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Speaker 3: we're good, dear doctor Dan. I was a warning sign

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Speaker 3: Everything comes at a cost, Doctor Dan. Have Minnesota sports

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Speaker 3: The curse of the Halloween Blizzard, the Halloween Blizzard was

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Speaker 3: Well, it's hard to keep up on what happens in

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Speaker 3: Signed Jay Lemaire.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna get that this year because

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Speaker 2: So what you need is the tropical opposite of the

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Speaker 3: Dear doctor Dan, I can assure you that our Minnesota

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Speaker 2: Steel tell us you, I don't think legally you can

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Speaker 3: To lead into our four to thirty guests. Dear Doctor Dan,

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Speaker 3: who are you? My backcourt teammate A Reeves asked me

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Speaker 3: after last night's game, we're thinking of using the R.

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Speaker 3: a game winning shot a LA Baseball, after they hit dongs.

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Speaker 3: What do you think, doctor Dan? Jay Laravia that I

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Speaker 3: missed this whole story, the A. Edwards thing last night,

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Speaker 2: You killed us five of six from three, he killed us.

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Speaker 2: So the fan says, who is this guy? And Anthony

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Speaker 1: I don't know. You can't make up those.

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I don't know much about him.

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Speaker 2: Maybe our four thirty guests something about him. They certainly

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: It is a doctor Dan reminder though, that if you're

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Speaker 2: Not not necessarily saying Hall of Fame talent, yeah, or

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Speaker 1: He's kind of intriguing. It's hard to make the NBA.

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Speaker 2: quite frankly, was probably as good as the Reeve shot

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Speaker 2: Thanks for the text, Thanks for the emails, Russo at five.

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Speaker 5: Time now for the Vikings Report on the Fan, presented

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Speaker 6: And you know, we had a hard time making the

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Speaker 2: Chris Finch after last night is very disappointing Wolves loss

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Speaker 1: Mike, thanks as always for the time.

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Speaker 2: I'm wondering my concern I you know, you've been around

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Speaker 2: We have not I don't think talk since the regular

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Speaker 1: Reeves.

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Speaker 2: You guys make a great comeback and seem to be

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Speaker 2: You know, Lebron is obviously out, Luca is out as well.

439
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 1: We know Reeves can score. I don't remember.

440
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 2: Maybe you can refresh my memory in the series you

441
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 2: guys had, I don't remember if he did all that

442
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 2: much offensively. I felt like in that series, you guys

443
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 2: did a good job on him and seem to go

444
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,439
Speaker 2: at him, make him work defensively because he's not, you know,

445
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,400
Speaker 2: considered to be a great defensive player. What what is

446
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 2: he's had this emergence with the injuries? I guess is

447
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 2: he this skill to score? What do you see in

448
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 2: Austin Reeves?

449
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's an amazing player, and I think he's

450
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 4: a guy that has been working on this game year

451
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,400
Speaker 4: after year, and every year he's gotten better. And it's

452
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 4: one of those cases where you know, you're on a

453
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 4: team with other guys that are featured before him, and

454
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 4: he gets the opportunity to showcase who he is and

455
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 4: what he you know, he can bring in a in

456
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,959
Speaker 4: a role that requires him to be more aggressive, and

457
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 4: he's answering the bell. I mean, it's not a surprise

458
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 4: to us as competitors against him. And what he's capable

459
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 4: of doing is you give a guy more opportunities. He's

460
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 4: got that kind of guy's gonna take advantage of it.

461
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 4: And he's done that. And he's a really really tough

462
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 4: cover for most guys, you know, night in, night out.

463
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 4: So it's, uh, you know, it's going to be interesting

464
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 4: to see how they continue to kind of add everybody

465
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 4: back in when they're healthy.

466
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 2: Ant said famously from the bench last night that he

467
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,360
Speaker 2: didn't know. I guess A Wolves fan said who's number twelve?

468
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 2: And Aunt asked the same question. Did you know who

469
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 2: Jake Laavia was? Before he finished with ten for eleven

470
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 2: from the floor last night?

471
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, we knew, so Ann did too. He's not gonna

472
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 4: tell you, but you know he knew Jake Lavia was

473
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 4: and in the you know, I'm sure it was funny,

474
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 4: funny little bit for everybody. But now he's he was

475
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 4: well well aware on our scout report and you know

476
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 4: he's he's you know, talented and can do all the

477
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 4: things he did. Obviously we didn't play on that kind

478
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 4: of night coming from him, but you know, it happens

479
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 4: when you when you let people get comfortable, and he's

480
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 4: playing the comfortable zone all games, so it was it

481
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 4: was one of those one of those nights for him.

482
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Speaker 1: Defense.

483
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Speaker 2: The the early frustration we've heard from Finchy has been

484
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 2: more about I think the defense. There's been some other

485
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 2: things that he's he's been unhappy with, but the defense,

486
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 2: you know, I know, I think we talked about this

487
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,959
Speaker 2: when you came in. The mantra was that we got

488
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 2: to try to get back to the defense. Uh, from

489
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. It doesn't feel like you've

490
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 2: gotten there yet. And obviously Anthony Edwards being out has

491
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 2: something to do with that because he's such a good

492
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 2: two way player. So what have you seen defensively and

493
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 2: and it you subscribe to the theory that eighty eight

494
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 2: percent of good defense's effort or do you think it

495
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 2: has more to do with executing whatever on a given

496
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 2: night your defensive plan is that you and you guys

497
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: haven't done enough of that.

498
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the majority of defense in general, it's

499
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 4: about how much you want it, Like, how much you

500
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 4: compete on the ball, how much you compete off the ball,

501
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 4: all these things that you know you require yourself to

502
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 4: just do whatever it takes to get to stop and

503
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 4: and the rest. You know, there's obviously a big portion

504
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 4: of it that is is game plan oriented, a discipline

505
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 4: aspect of it, because we can go out there and

506
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 4: play hard and pick up full court. If we don't

507
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 4: have a you know, any kind of direction of what

508
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 4: we're doing and why, then you know, it's it's wasted

509
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 4: energy against some of the teams that have the elite

510
00:25:55,600 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 4: scoring and playmaking and high IQ players. So for us,

511
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 4: it's it's it's being able to kind of marry marry both,

512
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 4: you know, getting back to aggressive style defense, physical picking up,

513
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,719
Speaker 4: doing what we do on that in but also being

514
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 4: able to close out the possession smartly without failing, without

515
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 4: giving up you know, multiple rebounds, second chance opportunities, getting

516
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 4: back in transition, eliminating easy opportunities to get people comfortable

517
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 4: you know, in their in their games. So you know,

518
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 4: something that we're that balance we're trying to strike and

519
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 4: you know, hopefully we can get there as soon as

520
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 4: we can.

521
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 2: One of the other challenges I think that that your

522
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 2: team has going forward is this year, especially with not

523
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 2: being elsewhere, is that you are going to be forced

524
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 2: to a certain extent to play at least one or two,

525
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 2: probably younger players right out of necessity as much as anything,

526
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 2: And on different nights it might be different people. It's

527
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 2: kind of the way it's played out thus far. And

528
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: there's that age old question of whether a team that

529
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 2: has high aspirations, which you guys clearly have, can live with,

530
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: can tolerate some of the mistakes the young players almost

531
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 2: to a certain degree, have to be allowed to play

532
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 2: through to get to that better place later in the season.

