Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: The strange of George thorough Goods electric guitar can only
Speaker 2: mean one thing, and that means it will He's out
Speaker 2: and I'm in. It's the average American in for the
Speaker 2: great American on this Chile Wednesday. Great to have you
Speaker 2: with us as always, And I don't say that capriciously,
Speaker 2: for without you, what would I be? I would be
Speaker 2: one man sitting in a room babbling incoherently to himself.
Speaker 2: And why would I have to leave home to do that?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: There's a lot going on here locally, a lot going
Speaker 2: on in the world. Answer me this. How could a
Speaker 2: man drive from Washington State all the way across country
Speaker 2: to Washington, Washington, d C. And then allegedly shoot two
Speaker 2: National guardsmen? And is this not a warning sign, a
Speaker 2: red flag deluxe for the federal government. Maybe what happened
Speaker 2: in Washington, d C. Is not going to be an
Speaker 2: isolated instance. We hear all these stories about all of
Speaker 2: these foreign nationals that are in our country, either legally
Speaker 2: or illegally, And in this case, this Afghan was in
Speaker 2: this country legally. He was brought in under the auspices
Speaker 2: of Joe Biden's administration and then turned loose on the
Speaker 2: streets of the United States and the highways that led
Speaker 2: allegedly from Washington to Washington, d C. How did that happen?
Speaker 2: And are the people that helped us in Afghanistan Afghanistan
Speaker 2: all those many years, are they truly trustworthy? Regardless of
Speaker 2: what we have heard, There was absolutely no vetting Gune,
Speaker 2: despite what the national media would have you believe. But
Speaker 2: standing by to join us as somebody who is a
Speaker 2: former CIA officer, a veteran of the conconventional warfare side
Speaker 2: of the United States Special Operations Command, what does that mean?
Speaker 2: Means he worked under the cover of darkness. He worked
Speaker 2: under the cover of what was going on militarily in
Speaker 2: Afghanistan and worked alongside a lot of the Afghan nationals
Speaker 2: that were helping us. But does that help extend past
Speaker 2: the time that the United States was over in Afghanistan?
Speaker 2: And if so, does it extend peacefully? I speak of
Speaker 2: a man by the name of Adam Hartage. He is
Speaker 2: the author of the book The Alpha Blueprint, Preparing the
Speaker 2: Next Generation for an AI Future. And it's great to
Speaker 2: have Adam Hartage back on the show Whether Us again.
Speaker 2: At Adam Hartich, how are you on this glorious Wednesday.
Speaker 3: I'm great, can thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2: Appreciate it, you bet, you bet. Now, by and large,
Speaker 2: what the CIA needs from operatives in a country when
Speaker 2: they're in there trying to fight a war or win
Speaker 2: a war, whatever it may be, compared to what those
Speaker 2: particular assets will do when they arrive in another country
Speaker 2: like ours, are two different things. You worked alongside a
Speaker 2: lot of these folks that are considered to be quote
Speaker 2: unquote wartime surrogates by at large, What was the trustworthiness
Speaker 2: of these people you worked alongside?
Speaker 4: You know, I'll give you the my my most honest
Speaker 4: answer that I can in the sense that it's all
Speaker 4: very much colored by my perception, my perspective when I
Speaker 4: was there.
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying it's the caveat.
Speaker 5: I think I just want to actually have.
Speaker 4: A real conversation about this. So you know, at the
Speaker 4: time during the war, these guys are literally fighting for
Speaker 4: their lives every single day.
Speaker 3: The trustworthiness factor is extremely.
Speaker 4: High because you'll be working alongside them, fighting alongside them sometimes.
Speaker 4: And then as well, you're talking about guys who you know,
Speaker 4: they they've got you know, they've got just as many
Speaker 4: bullets in their gun as you do, you know, and
Speaker 4: so to work together, especially in a small unit like that,
Speaker 4: at the trustworthy in factor has to be extremely high.
Speaker 4: So first off, when we left Afghanistan, there was no
Speaker 4: vetting of anything of anyone. I mean, you're talking about
Speaker 4: literally palace of cash left on the tarmac.
Speaker 5: You're talking about people.
Speaker 4: Falling off of the wings of the seventeens trying to
Speaker 4: you know, trying to ride on top of the wing
Speaker 4: all the way home to America.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was an insanely.
Speaker 4: Irresponsible way to leave a warzone a country. So that
Speaker 4: falls squarely on the Biden administration. And I'm not trying
Speaker 4: to get political and just you know, say one administration
Speaker 4: over the other. What I'm saying is there was no
Speaker 4: excuse that was completely unfrigeable.
Speaker 2: They were seven people on airplanes or anybody, let's go
Speaker 2: get out, get out. No, there's no vetting.
Speaker 5: But in truth, exactly there's zero, zero vetting.
Speaker 2: But in truth, not all of these guys that were
Speaker 2: used that were our wartime surrogates. We're all on the
Speaker 2: up and up. I just saw on the cable shows
Speaker 2: here a couple of weeks ago, there was a bronze
Speaker 2: star recipient, man by the name of Mark Lucas. He
Speaker 2: said Afghan allies were quote unquote untrustworthy and perpetuated a
Speaker 2: barbaric culture of pedophilia and abusing women. He said, you
Speaker 2: had to watch these guys twenty four to seven or
Speaker 2: they just might attack the Afghan women. That might be
Speaker 2: some wartime surrogate.
Speaker 4: So I don't introduce any of that as the character.
Speaker 2: Yes, So okay, so you had that going on, you
Speaker 2: had information with the CIA that you're trying to extract
Speaker 2: from these dudes, which I'm guessing you were getting, and
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, here comes the fall of Afghanistan.
Speaker 2: Here comes that awful scene at that air base where
Speaker 2: those thirteen men and women in service were killed. And
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, these people that were running around
Speaker 2: the hills of Afghanistan are on a plane going initially
Speaker 2: to these pods around the world before being dumped into
Speaker 2: America unvetted. And this might be within six to eight
Speaker 2: months from them being goat farmers up in the hills
Speaker 2: of Afghanistan. So who didn't see a problem with that,
Speaker 2: right right?
Speaker 4: Well, so this goes this goes to the deeper problem
Speaker 4: of also cultural assimilation. So it would be one thing.
Speaker 4: Let's say that in a perfect world, here's what should happen.
Speaker 4: So you go over there, you work, You work with
Speaker 4: these paramilitary groups or the as surrogates or insurgents or
Speaker 4: whatever you want to call them, train them up to
Speaker 4: a high standard.
Speaker 1: And instill some some.
Speaker 4: Western values in them, because I mean you won't there's
Speaker 4: no exporting democracy place.
Speaker 3: Like Afghanistan, you know, but you.
Speaker 4: Can instill some sort of non barbaric trustworthy that trustworthiness
Speaker 4: standard and everything else, and so you can vet.
Speaker 5: Out over time.
Speaker 4: Let's say you're working with them for a series of
Speaker 4: as a lot of these guys were, then you can
Speaker 4: build a real dot, a real personal file, a real okay,
Speaker 4: now this guy.
Speaker 3: Really is that it.
Speaker 5: He's worked for us for ten.
Speaker 3: Years, his wife is very lovely. You know his kids,
Speaker 3: we know whose children are?
Speaker 4: All this stuff, right, And then you could sponsor them
Speaker 4: through an immigrant feed the program, which we saw some
Speaker 4: success out of a rock doing that. And then once
Speaker 4: they've gone to all that and they get to the US,
Speaker 4: then you put them through a program to assimilate them
Speaker 4: to American culture and comes in attritions, I mean literally,
Speaker 4: things like you cannot you cannot perform BC reality. You
Speaker 4: know in America, you know you cannot take little boys
Speaker 4: off the street for.
Speaker 1: Hurricane Night on Thursday.
Speaker 4: Like these things are illegal. You cannot do what.
Speaker 2: Was hurricane night.
Speaker 4: Hurricane night is when they would round up air quotes.
Speaker 5: And this is better if I'm on video.
Speaker 3: But I'll just have to explain. So what they do
Speaker 3: is is.
Speaker 4: Say they, I mean, the men of a village, of
Speaker 4: an Afghan village, will round up the boys who are
Speaker 4: around nine or ten years old.
Speaker 5: Basically it's before you have hair on your face.
Speaker 4: So children, they'll round them up, put them in dresses,
Speaker 4: a makeup on them, and have them dance like little girls.
Speaker 3: And then the rest happens.
Speaker 4: They rape the boys and they go all night, and
Speaker 4: it's every Thursday.
Speaker 5: They call it Hurricane Night.
Speaker 2: So but this alleged, and we have to keep using
Speaker 2: the word alleged, But this alleged assassin that shot and
Speaker 2: killed one particular National guardsman a woman, and then severely
Speaker 2: injured another who remains in critical condition. He drives cross
Speaker 2: country and pulls this off just before Thanksgiving. And what
Speaker 2: I saw it, obviously, I was absolutely appalled and disgusted.
Speaker 2: But Secondly, I'm not so prized by this. There are
Speaker 2: a lot of people, as you well know, Adam, that
Speaker 2: are running around this country. We have no idea who
Speaker 2: they are, what they're up to, and what their motives
Speaker 2: may be, that have committed this country legally through this
Speaker 2: this this plan that we had to relocate Afghans that
Speaker 2: were sympathetic to us to the United States and illegally
Speaker 2: through the southern border. So I'm just wondering, do you
Speaker 2: sense that this is a warning shot or do you
Speaker 2: no pun intended? Or do you sense that we're going
Speaker 2: to see a lot more of this as the years progress.
Speaker 4: My honest sense of it is that there's more to
Speaker 4: the story. It doesn't really I'd like to get deeper
Speaker 4: into this guy's personal motivations because I would be surprised,
Speaker 4: frankly if it was just one of these truly ideological
Speaker 4: things that I'm you know, have my personal jiad to
Speaker 4: kill Americans. Usually things like that have a sponsor behind them,
Speaker 4: a sponsor meeting that this guy was recruited by some
Speaker 4: intelligent source that directed him to go carry out and attack.
Speaker 5: I would I would guess that would be based.
Speaker 4: On my experience, based on the things that I know,
Speaker 4: I just it never passes the sniff.
Speaker 5: Test me that that like the loan gunman.
Speaker 1: So to speak.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and this guy was apparently what's some
Speaker 2: group called zero unit over in Afghanistan? What is zero unit?
Speaker 2: Because I mean that sounds like it was some select
Speaker 2: group that could carry out missions and fight and all that.
Speaker 2: What is what was it? Was it zero unit? Totally Afghans?
Speaker 2: And what what was it?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: So the zero teams or zero unit, there was I
Speaker 4: think four or five of them, and it was and
Speaker 4: it had zero one, zero two, zero three.
Speaker 5: And it just had to do with their regional.
Speaker 4: Designation where they were, whether it.
Speaker 5: Was you know, coast or Kandahar or whatever.
Speaker 4: But uh, but yes, they what made them think of
Speaker 4: them as kind of like an indigenous Delta force if
Speaker 4: you will, trained by by our c i A, trained
Speaker 4: by our pier special operations units, and they operated under
Speaker 4: very loose authorities, kind of outside the traditional Afghan National Army,
Speaker 4: kind of like the kind of like the untouchables, if
Speaker 4: you will, and so and so if you think of
Speaker 4: like c I A peeramilitary officers or you know, your
Speaker 4: your real meat eat and steal Team six guys, your
Speaker 4: Delta guys. Uh, it's the same kind of thing, but
Speaker 4: with an Afghan.
Speaker 6: Play very very very very highly trained Okay, and the.
Speaker 3: C I A worked let's train best equipment.
Speaker 2: Right and wait, worked hand in hand with these guys.
Speaker 2: Did how complicit is the c I A Uh? And
Speaker 2: with all these people that were that were taken out
Speaker 2: of their country that weren't fitted and understand that you
Speaker 2: build a dossier on a lot of these guys as
Speaker 2: you were working with them. But it seems to me
Speaker 2: that maybe the CIA dropped the ball here. Why not
Speaker 2: insisting more when these before these these people got into
Speaker 2: our country? Did the CIA drop the ball on this?
