WEBVTT - Home Security | Hour 2

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM 640, you're listening to Dean Sharp, the House Whisperer,

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<v Speaker 1>on demand on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>I am being joined this morning by the other House Whisperer,

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<v Speaker 2>my better half, my design partner, Tina, who's sitting across

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<v Speaker 2>the table from me. Good morning to you as well.

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<v Speaker 2>We're in the second hour of the show. We're in

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<v Speaker 2>the second hour. That's what I just said. I'm agreeing

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<v Speaker 2>with you. It is the second hour. You're being very affirming.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for that encouragement. Are

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<v Speaker 2>you practicing that mirroring conversational technique in which you listen

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<v Speaker 2>to somebody talking and you just repeat back to them

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<v Speaker 2>the last part of the sentence that they just said?

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<v Speaker 2>I sure am. I'm repeating back the things I hear.

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<v Speaker 2>Which you just did, again. I did it again. All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Tina's here. She's relatively useless at the moment, but she's here.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey.

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<v Speaker 2>See, that got an original sentence out of you, didn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't it? It sure did.

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<v Speaker 4>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>We are talking home security today, and we will return

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<v Speaker 2>to that conversation in just a bit. But here we

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<v Speaker 2>are in the middle of the show. where we traditionally

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<v Speaker 2>go to the phones. And we got some calls on

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<v Speaker 2>the board, but I also want to let you know

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<v Speaker 2>we got room for you, my friend. There's room for

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<v Speaker 2>you on our call board today. So the number to

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<v Speaker 2>reach me, 833-2-ASK-DEAN. 833, the numeral 2, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>just spell out ASK-DEAN. 833-2-ASK-DEAN. It's just that simple. Anything

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<v Speaker 2>that's got you scratching your head about your home. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it. We'll put our heads together. We'll figure

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<v Speaker 2>it out. All right. I want to talk to Margie. Margie,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome home. Can I hear Margie?

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<v Speaker 4>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Hang on. Hang on. We're working it out. We're working

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<v Speaker 2>it out. Margie, are you there?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I am. Hi.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning. How can I help you?

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<v Speaker 4>Good morning.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>Aside from loving your show, I don't know if this

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<v Speaker 6>is a question that you could answer or not, but

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a senior and I live in California, Southern, and

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<v Speaker 6>I'm trying to decide if a home is worth purchasing

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<v Speaker 6>at this stage or a condo or a townhouse. But

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<v Speaker 6>I just was wondering if you had any thoughts on that.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, give me some more info. So, you know, When

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<v Speaker 2>you're asking whether a home is worth purchasing at this

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<v Speaker 2>stage as a senior, I think the real important question,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, are you looking to build equity and be

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<v Speaker 2>able to sell it and move on? Are you thinking, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get into a forever home situation? Do

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<v Speaker 2>you have somebody you want to hand the home off

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<v Speaker 2>to in the future? What are your thoughts?

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<v Speaker 6>No, I don't have anybody to hand it off to

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<v Speaker 6>in the future. And uh, equity probably doesn't even make

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<v Speaker 6>sense at my age. So that's why I'm really struggling,

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<v Speaker 6>especially with the cost, you know, of homes in California, um,

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<v Speaker 6>whether or not it's worth it anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's, that's the big question, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 6>And I think the repairs, you know, all the repairs

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<v Speaker 6>that usually you have to have, you know, when you

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<v Speaker 6>have a home.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Um, I think that's really, I mean, I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the one who can answer that question for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I can certainly tell you this. I mean, of the

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<v Speaker 2>three categories, the main category, or four, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>say you're renting, renting anything. Number two, if you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to buy, you're looking at a home or a townhome

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<v Speaker 2>or a condo. Condos are easier to get into as

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<v Speaker 2>far as cost is concerned. Condos are, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>might be thinking in those categories, terms for you. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know why exactly. I don't know all the details,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm just thinking, okay, of the three, a home,

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<v Speaker 2>a single family home, it has the most equity growing

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<v Speaker 2>potential in it and the fastest equity growing potential. But

