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Speaker 2: He is a former Seahawk from nineteen ninety two to

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety five, then finished his career as a member

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Speaker 2: of the Detroit Lions. It's been twenty five years, man,

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Speaker 2: unbelievable since Ray Roberts last put on a football helmet,

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Speaker 2: at least professionally.

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Speaker 3: It's with us now on the air talking Hawks in

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Speaker 3: the NFL. Ray, how are you? Man?

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Speaker 1: Man, I'm doing good.

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Speaker 4: Just listen to the energy you guys have doing the headlines,

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Speaker 4: even with the coaching fire, and I'm over jacked up.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, man, they got me excited about the bad news.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know what, there ain't no bad news

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Speaker 2: if you're a Seahawk fan right now, big guy.

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Speaker 3: It is awesome. And I guess the question.

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Speaker 2: Is this, and kind of all three of us agree

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Speaker 2: that this seems like the timeline for Mike McDonald to

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Speaker 2: have some real success in Seattle. Whatever you thought it

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Speaker 2: was gonna be, Ray, whatever John Schneider thought it was

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Speaker 2: gonna be, it feels like it's been accelerated right. Like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I saw this coming in year

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Speaker 2: two of the Mike McDonald regime.

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Speaker 4: How about Yeah, I have to be honest with you,

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Speaker 4: because I thought maybe coming into the season they had

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Speaker 4: maybe ten wins and maybe squeak out a win the

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Speaker 4: end of the season to get into the playoffs. I

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Speaker 4: wasn't really sold on Sam Donald's at first, not that

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Speaker 4: I was sold on Gino either. I just wasn't told

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Speaker 4: that Sam donald was gonna be the guy. Didn't know

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Speaker 4: what they were going to do with the offensive line,

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Speaker 4: didn't know if the running game, this outside wide zone

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Speaker 4: thing was going to work here in Seattle. So there's

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Speaker 4: a lot of question marks I had going into it,

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Speaker 4: and I figured they would do, like the first year,

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Speaker 4: just try to figure it out as the season went on,

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Speaker 4: when they released players and cut players and traded players

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Speaker 4: and all this kind of stuff. But they were able

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Speaker 4: to kind of rally all that stuff together and kind

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Speaker 4: of get everyone all the arrows pointed in the right direction.

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Speaker 4: And to me, it's been pretty amazing, not only how

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Speaker 4: great they've played, but how the team has embraced the

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Speaker 4: essence of who coach McDonald is. Who's he's a very

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Speaker 4: serious football twenty four seven, three sixty five type of

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Speaker 4: a dude. Uh, and he's you know, he tries to

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Speaker 4: be very connected to the team. This team is very connected, tough,

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Speaker 4: physical football team, and to me, it's amazing how quickly

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Speaker 4: that took hold of this team.

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Speaker 5: Well, he is raising the ranks right now and the

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Speaker 5: head coaches in the NFL, no question about it. What

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Speaker 5: impresses you the most about him and what you've seen

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Speaker 5: in the two years that he's been here.

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Speaker 4: Uh, The thing that impresses two things. One is that

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Speaker 4: he has a very good idea of what it is

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Speaker 4: that he's looking for. Like he like he's not trying

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Speaker 4: to figure out what his system is, or what his

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Speaker 4: type of player is, or you know, all these different kinds.

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Speaker 4: He knows what he wants and he knows what it

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Speaker 4: looks like looks like when he sees it. So that's

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Speaker 4: why the first year, the two linebackers they had early,

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Speaker 4: they're able to just you know, move on past them

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Speaker 4: because they they didn't look like and do the things

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Speaker 4: that they needed to needed them to do. And then

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Speaker 4: the other part of it is as as kind of

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Speaker 4: straightforward and serious and locked in as he is, he's

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Speaker 4: also open to looking at things from a different perspective.

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Speaker 4: I thought that was interesting the first time I met him,

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Speaker 4: and he said that he gives the assistant coaches like

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Speaker 4: this leeway to kind of go down the rabbit hole

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Speaker 4: every now and again and go like, hey, man, I

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Speaker 4: think this might work. And that's sometimes when someone is

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Speaker 4: so locked into who they are, it's hard to get

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Speaker 4: them to see something else. But he wants the coaches

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Speaker 4: to have some agency and trying to be innovative in.