Speaker 4: I mean I personally, I don't know who is responsible
Speaker 4: for that, but I would say most likely the interest
Speaker 4: either yeah, at the agency where it's some other bureaucracy,
Speaker 4: whether it's state or you know, the presidential administration, the
Speaker 4: White House. I mean, I don't know exactly how that
Speaker 4: was handled. I mean it seemed like so I was
Speaker 4: not I would I had. I was gone out of
Speaker 4: the service by the time we fled Afghanistan. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: so I was not really super privy to the inside
Speaker 4: baseball of what happened or how it was happening.
Speaker 5: But what it seemed to.
Speaker 4: Me is that one day we're there and the next
Speaker 4: day we just weren't any more. They said, oh, it's
Speaker 4: gonna be chaper to leave eighty five billion dollars worth
Speaker 4: of stuff behind, but we're just going to flee. And
Speaker 4: as I recall too, didn't have something to do with
Speaker 4: you know, I mean this was during the time they
Speaker 4: were throwing everything at Trump, you know, ninety some indictments
Speaker 4: and endless you know, collusion, this and all. As I
Speaker 4: recall it, I think it was just more trying to
Speaker 4: you know, smear mud on a space type thing.
Speaker 5: It was horrible politics.
Speaker 6: So this plane takes off and there's several planes. It
Speaker 6: wasn't one plane.
Speaker 2: His plane takes off, and they just showed people on
Speaker 2: these planes. And as I said, they didn't vet them.
Speaker 2: And even my Arcis, who was Homeland Security director at
Speaker 2: the time, said, yeah, we really didn't talk to everybody
Speaker 2: that got on those planes. Uh yeah, there wasn't really
Speaker 2: great vetting. And now come to find out there wasn't
Speaker 2: much vetting. But what vetting could have taken place, Adam,
Speaker 2: because as I said, in Afghanistan, because of just the
Speaker 2: way that country is. It's a third world country. You
Speaker 2: don't have even birth dates for people, you have birth years.
Speaker 2: But after that, how do you vet and who does
Speaker 2: the vetting? It's I just think when I hear the
Speaker 2: word vetting that, okay, how did you accomplish it? Well,
Speaker 2: it didn't seem like they tried very hard, does it?
Speaker 5: Well? No, of course not.
Speaker 4: And I mean it doesn't pass a common sense test either,
Speaker 4: because so if you think back to like the fall
Speaker 4: of Sidon, you know, as they're as they're lifting the
Speaker 4: helicopters off the rooftop with the people clinging to the pylons,
Speaker 4: you know, I don't I think I don't think that
Speaker 4: they're asking.
Speaker 5: Them to Okay, well watch you we just we just
Speaker 5: for a second, let's.
Speaker 4: Do you your immigration interview, and we'll get your fingerprints
Speaker 4: and we'll get your family history.
Speaker 3: There's none of that.
Speaker 5: It's like, oh my gosh, the.
Speaker 4: Taliban or you know, the Vietnamese or whatever, pick your war, right,
Speaker 4: the VC is at the gates.
Speaker 5: And we got to go, or the Taliban is you
Speaker 5: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So of course there's no betting, you know, So for.
Speaker 5: Them that maybe they're like, oh, yeah, well, later.
Speaker 1: We did some betting.
Speaker 5: You know, we asked them what their name was, Like, well,
Speaker 5: you're talking about a country.
Speaker 4: It doesn't even exist administratively in a lot of places.
Speaker 6: Adam's book is the is called The Alpha Blueprint, Preparing
Speaker 6: the Next Generation for an AI Future, and it's out everywhere.
Speaker 2: Amazon has it and whatnot. And if you've got kids,
Speaker 2: you're right, where do you find truth? Because there's a
Speaker 2: lot passing for truth that is not truth. Adam good
Speaker 2: insight as to what may have transpired with the shooting
Speaker 2: and its roots, and you stay well, and you know,
Speaker 2: we'll talk down the road. Thanks absolutely, you, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Vetting is an interesting term, just acknowledging somebody is
Speaker 2: not vetting. Just shoving them onto an airplane is not vetting.
Speaker 2: Just greeting him at the border as they cross illegally
Speaker 2: into the country is not vetting. And there's been a
Speaker 2: decided lack of it over the last five years. And
Speaker 2: here we go, this is what happened. Is it an
Speaker 2: isolated instance? I don't know. I hope the hell it is.
Speaker 2: I hope there's nothing else like it. Oh, we got
Speaker 2: a lot of people running around this country. That just
Speaker 2: got in here in the last five years. And apparently
Speaker 2: this guy allegedly thought he was going to change the tide.
Speaker 2: For whatever tide he wanted to change, there's a whole
Speaker 2: lot of it. And anybody that thinks there isn't or
Speaker 2: tells you there isn't, they're going in an opposite direction
Speaker 2: of reality. It's twelve twenty five. It's the average American
Speaker 2: and for the great American on this Wednesday, and glad
Speaker 2: that you're along with us, because without you, what are
Speaker 2: we doing here in the first place. Seven hundred wt
Speaker 2: WELW ten, one hundred w lw all one time one Sandy.
Speaker 1: It's the most wonderful time.
Speaker 2: No, we have not gone all Christmas music, Calm down.
Speaker 7: Kids, jing little belling, and everyone telling you be of
Speaker 7: good cheese.
Speaker 2: It's playing this because had he been alive, Andy Williams
Speaker 2: would have turned ninety eight years old today. Of course,
Speaker 2: he died back in twenty twelve. But Williams was born
Speaker 2: in Iowa, but the family quickly moved to Cincinnati, settled
Speaker 2: in Shivy, Itto, And if historians are true, one of
Speaker 2: the first places Andy Wiodiams sang publicly was right here
Speaker 2: on this radio station, seven hundred w welw all those
Speaker 2: many years ago and moved to LA and of course
Speaker 2: found great fame in television back in the sixties and seventies.
Speaker 2: But ninety eight years ago today, Howard Andrew Williams came
Speaker 2: upon this earth. I love to get an air check
Speaker 2: of him singing on w welwa. Maybe Matt Reese, the
Speaker 2: station historian, can get cracking on that one. Would they
Speaker 2: have had tape back then? Did Bing Crosby event tape
Speaker 2: back then? Welcome back seven hundred w welwim ken Brew.
Speaker 2: A couple of things to get to on the program today.
Speaker 2: Number one, Obamacare. It is going to be a major
Speaker 2: issue again in early January because again we are eyeing
Speaker 2: a government shut down possibly in January. But it's also
Speaker 2: an election year that's coming up, and invariably, you know
Speaker 2: what happens in election years, the party that's out of
Speaker 2: power just hammers the party in power, and the number
Speaker 2: one point on the hammer will be healthcare. The Dams
Speaker 2: have already been whistling that tune. That's what led to
Speaker 2: the shutdown. When the Democrats shut the government down back
Speaker 2: in the fall, it was all was all about health care.
Speaker 2: They wanted to extend the extra credits, the extra benefits
Speaker 2: that the Biden administration put in place during the pandemic
Speaker 2: for Obamacare. They were only meant to be temporary, weren't
Speaker 2: meant to be permanent. But that's what the Dems want.
Speaker 2: And Obamacare, which is really from a financial point of view,
Speaker 2: was never really on firm legs, will eventually implode, and
Speaker 2: so there's got to be a better way to ensure
Speaker 2: those who don't have health insurance. Well what is that.
Speaker 2: We're going to talk to a guy that knows the
Speaker 2: healthcare industry inside out, coming up at two o'clock. At
Speaker 2: one o'clock, we had an election last night out in
Speaker 2: Tennessee where the Democrat was someone who openly, it would seem, hated.
Speaker 6: The people of the state she wanted to represent. She
Speaker 6: didn't like country music, she didn't like the police, she
Speaker 6: didn't like this, she didn't like that. He was soundly
Speaker 6: beaten by the Republican. Now there's a lot of narrative
Speaker 6: out there.
Speaker 2: Well, Donald Trump, you know, you know, he won that
Speaker 2: county by twenty two percent. What's Donald Trump? Which is
Speaker 2: the conundrum for Republicans any election that Donald Trump is
Speaker 2: not involved in for some reason, and you would have
Speaker 2: to ask these people why for some reason Republicans don't
Speaker 2: show up at the polling places, particularly and off your elections.
Speaker 2: Well they did for a special election last night, and
Speaker 2: the Republican soundly beat the Democrat. But there's a new
Speaker 2: Gallup survey that's out that shows that we all, you
Speaker 2: meet everyone else, regardless of what we feel from a
Speaker 2: political standpoint, we all embrace democracy. And now, according to
Speaker 2: this survey, eighty percent reject political violence, which would fly
Speaker 2: in the face of several surveys and Gallup polls and
Speaker 2: whatnot that were taken within this last year that chose
Speaker 2: at the younger end of the demographic seems to have
Speaker 2: no problem with violence.
Speaker 6: If it leads to political change. We'll get into that
Speaker 6: at one o'clock.
Speaker 2: We of course, Andy Williams, you know, little holiday spirit
Speaker 2: should be in all of us. Thanksgiving is in the past,
Speaker 2: and now it continues on in robust fashion with holidays
Speaker 2: like New Year's Eve, and holidays like Christmas and han
Speaker 2: again everything else. And sometimes it's the giving powers, the
Speaker 2: power of gratitude that can maybe save you and change
Speaker 2: your brain a little bit and possibly change your life.
Speaker 2: There are scientific surveys that are out there that will
Speaker 2: say doing good things for other people makes you feel
Speaker 2: better about yourself. But sometimes people just don't feel better
Speaker 2: about themselves and they have to have something to look
Speaker 2: forward to. You and I have a lot to look
Speaker 2: forward to. Not everybody does. So there's a neuropsychiatrist, and
Speaker 2: I have no idea what that means, but I'm going
Speaker 2: to try and find out here in a minute. A
Speaker 2: neuropsychiatrist by the name of doctor Jeffrey Disarbo. He specializes
Speaker 2: in how achievement and gratitude can help grow your brain,
Speaker 2: make you smarter, make you happier, make everything else neurologically better.
Speaker 2: And he said, all we have to do is just
Speaker 2: one step at a time, a little something for someone else,
Speaker 2: little something for me, and all of a sudden, now
Speaker 2: the road seems a little less bumpy and the future
Speaker 2: seems a little brighter. At least that's what he would
Speaker 2: have you believe. I'm kind of hooked on this neuropsychiatrist thing,
Speaker 2: but nevertheless, let's bring into the conversation about all of
Speaker 2: this during this time of the year. The aforementioned doctor
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Disarbo, how are you on this glorious Wednesday.
Speaker 1: I'm doing pretty well. I can't complain.
Speaker 2: I would guess you're not someone who worries much about
Speaker 2: the termination of life. I would guess you're somebody that
Speaker 2: lives every day to its fullest, because that seems to
Speaker 2: be what you preach. Am I right or wrong about that?
Speaker 8: I would say in my case, that's absolutely true. But
Speaker 8: I had a great teacher from that, which was my father.
Speaker 8: I always say he taught me both how to live
Speaker 8: and he taught me how to die as well.
Speaker 1: And part of the.
Speaker 8: Key to not fearing the end of it all is
Speaker 8: to make the most of it while you're here. And
Speaker 8: that's why I always say the book, which is The
Speaker 8: Neuroscience of a bucket List, is really I feel he
Speaker 8: kind of co wrote that with me in Spirits.
Speaker 2: Why are so many people in this world today having
Speaker 2: trouble living in the moment? Because it sounds like you
Speaker 2: live in the moment. It sounds like you wake up
Speaker 2: in the morning and you experience a new day. A
Speaker 2: lot of people don't do that.
Speaker 6: They worry about jobs and family, They worry about whether
Speaker 6: or not they have enough money to make it through
Speaker 6: the week.
Speaker 2: Let alone through the rest of their life. Life chemes
Speaker 2: at you pretty hard, and I think there are a
Speaker 2: lot of people that probably don't have the same outlook
Speaker 2: as you do. Would you agree with that?
Speaker 8: Well, I'm not perfect, you know, I do have some
Speaker 8: of the worries that most people have. It's just that
Speaker 8: I've always felt living with a bucketless style of mentality
Speaker 8: and approach is counterbalance to it because we're really being
Speaker 8: fed through through media and social media, you know, always
Speaker 8: to be on edge, to be looking out for what
Speaker 8: comes next, making people feel like they're not in charge
Speaker 8: of their own life, their own future, especially the younger
Speaker 8: generations now more than ever with anxiety. But a bucket
Speaker 8: list really gives somebody the ability to kind of take
Speaker 8: control of a lot of different things. They have control
Speaker 8: and decision power over in their lives by making plans
Speaker 8: that they want to do.
