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Speaker 3: It's time for quick hits, something MS quick hits. Come
Speaker 3: make it quick, y'all. The Chargers are ten and four,
Speaker 3: surprising ten and four with all the injuries to their
Speaker 3: offensive line. There in Dallas on Sunday to face Shody
Speaker 3: in the Cowboy Shody Shoda, Shody shot with Shatzi. What
Speaker 3: I ten am kick on.
Speaker 2: A Shody sixty Shody? You know Shoty. I was talking
Speaker 2: to Shody. You know Shot he's down there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's coaching.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good call. We had to dial it
Speaker 2: up there, Shody.
Speaker 3: The Rams. David Vassay is in the rambling out. I'm
Speaker 3: in the Rambley now. Eleven and three. They might be
Speaker 3: the best team in the NFL. And they travel to
Speaker 3: Seattle on Thursday night to face the Seahawks. Vassay is
Speaker 3: happy that he doesn't have Dodger talk that night, and
Speaker 3: now he can watch that game and drink his beer
Speaker 3: at the Old Yankee Doodles and be in the rambling
Speaker 3: or go.
Speaker 2: Across the street to the TGI Fridays. He's too old top.
Speaker 2: He's got unbelievable options done at all. The winner takes
Speaker 2: over soul possession in the first place of the NFC West.
Speaker 2: DeVante Adams is a game time decision with a bad hamstring,
Speaker 2: and Cooper Cup says, if you guys, I'm coming for you.
Speaker 2: Probably not. The Lakers are eighteen and seven. They're off
Speaker 2: until Thursday when they play the Jazz. I think the
Speaker 2: Lakers can win Hot.
Speaker 3: Jazz in Salt Lake City.
Speaker 2: I think the Lakers can win.
Speaker 3: There's no indication that they are.
Speaker 2: I think the Lakers can win it.
Speaker 3: Not in the running to win it. I think the
Speaker 3: Lakers can win. I'm not by the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Probably not, Steve, did you enunciate those words a little
Speaker 2: bit more?
Speaker 5: I think the Lakers can win it.
Speaker 3: That's a great he did a great job. You sure
Speaker 3: did the Clippers are six and twenty. Stand in suit
Speaker 3: the Clippers have lost. I think the Lakers win. Clippers
Speaker 3: have lost twenty game. They suck like they suck.
Speaker 2: Donkey des six and twenty.
Speaker 3: Kawhi and Harden didn't face the media last night after
Speaker 3: their loss Losers five o'clock tip on Thursday, Losers, we're
Speaker 3: on from two to four and West Cole.
Speaker 2: And they moved their freaking game on us and didn't
Speaker 2: tell us.
Speaker 3: We can't move it. They give us a lot of money.
Speaker 3: Cannot play with them. They cannot win with them, cannot
Speaker 3: coach with him, can't do it. We can't. We can't
Speaker 3: win with them.
Speaker 6: It's been fifty days since they last won a home game. Fourty.
Speaker 6: The World Series was still going on the last time
Speaker 6: the Clippers won a home game and into it, Tim
Speaker 6: just said the number fifty, not fifty. Team five zero.
Speaker 6: Nearly two months since they've won a game. At the
Speaker 6: end to It Dome.
Speaker 3: More off the court news, the NBA Cup might be
Speaker 3: leaving Las Vegas like Sheryl Crow. The league is openly
Speaker 3: considering the possibility of moving the championship game of its
Speaker 3: n season tournament away and then moving them back to
Speaker 3: the home arenas of the teams playing on the semis
Speaker 3: and the final Why why poor attendance in a sterile
Speaker 3: environment and Ali Arena.
Speaker 2: Nobody cares about your stupid Nobody cares about your stupid
Speaker 2: in season tournament except Mayor Bass.
Speaker 3: Tell me about it. I think the Lakers can win it.
Speaker 2: You didn't want to talk about the All Star Game.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: I had into it Dome.
Speaker 3: You didn't want to. I don't want to talk about
Speaker 3: Nobody to it Dome, nobody.
Speaker 2: Clippers are six and twenty and the NBA All Star
Speaker 2: Game is going to be at the Clippers Arena and
Speaker 2: they will not have a single All Star on the
Speaker 2: freaking team.
Speaker 3: A lot of people died at the Alamo this year.
Speaker 3: US he's getting ready to play in the Alamo Bowl
Speaker 3: versus TCU fight, Don't fight All Fight All Trojans are
Speaker 3: a six point fave. Lincoln Riley announced that safety Kamari Ramsey,
Speaker 3: receivers Makayle Lemon and Jacobe Lane, and tight end Lake McCree,
Speaker 3: and linebacker Eric Gentry will not play for the Alamo Bowl.
