dealing with 197 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 3: the side effects of chemotherapy if they're if they're having 198 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 3: if they're dealing with cancer. There's reason ends why people 199 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 3: use these products, whether it be hemp or cannabis. The 200 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 3: Feds should just get out of the way from it. 201 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 2: Let the state. 202 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 3: This is something you know, as Republicans, we believe in 203 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 3: federalism and putting and giving this issues back to the states. 204 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 3: They love giving issues back to the states, and they 205 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 3: should do that. And for our Attorney general to be 206 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 3: signing on to a letter, you know, supporting this ban, 207 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 3: our attorney general should be grabbing the other attorney's general 208 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 3: in the states where it's where cannabis is legal and 209 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 3: filing a lawsuit to have to say, under the fourteenth Amendment, 210 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 3: the federal government is blocking, is infringing the states' rights, 211 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 3: and let the Supreme Court, who loves to kick things 212 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 3: back to the states, let them decide this. 213 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: Laura Schredonnaire, Jeff O'Brien, thank you so much for hanging 214 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: out this morning. 215 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. We're going to switch gears here in 216 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 2: just a moment. 217 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: We'll talk about the city council member that was carjacked 218 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: just a few days ago. Liz Colin from auth the 219 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: News will join us in the show at day and 220 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: we'll let Chuck have the final word on this topic. 221 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 8: My opinion is, if it was supposed to be a 222 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 8: clean bill, then they should strip out all of that 223 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 8: craft Republicans, Democrats. It should be a clean bill, So 224 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 8: boot it out. Vote for the bill. 225 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: Oh hell yeah. 226 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: Minneapolis City council member Jamal Osman carjacks. Working off of 227 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: a version here from Alpha News. We'll talk with Liz 228 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: Collin from Alphainus coming up in about ten minutes from 229 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: now here on Twin Cities News Talk as we continue 230 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: our show from the six five to one Carpet plus 231 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: Next Day Install Studios. Jamal Osman, a member of the 232 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: Minneapolis City Council representing Ward six, says he was carjacked 233 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: on Monday night by two youths two youth releasing a 234 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: statement on social media saying he was partner of Portland 235 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: Avenue in Lake Street. Making a phone call to his 236 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: sister when the incident happened, it should be in terms 237 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: of probability, like the probability in the odds of a 238 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: city council member getting carjacked should be incredibly low, as 239 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: it should be for anybody traveling into Minneapolis. But when 240 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: you have as many carjackings as Minneapolis has, apparently, it 241 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: ends up becoming inevitable. Thankfully, I am safe and unharmed. 242 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: Minneapolis police responded quickly to the incident. 243 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: What no violence interrupters. 244 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: Oh, I suppose that the violence interrupters had done their job, 245 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: they would have interrupted this before his car was jacked. 246 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: It us thank the police chief and the mayor for 247 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: reaching out and checking on things. According to Osmond's statement, 248 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: police believe the suspects described as two youth cars, another 249 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: victim and their child earlier in the evening. I'll give 250 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: you details on that in just a moment. I'm not 251 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 1: laughing at the misfortune. It's just ridiculous. Osmond was re 252 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: elected last week by fifty eight percent of the vote. 253 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 1: He faced scrutiny this year when it was revealed a 254 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: nonprofit he founded was used by fraudsters in the Minnesota 255 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: Feeding our Future scandal. The Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O'Hara 256 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: said during a briefing yesterday afternoon that the two juveniles 257 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: in connection to the crime spree and two adults were 258 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: arrested in connection to a separate carjacking. Quick side note 259 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: on all of this, by the way, and that is 260 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: I was looking at the it's a lot of numbers. 261 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: I didn't pull them for you, but I'll give you 262 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: the I'll give you the summary. I was looking at 263 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: the data of the number of a registered voters in 264 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: Minneapolis versus the number of registered voters that actually went 265 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: and voted in the election in Minneapolis, and once again, 266 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: it's really sad. I mean, less than half of registered 267 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: voters go out to go and vote, and that gets 268 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: diluted even further when you're talking about rank choice voting. 