Speaker 2: When people hear bucket list, they think, well, I want
Speaker 2: to do this before I kick the bucket, which is
Speaker 2: literally what it means. But it doesn't always involve things
Speaker 2: that are you have to commit a lot of money too.
Speaker 2: It's not always that Alaskan cruise, although that would be nice.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can find bucket lists, things to do
Speaker 2: on an everyday basis. In some of them probably not
Speaker 2: too far from your back door, right right about that?
Speaker 8: Oh absolutely, just even within your house or sometimes you know,
Speaker 8: like you said, you can go camping or tempting in
Speaker 8: your back yard. And that conception that had something to
Speaker 8: do before you die or once in a lifetime, things
Speaker 8: like world travel or skydiving or get that corvette.
Speaker 1: It's not just about that.
Speaker 8: A lot of that comes from the movie The bucket
Speaker 8: List that came out and it kind of got stereotyped
Speaker 8: to me and that, but it's really about defining what
Speaker 8: you want to do that makes you happy, and it's
Speaker 8: small things in life, visiting a new farmers market, taking
Speaker 8: a different route to work, seeing things that are in
Speaker 8: your own backyard, and Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of great things like that.
Speaker 2: No, absolutely, there's no question about that. And I do
Speaker 2: think that a lot of times people though, stop doing that.
Speaker 2: They don't live in the moment. They live for the
Speaker 2: other things that we talked about just a while ago.
Speaker 2: So if somebody is like that and we're thinking, oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, a bucket list, you know, I got to
Speaker 2: worry about paying tuition for my kid next month. Now,
Speaker 2: what would you.
Speaker 8: Tell them, Well, it's stopped starting small. It's like I said,
Speaker 8: you can start just thinking about what's in your neighborhood.
Speaker 8: It's one thing about AI right now. You can go
Speaker 8: on to a open AI chat GBT and say, what's
Speaker 8: in my town that I may not be aware of
Speaker 8: that is kind of bucket lists worthy. And you start
Speaker 8: getting ideas and most people find out, Yeah, I've never
Speaker 8: been to these places. I haven't taken pictures here, I
Speaker 8: haven't gone to these restaurants.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 8: So there's that's that's how a bucket list starts, is
Speaker 8: just trying to pick out some things.
Speaker 1: That you enjoy doing.
Speaker 8: And I often say this, there's a hundred there's hundreds
Speaker 8: of different categories, not to mention thousands of items that
Speaker 8: can go in those categories. That are you know, traveling
Speaker 8: the world is great, but it doesn't have to be there,
Speaker 8: And it says and bucket listing doesn't have to cost
Speaker 8: a lot of money or anything at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, is it too simple to cause? Does it call
Speaker 2: something like that reason for living?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 8: I think that's one of the things that a bucket
Speaker 8: listen still is reason for living, you know, a lot
Speaker 8: of times I'm working with my clients and I'm saying,
Speaker 8: you know, we're all here from point A to point B.
Speaker 1: It's and in between. What are you going to do
Speaker 1: with that? You know?
Speaker 8: And again I go back to my father, who you know,
Speaker 8: I think he was the first person who told me,
Speaker 8: don't fear dying, fear not living.
Speaker 1: And he was you know, I grew.
Speaker 8: Up in a lower middle class neighborhood and he was
Speaker 8: a printer for the state. But you know, he's done
Speaker 8: amazing things. You know, he has had terminal cancer for
Speaker 8: his last seventeen years, and he did more in that
Speaker 8: seventeen years than he's done his entire life, and that
Speaker 8: most people will ever do so.
Speaker 2: And probably added years to his life. I would guess, oh,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, somebody. If somebody's diagnosed with cancer, immediately, you know,
Speaker 2: the rain starts just starts pouring on top of them.
Speaker 2: And for good reason. I'm not suggesting that, right, it
Speaker 2: wouldn't be a good reason, but I think if you
Speaker 2: have something to live for, then that may extend your
Speaker 2: quality of life. It may not extend your life, it'll
Speaker 2: extend the quality of your life. And who knows, well,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, my gosh, you're a neuropsychiatrist.
Speaker 5: What is that?
Speaker 6: I have heard of a psychiatrist? What is a neuropsychiatrist?
Speaker 8: Well, first, I'm a psychiatrist, and you know, I work
Speaker 8: with people who have all different types of mental health issues,
Speaker 8: whether it's just depression, anxiety. I do a lot of
Speaker 8: work with eating disorders and bipolar disorder. But a neuropsychiatrist
Speaker 8: is also working with people with cognitive issues that are
Speaker 8: related to how the brain works and functions. And that's why, like,
Speaker 8: when I was looking into this whole concept of how
Speaker 8: I was living with a bucket list and everything, I
Speaker 8: want to understand, well, what's the brain do with all
Speaker 8: of this? And that's kind of the key difference that
Speaker 8: a lot of people are completely unaware of is it's
Speaker 8: a workout for the brain. It has this anti aging
Speaker 8: quality that's as important as eating the right foods, exercising.
Speaker 2: Oh so okay, so that's interest an anti agent quality.
Speaker 2: So what else what a bucket list do? From what
Speaker 2: you've come to know for the brain? What else would
Speaker 2: it do for Because you know, all a firm believers
Speaker 2: a layman that if it's not working upstairs, chances are
Speaker 2: the rest of what you got isn't working either, and
Speaker 2: you won't be long for this earth. So okay, So
Speaker 2: what does besides you know, hopefully holding off the anti
Speaker 2: aging process. What else?
Speaker 6: What a bucket list or quote unquote something to look
Speaker 6: forward do to the brain.
Speaker 1: Well, it's it really starts to work.
Speaker 8: The brain likes when you give it something new, and
Speaker 8: I'm always using the word novelty, something different. So whether
Speaker 8: it's a new food, a new street, a new coffee,
Speaker 8: a new experience, it's the brain starts to release dopamine
Speaker 8: and our reward pathways espential, especially you know the ones
Speaker 8: that sometimes makes us feel very happy, and dopamine is
Speaker 8: the brain's way of saying, do more of that. So
Speaker 8: over time, these little bursts strengthens our memory circuits and
Speaker 8: it increases what's called neuroplacity neuroplasticity just a fancy way
Speaker 8: of saying, you know, your brain rewires itself to stay younger, sharper,
Speaker 8: more resilient. So it works on other regions too, because
Speaker 8: when people kind of settle in into their comfort zone, you're
Speaker 8: not forcing the brain to work out all its potential.
Speaker 8: The same way if someone was lifting ten pound weights
Speaker 8: and then after a while, they get used to it,
Speaker 8: but never push that. They're never going to expand that
Speaker 8: muscle and the brain. We need to do the same
Speaker 8: thing with is keep working it out and expanding it
Speaker 8: and living with a bucket list and novelty is one
Speaker 8: of those ways.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know our culture, you know our society,
Speaker 2: people don't really want to leave their comfort zone. They
Speaker 2: don't really want to take that step. So my guess
Speaker 2: is part of what your practice is all about, and
Speaker 2: part of what the neuroscience of a bucket list. Getting
Speaker 2: the most from your brain in life your book is
Speaker 2: all about, is getting people outside that comfort zone mentally,
Speaker 2: certainly physically as well, But I would guess mentally, you know,
Speaker 2: start taking on more as you mentioned, more challenges for
Speaker 2: your brain and exercise it as you would any other muscle.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, the rain does like to settle into
Speaker 8: this comfort zone. It's very cozy, but it kind of
Speaker 8: prevents future growth. And when everything is predictable, the brain
Speaker 8: gets lazy. Neuropathways they kind of like become these old
Speaker 8: ruts in the dirt road. They're deep, they're familiar, they're rigid,
Speaker 8: and the rewards circuits quiet down. So that's when people
Speaker 8: start feeling stuck or anxious or bored. It's not because
Speaker 8: life is bad, but because nothing is stretching the brain anymore.
Speaker 2: Doctor Jeffrey Disarbo is our guest. He is the bucket
Speaker 2: list Doctor. You can find him at bucket listdoctor dot com.
Speaker 2: So when someone goes to bucket listdoctor dot com, what
Speaker 2: do they get.
Speaker 1: Well, it's a site that I've recently revamped.
Speaker 8: It has information, of course, about who I am and everything,
Speaker 8: but I have information about the brain as it relates
Speaker 8: to bucket lists, planning, goal setting. I've been writing more
Speaker 8: and more blogs.
Speaker 1: I think the.
Speaker 8: Last one I had was how therapy itself can be
Speaker 8: a bucket list item.
Speaker 1: How I wrote an.
Speaker 8: Article on Helen, Heaven and Hell on Earth, eight places
Speaker 8: that are almost impossible to go to, but that entirely impossible.
Speaker 8: So it really is something to kind of stimulate people
Speaker 8: to think about life, how they want to maybe pursue
Speaker 8: it differently, how you know, just to think out of
Speaker 8: the box in today's world, because, like I said, we're
Speaker 8: kind of getting the brain's getting programmed to be a
Speaker 8: pretty negative thing if all we do is fall into
Speaker 8: that path of you know, listening to what people tell
Speaker 8: us how bad it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I mean you can find you know, do
Speaker 2: them and gloom anywhere on any level, on any platform,
Speaker 2: right in that. Yeah, the neuroscience of a bucket list
Speaker 2: getting the most from your brain and life. Doctor Jeffrey Disarbo,
Speaker 2: I think you you might have helped some people today,
Speaker 2: and for a doctor, if you'll, hope if you just
Speaker 2: help one person today, you've done your job, right.
Speaker 1: That's that's all I set up to do.
Speaker 8: I'll do what I can and same for you, you know,
Speaker 8: And you're bringing this to them. I hope they're graceful
Speaker 8: and see, Oh what a bucket listing. I heard this
Speaker 8: story today.
Speaker 2: Let's do this again. And I don't say that capriciously.
Speaker 2: I love to talk to you again. Thank you, doctors,
Speaker 2: stay well, we need to hear your voice.
Speaker 1: Okay, absolutely, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Ken you bet there you find it. Neuropsychiatrists, we found
Speaker 2: out what that's all about. Bucket list. Neuroscience of a
Speaker 2: bucket list, getting the most from your brain in life.
Speaker 2: Who doesn't want to get the most out of life?
Speaker 2: If not, what are we doing here? Same question I
Speaker 2: asked at the end of the last half hour. What
Speaker 2: are we doing here? People often asked that about me.
Speaker 2: Twelve fifty five News Radio, seven hundred w WELW.
Speaker 6: All right, one O nine on this Wednesday, one O
Speaker 6: nine on this Wednesday.
Speaker 2: Good afternoon. So we brace for more cold weather. We're
Speaker 2: bracing for the teens tomorrow. Why do I feel like
Speaker 2: that will seem like summer in about a month? Hey,
Speaker 2: look at Cincinnati, just wait a while. The weather is
Speaker 2: going to change. It's gonna get cold tomorrow, and then
Speaker 2: it'll warm up and we'll all get sick because there'll
Speaker 2: be the crud in the air. And then before you
Speaker 2: know it, it'll be January. Everybody will be shut in
Speaker 2: because a huge blizzard is hit. And then February, Oh come,
Speaker 2: we'll all get trick. We'll be at on the golf
Speaker 2: course in early February, then some more snow, and then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it's Opening Day, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2: That is the next four months in a nutshell. But
Speaker 2: that's why we like it. That's why we stay here,
Speaker 2: because it's so much fun. I was going through the
Speaker 2: internets last night with Bush forty one, and I found
Speaker 2: this a gallop kettering survey of more than twenty thousand Americans,
Speaker 2: significant number, twenty thousand of US. It shows broad agreement
Speaker 2: on the foundational Democrat principles, things like life, liberty, the
Speaker 2: pursuit of happiness, things that this country was founded upon,
Speaker 2: a lot of the ability for government to stay out
Speaker 2: of our lives. So all of that was in this report,
Speaker 2: and then I found this that was interesting. Over eighty
Speaker 2: percent of you, me, everybody else reject political violence. Now
Speaker 2: I'd like to talk to the other twenty percent and
Speaker 2: exactly what they're thinking about political violence and why they
Speaker 2: think that's a good way to get anything done. But nevertheless,
Speaker 2: the overwhelming majority of people are like you and me,
Speaker 2: and we believe that compromise in government should be at
Speaker 2: the forefront, not digging your heels in, not yelling and
Speaker 2: spitting at the other side, but a way to get
Speaker 2: the business of running this country done. That's why these nitwits,
Speaker 2: and that's all they are, basically, the nitwits in Congress,
Speaker 2: the nitwits in the Senate. That's why we send them
Speaker 2: to Washington, DC. To get the business of the country done.