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<v Speaker 2>everything is on you there, all the repairs, all the upkeep,

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<v Speaker 2>it meets yours. And so from the property line in

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<v Speaker 2>It's all you. It's all on you. And if that's

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<v Speaker 2>what your dream is, then that's what you should do.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people these days are kind of splitting

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<v Speaker 2>the baby and going for townhomes because townhomes have a

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<v Speaker 2>good equity growth, but there's HOA and people take care

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<v Speaker 2>of the outside stuff. You only take care of the

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<v Speaker 2>inside stuff. But of the three, condos are the most

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<v Speaker 2>in control by other people. It's just the interior that

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<v Speaker 2>is essentially... yours in terms of ownership. And so if

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<v Speaker 2>you find yourself in a good condo complex in which

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<v Speaker 2>the HOA there is really taking care of things, the

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<v Speaker 2>grounds are lovely, all the rest of the condos are

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<v Speaker 2>well kept, the paint, the fencing, the sidewalks, all of that,

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<v Speaker 2>then you may end up in a situation where you've

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<v Speaker 2>got that sense of ownership and belonging, which you're not

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<v Speaker 2>paying rent to somebody. And if the price is right,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe something like that in which you don't have the

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<v Speaker 2>burden of taking care of all the everything about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, it does.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think ultimately it comes down to your priorities too.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't think If Tina, you know, who's

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<v Speaker 2>sitting across the table from me, staring at me here,

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<v Speaker 2>was ever in a situation where she wanted to downsize

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, she would, I guarantee you, elect to live

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<v Speaker 2>in a shack in the wilderness before she would buy

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<v Speaker 2>a condo. Because for her, it's the proxy. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't mean to say this in a way that demeans

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<v Speaker 2>Tina in any way. You just got to understand, because

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<v Speaker 2>she's the sweetest, most friendliest person you'll ever know.

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<v Speaker 3>But.

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<v Speaker 2>At the end of the day, Tina will pay big

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<v Speaker 2>money to get away from other people. I mean, big money.

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<v Speaker 2>So the thought of sharing walls with other people living

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<v Speaker 2>next door for Tina, that would be a down. But

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<v Speaker 2>that's not the case for everybody. That's why it really is.

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<v Speaker 2>It really comes down to you. But does that help

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<v Speaker 2>at all?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, absolutely, because I do feel more like Tina.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go. Okay, so I think when you're making

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<v Speaker 2>those big moves, you really should not hesitate to write

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<v Speaker 2>out the dream list. We talk about this in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of design all the time, and I know you've listened

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<v Speaker 2>to the show. Dreaming and prioritizing your own you know,

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<v Speaker 2>emotional wants and desires, that's free. You're not having to

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<v Speaker 2>spend any money yet. You might as well write out,

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<v Speaker 2>think through all of those factors and let them all

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<v Speaker 2>boil down and then filter them with the realities and

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<v Speaker 2>the constraints that you have in your life. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think you'll come to the best possible, you know, middle

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<v Speaker 2>ground with it all.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, I've been struggling with it for quite some time.

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<v Speaker 6>But I really appreciate it. I always like other people's

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<v Speaker 6>opinion that I respect, and yours is one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, well, thanks, Margie. Thanks so much for the call.

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<v Speaker 2>We're up against a break, and so best of luck.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me know what you decide. Please, please let me know.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, more of your calls when we return. You're

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<v Speaker 2>home with Dean Sharp, the House Whisperer.

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<v Speaker 7>You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp, on demand from

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<v Speaker 7>KFI AM640.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking home security, but we are here in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the show, which means I'm taking calls right now.

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<v Speaker 2>And when it comes to your calls, any topic is

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<v Speaker 2>wide open. Whatever you need to talk to me about

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<v Speaker 2>your home about. The number to reach me, 833-2-ASK-DEAN. 833,

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<v Speaker 2>the numeral 2, and you just spell out Ask Dean. 833-2-ASK-DEAN.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me a call. Let's talk about your home. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk to James. about his home. Hey, James,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome home. Okay, hang tight. We're having a little phone

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<v Speaker 2>issue here today. James, are you there, bud?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, Dean, I'm here.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, good morning, my friend. Welcome home.

