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Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you that's that's interesting. Who else other

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Speaker 2: than Mike Vrabel would be named coach of the Year.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there was much competition for that. To

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Speaker 2: take a team that was four to thirteen and turn

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Speaker 2: them into a thirteen and four team the next year,

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Speaker 2: within that's unprecedented in NFL history. And to take the

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Speaker 2: Patriots back to the super Bowl from a year ago

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Speaker 2: when they were four and thirteen. I mean, if they're

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Speaker 2: a look, that's congratulations a coach for Abel. Now, yesterday,

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Speaker 2: some of you may not have heard about this, but

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Speaker 2: yesterday the Washington Post basically cut in one day about

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Speaker 2: thirty percent of their staff, which is an extraordinary number,

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Speaker 2: an absolutely extraordinary number. They have devastated their this sports coverage.

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Speaker 2: I know that many in this audience have strong feelings

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Speaker 2: about the media, and I know that some of you

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Speaker 2: feel the media is not fair or that it favors

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Speaker 2: one side. That's not the point of this hour. If

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Speaker 2: you want to make that point, you could make the point.

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Speaker 2: That's fine. The Washington Post is a major, venerable American newspaper,

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Speaker 2: similar to the New York Times and the Los Angeles Times,

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Speaker 2: and the Chicago Tribune, Minneapolis Star Tribune, Boston Globe, the

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Speaker 2: Miami Herald. I mean, there are, you know, there are just,

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Speaker 2: you know, newspapers in this country that are important. And

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Speaker 2: newspapers in this country have been important since the days

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Speaker 2: of Patrick Henry and the Revolutionary War, whether or not

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Speaker 2: they were sheets of paper that people turned around and

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Speaker 2: eventually pamphlets and newspapers. Look, I'm not a huge fan

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Speaker 2: of the Boston Glob's editorial policy. I think that they're

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Speaker 2: wrong on most issues. Occasionally they're right, but they have

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Speaker 2: a great sports page. I feel that I do get

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Speaker 2: from the Globe a very good sense of what is

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Speaker 2: going on in the city. I think, again it's political

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Speaker 2: coverage is way biased, and I've said that, but when

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Speaker 2: I think about what happened to the Washington Post yesterday, again,

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Speaker 2: Jeff Bezos is now the owner, and I think he's

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Speaker 2: running it as he would any business, and that business

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Speaker 2: is essentially bottom line, and I'm afraid that when bottom

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Speaker 2: line businesses are run in that way, that that that

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Speaker 2: that we're the poorer fort So this was a piece

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Speaker 2: of sound that I found today. It was posted by

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Speaker 2: a Washington Post reporter, and I've check this out. His

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Speaker 2: name is Sam forty eight Sport. He's a sports reporter,

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Speaker 2: young guy. As best as I can figure, he's probably

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Speaker 2: somewhere in this late twenties, early thirties. And he posted

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Speaker 2: this some SoundBite which I'm going to ask Rob to

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Speaker 2: play for us. It's cut twenty two Rob, but hold

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Speaker 2: on for a second until I call for it. And

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Speaker 2: he basically again as I understand that, yesterday a high number,

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Speaker 2: a large number of Washington Post reporters were told stay

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Speaker 2: thirty in the morning or somewhere sometime like that, and

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Speaker 2: that's how they were told that they had been eliminated.

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Speaker 2: I mean they eliminated some. I think the number is

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Speaker 2: thirty percent of all its employees, thirty percent of all

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Speaker 2: of its employees, and included people on the business side

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Speaker 2: as well, because the newspaper needs people on business side.

