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Speaker 2: There's a lot going on here locally, a lot going

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Speaker 2: National guardsmen? And is this not a warning sign, a

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Speaker 2: isolated instance. We hear all these stories about all of

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Speaker 2: allegedly from Washington to Washington, d C. How did that happen?

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Speaker 2: And are the people that helped us in Afghanistan Afghanistan

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Speaker 2: what we have heard, There was absolutely no vetting Gune,

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Speaker 2: Means he worked under the cover of darkness. He worked

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Speaker 2: And if so, does it extend peacefully? I speak of

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Speaker 2: a man by the name of Adam Hartage. He is

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Speaker 2: the author of the book The Alpha Blueprint, Preparing the

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Speaker 2: At Adam Hartich, how are you on this glorious Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: I'm great, can thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it, you bet, you bet. Now, by and large,

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Speaker 2: what the CIA needs from operatives in a country when

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Speaker 2: like ours, are two different things. You worked alongside a

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Speaker 4: You know, I'll give you the my my most honest

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Speaker 3: And I'm not saying it's the caveat.

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Speaker 3: The trustworthiness factor is extremely.

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Speaker 4: Like these things are illegal. You cannot do what.

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Speaker 5: They call it Hurricane Night.

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Speaker 2: We of course, Andy Williams, you know, little holiday spirit

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Speaker 1: I'm doing pretty well. I can't complain.

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Speaker 8: generations now more than ever with anxiety. But a bucket

439
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 8: list really gives somebody the ability to kind of take

440
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 8: control of a lot of different things. They have control

441
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Speaker 8: and decision power over in their lives by making plans

442
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Speaker 8: that they want to do.

443
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Speaker 2: When people hear bucket list, they think, well, I want

444
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Speaker 2: to do this before I kick the bucket, which is

445
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Speaker 2: literally what it means. But it doesn't always involve things

446
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 2: that are you have to commit a lot of money too.

447
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 2: It's not always that Alaskan cruise, although that would be nice.

448
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 2: I mean, you can find bucket lists, things to do

449
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 2: on an everyday basis. In some of them probably not

450
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 2: too far from your back door, right right about that?

451
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 8: Oh absolutely, just even within your house or sometimes you know,

452
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 8: like you said, you can go camping or tempting in

453
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Speaker 8: your back yard. And that conception that had something to

454
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 8: do before you die or once in a lifetime, things

455
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 8: like world travel or skydiving or get that corvette.

456
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Speaker 1: It's not just about that.

457
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Speaker 8: A lot of that comes from the movie The bucket

458
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Speaker 8: List that came out and it kind of got stereotyped

459
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 8: to me and that, but it's really about defining what

460
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 8: you want to do that makes you happy, and it's

461
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 8: small things in life, visiting a new farmers market, taking

462
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Speaker 8: a different route to work, seeing things that are in

463
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Speaker 8: your own backyard, and Cincinnati.

464
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Speaker 1: It's a lot of great things like that.

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Speaker 2: No, absolutely, there's no question about that. And I do

466
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Speaker 2: think that a lot of times people though, stop doing that.

467
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 2: They don't live in the moment. They live for the

468
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Speaker 2: other things that we talked about just a while ago.

469
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Speaker 2: So if somebody is like that and we're thinking, oh

470
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Speaker 2: my gosh, a bucket list, you know, I got to

471
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Speaker 2: worry about paying tuition for my kid next month. Now,

472
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Speaker 2: what would you.

473
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Speaker 8: Tell them, Well, it's stopped starting small. It's like I said,

474
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 8: you can start just thinking about what's in your neighborhood.

475
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 8: It's one thing about AI right now. You can go

476
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Speaker 8: on to a open AI chat GBT and say, what's

477
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Speaker 8: in my town that I may not be aware of

478
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Speaker 8: that is kind of bucket lists worthy. And you start

479
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 8: getting ideas and most people find out, Yeah, I've never

480
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 8: been to these places. I haven't taken pictures here, I

481
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 8: haven't gone to these restaurants.

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Speaker 1: You know.

483
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Speaker 8: So there's that's that's how a bucket list starts, is

484
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Speaker 8: just trying to pick out some things.

485
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Speaker 1: That you enjoy doing.

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Speaker 8: And I often say this, there's a hundred there's hundreds

487
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Speaker 8: of different categories, not to mention thousands of items that

488
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Speaker 8: can go in those categories. That are you know, traveling

489
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Speaker 8: the world is great, but it doesn't have to be there,

490
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Speaker 8: And it says and bucket listing doesn't have to cost

491
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Speaker 8: a lot of money or anything at all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, is it too simple to cause? Does it call

493
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Speaker 2: something like that reason for living?

494
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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 8: I think that's one of the things that a bucket

496
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Speaker 8: listen still is reason for living, you know, a lot

497
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Speaker 8: of times I'm working with my clients and I'm saying,

498
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Speaker 8: you know, we're all here from point A to point B.

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Speaker 1: It's and in between. What are you going to do

500
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Speaker 1: with that? You know?

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Speaker 8: And again I go back to my father, who you know,

502
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Speaker 8: I think he was the first person who told me,

503
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Speaker 8: don't fear dying, fear not living.

504
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Speaker 1: And he was you know, I grew.

505
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Speaker 8: Up in a lower middle class neighborhood and he was

506
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Speaker 8: a printer for the state. But you know, he's done

507
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Speaker 8: amazing things. You know, he has had terminal cancer for

508
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Speaker 8: his last seventeen years, and he did more in that

509
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Speaker 8: seventeen years than he's done his entire life, and that

510
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 8: most people will ever do so.

511
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Speaker 2: And probably added years to his life. I would guess, oh,

512
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 2: oh yeah, somebody. If somebody's diagnosed with cancer, immediately, you know,

513
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 2: the rain starts just starts pouring on top of them.

514
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 2: And for good reason. I'm not suggesting that, right, it

515
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: wouldn't be a good reason, but I think if you

516
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Speaker 2: have something to live for, then that may extend your

517
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Speaker 2: quality of life. It may not extend your life, it'll

518
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Speaker 2: extend the quality of your life. And who knows, well,

519
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, my gosh, you're a neuropsychiatrist.

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Speaker 5: What is that?

521
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Speaker 6: I have heard of a psychiatrist? What is a neuropsychiatrist?

522
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Speaker 8: Well, first, I'm a psychiatrist, and you know, I work

523
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Speaker 8: with people who have all different types of mental health issues,

524
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Speaker 8: whether it's just depression, anxiety. I do a lot of

525
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Speaker 8: work with eating disorders and bipolar disorder. But a neuropsychiatrist

526
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 8: is also working with people with cognitive issues that are

527
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 8: related to how the brain works and functions. And that's why, like,

528
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Speaker 8: when I was looking into this whole concept of how

529
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Speaker 8: I was living with a bucket list and everything, I

530
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Speaker 8: want to understand, well, what's the brain do with all

531
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Speaker 8: of this? And that's kind of the key difference that

532
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 8: a lot of people are completely unaware of is it's

533
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Speaker 8: a workout for the brain. It has this anti aging

534
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 8: quality that's as important as eating the right foods, exercising.

535
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Speaker 2: Oh so okay, so that's interest an anti agent quality.

536
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 2: So what else what a bucket list do? From what

537
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Speaker 2: you've come to know for the brain? What else would

538
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Speaker 2: it do for Because you know, all a firm believers

539
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: a layman that if it's not working upstairs, chances are

540
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,239
Speaker 2: the rest of what you got isn't working either, and

541
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Speaker 2: you won't be long for this earth. So okay, So

542
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Speaker 2: what does besides you know, hopefully holding off the anti

543
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Speaker 2: aging process. What else?

544
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Speaker 6: What a bucket list or quote unquote something to look

545
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Speaker 6: forward do to the brain.

546
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: Well, it's it really starts to work.

547
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Speaker 8: The brain likes when you give it something new, and

548
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 8: I'm always using the word novelty, something different. So whether

549
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,959
Speaker 8: it's a new food, a new street, a new coffee,

550
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 8: a new experience, it's the brain starts to release dopamine

551
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Speaker 8: and our reward pathways espential, especially you know the ones

552
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Speaker 8: that sometimes makes us feel very happy, and dopamine is

553
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 8: the brain's way of saying, do more of that. So

554
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 8: over time, these little bursts strengthens our memory circuits and

555
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 8: it increases what's called neuroplacity neuroplasticity just a fancy way

556
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 8: of saying, you know, your brain rewires itself to stay younger, sharper,

557
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 8: more resilient. So it works on other regions too, because

558
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Speaker 8: when people kind of settle in into their comfort zone, you're

559
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Speaker 8: not forcing the brain to work out all its potential.

560
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 8: The same way if someone was lifting ten pound weights

561
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Speaker 8: and then after a while, they get used to it,

562
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Speaker 8: but never push that. They're never going to expand that

563
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Speaker 8: muscle and the brain. We need to do the same

564
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Speaker 8: thing with is keep working it out and expanding it

565
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Speaker 8: and living with a bucket list and novelty is one

566
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Speaker 8: of those ways.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know our culture, you know our society,

568
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 2: people don't really want to leave their comfort zone. They

569
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Speaker 2: don't really want to take that step. So my guess

570
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Speaker 2: is part of what your practice is all about, and

571
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Speaker 2: part of what the neuroscience of a bucket list. Getting

572
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Speaker 2: the most from your brain in life your book is

573
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Speaker 2: all about, is getting people outside that comfort zone mentally,

574
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Speaker 2: certainly physically as well, But I would guess mentally, you know,

575
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Speaker 2: start taking on more as you mentioned, more challenges for

576
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Speaker 2: your brain and exercise it as you would any other muscle.

577
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, the rain does like to settle into

578
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Speaker 8: this comfort zone. It's very cozy, but it kind of

579
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 8: prevents future growth. And when everything is predictable, the brain

580
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 8: gets lazy. Neuropathways they kind of like become these old

581
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 8: ruts in the dirt road. They're deep, they're familiar, they're rigid,

582
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 8: and the rewards circuits quiet down. So that's when people

583
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 8: start feeling stuck or anxious or bored. It's not because

584
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Speaker 8: life is bad, but because nothing is stretching the brain anymore.

