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Speaker 1: Joe Hagan from All Decked Out. He's a local deck builder,

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Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour. In the meantime again, our

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Speaker 2: Hey Gary.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just finished painting my gutters and down spouts,

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Speaker 3: et c. But I ended up choosing a nap that

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Speaker 2: Big too thick, and got some drops on the sidewalk

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Speaker 2: and the driveway of course on concrete. And I've tried

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Speaker 2: getting them out using everything gasoline, wirebrush, oops, even a

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Speaker 2: little drimmal tool, you know, but you still see you

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Speaker 2: still see that white paint, even.

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Speaker 3: The outlines on the on the concrete. Do you know

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Speaker 3: or you were, of any product that might.

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Speaker 4: Remove that.

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Speaker 2: Dried paint from the round forest concrete?

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Speaker 1: Your your oops should take care of it. The problem is,

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Speaker 1: I think, is that paint splatter has penetrated into the concrete,

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Speaker 1: which makes it a little more difficult. I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: concrete's hard, but there's capillaries in it. So if the

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Speaker 1: paint actually works down into the capillaries because it's not

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Speaker 1: sealed or something along those lines, it'll be more challenging

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Speaker 1: to get out. I guess one of the things would

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Speaker 1: be like a regular paint stripper. There's a eco friendly

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Speaker 1: in other words, you know, you could even use it

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Speaker 1: inside for something in the future. But it's called smart Strip.

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Speaker 1: It's made by Demand Global, and if you go to

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Speaker 1: their website, they may have products just for splatters. I'm

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Speaker 1: not familiar with it. They make four different types of

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Speaker 1: paint strippers, you know, even some for apoxies and lead

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Speaker 1: based paints, but the Smart Strip Advanced is pretty much

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Speaker 1: their go to for a latex akrillic paint. And I'm

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Speaker 1: you would you would put a lather of that on there.

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Speaker 1: Is it spread across a large area or is it

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Speaker 1: just a little bit here and there, a little bit

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Speaker 3: But I got it all around there around the house,

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Speaker 3: back patio and almost. I mean, you think I'd spilt

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Speaker 3: the paint, but no, it's it's drops from the heavy

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, I'd stay away from the wire brush.

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Speaker 1: I'd stay away from the drumal tools because you're really

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Speaker 1: compromising to finish on that, opening up the pores even

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Speaker 1: more and probably you know you can grind it off,

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Speaker 1: but you're going to change the texture and everything else.

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Speaker 3: I think it changed everything in places where I tried that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so if you want to check it out. I

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Speaker 1: mean a lot of people will carry the like ACE hardware.

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Speaker 1: I know they have it. It's smart strip non Global,

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Speaker 1: or go on their website demand Global dot com. I

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Speaker 1: believe is what it is and take a look at

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Speaker 1: those strippers and that might be the best way for

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Speaker 1: the surface and also for removal. It's not like the

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Speaker 1: strippers of old where you would just put it on

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Speaker 1: and in you know, fifteen seconds, you can wipe it off.

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Speaker 2: So even though that paint may have worked its way

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this will work its way down also.

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Speaker 1: I do. That's why I said I would check out

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Speaker 1: their website and see if they've got you know, smaller

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Speaker 1: along those lines. Just check out their website because I

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Speaker 1: feel very cert and it'll remove the paint. But I

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Speaker 3: Ask one more time before we hang up. What did

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Speaker 3: you call that product again? Or website one more time?

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Speaker 1: The website is Dumont. It's d U M O n

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Speaker 1: D Global dot com Dumon.

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Speaker 1: The name of the product, if you want to google

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Speaker 1: it is smart Strip Advanced.

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Speaker 3: Got it all right? Thanks Gary, I appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: You're quite welcome. Thank you, Bye bye. All right. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: brings up an interesting point and rollers, It's not just

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Speaker 1: On your newer advanced crytics and water based paints. Polyester

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Speaker 1: brushes are outstanding, and especially for gutters. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if i'd use a roller a good polyester brush, she'll

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Speaker 1: walls xterior, I've seen it happen many times. The texture

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Speaker 1: depth of the pile of the roller. It starts down

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Speaker 1: on like a three sixteenths of an inch a quarter

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Speaker 1: inch of three ace a half inch. For just most

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Speaker 1: smooth surfaces like drywall inside your house, three ace of

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Speaker 1: an inch is enough. You start having a little bit

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Speaker 1: of texture on some drywall a half inch. You've got

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Speaker 1: a concrete block probably five ace of an inch, but

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Speaker 1: using your wrong type of tool can certainly lead you

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Speaker 5: Doug, welcome, Hey, thanks for taking my call. I just

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Speaker 5: move back from Florida and the house I bought has

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Speaker 5: a detached garage a shingle roof has the moss build up.