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Speaker 2: But in addition, they they got rid of in one

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Speaker 2: The cuts were assigned that Jeff Bezos, who became one

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Speaker 2: has not yet figured out how to build and maintain

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Speaker 2: the first eight years of his ownership, but the company

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Speaker 2: name is Sam Fortier Friti e Er. He's from Strapp,

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Speaker 2: New Hampshire. He went to Syracuse and has worked for

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Speaker 2: Washington Redskins down the Washington Commodorees. He's sitting listening, so

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Speaker 2: if you can imagine, he's just playing a video of

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Speaker 2: find somewhere else. But let's just listen to this, because

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Speaker 2: this is a message that three hundred journalists received yesterday

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Speaker 3: First, we will be closing the sports department in its

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Speaker 3: current form. We plan to retain several reporters to join

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Speaker 3: Features and cover sports as a cultural and societal phenomenon,

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Speaker 3: as well as several folks to staff the print sports section.

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Speaker 3: This is obviously a uniquely and incredibly difficult decision. Our

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Speaker 3: and have been with just major changes in the way

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Speaker 2: I believe, and I cannot be for sure, but that

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Speaker 2: Post's executive editor, and apparently he delivered this message yesterday morning,

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Speaker 2: according to The New York Times, with newsroom employees that

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Speaker 2: the company had lost too much money for too long

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Speaker 2: had not been meeting readers' needs. He said that all

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Speaker 2: would be a publication focused even more on national news

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Speaker 2: less in other areas. So my question to all of

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that when NBC, ABC and CBS had their

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Speaker 2: to populate their weeknight newscasts, their evening newscasts, that I'm

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Speaker 2: sure that there were copies of the I would hope

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Speaker 2: they were copies of the Wall Street Journal, as well

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Speaker 2: as the New York Times, in the Washington Post and

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Speaker 2: the Boston Well, but that asset of the Washington Post

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Speaker 2: is now going to be substantially reduced. And I also

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Speaker 2: think it does not augur well for us as a nation.

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Speaker 2: And I don't say that as a talk show host

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Speaker 2: or as somebody who's worked in journalism from my entire career,

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Speaker 2: has had a career in journalism for fifty years. But

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Speaker 2: TikTok and the Instagram hits, which means which mean nothing.

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Speaker 2: Young people are not reading newspapers anymore, which is a

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Speaker 2: is horrible we have allowed our society and there's been

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Speaker 2: a part. Now you can find all the answers to that. Okay.

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Speaker 2: If you don't know the name of the capital of France,

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Speaker 2: and on and on. There are certain fundamental things that

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Speaker 2: we need as a society to no and it holds

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Speaker 2: And we have gone off to accommodate so many people

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Speaker 2: not let who have not learned to read. Well, you

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Speaker 2: haven't learned to read, you are going to become a

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Speaker 2: newspaper subscriber. If you haven't learned to read and you're

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Speaker 2: things that are important. And what do you end up doing.

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Speaker 2: You end up watching TikTok or Instagram all day long.

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Speaker 2: I am concerned in this. I know that some of you,

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Speaker 2: some of you will dance on the grave of the

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Speaker 2: Washington Post. Don't do that. Don't do that. It was

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Speaker 2: a paper who was right in its coverage of Watergate.

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Speaker 2: Were there other administrations before Nixon who did similar things? Yeah, Nixon.

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Speaker 2: Mixon's problem was he got caught, and he got caught

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Speaker 2: impressive re election campaigns. If remember in nineteen seventy two,

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Speaker 2: Senator George McGovern. Anyway, I'd love to hear an outcry

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Speaker 2: from my listeners about this. This is not a happy day. Okay,

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Speaker 2: this is not a happy day because this does not

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Speaker 2: if you agree with me, I'd love to hear fromim.

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Speaker 2: If you want to make the argument that we're just

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Speaker 2: changing as a society. I think you're right. You could

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Speaker 2: not as if the Washington Post has died, but it's

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Speaker 2: it's almost as if the Washington Post has got out

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Speaker 2: Right now. We'll be right back on Nightside.

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Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray Onbzy Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we're whatever your point. I feel that we

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Speaker 2: bit thereob I have no idea what was going on there.