Speaker 3: What I don't fight, an't fight all? Lane de Crown
Speaker 3: declared for the draft, and he said look, John Wayne
Speaker 3: didn't even make it through the Alamo. I can't play this.
Speaker 3: Too much of a too much of a risk. McCree.
Speaker 2: He's out, he say's not gonna play stupid Alamo Bowl.
Speaker 3: Starting quarterback for USC, Jaden Mayava is returning for the
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six season. What's good news. We all assume this,
Speaker 3: but now they have to make an official announcement that
Speaker 3: he's re signed with the program for the twenty twenty
Speaker 3: six season. His return now turns the attention to five
Speaker 3: star backup Hassan Long Street.
Speaker 2: That street is so long you can't see the end
Speaker 2: of it. It's like, man, this thing goes forever.
Speaker 3: It really is. I mean you really, I mean it's
Speaker 3: like Western and it's long blocks. You know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like you know what I mean, no brain, no red
Speaker 3: line anymore, nothing. It's hard to get down that long asstreet.
Speaker 2: Long Street.
Speaker 3: Hussan, It's unclear if Long Street will be able to
Speaker 3: wait for the bus.
Speaker 2: I have an answer to that.
Speaker 3: He won't. Will look at ty Simpson and Alabama waiting
Speaker 3: on his turn and look at him. Now, wouldn't you
Speaker 3: wait your turn to let him?
Speaker 2: Makes he cut out? Now he's out. There throwing it
Speaker 2: around at Ohio State. Someone likes long streets. Some people don't.
Speaker 2: They like short cul de sacs. You know, you get
Speaker 2: in and you get out.
Speaker 3: There's an example for everybody that left that there's an
Speaker 3: example for everybody that stayed. Don't you try to come
Speaker 3: back at me with the Julian saying at Julian saying
Speaker 3: he was sitting in New York. Nobody wanted to talk
Speaker 3: to him, but he was still there. He came off
Speaker 3: better than Pavia. His first comment scene being named since
Speaker 3: being named Michigan's interim football coach, Biff Poggy so Monday
Speaker 3: that his players feel betrayed, that his players feel betrayed
Speaker 3: and angry following the firing and arrest the former coach
Speaker 3: Jeron More. Imagine how Sharone feels.
Speaker 4: I met individually with all the players multiple times, and
Speaker 4: and with the parents assumed with the parents multiple times,
Speaker 4: and the message has been listening, right. I want to
Speaker 4: listen to them. I want to I want to understand
Speaker 4: what the kids are feeling and what their parents are feeling.
Speaker 4: And so a lot of us think, and there's been
Speaker 4: a wide range of emotions. As you can imagine, We've
Speaker 4: kind of are going through those steps. They're not over yet,
Speaker 4: and I don't expect them to be over for a while.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Biff. But our main situation is the main
Speaker 3: messager mandate.
Speaker 4: The word Manuel gave me is the athletic.
Speaker 3: Proctor that I thought they fired that guy too, and take.
Speaker 4: Care of the kids. And so that's what I'm spending
Speaker 4: all of my time doing, as.
Speaker 3: Loving kids and breastfeeding them. Nick Saban is now involved
Speaker 3: in hockey. Yeah, that's what I've always wanted.
Speaker 2: He is purchased a minority stake.
Speaker 3: Pretty nice feathered hair like me, I can get involved
Speaker 3: in this feathered hair business.
Speaker 2: Bill Haslem announced yesterday, and by yesterday I mean today
Speaker 2: that Dream Sports Ventures LLC and entity controlled by Saban.
Speaker 3: I just found out they moved the Clipper game this morning.
Speaker 2: Shoe AGGRESSEDEE would now be part of the ownership group.
Speaker 2: Quote although and this is from save, I'm gonna do
Speaker 2: my best saving here, I'm not good. I knew you
Speaker 2: was not good, but I'm gonna do it anyway. Although
Speaker 2: I am now retired as a coach, I still possess
Speaker 2: a competitive nature and a great passion for sports and
Speaker 2: being involved in a sports team in Nashville has always
Speaker 2: been a goal, and the opportunity to partner in the
Speaker 2: Predators with a class act like Bill Haslam create a
Speaker 2: perfect scenario for us. The Preds are a great organization
Speaker 2: with a fantastic brand, and we are excited to be
Speaker 2: part of the future success of the franchise.
Speaker 3: Thank you, coach.
Speaker 2: See miss Terry on your way out please.