Speaker 2: Not to appear on cable TV news shows, not to
Speaker 2: put out fancy tweets, not to do deep dives into idiotic,
Speaker 2: stupid things that have nothing more than politics as their base.
Speaker 2: We just want this. And I thought it would be
Speaker 2: interesting to get onto this program today somebody who came
Speaker 2: to this country legally and came here because he thought
Speaker 2: the American dream was the ultimate dream. Anyone could have
Speaker 2: the ability to be themselves and do anything they want
Speaker 2: to try and make their lives better. And if eighty
Speaker 2: percent of us agree that political violence is not good,
Speaker 2: and more than a larger number than that believe that
Speaker 2: the foundational democratic principles of our country are the things
Speaker 2: that we should base all of what we do on.
Speaker 2: And I thought there would be no better guests than
Speaker 2: a man I had on this show. I want to
Speaker 2: say it was about two or three months ago. His
Speaker 2: name is Peter Lemage, and he is a political strategist,
Speaker 2: an attorney, and he emigrated to this country from a
Speaker 2: communist country, Albania, and he got to the United States
Speaker 2: and he got here and he wanted to do what
Speaker 2: would make this country better and has a very firm
Speaker 2: view of what that may be or may not be,
Speaker 2: and why that this is still regardless of everything that
Speaker 2: you may hear on all of the cable news shows
Speaker 2: the hilarity that evolves there. This is still the greatest
Speaker 2: country in the world. So it's with great honor and
Speaker 2: with a little bit of excitement. As always, we welcome
Speaker 2: in the aforementioned Peter homage. How are you on this
Speaker 2: glorious Wednesday.
Speaker 1: I'm doing well. Thank you for having me, sir.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you're back with us, because I think we
Speaker 2: need to hear your voice. I look at this Gallup
Speaker 2: Kettering survey, twenty thousand Americans. That's a fairly large poll,
Speaker 2: and it shows that we all agree on something, or
Speaker 2: most of us do eight and ten of us do
Speaker 2: we agree on the fundamental Democrat principles. Over eighty percent
Speaker 2: reject political violence, support compromise in government, and the US
Speaker 2: benefits from a mix of race, cultures, and religions. This
Speaker 2: is America that I know. I don't know what the
Speaker 2: other twenty percent are doing. I can't speak for them,
Speaker 2: but this is the America I know and love. So
Speaker 2: why is America teetering on so many different issues at
Speaker 2: this point in time? Why does this survey say one
Speaker 2: thing and we seem to see something completely different in
Speaker 2: real life?
Speaker 9: Look, the most important thing to realize here is that
Speaker 9: if we disregard the mainstream media, the academia, the politicians
Speaker 9: sometimes and elected officials, I don't think that Americans wake
Speaker 9: up in the morning disliking each other. I don't think
Speaker 9: that Americans wake up in the morning thinking that I'm
Speaker 9: going to dislike or hate someone because they look different
Speaker 9: from the way I look, or they believe or they
Speaker 9: pray in a different way than I do. Americans are
Speaker 9: very common sensical people. We like each other, We like ornaborhoods,
Speaker 9: we like our schools. We want to have safe neighborhoods.
Speaker 9: We want to have lower taxes. We want a government
Speaker 9: that functions. We want the government to leave us alone.
Speaker 9: And these are the common sensical Americans, regardless of the
Speaker 9: small or little differences between us as ordinary folks.
Speaker 1: The problem is the mainstream media.
Speaker 9: There is always trying to drive a wedge between or
Speaker 9: amongst people who may look or sound or feel different
Speaker 9: from each other. The same thing with the academia. The
Speaker 9: same thing sometimes would be elected officials because they benefit
Speaker 9: from this. But ordinary posts like you and I and
Speaker 9: we're just we have no problems with our neighbors being
Speaker 9: there for each other, helping each other getting together, all
Speaker 9: of us celebrated as something that is typical American. We
Speaker 9: wish each other, you know, merry Christmas, happy things, giving
Speaker 9: all these but when it comes to the media, they
Speaker 9: tell us, well, no, no, you should say happy Holidays
Speaker 9: is not Christmas. We don't pay attention to these differences
Speaker 9: that the media emphasiz.
Speaker 1: Up on us. And I'm so happy to see this poll.
Speaker 9: I'll be frank with you that it is one of
Speaker 9: the rare times that I really felt very comfortable to
Speaker 9: see these Americans like you and I coming together and
Speaker 9: saying that we don't care. But the differences that all
Speaker 9: this are emphasising up on us, they do not exist.
Speaker 9: We respect each other's you know, differences, but we respect Americanism.
Speaker 1: And that is this is good news. It is good news.
Speaker 2: It is Peter. It is eighty percent reject political violence.
Speaker 2: And yet then in October a poll came out that
Speaker 2: was done by PBS News and NPR. Of course, every
Speaker 2: time I see PBS, I tend to discount it. It
Speaker 2: is a deeply liberal organization. And then NPR gets involved
Speaker 2: in it, and it really takes it down the liberal drain.
Speaker 2: But what it says there is nearly a third of
Speaker 2: Americans thirty three percent now believe political violence may be
Speaker 2: necessary to get the country back on track. That's right.
Speaker 2: That was on the heels of the Charlie Kirk assassination
Speaker 2: in Utah. And I'm just wondering as we look at
Speaker 2: these poles, which one should we believe, which are corrupt?
Speaker 2: And what is truly going on in our country? Is
Speaker 2: it what you and I just talked about, Because how
Speaker 2: can you have this gallop pole and then have an
Speaker 2: NPR PBS poll that's not even a month and a
Speaker 2: half old that says that thirty three percent believe political
Speaker 2: violence may be necessary to get the country back on track.
Speaker 2: What's going on here?
Speaker 9: Well, I believe that certain poles are conducted with the
Speaker 9: intent of shape in the perception of there, the public
Speaker 9: perception of there, and PBS is one of them.
Speaker 1: The latter pole should be the ones.
Speaker 9: That I firmly believe we should trust and looking to
Speaker 9: more seriously, because, as I said, ordinary Americans like you
Speaker 9: and I, they don't care much what PBS said. But Kevin,
Speaker 9: you know certain polls indicating that Americans believe in political violence.
Speaker 9: I don't think we should even promote that we should
Speaker 9: even make that a public news for whatever reason. But
Speaker 9: I don't believe they do. I live amongst Americans every
Speaker 9: single day. I wasn't born and raised in this country.
Speaker 9: I have yet to see anyone any American boar citizens
Speaker 9: dislike me, or dislike my family, or threatened me or
Speaker 9: going after me and my family because we speak with
Speaker 9: an accent, because we were not born here, because we
Speaker 9: moved into their neighborhoods. As a matter of fact, I've
Speaker 9: seen love, I've seen caring, I've seen admiration. I've seen
Speaker 9: people come into our health and assistant and when we
Speaker 9: moved into their neighborhoods in Pairfield, Henrickett, they came to
Speaker 9: my house with cookies and wine and you name it,
Speaker 9: and walks out there well than me and my family there.
Speaker 9: And you know, I'm really thankful that generally speaking, most
Speaker 9: Americans are the way that they are descrubed in this
Speaker 9: letter fall instead of the previous one. So I still
Speaker 9: believe that Americans great, that the American people are great.
Speaker 1: They have a big heart.
Speaker 9: They look which is the greatest holidays that we celebrate
Speaker 9: over here, whether it's Thanksgiving, Christmas.
Speaker 1: You name it.
Speaker 9: Then you see Americans coming together reading each other saying,
Speaker 9: you know, happy Holidays or Merry Christmas, or Happy New
Speaker 9: Year or whatever we say.
Speaker 1: And if you look the.
Speaker 9: Smile that you see in their faces. And sometimes, as
Speaker 9: I said, we have to turn up the media. I
Speaker 9: just say, you know something, disregard what the media saying.
Speaker 9: Our neighbors are great, our people are great, Americans are great.
Speaker 9: Let's celebrate what brings us together, which is Americanism, which
Speaker 9: is our Judea of Christian values, which is Constitution, which
Speaker 9: is the founding documents of this country.
Speaker 1: I mean, we have so many things in common.
Speaker 9: That we have to celebrate instead of following these falls
Speaker 9: that indicate that everything that we stand for separates us.
Speaker 1: That is not true, and I don't believe it. For
Speaker 1: a second.
Speaker 2: Scallop pole, the one that survey twenty thousand people, it
Speaker 2: had something interesting in it. It said over the past
Speaker 2: twenty five years, which would be since calendar year two thousand,
Speaker 2: since five since since twenty five years. In the last
Speaker 2: twenty five years, forty nine percent of the people's surveyed
Speaker 2: believe that cultural change in the US has happened too fast,
Speaker 2: which means that fifty one percent thinks that it was
Speaker 2: just right. So we're kind of split fifty to fifty
Speaker 2: there on cultural change. Do you think cultural change has
Speaker 2: happened too fast over the course of the last twenty
Speaker 2: five years. It would lead me to believe you would,
Speaker 2: because close to two thirds of Republicans sixty four percent,
Speaker 2: think that cultural change did happen too fast over the
Speaker 2: last twenty five years. Has it happened, in your opinion,
Speaker 2: too quickly?
Speaker 1: I think it did. And this is one one thing
Speaker 1: that I.
Speaker 9: Agree with the full deathok having a cultural change happening
Speaker 9: quickly and bringing people to unlistates who may not be compatible.
Speaker 1: With the values that we have here.
Speaker 9: In certain groups are refusing to assimilate and embrace the
Speaker 9: values that we have here. They are trying to impose
Speaker 9: their values that they bring from their countries upon the
Speaker 9: American people. I mean, this is something that we have
Speaker 9: to look into, the kind of immigration that we have,
Speaker 9: the kind of people that are coming to United States.
Speaker 9: But this is not the first time that we have
Speaker 9: seen this kind of transition in the United States.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you go way back when the Irish.
Speaker 9: Came to the United States, they pay face challenges with
Speaker 9: the Italians game to the United States. They did face
Speaker 9: certain challenges, but there were different kinds of breed, if
Speaker 9: you will, for lack of better term, that they were
Speaker 9: willing to embrace the American values and assimilate into these
Speaker 9: values and become good Americans and serve the country, join
Speaker 9: the military, join.
Speaker 1: The political right.
Speaker 9: Whatever they did, they became American Americans. Now, we have
Speaker 9: certain groups that are coming to United States that they
Speaker 9: are being enticed. Our government is enticing them to come
Speaker 9: to United States for the benefits that we offer them
Speaker 9: instead of Americanism.
Speaker 1: For example, you live in Connecticut right now and.
Speaker 9: You're illegal, you get it with forty thousand dollars a
Speaker 9: year for doing nothing. You get free housing, you get
Speaker 9: re education. They will get your driver's license, you know.
Speaker 9: I mean, it pays to be illegal in the United
Speaker 9: States right now, and this is something that we have
Speaker 9: to stop. You want to come to United States legally,
Speaker 9: there's a process. You follow that process. My family and
Speaker 9: I did that. I mean my brothers and I will
Speaker 9: remained or were held in a concentration camp or refugee camp.
Speaker 9: It was a refugee camp for eleven months to be
Speaker 9: processed to come to United States legally and at that time,
Speaker 9: you needed a sponsor and you conducted. We were submitted
Speaker 9: to background investigation. They wanted to make sure that we
Speaker 9: were at criminals or terrorists or whatever it comes they
Speaker 9: were using, and they wanted to make sure that we
Speaker 9: were coming to United States to be Americans.
