1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: ESPN beat writer covering the Chicago Bears, frequent ESPN Radio 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: and Mothership TV contributor and covered the Bikes for a 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: spell too, and always enjoys this division rivalry between the 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: Bears and the Minnesota Vikings. 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: Hello, Cec, It's Paul Allen. How have you been. 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 3: I'm great. 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: How are you doing excellent? 8 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for making time and you know 9 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: the the before we get into this division collision. The 10 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: last handful of years, beloved Cordney, last handful of years, 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: you've hosted mucho radio shows to compliment the television part 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: that you've done for for I think more years. 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: What do you like more? And why radio or TV? 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: Oh boy, put me on the spot here. I think 15 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 3: the TV element and like getting a chance to you know, 16 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 3: I guess the opportunities that's opened up for me the 17 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 3: last couple of years have been really cool because I've 18 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 3: gotten to do a multitude of roles, getting to host, 19 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 3: getting to be an analyst, getting to be a reporter, 20 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 3: getting to do sideline. Like I've enjoyed all of it, 21 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 3: and it's it's crazy to think, like how much I've 22 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 3: packed into this season alone, Like my roles have expanded 23 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 3: quite a bit just beyond the Bears, and I enjoy it. 24 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 3: I love I love all of it. But I mean 25 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: radio is Radio is going to be my bread and 26 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 3: butter forever. Like that's the OG in my opinion, because 27 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 3: it gave me the ability to learn how to debate, 28 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: to learn how to make a clear and concise point, 29 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 3: and be able to talk about a lot of different things, 30 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 3: not just football. 31 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: That's a spectacular, wonderful answer to the game. 32 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 2: So the Bears. 33 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: So the team is running for one hundred and eighty 34 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: five per since the buye is developing the clutch gene 35 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: off the last two and is winless in the division. 36 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: What are what are the Minnesota Vikings getting this weekend 37 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: with the Chicago Bears. 38 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 3: You're getting a resilient team that I think now has 39 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: the proof of cons since the last time they played 40 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 3: the Vikings that they can close out type games, which 41 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: they've done now. I mean, Caleb Williams has four fourth 42 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 3: quarter drives that have led to wins. 43 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: That's tied it for. 44 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 3: The most right now behind Eve Baker, Mayfield and Bonnix. 45 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: So it's the clutch gene that they're developing, which I'm 46 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 3: sure some Viking fans here that and think twenty twenty 47 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 3: two all over again. Different team, obviously different circumstances, but 48 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 3: wild wins that end in wild games that end in 49 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 3: how did they just win that fashion? And you've got 50 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 3: a quarterback who's developing like it's taken Caleb Williams ten 51 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 3: to eleven weeks now to I think feel fully comfortable 52 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 3: using his full skill set, which you saw to beat 53 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 3: the Giants, relied on him to use his legs that 54 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 3: twenty nine yard scamper to get down to the two 55 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 3: yard line to set up Roma Dunze for the touchdown 56 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 3: and then the seventeen yard touchdown at the end of 57 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 3: the game. Like they're putting it together. It came along slowly. 58 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 3: They didn't come out and start beating teams, and obviously 59 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 3: those two division games and two division losses, that's brutal. 60 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: That's a whole that they have they've got to dig 61 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 3: out from. But they've beaten the teams that they should beat, 62 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: and a lot of people are going to look at 63 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 3: the defensive performances of the Bengals, of the Giants, of 64 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: the Commanders, especially that Commander secondary, and certainly the Cowboys 65 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 3: are not very good either. And be like, well, they 66 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 3: beat up on some bad teams. But if you're a 67 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 3: team that's trying to change the culture and do things differently, 68 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: shouldn't you be I guess, proud and touting the wins 69 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 3: that you had, even if they do come against bad teams. 70 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 3: But that's the part that I think they're not going 71 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: to apologize for because it does come at a cost 72 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 3: of you know, if you want to beat the good teams, 73 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 3: you have to demonstrate you can do it against the 74 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 3: teams you're more evenly matched with first. And I feel 75 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 3: like that's where they are right now coming into this 76 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 3: game in week eleven. 77 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: Right, all right, but with the Bears Courtney, when when 78 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: they do get into trouble, no matter against home, well, 79 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: let's say when they get into trouble against non playoff 80 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: teams like the Bengals or the Giants or the Raiders, 81 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: what generally is happening. 82 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: Well, I mean the reason they got in trouble against 83 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 3: the Bengals was, I mean, it's kind of it's two 84 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: different things. So they're up, they almost go up by seventeen, 85 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: and if that pick six wasn't called back, and then 86 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 3: they give up two touchdowns in the stretch of forty 87 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 3: nine seconds, So that makes Caleb Williams and the offense 88 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 3: have to go into hero mode to carry the defense. 89 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 3: And the defense had carried this offense for so many 90 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 3: weeks that it was an encouraging sign for Ben Johnson 91 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 3: to see that his offense, on a day where they 92 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 3: pulled out every trick play I think they had in 93 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 3: his playbook, was able to pull off that win and 94 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 3: find a rookie tight end who had been underutilized as 95 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 3: a whole up until that point, and get Colson Lovelin 96 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 3: involved for the game winning touchdown. Like that, to me 97 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 3: was the reason the products of the comeback there for 98 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 3: like you know, letting it get close and then letting 99 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 3: the come happened. But against the Giants, I think it's 100 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 3: like twofold. The Giants were the worst sports quarter team 101 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 3: in the NFL, as evidenced by what you saw in 102 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: Denver a couple of weeks ago, and the Bears knew that. 103 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 3: But the Bears didn't do themselves any favors by not 104 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 3: putting a spy on Jackson Dart and letting him get out, break, contain, 105 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 3: and rush for two touchdowns like honestly, pain if I 106 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 3: think if he finishes that game, if he doesn't leave 107 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 3: with a concussion, I don't know that it's a win 108 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 3: for Chicago. 