585
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Speaker 2: Doctor Jeffrey Disarbo is our guest. He is the bucket

586
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Speaker 2: list Doctor. You can find him at bucket listdoctor dot com.

587
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 2: So when someone goes to bucket listdoctor dot com, what

588
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: do they get.

589
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: Well, it's a site that I've recently revamped.

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Speaker 8: It has information, of course, about who I am and everything,

591
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 8: but I have information about the brain as it relates

592
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 8: to bucket lists, planning, goal setting. I've been writing more

593
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Speaker 8: and more blogs.

594
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Speaker 1: I think the.

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Speaker 8: Last one I had was how therapy itself can be

596
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Speaker 8: a bucket list item.

597
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: How I wrote an.

598
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Speaker 8: Article on Helen, Heaven and Hell on Earth, eight places

599
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 8: that are almost impossible to go to, but that entirely impossible.

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Speaker 8: So it really is something to kind of stimulate people

601
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Speaker 8: to think about life, how they want to maybe pursue

602
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Speaker 8: it differently, how you know, just to think out of

603
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 8: the box in today's world, because, like I said, we're

604
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 8: kind of getting the brain's getting programmed to be a

605
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 8: pretty negative thing if all we do is fall into

606
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 8: that path of you know, listening to what people tell

607
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 8: us how bad it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I mean you can find you know, do

609
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: them and gloom anywhere on any level, on any platform,

610
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 2: right in that. Yeah, the neuroscience of a bucket list

611
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Speaker 2: getting the most from your brain and life. Doctor Jeffrey Disarbo,

612
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Speaker 2: I think you you might have helped some people today,

613
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Speaker 2: and for a doctor, if you'll, hope if you just

614
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Speaker 2: help one person today, you've done your job, right.

615
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: That's that's all I set up to do.

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Speaker 8: I'll do what I can and same for you, you know,

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Speaker 8: And you're bringing this to them. I hope they're graceful

618
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 8: and see, Oh what a bucket listing. I heard this

619
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Speaker 8: story today.

620
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Speaker 2: Let's do this again. And I don't say that capriciously.

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Speaker 2: I love to talk to you again. Thank you, doctors,

622
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Speaker 2: stay well, we need to hear your voice.

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Speaker 1: Okay, absolutely, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Ken you bet there you find it. Neuropsychiatrists, we found

625
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Speaker 2: out what that's all about. Bucket list. Neuroscience of a

626
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Speaker 2: bucket list, getting the most from your brain in life.

627
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Speaker 2: Who doesn't want to get the most out of life?

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Speaker 2: If not, what are we doing here? Same question I

629
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Speaker 2: asked at the end of the last half hour. What

630
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Speaker 2: are we doing here? People often asked that about me.

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Speaker 2: Twelve fifty five News Radio, seven hundred w WELW.

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Speaker 6: All right, one O nine on this Wednesday, one O

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Speaker 6: nine on this Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon. So we brace for more cold weather. We're

635
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 2: bracing for the teens tomorrow. Why do I feel like

636
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 2: that will seem like summer in about a month? Hey,

637
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 2: look at Cincinnati, just wait a while. The weather is

638
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: going to change. It's gonna get cold tomorrow, and then

639
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: it'll warm up and we'll all get sick because there'll

640
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 2: be the crud in the air. And then before you

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00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 2: know it, it'll be January. Everybody will be shut in

642
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 2: because a huge blizzard is hit. And then February, Oh come,

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Speaker 2: we'll all get trick. We'll be at on the golf

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00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 2: course in early February, then some more snow, and then

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it's Opening Day, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: That is the next four months in a nutshell. But

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Speaker 2: that's why we like it. That's why we stay here,

648
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 2: because it's so much fun. I was going through the

649
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Speaker 2: internets last night with Bush forty one, and I found

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Speaker 2: this a gallop kettering survey of more than twenty thousand Americans,

651
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 2: significant number, twenty thousand of US. It shows broad agreement

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Speaker 2: on the foundational Democrat principles, things like life, liberty, the

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Speaker 2: pursuit of happiness, things that this country was founded upon,

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Speaker 2: a lot of the ability for government to stay out

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Speaker 2: of our lives. So all of that was in this report,

656
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Speaker 2: and then I found this that was interesting. Over eighty

657
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 2: percent of you, me, everybody else reject political violence. Now

658
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 2: I'd like to talk to the other twenty percent and

659
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: exactly what they're thinking about political violence and why they

660
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 2: think that's a good way to get anything done. But nevertheless,

661
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 2: the overwhelming majority of people are like you and me,

662
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 2: and we believe that compromise in government should be at

663
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: the forefront, not digging your heels in, not yelling and

664
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 2: spitting at the other side, but a way to get

665
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 2: the business of running this country done. That's why these nitwits,

666
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 2: and that's all they are, basically, the nitwits in Congress,

667
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 2: the nitwits in the Senate. That's why we send them

668
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 2: to Washington, DC. To get the business of the country done.

669
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Speaker 2: Not to appear on cable TV news shows, not to

670
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: put out fancy tweets, not to do deep dives into idiotic,

671
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 2: stupid things that have nothing more than politics as their base.

672
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 2: We just want this. And I thought it would be

673
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 2: interesting to get onto this program today somebody who came

674
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 2: to this country legally and came here because he thought

675
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 2: the American dream was the ultimate dream. Anyone could have

676
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: the ability to be themselves and do anything they want

677
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: to try and make their lives better. And if eighty

678
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: percent of us agree that political violence is not good,

679
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Speaker 2: and more than a larger number than that believe that

680
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: the foundational democratic principles of our country are the things

681
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Speaker 2: that we should base all of what we do on.

682
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Speaker 2: And I thought there would be no better guests than

683
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 2: a man I had on this show. I want to

684
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: say it was about two or three months ago. His

685
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Speaker 2: name is Peter Lemage, and he is a political strategist,

686
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 2: an attorney, and he emigrated to this country from a

687
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 2: communist country, Albania, and he got to the United States

688
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 2: and he got here and he wanted to do what

689
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Speaker 2: would make this country better and has a very firm

690
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 2: view of what that may be or may not be,

691
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: and why that this is still regardless of everything that

692
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Speaker 2: you may hear on all of the cable news shows

693
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: the hilarity that evolves there. This is still the greatest

694
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Speaker 2: country in the world. So it's with great honor and

695
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 2: with a little bit of excitement. As always, we welcome

696
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 2: in the aforementioned Peter homage. How are you on this

697
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: glorious Wednesday.

698
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm doing well. Thank you for having me, sir.

699
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 2: I'm glad you're back with us, because I think we

700
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: need to hear your voice. I look at this Gallup

701
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Speaker 2: Kettering survey, twenty thousand Americans. That's a fairly large poll,

702
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Speaker 2: and it shows that we all agree on something, or

703
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: most of us do eight and ten of us do

704
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:55,280
Speaker 2: we agree on the fundamental Democrat principles. Over eighty percent

705
00:37:55,400 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 2: reject political violence, support compromise in government, and the US

706
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: benefits from a mix of race, cultures, and religions. This

707
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 2: is America that I know. I don't know what the

708
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 2: other twenty percent are doing. I can't speak for them,

709
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 2: but this is the America I know and love. So

710
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 2: why is America teetering on so many different issues at

711
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 2: this point in time? Why does this survey say one

712
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: thing and we seem to see something completely different in

713
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Speaker 2: real life?

714
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Speaker 9: Look, the most important thing to realize here is that

715
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 9: if we disregard the mainstream media, the academia, the politicians

716
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 9: sometimes and elected officials, I don't think that Americans wake

717
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 9: up in the morning disliking each other. I don't think

718
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 9: that Americans wake up in the morning thinking that I'm

719
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 9: going to dislike or hate someone because they look different

720
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 9: from the way I look, or they believe or they

721
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 9: pray in a different way than I do. Americans are

722
00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 9: very common sensical people. We like each other, We like ornaborhoods,

723
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 9: we like our schools. We want to have safe neighborhoods.

724
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 9: We want to have lower taxes. We want a government

725
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 9: that functions. We want the government to leave us alone.

726
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 9: And these are the common sensical Americans, regardless of the

727
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 9: small or little differences between us as ordinary folks.

728
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Speaker 1: The problem is the mainstream media.

729
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 9: There is always trying to drive a wedge between or

730
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 9: amongst people who may look or sound or feel different

731
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 9: from each other. The same thing with the academia. The

732
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 9: same thing sometimes would be elected officials because they benefit

733
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 9: from this. But ordinary posts like you and I and

734
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 9: we're just we have no problems with our neighbors being

735
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 9: there for each other, helping each other getting together, all

736
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 9: of us celebrated as something that is typical American. We

737
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 9: wish each other, you know, merry Christmas, happy things, giving

738
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 9: all these but when it comes to the media, they

739
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 9: tell us, well, no, no, you should say happy Holidays

740
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 9: is not Christmas. We don't pay attention to these differences

741
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Speaker 9: that the media emphasiz.

742
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Speaker 1: Up on us. And I'm so happy to see this poll.

743
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Speaker 9: I'll be frank with you that it is one of

744
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 9: the rare times that I really felt very comfortable to

745
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 9: see these Americans like you and I coming together and

746
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 9: saying that we don't care. But the differences that all

747
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 9: this are emphasising up on us, they do not exist.

748
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 9: We respect each other's you know, differences, but we respect Americanism.

749
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Speaker 1: And that is this is good news. It is good news.

750
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Speaker 2: It is Peter. It is eighty percent reject political violence.

751
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 2: And yet then in October a poll came out that

752
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Speaker 2: was done by PBS News and NPR. Of course, every

753
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 2: time I see PBS, I tend to discount it. It

754
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 2: is a deeply liberal organization. And then NPR gets involved

755
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 2: in it, and it really takes it down the liberal drain.

