1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: Dias. You're making it up as they go along, Leader 2 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: fan Fan Radio. 3 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: Network, Frustrated and Kate fa n dot com. Two minutes 4 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: two seconds past the hour of three o'clock Central Standard Time, 5 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: Welcome back Thursday, production of the often combustible, occasionally controversial 6 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 2: Bumper to Bumper program on a rather chili fri a 7 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: Thursday afternoon here in the Twin cities of Minneapolis and 8 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 2: Saint Paul. My name is Dan Barrero. I host the program, 9 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: guards he produces the show. Did we blow it? From 10 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: a production standpoint? Not naming the first snow nomie of 11 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: the year? 12 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: Now, inches did we get? 13 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: I think officially didn't we get like five inches of snow? 14 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: Maybe that's enough for a Snownomie. I mean in some 15 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: years when it was consored, we had two inch snownomies 16 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: that we named. 17 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: Less than that. Yeah, you probably right to that. Yeah 18 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: we had. We had to please a sponsor. I don't know, 19 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: I'm just asking. 20 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I my gut tells me you did not 21 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 2: want to encourage it because you didn't want it to 22 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: be Snownamie Brosmer. 23 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: Well, when did what snow storm are we talking about? 24 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 3: Because it's snowed the other we had one like a 25 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 3: week ago. I was gone, so that I know that's 26 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 3: what made it complicated. I wasn't really paying attention. Now, 27 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 3: is it too late? 28 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 2: Is the statue of tsunami limitations up to where we 29 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: might as well just wait for the next one and 30 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 2: not try. 31 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: To force it. 32 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: I do know that our nominees available, there's a button list, 33 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: an abundant list. Our SAMI correspondent Ryan Donaldson is available. 34 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: I know that. 35 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: He's very good at it. Yeah, that's good to know, 36 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: So we'll tell us. We'll take that under invisement. We 37 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: are here until six o'clock tonight out I'm assuming for 38 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: Vikings programming, and then we've got eventually Minnesota waild to hockey. 39 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: I think pregame is seven forty five tonight. It's an 40 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: eight o'clock they're in Calgary seven. 41 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: I don't know. 42 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: There's no reason. It's why I shouldn't be a full 43 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: thirty minute pregame show. But I don't think Fallness wants 44 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: to work that hard. 45 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: It's weird. 46 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 3: He wants to do a two hour long postgame show 47 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: and pregame he's not interested in. 48 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: It doesn't make much sense to me. It doesn't make 49 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: any sense to me as well. He's an interesting fellow. 50 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: I Austin, writes Austin and Apple Valley rights eight inches 51 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: of snow in Burnsville and eighteen inches in Apple Valley. 52 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: I've stumping someone again. 53 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,399 Speaker 3: The show will never be Do you think enough people 54 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 3: understand that they do right well for us? 55 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: We do. Yeah, it doesn't matter. It's still funny. 56 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, we got to get that graphic from Fox nine 57 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: that was so good. Apple Valley digs out. They're still 58 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 3: mad at us about that. I don't know if we 59 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 3: want to rear and then you're not gonna get that. 60 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 3: If you if you keep going too far in that, 61 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: you're not gonna get You're not gonna get your shoes. 62 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 3: My shoes. Yeah, did you go and get your shoes? 63 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 3: And I didn't go to get my I couldn't either today, 64 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 3: no time. So we're busy. 65 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: I mean, there's these things to do. And they text says, hey, 66 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: shoes tomorrow. Okay. 67 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 2: I think you can order him online. Actually we can 68 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: tell somebody. We can get a pair of people are 69 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 2: interested in any case. We we're done at six and 70 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: we got three outstanding guests today. Sean Salisbury has scheduled 71 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: for the bottom of this hour three point thirty, and 72 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: Andy Lueger will stop by for the entire four o'clock hour. 73 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: Here's this is gonna be the hard part with the 74 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: former US attorney. He wants to talk nothing but vikes. 75 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 2: Oh really, Yes, he's a football rule we used to play. 76 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 2: But he thinks he has all the answers of what 77 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: the Vikings need to do the rest of this season. 78 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: So but I don't want to Maybe it's better to 79 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: start with it, to get it out of the way 80 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: and get out of his system. But I don't want 81 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: it to extend into like hours two, three, and four. 82 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 3: Here's the cheap shot that you can open with. Yeah, 83 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 3: that he'll get because he went to Amhurst right, Amherst College, 84 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 3: very fashionable college. 85 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: At least that's correct. He'll he'll correct us if that's incorrect. 86 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: So he played football at Amherst. O line, didn't he? 87 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: I think line that particular college conference does not allow 88 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 3: their players, at least they didn't when my friends played 89 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 3: in that conference a football postseason. So like my buddy 90 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 3: who played at Trinity Right at these dominant regular seasons, 91 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 3: they'd be like nine to oh and they couldn't play 92 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 3: Whitewater in the D three playoffs because there was no 93 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 3: such thing. 94 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: Wow, so you. 95 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 3: So workshopping a little bit like your club has something 96 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 3: in common with the vikings no playoffs. 97 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: Wow. 98 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: I think he'd like that. He's sensitive, he's a he's a. 99 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: He's he's basically, you're with us, you're against us on 100 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: the vikings. 101 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting should know that. We'll see how that goes. 102 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 3: I have to let him in probably at three forty 103 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 3: or so, you're talking to Salisbury, so I'll workshop it 104 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 3: with him. 105 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: Russo Radio schedule for five oh two, Is that correct? 106 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, he's not with the club in Calgary, but 107 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: he's as I told him, you're always Russo Radio. 108 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, No matter where, that partner never changes. So we 109 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 2: got a lot to get to above and beyond the 110 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 2: guest lineup as well. And I'm not gonna, I guess 111 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: pretend that I intended to start the program with the 112 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 2: making it up as we go. 113 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: Along, But. 114 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 2: I'm looking at a headline you're familiar with, bring me 115 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 2: the Sports. 