533
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: How does Finchy thread that needle?

534
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know there is that balance as well. You know,

535
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 4: we need our young guys like we need them to

536
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 4: be ready and to you know, figure it out as

537
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 4: fast as they can. The hardest way to do it

538
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 4: is by watching. Sometimes you need them out there to

539
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 4: learn on the fly. They have to learn through mistakes

540
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 4: and be able to fight through it. And I think

541
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 4: Finchy's you know, trying to strike that balance by trying

542
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 4: to find you know, minutes for guys, trying to find

543
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 4: different lineups and opportunities, and I think it makes it

544
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 4: easier for them if our you know, say top five,

545
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 4: six seven guys are playing like themselves and doing what

546
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 4: we're supposed to do, you know, handling our business as

547
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 4: far as leading the team defensively and and and setting

548
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 4: a good blueprint, and you know, for those guys, so

549
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 4: when they get in the game, those mistakes that that

550
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 4: will happen, they're not as you know, elevated or you

551
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like it's not it's not such

552
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 4: a you're not looking at that like, oh man, the

553
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 4: big a big possession, We really really really needed that one.

554
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 4: Now the game might be going either way instead it's oh,

555
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 4: you know, it's frustrating, but yeah, we know it's going

556
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 4: to happen, and let them move forward and keep going

557
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 4: because we have a more comfortable leader, more comfortable feeling

558
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 4: towards the rest of the game because of the way

559
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 4: you know, the other guys are playing. So we're gonna

560
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,239
Speaker 4: rely on them and we're going to keep trusting them,

561
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 4: and then we're gonna.

562
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 2: Need it well I chuckle, just because I mean, Finci

563
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 2: strikes me as a guy who's pretty impatient. You know,

564
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: He's got a high standard, and it just there's times

565
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 2: where I just feel like if he doesn't feel like

566
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 2: he's getting stuff out of the young guy, he just

567
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 2: he ain't gonna play him that it's it's hard for

568
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: him to want to extend the rotation. I'm not saying

569
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: he's TIBs exactly, but he's got a little of that

570
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 2: in him, I think. And that's what's interesting to me

571
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 2: to see because in his mind, I'm sure he's saying, well,

572
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: I've got standards, so I don't want to have to

573
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: tolerate stuff that that. You know, players need to earn

574
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 2: their time. But it's such you know, dilling Ham to

575
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: me is a good example of this where he can

576
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: have some moments you go what are you doing? But

577
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 2: then you say, well you got to give him a

578
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: little bit of rope to see what he can develop

579
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: into a legler. I think it was the last night

580
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 2: of the broadcast said he thinks the key with Dillingham

581
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: in his mind is that even though he's a good scorer,

582
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 2: obviously said, look, he's got to do what he did

583
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: a few times early in his time yesterday, distribute, get

584
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: into the paint and get the ball to other people,

585
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 2: and that eventually the scoring part will come easily off

586
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: of that. But that really his next step in development

587
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 2: is more getting in to give the ball up.

588
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: Do you agree with that?

589
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 4: Yeah? You know, when I talk to Rob all the time,

590
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 4: it's you know, it's it's a about you know, the

591
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 4: small things that is going to keep him on the

592
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 4: floor and allow him to then, you know, as he

593
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 4: continues to develop game by game, you know, show the

594
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 4: rest of his game, Like he doesn't need to be

595
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 4: all world Rob building him every time he steps on

596
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 4: the floor, But can you do the top two or

597
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 4: three things that are asked of you from coaches perspective

598
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 4: or our team's perspective, and what we need you to

599
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 4: do on that night or a nightly basis, you know,

600
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 4: every time you've done on the floor, be consistent with that,

601
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 4: and then eventually get that rope to to you know,

602
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 4: move on to doing the other things that we know

603
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 4: you can do as well, that we see in practice

604
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 4: of those sparks and games and things like that. And

605
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 4: it's hard for him, obviously, because he believes in himself.

606
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 4: We all believe in him and want him to succeed immediately,

607
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 4: but you still have to you know, there's still gathers

608
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 4: of the coach. You got to follow game plans, you

609
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 4: got to do all things that kind of come with

610
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 4: that whole role. And he's done a great job of

611
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 4: sticking with it and being focused and locked in every

612
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 4: day and working towards, you know, getting himself, you know,

613
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 4: more and more playing time.

614
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 2: Wolves veteran Mike Conley kind of enough to join us

615
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: a couple more things with him Russo Radio to talk

616
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 2: hockey at the top of the hour. I'm seeing a

617
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,479
Speaker 2: lot of fifty point games. I feel like a lot

618
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: of forty nine to fifty one, fifty two point games.

619
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: And then when I'm looking at a lot of those games,

620
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: I'm seeing like twenty one for twenty two from the

621
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 2: free throw line, eighteen from nineteen from the free throw line,

622
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: which is good efficiency, which you can appreciate, is a

623
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: great free throw shooter. But I guess what I'm leading towards.

624
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: Are we seeing early in this season more fouls called?

625
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: Is the game being called tighter to that extent? This

626
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: often happens, and then it gets loose loosened up. But

627
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: what what do you see any trend so far in

628
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 2: terms of the officiating approach early in the season.

629
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 4: Mike, Yeah, you know, just noticing from those bigger games.

630
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 4: I'm thinking those bigger games, I've noticed it not so

631
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 4: much ethically.

632
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: In our games.

633
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 4: I don't think we've had too many guys go through

634
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 4: the line that many times, so I haven't really paid

635
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 4: too much such to it. But yeah, I think as

636
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 4: a whole, guys are you know, each year you come

637
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 4: in with you know, the endpoint of emphasis for the

638
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 4: NBA and the rest and what they're going to start

639
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 4: calling early and they normally you know, bloil a whistle

640
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 4: a lot more early on to try to emphasize those things.

641
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 4: And and then you get the players who understand those

642
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 4: you know, what's being emphasized, and and they're really smart

643
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 4: high IQ and they you know, exploit it a lot

644
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 4: of times. So you know that it's something that you know,

645
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 4: kind of happens a lot during the course of you know,

646
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 4: ebbs and flows of years of in the NBA, and

647
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 4: it'll you know, work its way into the game and

648
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 4: you know, by the end of the year we'll be

649
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 4: back being physical and you know, doing a lot of

650
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 4: a lot of extra hand checking and stuff that that

651
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 4: they might not allow right now.

652
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 2: I appreciate the time they have a good the safe

653
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 2: travels on the to the game to Charlotte, which I

654
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 2: think is coming up next, and we will talk soon.

655
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Speaker 1: Thanks Mike, all right, sounds good. I appreciate you. Mike Conley,

656
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: Timberwolves point guard.

657
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 2: On the wolves disappointing setback last night, one hundred and

658
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: sixteen to one fifteen, Austin Reeves hits the twelve footer

659
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: driving to the basket.

660
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: A terrific play.