756
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 2: But what it says there is nearly a third of

757
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 2: Americans thirty three percent now believe political violence may be

758
00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: necessary to get the country back on track. That's right.

759
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 2: That was on the heels of the Charlie Kirk assassination

760
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 2: in Utah. And I'm just wondering as we look at

761
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 2: these poles, which one should we believe, which are corrupt?

762
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 2: And what is truly going on in our country? Is

763
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 2: it what you and I just talked about, Because how

764
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: can you have this gallop pole and then have an

765
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: NPR PBS poll that's not even a month and a

766
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 2: half old that says that thirty three percent believe political

767
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: violence may be necessary to get the country back on track.

768
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 2: What's going on here?

769
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 9: Well, I believe that certain poles are conducted with the

770
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 9: intent of shape in the perception of there, the public

771
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,959
Speaker 9: perception of there, and PBS is one of them.

772
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: The latter pole should be the ones.

773
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 9: That I firmly believe we should trust and looking to

774
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 9: more seriously, because, as I said, ordinary Americans like you

775
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 9: and I, they don't care much what PBS said. But Kevin,

776
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 9: you know certain polls indicating that Americans believe in political violence.

777
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 9: I don't think we should even promote that we should

778
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 9: even make that a public news for whatever reason. But

779
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 9: I don't believe they do. I live amongst Americans every

780
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 9: single day. I wasn't born and raised in this country.

781
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 9: I have yet to see anyone any American boar citizens

782
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 9: dislike me, or dislike my family, or threatened me or

783
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 9: going after me and my family because we speak with

784
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 9: an accent, because we were not born here, because we

785
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 9: moved into their neighborhoods. As a matter of fact, I've

786
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 9: seen love, I've seen caring, I've seen admiration. I've seen

787
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 9: people come into our health and assistant and when we

788
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 9: moved into their neighborhoods in Pairfield, Henrickett, they came to

789
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 9: my house with cookies and wine and you name it,

790
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 9: and walks out there well than me and my family there.

791
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 9: And you know, I'm really thankful that generally speaking, most

792
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 9: Americans are the way that they are descrubed in this

793
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 9: letter fall instead of the previous one. So I still

794
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 9: believe that Americans great, that the American people are great.

795
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: They have a big heart.

796
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 9: They look which is the greatest holidays that we celebrate

797
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 9: over here, whether it's Thanksgiving, Christmas.

798
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: You name it.

799
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 9: Then you see Americans coming together reading each other saying,

800
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 9: you know, happy Holidays or Merry Christmas, or Happy New

801
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:13,479
Speaker 9: Year or whatever we say.

802
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: And if you look the.

803
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 9: Smile that you see in their faces. And sometimes, as

804
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 9: I said, we have to turn up the media. I

805
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 9: just say, you know something, disregard what the media saying.

806
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 9: Our neighbors are great, our people are great, Americans are great.

807
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 9: Let's celebrate what brings us together, which is Americanism, which

808
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 9: is our Judea of Christian values, which is Constitution, which

809
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 9: is the founding documents of this country.

810
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: I mean, we have so many things in common.

811
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 9: That we have to celebrate instead of following these falls

812
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 9: that indicate that everything that we stand for separates us.

813
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: That is not true, and I don't believe it. For

814
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 1: a second.

815
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: Scallop pole, the one that survey twenty thousand people, it

816
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: had something interesting in it. It said over the past

817
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,760
Speaker 2: twenty five years, which would be since calendar year two thousand,

818
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 2: since five since since twenty five years. In the last

819
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 2: twenty five years, forty nine percent of the people's surveyed

820
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: believe that cultural change in the US has happened too fast,

821
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 2: which means that fifty one percent thinks that it was

822
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 2: just right. So we're kind of split fifty to fifty

823
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: there on cultural change. Do you think cultural change has

824
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 2: happened too fast over the course of the last twenty

825
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 2: five years. It would lead me to believe you would,

826
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 2: because close to two thirds of Republicans sixty four percent,

827
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 2: think that cultural change did happen too fast over the

828
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 2: last twenty five years. Has it happened, in your opinion,

829
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 2: too quickly?

830
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: I think it did. And this is one one thing

831
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: that I.

832
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 9: Agree with the full deathok having a cultural change happening

833
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 9: quickly and bringing people to unlistates who may not be compatible.

834
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: With the values that we have here.

835
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 9: In certain groups are refusing to assimilate and embrace the

836
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 9: values that we have here. They are trying to impose

837
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 9: their values that they bring from their countries upon the

838
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 9: American people. I mean, this is something that we have

839
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 9: to look into, the kind of immigration that we have,

840
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 9: the kind of people that are coming to United States.

841
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 9: But this is not the first time that we have

842
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 9: seen this kind of transition in the United States.

843
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: I mean, if you go way back when the Irish.

844
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 9: Came to the United States, they pay face challenges with

845
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 9: the Italians game to the United States. They did face

846
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 9: certain challenges, but there were different kinds of breed, if

847
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 9: you will, for lack of better term, that they were

848
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 9: willing to embrace the American values and assimilate into these

849
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 9: values and become good Americans and serve the country, join

850
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 9: the military, join.

851
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 1: The political right.

852
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 9: Whatever they did, they became American Americans. Now, we have

853
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 9: certain groups that are coming to United States that they

854
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 9: are being enticed. Our government is enticing them to come

855
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 9: to United States for the benefits that we offer them

856
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 9: instead of Americanism.

857
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: For example, you live in Connecticut right now and.

858
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 9: You're illegal, you get it with forty thousand dollars a

859
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 9: year for doing nothing. You get free housing, you get

860
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 9: re education. They will get your driver's license, you know.

861
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 9: I mean, it pays to be illegal in the United

862
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 9: States right now, and this is something that we have

863
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 9: to stop. You want to come to United States legally,

864
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 9: there's a process. You follow that process. My family and

865
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 9: I did that. I mean my brothers and I will

866
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 9: remained or were held in a concentration camp or refugee camp.

867
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 9: It was a refugee camp for eleven months to be

868
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 9: processed to come to United States legally and at that time,

869
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 9: you needed a sponsor and you conducted. We were submitted

870
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 9: to background investigation. They wanted to make sure that we

871
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 9: were at criminals or terrorists or whatever it comes they

872
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 9: were using, and they wanted to make sure that we

873
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 9: were coming to United States to be Americans.

874
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: And I'm proud we did that and faifully, batfully waited.

875
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: I mean, we had no problems to wait for that

876
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: staff period of time.

877
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 9: Nowadays, people would come to UNIE the States, and the

878
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 9: following day that they come here, they're looking for the

879
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 9: benefits that we shouldn't offered to them.

880
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: Say yeah, there are certain concerns that we.

881
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 9: Should have it, but you know the kind of immigration

882
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 9: that we have, you know, allowed to come.

883
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: Here in the past twenty five years or so.

884
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 2: And this is something else that I found interesting. Americans

885
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 2: who divided evenly about whether or not the government or

886
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 2: themselves should be responsible for making sure that their basic

887
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 2: needs are met. Forty eight percent said government, fifty percent

888
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: said themselves. The younger demo, the eighteen to twenty nine crowd,

889
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 2: sixty three percent said it should be the government. To me,

890
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 2: that's walking dangerously down the road to socialism. Is that

891
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 2: a march down the road to socialism.

892
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 9: Yeah, yes it did. Americans should remember one thing. When

893
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 9: we hit the government shut down a few weeks ago,

894
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 9: everybody was complaining that we cannot feed certain amount of people,

895
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 9: a number of people. They should remember that the government

896
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 9: can feed you. The government can start you. If the

897
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 9: government controlled the way your life, the way you live

898
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 9: your life, the government can modify it, can change it.

899
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 9: I mean we shouldn't you know. The difference between the

900
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 9: United States and other countries is this. We believe that

901
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 9: our rights are god given rights life, liberty, in pursuit

902
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 9: of happiness. The founding part is made that were on

903
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 9: the Declaration of Independence. Then we rute the constitution to

904
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 9: make sure that these god given rights are protected from

905
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 9: the government. Because we knew that, or they knew that

906
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 9: the government can violate these god given rights that we have.

907
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 9: No other country in the work has this. And if

908
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 9: we allow the government to become part of every part

909
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 9: of every aspect of our life, this is something that

910
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 9: is moving towards a socialistic government.

911
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: And we don't need that.

912
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 9: That is not compatible with the American system that we have.

913
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 9: Republicans and constitutionalism gives everyone an opportunity to succeed. It

914
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 9: doesn't guarantee you equal result, but it guarantees you equal opportunity.

915
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 9: And if we get eco opportunity, anyone can pursue that

916
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 9: to achieve their greatness based on his God or her

917
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 9: God given ability.

918
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: And this is what we appreciate.

919
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 9: Refugees like me and my brothers and my family when

920
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 9: we come to United States, we appreciate the opportunity. We're

921
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 9: not looking for anything else. If I may give you

922
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 9: an example, when my brothers gave to the United States

923
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 9: and we landed at JFK, there was a lady who

924
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 9: approached us with an interpreter and we were as to

925
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 9: sign certain forms to join the welfare system to get

926
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 9: certain benefits.

927
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: We didn't know what that meant.

928
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 9: My brother Tony said, no, no, no, we didn't come

929
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 9: here for government candoubts. We came here for the American opportunity,

930
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 9: for the American dream. You cannot achieved the American opportunity

931
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 9: and the American dream.

932
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,959
Speaker 1: Well, the government help.

933
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 9: If the government is guiding you, he sa impose it

934
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 9: stuff on you. You have to do it on your own.

935
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 9: And the way in your own is when the government

936
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 9: stays out of your life. And I hope that Americans

937
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 9: appreciate the fact that we hit an e raded government

938
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 9: with um rated powers.

939
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: Important.

940
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,479
Speaker 9: We're very clear that the government should never have more

941
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 9: than these enumerated powers, and we're losing that and we

942
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 9: should lose it.