109 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 4: They don't. 110 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 3: I think that it was a product of circumstance but 111 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 3: also timely blitzes what they saw from CJ. Gardner Johnson 112 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 3: to pin the Giants back in their own territory on 113 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 3: in late and third quarter and then start to get 114 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 3: the offense in better field position. Like that came along 115 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 3: later than they probably would have hoped, but at least 116 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 3: it was at the right time for their sake to 117 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 3: be able to pull off wins. 118 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: The left tackle. 119 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: Okay, now I'm assuming the name is pronounced THEO Benedette. 120 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: Is it Benedett? 121 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 3: Correct? 122 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: Okay? Correct? 123 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 4: It is? 124 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: Who is he and why does he play over for Pillow? 125 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: The second round rookie from Boston College. 126 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 3: So THEO Benedette is a former undrafted free agent from 127 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 3: the University of British Columbia. So he's Canadian. His nickname 128 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 3: is the Canadian Eagle. He was somebody who's the last 129 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 3: bast brought in as a college tryout guy. He sticks 130 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 3: and he's on the practice squad all year. He got 131 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 3: inserted into the mix at left tackle right around the 132 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 3: time of the Buffalo preseason game because being incumbent starter, 133 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 3: Braxton Jones was not looking good and Ozzy Trappillo, who 134 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 3: they drafted to play like he's a right tackle. Like 135 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 3: Ozzy's a right tackle. They drafted him thinking, hmm, maybe 136 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 3: we can turn him into a left tackle, because that's 137 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 3: worked a bunch of times in the NFL when coaches 138 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 3: in front off of people get over zealous and think 139 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: that they can be the ones to change a player. 140 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 4: They're like, oh. 141 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 3: Wait, yeah, he's actually a right tackle. And Corona Magazi, 142 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 3: who is a left tackle, just never really cracked the 143 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: depth Charty's kind of third. So Ben Johnson didn't like 144 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 3: what he was seeing, decided to throw theo Bennett into 145 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 3: the mix and he ends up not litting the job then. 146 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 3: But when there was a window to make a change, 147 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 3: which was the byproduct of an early bye week, it 148 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 3: really you know the Raiders game, they make the change 149 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: before halftime. That's why Bennettette was in and Jones was benched. 150 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 3: And I think with Azzi Turpillo right now, there's no 151 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 3: real spot for him outside of the jumbo package when 152 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 3: he's the extra ligneman that does that mean that he's 153 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 3: a myth? No, Darnott Wright's playing great football. He's a 154 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 3: really good right tackle. I don't know where you're going 155 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 3: to play this guy if you're trying to spin this 156 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 3: thing forward, if he's not a left tackle and you 157 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 3: already have a really good right tackle. So it's kind 158 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 3: of a pickle, and it makes me think that maybe 159 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 3: they overshot their luck on this right now, unless they 160 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 3: can develop into a left tackle. But as it currently stands, 161 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 3: that is absolutely not what he is and they've had 162 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 3: no qualms in admitting that. 163 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: CEC Courtney Cronan, ESPN, ESPN dot Com at Courtney R. 164 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: Cronan via Twitter if you'd like to follow and are 165 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: sewings line like nine to noon, just a few to 166 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: close here for CC the Bears. How how are they 167 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: plus fourteen in the take give but they don't sack 168 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: the quarterback a time? 169 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 3: Good play on the back end, I guess opportunistic. I mean, 170 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 3: this pass rush does leave a lot to be desired, 171 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 3: and it has gotten like marginally better. It's not good, though, 172 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 3: Like we're not going to sugarcoat it. Montes Weet's not 173 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 3: He's playing better, but he's not playing at the level 174 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 3: of which you need your star defensive end who makes 175 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 3: twenty four and a half million dollars the playout. That's 176 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 3: just the facts. I think that the coverage aspect here 177 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 3: with a very banged up secondary, has had some really 178 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 3: good moments this year. Nay Sean Wright, who I know 179 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 3: the Viking Vikings fans might remember him from like a 180 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: very brief stint in Minnesota. I think he's really come 181 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 3: into his own because he was battling for a number 182 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 3: two spot all training camp and just so happens now 183 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 3: he's a starter because Dalen Johnson's out in definitely, and 184 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 3: I think that they've had some really good moments in 185 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 3: games where they were able to kind of sack some 186 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 3: of those interceptions up. Kevin Byrd had two, I believe 187 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 3: it was against the Saints. He also had one against 188 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 3: the He's like leading the league right now or leading 189 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 3: the team with four. But you know, there's been some 190 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 3: good moments. I think with what Dennis Allen has been 191 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 3: able to do with the secondary and scheming around. 192 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 2: Some issues. 193 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 3: Too, Like I think that's been pretty helpful for them 194 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 3: in the takeaways department, where you've got Spencer Rattler in 195 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 3: Week seven who you could throw the book at, and 196 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: it wasn't that difficult to get him rattled. Other quarterbacks 197 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 3: a little bit more difficult to do. But you know, 198 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 3: I think in the situation where Joe Flacco threw that 199 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 3: pick at the end of the game and just kind 200 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 3: of like how that whole thing came to be. Obviously 201 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 3: it was wiped off as a pick six because of 202 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 3: the penalty, but there's you know, the pass rush has 203 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 3: to come alive more in Chicago, and that's something that 204 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 3: they've been working at for weeks. They didn't make a 205 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 3: big swing at the deadline because they really don't have 206 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 3: the draft capital they're willing to part with next year 207 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 3: to do so. But the stop gap option that they 208 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 3: have after Dio Dangbo, their starting defensive end, went out, 209 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 3: is hoping that Austin Booker, your fit around pick from 210 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 3: a year ago, can can be a solid replacement for him, 211 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 3: that you can actually get some pressure up front. But 212 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 3: they do blitz a lot, like that's the thing that 213 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 3: like I think you watched for on Sunday. This is 214 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 3: a team that had gotten very creative with using the 215 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 3: nickel blitz and relying on you know, their weak side 216 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 3: linebackers to you know, get after the quarterback too. 217 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: Who needs to give up massive assets for Trey Hendrickson 218 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: When you get CJ. Gardner Johnson off the street, I mean, 219 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: are you kidding me? 220 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 5: With that? 221 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: Three sacks in two games. I mean it's all blitzing right. 222 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And I think he knows this defense. 