Speaker 3: I am surprised at your insistence on staying in the
Speaker 3: public eye after your coaching career. I did not think
Speaker 3: you would do this.
Speaker 2: It's a way for me to stay competitively involved.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll help scratch that competitive itch, the one that
Speaker 2: Miss Terry can't read.
Speaker 3: That you've had since Kent State. I get it. Miss
Speaker 3: Terry's got fingers though she does That's actually plays a
Speaker 3: piano on a day every eight day I sit with her.
Speaker 5: She tickles, Oh, come on, coach, tickles your tape, Miss Terry,
Speaker 5: Terry tickles your tape.
Speaker 3: This is why no one takes us seriously. This is why, Yes,
Speaker 3: that's why. This is why.
Speaker 7: It's Terry tickles t that right there. I bought a
Speaker 7: steak of the Pratts. Now he's never coming on. What
Speaker 7: happened I thought we were getting saving on. Now I
Speaker 7: heard about the mystery joke. Now I won't come on.
Speaker 3: It's over. You said that my wife tickles my tape,
Speaker 3: her long fingers and her ability to play the piano
Speaker 3: on a day. Is that what you said.
Speaker 2: That's right, coach, that's what we said. I'm sorry, we
Speaker 2: can't help ourselves. We'll be back with Tom to LESCo
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Speaker 3: A lot of blame being tossed around there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tim.
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Speaker 3: our old friend Tom Telesco, longtime NFL like Zach Colts,
Speaker 3: Chargers Raiders. You hear him on Serious XM, the NFL radio,
Speaker 3: doing great, working in the media at great, acting like
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Speaker 3: It is Tom to LESCo. A lot of ape and
Speaker 3: monkey bo. Tom, How are you great to talk to you?
Speaker 3: How's it going.
Speaker 8: Going great? Happy holidays to you guys, And it's good
Speaker 8: to catch up a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we love talking Tommy t. We haven't talked since
Speaker 3: the high school playoffs. So let's start with the Raiders
Speaker 3: because it's like they're astronomically bad and that that's kind
Speaker 3: of hard, and that that's hard for an NFL team
Speaker 3: to be that bad. What what has happened to them?
Speaker 8: Look, there's been so much turnover. Obviously I was part
Speaker 8: of it, but there's just been so much turnover the
Speaker 8: last four or five years and I guess going back
Speaker 8: even farther than that, it's just it's hard to get
Speaker 8: anything started with continuity and and the schemes you're gonna
Speaker 8: run and the players are they're gonna fit it. So
Speaker 8: you know, as as regimes come on and the regimes
Speaker 8: move on, you know, players that were drafted may not
Speaker 8: fit anymore, players that were signed may not fit so
Speaker 8: eventually that they need to get to a spot where
Speaker 8: they kind of hone in, Hey, this is the GM,
Speaker 8: this is the head coach, and this is the plan
Speaker 8: moving forward. You know, I knew when I was there,
Speaker 8: like there's just the talent level needs to increase exponentially,
Speaker 8: and it's a very tough division and it's going to
Speaker 8: take time. It's not going to be a one year rebuild.
Speaker 8: It's going to take a lot of time. They have
Speaker 8: great resources there, They had a great culture there when
Speaker 8: I was there, and you know, believe me, ownership is
Speaker 8: pretty good. I had a great relationship with Mark Davis,
Speaker 8: So they do have some things in place, but just
Speaker 8: from from a from a talent standpoint, player wise, right now,
Speaker 8: they just can't line up with the rest of the division.
Speaker 8: So it's going to take some time.
Speaker 2: Tom if you end up with the number one or
Speaker 2: number two overall pick, unless you have a franchise quarterback,
Speaker 2: undisputed franchise quarterback that comes into the conversation, don't no.
Speaker 2: I know you haven't done like all your evaluations yet
Speaker 2: and stuff, but I'm assuming you've seen enough of Bernanda
Speaker 2: Mendoza to kind of get an idea is to whether
Speaker 2: or not that's that's a guy that you can envision
Speaker 2: getting selected number one overall. Can you see him being
Speaker 2: like a franchise guy?
Speaker 6: I can you know this?