Speaker 1: And I'm proud we did that and faifully, batfully waited.
Speaker 1: I mean, we had no problems to wait for that
Speaker 1: staff period of time.
Speaker 9: Nowadays, people would come to UNIE the States, and the
Speaker 9: following day that they come here, they're looking for the
Speaker 9: benefits that we shouldn't offered to them.
Speaker 1: Say yeah, there are certain concerns that we.
Speaker 9: Should have it, but you know the kind of immigration
Speaker 9: that we have, you know, allowed to come.
Speaker 1: Here in the past twenty five years or so.
Speaker 2: And this is something else that I found interesting. Americans
Speaker 2: who divided evenly about whether or not the government or
Speaker 2: themselves should be responsible for making sure that their basic
Speaker 2: needs are met. Forty eight percent said government, fifty percent
Speaker 2: said themselves. The younger demo, the eighteen to twenty nine crowd,
Speaker 2: sixty three percent said it should be the government. To me,
Speaker 2: that's walking dangerously down the road to socialism. Is that
Speaker 2: a march down the road to socialism.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yes it did. Americans should remember one thing. When
Speaker 9: we hit the government shut down a few weeks ago,
Speaker 9: everybody was complaining that we cannot feed certain amount of people,
Speaker 9: a number of people. They should remember that the government
Speaker 9: can feed you. The government can start you. If the
Speaker 9: government controlled the way your life, the way you live
Speaker 9: your life, the government can modify it, can change it.
Speaker 9: I mean we shouldn't you know. The difference between the
Speaker 9: United States and other countries is this. We believe that
Speaker 9: our rights are god given rights life, liberty, in pursuit
Speaker 9: of happiness. The founding part is made that were on
Speaker 9: the Declaration of Independence. Then we rute the constitution to
Speaker 9: make sure that these god given rights are protected from
Speaker 9: the government. Because we knew that, or they knew that
Speaker 9: the government can violate these god given rights that we have.
Speaker 9: No other country in the work has this. And if
Speaker 9: we allow the government to become part of every part
Speaker 9: of every aspect of our life, this is something that
Speaker 9: is moving towards a socialistic government.
Speaker 1: And we don't need that.
Speaker 9: That is not compatible with the American system that we have.
Speaker 9: Republicans and constitutionalism gives everyone an opportunity to succeed. It
Speaker 9: doesn't guarantee you equal result, but it guarantees you equal opportunity.
Speaker 9: And if we get eco opportunity, anyone can pursue that
Speaker 9: to achieve their greatness based on his God or her
Speaker 9: God given ability.
Speaker 1: And this is what we appreciate.
Speaker 9: Refugees like me and my brothers and my family when
Speaker 9: we come to United States, we appreciate the opportunity. We're
Speaker 9: not looking for anything else. If I may give you
Speaker 9: an example, when my brothers gave to the United States
Speaker 9: and we landed at JFK, there was a lady who
Speaker 9: approached us with an interpreter and we were as to
Speaker 9: sign certain forms to join the welfare system to get
Speaker 9: certain benefits.
Speaker 1: We didn't know what that meant.
Speaker 9: My brother Tony said, no, no, no, we didn't come
Speaker 9: here for government candoubts. We came here for the American opportunity,
Speaker 9: for the American dream. You cannot achieved the American opportunity
Speaker 9: and the American dream.
Speaker 1: Well, the government help.
Speaker 9: If the government is guiding you, he sa impose it
Speaker 9: stuff on you. You have to do it on your own.
Speaker 9: And the way in your own is when the government
Speaker 9: stays out of your life. And I hope that Americans
Speaker 9: appreciate the fact that we hit an e raded government
Speaker 9: with um rated powers.
Speaker 1: Important.
Speaker 9: We're very clear that the government should never have more
Speaker 9: than these enumerated powers, and we're losing that and we
Speaker 9: should lose it.
Speaker 2: Well, Peter Lamage, we need more people like you in
Speaker 2: this country, not less. And your thoughts here today on
Speaker 2: this I think are really terrific. Peter Lemage, how do
Speaker 2: people find you? You're a strategist, you're an attorney, You're
Speaker 2: a graduate of the Cardozos School of Law. How do
Speaker 2: people find Peter Lomage.
Speaker 1: I'm at Peter Lamage dot com. That's the website. The
Speaker 1: other platforms are there.
Speaker 9: I really appreciate this, and Happy thanks Giving, Merry Christmas
Speaker 9: if we don't talk before, and then happy New Year
Speaker 9: as well.
Speaker 2: All right, Peter, good stuff and stay well. We need
Speaker 2: to hear your voice. Thank you, thank you, sir, Yes, sir, yes, sir. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: twenty thousand Americans eighty percent reject political violence. Love to
Speaker 2: know what the other twenty percent or thinking one twenty
Speaker 2: six on this Wednesday, it's the average American in for
Speaker 2: the Great American Glad you're with us to seven hundred wlw.
Speaker 9: Oh hello, hello, quiet, I'm Skulls.
Speaker 1: I'm broadcasting you bully.
Speaker 2: God shake. You look disappointed that I'm here and not
Speaker 2: your boy Willie. Are you disappointed? Seriously? No, you're happy?
Speaker 6: Well, I mean he's uh, he's in Florida. Probably look
Speaker 6: looking at what an eight nine foot going left or
Speaker 6: into his right, and probably you know, a couple couple
Speaker 6: of big dollars are on the line, probably two bucks
Speaker 6: a putt eight foot out.
Speaker 2: It's probably a three foot for him.
Speaker 6: Or he's he's taken a nap and getting ready for
Speaker 6: the cafeteria today.
Speaker 2: I understand it's chip beef. That's four o'clock. Maybe you
Speaker 2: got to get there between four and five. Everything is creamed.
Speaker 6: Everything you can take corn, take your dentures out and
Speaker 6: suck it down. Ken Brew the stooge reporters of Proud Service,
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Speaker 2: You know, I think I see those Baker guys in
Speaker 2: there at Little Miami. Did I tell you I think
Speaker 2: I've seen like their shirt wearing their shirts. I think
Speaker 2: I've seen them.
Speaker 6: There Ken Brew, Ken Rosenthal and also Mark Sheldon is
Speaker 6: reporting that the Reds are in have a serious interest
Speaker 6: in one Kyle Schwarber and he is interested in a
Speaker 6: potential homecoming.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see what happens. They don't have the money.
Speaker 2: I will to think they'd have the money, but I mean,
Speaker 2: from what I'm reading here in this athletic report, he's
Speaker 2: looking five years, one hundred and forty five million. Is
Speaker 2: what are you looking at? And with the Reds only
Speaker 2: having about twenty million to spend. You know, since Martinez
Speaker 2: took a hike, I we'll see the Mets are in
Speaker 2: play for him as well. So we'll see.
Speaker 6: Let's see Hot Stove League tonight six oh five here
Speaker 6: on seven hundred WLW Pitcher Reet Lauder will be the
Speaker 6: special guest. Well, that's good college basketball. Miami goes to
Speaker 6: seven and oh they beat IU East last night. Dayton
Speaker 6: is seven and two after beating East Tennessee State, North
Speaker 6: Carolina got by Kentucky at Reperna sixty seven sixty four.
Speaker 2: That was a hell of a game. Wildcats are five
Speaker 2: and three. Yeah.
Speaker 6: NKU opens Horizon League play tonight, opening up and up
Speaker 6: against Cleveland State six point thirty, Fox Sports thirteen sixty.
Speaker 2: Wright State goes on again. It takes on Youngstown State.
Speaker 6: Let's see cross that skyline Chili Crossdown shootout update brought
Speaker 6: to you heartby Cincinnati Tech Resolution power by Tove Sheldon.
Speaker 6: Of course, the big game is Friday night, Cintas Center.
Speaker 6: The Bearcats, the the Muskies.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Seg. I mean, I've looked at Zabers
Speaker 2: playing a lot better lately. Yes, they are the Bearcats.
Speaker 2: They sputter, They look good one night the next night,
Speaker 2: and it depends on who they play. Now, obviously all
Speaker 2: this depends on who they play. But I know there
Speaker 2: is great, great nervousness in Clifton. There's a lot of
Speaker 2: nervousness there.
Speaker 6: Let's see high school football. It's Anderson, the Raptors up
Speaker 6: against Avon tomorrow. Talking about the fans, Seg. Not necessarily
Speaker 6: the team talk about the fans. You're going Thursday seven
Speaker 6: o'clock Division two State football Championship, a rematch of last
Speaker 6: year's final, and the Raptors are looking to go one
Speaker 6: game better.
Speaker 2: As the Raptors back then? Was that ever the Anderson Redskins?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 2: But last year? But last year they were the Raptors.
Speaker 2: I mean that all that stuff happened.
Speaker 6: Okay, Division one state final course on Friday night, seven
Speaker 6: thirty and beautiful Canton.
Speaker 2: It'll be Saint X and Olan tangy Orange. I heard
Speaker 2: Rockney's given the pregame peptar.
Speaker 5: How about that?
Speaker 2: So I heard that. I don't know if it's true,
Speaker 2: but I heard that. I heard that today at lunch.
Speaker 2: Let's see college football.
Speaker 6: Ohio State offensive coordinator Brian Hartline expected to be named
Speaker 6: the next head coach at South Florida.
Speaker 2: That's a blow. That's a blow to the boys, leaving
Speaker 2: the Buckeyes right wide receiver. You in Columbus.
Speaker 6: Let's see Bengals update, brought to you by Good Spirits,
Speaker 6: wine and Tobacco and Party Town. Bengals quarterback Caan Anderson
Speaker 6: now a finalist the Pro Football Hall of Fame class
Speaker 6: of twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: The other finalists include Bill Belichick, Robert Kraft, Roger Craig
Speaker 6: and L. C.
Speaker 2: Greenwood. You know Anderson should have been in like ten
Speaker 2: years ago.
Speaker 5: Correct?
Speaker 6: They can only take one of that entire group, only
Speaker 6: one gets to go in, and everybody's thinking it's going
Speaker 6: to be Belichick.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean it's tough, but if I'm
Speaker 2: reading this correctly, only one from the entire group that
Speaker 2: we just mentioned is eligible.
Speaker 6: Also Bengals cour Bengals kicker Evan McPherson Moneymack is the
Speaker 6: AFC Special Teams Player of the Week, where his efforts
Speaker 6: in the win over Go Baltimore last Thanksgiving ninety perfect
Speaker 6: six for six and field goals and two for two
Speaker 6: and pat.
Speaker 2: Just make the one that counts, because you know that
Speaker 2: one's coming up. It's going to be like a two
Speaker 2: point lead they have to erase. Just make the one
Speaker 2: that counts, correct, Nobody cares about piling on. Make the
Speaker 2: one that counts.
Speaker 6: Let's see soccer. Former Mount Notre Dame star and NWSL
Speaker 6: champion Rose Levelle nominated for the US Soccer Female Player
Speaker 6: of the Year award. Wow, that's that's an honor just
Speaker 6: to be nominated for about that. That's that's pretty strong.
Speaker 6: I think it's next week they announced the winner. So
Speaker 6: years ago tonight, you know what happened.
Speaker 2: It was the Who concert concert yehund Front Coliseum forty
Speaker 2: six years ago, tonight, forty six years ago right now,
Speaker 2: eleven people were still alive.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 2: And that of course changed the way people attended concerts
Speaker 2: in this town. Really everywhere, I mean, festival seating was
Speaker 2: banned and everything was like that. I forget how many
Speaker 2: years ago it might have been. Five years ago. What
Speaker 2: Toddy O'Rourke had a great special on that whole thing,
Speaker 2: talked to talk to Pete Townsend, talked to Keith Moon,
Speaker 2: not Keith Moon, Keith Townsend and Roger Daltrey. Roger Daltrey,
Speaker 2: thank you. I saw that.
Speaker 6: I remember, I remember when I saw that this morning,
Speaker 6: I thought, you know what, I remember her talking to
Speaker 6: them and that band was that band was really affected
Speaker 6: by the whole thing. They I guess they figured they
Speaker 6: said they shouldn't it should have never went to the
Speaker 6: next town.
Speaker 2: You know, I produced my share of documentaries in my time,
Speaker 2: and I've seen a lot done. That might have been
Speaker 2: the best documentary I've ever seen.