116 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 3: Yes, okay, Well, via SI dot com, they have a 117 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 3: story regarding the kind of previewing the Winter meetings, which 118 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 3: are not that far off at this point the baseball. 119 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: And here's the quote they highlight. 120 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 2: From world class baseball reporter Kenny Rosenthal on the Twins 121 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: off season plan. Excuse me, I don't know that they 122 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 2: know what they're going to do. 123 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: We know it's not good baseball. They're working through it. Now. 124 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 2: I'm not sure there's been a couple of sentences better 125 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: uttered that more forcefully and objectively and savagely explains everything 126 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: you need to know about the current condition of the 127 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 2: Minnesota Twins, because he's not saying, here's the complete quote, 128 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: there's not clarity yet on how they are going to 129 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: operate this offseason. And when I say there's not clarity, 130 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: I don't mean not clarity coming to reporters about their plans. 131 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 3: I mean clarity within their own organization. I don't know 132 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 3: that they know what they're going to do. They're working 133 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 3: through it. 134 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: What I was told this week is that they'll have 135 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: clarity by the winter meetings. Okay, it's probably a good 136 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,119 Speaker 2: idea to have clarity by the winter meetings. 137 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: Now, look, we all can I think mock. 138 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: And ridicule the organizations that try too hard to lay 139 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: out their plans and to talk about beat their chests 140 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 2: constantly about the blueprint, the blueprint, and how much we've 141 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 2: plan and how much we've got and and a lot 142 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: of times it's it's empty nonsense. 143 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: Right, But. 144 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 2: This, I mean, none of this surprises me. It's I guess, 145 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:18,679 Speaker 2: further confirmation. But I'm going in all seriousness, boys and girls. 146 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: You know, my position has been, they do know what 147 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: their plan is. They just don't want to articulate it. 148 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 2: Because their plan is withdrawal. Their plan is contraction without 149 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: contracting the team. There seems to be no reasonablieve anything 150 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: else so long as they have been unable to articulate 151 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: what the vision might be. And again I wouldn't make 152 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: as big a deal of this. It was some you know, 153 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: rube blogger who doesn't really even cover baseball, but is 154 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: you know, likes to get the hot takes going. 155 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: It's Kenny Rosenthal. 156 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, guys as plugged in as anybody, pretty good pedigree baseball, and. 157 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: I just I don't know. 158 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 2: I mean, if you're a player, maybe, if you maybe 159 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: we're past the point where, if you're a member of 160 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: this team, you go, what are we doing? 161 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: Is this real? Is this a real? 162 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: Is this a big league organization? Maybe you've already given 163 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: up that ghost. 164 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: Right. 165 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: I'm not exactly sure, but I still don't think it's 166 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 2: a particularly helpful look. It's certainly not an inspiring look, 167 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 2: is it when every day it's comments like these? And 168 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: by the way, uh, who is the national reporter Nightingale? 169 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: No, was it no about Buxton? Oh it was yeah? 170 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, it'll come to me in a minute, 171 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 2: A big time ball writer for I think ESPN confirming 172 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 2: what I thought I read in The Athletic a long 173 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: time ago that Buxton would might well be willing to 174 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 2: waive his no trade clause if indeed the Twins are 175 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 2: gonna just gut the thing even more than they gutted 176 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: it at the at the trade deadline. And so we 177 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 2: got that story looming. We've got the pictures, the story 178 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 2: that we talked about a few days ago from Nightingale Senior. Right, yep, 179 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: that the twins are mulling over which are the two 180 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: starting pitchers, if not both at the top of their rotation, 181 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 2: that they might trade away. I retweeted something indicating that 182 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 2: the Mets are intrigued. 183 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: They're sniffing around Joe. 184 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: Ryan, and I said, well, yeah, why wouldn't they I 185 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: mean it good picture under a great contractual situation right 186 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: now correct years. 187 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 3: For a couple more years. I think it is so again, 188 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: I I mean, how. 189 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: Do they how there? Do you think when they get 190 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: in their meetings? How do they justify this approach other 191 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 2: than if it's literally well Joe won't tell us. 192 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: That's I think what it has to be. How far 193 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 1: we have to go? 194 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 2: And we still don't know the names of the minority investors. 195 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: We still don't know that they exist. 196 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 2: The Commissioner insists that they do and say it's just 197 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 2: a matter of time, but we still don't have any 198 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: clarity on that either. So every time you think there's 199 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: no lower that the Twins organization from a credibility standpoint 200 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 2: can go, another story develops or evolves to say no, 201 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: they can go lower. 202 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 3: Right. 203 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: It's just it's like a limbo bar. 204 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: It's bizarre, and it's like they're serving it up on 205 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 2: a platter for snarky individuals like me. And is it 206 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 2: maybe I'm falling into the trap. Maybe after the winter meetings, 207 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: we're going to find out they're going to spend an 208 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 2: extra not only the thirty million that they took away. 209 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 2: A couple of years ago. They're going to spend an 210 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: extra thirty so they're. 211 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 3: Going to be sixty million above the payroll from when 212 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 3: they cut. 213 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: It by thirty million. That's possible. I don't know, Twins, 214 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: writes Randy in Duluth. 