943
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 2: Well, Peter Lamage, we need more people like you in

944
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 2: this country, not less. And your thoughts here today on

945
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: this I think are really terrific. Peter Lemage, how do

946
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 2: people find you? You're a strategist, you're an attorney, You're

947
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 2: a graduate of the Cardozos School of Law. How do

948
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 2: people find Peter Lomage.

949
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 1: I'm at Peter Lamage dot com. That's the website. The

950
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: other platforms are there.

951
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 9: I really appreciate this, and Happy thanks Giving, Merry Christmas

952
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 9: if we don't talk before, and then happy New Year

953
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 9: as well.

954
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 2: All right, Peter, good stuff and stay well. We need

955
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 2: to hear your voice. Thank you, thank you, sir, Yes, sir, yes, sir. Absolutely,

956
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 2: twenty thousand Americans eighty percent reject political violence. Love to

957
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 2: know what the other twenty percent or thinking one twenty

958
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 2: six on this Wednesday, it's the average American in for

959
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 2: the Great American Glad you're with us to seven hundred wlw.

960
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 9: Oh hello, hello, quiet, I'm Skulls.

961
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: I'm broadcasting you bully.

962
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 2: God shake. You look disappointed that I'm here and not

963
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 2: your boy Willie. Are you disappointed? Seriously? No, you're happy?

964
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 6: Well, I mean he's uh, he's in Florida. Probably look

965
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 6: looking at what an eight nine foot going left or

966
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 6: into his right, and probably you know, a couple couple

967
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 6: of big dollars are on the line, probably two bucks

968
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 6: a putt eight foot out.

969
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 2: It's probably a three foot for him.

970
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 6: Or he's he's taken a nap and getting ready for

971
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 6: the cafeteria today.

972
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 2: I understand it's chip beef. That's four o'clock. Maybe you

973
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 2: got to get there between four and five. Everything is creamed.

974
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 6: Everything you can take corn, take your dentures out and

975
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 6: suck it down. Ken Brew the stooge reporters of Proud Service,

976
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 6: every local Tamestar heating and air conditioning dealers Tamestar quality

977
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 6: you can feel in beautiful Milford, the home of one

978
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 6: Main Gallery and Little Miami Brewing. You call Baker Heating

979
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,280
Speaker 6: at five one three, eight, three, one fifty one twenty

980
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 6: four spots.

981
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 2: You know, I think I see those Baker guys in

982
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 2: there at Little Miami. Did I tell you I think

983
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 2: I've seen like their shirt wearing their shirts. I think

984
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:42,240
Speaker 2: I've seen them.

985
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 6: There Ken Brew, Ken Rosenthal and also Mark Sheldon is

986
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 6: reporting that the Reds are in have a serious interest

987
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 6: in one Kyle Schwarber and he is interested in a

988
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 6: potential homecoming.

989
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see what happens. They don't have the money.

990
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 2: I will to think they'd have the money, but I mean,

991
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 2: from what I'm reading here in this athletic report, he's

992
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 2: looking five years, one hundred and forty five million. Is

993
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 2: what are you looking at? And with the Reds only

994
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 2: having about twenty million to spend. You know, since Martinez

995
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 2: took a hike, I we'll see the Mets are in

996
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 2: play for him as well. So we'll see.

997
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 6: Let's see Hot Stove League tonight six oh five here

998
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 6: on seven hundred WLW Pitcher Reet Lauder will be the

999
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 6: special guest. Well, that's good college basketball. Miami goes to

1000
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 6: seven and oh they beat IU East last night. Dayton

1001
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 6: is seven and two after beating East Tennessee State, North

1002
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 6: Carolina got by Kentucky at Reperna sixty seven sixty four.

1003
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 2: That was a hell of a game. Wildcats are five

1004
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 2: and three. Yeah.

1005
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 6: NKU opens Horizon League play tonight, opening up and up

1006
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 6: against Cleveland State six point thirty, Fox Sports thirteen sixty.

1007
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 2: Wright State goes on again. It takes on Youngstown State.

1008
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 6: Let's see cross that skyline Chili Crossdown shootout update brought

1009
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 6: to you heartby Cincinnati Tech Resolution power by Tove Sheldon.

1010
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 6: Of course, the big game is Friday night, Cintas Center.

1011
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 6: The Bearcats, the the Muskies.

1012
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 2: I don't know, Seg. I mean, I've looked at Zabers

1013
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 2: playing a lot better lately. Yes, they are the Bearcats.

1014
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 2: They sputter, They look good one night the next night,

1015
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 2: and it depends on who they play. Now, obviously all

1016
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 2: this depends on who they play. But I know there

1017
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 2: is great, great nervousness in Clifton. There's a lot of

1018
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 2: nervousness there.

1019
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 6: Let's see high school football. It's Anderson, the Raptors up

1020
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 6: against Avon tomorrow. Talking about the fans, Seg. Not necessarily

1021
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 6: the team talk about the fans. You're going Thursday seven

1022
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:45,919
Speaker 6: o'clock Division two State football Championship, a rematch of last

1023
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,919
Speaker 6: year's final, and the Raptors are looking to go one

1024
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 6: game better.

1025
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 2: As the Raptors back then? Was that ever the Anderson Redskins?

1026
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 8: Right?

1027
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 2: But last year? But last year they were the Raptors.

1028
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 2: I mean that all that stuff happened.

1029
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 6: Okay, Division one state final course on Friday night, seven

1030
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 6: thirty and beautiful Canton.

1031
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 2: It'll be Saint X and Olan tangy Orange. I heard

1032
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 2: Rockney's given the pregame peptar.

1033
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 5: How about that?

1034
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 2: So I heard that. I don't know if it's true,

1035
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 2: but I heard that. I heard that today at lunch.

1036
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 2: Let's see college football.

1037
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 6: Ohio State offensive coordinator Brian Hartline expected to be named

1038
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 6: the next head coach at South Florida.

1039
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,879
Speaker 2: That's a blow. That's a blow to the boys, leaving

1040
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 2: the Buckeyes right wide receiver. You in Columbus.

1041
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 6: Let's see Bengals update, brought to you by Good Spirits,

1042
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 6: wine and Tobacco and Party Town. Bengals quarterback Caan Anderson

1043
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 6: now a finalist the Pro Football Hall of Fame class

1044
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:43,280
Speaker 6: of twenty twenty six.

1045
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1046
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:48,760
Speaker 6: The other finalists include Bill Belichick, Robert Kraft, Roger Craig

1047
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 6: and L. C.

1048
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 2: Greenwood. You know Anderson should have been in like ten

1049
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 2: years ago.

1050
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 5: Correct?

1051
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 6: They can only take one of that entire group, only

1052
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 6: one gets to go in, and everybody's thinking it's going

1053
00:55:59,280 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 6: to be Belichick.

1054
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean it's tough, but if I'm

1055
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 2: reading this correctly, only one from the entire group that

1056
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 2: we just mentioned is eligible.

1057
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 6: Also Bengals cour Bengals kicker Evan McPherson Moneymack is the

1058
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 6: AFC Special Teams Player of the Week, where his efforts

1059
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 6: in the win over Go Baltimore last Thanksgiving ninety perfect

1060
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 6: six for six and field goals and two for two

1061
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 6: and pat.

1062
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 2: Just make the one that counts, because you know that

1063
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 2: one's coming up. It's going to be like a two

1064
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 2: point lead they have to erase. Just make the one

1065
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 2: that counts, correct, Nobody cares about piling on. Make the

1066
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 2: one that counts.

1067
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 6: Let's see soccer. Former Mount Notre Dame star and NWSL

1068
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 6: champion Rose Levelle nominated for the US Soccer Female Player

1069
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 6: of the Year award. Wow, that's that's an honor just

1070
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 6: to be nominated for about that. That's that's pretty strong.

1071
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 6: I think it's next week they announced the winner. So

1072
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 6: years ago tonight, you know what happened.

1073
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 2: It was the Who concert concert yehund Front Coliseum forty

1074
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 2: six years ago, tonight, forty six years ago right now,

1075
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 2: eleven people were still alive.

1076
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 10: Uh.

1077
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 2: And that of course changed the way people attended concerts

1078
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 2: in this town. Really everywhere, I mean, festival seating was

1079
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 2: banned and everything was like that. I forget how many

1080
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 2: years ago it might have been. Five years ago. What

1081
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 2: Toddy O'Rourke had a great special on that whole thing,

1082
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 2: talked to talk to Pete Townsend, talked to Keith Moon,

1083
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 2: not Keith Moon, Keith Townsend and Roger Daltrey. Roger Daltrey,

1084
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 2: thank you. I saw that.

1085
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 6: I remember, I remember when I saw that this morning,

1086
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 6: I thought, you know what, I remember her talking to

1087
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 6: them and that band was that band was really affected

1088
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 6: by the whole thing. They I guess they figured they

1089
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Speaker 6: said they shouldn't it should have never went to the

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Speaker 6: next town.

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Speaker 2: You know, I produced my share of documentaries in my time,

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Speaker 2: and I've seen a lot done. That might have been

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Speaker 2: the best documentary I've ever seen.

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Speaker 5: Great.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you know, maybe they'll rerun that tonight. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know who knows. Seguy forty six years

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Speaker 2: ago tonight was you know, one of those knights that

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Speaker 2: live in the proverbial infamy. That's what it is. Unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Seg well, you're doing well, you look well, you go,

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Speaker 2: you're going there. We've got the big client party here today.

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Speaker 2: Are you going to that?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You're yeah. What do you think we're going to have?

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Speaker 2: What do you think we're going to have?

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Speaker 1: Here?

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Speaker 6: Say?

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Speaker 2: What kind of food? Because they've got it under wraps,

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Speaker 2: They've got like four salespeople guarding it right now.

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Speaker 6: I think it's going to be prime rib, primary green beans,

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Speaker 6: mashed potatoes.

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Speaker 2: Wow, and a roll? You think prime reb?

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Speaker 1: Really?

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Speaker 6: Well? Maybe on a smaller scale. I thought Arby's because

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Speaker 6: it's right across the street.

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 6: I was under ye, maybe maybe maybe the clients who

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Speaker 6: have restaurants are bringing it in.