661
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 2: It was good, very well played, and I as I

662
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe it wouldn't have mattered what kind of

663
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 2: defense that the Wolves play in that situation, because as

664
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: you heard, you know, Conley was very effusive in his

665
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 2: praise of the offensive skill that Reeves represents. And of

666
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 2: course the interesting thing will be he's got free reign

667
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: right now, right, and and that's going to obviously change

668
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 2: when lifts some Luca.

669
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: And Lebron come back.

670
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: I don't even know what's Lebron's wass be out a month, right,

671
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how Luca was like a couple of weeks,

672
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks. Was he there, by the way,

673
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: I didn't even notice him.

674
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: Was he on the bench?

675
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: I don't know. I know Lebron was not. Yeah, he

676
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: was at the World Series game a couple of nights.

677
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: And I see Lebron has kind of like a Phil

678
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: Jackson style chair because there was sciatica where you know

679
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 2: where it's like, you know, it kind of sits up

680
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 2: higher and it's a little more cushiony than everybody else's chair.

681
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 2: I'd say, I see that in La Probably he deserves it. Well, yeah,

682
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 2: I have no problem with it. I'm just curious because

683
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 2: it looked like I'm wondering if it's literally the Phil

684
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 2: Jackson chair.

685
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: The Jackson they had it right there.

686
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had it at Staples or I mean, you're

687
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 2: not gonna throw that.

688
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: Kind of chair away. It's an expensive chair.

689
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 2: Probably got a new book out, by the way, Phil,

690
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 2: he does, he got a new book out with saying

691
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 2: our guy Sam Smith formerly Chicago try being. What else

692
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 2: did he have to say? I twelve rings? Didn't I

693
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 2: guess this is? I guess this the uh, the steam

694
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 2: on it is. There's a lot of carmelo ripping in

695
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 2: it that they didn't coexist all in York.

696
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I always forget he was forgot. It was a

697
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 1: forgettable time Nicks.

698
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 2: And then also he there was almost the intimation.

699
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: That the league.

700
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 2: Frowned upon or was discouraging his continuing his relationship with

701
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 2: Genie Buss interesting, which I find their business. Yeah, that

702
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 2: was kind of kind of shaky to me about getting

703
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: in that business.

704
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

705
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: I'd have to maybe look, you know, these books to

706
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 2: get sold, you gotta you gotta get you gotta get

707
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: some voltage and some juice, and so maybe those are

708
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 2: the things that can we.

709
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: Get Phil on. That's what I want to know.

710
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: I'd love to get a great, great big chief trying

711
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 2: along with basically one of us.

712
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: He's from North Dakota. He should want to come on

713
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: with us, he is.

714
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 2: I how old is Phil Jackson? He's got to be

715
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 2: good in his seventies probably, don't you think? No, he's

716
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 2: older than nah?

717
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: Is he?

718
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna be seventy one. He was playing when

719
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 2: I was was in high school. Like you gotta be,

720
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 2: I've got to be. I'll double check it. I gotta

721
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 2: believe he's around eighty, Okay, but we'll find out. Phil

722
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: Jackson I think our chance would be good to get

723
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 2: Sam Smith. Probably not as good to get we had

724
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 2: Sam Smith on in the Last Dance, right, We've had

725
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,479
Speaker 2: him on over the decades. Yeah, a decent amount, although

726
00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: it's been a while. We used to have him on

727
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 2: a bus when he was still covering the last I

728
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: knew he was like the Bulls historians. That's right, working

729
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 2: for the Bulls, right. I don't know if he's still

730
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: doing that. Any final thoughts on last night's ball game,

731
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 2: because it I really only have one thought. First of all,

732
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 2: I know we were having fun with Reddick during the

733
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: playoffs last year because he was all mad about you

734
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 2: know the Yeah, he made a mess of the playoffs, right,

735
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 2: he overthought the playoffs playing you know, my team's on

736
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 2: the floor, Norman Dale.

737
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 3: You know, just giving him no chance to win. I

738
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: get he was shorthanded. He's got those dudes playing hard man.

739
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 3: And that's what bugged me last night. I just thought

740
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 3: I was saying to someone's earlier today. The Wolves to

741
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 3: me feel like, now you have a teenager, so maybe

742
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 3: you would you could know this. They feel like a teenager,

743
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 3: and that you never know what you're gonna do. They're

744
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 3: just like Moody, like they played thirty minutes where they

745
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 3: don't even look.

746
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: Like they like each other.

747
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 3: There's dribbling, they're not helping each other out on defense,

748
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 3: they're not connected, and then all of a sudden, the

749
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 3: balls flying around all over the place. They're making the

750
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 3: extra pass, they're helping the helper, they're guarding everybody. Conley's

751
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 3: playing well, he's dropping dimes to Jaden for dunks. Jayden's

752
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 3: offensively by the way, It's like the one bright spot

753
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 3: of the season. But games like last night, just for

754
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 3: a team that wants to talk about continuity and being

755
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 3: ready for the moment, like just be connected from the

756
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 3: go last night and I know ants out, but just

757
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 3: go handle that because the Lakers just played harder.

758
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: How many to other.

759
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 2: Teams in this league, including the Lakers last night, do

760
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 2: we see when they have their best or second best

761
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 2: player or both out.

762
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: A lot actually become more dangerous for the reasons you

763
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: laid out. Because they play hard.

764
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 2: They're playing hard, and they are playing connected. And that's why,

765
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 2: as odd as this sounds, I think it would have

766
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 2: been an injustice if the Wolves would have won that game.

767
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: I was not bothered going to send the wrong message that,

768
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 2: like you said, while we're going to turn it on

769
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 2: for twelve minutes, yep, and we're going to steal this

770
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 2: ball game. I don't think they deserve to be rewarded.

771
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 2: I think the basketball God said, we're gonna make sure

772
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 2: Reeves scores on this last possession, and that Finchy's gonna

773
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: call the wrong defense. Yes, because the Wolves do not

774
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 2: deserve to win this game. And there's one guy.

775
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 3: And this is what really bothers me about the team,

776
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 3: because they all talk about how much they love Mike

777
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 3: and they want to win for Mike.

778
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 1: Yes, and everybody loves Conley.

779
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 3: Conley's the one guy that's like grinding his ass off

780
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 3: the whole time. And I know he's not playing forty minutes,

781
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 3: but he's battling. No, he's definitely well, but he's battling.

782
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: But yes, like last night, it's sloppy one handed passes,

783
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 2: it's lazy passing the post, it's getting beat to loose balls.

784
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: It's all of that stuff that so you know me,

785
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: I'm loath to give the Lakers. And and even even

786
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 2: though I like JJ and I we've said it for

787
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 2: a year, Austin Reeves is the you know, the third

788
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 2: best option in the NBA.

789
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: We had a lot of fun with that.

790
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 3: It's like the dude's playing really hard and all the

791
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 3: other guys are playing hard too, and it's it's almost

792
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 3: like the Wolves are too cool to do that if

793
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 3: they're playing a scrappy underdog team. And that's what bugged me,

794
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 3: because I should remind them even at for people to win,

795
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 3: Laker tickets are expensive. There are any cheap tickets to

796
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 3: go even if Lebron and Luke aren't playing. They didn't

797
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 3: know Jack Nichlinson's not going anywhere. They didn't know that

798
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 3: in August when they when the single games went on sale.