215 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 2: Twins have concepts of a plan. They will announce it 216 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 2: in two weeks. Concepts of a plan. Okay, Yeah, that's 217 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 2: good word salad there as well. Uh, Paul's knew the 218 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: plane in August when they got rid of half the team. Yeah, 219 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 2: I mean you could say they've sort of they haven't 220 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 2: hidden their their vision so far. But it's just the 221 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 2: way the quote was written from from Rosenthal. Again, I 222 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 2: just I don't know that they know what they're going 223 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: to do. They're working through it. 224 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 3: Can't you translate that to they don't know what they're 225 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 3: doing or they do know what they're doing. Well, yeah, 226 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 3: that's very true. I did get the email that Twins 227 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 3: Fest tickets are on sale today. If anybody's interested in 228 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 3: Twins Baseball dot com. 229 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: God bless you. 230 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 3: Every game is a big game and it's Wild Hockey. 231 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 3: Feel the dsty in excitement at Grand Casino Arena this season. 232 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 3: Get your tickets today at Wild dot Com slash tickets. 233 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 3: I heard the Twins have a framework of a plan. 234 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 3: Twins are exploring the intent to create a plan. 235 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: If a Twins trade a starter, can nine come and 236 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 2: pitch is wide base seems more appropriate off the mound 237 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: better than at the football field or on the football field. 238 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 2: Be a great year for a winter Twins caravan tour 239 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 2: with Lavelle driving. 240 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 3: The bus. I've been at a winter caravan with levell 241 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 3: Have you really up in Elie? 242 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? Years and years ago. 243 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 3: Is there a backstory to that? It was just we 244 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 3: went up there at the PA and do Bay show. 245 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 3: It was one of their snowmobile events. I don't think 246 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 3: it was like the Twins Fest caravan deal. I don't 247 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 3: know Guard he was there, Rick Anderson was there. Lavelle 248 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 3: won like three grand, This goes fifty below zero, this 249 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 3: goes back away. 250 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is probably oh seven Larry Mondela guy. 251 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: Does Dan have any more of that liquid mental clarity 252 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 2: he used to take that he could share with the 253 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: Twins front office and owners. 254 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: What happened to your mental clarity? 255 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: You know right, I've kind of I've kind of lost 256 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 2: touch with the candles, the clogs and the mental the 257 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: organic mental clarity. I'm gonna have to look for that. Yeah, 258 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 2: take a look at at least somebody stole it. I 259 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 2: had it at my desk. It could be gone. Maybe 260 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 2: somebody tried to drink it around here. I rule nothing there. 261 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: I agree. If he if he knows who the. 262 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: Owners are, that is Larry Mondela guy continues, then they 263 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 2: can They can clearly see they are going to sell 264 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 2: off every major league ready player. 265 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: All that's possibly true. Good news and bad news. 266 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 2: Good news is we can spread our wings a little 267 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 2: bit more between now and four. Bad news is that 268 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 2: means Sean Salisbury is apparently in some sort of travel 269 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: meat grinder, so he is not going to join us today. 270 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: Decent shot that we're gonna be able to squeeze him 271 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 2: in on the Friday Football Beast tomorrow, which has happened 272 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: before he. 273 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: Got a new gig. Did you see that Salisbury? 274 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 2: No, I know he was interviewing with everybody because he 275 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 2: told us he say, hey, look suss coming. Yeah, it's 276 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 2: I don't know exactly what this he'll tell us, but 277 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 2: it seems like it's player development slash recruiting helper. Interesting, 278 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 2: like one of those companies. Well, you can tell he 279 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: loves that stuff. Oh yeah, he absolutely revels in that 280 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 2: sort of thing. So yeah, we'll talk to him about that, 281 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 2: hopefully tomorrow. Because the rule on the Bumper and Bumper 282 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 2: Show is better late Salisbury than no Salisbury. 283 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: There's a question about that. 284 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 2: However, it does open the door a little bit to 285 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 2: talk about Rick Bosich's worst nightmare. Going to go for 286 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: men's basketball team right here on the fan ruined Bosich's 287 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: night such, of course, is my best friend from college huge, 288 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: I'm a hoosier root from Afar. I'm kind of if 289 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: I'm honest, in and out of it. He's never left 290 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 2: it and he is now that he's retired. Does nothing 291 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: but think Indiana sports, in Ana university sports and the 292 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 2: White Sox. And let's just say the Gophers ruined his 293 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: night last night at the Barn with what ended up 294 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: being not even a particularly I'm always in a blowout, 295 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: but it was not even a game that went right 296 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: down to the wire at all. First Big Ten game, 297 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 2: of course, under the tutelage of the new head coach, 298 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: a Nico Medven and I only I was chasing drugs 299 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 2: for my daughter. Well that doesn't sound very good way antibiotics. 300 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 2: She's under the weather. I didn't get to see very 301 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 2: much of it. I was in and out of the 302 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 2: car enough where I was listening to Grimmer on it 303 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: and only once her contact no file, no, no file. 304 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: I think it was what maybe twice. 305 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 2: Actually that was it, which is actually for listening for 306 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 2: like six minutes, was pretty pretty low. 307 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: But it looks to me. 308 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 3: So I texted Bosis, I said, so, what how do this? 309 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: What happened? 310 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: He said, they got crushed. Minnesota crushed the Hoosiers on 311 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: the boards. And I looked it up. Yeah, and he's right. 312 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 2: That's the story of the ballgame. And that's not good 313 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: news for your Hoosiers. No, no, well, they have been 314 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 2: apparently quite vulnerable by the way. This was their first 315 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 2: road game, although they were undefeated. Yeah, I think this 316 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: was actually their first one. 317 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 3: Courtney James John Thomas and Trevor Winter aren't walking through 318 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 3: that door for the Gophers. This yeries, But it seemed 319 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 3: like it was one of those games where all right, 320 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 3: all hands on deck. 321 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: What do we got to lose. 322 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 2: Let's just let's just, as we say in the business, 323 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 2: out effort them. It was great forty to twenty five. 324 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: The rebounding advantage for the Gophers, and that included a 325 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 2: ten to five advance on the offensive boards. So to me, now, 326 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: there's other stats you can point to players that have 327 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 2: barely played coming in and contributing obviously pretty effectively. But 328 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 2: he also thought that apparently we hit two late three 329 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: pointers in the first half that he also thought made 330 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: it the kind of game where the Gophers. 