223 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 3: He was drafted into this defense in New Orleans. I 224 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 3: mean he also got himself traded out of this defense. 225 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 3: It's a very boomer bus proposition. We know what CJ. 226 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 3: Gardner Johnson's history is in the NFL. He's been on 227 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 3: fourteen since the end of last season. It's it's clear 228 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 3: that you know, he's a guy who can be great 229 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 3: for you, but maybe not not for long sort of capacity. 230 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 3: Right now, it's working though for the Bears, and I 231 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 3: think that that's something that they're going to ride because 232 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 3: he broke the game open for them in the third quarter. 233 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 3: It was not looking great. The offense is having a 234 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 3: hard time sustaining drives and then Caleb taps into his 235 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 3: legs once he gets back on the field. That doesn't 236 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 3: happen though. If they don't get that turnover that Gardner Johnson, 237 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 3: you know, the situation where he gets the second sack 238 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 3: of the game, they pin them deep. That doesn't happen 239 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 3: if he doesn't have that play. 240 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 2: All right. 241 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: Lastly, we're going to get deeply into your heart here 242 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: the IU grad and Courtney Cronim your Hoosiers have Wisconsin 243 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: and Purdue left. They're going to go twelve and zero 244 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: in your lifetime. Did you ever think this could happen, 245 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: given it's Hoosier football? 246 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 3: No, of course not. I'd be lying to you to 247 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 3: say that I thought it'd be anything other than a 248 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 3: one year wonder from last year. But when we knew 249 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 3: how we knew how good they were against Illinois, and 250 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 3: that to me was the time where I'm like, no, 251 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 3: this is this team's for real. Did I think they'd 252 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 3: go undefeated? No, But Frianda Mendoza is a better quarterback 253 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 3: than Curtis Rourke, and Curtis Rourke was an excellent college 254 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 3: quarterback for the Hoosiers. I'm thrilled. I'm sure that Barrero 255 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 3: feels the same way. I would love to get his 256 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 3: pulse on all of this too, because we've been sweating 257 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: out some games. I mean that Iowa game was tied 258 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 3: and they ended up winning and it was close. That 259 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 3: Oregon game was a nail bier two and Franda Mendoza 260 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 3: threw a pick six and they were able to recover 261 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 3: from that on the road the Penn State game and 262 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 3: the throw of the year catch of the year combo 263 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 3: between him and Omar Cooper is something that I never 264 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 3: thought would happen, and it's very cool as an alum 265 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 3: to get to live through this season. 266 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: But Barrero calls the Omar Cooper game winning catch last 267 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: game the greatest he's ever seen. He's older than both 268 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: of us. Is it the greatest catch that you've ever seen? 269 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 3: Hard to say it's not. I mean, you love the 270 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 3: one total one foot rule in college football for that 271 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 3: very reason. And I know people gave Gus Johnson a 272 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 3: lot of flak for his touchdown call and losing his voice, 273 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 3: but I think that that perfectly encapsulated the moment of 274 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 3: the absurdity of that play, the probability of it working 275 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 3: and happening. He's getting drilled as he's throwing the ball 276 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 3: by two defenders. They're in the red zone. He just 277 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 3: they get the ball back, get under like a minute 278 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 3: to go. When he goes eighty seven yards down the 279 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 3: field and then ends with that on a day where 280 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 3: his number one receivers out due to injury, we find 281 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 3: that out like thirty minutes before kickoffs. That was I mean, 282 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 3: that's just stuff. Was like legend and he's I don't 283 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 3: I know that we have a couple more games to play. 284 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 3: I get it. The Heisman Trophy is going to Bloomington 285 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 3: this year. You cannot tell me otherwise. 286 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: The best. 287 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: I'll look forward to seeing you this weekend, especially Sunday. 288 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: Thanks Courtney, Thanks the ACA Sunday yep se. 289 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: Of Courtney CRONI, ESPNESPN, dot com. I you grad at 290 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: Courtney rc Cronan via x Russo Radio around the corner. 291 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 2: But first the cash thingy. 292 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 6: The fan along with two men in the junk truck 293 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 6: want to give you a shot at some bonus bucks 294 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 6: with the National Cash Contest. 295 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: Go to KFA and dot com. 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Colin Grafts stick handle past Gustison, 302 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 5: talk Tooba backhander, and the Sharks first the second time 303 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 5: in the season, series, winning overtime at Grand Casino Arena. 304 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: Russo Radio at Russo Hockey via X, Michael Russo covers 305 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: the rights about the Minnesota Wild, the rivalry series, the 306 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: Stanley Top. He follows tramp trampled by Turtles, uh to 307 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: Red Rock Shows and Morrison Colorado and writes about that 308 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: and he joins us Now, Michael, good morning, it was 309 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: an OT loss to the Sharks, as a Joe, just 310 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: shared second OT lost to a team in the Wild 311 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: basically beat every time since the pandemic. 312 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 2: Uh, what did you think of the game last night? 313 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 2: And good morning? 314 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 4: Well, I mean they just couldn't score, you know, And 315 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 4: you know, when you actually look at the analytics, I 316 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 4: think it's really easy to see why there are guys 317 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 4: that aren't necessarily pure goal scorers. Were the ones that 318 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 4: were driving the bus yesterday. Their their third and fourth lines, 319 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 4: and those guys, you know, I mean, they leave a 320 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 4: lot of pucks on the ice. We've seen it all 321 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 4: season long, and last night the Rossie line just got 322 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 4: cratered and and that's really been the case the last 323 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 4: couple of games. So you know, those are the guys 324 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 4: who grow pristav Rossi that are the pure scorers, second line, 325 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 4: probably lest some some goals on the ice bowld the 326 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 4: obviously scored is the power play goal. But even strength, 327 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 4: they've been you know, really you know, they've been coming 328 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 4: along here in recent weeks, but they have been, you know, 329 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 4: really mediocre in that area and expected goals this year 330 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 4: are are really been a you know, an area where 331 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 4: they they've really struggled. And so I just think that 332 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 4: it's a disappointing loss and it's a time where they 333 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 4: can't afford to continually give extra points to their opponents. 