269 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: I'll just reiterate the commentary post election last week, and 270 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: that is, if one you had the will and desire 271 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: and the funding to go and put in strong conservative, libertarian, 272 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: just moderate candidates in Minneapolis, and you worked diligently to 273 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: increase the voter turnout, you could absolutely win an election 274 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: in Minneapolis. And that same thing rings true when it 275 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: comes to all the elections you just need to increase 276 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: the voter turnout, which is what Republicans need to be 277 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: focused on moving forward. So back to this story though, 278 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: here's how the whole thing broke down. According to the 279 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: police chief, between two pm and eight pm, police officers 280 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: in the first, fourth, and fifth precincts responded to a 281 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: series series of incidents that police believe are connected, involving 282 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: three stolen vehicles. So around two pm broad daylight. Around 283 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: two PM, a Subaru Outback was stolen after a victim 284 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: inadvertently left her keyfob in the car. 285 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 2: You shouldn't want You shouldn't do that too. I still 286 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 2: shouldn't have the car stolen. 287 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: Over the next several hours, the suspects used the Subaru 288 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: to commit multiple robberies and attempted carjackings across the city 289 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: like its Sport, including one on Elmwood Avenue North near 290 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: Hennepin Avenue, where a victim was assaulted as the suspects 291 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: tried to take his vehicle. Around five fifteen PM, officers 292 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: were dispatched to a disturbance at the six hundred block 293 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: of Elwood and found a woman who said that she 294 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: was putting her daughter in the car when a suspect 295 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: got into the driver's seat and attempted to drive away. 296 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: The woman jumped on her daughter in the back seat, 297 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: and as she did so, the suspect, who was driving 298 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: the car, began punching her in the face and head. 299 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: The suspect jumped out of the vehicle. It struck multiple 300 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: lane markers before the victim was able to bring the 301 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: vehicle to a halt. The suspects carjacked a gray Subaru 302 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: Legacy near the sixteen hundred block of Hennepin Avenue around 303 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: six thirty one pm, where they threatened the victim smashed 304 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: his cell phone before stealing it and fleeing it. At 305 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: seven point fifty seven pm, police believed the same suspect 306 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: suspects committed another carjacking of council member Osman near Lake 307 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: Street and Portland Avenue. They threatened Osmon with Mason stole 308 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: his white Volkswagen Atlas. Within minutes of the incident, The 309 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: fifth Precinct officers spotted the stolen Subaru and Osmond's Volkswagen 310 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: near Lake and Pillsbury Avenue. Police attempted to stop the vehicles. 311 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 1: Both of them fled, striking several uninvolved cars. In Police 312 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: arrested the two suspects after a short footchase. A replica 313 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: firearm was recovered. The suspects ages, by the way, fifteen 314 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: and sixteen years old. Oh In an unrelated case, police 315 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: arrested two adults overnight following an armed carjacking with a 316 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: vehicle in pursuit. We'll talk with this call in here 317 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 1: in just a moment and we'll get her thoughts on 318 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: this story. 319 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,479 Speaker 2: Let me just add one thing to this whole story. 320 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: Would we have heard at all about the other story 321 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: here relating to the woman who jumped on her daughter 322 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: in the backseat of the car as it was being 323 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: carjacked by either a fifteen or sixteen year old and 324 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: ended up getting punched in the face. 325 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 2: And the head. 326 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: Or did we only hear about that portion of the story, 327 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: and do we only hear about her story because a 328 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: city council member got carjacked relating to that story. 329 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 2: Twin City's News Talk. 330 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: Hey, I'm eleven thirty and one oh three five FM. 331 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: Glad you're with the show this morning. Before we talk 332 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: with Liz Collin from ALFA News, let's get to your 333 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: talkback of the day, brought to you by minileafanmnileaf dot com. 334 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 9: They used to hang horse thieves. Nowadays we get around 335 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 9: in cars, not horses. There needs to be a stronger deterrent, 336 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 9: stronger penalty, like take away their iPhones permanently. But then 337 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 9: now that wouldn't work because I would be considered cool 338 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 9: and unusual. 339 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: Punishment, referencing the Jamal Osmond City councilman getting carjacked, which 340 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: we were just talking about. Thank you, rister, you are 341 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: our talkback of the day. It's brought to you by 342 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: mini Leaf and minileaf dot com joining us once again 343 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: calling from Alpha News back to back return appearance. 344 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: Good morning, Liz, how are you? 345 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 10: Good morning John? 346 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: Done well, how are you? I'm okay. I will say 347 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 2: that I was a little disappointed. 348 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: I went online this morning when I was doing my 349 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 1: prep because I used X for my prep, and I 350 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: saw these photographs from the Alpha News ten year anniversary party, 351 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, guys, I don't I didn't. 352 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: I didn't know that was going on, but apparently I 353 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: got sent an invite. 