Speaker 8: It's probably senior. It's a very thin draft right now
Speaker 8: at the quarterback position. And but we'll see if Dante
Speaker 8: Moore ends up declaring or not. And with this world
Speaker 8: of nil and you're seeing a lot of players go
Speaker 8: back to school because now they're being paid enough to
Speaker 8: do that, which is not the worst thing in the
Speaker 8: world because they go back and keep developing. But this
Speaker 8: quarterback draft class could be small, and there are so
Speaker 8: many teams right now that need quarterbacks and it's a
Speaker 8: supply and demand league. So Bernanda Mendoza is going to
Speaker 8: be one of the top guys. And if you're picking
Speaker 8: high in the draft and you don't have a franchise quarterback,
Speaker 8: you're probably looking his way. He's got he's a great leader,
Speaker 8: he's got good arm strength, he's got a little bit
Speaker 8: of Mocks to him. I think he's got a little
Speaker 8: bit of Matt Ryan in him as far as how
Speaker 8: he handles late game situations. He's a good, good enough athlete.
Speaker 8: I hope he's gonna get a lot of yards with
Speaker 8: his feet outside the pocket. But he's certainly going to
Speaker 8: be a player that we're gonna be looking at high
Speaker 8: as well as Dante Moore if he declares. He's got
Speaker 8: a lot of skills. But Dante Moore hasn't played a
Speaker 8: lot of football in college yet, so he still has
Speaker 8: a lot of development there. But there's a lot of
Speaker 8: teams that are going to be up on top of
Speaker 8: that draft that knee quarterbacks, and in gregiously, you're not
Speaker 8: going to find them more than likely, possibly a Kyler
Speaker 8: Murray comes out, but other than that, there's not going
Speaker 8: to be a lot there. So you're gonna have to
Speaker 8: look at the draft, which raft is a bit light.
Speaker 2: Right now, Let's go from the Dante Moors who haven't
Speaker 2: played a lot of football to someone you know intimately
Speaker 2: who has played a lot of football, just not in
Speaker 2: the last five years. I'm sure you watched Philip Rivers.
Speaker 2: I'm guessing you did unless you were tied up there,
Speaker 2: But no, no, I thought as so, you know Shane
Speaker 2: Steichen very well, you kind of know what probably went
Speaker 2: into that decision. What did you make of it when
Speaker 2: you first heard and then and what did you end
Speaker 2: up see?
Speaker 8: Well, look, I was even though I know both guys
Speaker 8: very well and the ship know him better, I was
Speaker 8: still surprised and shots just because not so much about
Speaker 8: Phillips stage, but obviously being out of football for five
Speaker 8: years and just not in that daily grind of being
Speaker 8: a professional football player and how hard it would be to,
Speaker 8: you know, to come back and play in NFL football.
Speaker 8: So I'm really amazed that he could come in essentially
Speaker 8: on three practices and a walkthrough to go out there
Speaker 8: and execute an NFL game plan. And Shane did what
Speaker 8: he could do with the game plan. It was as
Speaker 8: you saw, it was a heavy run game and the
Speaker 8: passing game was very short. Get the ball out of
Speaker 8: his hand, get the balls the receivers, tight ends, running
Speaker 8: backs early, and let run after catch takeover. And he
Speaker 8: executed it and gave him a chance to win, believe
Speaker 8: it or not, you know, because the defense did so
Speaker 8: well for the Coles Holdings. He had a lot of
Speaker 8: the end zone, so I thought it was impressive. Now
Speaker 8: moving forward, you know, there was a lot of shotgun
Speaker 8: runs and the average yards for attempt was was below.
Speaker 8: So it's hard to win in the NFL that way.
Speaker 8: And I know they signed them to win. It didn't
Speaker 8: time just to play. So we'll see this week can
Speaker 8: they open it up more, which they're going to have to.
Speaker 8: And you know, the question is can they with Philip's
Speaker 8: mobility and whereas arm is right now, but the mind
Speaker 8: is there that the question is would you lose your
Speaker 8: quick twist decision making just a couple of milliseconds and
Speaker 8: that could affect things. And honestly, that was there, which
Speaker 8: is just incredibly amazing to see for a player. But
Speaker 8: we'll see this week how we can rebound. If you
Speaker 8: can get the ball down the field a little bit more,
Speaker 8: give a better chance to win. But I thought the
Speaker 8: whole thing, the whole story is just amazing. It's a
Speaker 8: great story that the NFL is undefeated when it comes
Speaker 8: to storylines. And there's another one Monday, night when they
Speaker 8: play well.
Speaker 2: How about a team you are very familiar with, Tom,
Speaker 2: because between you and Joe Ortiz, you built a hell
Speaker 2: of a defense that the Chargers have humming since that
Speaker 2: buy between Derwin and Dayon and Tuley you traded for
Speaker 2: Khalil Mack and you see cam Hart and Tari've still
Speaker 2: drafted last year by Joe out there or a corner
Speaker 2: really feels like this. This is a team that has
Speaker 2: got superior play at all three levels.
Speaker 3: Is that enough?