799
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 3: It costs a lot of money to go to that

800
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 3: game last night, and people should be pissed if they

801
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 3: went and watched the first three quarters.

802
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 2: Phil Jackson turned eighty years old on September seventeen. Born

803
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 2: in Deer Lodge, Montana. Oh, deer Lodge. That sounds like

804
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 2: a made up place. Deer Lodge, Montana. What is this

805
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 2: some kind of fiction novel you just read at Barnes

806
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 2: and Noble.

807
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: It's possible.

808
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 2: Deer Lodge, Montana. Yeah, here's your most headline. Phil Jackson

809
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 2: blames Carmelo Anthony for drama, or blames Carmelo Anthony drama

810
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: or failed mixed tenure.

811
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: That's probably oversimplified.

812
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 2: But I've never loved Carmelo Anthony as much as basketball

813
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: people think I should.

814
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: I don't know why.

815
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 2: He's always bugged me just a little bit, even though

816
00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 2: he was undeniably skilled. I I don't know, that's just

817
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 2: something about him.

818
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: I always thought he was slightly overrated.

819
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 2: No Top five at five today because we go to

820
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: Russo Radio, who tweeted out to seven minutes ago, hurry,

821
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 2: I'm getting lightheaded in Fallness's cave. And then a picture

822
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: of a cereal milk soft served candle. So we better

823
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 2: get to him otherwise we're going to lose them. All right,

824
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: It is indeed time to check in with Russo Radio

825
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 2: from the historic Kevin Fallness studio, where allegedly all technical

826
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 2: issues that had you sounding like you were speaking into

827
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 2: a speakerphone last time have indeed been resolved.

828
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: Is that accurate, Russo Radio? Yeah? Because guards yep, sorry,

829
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: I'm just messing around. I have you had me?

830
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 5: I thought, yeah, good, you missed the punchline. To go ahead,

831
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 5: let's start over. I said it was because guards he's

832
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 5: back on the clock.

833
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: An a professional. You're throwing under the bus that.

834
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, apparently Fawmless was the least responsible of the Yeah,

835
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 5: of course he was. How he was like fast asleep,

836
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 5: Bread apparently didn't feel like it was necessary to tell.

837
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: Anybody that there was an issue.

838
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 5: So, uh, you know, fawmnss was just kind of clueless

839
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 5: in there, which is, you know, his normal, normal standard

840
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 5: but default. But this time I don't blame him as much.

841
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: Which can't. What's the scent than the candle?

842
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 5: Cereal milk sauce serve was definitely, I will say it's

843
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:43,959
Speaker 5: the best sense that he's had ever.

844
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 2: I don't want my candle to smell like something I

845
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 2: want to eat.

846
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, does that to be that exotic? It is?

847
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: It is?

848
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 5: It does smell like ice cream. And I will say,

849
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 5: I don't know if you've been to that. There's a

850
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 5: like an ice cream shop on I think it's Grand

851
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 5: episode St.

852
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 4: Paul.

853
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I would know about it smells like you

854
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 5: when you walk in there.

855
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: Sis. It's pretty good. Yeah, No, it's it's good.

856
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 5: It's definitely of all the fall Less candles, this is

857
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 5: by far the best, so so good.

858
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to look it up on Amazon and maybe

859
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:14,959
Speaker 1: get a couple.

860
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 2: Well, you could make the argument that right now, what

861
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 2: falls should have is candles that smell really bad, because

862
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 2: if he wants to really reflect the odor emanating from

863
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 2: your favorite hockey team, let's be honest, that's what it is.

864
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: We're not sailing along, are we. No.

865
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 5: No, they've won three out of eleven games, so they're

866
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 5: certainly not that. And they're playing a team tonight that's

867
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 5: got a point streak in nine straight games. By the way,

868
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 5: if you start to lose me, how these just walked

869
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 5: into the studio, So there's a good chance that, uh,

870
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 5: something's gonna get unplugged.

871
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: But no, they're they're not playing well.

872
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 5: And I remember talking to you before opening night when

873
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 5: we were in Saint Louis and.

874
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: You asked me about the season.

875
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 5: I just said I was concerned, just because you know,

876
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 5: they an audible happened right going into training camp, where

877
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 5: Zucarello reported heard, and that obviously was a situation where

878
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 5: I think coming into camp, we all knew that that

879
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 5: this team really lacked depth in the top six and

880
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 5: couldn't really afford losing that right off the hop if

881
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 5: Liam Ogrin and Danelo You're off didn't show that they

882
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 5: were ready right away. And I think they're gonna be

883
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 5: good players, but they didn't show that they're ready to

884
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 5: grasp that right away. And and then Yuko Sterm gets

885
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 5: hurt as well. Who was the person that was supposed

886
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 5: to come here and cure all their face off troubles

887
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 5: and penalty killed troubles, and and and he gets hurt

888
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 5: the first day of camp, and so it's it hasn't

889
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 5: been a good, good start to the season. I think

890
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 5: guys are starting to really try to do too much

891
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 5: on the ice. They've come close to the last couple

892
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 5: of games to getting themselves out of it and getting

893
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 5: a win, and obviously lost both games in overtime. But

894
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 5: you know, at this point, it's not about the process anymore.

895
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 5: We're at a tipping point. They got to get they

896
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 5: got to get some w's.

897
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is sadly at that point, and I I

898
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 2: would will far be it from me to be presumptuous

899
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 2: enough to tell you how to do your job, because

900
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 2: nobody does it better than you do. But I'm hoping

901
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 2: that you and Joe and whoever is covering this team

902
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 2: on a given night, even if they hear a player,

903
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 2: a wild player say we really think we deserve to

904
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 2: win or got the better of it, that you guys

905
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 2: will dutifully, you know, take the note as if you're

906
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: writing it down and nod your head, but not included

907
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 2: in the story because Russo, in all honesty, does it

908
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 2: not reach a point where it's utterly meaningless. And I

909
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: don't know why any fan would sit there and say, oh, okay,

910
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 2: I feel a lot better now.

911
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 1: That explains it.

912
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 2: There's just not enough equity on this club to me

913
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 2: to go down that road, even if on a given

914
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 2: night there might be some truth to it.

915
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, you're right. I mean, you know, almost beating

916
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 5: the San Jose Sharks is not something to you know,

917
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 5: lay your hat on, and you know, if you were

918
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 5: the San Jose Sharks, there's time for moral victories. But

919
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 5: right right now, this team, this is not the way

920
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 5: this season was supposed to start. You know, fans and

921
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 5: this organization have been waiting for years for the for

922
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 5: the buyout trouble to go away, and they come into

923
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 5: this year and they went for three of their first

924
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 5: eleven games, and what what to me is more concerning

925
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 5: is is how they get out of this because, uh,

926
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 5: you know, save for the Winnipeg game, which which you know,

927
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 5: I think is a team that still probably lacks speed,

928
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 5: the three the three games before that, you know, Utah

929
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 5: and San Jose and New Jersey really skated circles.

930
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: Around them at times in those games and.

931
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 5: Look like they are the younger, fresher legs and and

932
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 5: the reality is that the Wild have married themselves to

933
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 5: this core. And yeah they have some young kids coming,

934
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 5: but none of them are really high, high end guys.

