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Speaker 2: Hi, Hello, welcome in. It's a Friday edition of Cincy

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Speaker 2: three sixty right here on the home of the Bengals,

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty. Happy to be here with you. As

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Speaker 2: of now, the sun is actually shining. Supposed to get

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Speaker 2: Excited to be with you, know Tony today. Tony hopefully

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Speaker 2: back on Monday. But in the meantime, it is you

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Speaker 2: and me Sea, My guy Drew Wester. Heidi has stepped

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Speaker 2: a long day for me personally. I've got this twelve

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Speaker 2: to nine tonight on seven hundred WLWN for Lance McAllister.

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Speaker 2: So a lot of talking, a lot of things to do,

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Speaker 2: a lot of things to discuss. It is obviously a

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Speaker 2: huge college basketball weekend in the area. Tonight the Miami

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Speaker 2: RedHawks go for a perfect regular season. The students at

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Speaker 2: Ohio University began spring break I believe today or yesterday,

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Speaker 2: and so many of them are sticking around for tonight,

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Speaker 2: and I'm sure they have been pregaming tonight's nine pm

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Speaker 2: tip off since last night. It will be a racous

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Speaker 2: crowd in Athens for Miami in Ohio, the Battle of

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Speaker 2: perfection on the line tonight. Obviously big games for UC

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Speaker 2: the Flyers? Got Flyers play tonight? Don't they Flyers play tonight?

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Speaker 3: You see, fans are gonna want to tune in and

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Speaker 3: root for the Flyers because they play VCU ahead of

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Speaker 3: you see on many tournament projections. It is time for

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Speaker 3: another as the Flyers go up against one of their

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Speaker 2: It's like that the meme of the the Bloods and

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Speaker 2: it's incredible, so obviously a big week into college basketball.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about all of that as the show goes along.

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Speaker 2: We have our typical Friday guest. One o'clock, Charlie Goldsmith

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Speaker 2: is going to join me. I have a list of

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Speaker 2: list of questions Charlie about Hunter Green. At two o'clock,

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Speaker 2: Tom Glad, the voice of FC Cincinnati, is gonna join

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Speaker 2: us big one for the Orange and Blue. They are

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Speaker 2: on Sunday Night Soccer this weekend, which is the spotlight game.

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Speaker 2: The epicenter of the MLS universe, will be at TQL

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Speaker 2: Stadium Sunday night when FC Cincinnati takes on Toronto. It

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Speaker 2: is Evander Bobblehead Night. Looks like Evander will be able

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Speaker 2: that hamstring injury. For FC Cincinnati, Chad Brindle is in

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Speaker 2: for Moe this afternoon. We'll talk to him for quick

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Speaker 2: Hits as well. But to me, the story continues to

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Speaker 2: Earlier today, the Reds announced a handful of transactions. They

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Speaker 2: infielder Edwin Arroyo, right hander Jose Franco, and outfielder Hector Rodriguez. Additionally,

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Speaker 2: You know, I was thinking a little bit last night

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Speaker 2: And I'm just curious what you think of that. Five one, three, seven,

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Speaker 2: There's data to suggest you probably shouldn't. But I also

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Speaker 2: with a very, very high ceiling. It's just can you

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Speaker 2: find interesting. Other headlines from across the world of sports,

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Speaker 2: at the age of eighty nine. Bob Harlan has one

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Speaker 2: I had a mental block there. Jason Tatum, ten months

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Speaker 2: And there was also this quote that I have to

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Speaker 2: Salary caps certainly don't guarantee competitive balance. You're very much

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Speaker 3: think the Guardians have gone far enough. They've done what

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Speaker 3: they've done well. Their ownership has spent less than the

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Speaker 3: Reds have. Sure, and you know they went to the

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Speaker 3: old thing every year. You know, the Guardians make the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: To that next step.

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Speaker 3: So, you know, what the guy is saying is true,

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Speaker 3: You're probably better off because you know you're gonna you

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Speaker 3: see more sustained success from the Cleveland Guardians than the

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, just because you have a salary

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Speaker 4: Breaking that doll.

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Speaker 10: You have your.

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Speaker 9: Enough, one of them will hit. Sometimes it takes time

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Speaker 8: But here's where it all ties together. If they could

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Speaker 9: We know how it goes, there's always some injuries. S Green,

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Speaker 8: So that you know, I'm just very optimistic. What else

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear you, Ian, thank you for the phone call.

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Speaker 2: and they'll be competitive, it is always kind of hanging

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Speaker 2: in the back of your head that, well, the Dodgers

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Speaker 2: are still here, or the Mets still spend a bunch

435
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Speaker 2: of money, the Phillies have redone their I mean, they're

436
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Speaker 2: still really good. It's it's what sucks about being a

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Speaker 2: baseball fan is that you feel like even as good,

438
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Speaker 2: or even if you reach your ceiling, you may not

439
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Speaker 2: be able to get past the evil empires that are

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Speaker 2: the teams on the coast. But I don't know how

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Speaker 2: you don't look at this team and think, man, if

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Speaker 2: they could just put it all together one time, it

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Speaker 2: could be a special run. That's kind of how I feel.

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Speaker 2: I want to know what you think. Five on three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Let's go to Eddie in Green Township. What's up, Eduardo,

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Speaker 2: hold Lot Austin.

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Speaker 12: How you guys going today?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing well. What's on your mind?

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Speaker 12: I'm doing great too. We got twenty more days till

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Speaker 12: opening Day. Yes, what I got for you guys is

451
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Speaker 12: my expectations. I feel this has to be the season

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Speaker 12: the Reds get to the postseason, and when a postseason

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Speaker 12: series at the very least, I think anything less that

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Speaker 12: it is considered a disappointment.

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Speaker 2: Right, I agree? Agreed? Yeah, I agree one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: I think that's more than fair. They have way too

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Speaker 2: much talent and they've been building towards this for the

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Speaker 2: last couple of years. The bare minimum is a series

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Speaker 2: victory in the postseason.

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Speaker 12: Yes, this kind of feels like I want to say

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Speaker 12: twenty twelve season coming up. But I'm with you, guys.

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Speaker 12: I feel like this is the team that's like on

463
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Speaker 12: the cuss now finally putting it all together. We would

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Speaker 12: talking about the team like three or four years ago, like, hey,

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Speaker 12: the window is supposed to be twenty twenty five, twenty twenty.

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Speaker 13: Six and beyond.

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Speaker 12: Well we're here now, right, this is year two of

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Speaker 12: Carey Frntona. These guys have been there for three or

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Speaker 12: four years now. Interest here, Eli de Lapruz, Mount McClean looks.

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Speaker 9: Great so far.

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Speaker 12: The Hunter Green news not ideal to start the season off.

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Speaker 12: I didn't want to put our pitching depths, you know,

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Speaker 12: to the test right away, Rockie Kate, but you know,

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Speaker 12: this is.

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Speaker 13: What it is.

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Speaker 12: Let's just hopefully he doesn't have the best significant time,

477
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Speaker 12: maybe a month or two at the worst. But our rotation,

478
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Speaker 12: like I said Austin, is still pretty good. I mean,

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Speaker 12: if you've got a rotation of Nick Lodolo, Andrew Abbott,

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Speaker 12: Brady Singer, Rhet Louder and Chase Burns and stuff the

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Speaker 12: season off, that's still not a bad rotation. Many teams

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Speaker 12: would take that rotation start the season, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, I mean, especially as nasty as Lodolo has been

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Speaker 2: at times. I think it's fair to like have some

485
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Speaker 2: pause because he's one of those dudes that's been injured too.

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Speaker 2: And once you get past Brandon Williamson, there's really not

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Speaker 2: a lot of starting pitching depth inside the organization. Now

488
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Speaker 2: the Reds have said they haven't gone and started considering

489
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Speaker 2: some of those potential guys. Maybe they will depending on

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Speaker 2: the news they get from Hunter Green. But you're exactly right,

491
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Speaker 2: like there is it's as of now they're built to

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Speaker 2: withstand that injury. It could get Harry quickly with the

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Speaker 2: starting rotation, but the other dudes have big league experience,

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Speaker 2: and they've added some veterans in to kind of help

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Speaker 2: with the young guys, and you've got Terry Francona. I

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Speaker 2: think they're out of excuses.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, the hitting looks great so far in spring training.

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Speaker 12: Like you said, the pitching is my little concern because

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Speaker 12: you have three guys that are coming back from season

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Speaker 12: long injuries Brandon Williamson, RTT Louder and UH Julian Aguilar,

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Speaker 12: and the pitching has to look too good in spring training. Grant,

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Speaker 12: this spring training, you know you can't put to his

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Speaker 12: stock in the spring training hitting and pitching. But you

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Speaker 12: know they're working on things and stuff, but the pitching

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Speaker 12: so far is a little concerning. If they're a pitching

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Speaker 12: like this the end of spring training, like Pegane and

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Speaker 12: Stanton and the main guys are the of team still

508
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Speaker 12: will continue to struggle. I'm gonna be a little concern

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Speaker 12: with the bullpen and the rotations. You know that being tested.

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Speaker 12: But look to pick. Can you know ex seed expectations

511
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Speaker 12: and the experts that they're gonna win eighty two eight

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Speaker 12: three games and go up there and just make the

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Speaker 12: postseason for the first time of back to back season

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Speaker 12: since twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, and we'll get past the

515
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Speaker 12: first round because god dang it, I've never seen the

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Speaker 12: rest in a playoff dread in my life. You want

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Speaker 12: to see it?

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Speaker 2: You and thanks for you and me both, Eddie, thank

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Speaker 2: you for the phone call. Good to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, technically I was like five months old, but

521
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Speaker 2: that doesn't count. We all agree that doesn't count. I

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Speaker 2: like this conversation. Let's keep it going. Let's talk to

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Speaker 2: Paul and Price Ell and John Michael next on ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Tony Pike. Since he three sixty on

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Speaker 1: ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Going out to Goodyear talking to Charlie Goldsmith twenty five

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Speaker 2: minutes from right now. Chuck actually probably on his way

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Speaker 2: to Scottsdale to watch the Reds where they played the

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Speaker 2: San Francisco Giants this afternoon. That's a three zero five

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Speaker 2: first pitch. We'll give you the red to lineup coming

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Speaker 2: up later on in the show, but right now we're

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Speaker 2: looking for realistic, fair expectations for the twenty twenty six

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Speaker 2: Reds now less than three weeks away until opening day.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in this is since he three to sixty. I'm

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Speaker 2: Austin Elmore. Let's go to Price Hill and talk to Paul.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Paul, Hey, good to talk to you.

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Speaker 14: Likewise, I am, I've got the Reds. I'm cautiously optimistic. Okay,

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Speaker 14: eighty six right in there. But the onle thing I

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Speaker 14: wanted to talk about was I really think that all

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Speaker 14: this comes down to. And I'm not always a manager guy.

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Speaker 14: With I don't think they make that much of a difference,

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Speaker 14: but I think with Francona, everybody respects him, and I

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Speaker 14: you know, I think I respect him he's a great personality.

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Speaker 14: But I think if the question is going to be,

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Speaker 14: you know, all those what if guys, let's say, you know,

547
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Speaker 14: maybe three or four of them will come through, but

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Speaker 14: there'll be some that don't, how soon will he move

549
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Speaker 14: on from them? Because you talked about all that depth,

550
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Speaker 14: he will have like three or four guys in Triple

551
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Speaker 14: A that you know. I think he needs to pull

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Speaker 14: the trigger sooner on the guys that aren't, you know,

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Speaker 14: like keep Brian Hayes would be an example.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point, Paul, because I think there

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Speaker 2: was times last year where he held on to Santiago

556
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Speaker 2: espinall too long, and he held on to Matt McClain

557
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Speaker 2: too long, and then it just kind of caused a

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Speaker 2: hole in the lineup or it caused an issue and offensively,

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if that was because they didn't

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Speaker 2: really have the dudes to lean on then that they

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Speaker 2: do now and you're just kind of forcing it to happen.

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Speaker 2: But I agree with you. I think there were some

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Speaker 2: times last year where it's like, Okay, this isn't working,

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Speaker 2: let's shake it up. And he was a little more

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Speaker 2: patient than I expected.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, And I don't know whose decision it was. I

567
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Speaker 14: don't remember. There was a three week period where they

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Speaker 14: carried Austin Win as a third catcher and you got

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Speaker 14: like two at bats.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he was hit the ball pretty good.

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Speaker 14: I thought it was when I was watching a major

572
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Speaker 14: college team and he was a walk on.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it just didn't Yeah.

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Speaker 14: I don't know if that was a management or if

575
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Speaker 14: that was Francona. But you know, you know, if the

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Speaker 14: team was winning every game, that'd be great. Let him sit,

577
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Speaker 14: but so that, you know, just little stuff. And I

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Speaker 14: do think, you know, between McClain and and Ali daa

579
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Speaker 14: Cruz and all that stuff, he's talked about resting the

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Speaker 14: guy or you know, sitting them down when they aren't performing, right.

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Speaker 14: I hope he applies it to the other players too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you one hundred percent, Paul. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for the phone call. And yeah, that's that's the thing. Like,

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Speaker 2: and Francona was asked about this yesterday when they were

585
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Speaker 2: on ESPN. He's been asked about it all throughout spring training,

586
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Speaker 2: like what was your message to the team this year,

587
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Speaker 2: how did it differ from a year ago? And and

588
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Speaker 2: the players have talked about this and Tito's talked about

589
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Speaker 2: this is that it's time, like there's there's no more

590
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Speaker 2: waiting around. You got to taste the champagne at the

591
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Speaker 2: end of last season, you got to go and experience

592
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Speaker 2: the playoffs. You went up and up against the best

593
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Speaker 2: player on the planet. Like you've experienced all that. Now

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Speaker 2: it's time to go. And I think that that some

595
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: times is a message that can be too much for

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Speaker 2: a team to handle, especially a young team. But when

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00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: you've propped up the young team with veterans, guys like Pagan,

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Speaker 2: guys like Key Brian Hayes, guys like Jose Travino, you

599
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Speaker 2: add in pieces like like Nathaniel Lowe, like maybe JJ Bledat,

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Speaker 2: whatever it might be. I think that can be the

601
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Speaker 2: right mix, that can be the right concoction. And he

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Speaker 2: does have a deeper bench, and I would hope that

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Speaker 2: he is less patient and that there are some lessons

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Speaker 2: learned from Terry FRANKCNA And I think one of the

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Speaker 2: things about Tito is he always sees the good in guys.

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Speaker 12: Right.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't want to be the guy that has to

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Speaker 2: tell you no, doesn't want to be the guy who

609
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Speaker 2: has to to be responsible for taking you out of

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Speaker 2: the game, and maybe last year that was just he

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Speaker 2: was he was back in the swing of things and

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Speaker 2: just was looking at every thing glass half full. Well,

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Speaker 2: then the season ends and you realize, gosh, we really

614
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Speaker 2: underperformed and we didn't do well enough, and now you

615
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Speaker 2: have a better team and the pressure has been turned up,

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Speaker 2: not only externally but internally as well. Then I'm curious

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Speaker 2: to see how those decisions will now differ because of that.

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Speaker 2: Let's go out to our old friend John Michael, who

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Speaker 2: wants to talk a little bit about the rest. Hi, John,

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Speaker 2: how are you.

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Speaker 14: Hey, Austin.

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Speaker 2: How you doing It's It's been a long time since

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Speaker 2: I've heard your voice. Is everything? Well? How's your mom?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 8: Mom's good.

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Speaker 15: Uh.

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Speaker 9: We did bingo on Wednesday.

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Speaker 11: I think she won like a mug in fourteen dollars,

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Speaker 11: so that was pretty Cool'm getting aircut.

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Speaker 2: Is she a big coffee drinker? Am?

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Speaker 11: No, she just gets those mugs because I got a

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Speaker 11: cricket at home and I'll do decals on it and

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Speaker 11: says world's best mom. She probably got like one hundred

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Speaker 11: and ten of them.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's pretty cool. I didn't know you were a

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Speaker 2: cricket profession Oh you have no idea.

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Speaker 11: I'm I'm a wizard, but uh no, talking about the

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Speaker 11: Reds mean, you know, if people keep on banging about

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Speaker 11: to Brian Hayes, we'll see a lifetime two fifty hitter.

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Speaker 11: Let's get him up to two fifty and with him

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Speaker 11: playing third base, that's gonna cut They need to cut

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Speaker 11: the airs down, and him playing third base next to

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Speaker 11: the next to Ellie that that diminishes Ellie going to

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Speaker 11: his right in the hole because he's got a third

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Speaker 11: base and that can go to his left and get everything.

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Speaker 11: That's gonna cut down on airs right there.

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Speaker 8: So the two biggest the two biggest question.

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Speaker 9: Marks besides that is can South Stewart be a poor

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Speaker 9: man's Nick Kerts? Can he hit twenty five home runs,

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Speaker 9: drive in seventy five to eighty And Matt.

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Speaker 11: McClain obviously the biggest question mark on the team. If

652
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Speaker 11: Matt McClain can be the guy they drafted, which.

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Speaker 10: He's shown in spring training.

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Speaker 11: But last time I checked David South, he hit like

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Speaker 11: seven hundred and fifty one.

656
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Speaker 2: Year in spring training.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, so, I mean with that being said,

658
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Speaker 9: in the pitching, that's fine. Their biggest issue is the

659
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Speaker 9: seventh and the eighth inning.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

661
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Speaker 12: So if they can cut that.

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Speaker 9: Down, they'll be fine.

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Speaker 10: So I don't, you know, and.

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Speaker 11: Tito Francona, look at his track record, pretty good in

665
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Speaker 11: the second year, figure out all except for Philadelphia.

666
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Speaker 14: But I don't know.

667
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 10: I'm all big spaceball guy.

668
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Speaker 8: I'm just you know, I'm on the.

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Speaker 2: Privy button, right, You're clearly not a very big baseball

670
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Speaker 2: guy to drop a poor man's Nick Kurtz in the

671
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Speaker 2: in the the spiel you just gave.

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Speaker 14: Well, I do spaceball cards because they're popular.

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Speaker 2: I could go fifty of him.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I got thirty six dollars on e. But but yeah,

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Speaker 11: I mean, like just keep Brian Hayes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good point.

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Speaker 10: Even if he's not hitting.

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00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 11: Wow, he's gonna cut down on Ellie's on Elle's range.

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00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: You're exactly right to go up the middle.

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00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 8: Thrown across his body as much.

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Speaker 11: And he's not, you know, And that's why I's work

682
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 11: on your hamstring too.

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Speaker 10: Last time I checked. Never played baseball day in my life,

684
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Speaker 10: but I play a lot of the show.

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Speaker 11: What about a Hunter Green getting that diamond?

686
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Speaker 14: Brow?

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Speaker 2: Did he get a diamond? I didn't see the ratings

688
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Speaker 2: come out.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, man, he got one. I thought I.

690
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Speaker 2: Was looking on X now somebody, Yes, somebody told me

691
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: that they're doing a special red diamond this year. Is

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Speaker 2: that true.

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Speaker 9: That?

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Speaker 8: I have no idea?

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Speaker 11: Man?

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Speaker 10: And how about Tyler Stevenson.

697
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Speaker 13: How about Tyler Stevenson?

698
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Speaker 14: Do well?

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Speaker 11: I mean, we haven't had an all starry catcher since

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Speaker 11: Mesroco and then he got that hip thing, Kylas Stevenson.

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Speaker 2: Let's just do well, Okay, John, thank you for the

702
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: phone call. You know what I'm gonna say, I love

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Speaker 2: you too.

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Speaker 16: I love you so he's the best I want.