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<v Speaker 4>Good to be with you on this beautiful, cloudy, rainy day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly. Exactly my thought. Exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>So, My question for you is we upgraded our electrical panel, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>approximately four years ago and we didn't do the entire

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<v Speaker 4>wiring and I'm not sure if the guy changed the

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<v Speaker 4>breakers at all. Um, but we just put a new

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<v Speaker 4>box in, um, and it's been operating fine until recently.

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<v Speaker 4>Our kitchen, when we use more than one appliance, that

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<v Speaker 4>breaker blows and now in our sunroom, which has a TV,

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<v Speaker 4>standalone AC, is also on the same breaker with the garage,

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<v Speaker 4>which has the opener. Now that breaker is blowing. My

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<v Speaker 4>question to you is, can I duct tape it and

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<v Speaker 4>just maybe split the breakers between the garage and the sunroom?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure about the kitchen. Or should we just

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<v Speaker 4>go all in and get the whole thing replaced?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Wires and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>So.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a bit of a complex question. So, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>let me first ask you this. When you said that

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<v Speaker 2>you upgraded the panel, okay, what does that mean? You

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<v Speaker 2>tore out the old panel and got a new main

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<v Speaker 2>panel for the house?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll do anything in the house except electrical, so that's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of the reason why I called. I'm sorry if

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<v Speaker 4>I don't have a more in-depth explanation.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just trying to get a handle on the right way

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<v Speaker 2>to answer your question. So you have a brand-new electrical panel,

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<v Speaker 2>which means you're not struggling with old breakers. Because you

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<v Speaker 2>get a brand-new electrical panel, brand-new electrical panel comes with

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<v Speaker 2>new breakers. Okay? In other words, it's... Okay, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's not... You know, you don't have... you know,

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<v Speaker 2>60 year old breakers fit into a brand new electrical panel.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that's the first very, very important question.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, now the question of when the panel got switched out. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>What you have is you've got all of these circuits

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<v Speaker 2>running to the main panel. So you have a circuit

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<v Speaker 2>for the, you know, the family room outlets, and you've

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<v Speaker 2>got a circuit for the lights in the family room.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got a circuit for the kitchen outlets and you've got,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, all these different circuits. And the question of

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<v Speaker 2>whether or not those circuits are get their own individual breaker,

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<v Speaker 2>or whether for some reason or other the electrician piled

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<v Speaker 2>on two or three circuits into a single breaker or not,

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<v Speaker 2>that is a question that sounds like needs to be

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<v Speaker 2>answered in regards to your panel. And so that's something

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<v Speaker 2>that you need to have an electrician take a look

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<v Speaker 2>at and evaluate for you. But I will tell you this,

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<v Speaker 2>every circuit in your home should ideally have its own

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<v Speaker 2>breaker connected to it. So in other words, we don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to, in fact, it's against electrical code to add

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<v Speaker 2>multiple circuits into a single breaker. Every set of lead

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<v Speaker 2>wire and common wire, the black or the red wires

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<v Speaker 2>and the white wires that come into the panel, Those

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<v Speaker 2>should be going into individual breakers, rated for whatever it

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<v Speaker 2>is the gauge of the wire is. The gauge of

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<v Speaker 2>the wire in your home, most of it is 14-gauge wire.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of it might be 12-gauge wire. I know this

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<v Speaker 2>is getting a little technical in the weeds, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just telling you that's what you've got in your house. 14-gauge,

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<v Speaker 2>that's lighter wire. That's for regular outlets and lamp circuits

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. Heavier duty things, 12-gauge wire, that's

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<v Speaker 2>for 20-amp breakers, okay? Most of the breakers in a

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<v Speaker 2>residential home are 15-amp breakers, and every circuit should have

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<v Speaker 2>its own, okay? Does that make sense? I'll tell you what, bud.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to keep you on hold, and we'll pick

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<v Speaker 2>this up on the other side of the break, all right?

