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Speaker 1: No, just turn it in thirty one January.

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Speaker 2: It's what blanket or rest is a good picked thirty

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Speaker 4: One of the tackle positions you just have to, all right.

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Speaker 1: For a couple of years easily.

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Speaker 4: That sounds I know, that sounds stupid.

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Speaker 3: Offensive lineman running a forty There is no better indicator

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Speaker 3: for success. An offensive lineman who run below a foy

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Speaker 4: Uh, they tend and they tend to draft those guys.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, that's something to consider.

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Speaker 2: So so for me, if there's a BP a view

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Speaker 2: maybe even edge rush. Certainly I'm looking inside linebackers. If

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Speaker 2: that spot. If you love c. J. Allen, then just

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Speaker 2: back to the same conversation about Jaddy barn It's like, boy,

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Speaker 2: you know you add enough talent you keep you keep

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Speaker 2: adding talent.

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Speaker 1: To your roster.

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Speaker 3: Yes, if you add good if you keep adding good players,

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Speaker 4: I feel like I was quoting you, but I was

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Speaker 4: butchering in a little bit. You know, you helped me.

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Speaker 4: You were about to attribute it to Winston Churchill in

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Speaker 2: It's weird, but that's the thing. Like, and then now

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Speaker 2: I haven't had a chance to ask you this. And

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Speaker 4: I want to get to those.

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Speaker 2: But I was having a conversation that's better one with Nick.

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Speaker 2: But but I was having a conversation this way. Maybe

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So there was a reported rumor out the rumor this

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Speaker 4: That's usually the case. So there's that fact.

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Speaker 2: plus you had the Jaquon McMillan thing where he's a

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Speaker 1: On a really affordable tender.

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Speaker 4: How does that all sort out for you?

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Speaker 3: You put ja Quon McMillan on a second round tender, Okay,

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Speaker 3: you hope somebody takes him and you get the second

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Speaker 3: Riley Moss.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you're not riding A J.

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Speaker 3: That trade was ludicrous too. It's like something about second

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Speaker 4: First of all, A J.

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Speaker 3: Brown's not coming here. I'm like, I don't want to,

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Speaker 3: the rest of it goes, they're not trading Riley Moss.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know where that came from.

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Speaker 3: I get the idea, but no, in worst case scenario

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Speaker 2: I would not I mean, that's delayed gratification on a compensatory.

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Speaker 3: Sure, but I mean anyway, any which way you slice it,

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Speaker 3: we got plenty of draft picks for that. We got

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Speaker 2: Anyway, thought it'd be nice to be able to stack

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Speaker 3: As we talked about what I'm getting stacking picks, you know,

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Speaker 3: go from there. I I'm not you know, I'm not

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Speaker 4: It's funny it with all the penalty flags and everything else.

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Speaker 3: But you go back and you watch the tape and

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Speaker 3: he said, I mean, Riley Moss got flags for playing

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Speaker 2: No no denying that fact. And by the way, this

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Speaker 2: This is more about your first round pick. That that's

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Speaker 2: it is more about the other outlying factors when you're

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Speaker 3: Then you let him walk at that point and put

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Speaker 4: You know, okay that at that point.

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Speaker 3: If you're not gonna pay him, the reality is you

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Speaker 3: you probably can get away with an extension, you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is what we can offer, you know

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Speaker 2: Well I'm on board with it as long as you

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Speaker 3: I mean, they talked about putting Baron out there on

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Speaker 4: Well in Abrams drain, I think he is? He going

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Speaker 2: Oh sure, And he's a guy that you'd probably just

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Speaker 1: Then shoot up. But I'm with you on that.

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Speaker 4: I guess it's just sort of the equation you have

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Speaker 2: And when we get a chance to talk to George

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: He said Keu Robinson's probably the highest upside of the

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Speaker 3: Little I I agreed with that. And again, you look

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Speaker 4: This kind of stuff. But well, Q gets out there

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Speaker 1: A couple of text year.

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Speaker 2: Do you foresee any running backs becoming a cap casualty

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Speaker 4: That more be just his role relative to all he's

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know what it is, Uh not necessarily

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Speaker 4: I mean we've talked about the big names.

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Speaker 3: As far as that goes, I don't think I anybody

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Speaker 4: At the moment.