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Speaker 2: I do want to say this. Mode. Mode did a

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Speaker 2: whole thing about this the other day, and he is

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Speaker 2: exactly right. And it's kind of in the same vein

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Speaker 2: as what John Michael is talking about, which is as

709
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Speaker 2: much as we say it's time for the ifs to

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00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 2: turn into certainties this season, like we forget about how

711
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 2: bad the defense was, and specifically defensively for Ellie de

712
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Speaker 2: la Cruz. I have always said that he makes the

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Speaker 2: impossible look routine, and the routine look impossible. Ellie has

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Speaker 2: got to clean it up consistently, and I do think

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Speaker 2: the key Brian Hayes thing and I don't want to

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Speaker 2: ask Charlie about this is it's part of the part

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Speaker 2: of the reason Key Brian Hayes is here is because

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Speaker 2: of what's going on with Ellie de la Cruz and

719
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Speaker 2: to make him a better defender. That is a poignant

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Speaker 2: point from John Michael, and he's one hundred percent correct.

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Speaker 2: If you are a better defensive team, you're going to

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Speaker 2: help yourself in every other facet of the game. Drew,

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Speaker 2: you were going to say something, I.

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Speaker 3: Just you know, he brought up if the name escapes

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Speaker 3: me now, but he talks about the guy who hit

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Speaker 3: like seven point fifty spring training, and my thing when

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Speaker 3: I watch you know, Red spring training or anybody in

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Speaker 3: spring training for that matter, is is like, are you

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Speaker 3: what is your process? Like like what like what is

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Speaker 3: your do you have a plan when you go up

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Speaker 3: to the plate? And when I watch McClain in this

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Speaker 3: spring and I've watched it very closely because as many

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Speaker 3: people have stated on this radio station today and days before,

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Speaker 3: he kind of is the lynchpin for how this offense

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Speaker 3: is going to go. And I really just wanted to watch,

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Speaker 3: like what is his process going up to the plate?

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Speaker 3: Is he swinging and missing at bad pitches. Is he

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Speaker 3: you know, is he taking tough pitches, is he making

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Speaker 3: pictures pay for mistakes? And is he going the other

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Speaker 3: way when the opportunity presents itself. And he has done

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Speaker 3: all of those things right. And that is why I'm

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Speaker 3: bullish about him going into the season. It has nothing

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Speaker 3: to do with the raw numbers that he has in

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Speaker 3: spring training. Even if you know, if he was hitting

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Speaker 3: it right to guys, I would still feel pretty good because, like,

746
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 3: you know, the process is there. And yesterday alone he

747
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 3: had one where he balls on the outside part of

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Speaker 3: the plate, a pitch that he struggled with last year. Yeah,

749
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Speaker 3: a two strike pitch, I believe, and took it, you know,

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Speaker 3: just kind of served it the other way for a single.

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Speaker 3: And then on his homer, the pitcher hung a breaking ball,

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Speaker 3: you know about chest high, right in the middle of

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Speaker 3: the middle of his own.

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Speaker 2: And you know what they say about hanging it, You're

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00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 2: not gonna see it anymore. You hang it, we bang

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Speaker 2: it correct.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And so like that is why I'm bullish about

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Speaker 3: Matt McClain is because his process has looked so much

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Speaker 3: better this season as it did last And I ultimately

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Speaker 3: think if if he can solidify that two hole and

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Speaker 3: my expectation for the Reds this year has been the

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Speaker 3: same since the beginning of camp. It's play a home

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Speaker 3: playoff game. It doesn't make the playoffs. It isn't you know,

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Speaker 3: interesting whichever way you want to do it. Either if

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Speaker 3: you are a wildcard team, then get out of the wildcard,

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Speaker 3: or have one of those records where you don't have

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Speaker 3: to play in the wildcard with the division, play a

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Speaker 3: home playoff game.

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Speaker 2: That is what I want the Reds to do. That's

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Speaker 2: a good point. And the other part too, you mentioned

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Speaker 2: is the ability to have the two hole guy. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'd wouldn't imagine anyone else has a better chance than

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Speaker 2: Matt McLain is right now to be the guy, much

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Speaker 2: like he was last year. The trickle down effect of

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Speaker 2: the rest of that lineup, obviously friedel Is Pennsylvan is

776
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Speaker 2: the two hole guy. You can write him in sharpie

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00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 2: or as the leadoff guy you put him in sharpie.

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Speaker 2: And then if you have the next McClain de la

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00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 2: Cruz Suarez Steer however you want to like that right

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Speaker 2: there is a really just life is hell for a

781
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Speaker 2: pitcher and the protection that Ellie offers McClain that Suarez

782
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Speaker 2: offers Ellie and down the line can make this team

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Speaker 2: offensively a weapon. We'll take a break, we'll come back.

784
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Speaker 2: We'll wrap up our number one. Next on the Home

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Speaker 2: of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 1: See continues now on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever bonked anybody?

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Speaker 9: Drew?

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00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 2: I've been to the Fallen Warehouse a couple of times.

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00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 2: I need to go.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty fun a little but if you get a

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Speaker 3: big group together, it kind of drives the cost down

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Speaker 3: a little bit and it is quite a good time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do some bunking sho Otani bunked one out of

795
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 2: the ballpark last night. It was a thirteen to nothing,

796
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: just a drubbing from Japan over Chinese Taipei in the

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Speaker 2: World Baseball Classic pool play. It was a grand slam

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Speaker 2: from Otani. Taipei had just one hit in the game.

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Speaker 2: They were playing that game at the Tokyo Dome. It

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Speaker 2: was ridiculous. Yoshiomo Yoshinobu Yamamoto with the victory for Japan,

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Speaker 2: and that only played seven innings. Of course, due to

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Speaker 2: the run rule. There is World Baseball Classic action on

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Speaker 2: as we speak Cuba. I don't know how this is possible.

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00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 2: Cuba is up three to nothing in the sixth inning

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00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: over Panama right now in game one of their pool

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Speaker 2: play game. Meanwhile, bottom of the second Venice Wela is

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00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 2: up to one over the Netherlands and getting ready to

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00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: get started here in just a few minutes, will be

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Speaker 2: Mexico and Great Britain. Later tonight at six o'clock it's

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00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 2: Puerto Rico and Columbia, and then at seven pm it'll

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Speaker 2: be Nicaragua up against the Dominican Republic. And at eight

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00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: o'clock tonight the United States taking on Brazil from Daycon

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00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: Park in Houston. And then meanwhile, game two in the

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Speaker 2: Tokyo Dome for TYPEI, they will take on Chechia. That's

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00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 2: at ten pm tonight. So that's what's crazy about that.

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00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: So that game was at five o'clock this morning, and

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00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 2: then they all go to sleep and then play another

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Speaker 2: game while we're all still away. It's you know how

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00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 2: time time zoned time zones are wild man times. It's

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Speaker 2: logan web By by the way right hand or starting

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Speaker 2: for the United States tonight, I'm going to check in

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Speaker 2: here really quick click on this and see if au

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Speaker 2: A and e O Suarez has done anything for Venezuela.

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00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 2: But I don't believe he has. I don't believe he

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Speaker 2: is in the starting lineup today for the Venezuelan national team.

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Speaker 2: They are playing those games down in Miami, all right,

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Speaker 2: So that puts a rap on Hour number one. We

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Speaker 2: didn't talk as much about Hunter Green because I have

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Speaker 2: a bunch of Hunter Green questions for Charlie Goldsmith, And

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Speaker 2: as we all know, Charlie is over in Goodyear covering

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Speaker 2: the Reds and I'm sure has a lot of information

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00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 2: maybe that we haven't had a chance to get to yet.

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00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 2: Charlie did report that Hunter Green had an injection in

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Speaker 2: his elbow on October the twenty eighth, which was about

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Speaker 2: one month exactly after that playoff start against the Los

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Speaker 2: Angeles Dodgers. I have questions about that, and hopefully Charlie

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Speaker 2: has the answers. We'll talk to him next as we

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Speaker 2: start hour two of since he three to sixty right

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Speaker 2: here on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati.

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Speaker 17: K Wise, Cincinnati, make us the number one pre set

841
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Speaker 17: on your car radio and on the free new and

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Speaker 17: improved iHeartRadio app. Free never sounded so good. ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 1: Is Tony Pike Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati. From Cincinnati.

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00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Hello, welcome in hour number two of Cincy three

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Speaker 2: sixty Here on ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm Austin Elmore. No

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Speaker 2: Tony with us today, Big fellow back on Monday. But

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Speaker 2: the show goes on, and as we normally do at

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Speaker 2: this time every Friday, we talked to our guy Charlie

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00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 2: Goldsmith from Charlie's Chalkboard The gold Standard on Fox nineteen,

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00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 2: the Power Stacks Podcast. He's everywhere these days, including in

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00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 2: Arizona covering the Reds in spring training. Hi, Charlie, how

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00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 2: are you.

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00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 10: Austin? I'm doing great. How are you?

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00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,760
Speaker 2: I'm wonderful. I'm curious everybody keeps talking about the high

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00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 2: sky in Arizona. Can you describe that?

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Speaker 9: Like?

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Speaker 2: What does it mean to have a high sky out

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Speaker 2: there in Arizona?

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Speaker 18: You know what?

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Speaker 10: That's one thing I still really don't know the answer to.

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00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 10: And you see it on both sides. You see good thought,

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00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 10: good fly ball catchers and bad flyball catchers struggle with it.

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00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 10: But I guess it's how few clouds there are or

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Speaker 10: something like that makes it seem extra blue and extra

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Speaker 10: extra high. But I guess this is why I didn't

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Speaker 10: make it into the big league.

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00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 2: Well, that's the first question of maybe many that I'm

869
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 2: going to ask you that I don't know if you

870
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 2: know the answer to, and the main topic being Hunter

871
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: Green and the elbow stiffness that he dealt with towards

872
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: the end of last year that is now cropped up again.

873
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: My first question would be when did the Reds know

874
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 2: that Hunter was experiencing elbow stiffness? Was it last year,

875
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 2: in the middle of it, or was it going into

876
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 2: spring training this year?

877
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 10: Yes, last September, the Reds and Hunter were We're talking

878
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 10: about this and it was something that I even had

879
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 10: heard rumblings of at the time but wasn't in position

880
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 10: to report. But that was around kind of a controversy

881
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,439
Speaker 10: at the time, which was why weren't the red moving

882
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 10: Hunter's start day up a day to get him an

883
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 10: extra start in the regular season. We know now it

884
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:11,240
Speaker 10: was because of this siffness. Now that's something I understand.

885
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 10: They got more clarity about in October, which led to

886
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 10: Hunt for getting an injection the decision was made, and

887
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 10: I'm using the passive voice for a reason to go

888
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 10: with an injection over something that would just completely eliminate

889
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 10: it and put it behind you. With Hunter obviously aiming

890
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 10: for beam full goat to start a spring training, which

891
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 10: he thought he was going to be, but then obviously

892
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 10: the sort of I did not dissipate, and here we

893
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 10: are now waiting more information. But it's concerning. I mean

894
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 10: not long term the UGLS clean, but right now for

895
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 10: the start of the season, it's concerning.

896
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 2: So was there imaging done after last year that revealed

897
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 2: that the UCL was fine and that there were bone

898
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 2: spurs and that led to the decision to get the injection?

899
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying.

900
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 10: That's that's how I understand it. Obviously Hunter knew about

901
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 10: the bone spurs before the soreness returned in spring. That's

902
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 10: how I understand the timeline.

903
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 2: What was the injection, I don't know, okay.

904
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 10: Usually PRP or I would assume it wasn't a quarter

905
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 10: zone shot, that wouldn't make sense something like that.

906
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 2: But I don't have the answer to that, okay. And

907
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 2: so that kind of that makes the most sense to

908
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 2: me because I was the most curious about the timeline

909
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 2: and when the Reds knew and when they didn't, and

910
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 2: what the decision was made to then, as you said,

911
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 2: kind of let it rest, give it the shot, and

912
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 2: be ready for spring training. But it came back. And

913
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 2: so now I guess the question is could they take

914
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 2: that route again? Is that what they're trying to figure out,

915
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 2: either to take that same route or to have some

916
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: sort of procedure that's going to take him out for

917
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 2: an extended amount of time.

918
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 10: Well, I mean the real answer is the truth is

919
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 10: here that they just don't know. And the takeaway from

920
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 10: the last week from the Red side from Green side,

921
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 10: it's we just need more information because obviously a route

922
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 10: that would have been ideal wasn't taken in October because

923
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 10: the soreness returned, you know, they weren't able to really

924
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 10: put that behind them. So it turned out at the

925
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 10: end of the day, they just needed more information and

926
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 10: that's what Hunter's getting now. And again the fact that

927
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 10: Elatrosha is involved shows that it's something they really feel

928
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 10: like they need an expert that there don't have experts,

929
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 10: but but Ala Trosha is the front of elbow research

930
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 10: in the world. So it's something they really need an

931
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:46,439
Speaker 10: an expert expert expert opinion on because Plan A didn't

932
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 10: go according to play.

933
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 2: I've talked to two different people now that have told

934
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: me that the shelf life for a Tommy John surgery

935
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 2: is in the six to seven year range. Now, you

936
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: just said that the UCL is intact, and that's not

937
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 2: something that I guess the Reds are all that worried about.

938
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 2: But Hunter Green did have Tommy John surgery in twenty nineteen,

939
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 2: which would put us on the timeline of maybe this

940
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 2: being an issue. Is that a concern at all within

941
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 2: the organization Tommy John or the UCL, or the impact

942
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 2: that what is currently happening could then impact the UCL.

943
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 10: I don't think so. And it probably depends on your

944
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 10: Tommy John surgery because I know everyone's kind of different

945
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 10: based on how the ligaments whatever I bet I can

946
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 10: come up with if you gave me a minute. A

947
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 10: lot of examples of guys who had Tommy John and

948
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 10: never worried about it. Again, that could be the case

949
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 10: for Hunter Again, he felt very confident about his elbow

950
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 10: and he had more information than he shared with the publicly. Sure,

951
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 10: so that's not something that is on the forefront of

952
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 10: my radar. Right now.

953
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 2: Okay, so now we look into the trickle down effect

954
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 2: on the rest of the organization. What to you does

955
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: this mean for Chase Burns, for Rhet Louder, and even

956
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 2: for Brandon Williamson.

957
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 10: I'll start here, like the Reds almost had a problem

958
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 10: that was a great problem, the perfect problem to have,

959
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 10: Like Rhet Louder is the talk of camp. It was

960
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,439
Speaker 10: become so entering camp what I said, probably on the show,

961
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 10: I said it wherever it was. There's nothing wrong with

962
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 10: having wreck at his feet went and to play, build

963
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 10: up that competitive stamina, build up his arm, and then

964
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 10: join the big league rotation when they need him.

965
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 19: Right.

966
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 10: That was not my opinion on Reht anymore. He was

967
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 10: too good to do that with. So they would have

968
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 10: had to have done something like the Brewers have done

969
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 10: this where it's kind of not a six men rotation

970
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 10: because they don't want that, and not a long reliever

971
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 10: because you want to keep them on schedule, but some

972
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 10: sort of hybrid piggybacked situation like they were about to

973
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,240
Speaker 10: have to, you know, pull up a spreadsheet and figure

974
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 10: out some advanced picking plane to make sure that Rhet

975
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 10: Louder is in the big league, right, you meet him

976
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 10: on the roster, so now obviously he's just on the

977
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 10: rosters if it starter. There is one more concern, which

978
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 10: is that they will have to manage the innings of

979
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 10: Brett and Williamson over the course of the season, right

980
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 10: and act Ar as well. So you're starting pitching depth.

981
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 10: Isn't full starting pitching depth because you're not going to

982
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 10: get in to get two hundred innings out of them.

983
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 10: But now Louder just joins the rotation and you got

984
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 10: or you know, Williamson's still competing and he's been a

985
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 10: nice surprising camp. But there's the top five right now.

986
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so the trade for I believe Kyle Nicholas

987
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 2: the other day that sends Tyler Callahan to Pittsburgh, What

988
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 2: exactly does that trade mean? And could those two things

989
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 2: be connected if they're going to need to rely on

990
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 2: the bullpen maybe a little bit more while there's an

991
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 2: innings limit for those guys, What exactly does that trade mean?

992
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 2: In your eyes?

993
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 10: It's a completely separate conversation. And you know, I don't

994
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 10: want to to read tune. I want to too much,

995
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 10: is what I'm trying to say. Of like, the springs

996
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 10: the Dak Maxwell and line Richard Soner are having in

997
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 10: the week day count of Phillips is nice and he'll

998
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 10: probably make the team, but it's not like he's just

999
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 10: been September Conn of Phillips right away. I don't want

1000
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 10: to make too much of any of that, But when

1001
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 10: you look at the fact that no one really has

1002
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 10: has pop pop pop out of that group, Like, for example,

1003
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 10: I did my spring training player pull today, who's standing out?

1004
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 10: And if you would have asked me a month ago,

1005
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 10: I would have expected one of those rookies would be

1006
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 10: having one of those types of springs where man like

1007
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 10: this guy's about to be a seventh inning guy. That

1008
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 10: just hasn't happened for anty of them. So they want

1009
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 10: to kind of add another dart because that's what what

1010
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 10: relief prospects are, you know. Dart throws, some stick, don't,

1011
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 10: some hit on their elite stuff, some can't throw strikes.

1012
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 10: Nicholas he's twenty seven, he's been older, but he's in

1013
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 10: the dack same bucket as May Maxwell, et cetera. Really

1014
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 10: great stuff like great stuff. Can he throw a strike?

1015
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 10: Who knows? Let's see, let's watch, let's all learn together.

1016
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 10: He's a guy who kind of gives them another long

1017
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 10: term option. Kind of works a little bit to me,

1018
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 10: like Lucas Sims. When Lucas first got here, that obviously

1019
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 10: was a ten out of ten outcome. But we'll see

1020
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 10: if he can find the take consistency the Lucas.

1021
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 2: How do you balance placing players in these buckets while

1022
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 2: understanding that it is spring training baseball? Like, yeah, Louder

1023
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 2: is pitching really well, Burns is pitching really well, and

1024
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 2: these other guys may and Maxwell maybe not as much.

1025
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 2: And then a guy like you know, Graham ash crafton

1026
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 2: and you know Santiine and Pegan way too early to tell,

1027
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 2: they just had their first appearances, But like, how do

1028
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 2: you balance putting them in those buckets and understanding, Okay,

1029
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 2: this is really good, but also this maybe isn't And

1030
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 2: it's also spring training baseball, and I don't want to

1031
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 2: weigh it down too much. How do you balance that?

1032
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 10: It's especially hard with relievers and just full transparency, Like

1033
00:54:55,320 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 10: I think personally, I'm the worst, the worst group for me,

1034
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 10: the hardest groups me to evaluate, and where I've had

1035
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 10: the most missed dievaluating back end relievers, set up guys

1036
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 10: enclosures and spring training. I was thinking yesterday while Santiano

1037
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 10: Pagan had bad days, like but also I've I've read

1038
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 10: into both good and bad guys who were supposed to

1039
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 10: be back in relievers for the Reds, and I've been

1040
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 10: completely wrong and completely missed on the path. So it's

1041
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 10: you know, the context of their careers, whether or not

1042
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 10: they're coming off injury, whether or not they have a

1043
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 10: specific picture, adjustment or command thing they need to fix

1044
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 10: and go positively and negatively like you said, like htt

1045
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 10: just the pure stuff right, Like seeing that and the

1046
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 10: fact that that exists, like that leads to the hype

1047
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 10: around Red Louder where like there are other guys who

1048
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 10: you wouldn't read into positively. It's all they're all their

1049
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 10: own thing. And I don't know if I have it right. Heck,

1050
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 10: you know, every day fault probably gets happenings right to

1051
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,919
Speaker 10: have to be wrong. Yeah, I will say this, I'm

1052
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 10: I'm not concerned, I am noticed, Or let me say

1053
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 10: it like this way. A week from now, if these

1054
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 10: bullpenscher and continue, I will be as excited about the

1055
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 10: bullpen as I was entering sprint.

1056
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 2: Okay, that kind of answered my next question, because my

1057
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 2: next question is, and I've I've never been shy about this.

1058
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 2: I'm not buying what Graham Ashcraft is selling. Should like,

1059
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 2: should I be concerned? Or am I crazy for thinking

1060
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 2: like there's there's a lot for Graham Ashcraft to prove.