334 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 4: I mean, these teams are going to be you know, 335 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 4: we saw it last year where the Wild made the 336 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 4: playoffs on a miracle and won and made the playoffs 337 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 4: on a tie breaker, and to blow as many games 338 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 4: as they had this year they've lost. They're one in 339 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 4: four and actual overtimes in five of their six games 340 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 4: that have gone past regulation they've blown leads in and 341 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 4: four of those six are against Western Conference opponents. And 342 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 4: it's just it's for a team that has you know 343 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 4: a lot of really good players that should be much 344 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 4: better in overtime. It's it's concerning to me that the 345 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 4: last couple of years they haven't been a great overtime team. 346 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: In in regulation for the loan goal, the power play piece, uh, 347 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: the the Zuparello patients play then passed a Baldy for 348 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: that power play goal. 349 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 2: I mean that that that was just fantastic, wasn't it. 350 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, he teed it up on a platter, and that's 351 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 4: what Zukarella does and we saw him, you know, do 352 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 4: the same thing in his first game in New York. 353 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 4: And I think he'll get better as the game as 354 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 4: as you know, he gets more into the line I 355 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 4: mean to to come into the you know, at his age, 356 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 4: to come into the lineup a month and a half 357 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 4: into the season after not having a training camp, it 358 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 4: obviously is takes time to catch up. And I think 359 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 4: he's going to do that more and more. 360 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 5: You know. 361 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 4: I know that he felt like, just judging by you know, 362 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 4: the replays yesterday, he felt that he deserved to get 363 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 4: a penalty or you know, draw a penalty in overtime, 364 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 4: but the puck was taken away from him and next thing, 365 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 4: you know they lost, but he's got this this ability 366 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 4: to just make incredible scene passes and and when he 367 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 4: puts the puck in areas like that, especially on given goes. 368 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 4: You know, the odds of you score a goal if 369 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 4: you hit the net are really good because you're getting 370 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 4: the goalie to slide side to side, and we saw 371 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 4: that there with the Boldie goal. 372 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 2: So with the with the Colin Graft game winner. 373 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: We heard coach Hines after the game said, quote, doesn't 374 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: really matter what I think about the play end quote 375 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: by the way, hinse joins nine to noon tomorrow, nine 376 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: to twenty. And to my untrained die, it looked like 377 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: Zuki was slow to get back and didn't fluster wrapping up. 378 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 2: Is that a fair assessment? 379 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I have to look at it closer. I didn't 380 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 4: think it was a penalty. I think he was knocked 381 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 4: off the pocket. Okay, you know, if there was any 382 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:41,239 Speaker 4: penalty in there, I think that. You know, if there 383 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 4: was any penalty, there was probably the brodein behind the 384 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 4: net at one point that they let go, and that 385 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 4: one I think was frustrating. Maybe that's also what the 386 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 4: wild were upset about at the end of the game. 387 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 4: But I think that, you know, I think John realizes 388 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 4: that you're not getting a call there, and you're right, 389 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 4: I mean Zuki was slow to get back. I think 390 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 4: that Brodein got caught in between. He challenges Celebrini there. 391 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 4: You know, Celebrini is going to win that race to 392 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 4: the park and he's just going to chip it into 393 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 4: open space, kind of like Ericson acted for the caprice 394 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 4: of empty Nekel the game before against Calgary. He's going 395 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 4: to chip it into open space and Graft is going 396 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 4: to get a breakaway there and whether he converts or 397 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 4: he converts, but that's a tough play for Brodein and 398 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 4: what you need is somebody coming hard back. And obviously 399 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 4: he didn't. He didn't catch up there. And Celebrini, I mean, 400 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 4: that's what he does so special, right, I mean, he 401 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 4: didn't have a shot in the game, and yet he 402 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 4: sets up two goals with you know, perfect plays. And 403 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 4: we saw the game before that a couple of weeks 404 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 4: ago the same thing. He's not on the ice for 405 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 4: all of overtime, comes on for seven seconds and wins 406 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 4: the game. So he's going to be a special player 407 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 4: and somebody the wild they're gonna have to compete against 408 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 4: for eons. 409 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: Maclen Celebrini doesn't turn twenty until June. So how close 410 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: is he to being considered top ten stock in the league. 411 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 4: Well, I think he's there now. I think he's going 412 00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 4: to be on the Olympic team for Canada. He's leading 413 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 4: league in points. He's just a special, special player. This 414 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 4: is somebody that and we are seeing a changing of 415 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 4: the guard in the NHL. And you look at the 416 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 4: top of the scoring right now, and you have guys 417 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 4: like Leo Carlson, who the Wild are going to see 418 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 4: Saturday night. You have Connor Bodard who's had a magnificent 419 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 4: start to the season for Chicago, who's been one of 420 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 4: the biggest surprises in the league. And then you have Maclin. 421 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 4: But Maclin, you know, I sat down with a player, 422 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 4: you know, a captain in Milan there for the NHL 423 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 4: Media Tour, and this is a captain in the league, 424 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 4: and he said told me that he's a crossbreed between 425 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 4: Patrice Bergeron and Sydney Crosby. And you see it all 426 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 4: the time with him. He's got this inate ability to 427 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 4: one win draws, but he just competes like few other 428 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 4: kids in the league. I remember being so impressed with 429 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 4: him last year. There was a play in San Jose 430 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 4: where he goes into the corner with Marcus Felino and 431 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 4: comes out with the puck. And not a lot of 432 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 4: eighteen year olds would have the bravery and the courage 433 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 4: to go into a corner with a guy like Felino 434 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 4: and then come out with the puck. You can see 435 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,479 Speaker 4: the respect that everybody in this league had for him. 436 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 4: And and again I did that media that that NHL 437 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 4: player poll, both in the Milan media tour that I 438 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 4: covered and the Vegas one. It was an anonymous one 439 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 4: and he absolutely lapped the competition as the next face 440 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 4: in the National Hockey League. And so he's just a special, 441 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 4: special player in San Jose. That's that was the They 442 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 4: certainly got the benefit of getting him and being one 443 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 4: of the worst teams in the league a couple of 444 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 4: years ago to be able to draft him. 445 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: Russo Radio. 446 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: So with the Wild they've lost six of the last 447 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: eight Bus starts. 