Speaker 5: Great.
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, maybe they'll rerun that tonight. I don't know,
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know who knows. Seguy forty six years
Speaker 2: ago tonight was you know, one of those knights that
Speaker 2: live in the proverbial infamy. That's what it is. Unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Seg well, you're doing well, you look well, you go,
Speaker 2: you're going there. We've got the big client party here today.
Speaker 2: Are you going to that?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You're yeah. What do you think we're going to have?
Speaker 2: What do you think we're going to have?
Speaker 1: Here?
Speaker 6: Say?
Speaker 2: What kind of food? Because they've got it under wraps,
Speaker 2: They've got like four salespeople guarding it right now.
Speaker 6: I think it's going to be prime rib, primary green beans,
Speaker 6: mashed potatoes.
Speaker 2: Wow, and a roll? You think prime reb?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 6: Well? Maybe on a smaller scale. I thought Arby's because
Speaker 6: it's right across the street.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 6: I was under ye, maybe maybe maybe the clients who
Speaker 6: have restaurants are bringing it in.
Speaker 2: I thought, maybe we're going to get some beef and cheddars.
Speaker 2: But you think it could be prime rib? No, I
Speaker 2: don't think so. Wow, that would Now, that would be
Speaker 2: a party, that's for sure. I once want to here.
Speaker 2: I will not name the station, but I want when
Speaker 2: it went to a Christmas party, Yes station that I
Speaker 2: worked for, sir, and they actually charged you admission to
Speaker 2: get in. I said, what everybody got there and it
Speaker 2: was ten dollars to get into your station Christmas party.
Speaker 2: Where'd they have it as some establishment or so they
Speaker 2: rented out. No, it was like this hotel and they
Speaker 2: and they rented a room out and you get to
Speaker 2: the door and there's the general manager's secretary is sitting
Speaker 2: at a table and she's pay her ten bucks cash
Speaker 2: to get in. I'm thinking, what a lot of people
Speaker 2: just say the hell with that. I'm going to the
Speaker 2: bar for ten bucks. This was a while back. Ten
Speaker 2: bucks you get like three beers, don't get any ideas,
Speaker 2: just saying, seig, the whole world's out of whack and
Speaker 2: it's a little rough one. We're the only ones in lockstep,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? That's for sure? Ken Brew
Speaker 2: is what is that aging veteran back here? I'm not
Speaker 2: in tomorrow? Is he in tomorrow?
Speaker 6: No, he's out until I think he comes back Saturday
Speaker 6: or Sunday.
Speaker 2: Right, okay, you bigger? He flies coach? Do you think
Speaker 2: he goes first class?
Speaker 6: I think he finally got that private plane that they
Speaker 6: offered him when he was doing his show in New York.
Speaker 2: Dis custom mate, and I think they finally they finally said,
Speaker 2: oh here take it. That's single engine prop right war exactly.
Speaker 6: Too, like one of those planes in Indiana. Jones SEG,
Speaker 6: that's all I got. You'll be back here in several minutes.
Speaker 6: I'll have more thoughts that I want to impart upon you.
Speaker 6: You got ken Brew, always got to talk to you.
Speaker 2: Well, think I got a good idea too. But get
Speaker 2: us out of this whatever this.
Speaker 6: Is it, we're in ken Brew and honor of this Wednesday,
Speaker 6: we leave you with the immortal words of the stood report.
Speaker 6: I have yet another vision that it was clear now
Speaker 6: and my crystallized cylindrical pulsating sphere right see a rope
Speaker 6: on man with cherry cheeks and a hearty laugh, prancing.
Speaker 11: About in the snow. No, it's not Santa Claus. It's
Speaker 11: Brian Kelly.
Speaker 5: The Wow.
Speaker 6: The writing on that show ken Brew should have won awards,
Speaker 6: and that show should have won yeah.
Speaker 2: Or it should have gotten or it should have gotten canceled,
Speaker 2: which is what happened.
Speaker 6: Bring them back, Bring them back, Go to me TV,
Speaker 6: bring bring back, bring back, bring back sports rock me
Speaker 6: all right, sig on seven hundred WLW to a wait
Speaker 6: News Radio seven hundred w l W. The average American
Speaker 6: and for the great American on this Wednesday. Glad you
Speaker 6: are with us as well well, if you're scoring and
Speaker 6: keeping track of these things. The next government shutdown is
Speaker 6: scheduled for January the thirtieth of next year. That would
Speaker 6: be January the thirtieth of the end of next month. Yes,
Speaker 6: the things that brought us forty days of living hell
Speaker 6: could rear its ugly head early in the new calendar year.
Speaker 6: And at the center of it all is funding for Obamacare.
Speaker 2: Now a little history. Obamacare was voted in, as you
Speaker 2: well know, and named after the president that was in
Speaker 2: office and pushed for it in the late two thousands,
Speaker 2: two thousand and nine, twenty ten somewhere in that area,
Speaker 2: and the Republicans, when they got control of the House
Speaker 2: in the Senate, tried to pare it down somewhat, the
Speaker 2: Skinny Bill. Of course, that famously resulted in John McCain
Speaker 2: walking down the aisle at the last moment and doing
Speaker 2: thumbs down. And so much for that, And Obamacare is
Speaker 2: basically chugged along, almost collapsing under its own weight ever since.
Speaker 2: But what shut down the government, according to the current
Speaker 2: group of Democrats, for forty days was the fact that
Speaker 2: these temporary subsidies that were put in place by the
Speaker 2: Biden administration in the wake of COVID make sure everybody
Speaker 2: who had Obamacare had enough money to get health care.
Speaker 2: They're expiring, and the current group of Democrats wanted those
Speaker 2: things to be part of a permanent deal. It's not
Speaker 2: a good idea, it doesn't make sense. In fact, it
Speaker 2: doesn't make sense to a lot of Democrats, but nevertheless
Speaker 2: that's what united them. Health Care in this country's broken.
Speaker 2: It's broken out a number of levels, not the least
Speaker 2: of which in Obamacare, but just on a number of
Speaker 2: different levels. But Obamacare is here. You're not going to
Speaker 2: get rid of it. You have to make it more
Speaker 2: palatable both to not only the people that are funding it,
Speaker 2: but the people that are using it. Can't vote against
Speaker 2: Santa Claus. You're not going to vote the thing out.
Speaker 2: So what are you going to do to to try
Speaker 2: and fix this thing? And what now will be a
Speaker 2: very short amount of time before what could be another
Speaker 2: government shutdown over this thing in about seven weeks. Standing
Speaker 2: by the way, in is the smartest man there is
Speaker 2: an America, in my opinion, when it comes to health care.
Speaker 2: He's written a book called the sixty percent solution rethinking healthcare.
Speaker 2: He's a good guest of this program. He is Todd Furnis. Todd,
Speaker 2: how are you on this glorious day?
Speaker 10: I am doing dandy, Ken, Thank you so much for
Speaker 10: having me today.
Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about how you fix
Speaker 2: Obamacare because it's been kicked down the road. Kicked down
Speaker 2: the road, Republicans seem to have no real plan. They've
Speaker 2: come up with something called the Health Reimbursement Arrangements HRA
Speaker 2: as an alternative to what the current system is. But
Speaker 2: the fact of the matter is it's not fixed. It's
Speaker 2: ready to implode, and the Democrats don't want to give
Speaker 2: up what they have. They want more money thrown into it.
Speaker 2: So Todd Furnis is now in charge of fixing Obamacare.
Speaker 2: Where do you start?
Speaker 10: Well, I would challenge the original thesis, which is Obamacare
Speaker 10: did not give anybody access to healthcare, not one person.
Speaker 10: Obamacare gave people an expensive way to pay insurance companies
Speaker 10: for insurance companies to pay for somebody else's medical expenses.
Speaker 1: And there's a big difference there.
Speaker 10: If I said, hey, Ken, I'd love for you to
Speaker 10: pay my bills, you would say, well, I ought to
Speaker 10: know what those bills are.
Speaker 1: Going to be, shouldn't I?
Speaker 10: And I said, well, yeah, but you got to take
Speaker 10: that chance because I don't know what the bills are
Speaker 10: going to be. Well, you say, well, I'm gonna have
Speaker 10: to build in a model that gives me a lot
Speaker 10: of wiggle room for the risks that I'm taking because
Speaker 10: you don't know what your bills are going to be,
Speaker 10: and I don't know what your bills are going to be,
Speaker 10: because remember, insurance is paying me in advance for something
Speaker 10: statistical and probably statistically improbable to occur to you. In
Speaker 10: other words, it's unlikely to happen to you, but if
Speaker 10: it does, I'm going to pay for it. And then
Speaker 10: then if I do pay for it, I've got to
Speaker 10: build in the overhead and I've also got to build
Speaker 10: in a margin to cover that expense. So what that
Speaker 10: means it is one out of one hundred percent of
Speaker 10: the time, it's going to be a lot more expensive
Speaker 10: for you to have somebody else pay your bills.
Speaker 1: I don't know when.
Speaker 10: You say I was the smartest guy in healthcare, I was.
Speaker 10: First of all, I got to tell you I was
Speaker 10: disappointed I was only in healthcare, but I don't think
Speaker 10: I'm smart at all. I think that's just really just
Speaker 10: basic walking around stuff. So you know, maybe we think
Speaker 10: about things differently here in Texas, but that's the way
Speaker 10: I think about it is it's always going to be
Speaker 10: more expensive if you have somebody else paid for it. Now,
Speaker 10: the reimbursement plan that is being kind of kicked around
Speaker 10: as saying, hey, you know what, this Obamacare thing doesn't
Speaker 10: make any sense. So what we're going to do is
Speaker 10: we're not going to pay the insurance companies the subsidies
Speaker 10: that are coming out of the Obamacare extension, because that's
Speaker 10: what they are. What they're doing is they're saying, we're
Speaker 10: going to pay the insurance companies directly to subsidize the
Speaker 10: healthcare you're getting to the corresponding ACA marketplace.
Speaker 1: Well, that doesn't make any sense either. What you're saying
Speaker 1: is these.
Speaker 10: Subsidies are essentially saying, I'm giving money directly to the
Speaker 10: insurance companies again to pay for the bills that you're
Speaker 10: going to incur.
Speaker 2: Right, So just I'll stop it. Can I just put
Speaker 2: the brakes on right here to explain what h ris are.
Speaker 5: This is.
Speaker 2: I guess the plan that some Republicans want. Basically, as
Speaker 2: I read it, it allows employers to set aside tax
Speaker 2: free dollars for their employees to use on medical expenses
Speaker 2: for themselves the families. The employer does not pay payroll
Speaker 2: taxes on the contribution, and it literally extracts what are
Speaker 2: basically direct payments to these health insurers. Am I right?
Speaker 10: Yes, Now it's a little bit The question you haven't
Speaker 10: asked is you said, hey, cod you know you kind
Speaker 10: of talk about this in your book one hundred years
Speaker 10: ago that you wrote, which is because it's.
Speaker 1: Very analogous to something called the fessay and the essay.
Speaker 10: So the fssay is a flexible spending account and that's
Speaker 10: another employer and employee funded opportunity to ask that question.
Speaker 2: I was going to ask that question next, Todd, but
Speaker 2: go ahead. I was about I was about to ask
Speaker 2: that question next, but you said as the question I was.
Speaker 6: Going to say, Todd, just give me a chance to
Speaker 6: get through these questions.
Speaker 2: Go ahead.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
Speaker 10: Well, we're on number five, and keep you if you're
Speaker 10: keeping support home. So the the health reimbursement is a
Speaker 10: little bit different because that's funded by the employer. The
Speaker 10: flexible spending account is primarily funded by the employee through
Speaker 10: pre tax payroll deductions, but employers can also contribute. The
Speaker 10: problem is that with an FSSA, if you don't use
Speaker 10: the money at the end of the by the end
Speaker 10: of the calendar year, it goes back to the employer.
Speaker 1: Right and uh by.
Speaker 10: Contrast with a health savings account, which is actually interview
Speaker 10: back in twenty three hundred George W.
Speaker 4: Bush by a.