Speaker 2: Considering the challenges that they've had, specifically on the offensive line.
Speaker 2: Can a defense that looks this dominant be enough when
Speaker 2: it comes to the postseason?
Speaker 8: Yes, if they played the way they did last week
Speaker 8: in the last couple of weeks, this is the defense
Speaker 8: that we saw more of last year and and really
Speaker 8: saw that this past Sunday with just the physicality, the
Speaker 8: speed of it, and then having multiple rushers. You know,
Speaker 8: Ado Faint always is that third rusher that's playing really
Speaker 8: well too, so he had him with Khulil Mack. Tuley's
Speaker 8: playing outstanding. So you got three guys that can rush
Speaker 8: the passer. Derwin James during Derwin James type things all
Speaker 8: day on Sunday and their secondary is really underrated. The
Speaker 8: secondary is very good and very well coached if they
Speaker 8: play the ball really well. So yeah, this is a
Speaker 8: defense you can rely on. And with the Chiefs, I
Speaker 8: just thought they out physical the Chiefs and the Chiefs
Speaker 8: way they're constructed. They have a lot of speed at receiver,
Speaker 8: but they're small. They've got three of their top floor
Speaker 8: receivers there one hundred and seventy five pounds or less.
Speaker 8: And they really didn't get down the field on the Chargers.
Speaker 8: They kept them you know, short to medium and uh,
Speaker 8: you know they kind of beat the beat those guys
Speaker 8: up in between the numbers. So yeah, I love last
Speaker 8: team from the defense, and the offense is still coming along.
Speaker 8: I mean they've I mean you've got Justin who can
Speaker 8: make big time plays and now having Hampton. I love
Speaker 8: Amaryon Hampton. I thought he's a now standing runner. He's
Speaker 8: he's a threat, and he's a hammer. He can really
Speaker 8: wear people down.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I love where they are right now.
Speaker 8: That was a big win last week, and you know
Speaker 8: they're going to be in this moving forward.
Speaker 3: Are you surprised that the Chiefs are out this year?
Speaker 3: And do you think they'll bounce back?
Speaker 8: I mean, I think they're gonna have to rebuild it
Speaker 8: a little bit certain, especially on offense at both tackle spots,
Speaker 8: and that's really been an issue for them for a
Speaker 8: number of years, but they've been able to get over it.
Speaker 8: But it's just been magnified this year. I mean, Patrick
Speaker 8: Mahomes has been hit almost as much as Justin Herbert
Speaker 8: has and every everybody wants to focus on the Chargers
Speaker 8: offensive line, but the Chiefs off liensive line has not
Speaker 8: played that well either. And you know, I just talked
Speaker 8: about wide receiver. They just mee a little bit more size,
Speaker 8: a little bit more than the guys that can win
Speaker 8: outside against bigger TV's bigger corners, and really they haven't
Speaker 8: had a running back at the Schubawt Charles.
Speaker 3: So I think there's a lot of.
Speaker 8: Things on offense. We're gonna have to be old. I
Speaker 8: like them. I'm that's healthy. They have a lot of
Speaker 8: good players on the defense, and once Mahomes is back
Speaker 8: and healthy, they're always going to be in it because
Speaker 8: of him, but they're going to have to have some
Speaker 8: sort of backup plan going in the next year. There's
Speaker 8: going to be another team that may need a quarterback
Speaker 8: just because you don't know when Mahomes will be ready
Speaker 8: going into the year. But look, they still have Andy
Speaker 8: Reid and Brett Beach is an excellent GM, so they'll
Speaker 8: just retool it a little different way. But starting next
Speaker 8: year on twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Six, Tom, the Raiders and Giants are going to play.
Speaker 2: I think it's in week seventeen, not week eighteen, And
Speaker 2: a lot of fans look at that and they see
Speaker 2: to two win teams, two teams that have a chance
Speaker 2: to have the number one overall pick or maybe slide
Speaker 2: down a little bit.
Speaker 3: If they win.
Speaker 2: What what happens, you know inside a front office is
Speaker 2: you're trying to figure out how you're going to move
Speaker 2: forward when you have to re build things and got
Speaker 2: so many issues. How does that work? I know it's
Speaker 2: it's a dumb question because obviously you want to win games.