448 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 2: Gus Bus, What what do you think of that? 449 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean last night, I don't blame him for 450 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 4: really anything, but you're right, I mean he has not 451 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 4: been nearly as good the team hasn't been great in 452 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 4: front of him, but but he's got to stop punks 453 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 4: and there have been you know, there was there was 454 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 4: a stretch of games there of eight or nine games 455 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 4: where the Wild had the second best goalie on the 456 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 4: ice for all about one of them, and so he's 457 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 4: got to be better. Valstat you know, he's coming off 458 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 4: a couple of really good starts in a row, including 459 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 4: a shoutout against Calgary obviously was really good on Long Island, 460 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,719 Speaker 4: and the Wild have gotten points at least in all 461 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 4: five of his starts. It doesn't mean that he's been 462 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 4: great really up until the first three games. He wasn't 463 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 4: very good. The last game against San Jose, he was 464 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 4: definitely the second best goalie on the on the ice 465 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 4: and gave up six that game. But you know, we're 466 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 4: coming to that point now where the Wild are going. 467 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 4: They definitely need Gustison to play better because they're gonna, 468 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 4: you know, otherwise it's going to start to give them 469 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 4: pause and they're going to start playing fallstat more. I 470 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 4: don't necessarily think that's a bad thing, but they need 471 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 4: better goaltending without a doubt from gustuson. 472 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: Hey, Michael, let me get outside of the Covenant. For 473 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: a second look at looking at X and at Russo 474 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: Hockey and your bio at States X Isles, die Hard 475 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: Isles being the Islanders. 476 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 2: Well, what was that when when you were that die Hard? 477 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: Was that during the Trodier Pot band Bossy days with 478 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: Billy Smith between the pipes? 479 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 4: Yep, it was. And you know, I was really young 480 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 4: at that time. I was what six, seven, eight and 481 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 4: nine when they won their their cups, But it obviously 482 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 4: had a huge impression on my life. I was a 483 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 4: massive Islanders fan. I used to go to this day 484 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 4: camp actually and sort of preschool that bordered in Woodbury, 485 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 4: New York that bordered essentially this community where all the 486 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 4: Islanders lived, and my friends and I used to actually 487 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 4: sneak out of our camp and just watch them come 488 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 4: home from training camp and things like that. And so 489 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 4: it's you know, that definitely was the impression that that 490 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 4: probably got me to be a hockey writer. The other 491 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 4: thing I remember is when I used to you know, 492 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 4: back and then I remember having a Pathmark shopping cart 493 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 4: and I used to deliver news days at age like 494 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 4: twelve years old and come from school and they'd be 495 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 4: on my driveway and I'd read all the Islanders coverage, 496 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 4: and you know, you look back now and you wonder 497 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 4: if that's kind of what really also ingrained itself into me. 498 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 4: So you know, but I say X diehard too, because 499 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 4: you know, I started I was sports writers starting at 500 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 4: age like fourteen fifteen. I really grew up not being 501 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 4: a fan of anything. You you lose your fandom when 502 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 4: you're a sports writer. So I am truly not a 503 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 4: fan of really any team in any sport. Yeah, I 504 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 4: haven't been. And sometimes I think that really works out 505 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 4: in my favor because I look at some sometimes the 506 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 4: fanaticism that I see on Twitter with people just being 507 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 4: so upset at their teams, and I'm like, I've never 508 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 4: experienced that, you know, so now, like to me, it's 509 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 4: actually a benefit, Like I could watch the World Series 510 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 4: and be super happy no matter if the Blue Jays 511 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 4: win or the Dodgers win, but other people are just 512 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 4: losing their minds, and so you know, I've just never 513 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 4: I just I just lost all of that. I grew 514 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 4: up a diehard Expos fan, and really, you know, obviously 515 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 4: they moved to Washington, but you know, I became a 516 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 4: sports writer and it just kind of lost that fandom, 517 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 4: So it is bizarre that I really don't. I'm not 518 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 4: a fan of any team. 519 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: Does does Radio Joe ever become insufferable with his Eagles? 520 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 4: No, I wouldn't say insufferable. He actually keeps it really tame, 521 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 4: at least around me. 522 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 2: He's a pro. 523 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 4: But we know, I know the last year. 524 00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 1: Now. 525 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 4: The one thing I will say is I say nice 526 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 4: things about the Giants and Mets of times because my 527 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 4: brother is a diehard Giants and Mets fan. And at 528 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 4: one point last season or two seasons, Joe O'Donnell came 529 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 4: up to me with this just this like angry looking face, 530 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 4: and he looks at me, he goes, are you a 531 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 4: Giants fan? And that was the first time where I 532 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 4: saw like like he like legit was like offended that 533 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 4: I was like tweeting nice things about about one of 534 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 4: the Eagle's biggest rivals. 535 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: Uh it it seemed it seemed like reading the stories 536 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: of the Athletic and the Athletic Dot Com. Uh it 537 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: seemed like you really enjoyed Cleveland and Buffalo and the 538 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: rivalry series. 539 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 4: I absolutely did you know. I went in there. I 540 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 4: went in there with trepidation, like I I you know, 541 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 4: I really like, I'll be honest, I get tunnel vision. 542 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 4: I just cover the National Hockey League, and I you know, 543 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 4: even it's it's sad, you know, with the frost year, 544 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 4: I just don't pay as much attention other than saying 545 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 4: hi to the players because they they their their locker 546 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 4: room is literally right next to the ice at tree 547 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 4: or rink, and so that's really. 548 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: What I know. 549 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 4: And and so I went in really nervous, uh And 550 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 4: and this was why it was such a good idea 551 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 4: for me to cover both these games and the two 552 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 4: games in Edmonton next month, because I don't want to 553 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 4: just go to the Olympics and and basically wright just 554 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 4: game stories that with no substance. I want to know 555 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 4: everything about the players and the athletes that I'm covering. 