935
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 5: So these players on the ice, when Bill Gerran says

936
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 5: it's fixable, it has to be fixable through the team

937
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 5: that he has he is constructed here and right now

938
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 5: it looks like a lot of these teams are on

939
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 5: the sort of passing them by, and that's you know, look,

940
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 5: there's a lot of reasons for that. The teams that

941
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 5: have sort of had you know, a huge young core,

942
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 5: especially the ones like in Utah, these teams have been

943
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 5: terrible for a long long time and have gotten top

944
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 5: five picks routinely, where the Wild never seemed to get that.

945
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 5: And you know, right now, as good as the Wild

946
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 5: really believe their prospect pool is if you look at

947
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 5: anybody in their system. Nobody is like a Macklin Celebrini

948
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 5: or a Logan Cooley or a Dylan Gunther or JJ Patka.

949
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 5: They don't have that coming. And that's concerning because a

950
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 5: lot of these teams that have been terrible for a

951
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 5: long time. We've seen Chicago get off to a great start.

952
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 5: We've seen what maclan Celebrini could do. We're gonna see

953
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 5: eventually what the byproduct of Anaheim. Detroit's gotten a rough

954
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 5: to a really good start, even though it's a different conference.

955
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 5: There's just a lot of teams here that have been

956
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 5: able to because they've been terrible, get these high, high picks.

957
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 5: And I think it's you know, eventually that bill comes due,

958
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 5: and I think the Wild's core have gotten as they've

959
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 5: just routinely gotten older, you know, are starting to look

960
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 5: that way on the ice.

961
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 2: What was the message that you took out of Garren

962
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 2: meeting with the captains?

963
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 1: What was that all about.

964
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 5: I think it's, you know, it's kind of the complete

965
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 5: opposite of what he did a couple of years ago

966
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 5: when he fired Dean. You know, the monday before we

967
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 5: went we all went to Sweden, he went into the

968
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 5: locker room and tore the paint off the wall, so

969
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 5: to speak, and went one by one and just ripped

970
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 5: into everybody. And you just knew at that point that

971
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 5: that that Dean was really on a short lease, even

972
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,919
Speaker 5: though Billy was doing everything possible not to fire him

973
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 5: this time. I think he is realized and kind of

974
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 5: what I just told you is that it has the

975
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 5: answers have to be in the room. So I think

976
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 5: he's trying to, you know, one, get information, but also,

977
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 5: you know, explain to these players just the urgency of

978
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 5: the situation to get them out of it, and how

979
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 5: much they need all three of those guys, Capri, Sauspurgeon

980
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 5: and Felino to play better. But also the fact that

981
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 5: that they are in this together and you know, trying

982
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 5: to find out what they could do to make it

983
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 5: easier for this team to start winning. And so you know,

984
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 5: obviously those are private conversations, and building give me a

985
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 5: big rundown of exactly what was said. I know, you know,

986
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 5: Spurge and Felino, We've talked to them and I've gotten

987
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 5: sort of a gist of it. But I think it

988
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 5: comes down to, again what I've been saying is that

989
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 5: I think that their you know, Bill came into this

990
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 5: season thinking that they were going to be a really

991
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 5: good team and that eventually he would accrue cap space

992
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 5: and really go for that big big fish in some

993
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 5: sort of capacity in a trade. And I don't think

994
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 5: he ever envisioned that he might have to make some

995
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 5: trades to save the season. The reality, though, is I

996
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 5: think that what that tells me is that Bill has

997
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 5: done a lot of due diligence in the last couple

998
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 5: of weeks to try to figure out what the landscape

999
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 5: is out there. And not only is it hard to

1000
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 5: make a trade, there hasn't been a significant trade in

1001
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 5: the NHL in months, But I think he realizes that

1002
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 5: right now there's really no great players available. You know,

1003
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 5: he's not going to trade for Nozm Kadri and take

1004
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 5: three years of a thirty five year old at seven

1005
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 5: million dollars. You know, Nick Robertson is you know, might

1006
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 5: be available in Toronto, But this is a twenty four

1007
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 5: year old undersized winger that really is that the type

1008
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 5: of thing that's gonna make an impact enough to save

1009
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 5: your season?

1010
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1011
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 5: Could he trade right now for probably fifteen bottom Yeah,

1012
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 5: you know, fourth line you know what, what's that do?

1013
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 5: So I think he's realizing that there's at this juncture,

1014
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 5: really nothing out there that that is going to make

1015
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 5: the impact that this team needs. And when it comes

1016
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 5: down to it, especially when you look at that Winnipeg

1017
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 5: the other that game the other night, they need to

1018
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 5: save from Gustafson, they're not getting it.

1019
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: Analytically.

1020
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 5: In seven to the last eight games, they've had the

1021
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 5: second best goalie on the ice between Gustafson and Walstad

1022
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 5: and whoever they're playing against.

1023
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 1: That's not a good thing.

1024
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,919
Speaker 5: The other night against Winnipeg, it was a three goal

1025
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 5: swing between the saved above expected for a guy like

1026
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 5: Hella Buck and Gustuson. So he's got to be better

1027
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 5: the sant game. Valstat's got to be better. Then then

1028
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,439
Speaker 5: you're you're superstar. I mean, you know, there's a lot

1029
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 5: of issues on this team right now, and I know

1030
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 5: that Wild fans seem to be sensitive to anybody criticizing

1031
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 5: Carill according to uh whenever we do it and the

1032
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 5: comments that we get back. But I'm sorry, Like he's

1033
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 5: turning the puck over ten times a game, and look,

1034
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 5: don't ever look at the giveaways on the stat sheet.

1035
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 5: You know, I know that they have him like top

1036
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 5: five in the league with nineteen giveaways. He's had nineteen

1037
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 5: giveaways this week. It is it is, It is not

1038
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 5: a stat that is treated, that is that is recorded

1039
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 5: accurately in the National Hockey League. You know, two games

1040
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 5: ago in San Jose, he turned the puck over twice

1041
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 5: for goals and once leading to a penalty.

1042
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 1: That that that led to a goal.

1043
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 5: Last game in overtime, a blind pass in the neutra

1044
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 5: zone turned the game upside down. Power plays almost every

1045
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 5: single night or ended because he's turning the puck over

1046
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 5: on an east to west play in the high slot.

1047
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 5: That is clearly starting to be anticipated by penalty kills

1048
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 5: because they picking him off constantly in games. And he

1049
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 5: just is a player, I mean, like a lot of

1050
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 5: Russian players that likes to play in East West brand

1051
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 5: of hockey. But it's starting to become problematic when you

1052
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 5: can't stop a puck. And right now, the Wild they're

1053
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 5: one of the worst defensive teams in the league. They've

1054
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 5: they've trailed more than every team in the league but

1055
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 5: two by but one. And so you know, when you're

1056
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 5: not good defensively or you're struggling to that point. You've

1057
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 5: got to play a simple game and try to eke

1058
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 5: out some victories and be careful with the puck, and

1059
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 5: he's not doing it right now. So again I don't

1060
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 5: mean to just pick on him. There's a lot of

1061
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 5: problems on this team. Fellino has n't been good, Spurgeon

1062
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 5: hasn't been great. You know, there's a lot of a

1063
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 5: lot of passengers right now, Yakov Trenyon. I'm not positive

1064
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 5: exactly what he's doing out there. There's a lot of issues,

1065
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 5: but they you know, carill like it or not.