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Speaker 2: I thought, maybe we're going to get some beef and cheddars.

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Speaker 2: But you think it could be prime rib? No, I

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Speaker 2: don't think so. Wow, that would Now, that would be

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Speaker 2: a party, that's for sure. I once want to here.

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Speaker 2: I will not name the station, but I want when

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Speaker 2: it went to a Christmas party, Yes station that I

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Speaker 2: worked for, sir, and they actually charged you admission to

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Speaker 2: get in. I said, what everybody got there and it

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Speaker 2: was ten dollars to get into your station Christmas party.

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Speaker 2: Where'd they have it as some establishment or so they

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Speaker 2: rented out. No, it was like this hotel and they

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Speaker 2: and they rented a room out and you get to

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Speaker 2: the door and there's the general manager's secretary is sitting

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Speaker 2: at a table and she's pay her ten bucks cash

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Speaker 2: to get in. I'm thinking, what a lot of people

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Speaker 2: just say the hell with that. I'm going to the

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Speaker 2: bar for ten bucks. This was a while back. Ten

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Speaker 2: bucks you get like three beers, don't get any ideas,

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Speaker 2: just saying, seig, the whole world's out of whack and

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Speaker 2: it's a little rough one. We're the only ones in lockstep,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean? That's for sure? Ken Brew

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Speaker 2: is what is that aging veteran back here? I'm not

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Speaker 2: in tomorrow? Is he in tomorrow?

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Speaker 6: No, he's out until I think he comes back Saturday

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Speaker 6: or Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Right, okay, you bigger? He flies coach? Do you think

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Speaker 2: he goes first class?

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Speaker 6: I think he finally got that private plane that they

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Speaker 6: offered him when he was doing his show in New York.

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Speaker 2: Dis custom mate, and I think they finally they finally said,

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Speaker 2: oh here take it. That's single engine prop right war exactly.

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Speaker 6: Too, like one of those planes in Indiana. Jones SEG,

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Speaker 6: that's all I got. You'll be back here in several minutes.

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Speaker 6: I'll have more thoughts that I want to impart upon you.

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Speaker 6: You got ken Brew, always got to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: Well, think I got a good idea too. But get

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Speaker 2: us out of this whatever this.

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Speaker 6: Is it, we're in ken Brew and honor of this Wednesday,

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Speaker 6: we leave you with the immortal words of the stood report.

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Speaker 6: I have yet another vision that it was clear now

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01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 6: and my crystallized cylindrical pulsating sphere right see a rope

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Speaker 6: on man with cherry cheeks and a hearty laugh, prancing.

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Speaker 11: About in the snow. No, it's not Santa Claus. It's

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Speaker 11: Brian Kelly.

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Speaker 5: The Wow.

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Speaker 6: The writing on that show ken Brew should have won awards,

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Speaker 6: and that show should have won yeah.

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Speaker 2: Or it should have gotten or it should have gotten canceled,

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Speaker 2: which is what happened.

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Speaker 6: Bring them back, Bring them back, Go to me TV,

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Speaker 6: bring bring back, bring back, bring back sports rock me

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Speaker 6: all right, sig on seven hundred WLW to a wait

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Speaker 6: News Radio seven hundred w l W. The average American

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Speaker 6: and for the great American on this Wednesday. Glad you

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Speaker 6: are with us as well well, if you're scoring and

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Speaker 6: keeping track of these things. The next government shutdown is

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Speaker 6: scheduled for January the thirtieth of next year. That would

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Speaker 6: be January the thirtieth of the end of next month. Yes,

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Speaker 6: the things that brought us forty days of living hell

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Speaker 6: could rear its ugly head early in the new calendar year.

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Speaker 6: And at the center of it all is funding for Obamacare.

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Speaker 2: Now a little history. Obamacare was voted in, as you

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Speaker 2: well know, and named after the president that was in

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Speaker 2: office and pushed for it in the late two thousands,

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Speaker 2: two thousand and nine, twenty ten somewhere in that area,

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Speaker 2: and the Republicans, when they got control of the House

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Speaker 2: in the Senate, tried to pare it down somewhat, the

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Speaker 2: Skinny Bill. Of course, that famously resulted in John McCain

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Speaker 2: walking down the aisle at the last moment and doing

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Speaker 2: thumbs down. And so much for that, And Obamacare is

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Speaker 2: basically chugged along, almost collapsing under its own weight ever since.

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Speaker 2: But what shut down the government, according to the current

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Speaker 2: group of Democrats, for forty days was the fact that

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Speaker 2: these temporary subsidies that were put in place by the

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Speaker 2: Biden administration in the wake of COVID make sure everybody

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Speaker 2: who had Obamacare had enough money to get health care.

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Speaker 2: They're expiring, and the current group of Democrats wanted those

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Speaker 2: things to be part of a permanent deal. It's not

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Speaker 2: a good idea, it doesn't make sense. In fact, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't make sense to a lot of Democrats, but nevertheless

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Speaker 2: that's what united them. Health Care in this country's broken.

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Speaker 2: It's broken out a number of levels, not the least

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Speaker 2: of which in Obamacare, but just on a number of

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Speaker 2: different levels. But Obamacare is here. You're not going to

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Speaker 2: get rid of it. You have to make it more

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Speaker 2: palatable both to not only the people that are funding it,

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Speaker 2: but the people that are using it. Can't vote against

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Speaker 2: Santa Claus. You're not going to vote the thing out.

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Speaker 2: So what are you going to do to to try

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Speaker 2: and fix this thing? And what now will be a

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Speaker 2: very short amount of time before what could be another

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Speaker 2: government shutdown over this thing in about seven weeks. Standing

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Speaker 2: by the way, in is the smartest man there is

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Speaker 2: an America, in my opinion, when it comes to health care.

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Speaker 2: He's written a book called the sixty percent solution rethinking healthcare.

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Speaker 2: He's a good guest of this program. He is Todd Furnis. Todd,

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Speaker 2: how are you on this glorious day?

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Speaker 10: I am doing dandy, Ken, Thank you so much for

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Speaker 10: having me today.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about how you fix

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Speaker 2: Obamacare because it's been kicked down the road. Kicked down

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Speaker 2: the road, Republicans seem to have no real plan. They've

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Speaker 2: come up with something called the Health Reimbursement Arrangements HRA

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Speaker 2: as an alternative to what the current system is. But

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Speaker 2: the fact of the matter is it's not fixed. It's

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Speaker 2: ready to implode, and the Democrats don't want to give

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Speaker 2: up what they have. They want more money thrown into it.

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Speaker 2: So Todd Furnis is now in charge of fixing Obamacare.

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Speaker 2: Where do you start?

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Speaker 10: Well, I would challenge the original thesis, which is Obamacare

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Speaker 10: did not give anybody access to healthcare, not one person.

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Speaker 10: Obamacare gave people an expensive way to pay insurance companies

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Speaker 10: for insurance companies to pay for somebody else's medical expenses.

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Speaker 1: And there's a big difference there.

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Speaker 10: If I said, hey, Ken, I'd love for you to

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Speaker 10: pay my bills, you would say, well, I ought to

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Speaker 10: know what those bills are.

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Speaker 1: Going to be, shouldn't I?

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Speaker 10: And I said, well, yeah, but you got to take

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Speaker 10: that chance because I don't know what the bills are

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Speaker 10: going to be. Well, you say, well, I'm gonna have

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Speaker 10: to build in a model that gives me a lot

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Speaker 10: of wiggle room for the risks that I'm taking because

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Speaker 10: you don't know what your bills are going to be,

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Speaker 10: and I don't know what your bills are going to be,

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Speaker 10: because remember, insurance is paying me in advance for something

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Speaker 10: statistical and probably statistically improbable to occur to you. In

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Speaker 10: other words, it's unlikely to happen to you, but if

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Speaker 10: it does, I'm going to pay for it. And then

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Speaker 10: then if I do pay for it, I've got to

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Speaker 10: build in the overhead and I've also got to build

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Speaker 10: in a margin to cover that expense. So what that

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Speaker 10: means it is one out of one hundred percent of

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Speaker 10: the time, it's going to be a lot more expensive

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Speaker 10: for you to have somebody else pay your bills.

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Speaker 1: I don't know when.

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Speaker 10: You say I was the smartest guy in healthcare, I was.

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Speaker 10: First of all, I got to tell you I was

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Speaker 10: disappointed I was only in healthcare, but I don't think

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Speaker 10: I'm smart at all. I think that's just really just

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Speaker 10: basic walking around stuff. So you know, maybe we think

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Speaker 10: about things differently here in Texas, but that's the way

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Speaker 10: I think about it is it's always going to be

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Speaker 10: more expensive if you have somebody else paid for it. Now,

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Speaker 10: the reimbursement plan that is being kind of kicked around

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Speaker 10: as saying, hey, you know what, this Obamacare thing doesn't

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Speaker 10: make any sense. So what we're going to do is

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Speaker 10: we're not going to pay the insurance companies the subsidies

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Speaker 10: that are coming out of the Obamacare extension, because that's

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Speaker 10: what they are. What they're doing is they're saying, we're

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Speaker 10: going to pay the insurance companies directly to subsidize the

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Speaker 10: healthcare you're getting to the corresponding ACA marketplace.

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Speaker 1: Well, that doesn't make any sense either. What you're saying

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Speaker 1: is these.

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Speaker 10: Subsidies are essentially saying, I'm giving money directly to the

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Speaker 10: insurance companies again to pay for the bills that you're

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Speaker 10: going to incur.

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Speaker 2: Right, So just I'll stop it. Can I just put

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Speaker 2: the brakes on right here to explain what h ris are.

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Speaker 5: This is.

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Speaker 2: I guess the plan that some Republicans want. Basically, as

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Speaker 2: I read it, it allows employers to set aside tax

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Speaker 2: free dollars for their employees to use on medical expenses

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Speaker 2: for themselves the families. The employer does not pay payroll

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Speaker 2: taxes on the contribution, and it literally extracts what are

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Speaker 2: basically direct payments to these health insurers. Am I right?