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Speaker 1: What they do. And you know, Pete Carroll was more.

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Speaker 4: Of like, this is how I'm doing it every day

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Speaker 4: of my life.

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Speaker 1: This is how we're doing it.

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Speaker 4: And Coach McDonald's like, this is how we're doing it.

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Speaker 4: But man, if that fits in how we're doing let's

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Speaker 4: try that too. And I thought that was pretty awesome

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Speaker 4: because it gives the assistant coaches some autonomy and then

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Speaker 4: you're able to pass that on to the players and

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Speaker 4: I think that creates a different type of atmosphere, a

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Speaker 4: different type of environment and culture to play under.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Ray Roberts is with us, and Ray it's

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Speaker 2: a great point. And I'm really curious to see in

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Speaker 2: twenty five thirty years from now, you know, how willing

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Speaker 2: is Mike McDonald going to be to evolve, right, because

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Speaker 2: let's face it, I mean Pete Carroll was seventy years old.

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Speaker 2: Mike McDonald's are twelve, for God's sakes, right, So I

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Speaker 2: mean we are kind of seeing maybe a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a of a window, if you will, into what

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Speaker 2: maybe Pete Carroll would have been like when he was

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Speaker 2: thirty five years old versus mid sixties when he came

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Speaker 2: to Seattle. And I love the fact that they've got

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Speaker 2: watching all these coaches get fired, We're hearing all these names.

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Speaker 2: It's the same stupid names that you hear every single year,

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Speaker 2: just get recycled over and over and over again. And

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Speaker 2: they got a guy here who is unique. He's innovative

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Speaker 2: as a pioneer, he's energetic, he's young, he's got great ideas.

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Speaker 2: I do wonder though, because with Pete Carroll, I think

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Speaker 2: we can honestly say a big part of their reason

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Speaker 2: that they had success on defense was because of the

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Speaker 2: skill they had on defense. Pete's scheme was phenomenal. No

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Speaker 2: doubt Pete was a great scheme out guy. But there's

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Speaker 2: hall of famers all over that Lob. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if we have those in Seattle. So how much of

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Speaker 2: this is scheme and how much of it is talent

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Speaker 2: in your opinion, But the way I look at.

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Speaker 4: It is that they have the talent that fits the scheme,

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Speaker 4: and so it's both and because, like you said, it's

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Speaker 4: not like they have at this point a bunch of

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Speaker 4: Hall of Famers back there, like you could project with

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Speaker 4: the Legion of Boom, But they have dudes that fit

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Speaker 4: exactly how they want to play. Emon Worry is an example.

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Speaker 4: They like guys that can do multiple things. They don't

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Speaker 4: want to necessarily have one player that has only one

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Speaker 4: see some of those outside linebackers dropping in the coverage.

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Speaker 4: They can rush the quarterback, they can play the run.

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Speaker 4: You have defensive linemen that can do the same. You

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Speaker 4: have linebackers that can cover and then also fill the

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Speaker 1: The line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 4: You got a guy like Witherspoon who can play anywhere

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Speaker 4: So he loves of guys that can bring multiple things

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Speaker 4: they have, and and then even more than that is

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Speaker 4: I just love like the forty nine er game. I

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Speaker 4: can't even remember a mistackle. I can't remember a guy

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Speaker 4: that to me says a lot about he has this

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Speaker 4: thing in the down at the BMAC that we want

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Speaker 4: to play like no one else wants to play basically,

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Speaker 4: and that's what they did against the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 4: They played a tough, physical football game. And then on

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Speaker 4: to get some of that physicality along the offensive line too.

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Speaker 5: Ray, you said at the beginning here that you weren't

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Speaker 5: sold on Sam Donald the beginning of the season.

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Speaker 3: What sold you on Sam?