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Speaker 4: Oh, Dan, thank you for taking my call out. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's said they Dan. I remember I saw an interview

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Speaker 4: and seated it and how he's scaled back because people

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Speaker 4: just weren't reading magazines anymore. Everything was online. And you

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Speaker 4: know Jeff Bezos love him or hate on whether they

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Speaker 2: They were? They were they hit switched switched from from

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Speaker 4: Right, And Jeff Bezos know, he's a very smart businessman.

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Speaker 4: He's he said, you know, he's the space race now

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Speaker 4: you know, were you thinking of the three great papers

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Speaker 4: the Posts. It's up to anybody else that they want

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Speaker 2: The Wall Street Journal in that troika. Did we just

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Speaker 2: lose Paul? Yeah, Rob, we may have a problem with

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Speaker 2: our phone lines here, by the way, because I was

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Speaker 2: hearing the same problems with both. Did you ever get

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Speaker 2: back to John on that or no? Okay? So those

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Speaker 6: And and I think your head, it's yours, but I

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, the Yankees lost a few World Series.

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Speaker 6: Shake shouldn't give me. I'm a very interesting guy. You

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Speaker 2: Well talk in baseball. I've We've done eight minutes and

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Speaker 2: I'm with you. Okay, we'll talk. Have a great weekend. Okay,

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Speaker 6: Okay, I remember the first one, the Kansas City Chiefs

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Speaker 2: Now that I'm not being sacrilegious, I want it the

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Speaker 2: Hey to my friend Jeff and Abington. Jeff Paul Honing

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Speaker 4: The last thing I heard you say it was about people.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, what I was trying to say it was this.

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Speaker 2: Well, he may feel that way, but but that doesn't

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Speaker 2: I guess passes away at some point, but you like

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Speaker 2: to think that certain institutions will always be with us.

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Speaker 2: And that institution now looks very different today than it

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Speaker 2: did a week ago.

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Speaker 4: And there's a lot less You know, when President Trump's

437
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Speaker 4: first four years, all you heard about was the Washington Post,

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Speaker 4: and then it's really you really haven't heard about it

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Speaker 4: that much. They sort of I don't know, it's just

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Speaker 4: not as I can tell you this towards him or whatever.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, I don't always well.

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Speaker 2: But by the way, based on the supposedly Bezos killed

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Speaker 2: an editorial which was going to endorse Vice President Harris

444
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Speaker 2: last November or last fall. Uh, and they did not

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Speaker 2: take an editorial position. And I guess there were a

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Speaker 2: lot of subscribers to the Post who decided to stop

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Speaker 2: their subscription because of that. So no, I mean that

448
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Speaker 2: wasn't particularly open minded of the subscribers to the Post.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they have contributed to the demise of the Washington

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Speaker 2: Post's It's not a simple story.

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Speaker 4: Right, It's like it's a sad story because you know,

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Speaker 4: after the Times, that's you could argue that's in a

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Speaker 4: big three. And like I said, you heard me. But

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Speaker 4: when it comes to the big three, whoever you want

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Speaker 4: to put number three, that's pretty much personal preperence. That's

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Speaker 4: pretty much the Times in the post. But let me

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Speaker 4: just say, Dan, because you said here taking super Bowl

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Speaker 4: preachers tomorrow, let me just briefly say, you know, with

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Speaker 4: my head, I for thirty one. I don't know, you gotta.

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Speaker 2: Call in tomorrow. If you want to compete for a

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Speaker 2: night side mugg, you gotta call in tomorrow night. Paul.

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Speaker 4: Let me just say one thirteen see or thirty one

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Speaker 4: that you want.

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Speaker 2: To say anything you want, but I can. I only

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Speaker 2: write him down. And the only ones to qualify the

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Speaker 2: ones that get in tomorrow night.

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Speaker 4: I'm just I'm just putting it out there. I don't

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Speaker 4: I don't as far as competing or anything. I'm just saying,

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Speaker 4: thirty one.