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Speaker 10: Yes, Now it's a little bit The question you haven't

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Speaker 10: asked is you said, hey, cod you know you kind

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Speaker 10: of talk about this in your book one hundred years

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Speaker 10: ago that you wrote, which is because it's.

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Speaker 1: Very analogous to something called the fessay and the essay.

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Speaker 10: So the fssay is a flexible spending account and that's

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Speaker 10: another employer and employee funded opportunity to ask that question.

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Speaker 2: I was going to ask that question next, Todd, but

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Speaker 2: go ahead. I was about I was about to ask

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Speaker 2: that question next, but you said as the question I was.

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Speaker 6: Going to say, Todd, just give me a chance to

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Speaker 6: get through these questions.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 10: Well, we're on number five, and keep you if you're

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Speaker 10: keeping support home. So the the health reimbursement is a

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Speaker 10: little bit different because that's funded by the employer. The

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Speaker 10: flexible spending account is primarily funded by the employee through

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Speaker 10: pre tax payroll deductions, but employers can also contribute. The

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Speaker 10: problem is that with an FSSA, if you don't use

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Speaker 10: the money at the end of the by the end

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Speaker 10: of the calendar year, it goes back to the employer.

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Speaker 1: Right and uh by.

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Speaker 10: Contrast with a health savings account, which is actually interview

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Speaker 10: back in twenty three hundred George W.

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Speaker 4: Bush by a.

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Speaker 10: Guy named John Goodman, who is the guy who you are,

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Speaker 10: was the architect of that. Without saving the account, you

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Speaker 10: the employee gets to use the money and keep the money,

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Speaker 10: and you can invest it in. The money stays the

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Speaker 10: under the ownership of the employee, and it's also pre

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Speaker 10: tax dollars, right, And who's putting the money in and

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Speaker 10: who gets to keep it at the end of the year.

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Speaker 2: And Obamacare basically prohibited hr is from being used to

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Speaker 2: purchase coverage right for the individual, and then Trump put

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Speaker 2: it back in in twenty nineteen, and then Biden didn't

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Speaker 2: mess with it.

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Speaker 1: So you may be the smartest guy in healthcare.

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Speaker 2: God bought the smartest guy in healthcare.

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Speaker 12: I just read your book.

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Speaker 2: But the fact of the matter, the fact of the

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Speaker 2: matter is it ain't working, and the Democrats wanted to

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Speaker 2: put all of this, make all of these these emergency

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Speaker 2: this emergency funding that occurred during COVID, they wanted to

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Speaker 2: make them permanent. And even if people like the Congressional

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Speaker 2: Budget Office said that if you extended those things, your

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Speaker 2: deficit would probably go up three hundred and fifty to

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Speaker 2: four hundred billion over ten years, and that another's probably

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Speaker 2: fifty to sixty billion in interest costs. So that's not working,

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Speaker 2: and they're probably going to come back with the same thing.

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Speaker 2: So if you're if you're there and you've got the Republicans,

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Speaker 2: you got the Democrats in the room, and you say, okay,

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Speaker 2: Obamacare is not going to I mean, whatever it was,

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Speaker 2: you're not going to vote against Santa Claus. Nobody wants that. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Then how do we make this thing viable and something

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Speaker 2: that isn't going to unplode from its own weight. What

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Speaker 2: would you do.

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Speaker 10: If you start up with a problem that is solved

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Speaker 10: using bailing wire and duct tape, adding more bailing wire

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Speaker 10: and duct tape is seldom a permanent conclusion. And so

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Speaker 10: I have a problem with the premise, which is fixing Obamacare.

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Speaker 10: You can't fix Obamacare. It's unfixable. That's the challenge. And

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Speaker 10: so people have in their mind that Obamacare somehow was

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Speaker 10: a good thing. I never believed that it never was

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Speaker 10: a good thing, and so I think we need to

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Speaker 10: sketch out a different plan. It starts with a different

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Speaker 10: set of structures and incentives if.

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Speaker 1: We want to. You know what, here's the other.

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Speaker 10: Thing we have talked a lot about in the public

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Speaker 10: commentary in the last several months about this guy in

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Speaker 10: New York City called Mamdami, right, and we talked about

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Speaker 10: socialism and what FDR did when he created this model

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Speaker 10: of allowing corporations to deduct healthcare benefits as a business

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Speaker 10: expense without taxing the recipient as compensation. What he really

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Speaker 10: did was create another flavor of socialism called corporate socialism.

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Speaker 10: He's moving the obligations of the individual not to the

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Speaker 10: federal go because FIFTR knew he would never get that passed.

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Speaker 10: He moved it to the corporation and said, hey, you

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Speaker 10: the corporation are going to be responsible for this, and

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Speaker 10: as a result, we're not taxed. The issue that nobody's

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Speaker 10: talking about is this is in fact a form of compensation,

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Speaker 10: but the individual employee is not getting tax on it. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: And if you really wanted to solve the problem in

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Speaker 10: a way that would make everybody uncomfortable and be kind

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Speaker 10: very controversial, you say, no, let's recognize it for what

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Speaker 10: it is.

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Speaker 1: This is compensation to the employee. If you did that

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Speaker 1: and employees paid.

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Speaker 10: Tax on the compensation, down many on the benefits has compensation,

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Speaker 10: it's about three quarters of a trillion dollars that would

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Speaker 10: go back to the federal treasury.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's got that doesn't have legs politically. I mean,

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Speaker 6: we know that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's no way that the Democrats are going

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Speaker 2: to say, Okay, we're going to give you. You're going

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Speaker 2: to have to pay tax now on this.

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Speaker 10: But I can completely agree with that. I completely agree

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Speaker 10: with that. But at the same time, you and people

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Speaker 10: are saying, well, we have to find we have to

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Speaker 10: fix it somehow. Okay, Well, fixing the catastrophe that is

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Speaker 10: Obamacare is not going to be the answer because the

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Speaker 10: yere's the other thing that's happening.

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Speaker 1: And I think I may have shared this with you before, Ken.

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Speaker 10: What we're also doing is in the public hospitals, we're

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Speaker 10: moving the financial burden for those who have ACA plans

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Speaker 10: to the local county taxpayer.

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Speaker 1: So what's happening is because the ACA.

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Speaker 10: Plans are typically high deductible, and the people who have

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Speaker 10: those plans are typically unable to pay that deductible, then

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Speaker 10: the county hospitals are only collecting about ten cents on

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Speaker 10: the dollar of what they would get reimbursed if they

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Speaker 10: were getting paid through Medicaid. So what's happening is you're saying, Okay,

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Speaker 10: we want all this money, all these ACA plans. The

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Speaker 10: Fed's going to subsidize some of that, but where the

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Speaker 10: money's really coming out of is the county taxpayer at

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Speaker 10: the local level.

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Speaker 1: And nobody's talking about that.

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Speaker 2: No, Well, you're the first that actually brought it up,

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Speaker 2: at least on my show that that's going on. So okay,

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Speaker 2: so Obamacare, okay, so we're fixing Obamacare here in the

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Speaker 2: next three minutes. So what you're saying is Obamacare doesn't work.

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Speaker 2: The premise of it was just flawed from jump, so

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Speaker 2: we have to replace it. And these HRAs look encouraging.

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Speaker 2: They do. I'm not sure you're going to get a

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Speaker 2: lot of You're going to get political pushback for a

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Speaker 2: lot of different reasons. Simply because it's an election year

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Speaker 2: next year, and I don't know if you're going to

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Speaker 2: be able to get everybody into a room and agree

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Speaker 2: on this thing, but it's certainly something that is going

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Speaker 2: to be very much in the political forefront for the

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Speaker 2: off year elections. So the shout the loudest voices, as

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Speaker 2: you well know Todd wind up on cable channels. But

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Speaker 2: the people that get things done are people that you

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Speaker 2: don't even know their names who they represent. So I'm

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Speaker 2: just wondering, what do you think the chances are, I mean,

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Speaker 2: realistic chances of getting this thing last sewed in so

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Speaker 2: that the seven percent of Americans who actually use Obamacare

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Speaker 2: insurance won't be left out in the cold and the

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Speaker 2: rest of us won't be just taxed to the hilt

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Speaker 2: to try and pay for it.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and you know, I go back to we've been

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Speaker 10: having a conversation as a nation about healthcare and who

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Speaker 10: pays for it for at least.

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Speaker 1: Eighty years.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say at least since the end

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Speaker 2: of World War Two.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, but he was actually Baylor down in Dallas where

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Speaker 10: they were for fifty bucks a month they would take

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Speaker 10: care of teachers, and so the first time the federal

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Speaker 10: government ever got involved was actually under John Adams because

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Speaker 10: we had sailors who were coming over with.

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Speaker 1: Scurvy and they were incurring.

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Speaker 10: Medical expenses, and so they were taxing five cent nickel

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Speaker 10: basically for every sailor. So I've been talking about it

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Speaker 10: for quite a while.

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Speaker 1: HR is an interesting idea.

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Speaker 10: It's fairly new, and anything that new necessarily.

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Speaker 1: Has an adoption problem.

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Speaker 10: But it's a fairly new idea and it's going to

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01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 10: probably run into some headwinds because it's going to be

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Speaker 10: a tax benefit to the company, and the folks on

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Speaker 10: the left typically hate anything that's a tax benefit to

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01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 10: the company, right, But I don't like taxing the companies.

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Speaker 10: They don't like tax benefits, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, inevitably, you're going to blame the one percent. Ineforably,

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Speaker 2: you're going to blame corporations. And inevitably it's going to

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01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 2: be the Republican's love corporations. And look, they're not taking

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Speaker 2: care of the little guy. But the little guy is

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Speaker 2: going to get left at the post. I just I

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Speaker 2: think it's going to be fascinating Tom because we have

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Speaker 2: the the off year elections and now there's a push

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Speaker 2: by the Democrats to, you know, just extend these things

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Speaker 2: for three years, these these emergency subsidies, and then you're

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Speaker 2: right up against the presidential election. See, all of it's

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Speaker 2: couched against politics, which is what I think plays into

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Speaker 2: what you just said. We've kicked the can down the

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Speaker 2: road so much on this that it's become a political game,

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Speaker 2: not necessarily a healthcare game, and the only people that

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Speaker 2: seem to be doing well are the insurance companies. And

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Speaker 2: I think that's where that's where we are right.