Speaker 10: Guy named John Goodman, who is the guy who you are,
Speaker 10: was the architect of that. Without saving the account, you
Speaker 10: the employee gets to use the money and keep the money,
Speaker 10: and you can invest it in. The money stays the
Speaker 10: under the ownership of the employee, and it's also pre
Speaker 10: tax dollars, right, And who's putting the money in and
Speaker 10: who gets to keep it at the end of the year.
Speaker 2: And Obamacare basically prohibited hr is from being used to
Speaker 2: purchase coverage right for the individual, and then Trump put
Speaker 2: it back in in twenty nineteen, and then Biden didn't
Speaker 2: mess with it.
Speaker 1: So you may be the smartest guy in healthcare.
Speaker 2: God bought the smartest guy in healthcare.
Speaker 12: I just read your book.
Speaker 2: But the fact of the matter, the fact of the
Speaker 2: matter is it ain't working, and the Democrats wanted to
Speaker 2: put all of this, make all of these these emergency
Speaker 2: this emergency funding that occurred during COVID, they wanted to
Speaker 2: make them permanent. And even if people like the Congressional
Speaker 2: Budget Office said that if you extended those things, your
Speaker 2: deficit would probably go up three hundred and fifty to
Speaker 2: four hundred billion over ten years, and that another's probably
Speaker 2: fifty to sixty billion in interest costs. So that's not working,
Speaker 2: and they're probably going to come back with the same thing.
Speaker 2: So if you're if you're there and you've got the Republicans,
Speaker 2: you got the Democrats in the room, and you say, okay,
Speaker 2: Obamacare is not going to I mean, whatever it was,
Speaker 2: you're not going to vote against Santa Claus. Nobody wants that. Okay,
Speaker 2: Then how do we make this thing viable and something
Speaker 2: that isn't going to unplode from its own weight. What
Speaker 2: would you do.
Speaker 10: If you start up with a problem that is solved
Speaker 10: using bailing wire and duct tape, adding more bailing wire
Speaker 10: and duct tape is seldom a permanent conclusion. And so
Speaker 10: I have a problem with the premise, which is fixing Obamacare.
Speaker 10: You can't fix Obamacare. It's unfixable. That's the challenge. And
Speaker 10: so people have in their mind that Obamacare somehow was
Speaker 10: a good thing. I never believed that it never was
Speaker 10: a good thing, and so I think we need to
Speaker 10: sketch out a different plan. It starts with a different
Speaker 10: set of structures and incentives if.
Speaker 1: We want to. You know what, here's the other.
Speaker 10: Thing we have talked a lot about in the public
Speaker 10: commentary in the last several months about this guy in
Speaker 10: New York City called Mamdami, right, and we talked about
Speaker 10: socialism and what FDR did when he created this model
Speaker 10: of allowing corporations to deduct healthcare benefits as a business
Speaker 10: expense without taxing the recipient as compensation. What he really
Speaker 10: did was create another flavor of socialism called corporate socialism.
Speaker 10: He's moving the obligations of the individual not to the
Speaker 10: federal go because FIFTR knew he would never get that passed.
Speaker 10: He moved it to the corporation and said, hey, you
Speaker 10: the corporation are going to be responsible for this, and
Speaker 10: as a result, we're not taxed. The issue that nobody's
Speaker 10: talking about is this is in fact a form of compensation,
Speaker 10: but the individual employee is not getting tax on it. Yeah,
Speaker 10: And if you really wanted to solve the problem in
Speaker 10: a way that would make everybody uncomfortable and be kind
Speaker 10: very controversial, you say, no, let's recognize it for what
Speaker 10: it is.
Speaker 1: This is compensation to the employee. If you did that
Speaker 1: and employees paid.
Speaker 10: Tax on the compensation, down many on the benefits has compensation,
Speaker 10: it's about three quarters of a trillion dollars that would
Speaker 10: go back to the federal treasury.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's got that doesn't have legs politically. I mean,
Speaker 6: we know that.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no way that the Democrats are going
Speaker 2: to say, Okay, we're going to give you. You're going
Speaker 2: to have to pay tax now on this.
Speaker 10: But I can completely agree with that. I completely agree
Speaker 10: with that. But at the same time, you and people
Speaker 10: are saying, well, we have to find we have to
Speaker 10: fix it somehow. Okay, Well, fixing the catastrophe that is
Speaker 10: Obamacare is not going to be the answer because the
Speaker 10: yere's the other thing that's happening.
Speaker 1: And I think I may have shared this with you before, Ken.
Speaker 10: What we're also doing is in the public hospitals, we're
Speaker 10: moving the financial burden for those who have ACA plans
Speaker 10: to the local county taxpayer.
Speaker 1: So what's happening is because the ACA.
Speaker 10: Plans are typically high deductible, and the people who have
Speaker 10: those plans are typically unable to pay that deductible, then
Speaker 10: the county hospitals are only collecting about ten cents on
Speaker 10: the dollar of what they would get reimbursed if they
Speaker 10: were getting paid through Medicaid. So what's happening is you're saying, Okay,
Speaker 10: we want all this money, all these ACA plans. The
Speaker 10: Fed's going to subsidize some of that, but where the
Speaker 10: money's really coming out of is the county taxpayer at
Speaker 10: the local level.
Speaker 1: And nobody's talking about that.
Speaker 2: No, Well, you're the first that actually brought it up,
Speaker 2: at least on my show that that's going on. So okay,
Speaker 2: so Obamacare, okay, so we're fixing Obamacare here in the
Speaker 2: next three minutes. So what you're saying is Obamacare doesn't work.
Speaker 2: The premise of it was just flawed from jump, so
Speaker 2: we have to replace it. And these HRAs look encouraging.
Speaker 2: They do. I'm not sure you're going to get a
Speaker 2: lot of You're going to get political pushback for a
Speaker 2: lot of different reasons. Simply because it's an election year
Speaker 2: next year, and I don't know if you're going to
Speaker 2: be able to get everybody into a room and agree
Speaker 2: on this thing, but it's certainly something that is going
Speaker 2: to be very much in the political forefront for the
Speaker 2: off year elections. So the shout the loudest voices, as
Speaker 2: you well know Todd wind up on cable channels. But
Speaker 2: the people that get things done are people that you
Speaker 2: don't even know their names who they represent. So I'm
Speaker 2: just wondering, what do you think the chances are, I mean,
Speaker 2: realistic chances of getting this thing last sewed in so
Speaker 2: that the seven percent of Americans who actually use Obamacare
Speaker 2: insurance won't be left out in the cold and the
Speaker 2: rest of us won't be just taxed to the hilt
Speaker 2: to try and pay for it.
Speaker 10: Yeah, and you know, I go back to we've been
Speaker 10: having a conversation as a nation about healthcare and who
Speaker 10: pays for it for at least.
Speaker 1: Eighty years.
Speaker 2: I was going to say at least since the end
Speaker 2: of World War Two.
Speaker 10: Yeah, but he was actually Baylor down in Dallas where
Speaker 10: they were for fifty bucks a month they would take
Speaker 10: care of teachers, and so the first time the federal
Speaker 10: government ever got involved was actually under John Adams because
Speaker 10: we had sailors who were coming over with.
Speaker 1: Scurvy and they were incurring.
Speaker 10: Medical expenses, and so they were taxing five cent nickel
Speaker 10: basically for every sailor. So I've been talking about it
Speaker 10: for quite a while.
Speaker 1: HR is an interesting idea.
Speaker 10: It's fairly new, and anything that new necessarily.
Speaker 1: Has an adoption problem.
Speaker 10: But it's a fairly new idea and it's going to
Speaker 10: probably run into some headwinds because it's going to be
Speaker 10: a tax benefit to the company, and the folks on
Speaker 10: the left typically hate anything that's a tax benefit to
Speaker 10: the company, right, But I don't like taxing the companies.
Speaker 10: They don't like tax benefits, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, inevitably, you're going to blame the one percent. Ineforably,
Speaker 2: you're going to blame corporations. And inevitably it's going to
Speaker 2: be the Republican's love corporations. And look, they're not taking
Speaker 2: care of the little guy. But the little guy is
Speaker 2: going to get left at the post. I just I
Speaker 2: think it's going to be fascinating Tom because we have
Speaker 2: the the off year elections and now there's a push
Speaker 2: by the Democrats to, you know, just extend these things
Speaker 2: for three years, these these emergency subsidies, and then you're
Speaker 2: right up against the presidential election. See, all of it's
Speaker 2: couched against politics, which is what I think plays into
Speaker 2: what you just said. We've kicked the can down the
Speaker 2: road so much on this that it's become a political game,
Speaker 2: not necessarily a healthcare game, and the only people that
Speaker 2: seem to be doing well are the insurance companies. And
Speaker 2: I think that's where that's where we are right.
Speaker 10: Now, and that lands up in Luigi Mongoni right shooting
Speaker 10: the guy from you know, but I think that the
Speaker 10: other issue that you're correctly pointing out here is that
Speaker 10: it's it's it feels like it's an intractable solution, but
Speaker 10: a problem. But you know, the other problem that I
Speaker 10: kind of tongue in cheek as hurt is it goes
Speaker 10: back to the clear failure of the education system because
Speaker 10: the Democrats have clearly not understood the definition of the
Speaker 10: word temporary, right, because these were never supposed to be
Speaker 10: permanent subsidies, and now they're saying, wait a minute, how
Speaker 10: can you leave us out on the cold? These were well,
Speaker 10: the they were always supposed to be temporary. And guess
Speaker 10: what it was the Democrats that made it temporary.
Speaker 1: There wasn't a weak thing that we said, Hey, let's
Speaker 1: go do this temporary thing. It's a good idea.
Speaker 10: So I think there's a we really need to get
Speaker 10: back to the core issues of how do we pay
Speaker 10: for stuff? And the models that have always worked one
Speaker 10: hundred percent of the time is when people pay for
Speaker 10: stuff themselves, and it never works when you have somebody
Speaker 10: else pay It's just another form, like I said, of
Speaker 10: corporate socialism, a relicive FDR.
Speaker 2: That's why you're the smartest man in the healthcare industry.
Speaker 2: His book is The sixty Percent Solution, Rethinking Healthcare. Todd's
Speaker 2: due for another book. I'm just telling you, you got
Speaker 2: to get another one out there, Todd Furnas you stay well,
Speaker 2: you know we'll be in touchdown the road. Thanks for
Speaker 2: your insight today. We appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. My friend take care.
Speaker 2: Yep, he's due for another book. He's been living off
Speaker 2: this one far too long. But you know, it was
Speaker 2: just on CBS this week. I was watching a congressman
Speaker 2: from California. I believe his last name was Lecardo. I
Speaker 2: don't know his first name, can't remember it, but he
Speaker 2: said that the push by some of these other dams
Speaker 2: in Congress to extend these Obamacare subsidies for three years
Speaker 2: is kind of cynical because you're right up against the
Speaker 2: presidential election year. Then they had a Kylie who was
Speaker 2: a Republican from California. He was on there too, and
Speaker 2: he said, you know, it's yeah if you do it,
Speaker 2: but if you just do it through twenty twenty six,
Speaker 2: you're up against the midterms after that. I mean, they
Speaker 2: this is a political hot potato and there's no easy
Speaker 2: answer to it. But if they get to health reimbursement
Speaker 2: arrangements where the insurance companies aren't getting paid but the
Speaker 2: individual employee gets the money to determine his or her
Speaker 2: healthcare path and don't tax that, I mean that sounds
Speaker 2: like everybody walks away happy. Sure, the corporations are the
Speaker 2: ones are the other ones that would benefit from it,
Speaker 2: But so what if you and I benefit from it?
Speaker 2: What's wrong with that? Sure, are wasting a lot of
Speaker 2: tax dollars on anything everything else in this country, aren't we?
Speaker 2: I'm down off my soapbox. It's two twenty seven. News
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Speaker 1: Hello, quiet, and I'm I'm broadcasting.
Speaker 2: So good to see you again. Same here, ken Brew,
Speaker 2: the rock is here to what do you think I
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Speaker 2: Good to see your rock. You look great. You're all
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Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 7: Absolutely? What my reindeer costume on? As you can see,
Speaker 7: I can see that. That's right.
Speaker 2: Are you prancer or acer dancer? Yes?