331 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: Are going, oh, hey, you're in this thing. We were 332 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: tired at the half in. 333 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 2: A way that it, you know, Iniana might have gone 334 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 2: into the half of the six or seven point lead. 335 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: So all those things are good. I So I'm not 336 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 2: going to pretend I saw it. I'm not going to 337 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 2: pretend that I'm ready for the ad to give Nico 338 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 2: a contract extension. 339 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: Yet. 340 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 2: Well, what I will say is what I think I 341 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: said when he was hired that in a sense, you 342 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 2: could argue it's not the most quote unquote exciting higher 343 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: or sexy higher. But the one advantage I thought he 344 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 2: represented was he doesn't have to learn to coach on 345 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 2: the job. And that's not even meant as a rip 346 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 2: at Ben Johnson. That's just was the reality of the 347 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 2: Ben Johnson era. This guy's coached a while. He knows 348 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 2: how to be a head coach, and anyone who watches 349 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 2: the way he runs offense knows he knows how to 350 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 2: run an offense too. 351 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:19,719 Speaker 1: He knows how to build an offense. 352 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: And so to me, maybe this is the first sign 353 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 2: of this is at the very least, not a guy 354 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 2: that's gonna have to train on the job. Guy knows 355 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 2: how to he knows the game, he knows how to coach. 356 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 2: And look early, he told us this when we had 357 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 2: him at the State Fair. 358 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you're looking. 359 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 3: He's not. 360 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 2: He's not naive. He I could see the upper deck 361 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: in the highlights. There was nobody there. He knows what 362 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 2: he's walked into here. And it's how it's gonna take. 363 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 2: It's gonna you're gonna have to win people over. But 364 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 2: let's face it, whatever INDI end ends up being, they're 365 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 2: a legitimate Big Ten school and you're they're your first 366 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 2: Big Ten game, and that's exactly the kind of game 367 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: you need to at least open the door to. Oh, Okay, 368 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: maybe there are some changes going on there. Maybe there 369 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 2: is something worth finally paying attention to there, even if 370 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 2: it's a long way from here to contending for Big 371 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 2: ten titles. 372 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 3: You would have loved how the game finished, because well, 373 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 3: first of all, they made most of their free throws, 374 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 3: which was helpful. That's been even probably even for them 375 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks and Indiana did not. 376 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 2: A free throw line. Indiana shot sixty yeah, twelve for 377 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 2: twenty yeah. 378 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 3: But they made the shots at the end of the half, 379 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 3: and their defense was great, and you mentioned the rebounding disparity. 380 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 3: And then as they are getting into crunch time, they 381 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 3: run a couple of you know, just their regular offensive 382 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 3: sets and if you blink, the way that they do 383 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 3: the offense with bat cuts and reads and screens and everything, 384 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 3: if you screw something up and leave a guy open, 385 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 3: guys are gonna make shots. 386 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: And they've got this. 387 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 3: They've got this Bobby Durkin kid who looks like an 388 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 3: AI Jimmy Chitwood chat JPT. What does Jimmy Chitwood look 389 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 3: like twenty twenty five? This would be him, and he 390 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 3: found you know, some open looks. Obviously, Kate Tyson found 391 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 3: some open looks. Awesome mates. So they separated with like 392 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 3: four minutes left. Just on great offense as well as 393 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 3: great defense. It's not the usual even Robbie Hummel said 394 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 3: it on the broadcast. For both teams, there was there's 395 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 3: great movement, there's great cutting, there's great awareness. He goes, 396 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 3: it's not just a bunch of high ball screens, no, 397 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 3: which if you watch college basketball, that's what it's become. 398 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 3: So it was an entertaining game that way, because both 399 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 3: teams I thought ran good stuff like that. It was 400 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 3: an improbable and impressive victory. 401 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: Was very fun. 402 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: Again, the talent is thin, I think, especially when your 403 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 2: factor in the injuries most importantly, who is the porty 404 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: guard willis Yeah, who went. 405 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: Down for the year for the year now? 406 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 2: And and so I'm not sitting here saying we're that 407 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 2: now they're going to go undefeated in the Big Ten. 408 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 2: But I think the way to me this should be 409 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 2: evaluated is further reinforcing the notion that again they're not 410 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 2: in a position where, well, it's going to take this 411 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 2: coach some time to figure out the game and getting experience. 412 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: It takes any coach some time. He's past that. Now 413 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 2: it's gonna be can you get enough talent in a 414 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 2: very competitive conference? Can you keep it? All those ordinary things, 415 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 2: but not the game. The game he knows the way 416 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 2: to handle a team. He already knows, and you know 417 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 2: he's I think you can tell he carries himself with 418 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 2: that knowledge that, in fact, you can always make the 419 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 2: argument in some ways that you actually prove that at 420 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 2: lower levels of competition, and then at this level it's 421 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 2: you're in good shape if you can add the talent. 422 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 2: You know, if you can keep bringing the talent in 423 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 2: and not have to have eleven new bodies, you know, 424 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 2: eleven new bodies every year, which was kind of what 425 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 2: we tended to go through in the Ben Johnson era in. 426 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 3: Terms of figuring things out. On the Coaches Show this week, 427 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 3: and we did the first Nico Coaches Show this week, 428 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 3: and I even joked at him. I said, we haven't 429 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 3: even gotten into your show yet, and you're already down 430 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,719 Speaker 3: seven players. Like the show people barely even know your 431 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 3: season has started, and now we're already talking about all 432 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 3: these injuries. And as he was going through one of 433 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 3: it and talking about how they do things and how 434 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 3: we're going to practice, he actually straight upset. But and 435 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 3: I'm paraphrasing, I've been through this kind of stuff, right. 