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Speaker 10: Now, and that lands up in Luigi Mongoni right shooting

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Speaker 10: the guy from you know, but I think that the

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Speaker 10: other issue that you're correctly pointing out here is that

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Speaker 10: it's it's it feels like it's an intractable solution, but

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Speaker 10: a problem. But you know, the other problem that I

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Speaker 10: kind of tongue in cheek as hurt is it goes

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Speaker 10: back to the clear failure of the education system because

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Speaker 10: the Democrats have clearly not understood the definition of the

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Speaker 10: word temporary, right, because these were never supposed to be

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Speaker 10: permanent subsidies, and now they're saying, wait a minute, how

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Speaker 10: can you leave us out on the cold? These were well,

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Speaker 10: the they were always supposed to be temporary. And guess

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Speaker 10: what it was the Democrats that made it temporary.

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Speaker 1: There wasn't a weak thing that we said, Hey, let's

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Speaker 1: go do this temporary thing. It's a good idea.

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Speaker 10: So I think there's a we really need to get

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01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 10: back to the core issues of how do we pay

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01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 10: for stuff? And the models that have always worked one

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01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,640
Speaker 10: hundred percent of the time is when people pay for

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01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 10: stuff themselves, and it never works when you have somebody

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Speaker 10: else pay It's just another form, like I said, of

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Speaker 10: corporate socialism, a relicive FDR.

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Speaker 2: That's why you're the smartest man in the healthcare industry.

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Speaker 2: His book is The sixty Percent Solution, Rethinking Healthcare. Todd's

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Speaker 2: due for another book. I'm just telling you, you got

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Speaker 2: to get another one out there, Todd Furnas you stay well,

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Speaker 2: you know we'll be in touchdown the road. Thanks for

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01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 2: your insight today. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. My friend take care.

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Speaker 2: Yep, he's due for another book. He's been living off

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Speaker 2: this one far too long. But you know, it was

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Speaker 2: just on CBS this week. I was watching a congressman

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Speaker 2: from California. I believe his last name was Lecardo. I

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Speaker 2: don't know his first name, can't remember it, but he

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01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 2: said that the push by some of these other dams

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Speaker 2: in Congress to extend these Obamacare subsidies for three years

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Speaker 2: is kind of cynical because you're right up against the

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Speaker 2: presidential election year. Then they had a Kylie who was

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Speaker 2: a Republican from California. He was on there too, and

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01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 2: he said, you know, it's yeah if you do it,

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01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 2: but if you just do it through twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 2: you're up against the midterms after that. I mean, they

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Speaker 2: this is a political hot potato and there's no easy

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01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 2: answer to it. But if they get to health reimbursement

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Speaker 2: arrangements where the insurance companies aren't getting paid but the

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Speaker 2: individual employee gets the money to determine his or her

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Speaker 2: healthcare path and don't tax that, I mean that sounds

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01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 2: like everybody walks away happy. Sure, the corporations are the

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Speaker 2: ones are the other ones that would benefit from it,

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Speaker 2: But so what if you and I benefit from it?

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Speaker 2: What's wrong with that? Sure, are wasting a lot of

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Speaker 2: tax dollars on anything everything else in this country, aren't we?

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Speaker 2: I'm down off my soapbox. It's two twenty seven. News

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01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 2: Radio seven hundred w wel w.

1518
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 11: I have yet have another vision that has become clear

1519
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 11: now and my crystallized cyindrical pulsating sphere, I see a

1520
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:26,799
Speaker 11: roton man with cherry cheeks and a hearty laugh, prancing

1521
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 11: about in the snow. No, it's not Santa Claus. It's

1522
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:31,719
Speaker 11: Brian Kelly.

1523
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 1: Hello, quiet, and I'm I'm broadcasting.

1524
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:46,800
Speaker 2: So good to see you again. Same here, ken Brew,

1525
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 2: the rock is here to what do you think I

1526
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,639
Speaker 2: have cataracts? I'm looking right at the guess jack and see.

1527
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:55,720
Speaker 2: Good to see your rock. You look great. You're all

1528
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 2: dressed up for the Christmas part?

1529
01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 5: Oh?

1530
01:20:57,240 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 7: Absolutely? What my reindeer costume on? As you can see,

1531
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 7: I can see that. That's right.

1532
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 2: Are you prancer or acer dancer? Yes?

1533
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 12: Much more, much more effeminate reindeer.

1534
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:11,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1535
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:13,799
Speaker 2: So what what what is expected of us at this

1536
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 2: this gathering today? What do we have to do besides it?

1537
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:19,760
Speaker 7: That's how I plan on really doing. But now we're

1538
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 7: supposed to you know, wine dine and pocket line.

1539
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 6: Pocket line wine dine and pocket line yese best. Nobody

1540
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 6: leaves without a three year bonus. Ly no contact of commercials.

1541
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 6: Nobody seg year deal. The sales department has done such

1542
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 6: a great job. We only have a few minutes here,

1543
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 6: so why don't you get us rolling? Ken Bruthy as

1544
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1549
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Speaker 2: Dot com Western Hills right correct. Who's the most famous

1550
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 2: singer ever to come out of Western Hills High School?

1551
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 2: Pete Rose Andy Williams. How about that turn? If he

1552
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:15,639
Speaker 2: were alive, he'd be ninety eight years old today Today

1553
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 2: was his birthday. See here he is. Yeah, he got

1554
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 2: to play it. It's got to start singing on this

1555
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:21,759
Speaker 2: radio station.

1556
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:24,719
Speaker 1: It's the most wonderful time.

1557
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 12: See that's why I like your show.

1558
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 7: I had I've heard this song ten thousand times in

1559
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 7: my life, and I had no idea.

1560
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 12: You're telling me. The guy singing this song went to

1561
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 12: West High.

1562
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:35,400
Speaker 2: Went to West High.

1563
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, went to West High, and I think when he

1564
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 6: was maybe like a senior, they moved out to Los Angeles.

1565
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:43,679
Speaker 2: You were in the drama department at sant.

1566
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 7: X one Iran. It yeah, absolutely, medal winner two years

1567
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:47,680
Speaker 7: in a row.

1568
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 2: A lot of drama before those report cards came out right,

1569
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 2: two or three days before. It's a lot of drama.

1570
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's the employment allis there was for sure.

1571
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 3: All right.

1572
01:22:57,080 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 2: See what's going on at sports?

1573
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 6: Throw the Bengals for working out outside the next couple

1574
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 6: of days, getting ready for that, getting used to that

1575
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 6: Buffalo weather they're going to face on Sunday. Trey Hendrickson's

1576
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 6: not going to practice again. Imagine that t Higgins limited

1577
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:16,600
Speaker 6: in practice. He's working through that concussion protocol Bacon progress,

1578
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 6: but don't know whether or not he'll be available on

1579
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:19,680
Speaker 6: Sunday or not.

1580
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:21,639
Speaker 2: We'll wait and see. Rok, what do you think about

1581
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 2: that on Sunday? I mean I could see if the

1582
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 2: Bengals always handle the Bills well. But this is a

1583
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 2: huge game for the Bills, right, I mean they're still

1584
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 2: chasing the paper.

1585
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 12: Yeah, they're still chasing it. You know, the Bengals are

1586
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 12: inspired by Joe Burrow.

1587
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 7: The Bengals defense have looked better the last two weeks,

1588
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:38,400
Speaker 7: so you know, and there's something to play for you

1589
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 7: win out, which is not easy, and then the Ravens

1590
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 7: and the Steelers split, saying there's a chance.

1591
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,720
Speaker 2: What happens if they beat the Bills and they beat

1592
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 2: the Ravens and then lose to the Dolphins. That's not good.

1593
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 12: We cry and cry and cry.

1594
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 6: Yes, Bengals kicker Evan McPherson is the ASC Special Teams

1595
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 6: Player of the Week with his efforts in the Ravens win.

1596
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 6: They went perfect six for six and field goals money

1597
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:06,759
Speaker 6: man and two for two and pats unbelievable. Ken Anderson

1598
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 6: finalist the Pro Football Hall of Fame class of twenty twenty.

1599
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 2: Six should be in there already. Amen.

1600
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 6: Anderson takes on Avon tomorrow night in Canton for the

1601
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 6: Division two title. The Bombers go at it Friday night. Yes,

1602
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 6: you made Anderson High School. Ken Anderson isn't taking on Avon,

1603
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 6: right he should? I think I think he's playing for

1604
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 6: the Raptors. But don't tell anybody, Okay, don't tell him. Okay,

1605
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 6: you know always looking here, you know the other for

1606
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 6: the Ken Anderson. I mean, it's gonna be tough. You

1607
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:38,639
Speaker 6: got to get eighty percent of the vote.

1608
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 2: You got Belichick and you got Brady on that and

1609
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 2: that could be some drama they both get in. Robert Craft. Yeah, yeah,

1610
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 2: Robert Craft in Belichick, I'm sorry, yes, thank you for

1611
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 2: correcting me on it. Anyway, I was going back looking

1612
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 2: at some statistics here at Rocky. Do you remember the

1613
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 2: two thousand and six season you guys played the Colts

1614
01:24:57,080 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 2: played the Patriots up in New England. You beat him

1615
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty.

1616
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:03,679
Speaker 12: You remember that in two thousand and seven, yes.

1617
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was that magical year.

1618
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 5: That was.

1619
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think what the dead. No, you played

1620
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 2: in November fifth of two thousand and six.

1621
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 7: Okay, no, you're yeah, you're talking about the sixth season

1622
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 7: we played in an AFC Italium, but that was at

1623
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 7: our place, right, Yes.

1624
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 2: You played no in two thousand and six, you played

1625
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 2: them in New England, rock I got the stats here

1626
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:22,760
Speaker 2: right in front of me.