1066
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: When you're now.

1067
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,919
Speaker 5: The highest paid player in the NHL for a long

1068
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 5: long time and by a wide margin, the standard is

1069
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 5: higher for you. And he's got to be better than

1070
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 5: he's been. You know, he's got to be better at

1071
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 5: even strength offensively, and he's certainly got to be better

1072
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:06,919
Speaker 5: defensively and taking care of the puck.

1073
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was chuckling listening to you talking about, especially

1074
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 2: about doing the little things defensively and so forth, when

1075
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 2: you don't have much margin for air. And I admit

1076
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 2: this is silly sentimentality, but what I got triggered when

1077
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 2: when Lemaire part of the twenty fifth anniversary, said when

1078
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 2: he came back, I got triggered.

1079
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 1: I'm not lying to you. I'm going.

1080
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 2: You know, he's got that unmistable, unmistakable grin, that look

1081
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,479
Speaker 2: that he has on his face. He's aged a little,

1082
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 2: but he still looks pretty much the same. Still to me,

1083
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 2: sounds the same.

1084
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: And I'm going.

1085
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 2: I told Louis, I said, no offense on Heinz. This

1086
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 2: is even about Hines at all. But if you could

1087
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 2: hire an eighty year old coach and he'd be willing

1088
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 2: to do it, I'd do it in a minute, because

1089
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 2: I do harken back to that time, because you did

1090
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 2: at least feel like then they may not have been

1091
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 2: interesting to watch, but that they knew their limitations and

1092
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,959
Speaker 2: he had a standard, and by god they were gonna

1093
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 2: have to abide by it.

1094
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: I missed Lamaire.

1095
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I look, I mean, first of all,

1096
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 5: he doesn't want to do it, so it's right, that's

1097
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 5: not happening.

1098
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: But you're right.

1099
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 5: I mean that opening night, he must have had a

1100
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 5: heart attack watching that, and the you know, it's just

1101
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 5: the way the Wild War. Look, you know, I think

1102
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 5: Falmness had Mary and Gabrick on the pod. The other

1103
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 5: day and Gabrick said it's the best. And remember they

1104
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 5: had their battles. I mean, you know, there's a lot

1105
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 5: of people that felt that that, you know, Lamaire is

1106
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 5: the reason why Gabrick maybe didn't hit that fifteen old

1107
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 5: more fourteinely or forty more than the one time he

1108
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 5: did in this organization that he was, you know, had

1109
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 5: the handcuffs on him. And yet when when Falmness asked

1110
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 5: them about Lamaire, I again, correct me if I'm wrong,

1111
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 5: Fawmless if I'm misquoting him, but he said he's the

1112
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 5: best coach he's ever had. And this is a guy

1113
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 5: that won a Cup in LA and has had a

1114
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 5: lot of good coaches in the National Hockey League.

1115
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: So I think that says a lot. And it's the

1116
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 1: age old.

1117
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 5: You know, how many times do you talk to a

1118
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 5: professional athlete years and years and years after their ending

1119
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 5: their career ends and they realized, you know what, that

1120
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 5: guy to get it really rode me hard. Was actually

1121
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 5: the best thing that ever happened to me and helped

1122
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 5: me learn about life and the game. And that's what

1123
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 5: Jacques did. And you're right, I mean, no, they've had

1124
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 5: a lot of great teams here since Shaq as well,

1125
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 5: and Mike yelwa is the only coach in Wild history

1126
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 5: that got them past the first round twice, and they

1127
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 5: were a really good defensive team under Mike. And but

1128
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 5: I think what's perplexing about the last three years with

1129
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,919
Speaker 5: the Wild is that this organization has always been a

1130
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 5: really good home team and a really good penalty killing team.

1131
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 5: And the Wild have been a really awful home team

1132
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 5: the last few years, and their penalty kill is beyond

1133
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 5: god awful. And the thing that concerned me the last

1134
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 5: game here that we're seeing now is empty seats. You know,

1135
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 5: this has not been a fun place to watch the

1136
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 5: Wild play for too long here. You know, they were

1137
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 5: one of the best road teams in the league last year,

1138
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 5: but a really mediocre home team until the end of

1139
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 5: the season. And fans here are starting to get tired

1140
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 5: of coming out here and not having fun and not

1141
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 5: seeing victories. And and last game, the amount of empty

1142
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 5: seats in the upper Bowl is very, very concerning. And

1143
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 5: so and that was a game where you know, Gabriick

1144
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 5: and Bouchard and Ralston and Veyu came back, and you know,

1145
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 5: and that wasn't enough to sell the place out. So

1146
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 5: this team to start off a six game homestand after

1147
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 5: such a bad road trip with no victories so far

1148
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 5: in three games, is very, very concerning.

1149
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,240
Speaker 1: What else do we need to know about the Pens

1150
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 1: tonight's opponent.

1151
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 5: Well, they're playing well, and you know, Sidney Crosby always

1152
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 5: turns back the clock. It's not like this is a

1153
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 5: resurgence of him. He's had an unbelievable start to the

1154
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 5: year sixteen points. Fifteen points in eleven games. Malkin is

1155
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 5: the one that's absolutely turned back the clock. You know,

1156
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 5: this is somebody that the last two or three years

1157
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 5: really look like he's slowing down. He leaves the league

1158
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 5: and assists and has sixteen points in eleven games. How

1159
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 5: about this one for you. Matt dumbe is in the lineup,

1160
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,399
Speaker 5: Connor Doors in the lineup. But the one guy that

1161
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 5: has had a great, great start for the Pittsburgh Penguins

1162
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 5: is Justin Brazoh, the Wilds trade deadline pickup last year

1163
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 5: that really wasn't very good here. And you know why

1164
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 5: was he not very good here? Well, he's not checker.

1165
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 5: He's a scorer. He's always been a scorer. He was

1166
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 5: a scorer in juniors, he was a scorer at times

1167
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 5: in Boston. Well, the Wild acquired him to put on

1168
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 5: the fourth line and he just didn't have that type

1169
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 5: of impact. Well now he's playing with Malkin and he

1170
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 5: has six goals and twelve points in eleven games. So

1171
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 5: Braso is just put in a position that he wasn't

1172
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 5: able to play here because of the Wild's top six.

1173
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 5: But it also shows that when you make a trade

1174
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 5: deadline pickup, you gotta you can't just you know, as

1175
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 5: I wrote today about or the other day about David Yurchek,

1176
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,760
Speaker 5: a leopard doesn't change his spots. Braso might be huge,

1177
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 5: but he's not a checker. He doesn't hit. He scores,

1178
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 5: and David Yurachek same thing at six', four he's one

1179
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 5: hit this. Season you, know He's he's not the type

1180
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 5: of player that that's going to add a lot of

1181
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 5: physicality on a blue line that has no physicalities or little.

1182
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 5: Physicality so there's there's some issues right now in This

1183
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 5: wild line.