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Speaker 5: Is it best to use what you forget and then

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Speaker 5: crush it or use it deck crush first.

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Speaker 1: And no, I think I would use the wet and forget.

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Speaker 1: I do think, depending on the thickness of the moss, Doug,

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Speaker 1: it may take two applications, but we got all winter

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Speaker 1: to work on this, right. You know, you know, daylight

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Speaker 1: today is really perfect. You'll have minimal vaporation. You get

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Speaker 1: don't even look at it till Christmas time and see

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Speaker 1: if it's starting to turn brown and starting to loosen up.

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Speaker 1: And if it's not, you get kind of a cloudy

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Speaker 1: forty degree day, go ahead and spray it again, okay.

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Speaker 5: And then if it needs it after that, deck rush earth.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you gotta be yes, you can deck brush it,

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Speaker 4: but you've got to be careful because if it's actually moss,

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Speaker 4: roots of the moss can really pull off the protection

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Speaker 1: I don't know how old that roof is. Maybe a

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Speaker 1: lot of that's already off. I don't know, but I

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Speaker 1: would let it do its work chemically and kind of

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Speaker 5: All right, right, thanks for you.

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Speaker 1: You're quite welcome. Take care. All right. Our lines are open,

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Speaker 1: so I invite you in, and then we're going to

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Speaker 1: right now, and so Joe Hagen, he's a local contractor.

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Speaker 1: The name of his business is all decked out. You

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Speaker 7: It kept weeping water, We couldn't get it all out.

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Speaker 1: Is this a steel tub, John, I mean steal with

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Speaker 7: I guess use over the years with a small chip.

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Speaker 3: That they drilled.

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Speaker 7: So it yeah, I was able to free up all

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Speaker 7: going to relieve all the water pressure that built up

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Speaker 1: That's that's interesting. So just to kind of recap make

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Speaker 1: for you. But the chip was through like the porcelain covering,

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Speaker 1: good that they figured that out. You'll do that double

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Speaker 1: drill when when you have fiberglass shower bases a lot

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Speaker 1: when they cracked, but I haven't heard about it on

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so they did that, and of course then they

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Speaker 7: so yeah, success, and you know, they they've worked some

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Speaker 1: Very good. Well, thanks for letting us know. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, thanks all right, John.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, And from John we go to John John Welcome.

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Speaker 8: Hello, Yes, sir, Yes, I've got a problem with.

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Speaker 9: I added on room in my house houses the add Ons,

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Speaker 9: probably about forty years old. In the attico they took

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Speaker 8: It's craft based.

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Speaker 1: What kind of insulation are you putting in open cell

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Speaker 8: Just the just the blown in fiberglass.

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Speaker 1: Oh, just blown in fiberglass. And is this in a wall?

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Speaker 1: You say?

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Speaker 1: In the ceilings, Oh, in the ceiling okay. And the

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Speaker 8: Uh no, uhh the face it's backwards. They yeah, I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, your paper facing should face your living area

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Speaker 8: Yes, well it's I mean, it's not nailed in or

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Speaker 8: has heard the guy that, uh can I just use

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Speaker 8: I've just got the algae on my roof and it

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, yep. And you can get it in a concentrator.

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Speaker 1: You can get it where you just connected with a

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Speaker 8: Okay. And we're planning on putting in a metal roof

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Speaker 8: what do I need to put on top of there?

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Speaker 8: And I know that I need to take and put

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Speaker 1: Well, I think you got to take it. You know

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Speaker 1: there was probably plywood used in there. You're going to

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Speaker 1: and then any sagging wood or something we certainly need

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Speaker 1: helps you, John, Thank you very much for the call.