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Speaker 5: Because there are still Seahawks fans that aren't sold on

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Speaker 5: Sam Donald after going fourteen and three here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, I think one of the things is like,

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Speaker 4: and my even my perspective of it, I'm thinking, like, man,

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Speaker 4: like the guy like he's gonna be like like one

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Speaker 4: if you want him to or not. And then what

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Speaker 4: I came to realize is Sam Donald is not that,

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Speaker 4: but he is a dude that can make pros. And

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Speaker 4: in the crunch time, when you can give him some

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Speaker 4: him into a rhythm, he becomes deadly. This dude has

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Speaker 4: like especially early in the season, the first half of

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Speaker 4: the season. Uh, you know, been on the show with

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Speaker 4: Brian Walters and Michael Bumpus. They're like, man, the ball

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Speaker 4: is catching the receiver. That's that's what the placement of

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Speaker 4: the ball he's He's putting it only where the JS

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Speaker 4: San or Cooper Cup whoever can catch it, and it's

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Speaker 4: catching them. They all all they have to do is

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Speaker 4: And then even with the you know, throughout the season,

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Speaker 4: kind of kill it entower season and not have at

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Speaker 4: least one or two little hiccups. And so he had

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Speaker 4: his little hiccups, but he was able to recover from that.

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Speaker 4: And I don't think that you're asking him to win

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Speaker 4: him to play free and I think he I think

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Speaker 4: they've been able to do that. And if they get

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Speaker 4: this running game going, yeah, and then get back to

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Speaker 4: the play action pass and you know, helping move in

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Speaker 4: the Scott's the limit for this offense. That's why it's

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Speaker 4: not Sam Darnold, it's the offense.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I totally Ray Roberts is with us, And you just

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Speaker 2: led me perfectly into the next question, Ray, because I

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Speaker 2: was going to ask you about the running game, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this was a problem about a month and

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Speaker 2: a half ago. You know, it's all we talked about. Man,

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Speaker 2: these guys can't run the ball for Jack squat. You know,

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Speaker 2: is is it going to change? Is this is this

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Speaker 2: who they are? Is there time to change it? And

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Speaker 2: I think most people we talked to kind of said, hey, man,

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Speaker 2: it's kind of getting to that point of the year

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Speaker 2: where this is what it is, and then they pop

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Speaker 2: for a buck seventy one against the Rams, one hundred

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Speaker 2: against the Niners, which is all season high. So are

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Speaker 2: you buying that the running game has had some kind

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Speaker 2: of rebirth here in Seattle?

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Speaker 3: Is it bad defenses that they're playing? What gives it?

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Speaker 1: Could be a.

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Speaker 4: Little bit of both, you know what I'm saying. But

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Speaker 4: as long as it's given the guys confidence that they

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Speaker 4: can do the stuff, then that's all that matters to me.

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Speaker 4: The thing that the way they view the running game

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Speaker 4: just throwing body blows with the running game and then eventually,

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Speaker 4: you know, people break, whether that's in the passing game

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Speaker 4: they were finishing with close to one hundred yards rushing

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Speaker 4: between the two of them and Sam Darnold every now

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Speaker 3: Well, we got Ray another week and a half or so.

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Speaker 4: there was like I could have stepped up in the pocket.

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Speaker 1: In some of those uh spaces where he's throw in

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Speaker 1: the football.

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Speaker 4: Then later in the season there was more push in

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Speaker 4: the middle of the offense and so he couldn't step

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Speaker 4: in the throws and that type of stuff. So it's

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Speaker 4: never like one singular thing that is uh causing that,

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Speaker 4: you know, some of these things that happen. Sometimes there's pressure,

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Speaker 4: sometimes there's a tip football, sometimes there's great defense, and

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Speaker 4: then other times you'd be like, what the hell are

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Speaker 4: you doing? You know, so, uh, it's a little bit

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Speaker 4: of all of that.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna find this picture and said.

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Speaker 1: I want to.

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Speaker 4: I mean because I always thought that that was like

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Speaker 4: one of the coolest coolest things was to go there

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Speaker 4: and do that, like I talk about it, you know,

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Speaker 4: all the time, and so it just probably just caught

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Speaker 4: me at a at a weird time.

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Speaker 1: Uh, you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I'll probably trying to look at all the stars and

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Speaker 4: stuff that were walking.