556 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 4: And so it was really great to get to know them. 557 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 4: I felt like a scout in a lot of ways. 558 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 4: And you know, some of these some of these girls 559 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 4: are just unbelievable hockey players. You look at Abby Murphy 560 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 4: and Taylor Heizi and Layla Edwards and and this this 561 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 4: Caroline Harvey that plays at Wisconsin is just like she's 562 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 4: as good as skater as I've ever seen. In my life. 563 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 4: Hillary Knight obviously we all know. So I had. I 564 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 4: had a blast. I felt like I learned a lot. 565 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 4: It was fun writing the stories with Haley Salvianan, who 566 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 4: I essentially shadowed, are women's hockey writer at the Athletic. 567 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 4: And so I'm really looking forward actually next month. And 568 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 4: so I did. I had a blast. Plus it was 569 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 4: really my first time spending any time in Cleveland and 570 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 4: what a great at an incredible meal at this restaurant 571 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 4: called the Marble Room. I went to the Rock and 572 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 4: Roll Hall of Fame and uh, you know, and also 573 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 4: their coach John Rablueski, I've gotten to know really well 574 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 4: over the years just because he's coached. He has his 575 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 4: fingerprints both on the men and women's Olympic teams because 576 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 4: he coached so many the guys in the Ann Arbor 577 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 4: program for a while. He actually got to start working 578 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 4: for John Hines's staff for the national team program. And 579 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 4: you know, coach the Hughes brothers and Matt Boldie and 580 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 4: and and the Chuck brothers and players like that. So 581 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 4: you know, I'm really looking forward actually in Edmonton next 582 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 4: down sitting down with him next month, and sitting down 583 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 4: with him and doing a Q and A with him, 584 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 4: but also doing a big feature on him because he's 585 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 4: he's a fascinating coach. 586 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: What what'd you think of Taylor Hesie's game? What impresses? 587 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 4: I mean, she's just unreal. First of all, she's got wheels, 588 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 4: she's got incredible vision. She she could create empty net 589 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 4: goals essentially with her scene passes. But she also has 590 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 4: a shot that you have to respect. And we saw 591 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 4: that play that she made for scammer Or in her 592 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 4: hometown and Buffalo, just a selfless, selfless act by Taylor. 593 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 4: She fakes the shot and drops it to the home, 594 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 4: to the to the you know, western New York native 595 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 4: for a goal in front of all her family and 596 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 4: friends and girls that she coaches and all that stuff. 597 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 4: So so she's also a selfless player. So we know that, 598 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 4: I mean we've seen her obviously at the U and 599 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 4: and and we know that that, uh, you know with 600 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 4: the Frost that she's an absolute superstar. But seeing her 601 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 4: on the international stage in person, I think she is 602 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 4: going to have an unbelievable Olympics. And the other girl 603 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 4: that I just I was incredibly impressed with is Abby Murphy. 604 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 4: Like you know, you look at her and you think 605 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 4: of her as almost like a Brad mar shand Matthew 606 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 4: could Chuck type because she has she does a lot 607 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 4: of antics on the ice to really, you know, get 608 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 4: under the skin of opponents. But my god, do you 609 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 4: have to respect her speed or shot? She's got an 610 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 4: elite shot, and uh, she's just she really is like 611 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 4: a Matthew could Chuck or a bradburg Marchand because she's 612 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 4: a complete player, she's just not a you know, quote 613 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 4: unquote shift disturber. You know, she is somebody that is 614 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 4: a superstar as well. So you know, it's gonna be 615 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 4: really interesting in the PWHL draft coming up next year, 616 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 4: and just who goes number one overall because as much 617 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 4: as every coach finds Abby Murphy to be a thorn 618 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 4: on the side, I think she is going to be 619 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 4: a top top draft pick. 620 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 2: Dude. Last one. 621 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: Do you find these USA ladies night and day better 622 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: than their Canadian counterparts? 623 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 4: You know, it's hard to say that. Certainly there they 624 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 4: were like like, you know, I left there and I 625 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 4: remember saying to people like, how does this team not 626 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 4: win gold at the Olympics. But the one thing I'm 627 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 4: trying to remember too, is we're talking one apparently historically 628 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 4: at these rivalry series, you know, the Canadians get off 629 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 4: to really tough starts. They did leave you know, two 630 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 4: or three of their top players at home, so they 631 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 4: weren't part of this rivalry series and they should be 632 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 4: in Edmonton. But I look at the talent that they have. 633 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 4: I mean, you look at the two power play is 634 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 4: that the United States have. I mean their number two 635 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 4: unit technically has Icy on it and Murphy on it, 636 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 4: and then they have go with this all veteran number 637 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 4: one unit and so like talk about a luxury of 638 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 4: riches on the power play. So I personally like after 639 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 4: watching those two games and seeing you know, obviously the 640 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 4: second game, even though it was a six to one outcome, 641 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 4: that was a one goal game going into the third period, 642 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 4: but the way that they I thought the United States 643 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 4: dominated Canada in both games. I definitely think that they're 644 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 4: the favorite going into Milan. But I'm also well understandingstanding 645 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 4: that they left some girls at home, but these are 646 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 4: the pooling on the ice, and Pooling is allegedly the 647 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 4: best you know, women's hockey player out there right now. 648 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 4: But I think, you know, people like Abby Murphy and 649 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 4: Taylor Heiseie have something to say about that as well. 650 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 2: I appreciate you. My brother talks, so yeah, see take care, 651 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: see you by Brusso Radio. 652 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 6: News De Nord Brought to you by the Casino at 653 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 6: Canterbury Parkcanterburypark dot com. 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So family, truckster, mother, father, 671 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 6: sons and daughters, everybody pile in, go down to Shakapee, 672 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 6: grab the tree, or maybe go and play some cards 673 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 6: and then grab the tree. 674 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 2: It's up to you. But Black Friday. 675 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 6: Check it out Kenterbury Park dot com beautiful for all 676 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 6: the event details. The Minnesota Timberwolves PA are off until 677 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 6: they're on the chill until Friday. I believe they're hosting Sacramento. Yeah, 678 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 6: and Friday night. The Wolves already handled Sacramento out west. 679 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 2: You dig that? 680 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 6: No Kings, Indeed, they're three and eight in their ratty. 681 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 6: And I'm seeing rumors courtesy of NBA Central and those 682 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 6: that follow the Sacramento Kings rumors of a firesale rebuild 683 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 6: PA that includes Zach Levine, that includes DeMar derozen O 684 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 6: like that name. It also includes Parker Fox's favorite player, 685 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 6: demonte Sabonis. 