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Speaker 1: His name is Joe Hagen. He's president of a company

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Speaker 10: Gary, thanks so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: You're quite welcome. So hou'se the decking business this year,

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Speaker 10: Year has been great at first, start off a little

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Speaker 1: Boy, you said a mouthful there in our city. It

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Speaker 1: everything seemed to break. You know. One of the things

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Speaker 1: that's been a trend probably for ten years is outdoor living,

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Speaker 1: and of course, for many of us, that means a

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Speaker 1: really really nice deck. Can you just kind of give

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Speaker 10: Yeah, a lot of people these days are going for composite,

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Speaker 10: low maintenance material. They're tired of standing their deck and

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Speaker 10: these days. But a lot of people are just seeing

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the deck has become very much a

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Speaker 10: It is an extension of the home, and a lot

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Speaker 10: of times it's more important than like an indoor part

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Speaker 10: it's a great place to like, hey, let's go out

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Speaker 10: to find and enjoy the outdoor space together. That's a

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Speaker 10: great it's a great feature to have add a lot

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Speaker 1: Jaws over our friend's house a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 10: Job, it is, and every good deck starts with a

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Speaker 10: have a well built deck. You know, how you're going

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Speaker 10: a great idea to at a drainage system underneath theater,

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Speaker 10: just adds so much more upperalytic space off spending the

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Speaker 1: Other area, whether it's another patio area or even storage.

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Speaker 1: I've seen used. But having it dries good. Yes, Yeah,

435
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Speaker 1: So I guess the first thing I guess people can

436
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 1: make mistakes is just a planning, just kind of just

437
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: thinking a square deck and will be undone that would

438
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Speaker 1: be a mistake.

439
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Speaker 10: Yes, I mean you want to think about where you

440
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Speaker 10: place the steps, you know, because you're gonna have walkway

441
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 10: zones where you're gonna place furniture, because you know you're

442
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 10: not going to place furniture right in front of a

443
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 10: door right in front of walkway. So designing a deck

444
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 10: is very important for like traffic flow. And I've seen

445
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 10: a lot of decks not designed very well. And you

446
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 10: can pay a lot of money and have a really

447
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 10: big deck built with multi levels which looks good for pictures,

448
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 10: but sometimes it's not so functional. And with the cost

449
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 10: of materials think so high with composite. You don't want

450
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 10: to waste a lot of square footage due to a

451
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 10: bad design because you're just spending unnecessary money.

452
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Speaker 1: Sure, we're going to get to the decking structures in

453
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Speaker 1: a minute. Here. One of the things I get calls

454
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Speaker 1: on a lot of times is people have an old

455
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: deck that hasn't been maintained, or it's just getting old,

456
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: or they're just it's getting real old, staining it every

457
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 1: year or two, and oh, I'll just put some composites

458
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: on top of this and everything will be okay. And

459
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: I'm going, well, hold on, composites are a little more

460
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: expensive than they then you know, pressure treated wood, and

461
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: the installation's a little different, and what kind of shape

462
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 1: is you're framing? Do you run into those questions almost

463
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: every day? Really? Okay?

464
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Speaker 10: Yeah, so a lot of people think, oh, my deck's

465
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 10: been here fifteen twenty years, the frame is good, we're

466
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 10: just gonna we want to replace it with some positive decking.

467
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 10: And you know, when you remove those boards, you're going

468
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 10: to leave with thousands of holes in there so water

469
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 10: can get in there and create rocks. A lot of

470
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,959
Speaker 10: times it's best to just you know, redo the framing.

471
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Speaker 10: If your deck's over you know, let's say five or

472
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 10: ten years old, you know, you want to make sure

473
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Speaker 10: that that frame is going to last. You don't want

474
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Speaker 10: to put decking that has a fifty year warranty on

475
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 10: a frame that might last another ten more. That could

476
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 10: be a really expensive mistake. So it's always best to

477
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 10: have a professional out to take a look at it.

478
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Speaker 10: Coach change as well, you know, every few years coach change.

479
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Speaker 1: So.

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Speaker 10: It's not as easy as just swapping it out, putting

481
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 10: new deck down, because you know you're going to see

482
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 10: all those imperfections that might have you might not have

483
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 10: seen from like wood wood decking, right, So sometimes it's

484
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 10: better to just to start with wood woods. You know,

485
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 10: probably the least expensive thing on a deck. It's like

486
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Speaker 10: I found of the home, but it's the most important part,

487
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 10: you know.