1061
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 10: One hundred I agree with that specifically, like and again

1062
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 10: it hasn't happened yet, but like there's a world where

1063
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 10: Phillips is this seventh is this team seventh inning guy

1064
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 10: by May and of course then Ashcraft's in a different

1065
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 10: world how I've always viewed Ashcraft is. And this is

1066
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 10: a compliment because Nick Martinez gets paid fifty million a year,

1067
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 10: Like I've always seen him as kind of a guy

1068
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 10: like that, you can just give them the ball, let

1069
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 10: it rip, give me a trip through the order, and

1070
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 10: really just reliever Nick Martinez because you wouldn't be asking

1071
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 10: to go back to the rotation like a guy who

1072
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 10: when it's tied in the fifth inning and your starter

1073
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 10: has a short.

1074
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 20: Day, you let Graham getned out. I think I really

1075
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 20: love Graham in that role. Now, I asked about that,

1076
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 20: I know, and during the spring, the Reds were like,

1077
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,919
Speaker 20: we believe in Graham kind of they didn't say, yes,

1078
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 20: he's returning to the seventh inning, but it definitely felt

1079
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 20: that way.

1080
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 10: I'm not going to read into too much of what

1081
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Speaker 10: he's done this spring. I will say last year he

1082
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 10: was incredible out of the gate in MLB, and they

1083
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 10: kind of got worn down, got banged up a bit.

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Speaker 10: And I think what they shocked the ups and downs

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Speaker 10: last year up to was it was his first full

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Speaker 10: year's or reliever and he didn't even have a spring

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Speaker 10: as a reliever. And what Graham would tell you about

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00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 10: his spring this year is one his worst day the

1089
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 10: other day in Oakland was not his fault. That was

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Speaker 10: his defensive fault and I wanted to Oakland those a

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Speaker 10: few days before that. And then two he's just learning

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00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 10: how to do spring training as a reliever. But yeah,

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00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 10: I mean he's not a slam dunk. He's not a

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00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 10: sure thing as a high leverage guy.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Charlie old Smith from Charlie's Chalkboard, the gold Standard,

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Speaker 2: Power Stacks and more. You wrote last week about key

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Speaker 2: Brian Hayes and kind of doing a deep dive into

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Speaker 2: that trade, and I know that that's something you've been

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Speaker 2: chasing down for a while about why the Reds decided

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Speaker 2: to do this. What did you learn in writing that

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Speaker 2: story about the Reds and the plan and the belief

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Speaker 2: in Key Brian Hayes.

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Speaker 10: Well, first, obviously this isn't any breaking news. They got

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Speaker 10: him because of his glove and it's and NICRL told

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Speaker 10: me that the clearest example of what they've done so

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Speaker 10: far that they're trying to be a pitching defense team,

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00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 10: more of a pitching defense team than they've ever been.

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00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 10: Now underlie and roll your eyes, underlying metrics, underlying metrics.

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Speaker 10: They saw a path and a plan and a vision

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Speaker 10: for Hayes that Pittsburgh and their coaches were doing the

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00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 10: very poor job executing. And Cabrian talked about that it

1112
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Speaker 10: wasn't necessarily a great hitting philosophy for his development. And

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00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 10: they're talking with Hayes about getting the ball in the

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Speaker 10: air war not necessarily being one so pull minded and

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00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 10: two like there were stretches when we're like, just get

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Speaker 10: the ball on the ground and make contact, do whatever

1117
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 10: you can to make contact. The Reds and Cabrian for

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Speaker 10: the first time since twenty twenty three, when he's actually

1119
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 10: was an average hitter, which for him, I mean, that's

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Speaker 10: a valuable player. With his glove, like they feel like

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Speaker 10: they have an idea that Hayes believes him that can

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Speaker 10: get him back to that. The Reds planted that flag

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Speaker 10: and said this is what we think and believe when

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Speaker 10: they traded a notable prospect for him, and now it's

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Speaker 10: just one can they execute it? And two can Cabrian

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Speaker 10: Hayes his back? You know, a chronic dec issue. Sure

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00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 10: that that happened.

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Speaker 2: Defensively, We were just kind of talking in the first

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Speaker 2: hour about Ellie de la Cruz and this being a

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Speaker 2: year where you would hope that he can be a

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Speaker 2: little bit more consistent, and obviously that the quad played

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Speaker 2: a role in that. Is there anything different from Ellie

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Speaker 2: so far in spring training defensively? That feels like he's

1134
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Speaker 2: on the right path there.

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Speaker 10: Ellie's always good in spring defensively. I talked to Freddy

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Speaker 10: Benavidez about this at the start of spring, about specifically

1137
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Speaker 10: the drills he wanted to do, and he spoke about

1138
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 10: being a lot more situational. Freddy kind of coined the term.

1139
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 10: David Bell used it a lot talking about Lae's defense.

1140
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 10: Now Cito used it a lot. Freddy didn't invent this term,

1141
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 10: but coining this term with Ellie is the thing. It's

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Speaker 10: the clock, you know, And Freddy gave me an example,

1143
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Speaker 10: like you have bellins, you're running down the line, your

1144
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 10: upper run on the road. What type of storrow do

1145
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 10: you make this time? Or you know, how do you

1146
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 10: take one out or two? Like all of these specific

1147
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 10: game situations that kind of the consistency got away from

1148
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 10: Ellie when he was hurt last year, and that was

1149
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Speaker 10: the conclusion the red made. But this is an example

1150
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 10: they feel of him just having not played a lot

1151
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Speaker 10: of games and he should be at the point now

1152
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Speaker 10: where that isn't a problem, which it was because you know,

1153
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Speaker 10: even in twenty twenty four early twenty twenty five still

1154
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 10: hadn't played a ton of games because he broke out

1155
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 10: during the pandemic. So that's been the big focus with him.

1156
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Speaker 10: It's been clean in spring, but it's something you really

1157
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 10: need the season two to get a real evaluation.

1158
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Speaker 2: And field Bore finish off the Reds conversation with Matt

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Speaker 2: McClain question. And you obviously have seen him up close

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Speaker 2: over the last couple of weeks. When I've gotten the

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Speaker 2: chance to see McClain on TV, it just feels like

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Speaker 2: there is a confidence for him inside the batter's box.

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Speaker 2: He has a plan. He's not chasing pitches that he

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Speaker 2: can't do anything with. I feel like he's picking the

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Speaker 2: ball up a lot better than maybe we've seen him

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Speaker 2: in the past. I know you wrote about some of

1167
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Speaker 2: the adjustments. What stands out as maybe the most important

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Speaker 2: adjustment Matt McClain has made that seems to be paying

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Speaker 2: off so far in the spring.

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Speaker 10: Do you talk about his confidence And maybe this isn't

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Speaker 10: a good comparison, but I'm going to anyway, Like when

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Speaker 10: Milobe Martez at third base, he was just a bad thrower,

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Speaker 10: and every day he knew he was gonna put himself

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Speaker 10: in a spot where he needs to make a throw,

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Speaker 10: and every day he did and they move the right deal.

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Speaker 10: But once Marte moved the right field, we all know,

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Speaker 10: I mean, actually he's not having a great camp, but

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Speaker 10: they'll we'll see how it goes with him. But moving

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Speaker 10: to right field freed Marte up and just made him

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Speaker 10: this whole new person. So for mcclaim, the hole in

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01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 10: his game last year was the loan away slider. Every day,

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01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 10: every scouting report said, throw McClain a lone away slidder

1183
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 10: and McClain would just come up short literally on all

1184
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 10: of them and swinging minutes and chase and it was

1185
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 10: just a huge hole. So what you saw from him

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Speaker 10: in this spring with set a foundation just I'm gonna

1187
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 10: take the ball the other way, and that built some

1188
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 10: good habits and a good rhythm and a bit of confidence.

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Speaker 10: Now you see McClain one driving balls opposite field and

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Speaker 10: then two building off that hit power, that loan away

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Speaker 10: slider stuff. That's that's the key. And once you finally

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Speaker 10: feel confident about the position you're in against those pitches,

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Speaker 10: that just changes the way you feel as a human

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Speaker 10: being every day in McClain confident he's going to have

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Speaker 10: this All Star season, we'll see. I think he's really

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Speaker 10: gaining confidence in his ability to hit lowan away sliders.

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Speaker 10: I talk to him and Tito about this. The opposite

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Speaker 10: field single against the loan away slider was the moment

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Speaker 10: from a fourteen run game that everyone was talking about

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Speaker 10: after the game in the clubhouse and with the coaches

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Speaker 10: and that kind of stuff. So doing that really is

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Speaker 10: a big deal for him.

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Speaker 2: Is there anyone that could challenge him for the number

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Speaker 2: two hole in the lineup? Right now.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, really hasn't been a competition. I thought they moved

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Speaker 10: around some more. I think it started that way just

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Speaker 10: because he's kind of the guy you want to get

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Speaker 10: the most. Got back to probably Sal would, I mean

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Speaker 10: he's having a great camp. Sure would be the other option,

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Speaker 10: depending on what they want to go. Really, that's a

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Speaker 10: feel decision based on kind of how Frank ConA wants

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Speaker 10: to handle and manage McClain and his confidence.

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Speaker 2: Before I let you go, I do want to ask

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Speaker 2: you quickly about the Bengals obviously have checked off a

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Speaker 2: couple of things on their offseason lists. With Dalton Reisner

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Speaker 2: and with Trey Hendry and free agency looming next week.

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Speaker 2: Is there anybody that you feel like makes sense as

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Speaker 2: some potential targets for the Bengals as we get into

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Speaker 2: next week free agency you'd be keep an eye.

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Speaker 10: Out on, so we'll roll our eyes force multipliers. But

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Speaker 10: I actually tried to take that thought seriously and like

1222
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Speaker 10: tried to find guys who are people at specific positions

1223
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Speaker 10: of need, who you can see on tape and with

1224
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Speaker 10: how they're used making others around them better. That would

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Speaker 10: be Boy mafet Edge. That would be Leo Shanal or

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Speaker 10: Katan Ellis at linebacker and that would be to Kwon

1227
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Speaker 10: Brisker or Jalen Thompson at safety. They each I think

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Speaker 10: the Bengals know exactly what they need at each position.

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Speaker 10: I think this year they have one because of Al.

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Speaker 10: But I also think Al and his scheme make it

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Speaker 10: very clear exactly what they need and what they're looking for. Now,

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Speaker 10: my question is can the Bengals. Can the Bengals execue?

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Speaker 10: Can the Bengals one, you know, negotiate to write this

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Speaker 10: and that and get it all done. And two just

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Speaker 10: like you know, they've gotten guys like Shelton Rankins who

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Speaker 10: they thought was going to be a young leader for

1237
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 10: a young defensive line group and that just didn't happen. Like,

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Speaker 10: you need to make sure you're bringing in the right

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Speaker 10: people as well, which they haven't done a good enough

1240
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Speaker 10: job of in free agency over the last couple of years.

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Speaker 10: So they need to nail that part of it right,

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Speaker 10: which you should be skeptical about because they haven't recently.

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01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 10: But from a football x's and o's perspective, I think

1244
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 10: they know exactly what they want and at least to me,

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01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 10: there are those players available.

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Speaker 2: That's Uh, I agree one hundred percent. Charlie really appreciate it.

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01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 2: Enjoy Scottsdale. It's the best grapefruit or the best Cactus

1248
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 2: League stadium out there is Scottsdale, the home of the Giants.

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Speaker 2: I hope you enjoy it today.

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Speaker 10: Thanks man, I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Charlie, take it easy. Yeah, that is Charlie Goldsmith.

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01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 2: So Charlie's Chalkboard, the Power Stacks podcast, gold standard, Fox

1253
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 2: nineties everywhere. He wrote about Dalton Reisner this week as well.

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Speaker 2: He's just he's a content machine and Friday's one o'clock

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Speaker 2: personally my favorite segment of the week. All right, when

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Speaker 2: we come back a Friday edition of talkbacks right here

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Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 19: Acts, press the microphone and record your message or Austin

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Speaker 19: in tone, please keep it clean and don't be mean,

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Speaker 19: and a sprinkle, sprinkle, drip drip.

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Speaker 2: It's that time for talkbacks.

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Speaker 19: It's our favorite part of sincy three. So Austin, buddy,

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Speaker 19: play those talkbacks on your screen and please ride out

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Speaker 19: to Cybotage.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in since e three sixty, ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 2: It's time for a Friday edition of Talkbacks, Drew, you

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Speaker 2: are in charge, prayer.

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Speaker 21: Dear God, I'm a big fan, but Lord Almighty, please

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Speaker 21: come up with a talkback that does not involve a

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Speaker 21: start bench cut for Eddie's ellen good Heavens, Lord knows it.

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Speaker 21: You could do it, honest to God. Yeah, please don't

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Speaker 21: smite me in the name of the Father and the

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Speaker 21: Son in the Holy Spirit.

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Speaker 2: Amen. Yeah, well said, I mean, it's it's either Eddie

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Speaker 2: Zelich a start bench cut. He often does start bench

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Speaker 2: cuts that I don't play. That involve picking sponsors against

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Speaker 2: each other, which is great, and then or our friends

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Speaker 2: against each other and then Doug Gottlieb. But if he

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Speaker 2: makes more Doug Gottlieb Anti Gottlieb talkbacks, I'm in favor of.

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Speaker 2: There you go. In other news, take that, Mike.

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Speaker 21: Now on to Sonny hot Zona, where a Reese round

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Speaker 21: tripper a Heinz Homer walks off the World Champs with

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Speaker 21: the great Eggman and attendance.

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Speaker 2: Very impressive.

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Speaker 21: And speaking of impressive, how about the at man calling

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01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 21: Santiago Espinal and Nicky longballs to go six for eight

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Speaker 21: and destroy Red's pitching. Yep, those washed up traders went

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Speaker 21: three for four with three home runs and seven RBIs combined.

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Speaker 2: That's on Pace four, six for eight all done. Yep.

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Speaker 2: The band called his shot yesterday. It's a poetic justice

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Speaker 2: of this ball club. I know him too well.

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Speaker 18: Uh so, guys, I've got a confession to make. I

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01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 18: was the one that was kind of running around with

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01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 18: Multi Personality Mike's wife.

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Speaker 13: And.

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01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 18: Unfortunately I didn't realize that he doesn't actually have.

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Speaker 19: A wife, that the quote wife.

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01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 2: Is one of his personalities. I found out the hard way.

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Speaker 19: Guys.

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01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 2: Careful out there, Thank you. Multi Personality Mike is my

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01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:40,600
Speaker 2: favorite talkbacker and he's been known to be sabotaged by

1302
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,799
Speaker 2: Drew Wester Heidi. Oh gosh, I'm doing my best here, folks.

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01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 15: It's the Lord. Happy Friday, bench cut Friday, Austin. You

1304
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 15: guys were talking about backup quarterbacks. Oh, that the Bengals

1305
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 15: should look into one of the quarterbacks. You forgot to

1306
01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 15: mention and it was mentioned on them Egger show is

1307
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 15: Andy Dalton.

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01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 2: That's not true. We talked about it.

1309
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:08,440
Speaker 15: Come back here. He knows the offense, he knows the players.

1310
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 15: What do you guys think?

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01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did five good minutes on Andy Dalton the

1312
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 2: other week when it came out that he was the

1313
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 2: teams were calling the Panthers about him. I think Andy

1314
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:21,599
Speaker 2: Dalton would make a lot of sense here. I think

1315
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:25,679
Speaker 2: Andy Dalton makes the most sense for the Las Vegas Raiders, who,

1316
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:28,839
Speaker 2: by the way, report came out today that the Raiders

1317
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 2: don't want to play Fernando Mendoza right away, which I

1318
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 2: think is interesting. And I think Andy Dalton makes a

1319
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 2: lot of sense for both the Bengals and the Raiders.

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01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 22: Happy Friday, Tony and Austin. Wow, what a beautiful, beautiful day.

1321
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,919
Speaker 22: I have a question, and you've got to answer this honestly,

1322
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 22: Christmas for Tony again, He's okay. Miami plays tonight. If

1323
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 22: they win, they go undefeated. Scenario if you see what

1324
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 22: Miami in Dayton. I hate to say this, but I

1325
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 22: think I'm rooting for Miami.

1326
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, and I'm a.

1327
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 22: Bear Cat alumni.

1328
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 2: What would you do? Well, I can tell you Tony

1329
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 2: would never know, under any circumstances, entertain the thought of

1330
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 2: rooting against UC basketball. I I personally have a problem

1331
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 2: with your outlook. I think you should root for your

1332
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 2: alma mater in a game like that. Correct one percent.

1333
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 2: They often marker from the groove Marcus.

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01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 23: Is it just me or has there been a lot

1335
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 23: of home runs hit so far into spring training. I'm

1336
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 23: not getting over excited. I know it's only spring training

1337
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:46,640
Speaker 23: and maybe the weather down there is different, but it

1338
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 23: just seems to me that the team that we saw

1339
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 23: last year, with the lack of power and home runs,

1340
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 23: is completely changed so far early.

1341
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. I am going to put a little

1342
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 2: bit on it of it on the weather, and I

1343
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 2: am going to put a little bit of it on

1344
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 2: the fact that the breaking pitches don't break as much

1345
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 2: in that air out there. But that being said, you

1346
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:10,719
Speaker 2: still got to put a good swing on a baseball

1347
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 2: hit out of the ballpark, and the Reds have done

1348
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 2: a good job to day.

1349
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 3: I will say I worked the Reds game yesterday. That

1350
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 3: wind was blowing like eighteen mile an hour dead out

1351
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 3: to right. So if you put one up, I said

1352
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 3: it earlier. Santiago Estpinoll hit two home runs yesterday. True,

1353
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 3: like that doesn't happen now were there, Like Ellie's, doesn't

1354
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 3: matter what day it was, right, that thing's gone. Nathaniel Lows,

1355
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 3: I don't care what, like what ballpark was whether, it

1356
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 3: doesn't matter that ball was going over the fence. So again,

1357
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 3: good process leading to good results.

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01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 2: Yes, Happy Friday. Atp.

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01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,600
Speaker 4: Fifteen in Haughty, I gotta start bench cut there in

1360
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 4: the NFL free edge of combination, which you sign if

1361
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 4: you were Duke Tobin and Katie Blackburn at Dapha Oway

1362
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:57,759
Speaker 4: and Devin Lloyd, I have Nick Cross and the Kobe

1363
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 4: Dean or Brian Cook and Franklin Myers.

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01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 2: Damn, that's a good one because I am a John

1365
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 2: Franklin Myers believer, and he's gonna cost them a lot

1366
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 2: of money if he wants to be a Bengal. I'm

1367
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 2: going to start Brian Cook and John Franklin Myers. I'm

1368
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 2: gonna bench a Dafeoway and Devin Lloyd, and I'm gonna

1369
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 2: cut Nick Cross and Jacoby Dean. Those are your expertise,

1370
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 2: not mine.

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01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 19: Hello, this is former President Ronald Reagan and wal I'm

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01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 19: gonna keep things light here on a gorgeous Friday.

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01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 2: Please.

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Speaker 19: Is it just me? Or is the Reds roster filled

1375
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 19: with players who sound more like country music singers than ballplayers.

1376
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:47,759
Speaker 19: I mean you've got Blake Dunn, Yeah, keep Brian Aysrhyes, Hines,

1377
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 19: Tyler Stevenson and Spencer Steer Just to name a few.

1378
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a good way of putting it.

1379
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 2: So I think they're gonna be at the saloon stage

1380
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 2: a country concert. We'll be there. The golf podcast I

1381
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 2: listen to No laying Up local guys.

1382
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 15: Uh.

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01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 3: They play a game on their pod called a Country Star,

1384
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 3: PGA tour Player or Baseball reliever that is brilliant and

1385
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 3: it is remarkable how hard that game can be.

1386
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 2: Has Graham Ashcraft been featured?

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01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 3: The thing is is that two of the guys on

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01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 3: the pod are Reds fans, so they like they know

1389
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 3: the Reds guys, but it's it is pretty remarkable. They

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01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 3: probably get about sixty percent right. And there are a

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01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:29,640
Speaker 3: ton of country music singers that and I listened to

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01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 3: country music a little bit that I've absolutely never heard of.