436 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 3: You figure it out, you do. You take a little 437 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 3: bit of it like no one's gonna feel bad for you. 438 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 3: That's what we're here for. And it was kind of refreshing. Yeah, 439 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 3: it was a hundred percent. Of course, I'm sure he's 440 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 3: frustrated he doesn't have enough bodies, but I like that 441 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 3: approach that he just said to everybody that was there, 442 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 3: a buffalo wild wings, I've done this before, we'll do it. 443 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: We'll figure it out. And that's an advantage. 444 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 2: And I that's why the minute the decision was made, 445 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: I just thought the Big Ten shouldn't be a conference 446 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 2: in which you have you're forced to go with a coach, 447 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 2: even if he's got a chance to be good to 448 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 2: learn about being a head coach on the job. It 449 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: just doesn't. It doesn't. I'm sure there are samples of 450 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 2: where it's worked, but it doesn't make any sense to me. 451 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 2: And I think that's to me what what Nico represented 452 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 2: and is it's a bonus that he's got history here. 453 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 2: I didn't think it was essential, but it's a bonus 454 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 2: because he has some context from which to work and 455 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 2: he comes in I think with his eyes open as well, 456 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 2: because he's been here when it was better and he's 457 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 2: observed it when obviously after the fall with Clem. It 458 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 2: got a lot worse. Hoosiers crushed, Bozich, flushed Nico, blushed 459 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 2: Wolves and thought Wolves are in action tonight it's the rematch. 460 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 2: It is Pelicans thought they let one get away last time, 461 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 2: so they might plant their feet. 462 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 3: They'll be ready tonight. They'll be ready. Have no idea 463 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 3: who's playing for them, but they'll be ready. Is Ion back, No, 464 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 3: he's out for a while. Jonas is out now for 465 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 3: two to four. Well, not only that, you saw the 466 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 3: big media report, was it Scham's Yeah, he wants out. 467 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 3: He's already before the season. They talked at it apparently. 468 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 2: So I'm trying to figure out is this is he 469 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 2: advancing the story where this is more active than before, 470 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 2: because obviously there'll be a lot of teams interested in him. 471 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: Here's what a team that makes no sense for me 472 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: being interested in Oki City? 473 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 2: Tell me what you think, because one of the speculation was, well, 474 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 2: if you look around the league, they're going to be 475 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 2: looking for draft picks, those and young players, those kinds 476 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: of resources. So the logical, a logical fit would be 477 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 2: Oklahoma City. Sure, And my comeback to that is, I'm 478 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 2: not sure why Oklahoma City it wouldn't even possibly explore it. 479 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: They wouldn't. It doesn't make any now. Again, they're not going. 480 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 2: To be I don't think they're going to finish like 481 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 2: seventy eight and four. 482 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: That's their current pace. 483 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 2: But they've got so many things going doing it the 484 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 2: way they're doing it, can you imagine, I mean, you 485 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 2: bring it a guy like that, top five player in 486 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 2: the league, A lot lot of things are going to 487 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 2: have to change and revolve around them. 488 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,719 Speaker 1: So why why would so? I understand people saying, well, 489 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: they got the resources, so if. 490 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 2: You're Milwaukee, you'd like to talk to Yeah, for sure, 491 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: But I have no idea why they would go away 492 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 2: from the model that they have embraced so effectively. And so, 493 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,479 Speaker 2: you know, I think almost historically, I just don't think 494 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: right now there's any other franchises that are kind of 495 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 2: doing it the way they're doing it. They have a 496 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 2: legitimate superstar, but it's one they sort of groomed themselves. 497 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 2: It wasn't one that they had to go out and 498 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 2: get as already being established and who are you going 499 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 2: to give up? It doesn't make any sense, No, it doesn't. 500 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 3: Although I do kind of like the novelty of Jannis 501 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 3: going from a small market to an even smaller market. 502 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 3: That's true, because that's usually never happened before. Right when 503 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 3: you ever had anybody going to Oklahoma City as some 504 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 3: type of destination, even in speculation. 505 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: No, they're not doing that. 506 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 2: By the way, as we continue the basketball conversation, much 507 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 2: to the chagrin of Kevin Falness, exactly that's what I 508 00:25:55,440 --> 00:26:00,959 Speaker 2: was going to get to. But there's already the Clippers. 509 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 2: I'm probably I've probably never been as appreciative of Chris 510 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 2: Paul's game as I should be when you factor in 511 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 2: the number of ball people I respect who say he's 512 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 2: an all time great. 513 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: But I'm having a hard time. 514 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 2: Fostering up the suitable outrage that has been generated elsewhere 515 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 2: under the classification of how dare this organization get rid 516 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 2: of this point god legend in the middle of the night. 517 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm not that worked up over it a 518 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 2: because the only reason it was middle of the night 519 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 2: had to do with some flight delays. So this notion 520 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 2: that there's some we get I believe way too hung 521 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 2: up in the idea that there's a big distinction between 522 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 2: cutting a legendary player at two in the morning or 523 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 2: the following morning at nine am. Sorry, I just don't 524 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: think it's that big of a deal in this case 525 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 2: had more to do with circumstances, and what I have 526 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 2: read and what I've continued to hear is Chris Paul 527 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 2: has been too much like Chris Paul there, and it's 528 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: no different than he ever was. The guy thinks he 529 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 2: is in charge of everything, wants to run everything. When 530 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 2: you're a point god, you can get away with that, right. 531 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 2: People will tolerate that because you're really good at your job. 532 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 2: When you are an occasional bench player, they're not going 533 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 2: to have any tolerance for it. 534 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: So I'm not. 535 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 2: Look, the Clippers have been their own worst enemy. But 536 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 2: I guess I'm having a hard time making that big 537 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 2: of a production or how dare they do that to 538 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 2: Chris Paul. Chris Paul knows the approach he takes, and 539 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: at some point I just can't lose any sleepover now. 540 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 2: The question I'm getting to is will he lands somewhere? 