1184
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 1: Up have fun, tonight good check good checking in with

1185
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: you as.

1186
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 2: Always we will we'll chat next week and say how

1187
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 2: to falls tell him that the sound QUALITY i thought

1188
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 2: was superb.

1189
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: Today you're, welcome. Everybody great. Job guardsey did a great. Job.

1190
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 5: Adults, yeah it's it's about. Time it just shows that

1191
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 5: you can't take any time off. Guardsy, well it's job.

1192
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 5: Security it's job.

1193
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 3: SECURITY i got to let other people try to do

1194
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 3: WHAT i do and make it seem you, know so,

1195
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 3: easy so.

1196
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: Difficult it's. DIFFICULT i have to come. Back, yeah, yeah

1197
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: they can't do it without.

1198
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 5: You if it sounded LIKE i was on a phone,

1199
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 5: booth there's no doubt you would have said. Something but

1200
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 5: apparently that was fine With Blake.

1201
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 3: Moore he was probably Watching Jordan love highlights and wasn't even.

1202
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 3: Listening that's a good.

1203
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: Point very. Possible, Thanks, ma would be, good all, right

1204
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: see It Russo, Radio thanks. Everybody The.

1205
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 2: WELL i used to be called THE. X what's it called?

1206
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 2: Now Grand? Casino is? It have we shortened that to anything?

1207
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 3: Yet that's some people have it's not appropriate for a

1208
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 3: family friendly.

1209
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Speaker 1: RADIO i have heard that.

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Speaker 3: One, yeh shout out to ten thousand.

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Speaker 1: Takes that's very. True.

1212
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 2: Guys is there a clean shortened one? Yet, no not

1213
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 2: really to call it The Grand if you, WANT i

1214
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 2: guess you can call it.

1215
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: The Grand, yeah that's, very very.

1216
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 2: True how can there be empty seats in the state of?

1217
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 2: Hockey good. QUESTION i don't. KNOW i MEAN i like to.

1218
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 2: Think actually it's it means the state of hockey is

1219
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 2: finally trying to adhere to some standards and, saying come,

1220
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 2: on come, on, guys let's get. This let's get this thing.

1221
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 2: Going who's to say.

1222
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 3: It's also tryout season for all the youth, teams you,

1223
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 3: know so we're, crazy all all hockey families And i'm

1224
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 3: in that all us time.

1225
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,240
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1226
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,480
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1227
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1240
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,360
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1241
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,480
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1242
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,600
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1243
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,959
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1244
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:17,600
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00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:22,240
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1246
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 2: intended as we say thank you very much To Mike

1247
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 2: conley who joined at four, thirty we say thank you

1248
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 2: very much To Sean salisbury who joined at three, thirty

1249
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 2: and thank you To Russo radio who joined from the

1250
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 2: fall in the studio moments ago THAT i really wanted

1251
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 2: to spend a little more time on This university Of minnesota.

1252
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 2: KERFUFFLE i have not found myself over the years necessarily

1253
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 2: defending The university Of minnesota all that MUCH i piled

1254
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 2: on when they've been. Vulnerable BUT i am perplexed at

1255
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 2: this notion that The university Of minnesota is somehow obligated

1256
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 2: to take care of every high school graduation in a

1257
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 2: six state. AREA i don't know where you are on this,

1258
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 2: subject but they made the big announcement and people are.

1259
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 2: JOLTED i mean here They're. JOE i, Mean i'm hearing

1260
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 2: these these these comebacks of how dare? They what's wrong with?

1261
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 2: Them that's their. Responsibility who decided it's their. Responsibility it

1262
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 2: is the story.

1263
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: That they're telling.

1264
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 2: ACCURATE i don't know basically what the university is saying

1265
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 2: is it's too. Much it's it's too much stress over

1266
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 2: too short a period of. Time, yeah we make a

1267
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 2: little bit of money off of. IT i think they

1268
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 2: make according to the. Story is it like two thousand

1269
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 2: bucks twenty thousand bucks? Total, OKAY i don't know what

1270
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 2: that is for. Graduation, well it's a decent amount of.

1271
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 2: Money that's not a, lot but it's not enough for.

1272
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 1: Me And i'm.

1273
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 2: Assuming also they've got just because they were, shooting was their?

1274
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 2: Shootings were their shootings once or? TWICE i, thought just the,

1275
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 2: yeah that means that that that that's going to happen

1276
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 2: all the. Time but in their mind they, say we

1277
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 2: don't need that. Headache we don't need because let's be

1278
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 2: clear about. Something if there's if there's another problem like

1279
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 2: that we even had heard it. Then but if it happens,

1280
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 2: again guess who's gonna get ripped for your? Security university Of.

1281
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 2: Minnesota So i'm i'm how did we? Get how did

1282
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 2: graduation get so out of control that every the, parents, grandparents, uncles,

1283
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 2: cousins distant, cousins, friends all decide they have a right

1284
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 2: to be, there and by, god you're not going to

1285
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 2: stop me.

1286
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: Llage i'm.

1287
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 2: SORRY I i do. NOT i do not find this

1288
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 2: as scandalous as other people. Do AND i don't know

1289
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 2: what their real reasoning, is BUT i think they have

1290
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 2: a right because how many of these are that we.

1291
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: Doing they're doing a bunch of.

1292
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,919
Speaker 2: These because all the big schools are, doing and it's

1293
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 2: convenient they've been. There but because they've they've made themselves.

1294
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 2: AVAILABLE i don't think that means that they're obligated to

1295
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,959
Speaker 2: continue to make themselves. Available, sorry go back to what's

1296
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 2: about this novel. Concept go back to doing it in

1297
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 2: your high. Schools and if you have to limit because

1298
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 2: you've got bigger, enrollments limit. It it's gonna be. Okay

1299
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 2: in all, honesty the most boring thing to go through is.

1300
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 2: Graduation it Is it's it's it's it's not Even AND i.

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01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 3: Only graduated, once So i'll, allow DON'T i remember a good?

1302
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: Point but, no you're, RIGHT i.

1303
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 2: DON'T i Guess I've i've read so many people who are,

1304
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 2: like oh, this what are they?

1305
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: Doing how dare?

1306
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 2: They do you realize the difficult position this puts a

1307
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 2: lot of these school districts tough deal with. It be,

1308
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 2: Inventive be. Creative why does The university Of minnesota have

1309
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 2: to bail them? Out AM i being too easy on

1310
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 2: The university Of, minnesota which is rare for.

1311
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 3: Me, no because there's also some places have USED Us.

1312
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 3: BANK i Think, minetaka our high school's done. That at your,

1313
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 3: time there's other. Options there's plenty of other, options and

1314
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 3: they just don't want to deal with the. Headache that's their.

1315
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 3: BUSINESS i would also say they should never have Allowed

1316
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 3: Lakeville north to have graduation.

1317
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 1: There they can go do it In madison if they.

1318
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 3: Want to, go if they want to have their, graduates because's.

1319
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 1: Convenient you tempt, Them you could do move in.

1320
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 2: Weekend they might just bring all your stuff and every

1321
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 2: all the graduates can just go. There this is for,

1322
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 2: you by the, Way Deer Lodge montana is a real.