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Speaker 2: Who you picking? Pat? I hope you pick in Seattle?

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Speaker 4: Oh oh yeah, I don't you know. I'm you know,

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Speaker 4: I don't want to lie to you.

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Speaker 2: Call me back next week if you're right and take

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Speaker 2: a victory. Laugh and if you don't, if you're not right,

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Speaker 2: call me back.

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Speaker 4: And you know one thing for sure, Mike rabel Shul's

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Speaker 4: on a fire up the troops, so I could be run.

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Speaker 2: No. No, he's a great coach of the year. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you just picked up, got you later, good night. Let

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Speaker 2: me keep rolling here. Uh, I'm not going to short

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Speaker 2: change anybody. So I got Dot, Nathan and Patrick. You

482
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Speaker 2: guys stay there. I guarantee you get some time on

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Speaker 2: the other side of this break. If I put someone

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Speaker 2: on and have to cut him quickly, I'm I'm going

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Speaker 2: to do that. We'll go to the break just a

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Speaker 2: little early. Coming back on night Side.

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Speaker 1: It's night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's keep rolling here. We're going to go

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Speaker 2: next to Patrick and DC. Patrick next to a Knightside.

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Speaker 5: Go right ahead, all right, back from Washington, d C.

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Speaker 5: Here I am again. You know, this is what we

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Speaker 5: don't want to see is these letters an inch and

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Speaker 5: a half across the top of the newspaper that says

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Speaker 5: final edition, right what happened to the Washington Stares with

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Speaker 5: an editorial from Ronald Reagan. Yes, now, for some reason,

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Speaker 5: this man, mister Bezos that's very nice. He's not a

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Speaker 5: newspaper man. He's not a hands long man. He's not

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Speaker 5: a Scott Brown. You know. He's not the person to

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Speaker 5: go out there and shake hands. He's not the people

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Speaker 5: that built a newspaper, who didn't want anyone to be

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Speaker 5: without the newspaper. They would do whatever they could get

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Speaker 5: that newspaper in your hands. They had him on the streets,

503
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Speaker 5: they had him in the stores, they had him in

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Speaker 5: your schools, coming to talk to you about the wonderful

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Speaker 5: world of newspapers and what a bargain they are. And

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Speaker 5: they're rather expensive right now too.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy for the single you know, newstand Yeah, they've

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Speaker 2: given up on that. Advertising is going down. The Globe

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Speaker 2: is much thinner than it ever was. I mean, it

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Speaker 2: used to be a thick newspaper most days, and on

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Speaker 2: a Thursday or Friday it was very thick. That is

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Speaker 2: not the situation for the Globe anymore.

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Speaker 5: Sadly, The Washington Post defines our nation's capital as our

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Speaker 5: nation's capital. It also defines the region and the people

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Speaker 5: in the area. And for him, he just doesn't have it.

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Speaker 5: And I would say to mister Bezos, give it up.

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Speaker 5: Wells what they could do.

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Speaker 2: Give it up, Yeah, because I think I think that

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Speaker 2: this is a step in the wrong direction. And it's

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Speaker 2: not I'm not going to save the paper. I think

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Speaker 2: it's going to accelerate the decline in the paper and

522
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Speaker 2: ultimately it will go the way of everything sadly.

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Speaker 5: Okay, that's what I am.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Patrick, appreciate it very much. Thank you all right,

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Speaker 2: have a great night. Talk to you soon. We just

526
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Speaker 2: lost that call that dropped off on nine three one.

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Speaker 2: We got problems with that phone, I believe me. We

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Speaker 2: got problems. Dot in Medford. Hey, Dot, how are you tonight? Hi?