Speaker 2: But when it's Week seventeen and you're two and fourteen
Speaker 2: or two and thirteen, like, what's going on inside that building?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 8: I went through a similar last year with the Raiders,
Speaker 8: and like you say, yeah, the fans actually is a
Speaker 8: big contention. They just want us to lose out in
Speaker 8: December for a better draft pick. But look, if you're
Speaker 8: going to build the right culture, you just can't build
Speaker 8: it that way. So we were trying to win all
Speaker 8: the way out, and I told the coaches to the
Speaker 8: players where it was, as many games as we can
Speaker 8: and we'll figure out the draft later and we're not
Speaker 8: going to do it the other way around. So that's
Speaker 8: just the culture you have to have. It's hard to
Speaker 8: do it any other way. And there's no way you
Speaker 8: could You could tell a player that you know, we're
Speaker 8: going to we're gonna sit some people down in this game.
Speaker 8: Doesn't mean anything, because it does. It does mean to
Speaker 8: a lot of people and a lot of coaches. So
Speaker 8: you just figure it out later on that that's part
Speaker 8: of your job. So I just would never let that seat.
Speaker 8: Then I understand that's the fan way of looking at it.
Speaker 8: And you know, frankly, if you're going to be that high,
Speaker 8: you may not be that high that oftense. You want
Speaker 8: to get a chance that you know, in this case,
Speaker 8: you know the Giants will need a quarterback, but the
Speaker 8: Raiders will certainly being that market and at the light
Speaker 8: quarterback draft. But look at if you're running a franchise,
Speaker 8: running a team, you want to build the right culture.
Speaker 8: You're going to wear every game you can and then
Speaker 8: the GM can figure it out later.
Speaker 2: Great stuff from Tom to LESCo. He's become a real
Speaker 2: media pro man.
Speaker 3: Yeah you're really, I mean a.
Speaker 2: Real media pro.
Speaker 3: I don't even recognize him anymore. He's out there with
Speaker 3: Rapaport and Chefter. Those guys got nothing on Telesco. Telesco
Speaker 3: just beating them all. We love it to LESCo, thanks
Speaker 3: for coming on and doing it, and we hope you
Speaker 3: have a wonderful holiday season, sir.
Speaker 8: You got it. Guys, Merk Christmas.
Speaker 3: Take care great Tom te LESCo.
Speaker 2: Big thank you to Tom Telesco. One more segment to go.
Speaker 2: We'll get you your dad and a live guy Birthday
Speaker 2: of the Day, and then we'll hand it over to
Speaker 2: David Vasse for Dodger Talk at seven.
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Speaker 3: forget we have changed the time of our remote. We
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Speaker 3: instead of four to seven or three to seven. It's
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Speaker 3: in West Covina. But now it's time with the dead
Speaker 3: guy Birthday of the day. All right, p your dead
Speaker 3: guy Birthday of the Day. There were two sides to Waterloo,
Speaker 3: and we typically only hear two sides, like Hugh Jackman
Speaker 3: of the missteps by Napoleon when we're counting it.
Speaker 2: So let's get to the guy that kicked that ass.
Speaker 2: Geb hart Lebrecked von Blucher would have been two hundred
Speaker 2: and eighty three today. Von Bluecher, one of Prussia's most
Speaker 2: famous military leaders. Born in Rostouk what is now northern Germany.
Speaker 2: I don't know how this works, but it has said
Speaker 2: he came from a modest noble family. They were nobles,
Speaker 2: but modest nobles. Began his military so.
Speaker 3: They didn't have a lot of cash. They had the
Speaker 3: title title, a little bit of property, not a lot.
Speaker 2: He began his military career at sixteen, joined the Swedish
Speaker 2: Army's light cavalry. Dropped right into the s Sweden's in
Speaker 2: a war with Prussia seven years war, Bluecher gets captured
Speaker 2: the Prussian colonel Vilchem Sebastian von Belli just so happened
Speaker 2: to be a relative, and he was impressed with keb Hard.
Speaker 2: So he's like, why don't you join us? And he
Speaker 2: did and it worked out a decision that would shape
Speaker 2: the rest of his life. It was not without its bumps.
Speaker 2: Blucher was a bit unruly impulsive, did not take well
Speaker 2: the orders, did not take well to superiors, so he
Speaker 2: quit and retired from the army.
Speaker 3: We're not moving our show, you move your show. It's right.
Speaker 2: When he was thirty and then for fifteen years he
Speaker 2: just kicked it as a farmer had an estate.
Speaker 3: It's just a kickback it's not really a party.
Speaker 2: But he longer returned to the action. Finally, the Red
Speaker 2: Hussars or Who's ours or Hussars called and he went running.
Speaker 2: He was reinstated as their colonel. He kicked some Netherland
Speaker 2: ass career advanced steadily during the Wars of the French Revolution.
Speaker 2: By the early eighteen hundreds, Napoleon's expansion and threatened Prussia
Speaker 2: much of Europe, and Bluecher was the guy commanded to
Speaker 2: stop it. So he led his Prussian forces against Napoleon.