Speaker 12: Much more, much more effeminate reindeer.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So what what what is expected of us at this
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Speaker 7: That's how I plan on really doing. But now we're
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Speaker 2: was his birthday. See here he is. Yeah, he got
Speaker 2: to play it. It's got to start singing on this
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Speaker 1: It's the most wonderful time.
Speaker 12: See that's why I like your show.
Speaker 7: I had I've heard this song ten thousand times in
Speaker 7: my life, and I had no idea.
Speaker 12: You're telling me. The guy singing this song went to
Speaker 12: West High.
Speaker 2: Went to West High.
Speaker 6: Yeah, went to West High, and I think when he
Speaker 6: was maybe like a senior, they moved out to Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: You were in the drama department at sant.
Speaker 7: X one Iran. It yeah, absolutely, medal winner two years
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Speaker 2: A lot of drama before those report cards came out right,
Speaker 2: two or three days before. It's a lot of drama.
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's the employment allis there was for sure.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: See what's going on at sports?
Speaker 6: Throw the Bengals for working out outside the next couple
Speaker 6: of days, getting ready for that, getting used to that
Speaker 6: Buffalo weather they're going to face on Sunday. Trey Hendrickson's
Speaker 6: not going to practice again. Imagine that t Higgins limited
Speaker 6: in practice. He's working through that concussion protocol Bacon progress,
Speaker 6: but don't know whether or not he'll be available on
Speaker 6: Sunday or not.
Speaker 2: We'll wait and see. Rok, what do you think about
Speaker 2: that on Sunday? I mean I could see if the
Speaker 2: Bengals always handle the Bills well. But this is a
Speaker 2: huge game for the Bills, right, I mean they're still
Speaker 2: chasing the paper.
Speaker 12: Yeah, they're still chasing it. You know, the Bengals are
Speaker 12: inspired by Joe Burrow.
Speaker 7: The Bengals defense have looked better the last two weeks,
Speaker 7: so you know, and there's something to play for you
Speaker 7: win out, which is not easy, and then the Ravens
Speaker 7: and the Steelers split, saying there's a chance.
Speaker 2: What happens if they beat the Bills and they beat
Speaker 2: the Ravens and then lose to the Dolphins. That's not good.
Speaker 12: We cry and cry and cry.
Speaker 6: Yes, Bengals kicker Evan McPherson is the ASC Special Teams
Speaker 6: Player of the Week with his efforts in the Ravens win.
Speaker 6: They went perfect six for six and field goals money
Speaker 6: man and two for two and pats unbelievable. Ken Anderson
Speaker 6: finalist the Pro Football Hall of Fame class of twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Six should be in there already. Amen.
Speaker 6: Anderson takes on Avon tomorrow night in Canton for the
Speaker 6: Division two title. The Bombers go at it Friday night. Yes,
Speaker 6: you made Anderson High School. Ken Anderson isn't taking on Avon,
Speaker 6: right he should? I think I think he's playing for
Speaker 6: the Raptors. But don't tell anybody, Okay, don't tell him. Okay,
Speaker 6: you know always looking here, you know the other for
Speaker 6: the Ken Anderson. I mean, it's gonna be tough. You
Speaker 6: got to get eighty percent of the vote.
Speaker 2: You got Belichick and you got Brady on that and
Speaker 2: that could be some drama they both get in. Robert Craft. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: Robert Craft in Belichick, I'm sorry, yes, thank you for
Speaker 2: correcting me on it. Anyway, I was going back looking
Speaker 2: at some statistics here at Rocky. Do you remember the
Speaker 2: two thousand and six season you guys played the Colts
Speaker 2: played the Patriots up in New England. You beat him
Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty.
Speaker 12: You remember that in two thousand and seven, yes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was that magical year.
Speaker 5: That was.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think what the dead. No, you played
Speaker 2: in November fifth of two thousand and six.
Speaker 7: Okay, no, you're yeah, you're talking about the sixth season
Speaker 7: we played in an AFC Italium, but that was at
Speaker 7: our place, right, Yes.
Speaker 2: You played no in two thousand and six, you played
Speaker 2: them in New England, rock I got the stats here
Speaker 2: right in front of me.
Speaker 12: That was the regular season game in the AFC title.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about that regular season Yeah, Corry Della had
Speaker 2: a couple of touchdowns. Vine Terry was going crazy. You
Speaker 2: played in that game, So I mean you probably sent
Speaker 2: both Belichick and Craft home unhappy into that wilderness that
Speaker 2: is New England.
Speaker 12: Magical year.
Speaker 2: Yes, I believe, I said Dallas Clark. Yeah, Joseph and Die,
Speaker 2: you had a great team. Marvin Harrison.
Speaker 7: The Colt now, Robert Bob said, Sanders of safety, the
Speaker 7: eraser Colts now are a little bit of in a crisis.
Speaker 7: We have Sauce Garner's right.
Speaker 2: They got a quarterbacks, got a broken leg that's playing
Speaker 2: on a fractured leg. Say continue, please.
Speaker 6: College basketball tonight, NKU opens up Horizon League play, taking
Speaker 6: on Cleveland State six point thirty on Fox Sports thirteen sixty.
Speaker 6: Among the one of the Reds that'll be making their
Speaker 6: appearance at Redsfest next month, Andrew Abbott, Graham Ashcraft, TJ. Friedel, Also,
Speaker 6: Terry Francona and his coaching staff, brons At Arroyo, Oh,
Speaker 6: Skeeter Barnes, Skeeter Barnhardt the Cowboy, they're digging them up.
Speaker 6: Sean Casey, Danny Graves, Wow, Devin Mezzeraco, De Infamous. Dave Miley,
Speaker 6: Dave Miley, Sam LeCure.
Speaker 2: You know Dave Miley. I was in Tampa when Dave
Speaker 2: Miley was a high school athlete, and Dave Miley was
Speaker 2: a better football player than he was a baseball player.
Speaker 2: And he was a great baseball player. Miley could have
Speaker 2: played in the NFL. That's how good he was about
Speaker 2: that could have played in the NFL. It looks like
Speaker 2: got Brian Hartline is off to South Florid, Florida. Yeah,
Speaker 2: going to Ryan.
Speaker 6: Day says he's gonna continue on coaching the Buckeyes.
Speaker 2: See how far they go?
Speaker 7: Ken Brew, Are you as upset as I am about
Speaker 7: here we are? It's the end of the college football season,
Speaker 7: the part were it's supposed to be more fun than ever,
Speaker 7: and we got the you know, the bowl games coming,
Speaker 7: the playoff coming, and it's a mess. There's coaches going everywhere,
Speaker 7: leaving teams. The playoff is a disaster too. You got
Speaker 7: a seven and five duke team playing the ACC title game.
Speaker 7: No one knows who's going in, who's not going in.
Speaker 12: It's a mess. It's supposed to be one on the
Speaker 12: best part of the year and it's a mess.
Speaker 2: And the Ohio University he's not there. Nobody knows why
Speaker 2: he was. Just that's walked into a meet the idea
Speaker 2: apparently walked into a coaches meeting, told everybody to get out,
Speaker 2: and then told the head coach go away, you're on leave.
Speaker 2: Nobody knows why.
Speaker 7: Well, I have Chuck Martin at five of five. Can
Speaker 7: maybe I'll ask him, he'll know I do Chuck.
Speaker 2: Is Chuck Martin the best coach in the back.
Speaker 12: I mean, he's the best coach in America. I think
Speaker 12: he's fantastic. He's so good.
Speaker 2: They overschedule, they get the paydays early on, and then man,
Speaker 2: he's ready to go. His quarterback quit on him. He's
Speaker 2: that's some guy never heard of. I thought it would
Speaker 2: got The guy's kid's name is Gutkowski. I thought it
Speaker 2: was the kicker that used to be with with New England.
Speaker 2: Look what he's done. The kid was the red shirt
Speaker 2: freshman throwing three three touchdown passes last week. And Chuck
Speaker 2: Martin's the best football coach in the back. You may
Speaker 2: be writing, maybe the best football coach in the matter.
Speaker 12: I've been saying for a while.
Speaker 7: Ken, you know everybody's looking for the next hot young
Speaker 7: offensive coordinator to become the next head coach of this
Speaker 7: and that. Well why not go to Kurt Signetti model
Speaker 7: right of a guy who's just won, the guy who
Speaker 7: just wins. And Chuck Martin, whether it's a Grand Valley
Speaker 7: State or Miami, he just wins. He knows the ins
Speaker 7: and outs of how to run a program through the
Speaker 7: ups and the downs and the portal and all that
Speaker 7: get a guy.
Speaker 2: Like, hey, you guys, ever heard you? Guy's ever heard this?
Speaker 12: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: You know who this is right? Yes, Black Sabbath. Today's
Speaker 2: a monumental day for Black Sabbath rock. You know, in
Speaker 2: a good groove.
Speaker 12: This is right here.
Speaker 2: If he were alive today, Ozzie, Ozzie would be seventy
Speaker 2: seven years old on day.
Speaker 7: How about that he's passed what about six months ago July,
Speaker 7: late July.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he did that that concert and like a
Speaker 6: week and a half later he was dead.
Speaker 5: Gone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's unbelievable.
Speaker 5: He's unbelievable.
Speaker 2: And heard your dog Elvis their rock?
Speaker 12: Yeah, well dad, you say that can brew my dog.
Speaker 12: He was sixteen years old, over retriever.
Speaker 2: Unbelievable. Was really?
Speaker 6: Was he named after Elvis Presley or Elvis Costello?
Speaker 12: Elvis Presley because he is the king? Yes, the King
Speaker 12: is sixteen?
Speaker 2: God bless God, bless that. That is a wonderful breed.
Speaker 2: I used to have a golden and I cried like
Speaker 2: a baby to day she died. It was unbelievable, the
Speaker 2: best unbelievable yes, take care of your pets absolutely. Well,
Speaker 2: what do you got coming up rock at three o'clock?
Speaker 2: I don't want to spend too much time here because
Speaker 2: I know the agent veteran that you work with gets upset.
Speaker 2: What do you got coming up at three o'clock?
Speaker 12: Well, first of all, Eddie's out again again.
Speaker 2: I mean we've got he's gone more than Biden, and
Speaker 2: Biden was gone the day.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 12: So Jason Williams is in right out of the gate.
Speaker 12: This would be fun. We have Jack Grinder on Attorney
Speaker 12: to the Stars.
Speaker 2: I don't know who is who is he?
Speaker 5: And he's in a.
Speaker 7: Local attorney and he wrote an OpEd about you know
Speaker 7: there's a time you're a porch pirates, right, Kener you
Speaker 7: steal the packages?
Speaker 12: Well, he was asked a question if I set a
Speaker 12: booby trap?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 12: You know you've seen those those videos where they they
Speaker 12: steal the package and it blows up and it's like,
Speaker 12: you know, pink dust or something.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's gonna tell him if that's legal or not.
Speaker 7: So I thought that was timely. That's why I gate
Speaker 7: at three. I know it's not in New York. True,
Speaker 7: they take the victim, they don't take the criminal.
Speaker 12: In New York every single time. Yeah, and then at
Speaker 12: four o'clock we have a woman coming on, a research
Speaker 12: and author. I'm going to talk about Americans using AI
Speaker 12: to choose their Christmas gifts?
Speaker 7: Can people do anything on their own anymore? Do we
Speaker 7: have to use AI to do everything? I mean literally everything?
Speaker 2: That's why I take Seg shopping with me, Amen, Seg?
Speaker 2: Is there anything else we need to get to before
Speaker 2: we cut into Rocky's time? And who are you what today?
Speaker 6: Jason, Jason Williams and Jason Williams and some woman that's
Speaker 6: going to do some AI shopping for you, and some
Speaker 6: guy that wants to blow up packages.
Speaker 7: And it's another day on the editing Rocky shows.
Speaker 2: I thought I was doing well. Nobody well and they
Speaker 2: want to blow up?
Speaker 6: Is the last three hours here with hey say get
Speaker 6: us out of the Steward's Report.
Speaker 2: We got to go mingle with the guests ken Brew
Speaker 2: in honor of our Christmas party.
Speaker 6: Today we leave you with the immortal words of the
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Hey, Rock, you get older, man, your hearing goes.
Speaker 8: You know that.
Speaker 12: You know my dog Element he's alive, but he can't
Speaker 12: hear anything.
Speaker 2: Let me just say it, when you get older. The
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