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01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 2: It is remarkable.

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Speaker 7: Hey, fella's back at the doubled.

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Speaker 24: If you said, what's my expectations of the Reds, Well,

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Speaker 24: I'm thinking maybe somewhere around ninety two ninety three wins

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01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 24: and a playoff appearance rather that wildcard or division winner.

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Speaker 4: Not really sure, but that's.

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01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 2: What I think too.

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Speaker 3: If the Reds win ninety three games and have to

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01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 3: play in the wildcard, s I'm gonna be frustrated.

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01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 2: That would infuriate me. This is Jim from Anderson.

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01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 25: I'mber if you saw the other day old moaning Cronin

1404
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 25: complaining about his players having to get up at the

1405
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 25: traveling Nebraska to go to class the next day. I

1406
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 25: don't know about you, but if I'm making six to

1407
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,879
Speaker 25: seven figures to play for UCLA men's basketball, I'm probably

1408
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 25: not going to class either way. Tell Mickey time Zones,

1409
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 25: it's time to relax. I think that, Key Mighty time Zones.

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01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 2: You know, I've heard some stuff about Mick Cronin lately.

1411
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 2: I don't like that guy. He's grumpy. He's a grumpy Gills.

1412
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 3: And the other thing is, if you want to complain

1413
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 3: about this stuff, complain to your administration for joining a

1414
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 3: conference based out of the Midwest. Correct, immundo, Austin.

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01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,679
Speaker 26: Is sound good today? You do a hell of a job

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01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 26: by yourself there, budd. When does iHeart give you your

1417
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 26: own show? I can hear the title, now more game

1418
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 26: with Austin.

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01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:57,599
Speaker 2: Elmore more game like that on a show. Great job today, guy,

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01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:00,120
Speaker 2: thanks a lot, fine, well, thank you for the kind

1421
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. I'm going to write that down more game.

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01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 2: That's pretty good.

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01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 27: Okay, I think we can all agree we're a little

1424
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 27: bit aggravated with Hunter Green and how he treated himself

1425
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:12,640
Speaker 27: in the offseason. He may or may not have had

1426
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:14,799
Speaker 27: help with that, but the more and more he speaks

1427
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:18,680
Speaker 27: and his arrogance comes across, I'm starting to not be

1428
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 27: much of a fan of them like I.

1429
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 2: Used to be.

1430
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 27: So with that said, I'd like to play a little

1431
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 27: game called name association. I'll go first, Hunter Green, and

1432
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 27: I will answer with Homer Bailey, what do you got?

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01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:34,640
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no no. The first thing I

1434
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:36,879
Speaker 2: think of when I think a Hunter Green is monster.

1435
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 2: That's what I think. I think he's a beast. I

1436
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 2: feel better after talking to Charlie and finding out that

1437
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 2: the Reds knew about this the whole time, and again

1438
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 2: that's just I wanted to know the timeline of events.

1439
01:15:56,600 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 2: I will always disagree with the mindset of get an

1440
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 2: injection and let it rest, especially with elbows. Go in there,

1441
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 2: clean it up, and if you start a little bit

1442
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 2: later than normal, that's a lot better than missing two

1443
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 2: or three or four months. And so I am not

1444
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 2: an expert and I will not am never going to

1445
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 2: pretend to be one. But if it's me, the likely like,

1446
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 2: you just get the damn thing cleaned up and get

1447
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 2: back to work when you can instead of waiting on

1448
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 2: it and waiting on it. And that's what I'm frustrated about.

1449
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 28: I'd be the only one to think this, but I

1450
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 28: don't think Hendrickson is going to want all the money

1451
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 28: that he thinks he's going to get being a free agent.

1452
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 28: He's going to get a big reality check. And me personally,

1453
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,600
Speaker 28: I'm not saying he's overrated, but I am saying like

1454
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 28: all his sacks that he had were pretty much garbage

1455
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 28: time stuff, and a lot of times he didn't show

1456
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 28: up until like the fourth quarter was like a minute

1457
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 28: to go when the Bengals were losing. So maybe you

1458
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 28: guys can help me explain. Beside that one year he

1459
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 28: had all the sacks, what has Hendrickson done that makes

1460
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 28: teams want to pay him that much money.

1461
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 2: Well, I will say this, it was two years of

1462
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 2: seventeen and a half sacks, which is elite production. There

1463
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 2: are underlying pass rush metrics that would suggest he is

1464
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:17,640
Speaker 2: on the same plane as the Daniel Hunters, the Max Crosby's,

1465
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 2: the Micah Parsis Parsons specifically when it comes to pass rush.

1466
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 2: I think what the issue with Hendrickson is is he's

1467
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:27,919
Speaker 2: a poor run defender. He's not a very good tackler.

1468
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 2: He is older, he did just suffer an injury. There

1469
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 2: are times when he completely disappears against tackles that he's

1470
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 2: not supposed to be getting erased by. I think back

1471
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 2: to the Eagles game last year when Fred Johnson looked

1472
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 2: like Anthony Munos against him, and then I think of

1473
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 2: games like the Raiders and like the Steelers where he

1474
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,639
Speaker 2: feasted on backup tackles and got eight and a half

1475
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 2: of his seventeen and a half sacks in those two

1476
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 2: games or whatever the number was. So I have always

1477
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 2: pounded the drum and have said many times on this

1478
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:04,640
Speaker 2: show that Trey Hendrickson is not the elite of the

1479
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 2: elite pass rushers. He is nowhere near Miles Garrett. He

1480
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 2: is not TJ. Watt, He is not MICHAEH. Parsons and

1481
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 2: Max Crosby. Now there might be underlying metrics that suggest

1482
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:18,640
Speaker 2: he's on some of those similar wavelengths, but all of

1483
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 2: those guys are much more complete players than Trey Hendrickson is,

1484
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 2: and they're all younger, and so for that reason, I

1485
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 2: would not pay him top flight money. And this is

1486
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 2: a stance that I have had from the very beginning

1487
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 2: with Trey, and I think the Bengals should have traded him.

1488
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 2: But I think other teams see what I see, and

1489
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 2: they don't see him at that level, so they don't

1490
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 2: value him that much. And the Bengals are trying a

1491
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:42,599
Speaker 2: little bit too much to get more of that similar

1492
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 2: type of value. And I agree with you that I

1493
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 2: think Trey will get out here, and I think he'll

1494
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 2: make plenty of money because Daniel Hunter just did what

1495
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson has been asking to do this whole time.

1496
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 2: He just got another one year extension for forty million dollars.

1497
01:18:55,680 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 2: The market is forty million plus now, Trey, he might

1498
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 2: make thirty five, he might make thirty two. He's gonna

1499
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 2: make more than I think he would have been offered

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01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 2: here in Cincinnati, unless he goes to a place where

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01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:12,680
Speaker 2: he really wants to play, and he maybe gets a

1502
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 2: two year deal at fifty million dollars with all of

1503
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 2: it fully guaranteed, and you know, he goes somewhere like Tampa,

1504
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 2: or he goes somewhere like Tennessee or or somewhere like that.

1505
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 2: Maybe he takes a little bit less money in that situation.

1506
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 2: But if he's just going to sign another one year

1507
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 2: deal and try to prove it and get back out there,

1508
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 2: I could see him making upwards of thirty to thirty

1509
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 2: five million dollars for a team that's willing to pay that.

1510
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 3: And you've got to be looking at teams that have good,

1511
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 3: good quarterbacks on rookie contracts.

1512
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 2: Seems like the Bears.

1513
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 3: Seems like the Patriots, where they can afford to kind

1514
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 3: of you know, you may see thirty seven million as

1515
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:54,600
Speaker 3: an overpay for Trey Hendrickson, but they can afford to

1516
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:55,680
Speaker 3: overpay him for a year.

1517
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 2: Sure, And the Bears have made some moves.

1518
01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 3: They freed up forty four million in cap over the

1519
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 3: past couple of days, and it does not seem like

1520
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 3: they are really in the Crosby running. So that kind

1521
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 3: of lends me to believe that maybe they are a

1522
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 3: destination that is going to go after Tranjison.

1523
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 2: And I also think and I do think the Bears

1524
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 2: are going to make a run at Tyler Linderbaum too

1525
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 2: now that they're center retired. But the Crosby thing it

1526
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 2: seems like it's going to happen, and there's a lot

1527
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:25,759
Speaker 2: of smoke around that situation today, including the Dallas Cowboys,

1528
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 2: and the Cowboys have been a name that's been involved

1529
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 2: in Trey Henderson as well. So once the dust settles

1530
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 2: on Max Crosby, which I'm starting to think will happen

1531
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:38,600
Speaker 2: sooner rather than later. Once that happens, that might clarify

1532
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 2: some things for Trey. I think the two that make

1533
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 2: the most sense to me, and I don't know their

1534
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 2: cap situation, but I would say Tampa just because that's

1535
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:48,680
Speaker 2: a place he wants to be in Florida. And the

1536
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 2: second would be the Tennessee Titans because they have an

1537
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 2: ungodly amount of money to spend, they have a defensive

1538
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,639
Speaker 2: coordinator and Robert Sala, They're in an area that Trey

1539
01:20:57,640 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 2: and his family like. I just feel like that makes

1540
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 2: a lot of sense.

1541
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 29: Titanic struggle tonight Miami against the Ohio Bobcats. I know

1542
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 29: if Pappy Patty went to Miami, she wants the perfect season.

1543
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:20,880
Speaker 29: I like both schools pre I love ou Athens. Yeah,

1544
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 29: if Tom Brenneman went there, Ken Brewce Walsh guitar player

1545
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 29: Fagles went there.

1546
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, there's some stats going into the big

1547
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:33,720
Speaker 3: matchup of the bricks tonight. Miami is not won in

1548
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 3: Athens in over fifteen years.

1549
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty cool.

1550
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 3: Twenty eleven since two thousand, Miami is just three and

1551
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 3: twenty three at Ohio. So that is what's on the

1552
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 3: line tonight for the Miami RedHawks. And I think if

1553
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 3: they win tonight and go undefeated in the regular season,

1554
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 3: I do not think you'll have to worry about them

1555
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 3: not winning the MAC Championship. I think if they complete

1556
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:58,680
Speaker 3: an undefeated regular season, they will be in the tournament,

1557
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 3: in the tournament, not in Dayton, in the tournament, even

1558
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 3: if they don't win the MAC gas.

1559
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 2: You're telling me Dayton doesn't count as in the tournament.

1560
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 2: Is that what you're trying to tell me, Well, it

1561
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:12,560
Speaker 2: depends on who you ask. I wouldn't I think that counts.

1562
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:15,640
Speaker 2: So that's you know, and again that's your opinion. We

1563
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 2: all have our opinions here.

1564
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 3: But but I do like cause the big buzz that's

1565
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 3: been going around here is if you see wins against

1566
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 3: TCU tomorrow and kind of gets into that you know,

1567
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 3: first four, could we see the you know, it was

1568
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 3: brought up in a talk back earlier, but could we

1569
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 3: see the Miami versus UC game in Dayton, which would

1570
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 3: be very fun.

1571
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 2: I would be in attendance for that.

1572
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Choti, it's bake. My prediction is ninety and

1573
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:49,639
Speaker 6: seventy two, second place in the division and they'll make

1574
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 6: the playoffs again. One thing I saw from the game yesterday,

1575
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:56,759
Speaker 6: Julian Aggie are looks like he is healthy and healed.

1576
01:22:57,720 --> 01:22:59,959
Speaker 6: He gave up a run, but his stuff was good.

1577
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:07,440
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, thank you, Benck. Yeah go Audie.

1578
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:11,840
Speaker 30: Good solo show from the NKY.

1579
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 2: What do you know, man?

1580
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 30: I want to piggyback off that first talkbacker. No one

1581
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 30: likes the Lord's voice. It's awful and the takes are awful.

1582
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 30: Put him on the band list?

1583
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 2: No, no, you go? You see who day. You gotta

1584
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 2: be pretty egregious to get on the band list. And

1585
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:36,680
Speaker 2: he tries like hell, And sometimes I don't play his

1586
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 2: stuff and sometimes I do. There's nothing wrong with him.

1587
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 2: All Here we go. Last one Austin.

1588
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:46,720
Speaker 27: That country festival they're advertising over in Newport or Covington

1589
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 27: tomorrow has the.

1590
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 2: Steel Drivers, Yes at it, I believe, which is Stapleton's

1591
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:53,559
Speaker 2: first band, YEP. I was talking about we when we

1592
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 2: announced that we're going to Smoke Justice for opening day,

1593
01:23:56,920 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 2: and Moe was talking about the music that they got

1594
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 2: this weekend at Smoke Justice in that area and the

1595
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,680
Speaker 2: steel Drivers being there. I was fired up because you know,

1596
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 2: I love the steel Drivers. Unfortunately I can't make it,

1597
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 2: but good seats still available. I think everyone should go.

1598
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:16,200
Speaker 2: All right, that's it, all right, we'll take a break.

1599
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:18,639
Speaker 2: We'll do one segment when we come back before we

1600
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 2: head over to Tommy g At the start of our

1601
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 2: number three. This is since E three sixty on ESPN

1602
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. I don't know how, but yesterday we never

1603
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 2: got to our Reds opening day countdown. Well, yesterday was

1604
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:41,760
Speaker 2: three weeks. That would be twenty one days until opening day,

1605
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 2: and we normally go through some of the great Reds

1606
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 2: to wear the number twenty one, and so we're gonna

1607
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 2: give you a few of those and then we'll get

1608
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 2: to today's number. I mean, obviously Hunter Green, Michael Lorenzen,

1609
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 2: the Todd Father, Todd Frasier to wear number twenty one.

1610
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 2: Scott had a Berg, Sean Casey, the Mayor, Dion Sanders.

1611
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a Paul O'Neill. I mean this

1612
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 2: is a star studded Paul Householder, Eddie Milner, I mean,

1613
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 2: these are some all time great Reds that have won

1614
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 2: Warren the number twenty one. And I know Drew one

1615
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 2: of your favorites, Peanuts Lowry. Oh. Yes, back in nineteen forty,

1616
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty one, back for get forty four, we had

1617
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 2: Dick Sipek and Jojo White. What about Max Marshall, Jim Gleeson,

1618
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 2: Bill Hallahan, Sigh Johnson, Paul Daringer, and of course back

1619
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 2: in nineteen thirty two, Cliff Heathcote. Those guys all wore

1620
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 2: number twenty one. And then it gets pretty dog one

1621
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:40,439
Speaker 2: good with number twenty as well. When it comes to

1622
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 2: the Reds, we're talking guys like Chris Steins, Danny Jackson,

1623
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 2: Eddie Milner as well, Sazar Geronimo, part of the Big

1624
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 2: Red Machine, Frank Robinson, one of the best players that's

1625
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 2: ever played baseball. Ted Klezuski actually wore the number twenty

1626
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 2: early on in the late forties. Dane Clay Gene shot. Now,

1627
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 2: if this list is correct, no Red has worn the

1628
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 2: number twenty since nineteen ninety seven, and I'm racking my brain.

1629
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:19,640
Speaker 2: I guess that's true because of Frank Robinson, right, I

1630
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,800
Speaker 2: would think so, Frank Robinson or or Sazar Geronimo. And

1631
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 2: either way, not a number that is worn anymore by

1632
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 2: a Red But I guess I don't know if I'm

1633
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 2: just now thinking about it, but either way, that's the

1634
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 2: number as we are now twenty one days away from

1635
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 2: opening day. If you look at the list that we're

1636
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:43,559
Speaker 2: gonna miss over the weekend for the number nineteen, obviously

1637
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 2: Joey Vado for a long time, Chris Donorfia. Do you

1638
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:50,639
Speaker 2: remember Chris Donorfia. I can't say that I do. He

1639
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 2: used to hit homers and would like sprint around the bases.

1640
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:56,440
Speaker 2: Love that, but he didn't hit a lot of homers.

1641
01:26:56,680 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 2: Jeff co nine wore it actually the same year Joey

1642
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 2: Vado wore it. Bill Ran, Wayne Crin Chicky. That's a

1643
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:06,599
Speaker 2: name that gets floated out around a lot, the great

1644
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 2: Tommy Helms or number nineteen, Bobby Durnball, Larry Benton and others.

1645
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 2: And then of course number eighteen. That's another retired number

1646
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 2: that hasn't been worn since nineteen ninety seven, which of

1647
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 2: course for Ted Klezuski, who wore it so many years

1648
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 2: in the forties and fifties. Gordy Coleman wore it for

1649
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 2: a while as well, and of course Peaches Davis back

1650
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:33,599
Speaker 2: in nineteen thirty seven. Old Peaches Epa Rixie another famous

1651
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 2: Red for a long time. And then we'll get back

1652
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 2: into number seventeen later on in the likes of Double

1653
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 2: Joe Dwyer and Dazzy Vance and Ernie Lombardi and others.

1654
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 2: But twenty days away from Red's opening day when they

1655
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 2: take on the Boston Red Sox in at Great American Ballpark,

1656
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:56,919
Speaker 2: really quick an update on the World Baseball Classic. Mexico

1657
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:59,799
Speaker 2: leads Great Britain one to nothing going to the bottom

1658
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:03,639
Speaker 2: of the third inning in Houston. There was the final

1659
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 2: from earlier today. Cuba did beat Panama three to one

1660
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:11,760
Speaker 2: in that game and currently in the bottom of the

1661
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 2: fifth Venezuela holding a six to one lead over the

1662
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 2: Netherlands in pool play action. And as I said earlier,

1663
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 2: Aohaneo Suarez not in the starting lineup for Venezuela, but

1664
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 2: they are doing pretty dog on good Ronald Acunya Junior,

1665
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 2: which I can't believe of all the guys that have

1666
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 2: had insurance issues and contract guarantee problems. I can't believe

1667
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 2: Ronald Acuna Junior is playing in the World Baseball Classic,

1668
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 2: considering the amount of injuries that he has had over

1669
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 2: the last couple of years. But he has a double

1670
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 2: in this game and one hit so far in a

1671
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 2: walk in a lead off spot for Venezuela. More games

1672
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 2: coming up tonight. All right, there's some NFL news that

1673
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 2: we're gonna get to in our number three. There are

1674
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 2: a lot of cap casualties that are starting to hit

1675
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 2: the wire today. I expect the Bengals to be a

1676
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:08,599
Speaker 2: team that has a couple of those guys. I would

1677
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 2: expect at least two cap casualties that the Bengals will

1678
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 2: use to free up a little bit of money going

1679
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 2: into free agency. I expect that to be Orrin Burks,

1680
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 2: and I expect that to be Cody Ford. But none

1681
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:25,439
Speaker 2: of that is official yet. There's been some pretty good

1682
01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:30,599
Speaker 2: players let go today across the NFL. We will talk

1683
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 2: about that when we get to it, and more of

1684
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 2: the NFL stuff in our number three. We'll also talk

1685
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 2: to Tommy g here in about five minutes and Chad

1686
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 2: Brindle at two forty five for quick hits as Chad

1687
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 2: is in form this afternoon. That's all coming up next.

1688
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,680
Speaker 2: This is SINC three to sixty on the home of

1689
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:50,759
Speaker 2: the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty.

1690
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:57,600
Speaker 1: This is Tony Pikes since three sixty about Cincinnati. From Cincinnati.

1691
01:29:57,760 --> 01:30:02,439
Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen Cincinnati Sports Station.

1692
01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:06,400
Speaker 2: Hi, Hello, welcome in our number three on a Friday,

1693
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 2: a Friday edition here of SINCY three sixty and the

1694
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 2: start of our three means we talk to the voice

1695
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 2: of the Orange and Blue Tom Galaider, Tommy g joining

1696
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 2: us now for his typical Friday spot at two o'clock. Tommy, Tommy, Tommy,

1697
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:25,040
Speaker 2: how are we doing on this Friday afternoon? Happy Friday,

1698
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:27,599
Speaker 2: my friend. The weekend is looming. The sun is shining

1699
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 2: after all that rain all week.