488
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Speaker 1: Plus your composites they're not all load bearing, right, whereas

489
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: pressure treated is. I mean you might have twenty inch

490
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: centered joye and in a lot of cases can't do

491
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: that with a composite.

492
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 10: Yeah, you're right, Like if it was two by six framing,

493
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 10: I can't put composite decking on there because our composite

494
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 10: decking is only spanned for sixteen inches, so it's very

495
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 10: important for the spanning as well.

496
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 5: So quite a wavy deck.

497
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so the types of decking, and a lot of

498
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: people know about pressure treat it wouldn't one thing they

499
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: know is there's a lot of maintenance in it. And

500
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Speaker 1: don't let anybody tell you there isn't a lot of maintenance.

501
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: There is a lot of maintenance. We talk about it

502
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: every weekend. But we're seeing a lot of different types

503
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: of composite decking. Now we see capped, we see non capped,

504
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: we see I'm not going to say heat proof but

505
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: doesn't absorb as much heat, so that that appeals to

506
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: some people. We have some that have wood grains in it,

507
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: some don't have wood grains in it. Are those all

508
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: based on the expense of the deck or what should

509
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: I be looking at if I start working with a

510
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: contractor even yourself. How do you pick the right kind

511
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Speaker 1: of decking?

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Speaker 10: Gary? That is a great question, and there's so many

513
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 10: different decking options on the market it can be overwhelming.

514
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 10: All the different manufacturers typically are going to have like

515
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 10: a good, better, best, But what that means is basically

516
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 10: price point scenario. Your higher end deck boards are going

517
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 10: to have more wood grains, more color variations, and then

518
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,239
Speaker 10: your lower cost boards are going to be more like

519
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 10: uncapped at the bottom, not fully encapsulated or less color options.

520
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 10: More you know, less wood grain. For your lower cost options.

521
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 10: There's gonna be products out there that have that's made

522
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 10: with PVC. Your higher end ones are going to be

523
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 10: made with like mineral based and then you know, some

524
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 10: of your middle to low cost ones are gonna be

525
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 10: like a wood plastic, so it's basically sal dust plastic

526
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 10: like recycled material with a PVC coding. Those are going

527
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 10: to be your more economical ones, and those do absorb heat,

528
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 10: and that's what you're and that's basically what you're paying for,

529
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 10: is the you know, the performance of it. Some of

530
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 10: them are gonna get hotter. Your lower cost deckboards are

531
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Speaker 10: gonna get a little bit hotter, They're going to scuff

532
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 10: up a little bit easier. Your higher end boards are

533
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 10: going to be more heat resistance, more color like color

534
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,719
Speaker 10: variations in the boards. Sure, A lot of times it

535
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 10: comes down to what you want to spend and kind

536
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 10: of what your personal preferences too. If you're going to

537
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 10: have a roof over a deck, maybe you don't need

538
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 10: all the the higher end characteristics of some of the

539
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 10: more costly boards. But a lot of times it comes

540
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Speaker 10: down to color too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and positioning, right, I mean the positioning of the

542
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: deck and the initial building phase may come in with temperature.

543
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Speaker 10: Absolutely so Yeah, if you're going to have your deck

544
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 10: exposed to you know, direct sun all day long, going

545
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 10: with a wood plastic composite, it would be really hot,

546
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,239
Speaker 10: to say the least in the you know, in the

547
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 10: evening time, where your mineral based deck boards are going

548
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 10: to dissipate heat a lot faster. They all get hot.

549
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 10: But the difference is with the mineral based composite deck

550
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 10: boards is that they dissipate heat a lot faster, so

551
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 10: by like six seven o'clock, it's a lot cooler, or

552
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 10: some of the wood plastics stay hotter for a lot longer.

553
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Speaker 1: Okay, So when you're you talked about the base the frame,

554
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Speaker 1: when you're kind of looking at that and you're talking about,

555
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Speaker 1: you know, a high end maybe a six figure deck,

556
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: tell me about my options. I remember when Treks rolled

557
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Speaker 1: out the first one, I think it was a steel

558
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: framing and then you said aluminum and composits on that. Now.

559
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Speaker 10: Yeah, so they have Owen's Corning makes a composite lumber.

560
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 10: You do have to be careful with span. It doesn't

561
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 10: span of stars like your steel in your wood. So

562
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 10: they have composite framing out now they're steel framing tracks

563
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 10: and fortress. They have steel framing options. And then you

564
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 10: also have aluminum as really coming into the market now.