686 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 2: If it includes Malik Monk, I'm in how good would 687 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 2: that be? 688 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? 689 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: Like Monk off the bench, A lot of teams could 690 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: use Malik Monk. I think the Wolves really good and 691 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: I think the Wolves are one of them. 692 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 6: It's interesting though, just ten to eleven games in the year, 693 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 6: whether it was Nico Harrison being hired as general manager 694 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 6: how about that, by the way, And I don't remember 695 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 6: if was he GM because at one point, as we're 696 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 6: watching Luca wearing a different kind of purple and gold 697 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 6: west for the Lakers, at one point they had a 698 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 6: very young Luca and a Jalen Brunson, oh wow, on 699 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 6: the same team, if. 700 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 2: You have to remember that. 701 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 6: And at one point they decided not to pay him. 702 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 6: I don't know what the circumstances around that were. I 703 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 6: think it was like it was like a four year 704 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 6: let's call it, like an eighty ninety ish kind of 705 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 6: you know, just like a Jaden McDaniels type extension, and 706 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 6: they said no. And now Jalen Brunson is making memories 707 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 6: for the Knicks. They're waiting for Kyrie Irving to return 708 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 6: from the knee, and now rumors are insisting that Anthony 709 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 6: Davis is potentially available. 710 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 2: So we're just eleven games in the thunder Never Lose. 711 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 6: It appears the GM in Dallas finally sadly having to 712 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 6: own up for one of the tough for trades, combined 713 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 6: with a tough start for the MAVs and the three. 714 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 2: Warriors got beat so badly last night. 715 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: After the game, Raymond Green said that we have people 716 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,760 Speaker 1: on the team who are not giving full effort. 717 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 2: So, I mean, that got nasty last night and we're 718 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 2: less than a month into the season. 719 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 6: Pa, It's crazy how quickly things can change in this 720 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 6: particular game in the association. When you try to play 721 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 6: fantasy hoops the best you can and you picture big 722 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 6: threes or at least dynamic duos, you put rosters together 723 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 6: and people are looking at Okay, see like, yeah, we 724 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,760 Speaker 6: don't got it. I guess we're just going to rebuild 725 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 6: the entire organization. Yea, Dallas and Sacramento in turmoil right now. 726 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: Well with Nico Harrison, the general manager for the MAVs 727 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: former general manager, just think about the last within a 728 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: year contextually whatever the months are, eight, nine, ten to eleven. Yeah, 729 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: since the Luca move from the move, So what has 730 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: he had to endure? Well, it starts where it got 731 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: so loud, so gnarly, so mean and so nasty. He 732 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: couldn't even sit in his seat at Mavericks home games. Okay, 733 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 1: they had to move him and put him in a swite. 734 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 6: From a human perspective, have you ever seen on social 735 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 6: and I mean it's kind of sad where he's kind 736 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 6: of like peeking his head out of the tunnel in 737 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 6: the arena. 738 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 2: He can't even go out there. It was the off season. 739 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 1: He was in Miami, maybe with his wife, but he 740 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: was in Miami at a restaurant, and two MAVs fans 741 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,240 Speaker 1: not even wearing game warn Michael Finley's it's an open 742 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,919 Speaker 1: air Miami bit that you can find everywhere. Oh yeah, 743 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: cussed at him in Miami. Caught a stray in the 744 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: off season. Come on, Okay, so it was bad. So 745 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 1: now you start the season with him and what a 746 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: MAVs fans and Nico Harrison have to watch Luca in 747 00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: shape and he's gonna stay in shape all year and 748 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: he's probably gonna win the he might win the MVP. 749 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 2: He might, So that's what they have to see. What happened. 750 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 2: He's skinny, and he's staying skinny, and he's. 751 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: Spry, and I'm getting cuss dat outside of the Clevelander 752 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 1: and I can't even sit in my seat at home 753 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: games and I gotta move. 754 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 2: What happens in the Cleveland hey charge, so that I 755 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 2: mean that too. 756 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: Whom much is give him much as expected? And and 757 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: he swung, he swung and and apparently he missed. Okay, 758 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: I'm not I can't completely say he missed until I 759 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 1: see what Cooper flag does. I get Kyrie irving out there. 760 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 2: But that's the that's the roller coaster is. 761 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: They can't have their general manager at home games getting 762 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: cuss dats. 763 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 3: No, they can't. 764 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 6: It's it's not it's that that's that's not acceptable. It 765 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 6: just wouldn't work. There was also some bit I think 766 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 6: like a longtime season ticket holder. Uh, they have like 767 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 6: third row seats behind the owner owner. I think it's 768 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 6: Dumont or something. 769 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 2: I guess. The kid like flipped him off off. 770 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 6: So then his dad got in touch and he's like, you, 771 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,240 Speaker 6: you're never going to another MAVs game until you apologize 772 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 6: to the owner. So there's actually I can't hear any 773 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 6: more of this. There's actually a video on social of 774 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,280 Speaker 6: the kid. I can't hear any more of this wearing 775 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 6: a Luca jersey, sitting down court side like pregame talking 776 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 6: to the owner. 777 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,959 Speaker 2: It's insane. But they got the first pick. 778 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 6: That was and you remember the fixes in moment, kind 779 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 6: of like somebody's throwing some money to Deloitte and two 780 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 6: share because there's no chance the MAVs after trading Luca 781 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 6: would get the first pick. They get it, they get 782 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 6: flag and the thing is still as tough to go 783 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 6: as it is. I mean, wow, what a melodrama on 784 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 6: Big d Yeah, this in no way is too as 785 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,720 Speaker 6: the bonus might be available. 786 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,800 Speaker 1: Out West, myself or Nordo sound perfect in our worlds. 787 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,760 Speaker 1: Only one in the history of the world is perfect, 788 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: and it's not us. Yes, So we're looking and I'm 789 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: looking at it like this. Why I said I can't 790 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: hear this is when it comes to when it comes 791 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: to large scale humanity. There's this text machine over there 792 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: called the six four six eight six, right, Some of 793 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: it you look at and you're like, this isn't a 794 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: bit wow. There actually are minds and hearts that get 795 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: to this conclusion. Yes, and then you attempt to go 796 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 1: to church, you attempt to go to Burnsville, you attempt 797 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: to go to Egan or whatever, and you hit that 798 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: zipper merge, which is gone. 799 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 2: The zipper merge is gone. Thank you father. 