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Speaker 2: Through that that's a different one. That's a different base

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Speaker 2: to show you how fat I was there. By the way,

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Speaker 2: all right, Ray, you're the man. Great stuff. Go Hawks

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Speaker 2: and we'll talk some buddy.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely hit me up when you need me by button.

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Speaker 2: Ray Roberts with us. We're gonna break good stuff from Ray,

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Speaker 2: come back and react to it. We got John Wilner

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Speaker 2: joining us a five on ninety three three kJ RFM from.

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Speaker 2: you until six twenty tonight before cracking hockey. They call

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Speaker 5: If I knew who see him Punk, would I totally

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Speaker 5: the wrestler.

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Speaker 2: All right, So let's talk about that Seahawk run game

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Speaker 2: for a second here, right, because we talked about this

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Speaker 2: a lot throughout the season. Raise your hand, actually know

487
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Speaker 2: what raising your hand on radio does no good? So

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Speaker 2: I don't know makes like, yeah, just say hi, I

489
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Speaker 2: was gonna say, make some kind of like a Roy Kent,

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Speaker 2: you know, grunting sound or whatever. Just give me some

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Speaker 2: kind of signal if you thought at any point of

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Speaker 2: the year that the Seahawk run game was going to

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Speaker 2: be potentially a problem for them, yes, okay, yes, And

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Speaker 2: now they've gone for a Buck seventy one, a Bucks

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Speaker 2: sixty three, and a Buck eighty against the Rams, Carolina

496
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Speaker 2: and San Francisco and they finished the year eleventh in

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Speaker 2: the NFL.

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Speaker 3: And rushing I mean that's crazy, well, right, they're rushing yards.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but they run the at a higher propensive any

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Speaker 5: time in the NFL, So they're going to finish Where.

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Speaker 2: Were they in yards per carry? By the way, do

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Speaker 2: we know I can look it up for are they

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Speaker 2: finishing yards per carry? Because I just think even being

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Speaker 2: in the top fifteen in rushing yards per game, considering

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Speaker 2: how piss poor they were early in the year, is

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Speaker 2: a pretty freaking big accomplishment by them. I think we

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Speaker 2: can all agree that their rushing offense looks a lot

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Speaker 2: better now than it did earlier in the year.

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Speaker 3: Man, So are we buying this?

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Speaker 2: Are we buying this resurgence by the Seahawk rushing offense

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Speaker 2: that they are back, that they've found something? Or do

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Speaker 2: we believe this is all because they've just not been

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Speaker 2: playing great rushing defenses.

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Speaker 5: No, I think it's more because they found something. They're

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Speaker 5: tied for twenty fourth in yards per carry.

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Speaker 2: How many teams were tied for twenty fourth, by the way,

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Speaker 2: you know, three.

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Speaker 5: Green Bay, Tampa Bay in Seattle four point one yards

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Speaker 5: of carry. But you know, over the last three games,

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Speaker 5: if you just filter by that, they're number four, right

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Speaker 5: bind Pittsburgh, Baltimore and San Francisco.

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Speaker 3: Y carrier got it, and so they were worse than

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Speaker 3: I thought.

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Speaker 5: They'd be the first two months of the season, and

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Speaker 5: I guess they're better than I thought they'd be the

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Speaker 5: last month. I thought they'd be somewhere in that, you know,

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Speaker 5: four and a half yards to carry for the season,

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Speaker 5: somewhere middle of the pack. We heard that Clint Kubiak

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Speaker 5: was a run first guy. He's been a run first guy.

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Speaker 5: It just didn't work for a long time. But maybe

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Speaker 5: they're doing like like Ray Roberts said, they've found a

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Speaker 5: few things that have worked. Hugh mentioned they have gone

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Speaker 5: away from the gap scheme. They have gone to just

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Speaker 5: the zone blocking scheme and it's helped out. And let's

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Speaker 5: hope that that can continue and we can be like

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Speaker 5: the Indianapolis Colts. Peyton Manning, like Ray, talked about how

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Speaker 5: they ran their way to the Super Bowl Championship.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm looking at and again, this is just yards

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Speaker 2: per game, which is probably more of an apt way

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Speaker 2: to judge rushing defenses than rushing offenses, because if teams