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<v Speaker 2>You hang tight. You're home with Dean Sharp, the House Whisperer.

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<v Speaker 7>You're listening to home with Dean sharp on demand from

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<v Speaker 7>KFI AM six 40.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking home security today. Uh, and, but right now

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<v Speaker 2>we're middle of the show, which means we're taking your calls.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got James on the line. James, are you still

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<v Speaker 2>with me, bud?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, sir.

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<v Speaker 4>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, so I wanted to hold you over just to, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>to finish off, uh, our conversation about your electrical panel

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<v Speaker 2>and your electrical issues. Um, And I know that it

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<v Speaker 2>gets into the technical weeds, so I'm trying to keep

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<v Speaker 2>it as.

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<v Speaker 4>I understood what you said. And while the short time

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<v Speaker 4>I have left with you, I wanted to just say

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<v Speaker 4>that the assessment that you gave me of the electrician

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<v Speaker 4>piling on too many things and not issuing a particular

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<v Speaker 4>breaker for the circuits, I'm going to go with that.

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<v Speaker 4>The question I hope you could answer is when we

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<v Speaker 4>do get an electrician come out, The one that we had,

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<v Speaker 4>I think, was a little sketchy. What are some questions

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<v Speaker 4>that I can ask? And what should I be looking

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<v Speaker 4>out for to know that I'm not getting scammed?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. The questions you want to ask. Well, first of all,

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<v Speaker 2>you want a fully licensed electrician. Okay. And number two.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to make sure that that license is clean,

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<v Speaker 2>that there's no complaints on it. You want to check

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<v Speaker 2>their license as with every contractor with the California State

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<v Speaker 2>License Bureau. You go to CSLB.gov and just do a

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<v Speaker 2>license check right there and you get to learn everything

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<v Speaker 2>you need to know as far as their standing with things.

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<v Speaker 2>The second thing is you just want to tell them, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want any shortcuts. I don't want any shortcuts.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not rocket science here. I just want this

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<v Speaker 2>done right. So I got a new panel. I should

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<v Speaker 2>have room for more circuit breakers, and so ease off

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<v Speaker 2>and let's refigure these circuits. I need somebody to help

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<v Speaker 2>me figure out these circuits so that we're not having

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<v Speaker 2>this problem. So that's the basic of it, James. The

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<v Speaker 2>other thing that I want you to write down, though,

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<v Speaker 2>is that the weird thing about what you're saying– to me,

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<v Speaker 2>that has me scratching my head is that this work

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<v Speaker 2>was done about four years ago, but just recently you're

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<v Speaker 2>starting to see the breakers pop. So that's a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit trickier because if it was done wrong from day one,

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<v Speaker 2>then we should have probably seen things happen from day one. Although,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're using those couple of rooms differently right now

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<v Speaker 2>than you have been in the past, That could explain it.

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<v Speaker 2>So the other reasons, though, there's only about four things

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<v Speaker 2>that could be going on. You could have overloaded circuits.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we talked about, right? Too many circuits going

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<v Speaker 2>into a single breaker or too many things on a

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<v Speaker 2>breaker size that just isn't designed to handle it. There

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<v Speaker 2>could be some issues with appliances or the things that

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<v Speaker 2>you've got plugged into it. And here's where that comes

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<v Speaker 2>into play. If they put in, and you just write

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<v Speaker 2>this down, if they put in AFCI breakers, those are

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<v Speaker 2>arc fault circuit interrupter breakers, which, by the way, is

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<v Speaker 2>code for most areas now. Arc fault breakers are different

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<v Speaker 2>than GFI breakers or standard breakers. They're super, super sensitive breakers.

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<v Speaker 2>And they have a reputation for getting more sensitive as

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<v Speaker 2>time goes on. And sometimes they just start going. They're

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<v Speaker 2>sensitive to minor wiring quirks, aging electronics, power fluctuations, all

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff. That's also something to look at.