565
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Speaker 10: And you know, so there's some great alternative framing options

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Speaker 10: that if you don't ever want to have to deal

567
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Speaker 10: with rod again, you don't have to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I'll tell you what one thing everybody know

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Speaker 1: that has a deck, an older deck, an old you know,

570
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Speaker 1: press tree deck that's ten, fifteen, twenty years old. They

571
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Speaker 1: don't like it. They do want to get rid of it.

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Speaker 1: So if I can keep you for about ten minutes more,

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Speaker 1: can we take a break in that lift to come

574
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: back and let's inspect an older deck. Things we should

575
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Speaker 1: look for. Is that sound fair?

576
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Speaker 10: Sounds fair?

577
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Speaker 1: All right? Joe Hagen, he's the president of a company

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Speaker 1: Joe Hagen, he's president of All Decked Out and builds wonderful, beautiful,

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Speaker 1: beautiful decks And Joe, I'm sure you've got a lot

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Speaker 1: And is there also a website where people can get

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I definitely have a lot of pictures on our

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Speaker 10: website and our social media and to get ideas a

627
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,479
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Speaker 10: get some ideas of what you're thinking about doing. But

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Speaker 10: looking at different deck builder's website or gallery, you can

630
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Speaker 10: definitely get a lot of ideas and inspirations from there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what's your website.

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Speaker 10: It's www dot all decked out five to one three

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Speaker 1: Very good, so folks, you can take a look at

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Speaker 1: that all right. A lot of people with the old

636
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: decks I was telling, you know, talking about that and

637
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: old decks meaning it could be uh, any generation of

638
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: pressure treated wood from CCA to AQM, on and on

639
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: and on and on and every now and then in

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Speaker 1: the news. In fact, in our city it wasn't a deck.

641
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: It was just a little balcony. You hear about the

642
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: problems where they collapse and you know, too many people

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Speaker 1: on here, or it wasn't built properly. And so walk

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Speaker 1: me through. If I have an old deck on the

645
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: back end of my house, it's it's not the greatest

646
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: maintained deck in the world. And what can I do

647
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 1: to just inspect it, just to kind of get an

648
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Speaker 1: idea is this thing and I'm not talking about a

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Speaker 1: collapse and though that could be one, but is it safe?

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Speaker 1: I mean there's nails, there's splinter and what things is

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Speaker 1: there corrosion? What? What things? And where would I inspect

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Speaker 1: an old wood deck?

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Speaker 10: Yes, And that is a very important topic. I feel like,

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Speaker 10: you know, a lot of people get a false sense

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Speaker 10: of security while walking on a deck. I honestly think

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Speaker 10: it's best to hire a deck professional to come out

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Speaker 10: do an inspection, you know, after your deck's like five

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Speaker 10: or ten, like maybe like ten years old, maybe every

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Speaker 10: few years, hire a deck professional. I think the city

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Speaker 10: a lot of times does free inspections as well. You know,

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Speaker 10: most homeowners don't build their you know, build decks for

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Speaker 10: a living, so they don't really know what to look for.

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Speaker 10: And you know, there are resources and there are companies

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Speaker 10: out there that will inspect the deck, and I feel

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Speaker 10: like that's a very important thing to do. As far

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Speaker 10: as like what the most important features are on a deck,

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Speaker 10: I would say the attachment to the house number one,

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Speaker 10: because a lot of times we pull decks off to

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Speaker 10: build a brand new one and realize there's a lot

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Speaker 10: of rot going on because you know, whoever bloke the

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Speaker 10: original deck didn't install proper flashing, and you know, water

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Speaker 10: is the enemy really with these products. If it starts

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Speaker 10: breaking down and rots because you need airflow too, so

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Speaker 10: it's like you have water and if it doesn't get

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Speaker 10: the proper airflow that it needs, it's going to accelerate

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Speaker 10: rot and that's where it can be dangerous. Hardware if

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Speaker 10: it rusts, you know, those can fail as well. So

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Speaker 10: a lot of things to look at. I'm not as concerned.

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Speaker 10: A lot of people get worried about, like their post

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Speaker 10: cracking or have a vertical cracker split. We call that checking.

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Speaker 10: I'm not as worried about that. It's actually very common

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Speaker 10: and normal. But if you see a horizontal, horizontal crack,

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Speaker 10: that could.