1700
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:31,560
Speaker 16: Maybe maybe it'll dry up a little bit of but

1701
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:33,680
Speaker 16: life is good. We have a Sunday game on tap

1702
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:35,679
Speaker 16: of the Big Spotlight game from here. Yes soccer.

1703
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 2: So life's good, my friend, and I'm here with you

1704
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 2: in our number three.

1705
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:40,599
Speaker 16: I don't know where Pike d is whatever, worried about

1706
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:43,920
Speaker 16: that another day, but often running in our number three.

1707
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to ask you about the Sunday night

1708
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:48,679
Speaker 2: soccer in the spotlight in just a moment. But first

1709
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:52,800
Speaker 2: let's go back to what happened last weekend Minnesota. It

1710
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 2: was freezing cold. How much did that play a factor?

1711
01:30:56,600 --> 01:31:01,880
Speaker 2: And what really went wrong up there against Minnesota last weekend? Yeah,

1712
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 2: you know, I have a hard time.

1713
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 16: I mean, ponty fingers are feeling that the weather hadn't

1714
01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:06,360
Speaker 16: much of anything to do with.

1715
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 2: It, but both teams had to deal with it.

1716
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:11,200
Speaker 16: Is Minnesota more adjusted to it, maybe because they're there

1717
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:13,679
Speaker 16: all the time, sure or why not? But I don't

1718
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:16,240
Speaker 16: think that it has anything to do with the weather.

1719
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:18,599
Speaker 16: The team just frankly didn't play very well. Now they're

1720
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:21,040
Speaker 16: missing one of their best players in the vander But

1721
01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:23,559
Speaker 16: I thought the midfield didn't do enough in the game

1722
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:26,719
Speaker 16: and that Minnesotas midfield was better. And you know, maybe

1723
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:30,200
Speaker 16: that's where where Minnesota United won the match, you know,

1724
01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:33,400
Speaker 16: or at least kept from being very good that day.

1725
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 16: You know, they they won on a rebound that may

1726
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:38,720
Speaker 16: or maybe was not offside, but you know, probably not,

1727
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:41,559
Speaker 16: and that was the one opportunity, but they took advantage

1728
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 16: of it, and Fly Cincinnati had a couple opportunity to

1729
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:46,680
Speaker 16: score didn't take advantage. You know, a couple of good

1730
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:50,280
Speaker 16: says there by their goalkeeper, and the team just wasn't

1731
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:52,639
Speaker 16: good enough on un messing number two. And I think

1732
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:54,439
Speaker 16: you know, Patt Newton knew it. The guys knew it.

1733
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 16: And look it's earlier in the season. You hit the

1734
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 16: panic button after that. No, but you have an opportunity

1735
01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:00,000
Speaker 16: to come home and be better.

1736
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:03,439
Speaker 2: Well, on top of that, you mentioned everybody has to

1737
01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:07,080
Speaker 2: deal with it. That includes the broadcasters. And it felt

1738
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:12,480
Speaker 2: to me, Tommy, like one of you was woefully unprepared

1739
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:15,559
Speaker 2: for the cold. And of course we're talking about your partner, Kevin.

1740
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:18,880
Speaker 2: How much of an impact do you think that ad Yeah,

1741
01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:20,600
Speaker 2: I mean I think at times he was freezing. He

1742
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:24,360
Speaker 2: was freaking. He didn't want to admit it. He couldn't take.

1743
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:26,680
Speaker 16: His fingers had no color at one point because I

1744
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:28,479
Speaker 16: think the blood had stopped flowing to them. Because he

1745
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:31,000
Speaker 16: didn't bring gloves, and he thought it was funny that

1746
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 16: I brought gloves. I'm like, dude, it's twenty degrees and

1747
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:36,479
Speaker 16: feels like eleven. And you know some of these booths,

1748
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:39,439
Speaker 16: it's interesting, you know the more modern booths, which is

1749
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:43,360
Speaker 16: Minnesota Teko Stadium. You know, where it gets cold when

1750
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 16: you open windows. It's like the Dad rule, Like there's

1751
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:48,120
Speaker 16: a center in it and it cuts the heat off,

1752
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 16: so there's no heat pumping up there once the windows

1753
01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 16: are open. You know, like I yell my kids like

1754
01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:56,520
Speaker 16: they're standing with the door, like i't pay the heat outside,

1755
01:32:56,920 --> 01:32:57,280
Speaker 16: you know.

1756
01:32:57,479 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 2: Like shut the door.

1757
01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:01,760
Speaker 16: And so it's kind of like that that safety net,

1758
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:05,040
Speaker 16: which I get. You know, somewhere like we played a

1759
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:08,120
Speaker 16: game years ago, No Be's go Solcier Field where it

1760
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:09,800
Speaker 16: was similarly I think that was the previous record of

1761
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:11,640
Speaker 16: twenty two degrees in game time, and it felt like

1762
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:13,639
Speaker 16: ten or something along those lines. It was so cold,

1763
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:16,120
Speaker 16: and you know Chicago, you're there off the lake and

1764
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:18,760
Speaker 16: the winds whipping around, and they actually had these you

1765
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:20,920
Speaker 16: know kind of older school heaters. There a soldier field

1766
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:23,559
Speaker 16: like underneath the table, and I was toasted, Like it

1767
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:26,479
Speaker 16: was kind of comfortable, you know, considering how cold it was.

1768
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:29,160
Speaker 16: So you know, it depends Kevin wasn't that that game

1769
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:30,840
Speaker 16: and they guy had Omar Cummings. You know, it was

1770
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 16: like cool runnings for Omar on that one. But you know,

1771
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:37,360
Speaker 16: like so yeah, Kevin didn't bring gloves and he's wearing

1772
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:40,559
Speaker 16: like little ankle socks. What's the first thing that gets cold? Figure,

1773
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:42,920
Speaker 16: it's the first thing he gets cold, your feet, yep.

1774
01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:45,400
Speaker 16: And if you feed your cold, then what happens right

1775
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:47,280
Speaker 16: up your fine right ever, your body and you're all cold.

1776
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:49,559
Speaker 16: So you know he would tell you if he's here

1777
01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:51,840
Speaker 16: right now, he'd tell you he was fine. I think

1778
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 16: he was a little chilly, but we worked through it.

1779
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:57,600
Speaker 16: And you know, Kevin's a pro, so he delivered, you know,

1780
01:33:57,680 --> 01:33:59,240
Speaker 16: a plus performance despite the cold.

1781
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:01,519
Speaker 2: And on top of that, I mean it furthers the

1782
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:04,320
Speaker 2: importance of what you and I and Tony all know well,

1783
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 2: which is feet heat. Let's go to Evander. What's the

1784
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:11,759
Speaker 2: latest on Evander and his injury and do we expect

1785
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 2: him to be available this weekend?

1786
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:17,360
Speaker 16: Yeah, you know, kind of a waiting word as to

1787
01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:21,040
Speaker 16: exactly how much he will be available if he's dressed

1788
01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:22,960
Speaker 16: for the game, But he's been working his way back

1789
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:25,360
Speaker 16: through his rehab and you know, the good news was

1790
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 16: that the injury injury was not serious. Uh so you

1791
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:31,000
Speaker 16: know there's thought that he'll be available for this match

1792
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:33,719
Speaker 16: on the weekend, and you know, I think he certainly

1793
01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:35,960
Speaker 16: wants to be back out there and helping the team.

1794
01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 16: And listen, you're losing a guy who was a finalist

1795
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 16: for the MVP last year. So no matter who you

1796
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:45,640
Speaker 16: have stepping in for him, there's going to be a

1797
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:49,680
Speaker 16: drop off in quality at that position. And you know,

1798
01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:51,639
Speaker 16: I think Dotto had a tough game in Minnesota after

1799
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 16: he played pretty well the week before against Atlanta. If

1800
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:57,160
Speaker 16: it's dot O again in the starting role, and then

1801
01:34:57,240 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 16: certainly he'll be prepared and probably learned from that game Minnesota.

1802
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 16: It's asked how he can be better and be more

1803
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:04,800
Speaker 16: like he was in the Atlanta game. And if Evander's back,

1804
01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:06,720
Speaker 16: then that's great news because you're getting, you know, one

1805
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:09,240
Speaker 16: of the best at that position in the entire league

1806
01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:12,160
Speaker 16: back out onto the pitch. So good news is it's

1807
01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:14,639
Speaker 16: not long term and Evanders should be back out there soon.

1808
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 2: I also saw the move announced yesterday with Liverpool, which

1809
01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:22,080
Speaker 2: of course one of the biggest, if not the biggest

1810
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:26,639
Speaker 2: clubs in the world. FC Cincinnati acquiring a goalkeeper. What

1811
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:30,519
Speaker 2: can you tell us about Fabian Morosick? Did I say

1812
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 2: that correctly? I don't know how to say his name. Yeah,

1813
01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:33,719
Speaker 2: that's close.

1814
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 16: Listen, he comes in as another opportunity to add some

1815
01:35:38,240 --> 01:35:42,280
Speaker 16: depth for this actually Cincinnati goalkeeping unit.

1816
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:44,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think you got.

1817
01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 16: It right though, Merosick, Okay, with emphasis on the row Morosick, Yeah,

1818
01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:52,559
Speaker 16: twenty two years old young goalkeeper. You know, they they

1819
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:55,560
Speaker 16: have a great goalkeeping room. Obviously, Roman celth Town on

1820
01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:58,240
Speaker 16: your pro and Hevin Laurel has proven to be a

1821
01:35:58,240 --> 01:36:02,240
Speaker 16: great backup in that number two slot. But Paul Walters,

1822
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:05,240
Speaker 16: who's a great young goalkeeper that has been there. You know,

1823
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:08,599
Speaker 16: the thought is that Paul needs to play games, and so.

1824
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 2: He's out on loan.

1825
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:12,599
Speaker 16: He's over in Ireland getting opportunities to play and reps

1826
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:14,800
Speaker 16: this season, which leaves you with a bit of a

1827
01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:17,960
Speaker 16: hole as to who is that third goalkeeper in the event.

1828
01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:20,880
Speaker 16: You know that what Evan started four games last year

1829
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:24,080
Speaker 16: when Roman was hurt. You know, if Roman or Evan

1830
01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 16: were to have to miss the time, then who moves

1831
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:30,599
Speaker 16: up a slot? And so they bring in Fabian and

1832
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:34,000
Speaker 16: and he'll be that number three goalkeeper. But yeah, I

1833
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:36,439
Speaker 16: mean obviously when you see that that he's on loan

1834
01:36:36,479 --> 01:36:40,160
Speaker 16: from Liverpool of the Premiership, that'll that'll catch your attention

1835
01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:43,200
Speaker 16: really quickly. And you know, a young goalkeeper that I'm

1836
01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:45,880
Speaker 16: sure Liverpool wants to see get some experience. I would

1837
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:48,000
Speaker 16: imagine he'll gets some starts with the two team, probably

1838
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:51,519
Speaker 16: without having asked anybody, but there'll be an opportunity for

1839
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:54,280
Speaker 16: him to play there and you know, provide quality and

1840
01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:56,800
Speaker 16: depth and and learn under Paul Rodgers, who you know,

1841
01:36:56,840 --> 01:36:58,880
Speaker 16: if you talk to Pat Noon and you know, he'll

1842
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:00,840
Speaker 16: tell you that Paul's the best goalkeep for coaching the league.

1843
01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 16: And Paul's obviously proven to be an amazing asset for

1844
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:05,040
Speaker 16: his team since he joined the club.

1845
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:08,439
Speaker 2: When Pat did talking to Tom Gallader, the voice of

1846
01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:11,960
Speaker 2: FC Cincinnati, FC Cincinnati Back in Action coming up on

1847
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:14,479
Speaker 2: Sunday Night. More on that in a moment, Tommy, what

1848
01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 2: was your reaction when you saw this week that a

1849
01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:21,320
Speaker 2: fan favorite, Hyuyah Kubo announced that he's retiring from soccer.

1850
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:22,040
Speaker 2: What did you think?

1851
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:24,439
Speaker 16: Yeah, a little bit interesting, right thirty one years old

1852
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:27,559
Speaker 16: they decided to call it quits. You know, you're yeah,

1853
01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:31,640
Speaker 16: just a great citizen, great role model. I think had

1854
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:34,120
Speaker 16: had an awesome career with that C Cincinnati played all

1855
01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:36,519
Speaker 16: types of different roles, right, I mean played everywhere except

1856
01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:39,120
Speaker 16: of think center back and goalkeeper during his time with that.

1857
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:41,640
Speaker 16: She Cincinnati, came in more as an attacking player or

1858
01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:44,960
Speaker 16: a striker, you know, developed more into the midfield, played

1859
01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:46,759
Speaker 16: as a winger when that was available in the system,

1860
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:50,320
Speaker 16: played at wing back, you know, and always with someone

1861
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:52,200
Speaker 16: who you knew would work hard and give you his

1862
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:55,360
Speaker 16: best effort, you know, without having talked to you, Yesnce,

1863
01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:57,240
Speaker 16: but I think he just kind of decided, like he's

1864
01:37:57,400 --> 01:38:00,360
Speaker 16: done this professional thing. He's made a good way, you know,

1865
01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:04,519
Speaker 16: across his career in different countries, and that I am

1866
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:06,439
Speaker 16: sure that they were in a left teams calling his

1867
01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 16: agent and trying to get him involved, and you know,

1868
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:11,840
Speaker 16: they're becoming He has a couple of kids, has a dog.

1869
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:14,800
Speaker 16: Now if you follow up on social media here seems

1870
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:17,639
Speaker 16: to be having a great time training and taking around town,

1871
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:19,719
Speaker 16: taking off for pup cups and all that kind of stuff.

1872
01:38:20,479 --> 01:38:22,439
Speaker 16: You know, I think that he made a decision that

1873
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:25,120
Speaker 16: he's gonna slow down life a little bit. You know,

1874
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:27,000
Speaker 16: when I did some games with Ray Gattis a couple

1875
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 16: of years ago, you know, Ray told me about just

1876
01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:31,400
Speaker 16: how much he enjoyed conversations. You know, he would that

1877
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:34,040
Speaker 16: would be the guy uh yu yah that that they

1878
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:36,160
Speaker 16: would go aside kind of as veteran.

1879
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:39,120
Speaker 2: Guys with kids, you know, away from you.

1880
01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:42,200
Speaker 16: Know, some of the noise and chatter and youth of

1881
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:43,880
Speaker 16: a locker room, and they would go, you know, do

1882
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:46,439
Speaker 16: their do their time in the training room together or

1883
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:49,559
Speaker 16: nicole tub together? That he really enjoys conversations with you. Yeah,

1884
01:38:49,960 --> 01:38:52,439
Speaker 16: and I think that that walk. He was a quiet

1885
01:38:52,439 --> 01:38:54,240
Speaker 16: guy in the field. You saw how much he enjoyed

1886
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:56,679
Speaker 16: playing here. And you know, it was an important pieces

1887
01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:59,599
Speaker 16: of puzzle in the early years when it wasn't very

1888
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:01,439
Speaker 16: good and stuck it out and got to be part

1889
01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:02,840
Speaker 16: of some pretty good teams as well.

1890
01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:08,320
Speaker 2: FC Cincinnati beck on the pitch against Toronto this weekend.

1891
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:11,920
Speaker 2: Before we get into what all is entails in a

1892
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:15,200
Speaker 2: Sunday night soccer matchup, give us the scouting report on

1893
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:16,280
Speaker 2: Toronto this year.

1894
01:39:17,080 --> 01:39:19,360
Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean, Toronto's starting a season with three straight

1895
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:22,800
Speaker 16: road games. They've lost their first two. There's some renovations

1896
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:24,519
Speaker 16: going on at Beamlefield where.

1897
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:27,240
Speaker 2: They play in a dance of the World Cup.

1898
01:39:27,439 --> 01:39:29,960
Speaker 16: So so they're starting with three straight road games this year, Austin,

1899
01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:31,639
Speaker 16: excuse me, and.

1900
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:33,519
Speaker 2: You know, so they've lost their first two.

1901
01:39:33,680 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 16: That their team that didn't do well last year struggled

1902
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:39,519
Speaker 16: towards the bottom of the Eastern Conference and Robin Fraser

1903
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 16: now and in the second year leading them, trying to

1904
01:39:41,520 --> 01:39:44,400
Speaker 16: trying to get them rolling. They just signed Josh Sargent

1905
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:47,960
Speaker 16: on you know massive you know, incoming transfer fee that

1906
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:51,360
Speaker 16: they paid for Josh. So that was, you know, really big.

1907
01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:53,200
Speaker 16: Is someone's gonna be part of the World Cup team

1908
01:39:53,200 --> 01:39:55,559
Speaker 16: this summer. And they have other players on that roster

1909
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:58,439
Speaker 16: who could be part of it. Georgie Mohalovich, Walker Zimmerman,

1910
01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:00,679
Speaker 16: you know, has spent a lot of time the national team.

1911
01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:04,639
Speaker 16: He comes over from Nashville. They have quality players on

1912
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:06,439
Speaker 16: this team. They just haven't been able to put it together.

1913
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:08,280
Speaker 16: But we see Josh Sargent this weekend. I don't know

1914
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:10,640
Speaker 16: why he wouldn't be here. He does not have a

1915
01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:12,839
Speaker 16: you know, doesn't have to figure out a visa situation

1916
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:15,640
Speaker 16: and the US nationalizeditism, you know what I mean, Like

1917
01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:19,479
Speaker 16: he does. He doesn't need to you know, figure out

1918
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:21,960
Speaker 16: any any visa or any paperwork or anything along those lines.

1919
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:23,960
Speaker 16: So I'd imagine that Josh Sargeant at the very worst

1920
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:30,360
Speaker 16: is dressed for this game for Toronto. And you know, again,

1921
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:33,400
Speaker 16: I think that they are a good team that has talent,

1922
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:35,120
Speaker 16: but it's probably gonna take him a few weeks to

1923
01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:37,599
Speaker 16: put all together, especially with a new superstar coming into

1924
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:37,920
Speaker 16: the mix.

1925
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:40,200
Speaker 2: Hopefully that's not Sunday Night as they figure it out.

1926
01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:43,200
Speaker 16: But it's a team that actually since I should be

1927
01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:46,960
Speaker 16: you know, on paper, you know, and I think that

1928
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:49,680
Speaker 16: this month, with the chaos of Tea Grace now in

1929
01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:52,640
Speaker 16: the schedule and and a trip to Mexico, you know,

1930
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:56,280
Speaker 16: with Counkyft Championship coming up, that that the MLS slate

1931
01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:59,720
Speaker 16: sets up well for usually Cincinnati, for for trying to

1932
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:02,280
Speaker 16: get points around this other competition.

1933
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:05,160
Speaker 2: I would say, looking back on the Minnesota game and

1934
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:07,719
Speaker 2: the fact that they kind of just didn't play very good,

1935
01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:13,360
Speaker 2: do you feel like those are easily correctable mistakes? Yeah, no,

1936
01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:13,880
Speaker 2: I think so.

1937
01:41:14,160 --> 01:41:16,439
Speaker 16: I think, you know, there was a little bit of

1938
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:19,040
Speaker 16: lack of creativity in the final third. Some of the

1939
01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:21,479
Speaker 16: last passes weren't they The team just wasn't very sharp

1940
01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:23,720
Speaker 16: in the game, and I think, all right, well, you

1941
01:41:23,720 --> 01:41:25,760
Speaker 16: can lick your wounds and be upset about it, will

1942
01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:27,960
Speaker 16: come home and turn it around right and then play

1943
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:29,120
Speaker 16: more like you did against Atlanta.

1944
01:41:29,160 --> 01:41:32,040
Speaker 2: If you do that, then you should win the game. Finally,

1945
01:41:32,240 --> 01:41:36,240
Speaker 2: it is a Sunday night game, which is a big

1946
01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:38,679
Speaker 2: thing that Major League Soccer is pushing. It's a seven

1947
01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:42,720
Speaker 2: pm kickoff at TQL Stadium. What all does Sunday Night

1948
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:47,559
Speaker 2: Soccer the spotlight entail at TQL Stadium this weekend.