1627
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 12: That was the regular season game in the AFC title.

1628
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 2: I'm talking about that regular season Yeah, Corry Della had

1629
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 2: a couple of touchdowns. Vine Terry was going crazy. You

1630
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 2: played in that game, So I mean you probably sent

1631
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:41,960
Speaker 2: both Belichick and Craft home unhappy into that wilderness that

1632
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:42,759
Speaker 2: is New England.

1633
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 12: Magical year.

1634
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 2: Yes, I believe, I said Dallas Clark. Yeah, Joseph and Die,

1635
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 2: you had a great team. Marvin Harrison.

1636
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 7: The Colt now, Robert Bob said, Sanders of safety, the

1637
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:58,679
Speaker 7: eraser Colts now are a little bit of in a crisis.

1638
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 7: We have Sauce Garner's right.

1639
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 2: They got a quarterbacks, got a broken leg that's playing

1640
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 2: on a fractured leg. Say continue, please.

1641
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 6: College basketball tonight, NKU opens up Horizon League play, taking

1642
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:14,719
Speaker 6: on Cleveland State six point thirty on Fox Sports thirteen sixty.

1643
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 6: Among the one of the Reds that'll be making their

1644
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:27,559
Speaker 6: appearance at Redsfest next month, Andrew Abbott, Graham Ashcraft, TJ. Friedel, Also,

1645
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 6: Terry Francona and his coaching staff, brons At Arroyo, Oh,

1646
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 6: Skeeter Barnes, Skeeter Barnhardt the Cowboy, they're digging them up.

1647
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:43,639
Speaker 6: Sean Casey, Danny Graves, Wow, Devin Mezzeraco, De Infamous. Dave Miley,

1648
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:45,839
Speaker 6: Dave Miley, Sam LeCure.

1649
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 2: You know Dave Miley. I was in Tampa when Dave

1650
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 2: Miley was a high school athlete, and Dave Miley was

1651
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:54,639
Speaker 2: a better football player than he was a baseball player.

1652
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:56,800
Speaker 2: And he was a great baseball player. Miley could have

1653
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:59,599
Speaker 2: played in the NFL. That's how good he was about

1654
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 2: that could have played in the NFL. It looks like

1655
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:06,080
Speaker 2: got Brian Hartline is off to South Florid, Florida. Yeah,

1656
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 2: going to Ryan.

1657
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 6: Day says he's gonna continue on coaching the Buckeyes.

1658
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 2: See how far they go?

1659
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:16,799
Speaker 7: Ken Brew, Are you as upset as I am about

1660
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 7: here we are? It's the end of the college football season,

1661
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 7: the part were it's supposed to be more fun than ever,

1662
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 7: and we got the you know, the bowl games coming,

1663
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 7: the playoff coming, and it's a mess. There's coaches going everywhere,

1664
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 7: leaving teams. The playoff is a disaster too. You got

1665
01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:35,639
Speaker 7: a seven and five duke team playing the ACC title game.

1666
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 7: No one knows who's going in, who's not going in.

1667
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 12: It's a mess. It's supposed to be one on the

1668
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 12: best part of the year and it's a mess.

1669
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 2: And the Ohio University he's not there. Nobody knows why

1670
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 2: he was. Just that's walked into a meet the idea

1671
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:52,680
Speaker 2: apparently walked into a coaches meeting, told everybody to get out,

1672
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:54,720
Speaker 2: and then told the head coach go away, you're on leave.

1673
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:55,799
Speaker 2: Nobody knows why.

1674
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 7: Well, I have Chuck Martin at five of five. Can

1675
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 7: maybe I'll ask him, he'll know I do Chuck.

1676
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 2: Is Chuck Martin the best coach in the back.

1677
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 12: I mean, he's the best coach in America. I think

1678
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 12: he's fantastic. He's so good.

1679
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:16,439
Speaker 2: They overschedule, they get the paydays early on, and then man,

1680
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:18,680
Speaker 2: he's ready to go. His quarterback quit on him. He's

1681
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 2: that's some guy never heard of. I thought it would

1682
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 2: got The guy's kid's name is Gutkowski. I thought it

1683
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 2: was the kicker that used to be with with New England.

1684
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 2: Look what he's done. The kid was the red shirt

1685
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 2: freshman throwing three three touchdown passes last week. And Chuck

1686
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 2: Martin's the best football coach in the back. You may

1687
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 2: be writing, maybe the best football coach in the matter.

1688
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 12: I've been saying for a while.

1689
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 7: Ken, you know everybody's looking for the next hot young

1690
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:46,680
Speaker 7: offensive coordinator to become the next head coach of this

1691
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 7: and that. Well why not go to Kurt Signetti model

1692
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 7: right of a guy who's just won, the guy who

1693
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 7: just wins. And Chuck Martin, whether it's a Grand Valley

1694
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 7: State or Miami, he just wins. He knows the ins

1695
01:28:57,040 --> 01:28:58,720
Speaker 7: and outs of how to run a program through the

1696
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 7: ups and the downs and the portal and all that

1697
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:02,599
Speaker 7: get a guy.

1698
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 2: Like, hey, you guys, ever heard you? Guy's ever heard this?

1699
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 12: Absolutely?

1700
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:13,759
Speaker 2: You know who this is right? Yes, Black Sabbath. Today's

1701
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:18,600
Speaker 2: a monumental day for Black Sabbath rock. You know, in

1702
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 2: a good groove.

1703
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 12: This is right here.

1704
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 2: If he were alive today, Ozzie, Ozzie would be seventy

1705
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:28,800
Speaker 2: seven years old on day.

1706
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 7: How about that he's passed what about six months ago July,

1707
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 7: late July.

1708
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:36,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he did that that concert and like a

1709
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 6: week and a half later he was dead.

1710
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:38,599
Speaker 5: Gone.

1711
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's unbelievable.

1712
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 5: He's unbelievable.

1713
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 2: And heard your dog Elvis their rock?

1714
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:46,120
Speaker 12: Yeah, well dad, you say that can brew my dog.

1715
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:48,719
Speaker 12: He was sixteen years old, over retriever.

1716
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 2: Unbelievable. Was really?

1717
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 6: Was he named after Elvis Presley or Elvis Costello?

1718
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:56,920
Speaker 12: Elvis Presley because he is the king? Yes, the King

1719
01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:57,680
Speaker 12: is sixteen?

1720
01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 2: God bless God, bless that. That is a wonderful breed.

1721
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 2: I used to have a golden and I cried like

1722
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:05,800
Speaker 2: a baby to day she died. It was unbelievable, the

1723
01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 2: best unbelievable yes, take care of your pets absolutely. Well,

1724
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:11,719
Speaker 2: what do you got coming up rock at three o'clock?

1725
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:13,799
Speaker 2: I don't want to spend too much time here because

1726
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:16,519
Speaker 2: I know the agent veteran that you work with gets upset.

1727
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 2: What do you got coming up at three o'clock?

1728
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:20,880
Speaker 12: Well, first of all, Eddie's out again again.

1729
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:28,040
Speaker 2: I mean we've got he's gone more than Biden, and

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Speaker 2: Biden was gone the day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: So Jason Williams is in right out of the gate.

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Speaker 12: This would be fun. We have Jack Grinder on Attorney

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Speaker 12: to the Stars.

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Speaker 2: I don't know who is who is he?

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Speaker 5: And he's in a.

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Speaker 7: Local attorney and he wrote an OpEd about you know

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Speaker 7: there's a time you're a porch pirates, right, Kener you

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Speaker 7: steal the packages?

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Speaker 12: Well, he was asked a question if I set a

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Speaker 12: booby trap?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 12: You know you've seen those those videos where they they

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Speaker 12: steal the package and it blows up and it's like,

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Speaker 12: you know, pink dust or something.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he's gonna tell him if that's legal or not.

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Speaker 7: So I thought that was timely. That's why I gate

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Speaker 7: at three. I know it's not in New York. True,

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Speaker 7: they take the victim, they don't take the criminal.

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Speaker 12: In New York every single time. Yeah, and then at

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Speaker 12: four o'clock we have a woman coming on, a research

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Speaker 12: and author. I'm going to talk about Americans using AI

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Speaker 12: to choose their Christmas gifts?

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Speaker 7: Can people do anything on their own anymore? Do we

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Speaker 7: have to use AI to do everything? I mean literally everything?

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Speaker 2: That's why I take Seg shopping with me, Amen, Seg?

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Speaker 2: Is there anything else we need to get to before

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Speaker 2: we cut into Rocky's time? And who are you what today?

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Speaker 6: Jason, Jason Williams and Jason Williams and some woman that's

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Speaker 6: going to do some AI shopping for you, and some

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Speaker 6: guy that wants to blow up packages.

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Speaker 7: And it's another day on the editing Rocky shows.

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Speaker 2: I thought I was doing well. Nobody well and they

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Speaker 2: want to blow up?

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Speaker 6: Is the last three hours here with hey say get

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Speaker 6: us out of the Steward's Report.

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Speaker 2: We got to go mingle with the guests ken Brew

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Speaker 2: in honor of our Christmas party.

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Speaker 6: Today we leave you with the immortal words of the

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Speaker 6: stewd Report.

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Speaker 1: You got it. I will come on in time you

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Speaker 1: ask me, because I mean, there's there's no bigger highlight

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Speaker 1: than anybody could happen to be on the Bill Cunningham Show.

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Speaker 2: All the famer said, said said, who who.

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Speaker 5: Is that Ken?

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Speaker 2: That's Ken Anderson. Oh, I didn't know that. I didn't

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Speaker 2: recommend to JEMs.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Rock, you get older, man, your hearing goes.

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Speaker 8: You know that.

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01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 12: You know my dog Element he's alive, but he can't

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Speaker 12: hear anything.

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Speaker 2: Let me just say it, when you get older. The

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Speaker 2: second thing that.

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Speaker 12: Goes, we'll ponder the first thing in the in the

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Speaker 12: five o'clock hours, Ken

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Speaker 2: Two fifty five Dues Radio seven hundred W LW