541 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 2: And if you're if you're a Wolves fan, do you 542 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 2: have any interest in Chris Paul? 543 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 1: I have none. 544 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 2: I don't think I do either, because again, I think 545 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 2: you've already got you know, a veteran older guy. Okay, 546 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 2: I'm not sure how much Chris Paul has left. And again, 547 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 2: we don't need the clubhouse lawyering if you're not going 548 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 2: to be a main player, right, I just it's just, 549 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 2: I just seasons are too long. 550 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: There's enough, there are enough challenges there. 551 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 3: I just so I would be stunned if there's much 552 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 3: sniffing done by the Timberwolves, whatever they might do at 553 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 3: the point guard position, I will be surprised that Chris 554 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 3: Paul will land here. 555 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: I thought about it for about ten seconds. Would that 556 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: make sense? 557 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 3: And I'll be honest, I haven't watched a lot of 558 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 3: Clippers on league pass this year, not want to make 559 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 3: to watch. 560 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: Well there they've been a mess. They have been. They're 561 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: old and not very good. 562 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 2: And who's the Miami Heat player they they Norman Powell 563 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 2: they traded to. I mean they in a sense exchanged 564 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 2: him for who's the injured guys with the Suns last 565 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 2: year's Season's already over the guard who used to be 566 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 2: with Washington. Oh, Bradley Bradley Beal. Yeah, that's the trade 567 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 2: in a sense they made. Beale is done. Paul's terrific. 568 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 2: So they've brought on some of their issues themselves. But 569 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 2: I just yeah, I don't. I don't know. So we'll 570 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 2: see because I do think and we even talked about 571 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 2: this with Mike Conley. He knows it comes with the territory. 572 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 2: The discussions are going to be ongoing, don't you think. 573 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 574 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 2: Lastly, somebody said that there's an internet rumor and this 575 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 2: one makes absolutely zero sense that the Wolves are on 576 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 2: the verge of trading for Kevin Durant. Now I ask you, 577 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 2: have you checked the Houston Rockets start to the season 578 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 2: in their record, they're pretty good, they're fourteen, they're they're outstanding. Yeah, 579 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 2: they're the three seed right now. Let me see, Rockets 580 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 2: are gonna go. You know what, This isn't working out 581 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 2: for us. So we're only fourteen to five, and hey, 582 00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: let's see if we can do. 583 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 3: A favorite another team, not only well in the another 584 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 3: NBA team, but a team in our conference. Where does 585 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 3: this stuff come from? Do you have any Have you 586 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 3: heard that one? No, but I'm kind of curious. The 587 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 3: sights that you're visiting. Well, actually, I'm starting to worry 588 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 3: about it. I didn't visit it. It was it was 589 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 3: I wrote about it. Oh, did he he actually wrote 590 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 3: about it. I'm worried about his site. Well that could 591 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 3: be too, but I mean it's like it's durant. 592 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 2: Might have made sense when last trade deadline there was 593 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 2: talking to you, willing to come here and they couldn't 594 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 2: get it done then, and then in the summer it 595 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 2: was I don't want to go there. I want to 596 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: go to Houston. 597 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: So tight gun melt tight. 598 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 2: There's ones that make kind of sense and some that 599 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 2: don't make much sense at all. 600 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: Let me get to a couple of texts. We'll go 601 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: to forty two. 602 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 2: Might as well, m yep, Tom Izzodean Smith, Roy Williams 603 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 2: for a few worked out okay, start the head coaching 604 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: careers in big basketball conferences. 605 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's not unprecedented. 606 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: That's a fair Pointzo was Heathcote's guy for like fifty 607 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 2: years exactly, And I think that wasn't Roy Williams, Dean 608 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 2: Smiths guy. He was, yes, and then went to yeah. 609 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 2: So I again, I just think they were further along 610 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 2: in that regard. Somebody's asking about James Harden rumors. 611 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 3: I've raised the name before. I don't know if you 612 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 3: were on that day or not. 613 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 2: We've talked about it, so and yeah, and it's it 614 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 2: sounds on one level. Let me back up and say, 615 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 2: I have no idea what the Clippers plans are moving forward. 616 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: They're like the Twins. 617 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 2: I don't think I know James Harden would refuse to 618 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: show up here. I don't think he likes the cold. 619 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 2: Although he was in Philly, right, Yeah, wasn't Philly he 620 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,959 Speaker 2: was for a while, was he? 621 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? I think he was. 622 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 3: He's been everywhere pretty sure was in Philly, Houston, maybe 623 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 3: Philly in any case. 624 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 2: But if if it's possible, do I think it's as 625 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 2: preposterous as I an idea to me as I initially 626 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 2: might have thought, no, even though it's like and it's 627 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 2: a hell of a flyer if you're going to do 628 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 2: something that would be very, very dramatic. But oddly I've 629 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,239 Speaker 2: come to like this version of James Harden better than 630 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 2: previous versions. Now, the fatal flaw you could come back 631 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 2: with is yeah, but even in the playoffs, this new 632 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 2: version it's more of a distributor. Yes, he's fallen off 633 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,479 Speaker 2: the edge of a table in some important game, so 634 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 2: I you know, we're a long way from here to there. 635 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: But they're gonna be They're gonna be a bunch of those. 636 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I unless something gets stabilized here in that regard, 637 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 2: like out of nowhere. Tonight, Dillingham scores thirty five and 638 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 2: dishes for tennis sists. 639 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: Just everything clicks. 640 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 2: He gets extra minutes because somebody is either hurt or 641 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 2: foul trouble, and it starts a trend where he's kind 642 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 2: of figured it out. 643 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: Barring that, I. 644 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 2: Just don't see, you know, the rest of the players, 645 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 2: of the rest of the players right in terms of 646 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 2: who's who can possibly run the show, so well have to. 647 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 2: We'll continue to monitor. You know, I haven't caught up 648 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 2: on the show in a while. We haven't had Sam 649 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 2: Mitchell on, so we should probably catch up with him. 650 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: You know. The interesting about Sam. Do you remember last 651 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: year Sam's. 652 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 3: Suggestion, which got dismissed by a lot of the insiders, 653 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 3: was what about making Nikhil Alexander Walker You're starting point guard? 