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<v Speaker 2>But maybe the other culprit is this, loose wiring or

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<v Speaker 2>a poorly connected breaker. And this would go back to

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<v Speaker 2>the electrician who's just kind of maybe sketchy and not

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<v Speaker 2>putting in the full effort. When it comes to tightening

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<v Speaker 2>wires down in an electrical panel, over the course of

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<v Speaker 2>my career, I've seen the differential between electricians who take

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<v Speaker 2>their time and electricians who are just blowing and going

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<v Speaker 2>being the time that they spend tightening wire nuts and

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<v Speaker 2>clamping wires into breakers. Believe it or not, electrical wires,

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<v Speaker 2>when they've got currents running through them, even copper wire,

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<v Speaker 2>aluminum does this like crazy, by the way, but copper wires.

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<v Speaker 2>they expand and contract a little bit. As the circuit

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<v Speaker 2>runs through it, they expand a little bit, then they contract.

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<v Speaker 2>So they can loosen themselves in a connection. And once

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<v Speaker 2>you start to get a slightly loosened connection, like the

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<v Speaker 2>wire at the breaker itself, then it can start creating

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<v Speaker 2>tiny micro arcs where the electricity is jumping across in

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<v Speaker 2>the air from one surface to the other. And as

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<v Speaker 2>a result, boom, breakers start popping all over the place.

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<v Speaker 2>They start tripping all over the place. So sometimes, sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>it's as simple as somebody didn't tighten the stuff down

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<v Speaker 2>well enough and four years in, now you're starting to

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<v Speaker 2>live the consequences of it. But again, none of this

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<v Speaker 2>replaces the idea you need to get a qualified electrician

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<v Speaker 2>in there to take a look at it. And, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>now at least you're kind of informed as to where

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<v Speaker 2>the scope of the thing is going to be. Nobody

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<v Speaker 2>should be telling you that you got to pull the

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<v Speaker 2>wires out of your house. I'll tell you that.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not about that. It's about something else, James, probably

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<v Speaker 2>far simpler, uh, than, uh, than that. Cause those wires

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<v Speaker 2>have served your home for, you know, like 60 plus

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<v Speaker 2>years and, uh, they didn't just go bad overnight.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I think you nailed it. Cause when I went

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<v Speaker 4>out to the box and I moved the breaker around, uh, it,

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<v Speaker 4>the sunroom and the garage are not operational again. So

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<v Speaker 4>I think you nailed it as far as what I

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<v Speaker 4>need to be asking questions for. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, brother. Hope, hope that helps.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it did Dean. Thank you very much, man. All right, bud.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk soon. Good luck. Let me know how that works out. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>do I have time to, yeah, of course I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course I'm going to start another call. Uh, let's

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<v Speaker 2>talk about, uh, let's talk to Lily. Hey, Lily, welcome home. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to switch Lily over. And then there she is. Hey, Lily.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi.

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<v Speaker 3>Dean, I'm so happy to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm so happy to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, we have a... three-foot-high smooth-finished stucco wall.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh-oh.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just redone.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>And we put a natural flagstone cap on it. It

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<v Speaker 3>has probably a one-and-a-half-inch overhang. But we recently noticed that

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<v Speaker 3>other walls that are similar in the neighborhood have After

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<v Speaker 3>the rain, the minerals we think from the flagstone drain

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<v Speaker 3>down the walls and stain the walls. Is there something

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<v Speaker 3>we can put either on the wall, on the stucco,

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<v Speaker 3>or on the flagstone? to stop this from happening so

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<v Speaker 3>our wall isn't affected the same way?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, that can help. It's not an absolute guarantee,

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<v Speaker 2>but for sure it can help. Okay, so let's review.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a three-foot-high wall, block wall?

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<v Speaker 3>It's a block wall, and the stucco matches our house.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you've covered in stucco to match your house. The

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<v Speaker 2>stucco itself, painted....