354 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 2: I don't remember getting one. 355 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 10: Yeah, well, you were top top of the list for 356 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 10: the party, but we also knew it was Tuesday evening 357 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 10: which is why we figured you wouldn't come at all 358 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 10: because you turned into a pumpkin at six o'clock. 359 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true. I saw the photos. 360 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: I was disappointed, and then I went, it's not like 361 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: I would have gone anyhow, and they probably were aware 362 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: of that. 363 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 10: So yeah, so that's why I was going to bring 364 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 10: that up on the air, but no. Alphanus turned ten 365 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 10: and we had a little celebration last night. Had a 366 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 10: really cool spot, kind of a castle, and we had 367 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 10: some supporters that were there from the very beginning. So 368 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 10: just pretty amazing to see how far we've come in 369 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 10: ten years. I've only been around for about about four, 370 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 10: but it was really fun to get some folks together 371 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 10: and kind of look back and also talk about what's 372 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 10: to come. Some exciting things for sure. 373 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 2: Well, I didn't know it was. I didn't know it 374 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 2: was it was at a castle. If I had, maybe 375 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 2: I would have changed my tune. 376 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 10: See that changes everything. 377 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I'll have to look. I'll have 378 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 2: to I'll have to look. 379 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 1: It's not like I go through my email and just 380 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,479 Speaker 1: clear out emails and mass at all. 381 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: I don't ever do that. 382 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: So since I certainly didn't deleted by mistake, which probably 383 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: did happen. So let's get back to Let's get to 384 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: what we typically talk about, and that is stories available 385 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: at Alpha News. I just gave the details from your 386 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: story at Alpha News the Minneapolis City council member Jamal 387 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: Osmond karjacked to two juveniles fifteen and sixteen, arrested in 388 00:21:58,800 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: the crime. 389 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 2: I raised the question a moment ago, Liz. 390 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: You know, listen, the story of the Sydney council person 391 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: getting carjacked is certainly big enough on its own. However, 392 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 1: the subsequent details leading up to Jamal Osmond getting carjacked 393 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: are almost more significant. And I wonder if we would 394 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: have even found out about this situation with the mother 395 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: and her daughter, the car being carjacked, her trying to 396 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: keep this from happening, getting punched by the individual who 397 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: was stealing the car. I mean, would we have even 398 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: heard about this, this story if it had been for Jamal. 399 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,239 Speaker 10: Yeah, the timeline is absolutely wild, and I think you're right. 400 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 10: The only reason we know is because this council member 401 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 10: went on social media to basically say he was okay, 402 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 10: thank the thank the police, and then I think it 403 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 10: led to the police having to talk about everything else. 404 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 10: But yeah, between two and eight, these police are responding 405 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 10: three stolen vehicles. 406 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 2: And then there's this. 407 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 10: Specific stolen vehicles, the super outpat outback that that's stolen 408 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 10: from First Avenue South. The victim left the key fob 409 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 10: in the car. I have a lot of questions about 410 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 10: a lot of this. How anybody's not taking precautions in Minneapolis. 411 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 2: It seems wild. 412 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 10: But yeah, then there's this attempted carjackings across the city 413 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 10: that they talk about. I mean, doesn't sound like the 414 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 10: wild wild West as you even read it. And then 415 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 10: they're called a few hours later to a disturbance on 416 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 10: the other side of town putting her There's a woman 417 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 10: putting her daughter in a car when the suspect got 418 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 10: away in the driver's seat, attempting to drive away. The 419 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 10: woman then jumps on her daughter in the back seat, 420 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 10: so this suspect driving the car began punching her in 421 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 10: the face and in the head. Then the suspect jumps 422 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 10: out of the vehicle, struck multiple lane markers before the 423 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 10: victim was able to bring the vehicle to a stop. 424 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 10: And then it's a six thirty. I mean, I honestly 425 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 10: can't even laugh. It's absolutely no, it's insane real life. Yeah, 426 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 10: and I think it's been eight o'clock, eight o'clock right 427 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 10: when Jamal Osmond is then finally the victim in all 428 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 10: of this. And the amazing too, the original suspect description is. 429 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 10: I think it just comes out like they're looking for 430 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 10: two juveniles. That's all we know about them. Yeah, two, 431 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 10: and now we know more obviously, but. 432 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: Two youth fifteenth, fifteen and sixteen years old. 433 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 2: And then you have in here too. I know you 434 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 2: guys did an update. 