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Speaker 1: Marcus in the morning, back with second date update. Yet again,

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Speaker 1: just trying to help people out. Ben is on the phone, Ben, good.

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Speaker 2: Morning, Hey, what's up?

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Speaker 3: Good morning guys?

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Speaker 2: Hey man, how long you been on the dating scene?

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Speaker 3: Too long? Right out there? Man, it's hard.

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Speaker 2: That's what I hear.

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad I don't have to do this. I

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Speaker 1: live vicariously through all these calls. Let's talk about Samanthic.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about Apparently, guys had dinner in

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Speaker 1: San Jose. You met her online, and I just I

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Speaker 1: want to figure out, So you had dinner and then

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Speaker 1: what did you talk about or how did it go?

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Speaker 3: I mean, like again, I feel like it went really well.

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Speaker 3: It was dinner and then after dinner it was like, hey,

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Speaker 3: do you want to get drinks? Like they just had

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Speaker 3: like a bar and I was like, oh, just move

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Speaker 3: over there and just happening drinks and we stayed and

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Speaker 3: we kept talking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So like I feel like if it went poorly, she

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Speaker 3: would have been like no, I got to get going.

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Speaker 3: But we stayed and we had drinks. Sure, it felt

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Speaker 3: just relaxed. It felt natural. I mean, like you know,

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Speaker 3: nothing like crazy deep, but like not forced.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I walked away feeling like this is a sure thing,

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Speaker 3: like I'm definitely gonna want to see this person again.

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Speaker 3: And I clear that I was wrong.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well let's try to figure it out. So I

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Speaker 1: don't know how long you've been listening to the show,

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Speaker 1: if you know how this works. But I'm gonna have

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Speaker 1: you on the line. We're going to call her. You

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Speaker 1: will be muted so she can't hear you, but it'll

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Speaker 1: allow you to listen in and I'll just ask her

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Speaker 1: a few questions about the date.

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Speaker 2: I would love to get you a second date, but

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Speaker 2: got you. Here we go.

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Speaker 4: Hello.

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Speaker 2: Hi, is this Samantha. Yeah, Samantha, this is Marcus calling

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Speaker 2: from Star one on one three. Good morning. First of all, sorry,

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Speaker 2: where are my manners? Hi?

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Speaker 4: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: I don't suppose you listened to the show in the morning,

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Speaker 2: do you No?

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Speaker 4: I have so I do. I'm just what are you

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Speaker 4: calling about.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry to bug you so early. Are you familiar

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Speaker 2: with our segment second date update?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I understand you've been on a date recently and

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Speaker 1: maybe you ghosted, maybe you didn't. I don't know. His

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Speaker 1: name is Ben, and I'm wondering if you would be

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Speaker 1: willing to talk about your date with Ben on the air.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, doesn't that mean he's listening in right now

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Speaker 4: or something?

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Speaker 2: Yes, it actually does. Ben. Are you there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Hello? Everyone?

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Speaker 3: Ye?

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Speaker 2: No, sorry, Samantha. Can we talk about it? He really

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Speaker 2: liked you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He said it was really relaxed, very natural. He said

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Speaker 2: it went longer than it maybe should have. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I would agree with that, like it's kurty out,

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Speaker 4: really normal. We we're having fun and I don't know,

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Speaker 4: but then Ben just started to make me feel a

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Speaker 4: little bit uneasy.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 4: He just like he could not sit still, like constantly

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Speaker 4: changing his posture, like sitting up straight, turning around, watching,

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Speaker 4: rolling his shoulders, stretching his neck. It was as if

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Speaker 4: I was on a date with like a wiggleworm. I

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Speaker 4: don't know. But then at one point mid story, he

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Speaker 4: stood up next to the table and said, sorry, sometimes

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Speaker 4: my alignment just gets off if I sit too long,

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Speaker 4: and then he started conversing with me, just like standing up.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. It was just like I laughed it

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Speaker 4: off at first, and because I don't know what else

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Speaker 4: to do, but I felt like I was on a

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Speaker 4: date with someone that was just always halfway through a

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Speaker 4: physical therapy appointment and it was really distracting.

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Speaker 2: So is that why you ghosted?

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Speaker 4: No, there's more, like I justified.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 4: So later in the date, like he said he was

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Speaker 4: looking he was alone, and I live alone too, so

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Speaker 4: we were just talking about that. But then he casually

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Speaker 4: admitted that he talks to himself out loud at home.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know, like sometimes you think thoughts out loud, whatever,

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Speaker 4: but he he's like full on admitted that he doesn't

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Speaker 4: just think out loud, he has like full conversations, different voices,

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Speaker 4: and so again I just like locked it off, thought

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Speaker 4: it was a joke. But then he kept going and

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Speaker 4: said that he sometimes forgets that other people are around

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Speaker 4: and will do it in public too. Immediately after saying that,

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Speaker 4: he looked down at his drink and muttered, no, it's

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Speaker 4: not what I meant under his breath and looked back

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Speaker 4: up at me and like didn't even acknowledge that I

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Speaker 4: had happened, and just like continued talking. So it just

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Speaker 4: it was weird, okay, And I don't.

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Speaker 2: Know, Let's go to Ben. Ben. This is a lot

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Speaker 2: to unpack. Do you talk to yourself regularly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean I don't.

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Speaker 3: I think yes, I think it's just processing. I know

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Speaker 3: that a lot of creative people do it. It's not

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Speaker 3: like a weird thing. I know that these jobs did

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Speaker 3: it to himself constantly, like he'd be in his office

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Speaker 3: talking to himself all the time. People say, Einstein talk

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Speaker 3: to himself. So I just think that's like a creative

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Speaker 3: thing that just like you say something out loud and

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Speaker 3: then it helps you like process it, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean. Yeah, but it's just, you know, if talking

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Speaker 3: to yourself is a deal breaker, like what.

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Speaker 2: Well is that? And the wiggleworm thing?

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Speaker 3: That's a good health You need to be like aware

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Speaker 3: of the everyday experience of living in your body, so

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Speaker 3: you're not supposed to be sitting down for long periods

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Speaker 3: of time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's tough when you don't know somebody and

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Speaker 1: you're trying to make an impression.

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Speaker 2: Samantha, did this make you uncomfortable?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was just like it was odd. I get

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Speaker 4: we need to be bodywear, and I appreciate that, and

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Speaker 4: I also feel the same like we need to be bodywear,

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Speaker 4: but it was too much for a first date. Everyone

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Speaker 4: has quirks, right, quarks need context. I just like didn't

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Speaker 4: know in that moment if you were talking to me

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Speaker 4: or you're talking to you and it just happened and

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Speaker 4: it was weird and you didn't acknowledge it, and I

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Speaker 4: don't know, like I want to be talking to you

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Speaker 4: and not some other version of you that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you guys, I'm gonna call it. Hang hang on

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Speaker 2: one second. That's not going anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Uh, you gotta hide the crazy. I mean, I say

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Speaker 1: it all. It just parcel it out. We're all a

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Speaker 1: little bit quirky, but you can't can't hit them with

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Speaker 1: two big ones that quickly simple second date up.

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Speaker 4: They