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Speaker 7: Dan boy? You are so right about the newspaper. You know,

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Speaker 7: eighty years ago when I was in the fifth grade,

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Speaker 7: we got up in front of the class and had

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Speaker 7: to give a current event. We had to read the

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Speaker 7: newspaper in the fifth grade, and we had to do

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Speaker 7: a book report once a week. We I mean, we

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Speaker 7: had such good schooling. I'm telling you, really, but it's

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Speaker 7: a sad day. And the young people and I'm not

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Speaker 7: even saying young people, I'm saying middle people in their

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Speaker 7: forties and fifties. They don't know what's going on. They're

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Speaker 7: on their stupid cell phone. All the time. It's just

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Speaker 7: so boring.

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Speaker 2: Or TikTok or whatever.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, it's it's very boring.

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Speaker 7: They don't know and what happened and you tell them

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Speaker 7: some big story that's been in the paper.

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Speaker 4: When did you?

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's pathetic. They are dumbing down this country

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Speaker 7: big time.

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Speaker 2: Well, they are being shortchanged by by education in this country.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's that the teachers. I

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Speaker 2: think the teachers care, but I don't.

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Speaker 7: Know if the administ they're lazy and all they think

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Speaker 7: about is their paycheck. Believe me, they're always fighting for

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Speaker 7: more money. They're they're not. There were no teachers today

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Speaker 7: like we used to have. I'll tell you really, I

555
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Speaker 7: mean we had a great curriculum and this is public school.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree with you on that, but I

557
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Speaker 2: do think that there are still teachers who are in

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Speaker 2: the business for the right reasons hopefully. Oh yeah, but

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Speaker 2: kids are getting short, they're getting shortange, they're getting socially promoted.

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Speaker 2: It's like get them in, get them out, move them,

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Speaker 2: move them on. They're treated like cattle. The story today

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Speaker 2: that I think they're saying, what was it like a

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Speaker 2: thirty percent of high school seniors they have watered down

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Speaker 2: the MCST requirements and now they have something else. And

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Speaker 2: this is our future, this is our workforce. These are

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Speaker 2: the people who are following us, and they're not going

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Speaker 2: to be ready, never mind not be ready for oh no.

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Speaker 7: Way, no way. But also, you come into a room,

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Speaker 7: you see half the room on their cell phone. They're

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Speaker 7: not talking to each other. They don't know how to talk.

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Speaker 7: A lot of people will not talk on the phone.

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Speaker 7: They just want a text.

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Speaker 2: Oh let me tell you. I both myself and our

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Speaker 2: producer Marita had that problem all the time. Uh and

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Speaker 2: and I'm having the problem right now and I'll get

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Speaker 2: into it probably later on this month. But I think

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Speaker 2: that there are and there are a lot of politicians

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Speaker 2: now who don't want to come on and talk to

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Speaker 2: the public. They've been told by the consultants, we'll just

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Speaker 2: send your stuff out on social media. Who stand in

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Speaker 2: front of a camera and look like you're a congressman

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Speaker 2: or a senator and say what you want. That's why

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Speaker 2: I like Scott Brown, and we had our last hour.

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Speaker 2: He had no idea what questions were coming at him. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I hope that John Sounu will former Senator SNUNU

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Speaker 2: will do the same thing we're trying to. We're trying

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Speaker 2: to set up, just so you know, a not a debate,

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Speaker 2: but a conversation, uh, with the three candidates who are

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Speaker 2: running for governor on the Republican side here in Massachusetts.

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Speaker 2: Mike and Brian short slaves Oh yees, yeah, Mike Minogue,

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Speaker 2: short Sleeve and Kennelly are all set. It's tough to

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Speaker 2: get to even who the press representative of Mike Minogue is.

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Speaker 2: So does anyone out there who's a friend.

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Speaker 7: Oh, I've heard a lot about him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you see the TV AD's okay, And I

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Speaker 2: don't know that he's been on radio programs and talking

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Speaker 2: to constituents.

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Speaker 7: Well, I hope you get him on.