1949
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 16: Well, you know, if you're at home and you're watching

1950
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:52,200
Speaker 16: on Apple TV and you're switching over the home radio option,

1951
01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:54,879
Speaker 16: you know, it gives you, i think, an enhanced production,

1952
01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:57,320
Speaker 16: the bringing out extra cameras, a little more bells and whistles,

1953
01:41:57,560 --> 01:42:00,120
Speaker 16: a little more like you probably saw, you know in

1954
01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:03,679
Speaker 16: the playoffs with Columbus or even the match against Miami.

1955
01:42:03,680 --> 01:42:05,800
Speaker 16: It brings out their top broadcast team, you know, and

1956
01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:08,880
Speaker 16: Jake Zivin and Taylor Twelveman and my friend Gillian soccer Witch.

1957
01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:11,559
Speaker 16: You're not gonna go wrong either way, you know, fantastic crew.

1958
01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:14,000
Speaker 16: You not that I want anybody not turning as on

1959
01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:16,800
Speaker 16: on everybody, but but those guys are awesome as well.

1960
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 16: That's the you know, some of my favorite people in

1961
01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:20,400
Speaker 16: Major League Soccer come in and called it. That's their

1962
01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:22,840
Speaker 16: eighteam from a broadcast standpoint, those are people that do

1963
01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 16: MLS Cup and do the biggest playoff games and every

1964
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:27,400
Speaker 16: Sunday get to do the biggest game, so you know

1965
01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:29,720
Speaker 16: a little more pomping circumstance in that regards at seven

1966
01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:33,600
Speaker 16: o'clock kickoff, and the spotlight shines brightly, uh you know

1967
01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:36,160
Speaker 16: on TQOS Stadium, which always shines, you know when that

1968
01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:36,880
Speaker 16: is the case.

1969
01:42:37,080 --> 01:42:39,160
Speaker 2: So now it should be fun, you know.

1970
01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:41,000
Speaker 16: She ss how you play a couple Sunday games now

1971
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:43,719
Speaker 16: with the way the schedule stacks up because of COCKCAFT

1972
01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:46,320
Speaker 16: Champions Cup, you know, and and giving them a little

1973
01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:48,400
Speaker 16: more time to recover after some Thursday games to play

1974
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:51,000
Speaker 16: a bunch of Sunday games. But you know, I think

1975
01:42:51,160 --> 01:42:53,040
Speaker 16: I think it's good, and you know, it's an honor

1976
01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:54,880
Speaker 16: because trying to think about it, last year, I don't

1977
01:42:54,920 --> 01:42:57,880
Speaker 16: think f C Cincinnati hosted it Sunday night, you know,

1978
01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:00,160
Speaker 16: so it was till the end of the day he's in.

1979
01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:01,759
Speaker 2: Last year, I think there's only one at home.

1980
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:04,479
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think they match had a land on the

1981
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:06,320
Speaker 16: road and maybe there's one other on the road.

1982
01:43:07,720 --> 01:43:08,400
Speaker 2: Where we had that.

1983
01:43:08,560 --> 01:43:10,479
Speaker 16: But yeah, it was only once at home last year

1984
01:43:10,479 --> 01:43:12,559
Speaker 16: and it wasn't until later in the season. I think

1985
01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:15,599
Speaker 16: it was actually when I got flexed into a Sunday match.

1986
01:43:16,760 --> 01:43:19,320
Speaker 16: So yeah that I mean, obviously they understand the quality

1987
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:22,000
Speaker 16: of FCS and Sandy and and you know, everybody knows

1988
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:24,280
Speaker 16: what the atmosphere is like, so it presents well on television.

1989
01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:27,280
Speaker 2: Well, if there's one thing that this city loves, not

1990
01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:29,800
Speaker 2: only is it a big game, but if I'm not mistaken,

1991
01:43:29,960 --> 01:43:36,280
Speaker 2: isn't it also a Bobblehead night this year? Evander Bobblehead Night.

1992
01:43:36,479 --> 01:43:39,360
Speaker 2: I mean that's big time stuff. Well, this is eleven

1993
01:43:39,439 --> 01:43:41,519
Speaker 2: years of franchise, its first tithing given on a bible head.

1994
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:43,120
Speaker 2: That's what I was about to say. Yeah, I don't

1995
01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:44,679
Speaker 2: remember that being a thing in the past.

1996
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:47,960
Speaker 16: No, it's pretty sharp. Has the new Seven Hills kid

1997
01:43:48,080 --> 01:43:50,800
Speaker 16: on for the bibblehead. So yeah, fans got to get

1998
01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:53,160
Speaker 16: there early on Sunday. Don't don't really deal on your

1999
01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:55,360
Speaker 16: way over there. You know, I got to get into

2000
01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:59,040
Speaker 16: the building first, ten thousand fans, So Kevin and I'll

2001
01:43:59,080 --> 01:43:59,400
Speaker 16: be at.

2002
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:01,200
Speaker 2: The gates early to make sure that we have one

2003
01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:03,800
Speaker 2: up in the booth. And no, it should be pretty cool.

2004
01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:06,720
Speaker 2: And now that this has happened and the damn is

2005
01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:10,200
Speaker 2: is now open, have you begun petitioning for you and Kevin?

2006
01:44:10,280 --> 01:44:14,240
Speaker 16: Bobblehead well, I mean, you know, I sit here in

2007
01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:17,880
Speaker 16: my office and you know there's a Marty and and

2008
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:20,200
Speaker 16: Tom bobblehead, right Reds did years ago.

2009
01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:22,200
Speaker 2: Let's sit here, there's a U.

2010
01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:26,040
Speaker 16: There's a Tom Hamilton for sure at the time, you know,

2011
01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:29,599
Speaker 16: now the Guardians, but actually have two Tom Hamilton bobble

2012
01:44:30,640 --> 01:44:33,280
Speaker 16: and Tom one of them at least plays audio, you know,

2013
01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:35,960
Speaker 16: and then and then uh, you know, I have a

2014
01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:40,360
Speaker 16: Cleveland Cavaliers Joe Tate. It's a bobble microphone that plays

2015
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:42,800
Speaker 16: plays some of his greatest calls. So, I mean the

2016
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:45,479
Speaker 16: pressing set is my point. Sure, yeah, I.

2017
01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:48,280
Speaker 2: Mean, do you maybe just kind of moose move those

2018
01:44:48,320 --> 01:44:51,000
Speaker 2: to the front and put them on your desk for people,

2019
01:44:51,120 --> 01:44:53,519
Speaker 2: you know, passing by, just to see. And it's probably

2020
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:56,439
Speaker 2: a good idea. Yeah, He's probably it's probably a good idea.

2021
01:44:56,960 --> 01:44:59,280
Speaker 16: There's been a couple of limited edition Tommy G bobbleheads

2022
01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:01,639
Speaker 16: all the time, one of one Wow, that have been.

2023
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:03,840
Speaker 2: They have been created. They're pretty they're pretty nice.

2024
01:45:03,880 --> 01:45:05,880
Speaker 16: Okay, so you know, I know these things take a

2025
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:07,680
Speaker 16: little bit of lead time, so I don't know if

2026
01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:09,760
Speaker 16: you're realistic for the second half the season, but you know,

2027
01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:12,479
Speaker 16: if not, maybe maybe next year for year number twelve.

2028
01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:16,120
Speaker 2: Well, as long as Kevin's side features him wearing ankle socks,

2029
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:20,000
Speaker 2: that would be the most important key. Yeah, absolutely got

2030
01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:22,720
Speaker 2: that right, Tommy G. On the call coming up this

2031
01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:26,960
Speaker 2: weekend Sunday night, I believe six thirty airtime right here

2032
01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:30,160
Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty. Tommy, thank you so much for

2033
01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:33,920
Speaker 2: making some time have fun this weekend. I appreciate it. Yeah, Austin,

2034
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:36,200
Speaker 2: My pleasure is always. Let's do it again next week.

2035
01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:40,320
Speaker 2: Can't wait. That is Tommy G. The voice of FC Cincinnati.

2036
01:45:40,439 --> 01:45:43,040
Speaker 2: Our three continues next right here on the Home of

2037
01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:46,439
Speaker 2: the Bengals and the Home of FC Cincinnati, ESPN fifteen thirty.

2038
01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:55,080
Speaker 2: The show is flying by today since e three sixty

2039
01:45:55,160 --> 01:45:59,559
Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm Austin Elmore. Phone lines open

2040
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:02,800
Speaker 2: again five three seven, four nine, fifteen thirty. We'll get

2041
01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:05,000
Speaker 2: back to the phones in just a minute, but before

2042
01:46:05,120 --> 01:46:08,800
Speaker 2: we do an update some of the latest going on

2043
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:11,800
Speaker 2: in the NFL today. There's been a few moves. The

2044
01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:17,360
Speaker 2: Los Angeles Chargers signed center Tyler Biattish, the former Dallas Cowboys,

2045
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:20,160
Speaker 2: been with the Washington Commanders the last couple of years.

2046
01:46:20,200 --> 01:46:22,080
Speaker 2: He was a cap casualty, so he was able to

2047
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:26,680
Speaker 2: negotiate and he signed with the Los Angeles Chargers, who

2048
01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:30,760
Speaker 2: are desperately trying to rebuild their offensive line. Meanwhile, the

2049
01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 2: New England Patriots reached an agreement today with Tommy DeVito.

2050
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:37,599
Speaker 2: Tommy Cutlets returns to New England. It's a two year

2051
01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:40,680
Speaker 2: deal worth seven and a half million dollars with two

2052
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:45,640
Speaker 2: million guaranteed for Old Tommy Cutlets. The Miami Dolphins and

2053
01:46:46,040 --> 01:46:50,000
Speaker 2: alec Ingold, They're great fullback are parting ways. According to

2054
01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:53,559
Speaker 2: Mike Garafolo of NFL Network, Ingold was a pro bowler

2055
01:46:54,040 --> 01:46:57,479
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. Additionally, Miami is moving on

2056
01:46:57,640 --> 01:47:02,280
Speaker 2: from kicker Jason Sanders. He can't seem to get on

2057
01:47:02,360 --> 01:47:04,880
Speaker 2: the same page as the Dolphins on a contract. He

2058
01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:07,960
Speaker 2: had made twenty seven straight field goals to end his

2059
01:47:08,120 --> 01:47:12,960
Speaker 2: Dolphins career, including nine of nine in his last fifty plus.

2060
01:47:13,680 --> 01:47:15,840
Speaker 2: Pretty amazing by the way, alec Ingold, he was the

2061
01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:19,800
Speaker 2: highest paid fullback in the NFL last year and could

2062
01:47:19,880 --> 01:47:26,439
Speaker 2: be again. Meanwhile, what else is going on the Bills?

2063
01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:31,040
Speaker 2: The Bills have released two notable names. The first is

2064
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:35,040
Speaker 2: cornerback Terren Johnson. Tarren Johnson is one of the best

2065
01:47:35,479 --> 01:47:37,559
Speaker 2: cornerbacks in the league, has spent a lot of time

2066
01:47:37,640 --> 01:47:41,639
Speaker 2: as a starter for Buffalo. They've also released wide receiver

2067
01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:44,600
Speaker 2: Curtis Samuel, the former Ohio State buck Guy. One of

2068
01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:48,640
Speaker 2: my favorite players. Curtis Samuel is let go. Meanwhile, back

2069
01:47:48,680 --> 01:47:51,759
Speaker 2: to Taron Johnson. He started eighty seven games for Buffalo.

2070
01:47:51,880 --> 01:47:54,760
Speaker 2: He was an All Pro in twenty twenty three. And

2071
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:57,759
Speaker 2: if you watched Aaron Rodgers' appearance on the Pat McAfee

2072
01:47:57,920 --> 01:48:01,439
Speaker 2: show just the other day, Rodgers was talking very highly

2073
01:48:01,520 --> 01:48:04,639
Speaker 2: of Tarren Johnson called him one of the best players

2074
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:08,799
Speaker 2: in the league. Meanwhile, the Detroit Lions and left tackle

2075
01:48:08,960 --> 01:48:14,280
Speaker 2: Taylor Decker are parting ways. Decker announced on his social

2076
01:48:14,360 --> 01:48:19,000
Speaker 2: media that he and the Lions are parting ways. He

2077
01:48:19,160 --> 01:48:24,599
Speaker 2: requested and received his release after contract talks broke down.

2078
01:48:24,680 --> 01:48:27,080
Speaker 2: That's a big, big one for them. Another former Buckeye.

2079
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:30,640
Speaker 2: I actually played against Taylor Decker in high school. I

2080
01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:34,519
Speaker 2: did not get to the quarterback. Who else? What else

2081
01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:38,559
Speaker 2: is going on in the world. Rashawn Gary defensive lineman

2082
01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:41,479
Speaker 2: slash linebacker for the Green Bay Packers. He has posted

2083
01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:45,519
Speaker 2: his goodbye to Green Bay. He's due nineteen and a

2084
01:48:45,560 --> 01:48:48,000
Speaker 2: half million dollars in twenty twenty six. None of it

2085
01:48:48,120 --> 01:48:51,600
Speaker 2: is guaranteed. He's been the subject of trade talks. He

2086
01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:56,280
Speaker 2: says his time with the Packers is over, but no

2087
01:48:56,479 --> 01:49:00,639
Speaker 2: decision has been officially made by the Green Bay Packers

2088
01:49:01,120 --> 01:49:04,680
Speaker 2: when it comes to Rashan Gary and he's then deleted

2089
01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:08,439
Speaker 2: from Instagram his goodbye to Green Bay. So there's a

2090
01:49:08,479 --> 01:49:11,559
Speaker 2: lot of moving parts going on in the NFL right now.

2091
01:49:11,680 --> 01:49:16,559
Speaker 2: It will all continue to heat up over the weekend

2092
01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:21,160
Speaker 2: as we get into legal tampering period and then free

2093
01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:24,720
Speaker 2: agency next week. Let's go to the phones five one, three, seven,

2094
01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:28,599
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Let's talk to Mike in La. What up, Mike?

2095
01:49:30,240 --> 01:49:33,560
Speaker 13: Hey, Thanks tho, enjoying the show. Oh I beg my

2096
01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:38,560
Speaker 13: pardon before I get to the Reds real quick. You

2097
01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:41,479
Speaker 13: mentioned the Chargers. They're gonna have two all pro tackles

2098
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:44,280
Speaker 13: coming back this year, mister Slater and mister Alt. So

2099
01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:47,360
Speaker 13: we got a good jump on tackles this year. Yeah,

2100
01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:53,880
Speaker 13: and uh they're both premium quality guys. Uh, which takes

2101
01:49:53,920 --> 01:49:55,720
Speaker 13: me over to the rum. I'm still giddy about the

2102
01:49:55,880 --> 01:49:58,840
Speaker 13: Rams getting mccuffee. I'm just so giddy about this. That

2103
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:03,200
Speaker 13: was such a wonderful trade that the Rams made. And

2104
01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:06,120
Speaker 13: he's only twenty five years old, Austin. I mean, the

2105
01:50:06,160 --> 01:50:10,920
Speaker 13: guy's still young. No, Kansas City had their needs, I guess,

2106
01:50:11,040 --> 01:50:14,200
Speaker 13: and uh, thank god the Rams were able to jump

2107
01:50:14,439 --> 01:50:15,639
Speaker 13: into that with both feet.

2108
01:50:16,080 --> 01:50:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's just it's that philosophy that the Chiefs have

2109
01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:22,000
Speaker 2: have kind of always followed, at least since Andy Reid

2110
01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:24,040
Speaker 2: and Brett Viach have been working together, which is they

2111
01:50:24,080 --> 01:50:26,520
Speaker 2: don't really spend a lot of money on the cornerback.

2112
01:50:26,200 --> 01:50:30,040
Speaker 13: Room, yep. And since they got my home, that's that

2113
01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:35,680
Speaker 13: that changed everything, right. The uh. The other the other

2114
01:50:35,800 --> 01:50:38,320
Speaker 13: real rumor out here is that if Nick Vey's going

2115
01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:41,120
Speaker 13: all in to get this ring this year because it

2116
01:50:41,200 --> 01:50:44,200
Speaker 13: might be Stafford's last year, and if he gets a ring,

2117
01:50:44,920 --> 01:50:46,960
Speaker 13: rumor is he's going to the He's going to the

2118
01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:50,519
Speaker 13: Boots will either CBS or Fox, and he's gonna get

2119
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:53,200
Speaker 13: out of coaching and unless he doesn't win it and

2120
01:50:53,280 --> 01:50:55,880
Speaker 13: then I'll come back. Evidently, That's that's the rumor.

2121
01:50:56,439 --> 01:50:58,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I could see that they he started

2122
01:50:58,400 --> 01:51:00,639
Speaker 2: with that after they beat the Bengals in Super Bowl

2123
01:51:00,760 --> 01:51:03,240
Speaker 2: fifty six, and I think there was some concern about,

2124
01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:05,639
Speaker 2: you know, just some of the burnout and he's he's

2125
01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:09,720
Speaker 2: got a young child and just all this time that

2126
01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:13,599
Speaker 2: is required of a head coach in the NFL. So yeah,

2127
01:51:13,600 --> 01:51:15,920
Speaker 2: I think that's very much a possibility, maybe as long

2128
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:17,920
Speaker 2: as Stafford goes that McVeigh is around.

2129
01:51:19,120 --> 01:51:21,360
Speaker 13: Yeah, and he was probably what eighteen years old at

2130
01:51:21,439 --> 01:51:21,760
Speaker 13: the time.

2131
01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:25,120
Speaker 10: I mean, he's so young.

2132
01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:28,360
Speaker 13: So are you hearing Alex Pearce might go to the

2133
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Speaker 13: pass now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard that. There's a lot of interest in that.

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Speaker 2: I actually was just reading something this morning that they

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Speaker 2: they're prepared to offer him quite a lot of money

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Speaker 2: to be their guy.

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Speaker 10: You like it?

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01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:44,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes sense. I mean I think they still

2140
01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:46,919
Speaker 2: need some help as far as their wide receivers are concerned,

2141
01:51:48,400 --> 01:51:50,560
Speaker 2: and I think a little bit more production out of

2142
01:51:50,600 --> 01:51:53,240
Speaker 2: the tight end spot, like their offense needs work. But

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Speaker 2: just adding somebody like that who can immediately beat you

2144
01:51:57,280 --> 01:52:00,400
Speaker 2: over the top defenses have to respect, that'll help it

2145
01:52:00,479 --> 01:52:01,240
Speaker 2: make everybody better.

2146
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Speaker 13: I'm glad they got rid of Diggs. I think I've

2147
01:52:04,479 --> 01:52:06,360
Speaker 13: never been a big Digs guy. I just never have.

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Speaker 13: Uh So, I don't think that that really hurts New

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01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:15,560
Speaker 13: England losing Digs not really The Reds well, Hey, you

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01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:18,679
Speaker 13: you slammed me on on uh you know who yesterday,

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01:52:18,760 --> 01:52:19,840
Speaker 13: and I.

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01:52:19,920 --> 01:52:21,640
Speaker 2: Know I've been waiting for you to bring it up.

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01:52:21,680 --> 01:52:23,160
Speaker 2: I thought that's what you were going to lead with.

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01:52:24,240 --> 01:52:26,560
Speaker 13: Well, no, I don't want to be a stirk. I

2155
01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:30,000
Speaker 13: don't want to act like that, but crow Crow is

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01:52:30,160 --> 01:52:32,320
Speaker 13: kind of nasty just right.

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01:52:33,200 --> 01:52:36,200
Speaker 2: I mean, he launched those two baseballs, now he got yeah,

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01:52:36,320 --> 01:52:39,000
Speaker 2: got some help from the wind, got some help from

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01:52:39,040 --> 01:52:41,720
Speaker 2: the wind. But it was pretty funny for him and

2160
01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:43,240
Speaker 2: Simzel both to hit homers.

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Speaker 13: Probably either one of those guys will probably make the team.