654 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and some people thought it was crazy. Is it 655 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: a reach? He's played really well for Atlanta. 656 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 2: In fact, he's flourished without who's their main Their main 657 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 2: score has been out hurt Trey Young. He's played great 658 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 2: for them, so you know, will we will that be 659 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 2: the love we lost? 660 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: I don't know it's possible. He's averaging twenty a game 661 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: right now? Is he really? How about it? What's his 662 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: assist total? 663 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 3: Is he? 664 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: Is he running it? Is he the lead guard? I 665 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: don't know that. 666 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 3: I would imagine, yes, twenty points three point five assists? Okay, 667 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 3: well that's not a huge number if you're but he's Yeah, 668 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 3: he's playing well and he can guard. 669 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: That's the other thing. You know, we always knew it. 670 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 2: I mean, he's he is the two way player and 671 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 2: I'm not. You know again, I know we could. You 672 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 2: couldn't bring everybody back, But in any case, so a 673 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 2: lot of hoop talked there, very encouraging result at the Barn. 674 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 2: I have no idea what the crowd ended up being. 675 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 2: But again, I think when people looked at this schedule, 676 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,240 Speaker 2: they go having big ten games early is gonna stink 677 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 2: because they might get routed early, and then it's another 678 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 2: reason for people to look the other way. The beauty 679 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 2: of what they did last night is it goes the 680 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 2: other direction. I know they do have a very tough 681 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 2: they're at Purdue. 682 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: Is it next week? Next week? Produce Purdue they're number one. 683 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 3: But I don't think anybody is going to lose their 684 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 3: minds if we go to Purdue and do not dominate. 685 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: But we'll see. 686 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 2: Let's pause here. Sean Salisbury is going to join us 687 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 2: on tomorrow's show. Travel issues reared their head this afternoon, 688 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 2: so we hope to get Shawnee in tomorrow. We do 689 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 2: have Russo Radio at five o'clock and Andy Lueger, who 690 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 2: I think wants to talk more vikings than feeding our future. 691 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,760 Speaker 2: He is scheduled in studio beginning at four. 692 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: Tonight. 693 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 3: Join our own Max Fuller for a michelob Ultra Wolves. 694 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 3: Watch party B fifty two Burgers and Brew in Lakeville. 695 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 3: You can stop buy from seven to nine, enjoy food 696 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 3: and drink specials and register to win prizes like and 697 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards Jersey. Go hang with Max B fifty two 698 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 3: Burgers in Brew Lakeville seven to nine. Watch the club 699 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 3: KFA dot com keyword calendar. 700 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 2: All right, Andy Luger is in the house. He's going 701 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 2: to join at the top of the hour. I was 702 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 2: just meeting him up at the vestibule. I hope I'm 703 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 2: not out of breath. 704 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 3: Turn Town, we still have it. We start Town we 705 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 3: still have it. Yeah, that's got an endate of like 706 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 3: year twenty twenty two to twenty. We're keeping that one forever. 707 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 3: Why wouldn't we? Right real quick, I can find this 708 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 3: is from Clayton in Rochester. What do the Twins even know? 709 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 3: Pablo Esco borero Twins hot stove is more like ten 710 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 3: below wolves and five people work hard for it, man, 711 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:54,760 Speaker 3: they really really do work hard, watching Nikiel, Sam Darnold, 712 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 3: Daniel Jones doing so a lot of other teams like 713 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,479 Speaker 3: scrolling Facebook and seeing an ex happy with someone way 714 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 3: better looking than you. It hurts. That's from Kyle in Iante. 715 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 3: But remember, as we talked about. 716 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 2: Yesterday, we're on the right side of the great what's 717 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 2: his name? 718 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,760 Speaker 1: Our new goaltender, what's the nickname? 719 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 2: The Greywall of Saint Paul, who we acquired from some 720 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 2: smart draft day maneuvering, moving up a couple of spots 721 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 2: to steal him, assuming that he wasn't going to be 722 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 2: available if we waited till twenty two. I think we 723 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 2: moved up to twenty yep, and right now that looks 724 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 2: like a stroke of genius. So we are occasionally on 725 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 2: the other side of things. We do we must fairness 726 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 2: and savagery take that under consideration. 727 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: We didn't. 728 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 2: I don't think discuss this in much detail yesterday, and 729 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 2: I don't even know if we had the sound or not. 730 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 2: But there's been some discussion reaction to a couple of 731 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 2: things that the quarterback whisper had to say, most recently 732 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 2: about his number one quarterback, by the way, who has 733 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,280 Speaker 2: been completely cleared right, he's not a concussion protocol. 734 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 1: He met the media today, and he met the media 735 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: today EyeBlack on. 736 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 3: I don't think he had any EyeBlack, but I didn't watch. 737 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 3: I did read a couple of things that piqued my interest. O'Connell. 738 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 2: It's purely about decision decision making at this point. I 739 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 2: want him to have a clear head and a clear 740 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 2: mind to just go play, but play with an understanding 741 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 2: of the decisions that I make have to be of 742 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 2: the utmost importance. Because we learned our turnover number is 743 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,919 Speaker 2: where it is. It's not a winning formula. I don't 744 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 2: want him overthinking or worrying about if the fundamentals need 745 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:37,320 Speaker 2: to be changed. 746 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: Let's just make the throws, Let's just throw and catch. 747 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: Let's just play with great rhythm and understanding of the plan. 748 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: Now last things that are easily correctable. 749 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 2: That's kind of what Shaun Salisbury said to us a 750 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 2: week ago. Yes, almost word for word. 751 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 3: Yes, it's it's it's still tricky, but because in a. 752 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 2: Sense it's sounds, it was cool to say just fling it. 753 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 2: But in truth, sometimes when quarterbacks do that, it gets 754 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 2: even worse because they can throw five picks. 