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Speaker 2: felt like they could run the ball on opposing defenses,

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Speaker 2: they would do it more right. Probably The forty nine

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Speaker 2: Ers finished eleventh in the NFL in rush defense. The

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Speaker 2: Rams finished twelfth in the NFL and rush defense, and

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Speaker 2: the Carolina Panthers finished twentieth in the NFL in run defenses,

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Speaker 2: So you know, those are decent run defenses. You know,

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Speaker 2: Panthers aren't great, but the Rams and Niners are okay,

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Speaker 2: and they destroyed them. What really kind of turned me on, actually, Dick,

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Speaker 2: watching the game on Saturday night is how few tackles

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Speaker 2: those guys even had to break to get to the

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Speaker 2: second levels on Saturday. I mean, there were holes the

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Speaker 2: size of frickin' buses in that game on Saturday night

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Speaker 2: against San Francisco. I mean, if you just watched Zach

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Speaker 2: Charberney and Kenny Walker run the ball on Saturday night,

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Speaker 2: and you would not watch them all year long, you

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Speaker 2: would think, man, this one of the better running teams

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Speaker 2: in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: Watching that game, you don't normally get a sense of

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Speaker 5: how a game is going to go from the first

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Speaker 5: three or four plays. But when I watched Ken Walker

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Speaker 5: just gash and like you said, not even get touched

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Speaker 5: by a defensive player until he was five yards into

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Speaker 5: the secondary on that first drive, You're like, oh my god,

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Speaker 5: if this is the way it's going to be the

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Speaker 5: whole game. This is gonna be a bludgeoning, and it

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Speaker 5: turned out to be a bludgeoning.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I just I don't know, man.

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Speaker 2: I kind of feel like the Seahawks recipe to winning

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Speaker 2: the entire thing is with the run game and the

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Speaker 2: defense like it was in twenty thirteen. And if they

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Speaker 2: can run the ball the way they've been running the

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Speaker 2: ball the last three weeks, I just don't know how

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Speaker 2: they how they get stopped. I just don't And I

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Speaker 2: don't want to be cocky. I don't want to be arrogant.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to guarantee or predict anything. I hate that, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we're gonna be scared, you know what, lists

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Speaker 2: no matter what game they play, the further this thing goes,

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Speaker 2: and the NFC Championship or the Super Bowl, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you've it's all or nothing at that point. But I

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Speaker 2: just think adding this extra element, now they went from

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Speaker 2: a great passing team and they still are a very

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Speaker 2: good passing team. Jackson Smith and Jig has slowed down

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Speaker 2: a little bit. Obviously. Some of that may be because

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Speaker 2: of the arrival of Rashid Shiheed. I don't know, but

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Speaker 2: I just feel like this new element of the run

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Speaker 2: gives them a flavor that I don't think they've had

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Speaker 2: this all year long like this. I haven't seen the

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Speaker 2: Seahawks run the ball like this the entire season. It's

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Speaker 2: one of the reasons why yesterday on the radio program,

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Speaker 2: when you and I were talking about what the expectations are,

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Speaker 2: part of the reason why I expect them to be

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Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl is because of Zach Sharperday and

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Speaker 2: Kenny Watkner.

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Speaker 3: What I've seen for.

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Speaker 5: Three weeks well on the way they play offense, though,

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Speaker 5: is going to lend itself to lower scoring games and

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Speaker 5: closer games. When was the last time we actually played

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Speaker 5: a game where, beyond a shadow of a doubt the

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Speaker 5: entire game, you just knew we were going to win.

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Speaker 5: It's been all the way, probably since Minnesota that was November.

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Speaker 3: Every other game was like six six at.

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Speaker 2: Half to the Falcon game Atlanta, they kicked the piss

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Speaker 2: out of them.

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Speaker 3: That was a thirty seven to nine.

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Speaker 5: Years it was sixty six at a half time.

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Speaker 2: For your point is well taken. I mean it's like

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Speaker 2: the Titan game. They gave up a bunch of junk

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Speaker 2: points late in the game. The Vikings, I think it's

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Speaker 2: the Vikings were the last time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, probably.

