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Speaker 1: Very happy Wednesday to you, Brian Thomas here in always

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Speaker 1: benefit all Americans. Welcome back from AFP, Donovan and Neil.

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Speaker 1: It's great having you back on the show, sir Brian.

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Speaker 2: Always great to be with you.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, sort of springing from my comment about German

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Speaker 1: thirty one. This is County your twenty twenty six. I

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Speaker 1: our ever growing energy demands Donovan O'Neill. Well, yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Think what we're seeing is a shift not just around

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Speaker 2: What that means, Brian, is we're gonna unleash energy abundance.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna instead of saying there's only so much of

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Speaker 1: This scarcity model was built on a lie. It was

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Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, Okay, yeah, I want to make.

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Speaker 1: Sure we were clear on that concept because it's something

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Speaker 1: religion we're going after, Donovan. Isn't it carbon dioxide? Evil

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Speaker 1: Finally, we're all coming out and waking up to the

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Speaker 2: That's right. Well, and in talking with lawmakers about this,

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Speaker 2: It's where we find ourselves in this situation today, high

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Speaker 1: the long run. At least he's speaking reality now, Donovan,

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Speaker 1: and maybe the pgams of the world were all itching

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, money aside. The difference here is between renewable

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the whole thing about PGAM puzzles. Yes, they're

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Speaker 1: Amen, and maybe the Speed Act might be something transformative

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Speaker 1: On the thirtieth at seven forty fifty five KRCD Talk Station,

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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas here with Donovan and Neil, Americans for Prospered.

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Speaker 1: Do we do this? Everyone? Stay be again at seven

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Speaker 1: thirty talking energy policy. Well, Donovan, it sounds like we

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Speaker 1: of that. But there is the Speed Act, which AFP

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Speaker 1: And do we have an option to actually get this through?

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Speaker 2: Well, it passed out of Congress, the lower chamber, and

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Speaker 2: and we see an opportunity with this January thirtieth funding deadline.

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Speaker 2: And what it would do, Brian, for your listener's benefit,

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Speaker 2: Even with modern reforms like Chevron and regulatory reforms like

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Speaker 1: Are these unnamed, unknown, unelected regulators behind the scenes that

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Speaker 2: We know does anyone fully understand the mind of a bureaucrat?

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Speaker 2: That is very much in front of us right now

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Speaker 2: to his administration to work and identify these problems. The

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Speaker 2: so this. By doing that, we can unleash energy abundance

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Speaker 1: All right, Donald, and nail Americans for a prosperity call

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Speaker 1: Yep, we'll see if the government shuts down on January

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Speaker 1: thirtieth too as well over defunding ICE. Yeah, okay, Donovan

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Speaker 1: me Americans for a prosperity on behalf of my listening audience.

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Speaker 1: Thank you and everyone with everyone with AFP for what

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Speaker 1: with our elected officials and working toward achieving these good

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Speaker 1: You continue to help us out. We'll talk again next Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Donaldan O'Neil, thanks for what you do.

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Speaker 2: Thanks as always.

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