1323
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 2: Place not everyone lives in a. Dina, okay it's just,

1324
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 2: saying all, right that's what we're. Doing we just thought

1325
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 2: it was too, exotical so. Mythical it sounds. AMAZING i

1326
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 2: want to Visit Deer, Lodge. Montana it sounds it might

1327
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 2: be a good place to.

1328
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 1: VISIT i. DON'T i don't.

1329
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 3: Know apologies to The Deer, Lodge montana community for doubting.

1330
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 1: Them who. Knew, YEAH i had no. Idea but have

1331
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: you noticed the, blowback the pushback on.

1332
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 3: This i've just noticed that the fact that there's a

1333
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 3: big story about, it and that it's one of the

1334
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 3: most READ i think tells.

1335
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 2: You, YEAH i just don't understand, it especially for. Criticize,

1336
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 2: yeah it's it's it's not that much. Money and by the,

1337
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 2: way even though we've not exactly had an endless number of,

1338
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 2: Shootings i'll be honest with, you if you already aren't

1339
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 2: sure you've got the manpower to devote to taking, care you,

1340
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 2: know to dealing with the numbers that are that attend these. Events,

1341
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 2: Right if you have to have some, responsibility it's at

1342
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 2: The university Of. Minnesota if you already have some concerns

1343
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 2: about this being out of. CONTROL i have no problem

1344
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 2: if it only took one shooting incident and they, say

1345
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 2: you know, what we don't need this.

1346
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 1: Now that doesn't mean we're.

1347
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 2: LETTING i, mean it doesn't mean we are assuming that

1348
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 2: every time something like this is going to. Happen BUT

1349
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 2: i can see a school saying we're. Good this is

1350
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 2: something we're not required to. Do there's a lot of

1351
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 2: stuff we are required to, do which we do whether

1352
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 2: we like it or, not because we have.

1353
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:43,919
Speaker 1: To this ain't.

1354
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 2: It we don't need that headache, because AS i, said

1355
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 2: if there's another incident and it's as bad Or god forbid,

1356
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 2: worse believe, me the same people who are whining now about,

1357
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 2: hey we should be able to send seventeen relatives to

1358
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 2: my little Kid johnny's graduation will be, said where's the?

1359
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 1: Security how does this get this out of?

1360
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 2: Control SO i got, NO i don't think the university

1361
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 2: has anything to apologize for in this.

1362
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: Case none. NOTHING a lot of these big.

1363
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 3: SCHOOLS i know it's hard to do outdoors because weather's,

1364
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 3: unpredictable but just do it at your own football.

1365
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 1: Stadium.

1366
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 2: Exactly It's, june, right there's a million. WAYS i think

1367
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 2: even at bigger, SCHOOLS i think you. Can you, can

1368
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 2: you can find ways to. Do and WHAT i love

1369
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 2: about this is now they're going to have.

1370
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 3: To you do have to make the. Cut when you

1371
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 3: do it in an indoor, building you. SHOULD i remember

1372
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 3: how tight it was making the tough decision on which

1373
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 3: aunts and uncles got to use our six tickets or

1374
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 3: whatever it was for. Graduation something has again happened culturally

1375
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 3: about this. Event i'm Not i'm not criticizing the. Event

1376
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 3: i'm not pretending that it is not an important right of.

1377
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 3: Passage but there's something that's gotten grandfathered in, again which

1378
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 3: is everybody gets to go THAT i, have THAT i

1379
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 3: should have that, right and once upon a, time for

1380
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 3: whatever i'd like to, THINK i don't remember these same,

1381
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 3: problems in part because every aunt and, uncle Every, Tom

1382
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 3: dick And harry didn't, say you're not stopping me from

1383
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 3: going to see my distant cousin. Graduate in all, HONESTY

1384
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 3: i think back then a lot of these relatives were

1385
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 3: relieved that they couldn't.

1386
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 2: Go they, said, well, okay so that's, nice it's, cute

1387
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 2: we're happy that he. Graduated at the, party were at the,

1388
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 2: party and it's not that big a deal to actually

1389
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 2: have to attend the.

1390
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 3: Event i'll actually tell you there's a lot of relatives

1391
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 3: right now that are relieved that they.

1392
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 1: Might have to go. Back oh, okay, yeah there's no.

1393
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 1: Tickets oh, no not. That how about that exactly, Right,

1394
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 1: yeah because they don't love their it's not that a.

1395
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 1: Party it's it's.

1396
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 2: Fine we don't need every form of. Inflation this is a.

1397
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 2: Graduation inflation is out of. Control they, AGAIN i think

1398
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 2: these schools should actually be thanking THE u because it's

1399
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 2: going to force them a to either be creative or be,

1400
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 2: say we're just cutting.

1401
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 1: Back we out of. Necessity this is just what we're

1402
01:06:58,080 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 1: gonna have to.

1403
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 2: Do and you, know but everybody will be, fine like you,

1404
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 2: said they can all show up at the.

1405
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 1: Party, yeah live stream it.

1406
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 2: Too that's where the food, is, Right usually live stream

1407
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 2: they usually do that kind of stuff and and everything is,

1408
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 2: good and you, know, SO i don't, Know i'm JUST

1409
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 2: i GUESS i was just stunned that it has become

1410
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 2: such a a massive talking.

1411
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 3: Point the statement you think there'll be protesters from high

1412
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 3: schoolers at the game this, Weekend Like i'm going to

1413
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 3: be doing the show On Oak. Street you go for

1414
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 3: pregame show at twelve thirty Against Michigan state right, here

1415
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 3: And i'm going to be fighting Off minnetaka, You Dina

1416
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 3: Wisetta mounds, you you Know woodbury. Protests i'll be ready for.

1417
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 2: Sure hosting more than twenty outside of eventsure thousands of

1418
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 2: attendees over two week period represents a significant strain of

1419
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,439
Speaker 2: the university's limited resources that is no longer.

1420
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 1: Sustainable could they be fudging on? That could they?

1421
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 2: Possibly but that doesn't sound Like that's that such an

1422
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 2: outlandish statement to.

1423
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 3: Me, WELL i assume they're talking about security for. Sure

1424
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 3: it has to be part of. IT a lot of

1425
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 3: especially like right, now a lot of the security PEOPLE

1426
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 3: i know it At Huntington. Bank you, know it's the

1427
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 3: same company that works At, mariucci that works At. Williams

1428
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 3: like they work a, Lot AND i imagine that this

1429
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:08,959
Speaker 3: is a way to give them a break.

1430
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 2: TOO a bunch of shrieking aunts and uncles and parents

1431
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 2: who refuse to abide by the rules which just, say

1432
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 2: don't go crazy when your kid gets. Announced, yeah you,

1433
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 2: know maybe if people would comport themselves, better you would, say,

1434
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 2: yeah let's do. IT i any EXCUSE i would have

1435
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 2: to get out of, It i'd have no.

1436
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 1: Problem i'm on the use side on this. One and

1437
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 1: AS i, said that's fairly.

1438
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:30,680
Speaker 3: Rare i'm gonna invite you to our, kids give you

1439
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 3: one of the. Tickets there you, go just a hoot and.

1440
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 2: Holler Vikings, podcast Then Minnesota Wild hockey And The, beast

1441
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