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<v Speaker 4>No, it's not painted.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so is that because the stucco on your house

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<v Speaker 2>is like a smooth coat with the color in the stucco?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's correct. It is a smooth coat.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so it's not a painted wall because the stucco

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<v Speaker 2>on the house is a smooth coat and the color

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<v Speaker 2>is in the stucco, so you don't have a painted house.

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<v Speaker 2>You have a colorized stuccoed house. Okay, so here's the trick, okay?

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<v Speaker 2>You want to seal them both. Seal both the stone

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<v Speaker 2>cap and the stucco, okay? But, and this is important,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to put on a penetrating sealer on the stucco, okay?

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<v Speaker 2>A penetrating sealer that in no, and I say that

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<v Speaker 2>because any other kind of sealer that you put on

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<v Speaker 2>the stucco runs the risk of slightly darkening the stucco.

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<v Speaker 2>It could give it that permanent wet look, and now

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<v Speaker 2>it's not going to match the house. It's still going

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<v Speaker 2>to look like the house, but it's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a different tone. It's going to look like the wall

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<v Speaker 2>is wet all the time. So a penetrating sealer that

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<v Speaker 2>will help to seal the stucco, and you could put

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<v Speaker 2>two or three coats on. And that's not the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thing that gets used and abused, so you probably

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<v Speaker 2>won't have to do that for several years after the fact.

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<v Speaker 2>But a penetrating sealer on the stucco will certainly help

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<v Speaker 2>whatever mineralization happens to run down the surface of the

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<v Speaker 2>wall from sticking and getting into the pores of the stucco,

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<v Speaker 2>getting into the porosity of the stucco and bonding to

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<v Speaker 2>the stucco and causing a permanent stain. So that's one

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<v Speaker 2>safeguard there. is seal the stucco. Up on top, on

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<v Speaker 2>the stone itself, I would put on a really, really

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<v Speaker 2>good surface sealer for the stone. Again, penetrating sealer, but

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<v Speaker 2>a high-quality stone sealer. So again, the water that hits

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<v Speaker 2>the stone cap isn't actually getting into the granulation of

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<v Speaker 2>the stone itself and having the opportunity to wash that

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<v Speaker 2>stone down onto the stucco wall. So is this an

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<v Speaker 2>absolute guarantee? No, it is not an absolute guarantee that

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<v Speaker 2>you won't have any of that transfer, but what you're

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<v Speaker 2>doing is you're completely minimizing the washout of the stone

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<v Speaker 2>against the wall. Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 3>That makes absolute sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Well, you go with that and let me know

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<v Speaker 2>how that works out. We're pushed up against a break

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<v Speaker 2>here again. That's all the time I've got for that one.

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<v Speaker 2>I really think that is going to alleviate most of

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<v Speaker 2>your concerns. And most of the time that that staining happens,

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<v Speaker 2>it's because somebody just leaves it all raw. And of course,

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<v Speaker 2>stone is going to be picked up and distribute itself

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<v Speaker 2>elsewhere in the ring. Everybody, when we come back, more

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<v Speaker 2>of your calls. You're home with Dean Sharp, the House Whisperer.

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<v Speaker 7>You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp, on demand from

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<v Speaker 7>KFI AM640.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking home security. We're actually going to return to

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<v Speaker 2>that topic right after the next break, and I will

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<v Speaker 2>have in studio with me my very special in-studio guests

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<v Speaker 2>from California Security Screens, because this is a true, true,

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<v Speaker 2>actual security device that can be connected to a house

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<v Speaker 2>that is worth noting. More information. more Southern California homes

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<v Speaker 2>should have security screens because of their owners' security concerns,

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<v Speaker 2>far more than the ones that simply have cameras and

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<v Speaker 2>monitoring devices and so on. But I know that it's

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of a foreign subject for a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's why we're going to have that conversation. That's

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<v Speaker 2>coming up right after this next break. But right now,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still taking calls, and I want to talk to Kim.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I talk to Kim, Tony? Let's talk to Kim.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Kim, welcome home.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, Dean. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>How can I help you today?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I've got two upstairs bathrooms, and one of them oftentimes, well,

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<v Speaker 5>not oftentimes, but sometimes smells like sewer.