435 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: On Monday at six seven am, a man was carjacked 436 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 1: at gunpoint at a gas station near Penn Avenue North. 437 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: Those suspects, described as two men in a white Ford pickup, 438 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: stole the victims Kiya Forte at two forty am on 439 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: Tuesday morning, Fourth Precinct officers located the stolen Kia initiated 440 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: a pursuit. 441 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:51,959 Speaker 2: They fled. 442 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: They crashed the vehicle near sixteenth in Queen Avenue. The 443 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: passenger was arrested at the scene. The driver was arrested 444 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: a few minutes later after perim to search. Both suspects 445 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: have criminal histories and had active warrants at the time 446 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,719 Speaker 1: of their arrest. I mean this is just over and 447 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: over again, these stories repeat Liz, and these two. 448 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 10: Kids are responsible to just for terrorizing the city for hours, 449 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 10: hours on end, and they and exactly they have warrants, 450 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 10: meaning they've been arrested probably many times before and perhaps 451 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 10: they're out by tomorrow at this rate. With what has 452 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 10: gone on, well, it's really really sad. 453 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: And that's what I wanted to ask, was I would 454 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,959 Speaker 1: I would hope that there would be some tracking. I know, 455 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: I would very much be interested in knowing sort of 456 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: or knowing what happens with these two individuals moving moving forward, 457 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: and I hope there's follow up to find out, you know, 458 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: what repercussions, if any, they end up facing. It'd be 459 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: very interesting to see whether or not they actually do 460 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: or are held more accountable than typically fifteen the sixteen 461 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: year olds are, just because of their carjacking of a 462 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: city council member. I'm very curious to see what ends 463 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: up happening with these two youths. 464 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm gonna be honest, I don't think much. And 465 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 10: that's the situation we're in with Hennepin County Attorney Mary 466 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 10: Moriarty at the HELM pretty difficult to hold especially. 467 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 2: Teenagers very long at all. 468 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 10: There's been some rumblings that there could even be more 469 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 10: with her and certain ages of people that will not 470 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,479 Speaker 10: be charged with felonies moving forward, something we've we'll do 471 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 10: some reporting on. But again, I mean, it's like you 472 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 10: can have you can have as many cops in the 473 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 10: world in Minneapolis, but if they're not allowed to actually 474 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 10: do their jobs and enforce the law, that much is 475 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 10: going to change with these people in charge. 476 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: I want to get to a couple of comments that 477 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 1: have come in to the iHeart or radio app talkback, 478 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: So I'm talking with Liz Colin from Alpha News. 479 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 11: John This story drives me absolutely bonkers. This happens to 480 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 11: a couple hundred people in Minneapolis every single year, and 481 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 11: they don't get their ten minutes of fame. But because 482 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 11: he's a consul member, he gets his ten minutes of 483 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 11: fame on every news outlet in Minnesota. It's just ridiculous. 484 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 11: It happens all the time. 485 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 12: It reminds me of the First Fast the Furious plot, 486 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 12: where all the truckers kept getting hijacked and they were patient, 487 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 12: they would be waiting for police to do something about it, 488 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 12: but they never did so. Then they started arming themselves 489 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 12: with firearms. I wonder when that's gonna start happening in 490 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 12: Minneapolis after they realize, well, they're not going to do 491 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 12: anything about it. 492 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I guess, you know, Liz, if that was 493 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: going to happen, it would have happened already. And I mean, 494 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: we've seen story after story of individuals when they're interviewed 495 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: by local media regarding the cars that are being vandalized. 496 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: We just had a whole what another one hundred at 497 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: Lowry Hill, and you hear comments from the residents going, well, 498 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: I didn't put it in the garage. 499 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 2: I guess that's my bad. 500 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: I'll just factor in the price of fixing the car 501 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: into my yearly expenses. You know, I think at this point, 502 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: if somebody was going to actually go and take matters 503 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: into their own hands, people would have started doing it already. 504 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: And it just seems to have become a common way 505 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: of life if you're living in Minneapolis right now, Liz. 506 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 10: Well, and look at what happened to the man that 507 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,479 Speaker 10: was two weeks ago, man in his forties who had 508 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 10: somebody rifling through his car at seven in the morning 509 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 10: at his workplace and confronted him and he was shot 510 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 10: and killed, and then you had the police chief come 511 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 10: out and talk about just how tragic this was kind 512 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 10: of over nothing. But I also thought that messaging maybe 513 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 10: it maybe isn't the best. This is this is something 514 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 10: to a lot of people. Nobody wants their property property stolen, 515 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,719 Speaker 10: and this just continuing feeling of violation. But yeah, you're right, 516 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 10: some people think that, you know, this isn't this isn't 517 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 10: that big a deal, or you know, they they you know, 518 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 10: look at the look at the root causes, and they 519 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 10: feel bad for these these kids. But I really it's 520 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 10: it's hard to wrap your head around at this point. 