Speaker 2: He suffered a major defeat at the Battle of Gino Orsted.
Speaker 2: But what do they say, Kate's just set it to
Speaker 2: us the other day. Hey can lose the battle, just
Speaker 2: don't lose the war. So when Blucher refused to surrender,
Speaker 2: his stubborn resistance earned him the nickname Marshall Forward, reflecting
Speaker 2: his relentless drive to attack. Regrouped, pushed for military reform,
Speaker 2: strengthened the army. Took him five years before he was
Speaker 2: ready to go back at it again. Prussia rises against
Speaker 2: Napoleon in eighteen thirteen. He commands Prussia. You know a
Speaker 2: Prussia was it man? He commanded the army.
Speaker 3: Buck Alpine village. It's not there anymore.
Speaker 2: You could still feel it every time you drive by.
Speaker 2: He scored an important victory at the Battle of Katzbach.
Speaker 2: His aggressive tactics put pressure on the French forces helped
Speaker 2: weaken Napoleon's control over Germany. Of course, we're probably not
Speaker 2: talking about Blue Chirf. He wasn't the guy calling the
Speaker 2: shots in eighteen fifteen Battle of Waterloo. Almost didn't make
Speaker 2: it pee. He's an old man. He's seventy four, but
Speaker 2: he's leading Prussian troops against Napoleon's forces. Defeated at the
Speaker 2: Battle of Lynnyi, and he was injured. His horse fell
Speaker 2: on him.
Speaker 3: That's tough his life, especially at seventy four.
Speaker 2: Right, his life was saved by the devotion of his
Speaker 2: aide des.
Speaker 3: Comt Imagine if that had happened to Don Shulo.
Speaker 2: Now I am not good with pronunciations. I believe this
Speaker 2: gentleman's name. His aide de camp was Count Nose Hits
Speaker 2: or No Seats. He threw his overcoat on top of
Speaker 2: the commander to obscure his rank and identity from the
Speaker 2: passing French. As he lay there, he bathed his wounds.
Speaker 3: Why you've downed the greatest man in our army, sir.
Speaker 2: They bathed his wounds and a liniment of rhubarb and garlic.
Speaker 2: He was four to five by a liberal internal dose
Speaker 2: of schnapps, and he rejoined his army and they were like, butcher,
Speaker 2: it's over toast the Brits. They're toast. Napoleon's won. He said,
Speaker 2: f you, and he led his army on a torturous
Speaker 2: march along muddy paths. Arrived on the field of Waterloo
Speaker 2: in the late afternoon and he said, quote forwards, I
Speaker 2: hear you say it's impossible, but it has to be done.
Speaker 2: I have given my promise to Wellington, and you surely
Speaker 2: will not have me break it. Push yourselves, my children,
Speaker 2: and I will deliver victory. The Duke of Wellington and
Speaker 2: his regiment were getting their asses kicked until Blucher showed up,
Speaker 2: turned the tide scored a decisive victory against Napoleon. He
Speaker 2: was celebrated as a hero throughout Europe. He was given
Speaker 2: land in Prussia, land in England, a hero everywhere, and
Speaker 2: according to Napoleon himself, he was quote a bull that
Speaker 2: looks around with rolling eyes, and when he sees dame
Speaker 2: your charges stubborn, untiring, but knew no fear. Then he
Speaker 2: was a man who lived for warpee. Right after he
Speaker 2: scored that victory, he died two years later.
Speaker 3: Well, he's seventy four out there with a horse falling
Speaker 3: on him.
Speaker 2: They said he was known best for his boldness, his perseverance,
Speaker 2: and his unwavering hatred of Napoleon Bonaparte.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's our guy.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: That's how people talk about like George Washington. And I
Speaker 3: heard somebody saying, like, dude, it's like six' four back,
Speaker 3: then it's like he's like eight eight feet all he's
Speaker 3: got wooden, teeth and he's all pissed. OFF i, mean
Speaker 3: we get taxed way more, now you. Know But washington wasn't,
Speaker 3: alum he's helping hand. Slap he scared the crap out
Speaker 3: of the.
Speaker 2: Bridge seventy four years, old old man with a beautiful big,
Speaker 2: mustache shut up and put me on the.
Speaker 3: Horse, well today we celebrate a great action movie maker and.
Speaker 3: Actor Shane black sixty four, today born In, Pittsburgh. Hello From, Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3: Hello he moved To fullerton when he was, young went
Speaker 3: To Sunny Hills High, school same place As Jackson. Brown Go.