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Speaker 2: I mean, didn't you though think that the Cult game,

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Speaker 2: even though it was close that Nah, they're not losing

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Speaker 2: the Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 5: No, I didn't think they were going to lose any

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Speaker 5: one of those games. But I didn't have the feeling.

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Speaker 5: I didn't have the beyond a shadow of a doubt

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Speaker 5: this is a win. The last time I had a

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Speaker 5: beyond a shadow of a doubt this is a win

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Speaker 5: was Max Brosmer. I was like, there is a zero

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Speaker 5: percent chance that Max Brosmer wins a game against this defense.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, I guys, again, you're looking for weaknesses. You're

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Speaker 2: looking for cracks in the armor that potentially could derail

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Speaker 2: this thing. And not to state the obvious, like we've

625
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Speaker 2: talked about a million times today and other shows we've done,

626
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Speaker 2: but if the quarterback ends up getting hit from his

627
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Speaker 2: blind side and fumbls the ball at the four yard line,

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Speaker 2: that's a problem. That's a problem for any team they play.

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Speaker 2: Injuries are going to be a problem. So outside of

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Speaker 2: the things that every team deals with, what is unique

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Speaker 2: to this team is what I'm asking when I bring

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Speaker 2: up that question. I'm not bringing up the question of hey,

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Speaker 2: what will derail any team in the playoffs. I'm talking

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Speaker 2: about what will derail this team. And if the Seahawks

635
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Speaker 2: running game the last three weeks is fool's gold, that

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Speaker 2: is something that could derail this thing. If Charles Cross'

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Speaker 2: is hammy doesn't heal and he goes out there and

638
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 2: can't beat Charles Cross, that could potentially derail this thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of another reason why this football

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Speaker 2: team should not be picked to win the NFC, if

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Speaker 2: not win.

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Speaker 3: The entire thing.

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Speaker 6: We talk about unique problems, right I think the whole

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Speaker 6: Like if the running games breaks down, that's a problem

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Speaker 6: for some teams. If you know, if your offensive line,

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Speaker 6: if your left tackle isn't heavy, that there's no unique

647
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Speaker 6: problem because NFL teams, I mean, just too many of

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Speaker 6: them in the field right now. Now about this, I'm

649
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Speaker 6: sorry enough to you. How about I give you one.

650
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Speaker 6: How about the red zone touchdowns that we have not

651
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Speaker 6: been scoring. How about the fact that they're five for

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Speaker 6: fourteen in.

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Speaker 2: The last four weeks when it comes to red zone

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Speaker 2: I mean, like, for example, the red zone problem they

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Speaker 2: had in the first drive of the Niner game was

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Speaker 2: not an issue because they won the game. It would

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Speaker 2: have been an issue if Sam Darnold had fumbled that

658
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: ball stepped on Jalen Sundell's foot, then all of a sudden,

659
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Speaker 2: not scoring in the red zone Jackson becomes an issue.

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Speaker 3: Right exactly.

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Speaker 6: So that's their a unique and listen, I don't know

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Speaker 6: the x's and o's enough about the rest of the

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Speaker 6: teams in the playoffs to know if that's an issue

664
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Speaker 6: for somebody else.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it is.

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Speaker 6: Here's what I do know is that I think the

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00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 6: rest of the teams in the league, except for now

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Speaker 6: well maybe the Rams, but they all have multiple things

669
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Speaker 6: that can go wrong, and I think multiple things that

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00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 6: are likely to go wrong and cost them.

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Speaker 3: Like Buffalo.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, sure their offense if Josh Allen, but their defense

673
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 6: is already bad like that.

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Speaker 5: You can't have a whole unit that's terrible exactly, and

675
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 5: Buffalo's entire unit is terribly.

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Speaker 6: So my point is this is that the Seahawks have,

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Speaker 6: I think tied with the Rams, the fewest things, yes,

678
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 6: that can go that are likely to go wrong, and.

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Speaker 5: One of them is Darnold. I think I think you're right,

680
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 5: they have the fewest. It come for me, it comes

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Speaker 5: back to what's unique to Seattle is Seattle is the

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Speaker 5: only true Super Bowl Championship contender that has an offensive

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Speaker 5: line ranked in the middle of the road. I looked

684
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 5: at him today, Coward put him up on his show.