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Speaker 5: Be a load issue.

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Speaker 10: So that's probably one of the biggest things that people

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Speaker 10: ask me about. You know, is a structure okay, because

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Speaker 10: they see cracks in the wood, and you know that's normal.

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Speaker 10: But you know, all in all, I would say it's

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Speaker 10: best to have a professional look at the deck, you know,

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Speaker 10: and I think many of the cities will even do

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Speaker 10: that for free.

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Speaker 1: One question I have because I get asked the question

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Speaker 1: a lot, and you're right. I mean, a homeowner, unless

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Speaker 1: they're very train and you're going to tackle one of

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Speaker 1: these big decks, it's no place for you if you're

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Speaker 1: going to have a little deck maybe and you know

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Speaker 1: what you're doing, that's fine. How are posts treated with

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Speaker 1: decks now, I mean they in ground on above ground?

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Speaker 1: I get asked that question a bunch.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, they put a lot of chemicals in it now

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Speaker 10: for ground contact. You know, the treatment goes that goes

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Speaker 10: into it's treated for ground contact. But you still want to,

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Speaker 10: you know, add extra layer of protection. We actually use

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Speaker 10: a coating around the base of it, almost like a

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Speaker 10: rubber coating. Or it's better to put it on teerstyle

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Speaker 10: footers where it's not really touching the ground. You know,

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Speaker 10: there's there's pros and cons to both, but.

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Speaker 5: WOULD that you use is definitely.

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Speaker 10: Critical as well. Like even the framing of the decks

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Speaker 10: we use. It's rated for ground contact even though we

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Speaker 10: use it above ground, so added layer of protection.

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Speaker 1: I tell everybody there's only one kind of pressure treated

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Speaker 1: WOULD and that's ground contact. Yeah, don't save a few dollars,

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Speaker 1: don't save a few.

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Speaker 5: Dollars, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: All right. I'm just trying to so what's it. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to ask what a price range is because

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Speaker 1: I'm going to guess a price range for a deck

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Speaker 1: and there's all different sizes and styles. It could be

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Speaker 1: fifty thousand, it could be one hundred and fifty thousand,

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Speaker 1: and you've probably bought to build even more expensive ones.

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Speaker 1: Is that true?

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Speaker 10: That is true?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean the price varies.

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Speaker 10: I mean it really just depends on the materials. You

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Speaker 10: can do it if your budget consience, so you can

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Speaker 10: do it for you know, a good value, but it

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Speaker 10: is a large investment, and that's why sometimes it is

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Speaker 10: better to just leave it up to the pros, you know,

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Speaker 10: versus doing it yourself, because mistakes are very costly if

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Speaker 10: the materials is expensive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Probably My final question to you will be when

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Speaker 1: you're looking at decking and you're talking to a contractor

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Speaker 1: and you're educating them, warranty on that decking is important.

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Speaker 1: Also people are worried about it fading, scratching, peeling, whatever

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Speaker 1: the case may be. What is a good warranty for

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Speaker 1: a composite decking?

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Speaker 10: Now, yeah, most almost industry standard is going to be

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Speaker 10: twenty five years to fifty years on the warranty, and

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Speaker 10: a lot of these companies now are offering because now

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Speaker 10: they're kind of competing with each other on a warranty.

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Speaker 10: Would be to offer a labor warranty associated with it.

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Speaker 10: I think that's very important that you know, if you're

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Speaker 10: going to have a deck of that, and you know

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Speaker 10: that kind of investment, you want to make sure if

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Speaker 10: anything happens, they don't just give you out. You know,

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Speaker 10: put out new decking on your driveway and then you

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Speaker 10: have to reinstall it. A good company that really backs

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Speaker 10: their products going to pay for that to be installed.

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Speaker 1: Right, And there's an element of comfort. I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: making a sizable investment in your home. You're enlarging your house.

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Speaker 1: Outdoor living is the thing, and you want it to

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Speaker 1: be there as long as you're there. So I totally

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Speaker 1: agree with you. Joe, thank you so much for joining

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Speaker 1: us today. I appreciate it. It was a pleasure.

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Speaker 10: Thank you, Gary.

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Speaker 1: All Right, it's all decked out five to one three

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Speaker 1: area where our flagship station is and we thank him

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