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Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you, we will either get him

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Speaker 2: on or we'll do it without him. And uh. And

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Speaker 2: that will that will label him as nothing more than

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Speaker 2: a TV candidate, And that's a good thing. That's not

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Speaker 2: a good thing. They all need TV advertising to get

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Speaker 2: their messages out, but they also have to interact with

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Speaker 2: the public. They got to know.

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Speaker 7: I have to read the Globe and I read the

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Speaker 7: Wall Street Journal. That's and you get a good variety

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Speaker 7: that way, because you can't just live by what's the

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Speaker 7: Globe says. You have to read the Wall Street too.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, God, thank you so much. I'm gonna scoot here

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Speaker 2: because we're going to get before. Thank you much. Let

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Speaker 2: me go to Nathan in Malden. Nathan, you were next

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Speaker 2: on nights. I get you in under the.

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Speaker 8: Wire, sir, Thank you, sir, Thank you, sir. I got

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Speaker 8: a weigh in on this. It's a question of is

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Speaker 8: it the symptom or is it the disease. We have

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Speaker 8: seen the newspaper industry strength dramatically across the country over

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Speaker 8: the past two decades.

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Speaker 2: No question.

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Speaker 8: You mentioned it when you were talking about the Globe.

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Speaker 8: The journals, smaller, the Times gobbled this one out. The

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Speaker 8: hardthanks papers bought everything up and then through there and

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Speaker 8: literally threw them out the door. And I had a privilege.

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Speaker 8: I was raised a voracious reader. I had teachers that

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Speaker 8: taught me to read the left leaning papers, the right

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Speaker 8: leaning papers to centrist. I worked at the Globe. I

627
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Speaker 8: worked at the Herald back in the day in the

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Speaker 8: from the sales office. I understand the marketing and and

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Speaker 8: the but but the washing. But the Post. The Post

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Speaker 8: was one of those papers that was making the transition

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Speaker 8: from being a piece of paper to being in every media.

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Speaker 8: The post was in my Apple news feed. The post

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Speaker 8: was available to me at every level. And if the

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Speaker 8: Post is being gutted, and we've seen the Globe gutted,

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Speaker 8: and we've seen the paper that what was it the

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Speaker 8: Chicago one of the two of the Chicago papers closed.

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Speaker 8: We we were And the reason I think that these

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Speaker 8: papers are shutting down or or or or or or

639
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Speaker 8: gutting their workforce or going to bare minimum, it's not

640
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Speaker 8: about AI. It's not about read it. It's about readership.

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Speaker 8: It's about children.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well that's why I'm saying that. For years now,

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Speaker 2: for years now, kids have been pushed through the system, graduate,

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Speaker 2: socially promoted. They give them the basics.

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Speaker 9: Worse than that, it's worse than that. Today's generation is

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Speaker 9: mob rule. It's whatever the majority is thinking. It's the

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Speaker 9: loudest person screaming is what they're paying attention to. I

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Speaker 9: got nieces and nephews that run from brand new in

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Speaker 9: this world to nineteen twenty. I've got kids who I hired,

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Speaker 9: generations of young people.

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Speaker 8: I'm fifty eight years old, and anyone hold on, let

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Speaker 8: me get rid of that, and.

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Speaker 10: Anyone from say twelve to maybe thirty at this point

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Speaker 10: has been getting their news off in thirty.

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Speaker 8: Second and three second bites. They've been just that, you know,

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Speaker 8: they've They've made it from actual reading.

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Speaker 2: I'm up against the clock here. Have you called before

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Speaker 2: or is this your okay? Continue to call?

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Speaker 8: Any talking to you.

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Speaker 2: I want you to become a more frequent call, more

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Speaker 2: frequently please, I need your voice, okay on this program

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Speaker 2: to educate people. Thanks, Nathan, I mean that honestly, Thank

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Speaker 2: you much. We'll be back right after the eleven o'clock news.

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Speaker 2: Here for the final hour of a Thursday night edition

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Speaker 2: of Nightside