521 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: Let's call here to this story available about off the news. 522 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: Minnesota Department of Corrections Commissioner Paul Schnell's ex wife was 523 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: sentenced to just three years in prison for attempted murder 524 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: of their disabled son. 525 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 2: I mean, when you get into the fact that essentially she. 526 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: Was crushing up prescription medication and putting them in water 527 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: in order to in order to what murder this particular individual. 528 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 2: This story is just wild, Liz, Yeah. 529 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 10: This is this is awful. So the sentencing was on 530 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 10: Friday last week, but this incident took place back in 531 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 10: December of twenty twenty three, so this is now the 532 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 10: ex wife. They were married at the time. Julie Meyer Schnell. 533 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 10: Paul Schnell is in charge of the Department of Corrections, 534 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 10: the Commissioner of corre Actions of Minnesota, so a Wall's appointee. 535 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 2: But the complaint details. 536 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 10: Just this. 537 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely awful. 538 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 10: But she talked about how she did it. She attempted 539 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 10: to kill her own son. He's disabled, living in a 540 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 10: group home in Badness Heights. He requires a feeding tube, 541 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 10: so she crushes up medication, her anxiety pills, mixing them 542 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 10: into his feeding bag, hoping he would go to sleep forever, is. 543 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 2: What she said. 544 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 10: She actually told this to her son, who then has 545 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 10: this obviously horrendous reaction. He's hospitalized low bread pressure, respiratory failure. 546 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 10: He goes into the staff at the time did not 547 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 10: conduct a toxicology screen. But then they're looking through her 548 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 10: communications and sounds like she, you know, confessed to him 549 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 10: and others and talks talks about it. It's absolutely horrid, 550 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 10: and she's facing at the time an eighteen year sentence 551 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,719 Speaker 10: ends up with a three year sentence last Friday. I mean, 552 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 10: you'll only see serve two years for this because of 553 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 10: the two thirds rule in Minnesota, and the Scott County 554 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 10: Attorney made it very clear how he felt about the sentencing, 555 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 10: calling it completely inappropriate and an example of why people 556 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 10: feel the justice system is flawed. But yeah, the details 557 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 10: of this are absolutely horrid and luckily their sun survived. 558 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 559 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: I was when I was going through doing my notes, 560 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: I it was done to find out that she only 561 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: got three years in all of this. 562 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 2: I just I can't. I mean, what else do you say? 563 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,239 Speaker 1: I mean, on top of what we were, you know, 564 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: discussing with the lack of accountability in Minneapolis when it 565 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: comes to actions like this, what kind of message does 566 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: that send? Oh, hey, you can attempt to, you know, 567 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: to go on murder and a disabled kid, but you're 568 00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: only going to have to spend a couple of years 569 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: in prison for it. 570 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: I just I don't get it. List. 571 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 10: Yeah, and also we've had the messaging from Commissioner Snell 572 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 10: talk about well, you know, I basically I divorced her 573 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 10: after this, and I'm going to have nothing to do 574 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 10: with you know. 575 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 2: I would hope. So it's so it's so dark. It's 576 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 2: just so dark. 577 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to let's do let's do one 578 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: more here, speaking of children. 579 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 2: A children's book. 580 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: This children's book called We Miss You George Floyd is 581 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: available at libraries throughout the Twin Cities for as it's described, 582 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: for children working through George Floyd's murder and the police 583 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: violence plaguing our country. 584 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 2: Listen. 585 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: Is this a children's book or a or a horror story? 586 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: I guess it depends on what version you get. Although 587 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: from what I can detail or what is detailed in 588 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: the Alphanus story, Liz Colin not a whole lot of 589 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: full context relating to George Floyd's background in the in 590 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: this children's book. 591 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 10: Yeah, they left that out of the children's book version, 592 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,479 Speaker 10: no doubt. Actually this is this is why a one 593 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 10: of our reporters just happened to discover this book at 594 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 10: a library recently, And that's why you put a story together. 