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<v Speaker 2>Smells like sewer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And you want to know why?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>And what to do about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And what to do about it. All right, let me

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<v Speaker 2>ask you just a couple of questions about this particular

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<v Speaker 2>upstairs bathroom, the sink, right? The sink, that's what we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about, the sink?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Does it get as much use as the other bathrooms?

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 2>How much use, if any, does it get? Does it

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<v Speaker 2>get significantly less use than other bathrooms?

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<v Speaker 5>No, I wouldn't say significantly. I would say probably, well,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe 35% the amount of use as the other upstairs bathroom.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>So a lot less than the other bathroom. Okay. So

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<v Speaker 2>tell me this. How many hours and or days might

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<v Speaker 2>go by before somebody uses that sink?

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe three days at a time.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So yeah, that's not enough. Here's the reason I'm

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<v Speaker 2>asking is because probably the easiest, most common thing that

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<v Speaker 2>happens to a neglected bathroom is when people say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it got a kind of a sewer smell

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<v Speaker 2>in the bathroom. It's because sewer gases rise up through

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<v Speaker 2>our homes. And not a lot of folks realize that, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Sewer gases rise up from the city sewer, up the pipe,

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<v Speaker 2>up the drain pipes, up into our homes. And there

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<v Speaker 2>are devices built into our homes to stop those gases

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<v Speaker 2>from getting into the air that we breathe, into the

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<v Speaker 2>room itself. The simplest device is the P-trap, right? That

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<v Speaker 2>little curvy S-shaped, I should say, I always say S-shaped

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<v Speaker 2>because I just don't, I've never embraced the idea that

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<v Speaker 2>it's shaped like the letter P, but I guess it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a P laying on its side, okay? It's called

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<v Speaker 2>a P-trap not because of urine, but because it's shaped

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<v Speaker 2>like the letter P, or some plumber thought it was

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<v Speaker 2>shaped like the letter P. But the whole idea of

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<v Speaker 2>why underneath your sink there's that curvy pipe is that

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<v Speaker 2>the very last bit of water that you use in

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<v Speaker 2>the sink doesn't go all the way down the drain.

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<v Speaker 2>It gets stopped, and it rests inside that little curvy

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<v Speaker 2>part of the pipe. And with the water sitting there,

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<v Speaker 2>that water becomes a plug that blocks sewer gases from

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<v Speaker 2>coming up the drain and into the room. Now, over time,

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<v Speaker 2>let's say a week or two later, This, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>is sometimes when an abandoned, or I shouldn't say an abandoned,

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<v Speaker 2>an empty house that's being sold that hasn't anybody lived

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<v Speaker 2>in it for a month or two. This is why

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<v Speaker 2>realtors who know what they're doing will go to the

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<v Speaker 2>house ahead of time and will open the windows and

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<v Speaker 2>run water in all the sinks because the water that's

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<v Speaker 2>in the P-trap can evaporate. And when it evaporates, now

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<v Speaker 2>it's not blocking off the entire thing and sewer gases

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<v Speaker 2>can leach into the room and make the room smell weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Apart from that, though, you've got two other options. One,

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<v Speaker 2>you simply may have some bacterial growth growing down that

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<v Speaker 2>particular drain line, and that is contributing to the smell

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<v Speaker 2>inside the bathroom. And you're like, gross, wait, am I

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<v Speaker 2>going to catch a disease? No, you're not. It's just this.

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<v Speaker 2>You can add some enzymes. Green Gobbler is my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>one to recommend. A little bit of treatment of Green

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<v Speaker 2>Gobbler every two or three days for about two weeks

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<v Speaker 2>down that sink. And whatever residue is on the inside

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<v Speaker 2>of those drain lines will get eaten away, and that

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<v Speaker 2>smell will very likely cease to be. How's that? There

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<v Speaker 2>you go. All right, I'm up against a break. When

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<v Speaker 2>we come back, we're going to sit down with the

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<v Speaker 2>owners of California Security Screens, your home with Dean Sharp,

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