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01:52:46,880 --> 01:52:49,800
Speaker 2: But you know, it sounds like it sounds like going

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01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:52,360
Speaker 2: to make the Yeah, Dave Roberts. Roberts. Dave Roberts has

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01:52:52,439 --> 01:52:53,200
Speaker 2: basically said it.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I know he loves him. But they've got a

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01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:58,920
Speaker 13: lot of depth on the endfield, so we'll see hopefully.

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01:52:58,960 --> 01:53:01,760
Speaker 13: I you know, I like the guy, but that's that's

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Speaker 13: just my opinion.

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Speaker 2: Is he going to play first base? Is that where

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Speaker 2: he's going to play most of the time.

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Speaker 13: Oh, he's not going to start at all?

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01:53:09,080 --> 01:53:14,080
Speaker 2: Okay, is Freeman's not heard? Is he Freeman's fine heart?

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01:53:14,560 --> 01:53:19,519
Speaker 13: Tommy Edmonds will play second uh in the muki at

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01:53:19,520 --> 01:53:24,000
Speaker 13: shortened Max at third. Max was the only regular of

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01:53:24,120 --> 01:53:26,880
Speaker 13: the Dodgers have played in that game yesterday. Everybody else

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01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:30,760
Speaker 13: was either rookies or one of these or whatever. And

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Speaker 13: the same way with the seven six or seven pitchers

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Speaker 13: they use. None of those guys will be on the

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Speaker 13: team this year, none of them. So I'm not poopooing

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01:53:39,800 --> 01:53:42,400
Speaker 13: on fourteen runs of the Reds, but the Dodgers had

2181
01:53:42,479 --> 01:53:45,640
Speaker 13: definitely the junior varsity team playing well.

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01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:48,680
Speaker 2: Everybody cares more about spring training results than anything that

2183
01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:51,000
Speaker 2: happened in a wildcard round. I can tell you that much.

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Speaker 18: I know, I know.

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Speaker 13: That's what's so hilarious about all right, guys, I appreciate

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01:53:57,160 --> 01:53:58,360
Speaker 13: your time, Thank you so much.

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01:53:59,479 --> 01:54:02,960
Speaker 2: That is Mike h in Los Angeles. Now I'm seeing

2188
01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:07,800
Speaker 2: as that conversation was happening with Mike that Rob Damofski

2189
01:54:07,920 --> 01:54:13,759
Speaker 2: Friend of the Show, uh said that Rashon Gary deleted

2190
01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:18,280
Speaker 2: his goodbye to the Green Bay Packers from his Instagram

2191
01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:22,639
Speaker 2: account and according to a source to Rob Damofsky, Rashan

2192
01:54:22,760 --> 01:54:25,960
Speaker 2: Gary has been told he has not been he will

2193
01:54:26,040 --> 01:54:30,320
Speaker 2: not be released or traded, and that his Instagram account

2194
01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:35,000
Speaker 2: was hacked. Oh there it is. What is going on?

2195
01:54:36,080 --> 01:54:39,480
Speaker 2: What are we talking about we're hacking Instagrams to say goodbyes?

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01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:42,440
Speaker 2: If so, I mean, that's a good kind of hack, right, Like,

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01:54:42,520 --> 01:54:43,360
Speaker 2: that's kind of funny.

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Speaker 3: If I was my account was ever going to actually

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Speaker 3: be hacked, If all it was was a goodbye that

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01:54:47,920 --> 01:54:50,000
Speaker 3: didn't happen, you skated by pretty good.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's pretty funny. That's that's really funny. Okay,

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01:54:55,160 --> 01:54:58,880
Speaker 2: all right. When we come back, Drew's gonna give us

2203
01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:02,360
Speaker 2: the Reds lineup for today. We'll also go over the

2204
01:55:02,440 --> 01:55:06,200
Speaker 2: weekend sports calendar. There's a lot going on, and a

2205
01:55:06,320 --> 01:55:08,760
Speaker 2: phone line still open as well. Five one, three, seven,

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01:55:08,920 --> 01:55:13,400
Speaker 2: four nine, fifteen thirty is the phone number. Our three

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01:55:13,440 --> 01:55:15,320
Speaker 2: continues next right here on the home of the Bengals,

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01:55:15,400 --> 01:55:22,120
Speaker 2: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. Welcome back to since e three

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Speaker 2: to sixty Here on ESPN fifteen thirty on most to

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01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:29,600
Speaker 2: know more the big Fella out today, tone back on Monday.

2211
01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:32,920
Speaker 2: We're going to take a look at the weekend schedule

2212
01:55:33,400 --> 01:55:35,880
Speaker 2: before we talk to our buddy Chad Brindle, who's in

2213
01:55:36,040 --> 01:55:39,560
Speaker 2: for Moeggar this afternoon. But before we do that, there's

2214
01:55:39,600 --> 01:55:42,920
Speaker 2: a baseball game this afternoon. Cactus League action between the

2215
01:55:43,000 --> 01:55:46,680
Speaker 2: Old Red Legs and the San Francisco Giants and Scottsdale, Arizona.

2216
01:55:46,760 --> 01:55:48,920
Speaker 2: By the way, if you've never been out there to

2217
01:55:49,080 --> 01:55:53,720
Speaker 2: Arizona for spring training, good Year is awesome and they've

2218
01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:55,720
Speaker 2: built it up and it's a wonderful place to watch

2219
01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:58,440
Speaker 2: a game, and I recommend it. But there's no place

2220
01:55:58,520 --> 01:56:02,120
Speaker 2: better than Scottsdale State in Scottsdale, Arizona, the home of

2221
01:56:02,120 --> 01:56:05,200
Speaker 2: the San Francisco Giants for a spring training game, That's

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01:56:05,200 --> 01:56:08,520
Speaker 2: where the Reds are at today. Drew Bison, Drew wester Heide,

2223
01:56:08,640 --> 01:56:11,280
Speaker 2: my producer today, tell us how will the Reds line

2224
01:56:11,360 --> 01:56:12,960
Speaker 2: him up for today's Cactus League game?

2225
01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:16,000
Speaker 3: Now for the three to zero five start time in Scottsdale,

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01:56:16,040 --> 01:56:20,320
Speaker 3: batting first, playing left, Will Benson Beamon Beamon batting second

2227
01:56:20,360 --> 01:56:23,720
Speaker 3: and catching today, Tyler Stevenson, country singer, the designated hitter,

2228
01:56:24,040 --> 01:56:27,960
Speaker 3: JJ Bleda Oh playing second today, batting fourth, sal Stuart

2229
01:56:28,080 --> 01:56:29,440
Speaker 3: Okay at first base.

2230
01:56:29,480 --> 01:56:30,280
Speaker 2: It's the low down.

2231
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:35,880
Speaker 3: Nathaniel low All right in center, Dane Myers right and right,

2232
01:56:36,200 --> 01:56:39,040
Speaker 3: noeh Welvie Marte playing third, key Brian Hayes and rounding

2233
01:56:39,080 --> 01:56:42,160
Speaker 3: it up at short Garrett Hampson. Wow, Andrew Abbott on

2234
01:56:42,160 --> 01:56:43,720
Speaker 3: the bump. Would like to see Andrewrabbit have a good

2235
01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:47,360
Speaker 3: day today on the bump. So that is Benson, Stevenson, Blade,

2236
01:56:47,960 --> 01:56:53,440
Speaker 3: Stuart Lowe, Myers, Marte, Hayes Hampson with Andrew Abbott on

2237
01:56:53,600 --> 01:56:54,000
Speaker 3: the mound.

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01:56:54,320 --> 01:56:55,880
Speaker 2: That's how the Red Legs will line him up. It

2239
01:56:55,960 --> 01:56:58,160
Speaker 2: was interesting. We didn't have time to get into it

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01:56:58,200 --> 01:57:00,640
Speaker 2: with Charlie today, but he said that no welv Marte

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01:57:00,800 --> 01:57:03,760
Speaker 2: is not having a good camp and if you would

2242
01:57:03,800 --> 01:57:05,240
Speaker 2: have and I think I said this on the air

2243
01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:10,080
Speaker 2: going into the spring, that I thought Noel v Marte

2244
01:57:10,360 --> 01:57:14,440
Speaker 2: was the most important player offensively if he could, because

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01:57:14,520 --> 01:57:17,120
Speaker 2: the last month of the year he's stunk, like to

2246
01:57:17,240 --> 01:57:19,680
Speaker 2: the point where he got benched in the playoffs. He

2247
01:57:19,880 --> 01:57:23,840
Speaker 2: was so bad, can't hit against lefties. I was hoping

2248
01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:26,680
Speaker 2: an off season of comfort out there in right field

2249
01:57:27,160 --> 01:57:30,400
Speaker 2: would lead to and maybe the lineup helping him out

2250
01:57:30,440 --> 01:57:33,640
Speaker 2: a little bit and a little bit more protection for him.

2251
01:57:33,680 --> 01:57:36,360
Speaker 2: But it just feels like it's a slow start for

2252
01:57:36,480 --> 01:57:38,800
Speaker 2: noelv Marte. We saw that from him last year too.

2253
01:57:39,360 --> 01:57:41,000
Speaker 2: Keep in mind it was around this time last year

2254
01:57:41,000 --> 01:57:44,000
Speaker 2: when noelvi Marte got shipped down to minor league camp

2255
01:57:44,520 --> 01:57:46,720
Speaker 2: and started the season in Triple A. So I'm hoping

2256
01:57:47,160 --> 01:57:49,320
Speaker 2: that aelv Marte can turn it around. That's a three

2257
01:57:49,440 --> 01:57:53,160
Speaker 2: zero five game down the dial on seven hundred WLW.

2258
01:57:53,360 --> 01:57:57,080
Speaker 2: As far as the weekend calendar is concerned, a lot

2259
01:57:57,120 --> 01:58:00,720
Speaker 2: of good action, including tonight the Miami Redhawk go for

2260
01:58:01,040 --> 01:58:04,600
Speaker 2: perfection in Athens up against Ou and the Battle of

2261
01:58:04,640 --> 01:58:07,360
Speaker 2: the Bricks. That is a nine pm tip off tonight

2262
01:58:08,160 --> 01:58:14,320
Speaker 2: in mac action in Athens between Miami and Ohio. Meanwhile, Saturday,

2263
01:58:14,480 --> 01:58:17,680
Speaker 2: Xavier gets things started off. They play Villa Nova at

2264
01:58:17,840 --> 01:58:22,240
Speaker 2: noon and you see at two pm Saturday is at

2265
01:58:22,520 --> 01:58:26,160
Speaker 2: TCU to take on the horn Frogs. Five thirty pm

2266
01:58:26,320 --> 01:58:31,000
Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon, it'll be Ohio State and Indiana from Columbus.

2267
01:58:31,440 --> 01:58:35,560
Speaker 2: Bruce Thornton, the longtime Buckeye, needs just twelve points to

2268
01:58:35,680 --> 01:58:40,960
Speaker 2: become the all time leading scorer in Ohio State basketball history.

2269
01:58:41,600 --> 01:58:44,760
Speaker 2: It is Bruce Thornton Bobblehead Day in Columbus. That will

2270
01:58:44,800 --> 01:58:48,920
Speaker 2: be a really cool environment up against Indiana. Game. Yeah,

2271
01:58:49,080 --> 01:58:51,240
Speaker 2: huge game, and that's a game that U see fans

2272
01:58:51,280 --> 01:58:52,840
Speaker 2: are going to be rooting for Ohio State much like

2273
01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:55,000
Speaker 2: they're rooting for Dayton. I mean you want to talk

2274
01:58:55,040 --> 01:58:59,040
Speaker 2: about making ends meet between those two. Ohio State will

2275
01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:03,760
Speaker 2: essentially eliminate Indiana with that win, and then six thirty

2276
01:59:03,800 --> 01:59:08,480
Speaker 2: pm Saturday night the Classic Duke North Carolina rivalry. As well,

2277
01:59:08,640 --> 01:59:11,120
Speaker 2: we do have some somber news on the North Carolina front.

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01:59:11,280 --> 01:59:11,360
Speaker 9: Uh.

2279
01:59:11,400 --> 01:59:16,120
Speaker 3: Oh, the superstar freshman Caleb Wilson broke his thumb in practice.

2280
01:59:16,360 --> 01:59:20,400
Speaker 3: Oh no, he is having a surgery, season ending surgery

2281
01:59:20,520 --> 01:59:21,440
Speaker 3: on his broken thumb.

2282
01:59:21,480 --> 01:59:21,640
Speaker 20: Oh.

2283
01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:25,320
Speaker 3: The projected number four pick in the upcoming NBA draft

2284
01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:28,360
Speaker 3: this season is done, which is a shame because he's

2285
01:59:28,360 --> 01:59:28,960
Speaker 3: a lot of fun to watch.

2286
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:31,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully he is healthy in time for the Bulls

2287
01:59:31,520 --> 01:59:33,040
Speaker 2: to ruin his career in the next year.

2288
01:59:33,800 --> 01:59:33,920
Speaker 23: Uh.

2289
01:59:34,120 --> 01:59:36,400
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the Red schedule for the weekend, as you mentioned,

2290
01:59:36,440 --> 01:59:39,520
Speaker 2: they are playing the Giants today at three oh five.

2291
01:59:39,600 --> 01:59:41,920
Speaker 2: They are also taking on the Royals. They are on

2292
01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:44,520
Speaker 2: the road to take on the Royals tomorrow afternoon at

2293
01:59:44,560 --> 01:59:50,600
Speaker 2: three oh five, and then early morning Sunday, daylight savings

2294
01:59:50,680 --> 01:59:54,200
Speaker 2: time begins. This is crucial for the mental health of

2295
01:59:54,280 --> 01:59:58,480
Speaker 2: so many Americans. Myself included Reds and Diamondbacks at four

2296
01:59:58,600 --> 02:00:05,880
Speaker 2: oh five on Sunday afternoon, so that is pretty much everything.

2297
02:00:05,960 --> 02:00:08,920
Speaker 2: Did I miss anything on the weekend schedule? You think

2298
02:00:08,960 --> 02:00:11,360
Speaker 2: you hit everything? FC Cincinnati on Sunday Night and yes,

2299
02:00:11,680 --> 02:00:13,720
Speaker 2: since sing on Sunday Night, talked about that with Tommy

2300
02:00:13,800 --> 02:00:16,400
Speaker 2: g What's going on in the golf world. I know

2301
02:00:16,480 --> 02:00:18,600
Speaker 2: you're a big golf fan. Where are they at this

2302
02:00:18,800 --> 02:00:20,640
Speaker 2: weekend and who's currently in the lead.

2303
02:00:20,880 --> 02:00:24,000
Speaker 3: They are in Orlando, Florida at Bay Hill the Arnold

2304
02:00:24,040 --> 02:00:27,400
Speaker 3: Palmer Invitational, which is a signature event which means all

2305
02:00:27,440 --> 02:00:29,000
Speaker 3: the big dogs are playing this week.

2306
02:00:28,960 --> 02:00:31,480
Speaker 2: And literally the logo is the signature with the little

2307
02:00:31,560 --> 02:00:33,360
Speaker 2: umbrella right, correct? That is correct.

2308
02:00:33,880 --> 02:00:39,240
Speaker 3: Daniel Berger leads at eleven under a really good player,

2309
02:00:39,880 --> 02:00:42,040
Speaker 3: battles some injuries the last several years. Is the first

2310
02:00:42,080 --> 02:00:44,640
Speaker 3: time he's led a tournament in four years, so he's

2311
02:00:44,640 --> 02:00:46,600
Speaker 3: starting to get back into the forum. And then some

2312
02:00:46,680 --> 02:00:49,680
Speaker 3: big names on the leaderboard right now. Colin Morikawa loved

2313
02:00:49,720 --> 02:00:52,880
Speaker 3: Big Aberg, Ricky Fowlers on the first page of leader

2314
02:00:53,480 --> 02:00:56,880
Speaker 3: Fowler's on the first page, wow, and Xander Schaffle just

2315
02:00:56,920 --> 02:01:00,520
Speaker 3: to name a few. Did Scotti perform poorly? Is he

2316
02:01:00,640 --> 02:01:03,360
Speaker 3: not playing Scott? He's playing He is two under par

2317
02:01:03,560 --> 02:01:06,880
Speaker 3: so he is about tea Actually he's three under par

2318
02:01:06,960 --> 02:01:07,920
Speaker 3: so he's t fourteen.

2319
02:01:08,400 --> 02:01:11,600
Speaker 2: He is just teed off on number six. Oh wonderful.

2320
02:01:11,680 --> 02:01:14,040
Speaker 2: His ball has found the rough unfortion. Okay, so it's

2321
02:01:14,200 --> 02:01:15,120
Speaker 2: just like me. That's that.

2322
02:01:15,360 --> 02:01:17,960
Speaker 3: So the Players is next week, which is obviously a

2323
02:01:18,040 --> 02:01:21,120
Speaker 3: big deal for the PGA Tour, and before you know it,

2324
02:01:22,120 --> 02:01:23,600
Speaker 3: as the weather begins to turn.

2325
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Speaker 2: We will get to hear yes, play it. Oh, We'll

2326
02:01:28,480 --> 02:01:31,000
Speaker 2: head to augusta one of my favorite weeks of the year,

2327
02:01:31,080 --> 02:01:35,000
Speaker 2: where Rory McElroy will try to defend his green jacket.

2328
02:01:35,120 --> 02:01:36,920
Speaker 2: I am very much looking forward to, by the way,

2329
02:01:37,000 --> 02:01:39,240
Speaker 2: for years, did you know the green jackets were made

2330
02:01:39,280 --> 02:01:41,480
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati? I did, Yeah, I didn't know that. I

2331
02:01:41,560 --> 02:01:44,320
Speaker 2: can't wait to find out what Rory's Champions dinner is

2332
02:01:44,440 --> 02:01:46,640
Speaker 2: going to be. Yes coming. He's the needles kind of

2333
02:01:46,640 --> 02:01:49,640
Speaker 2: stuff that we're waiting to see this all right, speaking

2334
02:01:49,680 --> 02:01:52,240
Speaker 2: of pens and needles, that's what everyone's been waiting on.

2335
02:01:52,320 --> 02:01:55,440
Speaker 2: To talk to Chad Brindle. He's in for Moegar this afternoon.

2336
02:01:55,520 --> 02:01:57,320
Speaker 2: He joins us next for quick hits right here on

2337
02:01:57,520 --> 02:01:58,520
Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty.

2338
02:02:00,440 --> 02:02:03,760
Speaker 1: Now it's time for quick hits on Tony Pikes.

2339
02:02:03,840 --> 02:02:10,600
Speaker 2: Since here welcome back in final segment of the show

2340
02:02:10,760 --> 02:02:14,040
Speaker 2: here on ESPN fifteen thirty, and we're getting ready to

2341
02:02:14,120 --> 02:02:16,920
Speaker 2: make way for the great Chad Brindle, who is in

2342
02:02:17,080 --> 02:02:20,480
Speaker 2: this afternoon from three to six for Moegger. Hi, Chad,

2343
02:02:20,520 --> 02:02:23,920
Speaker 2: how are you great? It's probably an over Friday. Trying

2344
02:02:23,960 --> 02:02:24,440
Speaker 2: to be nice.

2345
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Speaker 5: We don't try to undersell like that. Well, that's true,

2346
02:02:27,880 --> 02:02:30,640
Speaker 5: you know, the little of the slightly above average Chad

2347
02:02:30,720 --> 02:02:34,320
Speaker 5: Brendle and under over delivered, right, yeah, Okay, then if

2348
02:02:34,360 --> 02:02:37,680
Speaker 5: it's great, like they were expecting slightly above average, is.

2349
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Speaker 2: That kind of what happened with you see basketball this year? Hida? Yeah,

2350
02:02:40,400 --> 02:02:43,720
Speaker 2: like they you know, they lowered the expectations. And now right,

2351
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Speaker 2: am I wrong?

2352
02:02:45,920 --> 02:02:46,600
Speaker 10: For so?