800 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,280 Speaker 1: You hit that zipper merge. On thirteen thirty five South, 801 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: then thirty five North leaks into it, and that's a humanity. 802 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 2: Check right there. It is just with the you know, 803 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 2: just what people feel is theirs. 804 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: And why so closing your eyes while you drive a 805 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 1: zipper Merge is not preferred. But nevertheless, I can't say 806 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: it hasn't happened. And then you just hear everything you 807 00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 1: just heard about Mavericks fans. I'm just not being able 808 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: to restrain themselves enough. Honestly, there is nothing you can 809 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: do to my favorite pro sports team, my favorite distraction. 810 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,800 Speaker 1: Whatever it is that's gonna cause me or Nordo to 811 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: walk downstairs seven rows from the court and tell the 812 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: general manager to have off. There is I mean, there's 813 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: nothing that can happen that's trying to trigger that. It 814 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,800 Speaker 1: happens a lot. 815 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 2: It does. 816 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 1: Why because in twenty twenty five, dogs set their dogs 817 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,959 Speaker 1: up with the with the camera rolling in a place 818 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: nobody sees it, that's right. So it's staged, and they 819 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: know it's gonna get to social media, and they know 820 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna do the viral bit. They want 821 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: some and that's their lives. That's so it's just a 822 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: little bit of a humanity check there. 823 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 2: Thank you? I mean yeah, I mean I you say never, 824 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 2: I'm with you, yes never. 825 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 6: On wise, at forty years old, there there is truly 826 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 6: nothing that my favorite team could do to compel me 827 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 6: to do such things. But there's a part of twenty 828 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 6: two year old Nordo where if like Anthony Edwards goes 829 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 6: it like matist Thaibol comes back like that. 830 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: Well, now you're making me think about when I went 831 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: to games at a young age. Like the craziest thing 832 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: I did well I ran on the court when Michael 833 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: Jordan won his first NBA championship at the Fabulous Forum. Yeah, 834 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: but that's totally valid. And I wasn't a Lakers fan. 835 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 1: I was a Celtics fan. And and somebody tied into 836 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:35,359 Speaker 1: horse owner and actor Dick Van Patten had one extra seat. 837 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 1: They gave it to me when I was working at 838 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: Hollywood Park. So I went, not a Lakers fan, not 839 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: a Bulls fan, high five to Horace Grant, tried to 840 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: get to MJ couldn't get to him. So that was rubelik, 841 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,800 Speaker 1: But it wasn't not out there, you know, telling telling 842 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 1: Scottie Pippeney looks like Joe cammill or like you're nothing 843 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 1: without Jordan. So I just I don't envision there's anything 844 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 1: that possibly could happen, you know what I mean? 845 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 6: Well, now you got me. I mean the old Joe Cammell. 846 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 6: He does kind of look like him, doesn't he? Hang 847 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 6: on here, let's move on. News Denard brought to you 848 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 6: by Canterbury. What else do I got for you? We 849 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 6: hit on the Wild with Russo last segment. Come on, step, 850 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 6: I'm sorry I lost, I lost my train of thought. No, 851 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,359 Speaker 6: that's fine, Noon to three on it. I was looking 852 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 6: at this unreal geez, holy cow, the uh this this reason. 853 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 6: I'm not compensated at all by unreal. So everything I 854 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,720 Speaker 6: buy for myself or my family for Christmas and stuff 855 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 6: is all straight from the Allen Coffer. But this newest, 856 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 6: this newest Vikings dropped thing, this thing is badass. Holy cow, 857 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 6: that happened this morning, I think. So it's sweet. 858 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like drop three. It's a it's a hoodie 859 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 2: that is just an illuminating purple logo. It's just really cool. Anyway. No, 860 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 2: it's fine. I mean, you're you're looking at unreal. 861 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,879 Speaker 6: I'm looking at Scottie Pippen and Joe Cammel pictures side 862 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:55,359 Speaker 6: by side. 863 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: You're looking at me, who's trying to both to trying 864 00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: to get us both onreal comps. 865 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 6: Here is correct this new thing, so that so that 866 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 6: the con can get a sweatshirt wild Please beat the Sharks, 867 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 6: you o t it's ridiculous. Next up the Ducks get 868 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 6: a win. Please, That's all I ask. Brian Dable fired 869 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:14,720 Speaker 6: from the Giants. 870 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 2: We know that news. 871 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 6: Jamis Winston starting for the Giants versus the Pack on Sunday. 872 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 6: Please throw it to your team more than the other. 873 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 2: Team, Jamis. I saw this as Sante Samuel. 874 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 6: He had that workout last week and he was asked 875 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 6: about Brian Flores was asked about a Sante Samuel junior, 876 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 6: the final fusion surgery and such, but he had to 877 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 6: work out there. 878 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 2: What do you think of your cornerback, dep. 879 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 4: I mean I feel good. 880 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 7: I think you know you know Murph Zay. I think 881 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 7: Fabians you will come up and played well. I've had 882 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 7: the injury to Okudah, but I think overall you know 883 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 7: that that group's no no playing well. I have certainly 884 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 7: some plays that you know, not just for that group 885 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 7: of for really everyone. You know we can improve on 886 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 7: and the places we wish we had back. But I 887 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 7: think overall, you know, they've they've been solidly across the board, 888 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 7: but you know all always trying to get better each 889 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 7: one of those guys. 890 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:15,919 Speaker 4: So I'm not like our group. 891 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:17,800 Speaker 2: I gotta be honest, mister Flores. 892 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 6: He didn't inspire a ton of confidence in me as 893 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 6: you answered that question, but I appreciate the sentiment and 894 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 6: the spirit of it the reason I played that audio. 895 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 6: He feels confident about the cornerback depth. Sante Samuel Junior 896 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 6: has signed with the Steelers practice squad. So for those 897 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 6: wondering what's up with the Sante Samuel, he has decided 898 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 6: to join the folks in Pittsburgh and won't be an 899 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 6: option any longer. 900 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 2: To the Purple, what's up with the Chicago Bears? 901 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: Their Their coach Ben Johnson triggered Yours Truly and nine 902 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: to Noon to employ Lavelle Neil the Third, the resident 903 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,799 Speaker 1: Bears fan for some beating the around the corner off 904 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: a quote he recently had about matchup number two against 905 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings, and the head coach. 906 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 2: Said this, and I will have my vengeance in this 907 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 2: life for the next Beating dub AARs is next.