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00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 5: He did pass PFF pass blocking and run blocking. If

686
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 5: you added up that number pass blocking, run blocking, I

687
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Speaker 5: believe it was only the Chargers that.

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Speaker 3: Were worse than Seattle.

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Speaker 5: There may have been one other team in the playoffs,

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Speaker 5: but I don't believe it was a Super Bowl legit,

691
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 5: Super Bowl Championship contending team. That to me is the

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Speaker 5: house of cards that could fall because if the pass blocking,

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Speaker 5: if the pass blocking isn't there, then Sam Donald is flushed,

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00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 5: he makes mistakes, he gets hit, he fumbles a lot

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Speaker 5: of times. That's what's causing Sam Donald's turnovers is when

696
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Speaker 5: he gets hit.

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Speaker 2: Right well, PFF also has the Seahawks as the fourth

698
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: best offense in football and the fourth best defense in football.

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Speaker 2: And we just got done talking about this yesterday. For

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Speaker 2: the first time in franchise history, they have a top

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Speaker 2: three scoring offense and a top three scoring defense. They've

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Speaker 2: never done that. So with all those issues that they

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Speaker 2: potentially could have, and again, guys, this is fricking January.

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Speaker 2: I know it's been a while since the Hawks have

705
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: had the number one seed. We got to remind people

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Speaker 2: how this works. Now, it's been eleven years, for crying

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00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 2: out loud, haven't played a playoff game in front of

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Speaker 2: fans since twenty seventeen. January of twenty seventeen, it's been

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Speaker 2: nine years. You and I are going to a playoff

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00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: game next weekend for the first time in nine years,

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Speaker 2: and I just think about where you were nine years ago.

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Speaker 3: Just stupid, how much our lives have changed in nine years.

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Speaker 2: So the way this works is we are no longer

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Speaker 2: comparing ourselves to the rest of the NFL. We are

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Speaker 2: comparing ourselves to the elite of the elite in the

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Speaker 2: National Football League.

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Speaker 3: Like, you can't just.

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Speaker 2: Get away with being okay, you have to be awesome

719
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Speaker 2: on at least one side of the ball.

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Speaker 3: And I agree with you, man.

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Speaker 2: I think the Seahawk offense is good enough, the Seahawk

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Speaker 2: defense is elite, and if they run the ball the

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Speaker 2: way they have the last three weeks, which I'm really

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Speaker 2: curious if they can do that, I think they're unbeatable.

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Speaker 3: I honestly do.

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Speaker 2: Compared to the rest of the NFL in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: This year, not every year, but this year, I think

728
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Speaker 2: they're unbeatable. If they play like that, I just don't

729
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: know how they get taken down if they continue to

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Speaker 2: run the ball. I'll tell you what I would do

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Speaker 2: if I were an opposing defensive coordinator, I blitzed the

732
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Speaker 2: crap out of Sam Darnald, you have to take time.

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Speaker 2: I would come after him with as much heat as

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Speaker 2: possible because and make him prove he can overcome it.

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Speaker 6: Like you said, if the run game is on, then

736
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Speaker 6: Sam doesn't need to be relied on to you know,

737
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Speaker 6: make big plays and you know, potentially make mistakes and

738
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Speaker 6: honestly even the Rams. If our running game is functioning

739
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Speaker 6: against the Rams, yeah we're going to be in it

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Speaker 6: like we were a few weeks ago. But at that point,

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Speaker 6: I mean, listen, at the end of the day, if

742
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Speaker 6: you're overtime lost to the Rams in the NFC Championship

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Speaker 6: right now, we've talked about this yesterday. I'm just I'm

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Speaker 6: not gonna be angry about that because they are the

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Speaker 6: only team close to us.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what, man, if they do see

747
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: the Rams again and their defensive coordinators Chris Shula. He

748
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Speaker 2: forced Sam Darnold into throwing six picks in eight and

749
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Speaker 2: a half quarters, right, I mean, if there's a kryptonite,

750
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Speaker 2: maybe it's that guy in his d We'll get a break.

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Speaker 2: Textimonials John Wilner at five, Cracking Hockey at six point thirty.

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