2353
02:02:46,720 --> 02:02:49,400
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm obviously not a huge bear Cat fan,

2354
02:02:49,680 --> 02:02:53,200
Speaker 2: we know, but I'm not like moving the goal posts

2355
02:02:53,280 --> 02:02:56,520
Speaker 2: on West Miller, Like the goal should still be make

2356
02:02:56,640 --> 02:02:59,720
Speaker 2: the tournament, and if he doesn't make the tournament, I'm

2357
02:02:59,760 --> 02:03:02,120
Speaker 2: still like this season was a failure.

2358
02:03:04,280 --> 02:03:04,520
Speaker 13: Fair.

2359
02:03:04,920 --> 02:03:07,480
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I when it comes to like

2360
02:03:07,840 --> 02:03:10,400
Speaker 5: make the tournament or be fired, I think it's more

2361
02:03:10,480 --> 02:03:13,320
Speaker 5: nuanced than that. But if you want to consider what

2362
02:03:13,440 --> 02:03:15,600
Speaker 5: they did at the beginning of the season, putting them

2363
02:03:15,640 --> 02:03:19,120
Speaker 5: in this position as a bit of a failure of

2364
02:03:19,200 --> 02:03:22,000
Speaker 5: a season. Like I understand that, I get where fans

2365
02:03:22,040 --> 02:03:24,840
Speaker 5: that are coming from that have that belief. Why is

2366
02:03:24,880 --> 02:03:27,280
Speaker 5: it more nuanced than make the tournament or be fired?

2367
02:03:27,280 --> 02:03:31,680
Speaker 5: Because there's lots of money involved? And now in college

2368
02:03:31,680 --> 02:03:36,600
Speaker 5: sports buy out yes, like just hypothetically speaking, you're his

2369
02:03:36,760 --> 02:03:39,560
Speaker 5: buyout is ten million until April first, it drops to five.

2370
02:03:41,000 --> 02:03:43,920
Speaker 5: They can't wait until April first, sure, so you're gonna

2371
02:03:43,920 --> 02:03:47,720
Speaker 5: have to negotiate a settlement fire.

2372
02:03:47,560 --> 02:03:49,880
Speaker 2: In which at this point I don't think is going

2373
02:03:49,960 --> 02:03:50,240
Speaker 2: to happen.

2374
02:03:50,440 --> 02:03:54,560
Speaker 5: Right, let's say seven million, right between five and ten

2375
02:03:55,120 --> 02:03:55,960
Speaker 5: six seven million.

2376
02:03:56,760 --> 02:03:57,760
Speaker 2: Now, let's say.

2377
02:03:57,600 --> 02:04:01,040
Speaker 5: You're gonna hire Josh Shirtz or Jared Calhoun. Right, both

2378
02:04:01,120 --> 02:04:04,600
Speaker 5: of those coaches have four million dollar buyouts. So now

2379
02:04:04,680 --> 02:04:07,640
Speaker 5: you're at eleven million dollars to make a change, paying

2380
02:04:07,680 --> 02:04:08,680
Speaker 5: more than what you would have.

2381
02:04:09,160 --> 02:04:12,000
Speaker 2: And who do you who pays buy it? Who pays buyouts?

2382
02:04:12,200 --> 02:04:12,360
Speaker 14: Oh?

2383
02:04:12,760 --> 02:04:15,840
Speaker 2: Donors? Donors pay buyouts? Right, Donors wouldn't pay for the

2384
02:04:15,880 --> 02:04:17,600
Speaker 2: players to who plays pays nil?

2385
02:04:18,200 --> 02:04:21,960
Speaker 5: So if you know Donor X had two and a

2386
02:04:22,040 --> 02:04:26,120
Speaker 5: half million dollars slated to go to UC basketball, Now

2387
02:04:26,240 --> 02:04:27,880
Speaker 5: you're gonna have to go to donor acts and say,

2388
02:04:27,920 --> 02:04:30,080
Speaker 5: well that we need that two and a half million

2389
02:04:30,920 --> 02:04:33,560
Speaker 5: to do to do this other stuff, We're gonna need

2390
02:04:33,600 --> 02:04:38,080
Speaker 5: another two and a half million from you. If your

2391
02:04:38,120 --> 02:04:41,800
Speaker 5: coach is five and thirteen in the conference, that's you,

2392
02:04:42,240 --> 02:04:44,800
Speaker 5: that's underst like the donors are a little bit more

2393
02:04:45,280 --> 02:04:48,400
Speaker 5: app to do to have that conversation. If your coach

2394
02:04:48,520 --> 02:04:50,280
Speaker 5: is ten and eight in the conference and finish the

2395
02:04:50,320 --> 02:04:52,280
Speaker 5: season as one of the hottest teams in the country,

2396
02:04:53,200 --> 02:04:55,640
Speaker 5: you might have a different conversation with set donors. So

2397
02:04:55,760 --> 02:05:01,000
Speaker 5: it just especially now in the world of paying players

2398
02:05:01,120 --> 02:05:03,600
Speaker 5: and having to come up with money to I mean,

2399
02:05:03,640 --> 02:05:08,040
Speaker 5: we're talking there were probably this and I think there

2400
02:05:08,120 --> 02:05:10,200
Speaker 5: was an article yesterday that touched on this as well.

2401
02:05:10,280 --> 02:05:14,560
Speaker 5: There were probably twenty teams in college basketball that had

2402
02:05:14,600 --> 02:05:20,080
Speaker 5: a roster ten million plus for this year. We thought

2403
02:05:20,320 --> 02:05:23,840
Speaker 5: that was going to drop because nil was supposed to

2404
02:05:24,200 --> 02:05:25,840
Speaker 5: kind of be going away and it was gonna be

2405
02:05:25,920 --> 02:05:28,880
Speaker 5: revshare teams with football, We're going to be putting more

2406
02:05:28,920 --> 02:05:33,360
Speaker 5: into football rev share than basketball. The expectation is that

2407
02:05:33,880 --> 02:05:37,600
Speaker 5: the ten million number is now like the baseline for

2408
02:05:37,760 --> 02:05:43,080
Speaker 5: Power five teams. So you're talking probably forty teams are

2409
02:05:43,120 --> 02:05:45,320
Speaker 5: going to have a roster of ten million or more. Now,

2410
02:05:46,240 --> 02:05:49,400
Speaker 5: that creates another thing because without the COVID years and

2411
02:05:50,120 --> 02:05:55,040
Speaker 5: there's not going to be enough players good enough to

2412
02:05:55,240 --> 02:05:58,440
Speaker 5: have forty teams with a ten million dollar roster. Sure,

2413
02:05:58,840 --> 02:06:02,440
Speaker 5: but it's a lot more nuanced than it used to be.

2414
02:06:02,680 --> 02:06:06,400
Speaker 2: Okay, I guess I guess that makes sense. Easy to

2415
02:06:06,400 --> 02:06:08,840
Speaker 2: spend somebody else's money. Yeah, exactly, I'm a big fan

2416
02:06:08,920 --> 02:06:11,880
Speaker 2: of that. I'm a huge fan of that. Actually, what

2417
02:06:12,000 --> 02:06:13,480
Speaker 2: do you got coming up on the show this after?

2418
02:06:13,840 --> 02:06:15,200
Speaker 2: We're going to talk about the Bearcats?

2419
02:06:15,320 --> 02:06:20,040
Speaker 5: Really and you know, get have the feelings on Wes

2420
02:06:20,160 --> 02:06:23,520
Speaker 5: Miller shifted any seeing the way not just that this

2421
02:06:23,640 --> 02:06:25,640
Speaker 5: team is winning, but the way that they're winning, the

2422
02:06:25,760 --> 02:06:28,840
Speaker 5: way that they're playing over this last month, is that

2423
02:06:29,360 --> 02:06:32,680
Speaker 5: changed maybe the idea that he figured something out, that

2424
02:06:32,800 --> 02:06:36,840
Speaker 5: he's turning the corner. I think people just gloss over

2425
02:06:36,920 --> 02:06:39,000
Speaker 5: this because it's easy to gloss over. He's a young

2426
02:06:39,120 --> 02:06:42,760
Speaker 5: coach in the toughest league in America, and winning in

2427
02:06:42,840 --> 02:06:45,640
Speaker 5: this league is not a guarantee, so you can fire him.

2428
02:06:46,640 --> 02:06:48,560
Speaker 5: But if you bring in a Calhoun or a shirts,

2429
02:06:48,640 --> 02:06:51,520
Speaker 5: what is that adjustment period for them to learn how

2430
02:06:51,560 --> 02:06:54,600
Speaker 5: to win against Bill self and Calvin Samson, and you

2431
02:06:54,680 --> 02:06:57,520
Speaker 5: know the the top of this league, Tommy Lloyd, who's

2432
02:06:57,560 --> 02:07:01,520
Speaker 5: proven to be an outstanding coach. So it's I'm interested

2433
02:07:01,560 --> 02:07:04,480
Speaker 5: to see what people think there. We're gonna talk quite

2434
02:07:04,480 --> 02:07:07,120
Speaker 5: a bit of rads. Klay Snoden joins us, UH to

2435
02:07:07,200 --> 02:07:09,800
Speaker 5: talk some reds. Kegan Nickoson will join us. They should

2436
02:07:10,760 --> 02:07:13,160
Speaker 5: just about being fort Worth. I sent him to Fort Worth?

2437
02:07:14,120 --> 02:07:14,640
Speaker 5: Did you really?

2438
02:07:14,760 --> 02:07:17,200
Speaker 2: I did? Wow, he's in fort Worth for Actually I

2439
02:07:17,280 --> 02:07:18,800
Speaker 2: knew that. He told us that yesterday.

2440
02:07:19,600 --> 02:07:21,440
Speaker 5: I think I'm sending him to Kansas City too. Like

2441
02:07:21,560 --> 02:07:25,480
Speaker 5: I I didn't budget. Let's be honest, I didn't budget.

2442
02:07:25,560 --> 02:07:30,000
Speaker 2: For this one. Now, Keegan's out here trying to spend

2443
02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:33,240
Speaker 2: your money. Yeah, yeah, it's easy to spend somebody else's money.

2444
02:07:34,880 --> 02:07:38,200
Speaker 2: But is it okay?

2445
02:07:38,920 --> 02:07:42,160
Speaker 5: Or are we at a point where we can start

2446
02:07:42,240 --> 02:07:46,120
Speaker 5: wondering if the offense is ready to carry a little

2447
02:07:46,160 --> 02:07:49,120
Speaker 5: bit more of the load, especially with no Hunter Green.

2448
02:07:49,200 --> 02:07:52,400
Speaker 5: We don't know for how long, but if you're going

2449
02:07:52,480 --> 02:07:55,920
Speaker 5: with a rotation that's got burns and louder at the

2450
02:07:56,000 --> 02:07:59,960
Speaker 5: four and five, you're probably gonna be taxing your bullpen

2451
02:08:00,120 --> 02:08:02,720
Speaker 5: A little bit more. You're gonna be putting some overall

2452
02:08:02,840 --> 02:08:06,480
Speaker 5: stress on that pitching staff. The offense has been outstanding

2453
02:08:06,920 --> 02:08:10,800
Speaker 5: in Arizona, but it's spring training in Arizona. In Arizona.

2454
02:08:11,240 --> 02:08:13,960
Speaker 5: And to add to one of the I was listening

2455
02:08:14,000 --> 02:08:15,640
Speaker 5: on the way in one of the points you made,

2456
02:08:16,240 --> 02:08:19,840
Speaker 5: the ball doesn't break nearly as much out there. The

2457
02:08:20,360 --> 02:08:24,360
Speaker 5: heat out there, This Reds team, when it warms up,

2458
02:08:24,560 --> 02:08:27,520
Speaker 5: might be a much better power hitting team. You know,

2459
02:08:27,600 --> 02:08:29,160
Speaker 5: it's gonna be really hard for them to do that

2460
02:08:29,680 --> 02:08:33,400
Speaker 5: April and May so. Are they ready to be more

2461
02:08:33,520 --> 02:08:39,360
Speaker 5: than a three outcome offense, walk, strikeout, home run? Will

2462
02:08:39,440 --> 02:08:42,880
Speaker 5: they be able to manufacture day to day because last

2463
02:08:42,960 --> 02:08:45,240
Speaker 5: year what we saw was if you looked at the

2464
02:08:45,320 --> 02:08:47,440
Speaker 5: run total at the end of the week, like that

2465
02:08:48,280 --> 02:08:51,040
Speaker 5: offense is pretty good, but they had one day with nine,

2466
02:08:51,680 --> 02:08:54,840
Speaker 5: two days with one, and a day with four. Like

2467
02:08:55,360 --> 02:08:58,360
Speaker 5: just there wasn't any level of consistency.

2468
02:08:58,560 --> 02:09:03,760
Speaker 2: So consistency for the entire ball like every part. Defensive consistency,

2469
02:09:04,360 --> 02:09:08,400
Speaker 2: offensive consistency. Can the bullpen, the first guy out of

2470
02:09:08,440 --> 02:09:11,480
Speaker 2: the bullpen be consistent? You know that sort of stuff?

2471
02:09:11,560 --> 02:09:14,160
Speaker 2: I yeah, I mean the ceiling is so hot it

2472
02:09:14,280 --> 02:09:17,880
Speaker 2: can be but it takes a lot to get all

2473
02:09:17,880 --> 02:09:18,440
Speaker 2: the way up there.

2474
02:09:18,560 --> 02:09:21,040
Speaker 5: I was just looking at that conversation and I had

2475
02:09:21,080 --> 02:09:24,080
Speaker 5: planned this, and then hearing you talk about it kind

2476
02:09:24,120 --> 02:09:30,800
Speaker 5: of added to it. You're gonna take a little bit

2477
02:09:30,840 --> 02:09:34,040
Speaker 5: of bumps. Yeah, you're gonna take on some water because

2478
02:09:34,200 --> 02:09:36,400
Speaker 5: you don't have your number one. Now, your number two

2479
02:09:36,480 --> 02:09:39,080
Speaker 5: is your number one. I don't think Nicodola is number one. Oh,

2480
02:09:40,120 --> 02:09:41,440
Speaker 5: I think it's a two. I think it's a really

2481
02:09:41,480 --> 02:09:43,920
Speaker 5: good tub of three fair And part of that is

2482
02:09:44,000 --> 02:09:47,280
Speaker 5: because you're worried about the blister and the history with him.

2483
02:09:47,840 --> 02:09:49,600
Speaker 5: I think a number one is a guy you want

2484
02:09:49,600 --> 02:09:51,400
Speaker 5: to pencil in, and that's why Hunter Green is a

2485
02:09:51,480 --> 02:09:54,040
Speaker 5: problem penciling him in as a number one. But like

2486
02:09:54,240 --> 02:09:56,760
Speaker 5: that guy's gonna get me thirty starts this year and

2487
02:09:56,840 --> 02:09:59,560
Speaker 5: he's gonna be really good. So I don't think Andrew

2488
02:09:59,600 --> 02:10:02,520
Speaker 5: Abbott is a great two. I think he's an awesome three.

2489
02:10:03,120 --> 02:10:06,080
Speaker 5: He's serviceable as a number two starter, like he's best

2490
02:10:06,120 --> 02:10:06,880
Speaker 5: as the number three.

2491
02:10:08,160 --> 02:10:09,360
Speaker 2: I think Brady Singer's a.

2492
02:10:09,360 --> 02:10:12,400
Speaker 5: Four maybe even like on a really really good team,

2493
02:10:12,520 --> 02:10:16,640
Speaker 5: like a five ding eater, you know, medium middle of

2494
02:10:16,680 --> 02:10:19,760
Speaker 5: the road e ra a so everybody's bumping up a

2495
02:10:19,800 --> 02:10:22,880
Speaker 5: spot and you're asking these two young guys to step

2496
02:10:23,000 --> 02:10:24,640
Speaker 5: up and be really important pieces.

2497
02:10:25,320 --> 02:10:27,520
Speaker 2: That means your bullpen's gonna work more innings.

2498
02:10:28,880 --> 02:10:32,280
Speaker 5: Are you able to avoid getting to the middle of

2499
02:10:32,400 --> 02:10:37,880
Speaker 5: May and your bullpen is shod destroyed. You're doing the

2500
02:10:38,120 --> 02:10:44,280
Speaker 5: shuttling guys from Louisville to Cincinnati, and and this is

2501
02:10:44,400 --> 02:10:47,920
Speaker 5: ultimately going to be the test of something that the

2502
02:10:48,000 --> 02:10:51,440
Speaker 5: Reds have been terrible at the last four years, Austin death,

2503
02:10:52,240 --> 02:10:56,000
Speaker 5: because as soon as there were bumpy waters, it was,

2504
02:10:56,200 --> 02:10:59,720
Speaker 5: you know, like Stuart Fairchild's here to hit lefties right

2505
02:11:00,240 --> 02:11:02,800
Speaker 5: and in that role, I didn't mind Stuart Fairchild, right,

2506
02:11:03,240 --> 02:11:07,080
Speaker 5: but then one injury happens and now Stuart Fairchild's out

2507
02:11:07,080 --> 02:11:10,080
Speaker 5: there five days a week swinging against righties which like

2508
02:11:10,920 --> 02:11:11,720
Speaker 5: they didn't have.

2509
02:11:11,880 --> 02:11:14,200
Speaker 2: The ability to sustain anything.

2510
02:11:15,160 --> 02:11:18,240
Speaker 5: Is what we're seeing in spring training, not just the results,

2511
02:11:18,320 --> 02:11:21,840
Speaker 5: but Matt McLain looks right. And I think you talked

2512
02:11:21,880 --> 02:11:25,920
Speaker 5: about this earlier as well, McLean to Ellie, to Suarez

2513
02:11:26,400 --> 02:11:31,920
Speaker 5: to probably Marte to probably Stewart, like those guys all

2514
02:11:32,040 --> 02:11:34,000
Speaker 5: have the ability to protect each other.

2515
02:11:34,200 --> 02:11:37,520
Speaker 2: Right all the way up at like that. Yeah, there's

2516
02:11:37,560 --> 02:11:38,320
Speaker 2: not as many holes.

2517
02:11:38,400 --> 02:11:40,280
Speaker 5: How many times last year was it like, Well, if

2518
02:11:40,320 --> 02:11:42,320
Speaker 5: they don't get something done here at the two three

2519
02:11:42,440 --> 02:11:45,760
Speaker 5: four spot, we got three more innings until the two

2520
02:11:45,800 --> 02:11:47,360
Speaker 5: more innings until they're gonna do something again.

2521
02:11:47,440 --> 02:11:51,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, all that and more Bengels free agency.

2522
02:11:51,240 --> 02:11:52,960
Speaker 2: We'll get to that coming up from three to six

2523
02:11:53,040 --> 02:11:55,760
Speaker 2: this afternoon with Chad Brindle. That does it for me.

2524
02:11:56,040 --> 02:11:59,160
Speaker 2: Thank you to Drew wester Heidie for producing. Thank you

2525
02:12:00,200 --> 02:12:03,320
Speaker 2: if you can't get enough sports talk radio. After you're

2526
02:12:03,400 --> 02:12:06,160
Speaker 2: done listening to Chad from three to six this afternoon,

2527
02:12:06,560 --> 02:12:09,120
Speaker 2: listen to me tonight from six to nine down the

2528
02:12:09,200 --> 02:12:12,600
Speaker 2: dial on seven hundred WLW, going to be joined by

2529
02:12:12,640 --> 02:12:18,320
Speaker 2: Butch Hobson, who went inside the Bengals new personnel department.

2530
02:12:18,840 --> 02:12:20,960
Speaker 2: We'll talk to Tommy Thrall, the voice of the Reds.

2531
02:12:21,120 --> 02:12:24,840
Speaker 2: We'll also talk to Paul Fritzner, mister college basketball as

2532
02:12:24,880 --> 02:12:28,960
Speaker 2: we get into college basketball weekend. That is, that's all

2533
02:12:29,000 --> 02:12:31,880
Speaker 2: coming up on seven hundred WLW from six to nine tonight.

2534
02:12:32,000 --> 02:12:34,120
Speaker 2: Chad Brendle is next. Thanks so much for listening on

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02:12:34,160 --> 02:12:36,480
Speaker 2: the Home of the Bengals ESPN fifteen thirty