595 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 10: We almost couldn't believe what they were pushing on our 596 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 10: younger generation. But yeah, I encourage people to check out 597 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 10: that story, even just the the way things are are 598 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 10: are afraised. I think there's also a word find in 599 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 10: the book defund the police. I think it's one of 600 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 10: the things you can can look for. What's interesting. The 601 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 10: Hennipen County Library System. I think there are twenty five copies. 602 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 10: I think there's only about three copies of my book. 603 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 10: They're lying the media of the Left and the death 604 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 10: of George Floyd and the henif the County Library system. 605 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 10: So and my book is in the conspiracy theory section 606 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 10: also still but meanwhile this is this is in the 607 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 10: children's area for people thought better. But anyway, it's really crazy, 608 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 10: and I actually does it seems to be encouraging because 609 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 10: all the comments are people seem to be just as 610 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 10: appalled as we were that this is being offered to children. 611 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: I didn't realize they had a section on conspiracy theories. 612 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 2: I love that. That doesn't surprise me. You're gonna love 613 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 2: You're gonna love that section. You're gonna love the section 614 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 2: in the in the least bit. So all right, let's 615 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 2: call it anything else you want to mention before we 616 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 2: before we say goodbye this morning. 617 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 10: You know, interesting story coming up about Ramsey County property 618 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 10: taxes and where money is going and how many NGOs 619 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 10: are being supported by tax dollars in Ramsey County. So 620 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 10: that's coming up in the next couple of days. At 621 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 10: Alphanus it's some new content there at alphanews dot org 622 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 10: as well. 623 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I see you actually have an update. 624 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: We've been following the story of a representative, Pam Altendorf 625 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: and the snap surge right around the COVID years. Of course, 626 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,879 Speaker 1: the Minnesota explanation about how it was just basically an 627 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 1: accounting error where they included in other benefits they shouldn't 628 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: been there. But this has raised a whole host of 629 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: other questions. And I know you have a brand new story. 630 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: It's available at the website that we'll certainly be talking 631 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: about on tomorrow's show, So everybody can head on over 632 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: to alphaan Whust dot org for that. 633 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 2: So glad your tenth anniversary party went well. 634 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: Sorry I missed it at the at the Council at 635 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: the Castle, but maybe next year. 636 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 10: Yes, the eleventh will be big. We'll have it at 637 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 10: three in the afternoons. 638 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 2: You can make it fantastic. I'm already there. Let's call on. 639 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 2: Thank you for the time this morning, as always, I 640 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 2: appreciate it. 641 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 10: Thank you very much, John, I'm great day. 642 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: This George Floyd book, By the Way, published by the 643 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: University of Minnesota Press, describes Floyd's death as the longest, 644 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 1: cruelest eight minutes and forty six seconds. 645 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 2: The police came. They pinned him down. 646 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,760 Speaker 1: They didn't listen even when he said, I can't breathe 647 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: one page, says the University of Minnesota Press, as the 648 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: book follows a young girl as she tries to reckon 649 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 1: with the senseless, senseless violence of Floyd's killing. For children 650 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,240 Speaker 1: working through George Floyd's murder and the police violence plaguing 651 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: our country, and for the grownups just trying to help him, 652 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: this book is an invitation to open up a difficult conversation, 653 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: says the book's description. There are no difficul difficult conversations 654 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: happening in this book. They only painted one side of 655 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 1: the story. By the way, can you provide a similar 656 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: children's book or a similar book geared towards children with 657 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: this level of extreme subject matter. Yeah, we'll spend a 658 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: little bit more time on this, on this story on 659 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: tomorrow's show. There's some further details in here, just from 660 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: a ridiculous standpoint, that need to be shared, And this 661 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 1: morning we're completely. 662 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 2: Out of time. 663 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining the show today. Of course, 664 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: if you missed any portion of the broadcast, check out 665 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: the podcast that's available, and we'll be available up on 666 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app. Thank you to Devin. We'll see him 667 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: again tomorrow in the Master Control booth, and thank you 668 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 1: for spending time with us this morning. If you want, 669 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: you can email me Justice at iHeartRadio dot com or 670 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 1: leave a talk back overnight. I check those every morning 671 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: when I arrive. Have yourself a great Wednesday. I'll talk 672 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: to you guys tomorrow. 673 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 2: Bye,