Speaker 2: Lancers you know we should book him if we ever
Speaker 2: get back To.
Speaker 3: Fullerton great, Call. Matt he loved the hard boiled fiction
Speaker 3: Of Mickey. Spillani went TO, ucla majored in, theater screen,
Speaker 3: wrote and. Acted worked as a clerk during the nineteen
Speaker 3: eighty Four. Olympics his first script was Called The Shadow.
Speaker 3: Company it was A vietnam paranormal. Thriller never got, made
Speaker 3: but it put him on the radar Of Warner. Brothers
Speaker 3: he doesn't want to greenlight, that so then when he
Speaker 3: wrote his first movie that got green, lighted it Was
Speaker 3: Warner brothers that green lit the light and that Was Lethal.
Speaker 3: Weapon he also Did Lethal weapon. Two this song is
Speaker 3: The Bill medley version the intro Of Friday night's A
Speaker 3: Great night For, football one of my favorite movies, ever
Speaker 3: The Tony scott directed. Masterpiece he produced and Wrote Bruce
Speaker 3: willis And Damon wayne's In The Last Boy scout nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety one favorite of.
Speaker 2: Mine Header.
Speaker 3: Gut it's a great football detective. Movie yes it. Is in,
Speaker 3: Fact Quentin tarantino said that he Hired Bruce willis for
Speaker 3: pulp fiction just to be the exact same character that he.
Speaker 2: Was The Last Boy scout pretty.
Speaker 3: Great he wrote and Produced The Long kiss Good, night
Speaker 3: directed and Wrote Kiss Kiss Bank Bank great With Bob.
Speaker 3: Downey Last Action hero With Arnold.
Speaker 2: Underrated a little.
Speaker 3: Bit he Did ironman. Three he Did The Nice guys
Speaker 3: and some movie with uh, oh that was With macthe.
Speaker 3: Right crow did another one with no that Was. Crow,
Speaker 3: oh it was a. Gostling. Right he did another one
Speaker 3: With mac.
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Speaker 3: Amazing uncredited script doctor For, predator and he's the actor
Speaker 3: that Played, hawkins the guy that gets shot early In.
Speaker 3: Predator that's. Cool that's this, Guy Shane. Black he Doctored
Speaker 3: The hunt For Red. October he acted in that movie as.
Speaker 3: Well most of his movies are based During christmas because
Speaker 3: he liked the odd counterpoint The christmas season adds to
Speaker 3: the plot of. Movies he Saw christmas as a place
Speaker 3: of beauty here in our, City Los, angeles where you
Speaker 3: have to dig for little nuggets quote unquote the king
Speaker 3: of The christmas buddy cop, Movie Shane. Black here is
Speaker 3: a clip from our favorite film, Ever The Last Boy.
Speaker 9: Scout, okay now that's not, polite it's very abusive. Sounding
Speaker 9: what would you, Do joseph if somebody told you to go.
Speaker 9: Yourself would you cut one of their eyes?
Speaker 3: Out? No what would you?
Speaker 9: Do you think yourself? Cool don't?
Speaker 8: You you think?
Speaker 9: Yourself? Well this, ONCE i would like to hear you
Speaker 9: scream in. Pain play some rap, Music.
Speaker 3: Joe, Hollimbeck The Last, Boy, scout good.
Speaker 2: STUFF i think that Was negron right doing that scene
Speaker 2: with he was.
Speaker 3: Great it's a bad.
Speaker 2: Guy, yeah play some mad.
Speaker 4: Music what a?
Speaker 3: Line what a? Line Halle berry in an Early.
Speaker 2: Now that you say it. Too, yeah he's the same
Speaker 2: dude in pulp, fiction same.
Speaker 3: DUDE i JUST i saw a thing Where Quentin tarantina
Speaker 3: was talking About he's, Like, now that's a. Movie all
Speaker 3: the act. Up The Last, Boy. SCOTT i love that.
Speaker 3: Movie that's WHY i Hired Bruce. WILLIS i told him
Speaker 3: you Played Joe hollimbeck And My boy And zed is.
Speaker 3: Dead jed just. Died the guy that Played zed is.
Speaker 3: Dead he's. Dead he died In New.
Speaker 2: York negron's dead, Too.
Speaker 3: Yeah he died. Too But zed died like three days.
Speaker 3: Ago look at in a pool of. Blood oh that's.
Speaker 3: Unfortunate tough news these, days especially around the holiday, season
Speaker 3: and we had to change our. Remote we'll be on
Speaker 3: full show tomorrow three o'clock scheduled. Talk Dodger talk is
Speaker 3: next with Bitch Ass day