755 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: However, all of. 756 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 2: These comments this week kind of come off as. 757 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 3: Maybe I put too much in the kid's head. So 758 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 3: then you're back to, well, should it have taken you 759 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 3: this long to figure it out? It's infuriating, isn't it 760 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 3: supposed to be? 761 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 2: Incrementally, you add those things after some success with more 762 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 2: fundamental and basic things, and then okay, now he might 763 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 2: be ready. 764 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: For the next step. And then we're gonna add a 765 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: couple of wrinkles. But I don't want to. 766 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 3: I don't want to have him thinking about that stuff 767 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 3: in the beginning, just because I got the big fat playbook. 768 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 3: How long have we been talking about bass balance ball 769 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 3: bros And Bahamas? I mean they were talking about his 770 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 3: posture in the pocket, you know, having he's got to 771 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 3: get better posture in the pocket. They're happening to do 772 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 3: all these things. Do you want to hear what JJ 773 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 3: said today? This one just no, you know, but it's 774 00:39:58,640 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 3: like it's along. 775 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: The same line. OK. 776 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 3: A lot of the mentality has changed, for sure. I 777 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,359 Speaker 3: was so focused on doing every rep perfectly and making 778 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 3: sure every little detail was crossed and checked off. Coach 779 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 3: O'Connell and Coach McCown have talked to me like, hey, 780 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 3: let's worry about that stuff in the offseason. Go out there, 781 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 3: play your ball and execute the play. That frees up 782 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 3: a lot of space. Mentally, be instinctual, react and respond 783 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 3: to what the defense is giving me. 784 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 2: Well, but let me throw out another possibility. They are 785 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 2: making it up as they go along, As we talked 786 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 2: about with the Twins earlier. It's almost like, all right, 787 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,240 Speaker 2: we've tried that approach and we are at least talking 788 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 2: publicly about it. So what are we left with, Well, 789 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 2: we'll go the other direction and that maybe that'll make 790 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 2: us sound smarter. And there's no guarantee that anything is 791 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 2: going to change quote unquote with this approach, or that 792 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 2: the approach itself is even going to really change. 793 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 3: But you got to it's almost like, well, we can't keep. 794 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: Talking about that stuff, so we'll go to the other extreme. 795 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe, I just know this is a first guest 796 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 3: at the time, we've talked about it, like you can't 797 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 3: and I know they hadn't. Well, they did play the 798 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 3: Packers here a minute ago, but like, you can't be 799 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 3: thinking about your posture when Michael Parsons is a second 800 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 3: and half behind you. 801 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 1: You just can't. It's not working. You think about that 802 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: in the offseason. 803 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:17,320 Speaker 3: And even though when he was coming off the international 804 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 3: trip that goes all the way back to October, late September, 805 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 3: early October, the things they were talking about that they 806 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 3: were doing on the practice field just made no sense 807 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 3: like that they were And I know the reporters are 808 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 3: asking about it so because they're obsessed with the process 809 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,280 Speaker 3: of whatever's going on with the with a QB development. 810 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 3: So I defend them a little bit there, but I just, 811 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 3: I mean, we've talked about this for two months now, 812 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 3: how it just felt like everything was cloudy, And that's 813 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 3: what Salisbury said. As a coach, my job is to 814 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 3: remove clutter, and I feel like the way they handled 815 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 3: JJ is like when my kids come in the house 816 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 3: and just throw their shoes in snow pants everywhere and it's. 817 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 2: Just all right there. And clutter means a couple of 818 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 2: different things to me. One is are you throwing too 819 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 2: much stuff in his head about base body balanced Brosmer. 820 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 2: But also are you putting too much on his play plate? Yes, 821 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 2: so to me it's a little bit of those. Both 822 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 2: can represent clutter. And that's the part that still slays 823 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,879 Speaker 2: me is because it wasn't if what they're if they 824 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,280 Speaker 2: believe what they're saying. Now, this is one hundred percent 825 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 2: confirmation of what we've been saying all along, which shouldn't 826 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:25,359 Speaker 2: have been that. 827 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: Difficult to figure out from the beginning. 828 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 3: Corrects the thing with a young quarterback, because it's always 829 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:30,879 Speaker 3: easier to. 830 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 1: Add, right, is it not? 831 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 2: I mean, just you build Okay, we got kept kind 832 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 2: of pedestrian and maybe not as wide ranging as we 833 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 2: like to use my playbook because of everything that's in there. 834 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,720 Speaker 3: But I it's a long season, it's a long career. 835 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 3: It's the idea is we're looking for some success. Uh, 836 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,879 Speaker 3: We're looking for some continuity there and gain a little 837 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 3: confidence and then we can we can always add things 838 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 3: and then I'll eventually look pretty as the head coach again, 839 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 3: you know, I'll be fine. So it it's so clear 840 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 3: that there's been too much of an emphasis on the 841 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 3: wrong things almost from the beginning here. 842 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 2: Now, maybe his accuracy is so bad it won't matter. 843 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 2: It wouldn't have mattered, but it's hard not to sec 844 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 2: It's almost like they're asking on the basis of their 845 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 2: comments this week, they're begging us to second guests or 846 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 2: in this case, first guest first settle all along it 847 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 2: say well, this is exactly what we've been talking about, 848 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,760 Speaker 2: all right, top of the hour pause, we will probably 849 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 2: talk some vikings for the next guest, because he's a 850 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 2: big time vikings rube, and though I know has a 851 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 2: lot on his mind regarding the JJ McCarthy saga. And 852 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 2: then we will get to a lot of different subjects 853 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 2: that are closer to home in terms of what he 854 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 2: once did as a couple of times. Minnesota US Attorney 855 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 2: for the State of Minnesota, Andy Lueger in studio questions 856 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 2: Bratshawn Brian Kfin text line that is six four six 857 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:54,839 Speaker 2: eight six