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Speaker 4: Naie Harris. I think maybe, well, he's a free agent.

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Speaker 1: He was just one year deal.

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Speaker 3: out or whatever, and you know he's looking better and better.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, I like Najie Harris.

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Speaker 2: You know, up until this last year his biggest ability

446
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Speaker 2: was availability, and then of course it wasn't.

447
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Speaker 4: But I like Naji Hears. I don't like him for

448
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Speaker 4: what you're looking for.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if the first down back, you know, if

450
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Speaker 3: you're just using him for the first down Dave Montgomery.

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Speaker 2: Role, Yeah, sure, I guess it would be really affordable.

452
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Speaker 2: He can catch, he'd be coming in unapproved deal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but another JK deal, you know, I think that's

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Speaker 3: more of a fallback than it is a.

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Speaker 4: A primary option.

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Speaker 2: Almost certainly, right, I mean that's you're not going swinging

457
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Speaker 2: day one and say.

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Speaker 4: Hey, look we got notch, you know, and nobody's doing that.

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Speaker 1: I think I know the answer this one.

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Speaker 2: If we put a second round tender on j Max

461
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Speaker 2: is the second rounder for this draft.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's what That's what I thought.

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Speaker 2: What about Jakewon McMillan, who makes plays? I would like

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Speaker 2: to see him on the field a little more. No,

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Speaker 2: I mean, Jake Won's a starter. I mean he's just

466
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Speaker 2: starting nickel. So that Jake One's a restricted free agent.

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Speaker 2: So there's a scenario in which he's not back. I'd

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Speaker 2: say he's more likely back than not. It would have

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Speaker 2: to be somebody coming in and given the tender. Really

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Speaker 2: at this point, because.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna afford you.

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Speaker 4: In fact, you might even consider.

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Speaker 1: Giving him an extension.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. No, you're you're putting an origin. You're not extending.

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Speaker 3: You put you put an original you know, either put

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Speaker 3: an original round tender or a second round ten.

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Speaker 2: Well, you wouldn't put original because he's an undrafted guy.

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Speaker 2: But I mean original round is a right to match.

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Speaker 2: That's what that means. The original round tend is not

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Speaker 2: actually an original route. It's it's called it's just a

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Speaker 2: right to match. You put the second round tender.

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Speaker 3: If you're trying to bait, if you think somebody will

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Speaker 3: pay that second rounder, you put the.

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Speaker 4: Second round tender on there and see if you can

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Speaker 4: get that time.

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Speaker 1: I mean it would be starting caliber.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's I.

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Speaker 3: Mean in corners they said, god man, what are you

489
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Speaker 3: going to get for a second rounder?

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Speaker 4: That's this better than Jake ubc.

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Speaker 3: So you know, the way that I look at that

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Speaker 3: is you're trying to bait somebody to give you a

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Speaker 3: second round.

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Speaker 4: Or for him is essentially what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, alright, five six, six.

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Speaker 4: Nine zeros or Kawe Commas Spirit Health text Line.

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Speaker 2: We're live from Indianapolis for the twenty twenty six NFL Combine.

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Speaker 2: As we mentioned, we're gonna be on radio Row starting

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Speaker 2: tomorrow all the way through Thursday. We're gonna have George Peyton,

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Speaker 2: general manager of the Broncos, joining us for an exclusive

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Speaker 2: interview on KOA tomorrow, looking forward to that. That'll be

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Speaker 2: in the three o'clock hour. We'll be right back on

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Speaker 2: a fifty AM and ninety four one FM. As I mentioned,

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Speaker 2: we'll be on radio roaches starting tomorrow. George Peyton is

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Speaker 2: going to join us for an exclusive interview. We will

506
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Speaker 2: bring you reaction to Sean Payton and George. We're speaking

507
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Speaker 2: at three o'clock Mountain, five o'clock Eastern our time out

508
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Speaker 2: here in Indianapolis. But of course we're gonna have Rockies

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Speaker 2: Baseball all the way through, probably into the three o'clock hour,

510
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Speaker 2: so we'll bring you the comments everything like that.

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Speaker 1: Right after.

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Speaker 4: We'll bring our reaction to that.

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Speaker 2: Moments ago, Mike Cliss tweeting out, I want to get

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Speaker 2: your reaction to this, because this isn't an interesting name

515
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Speaker 2: to pop up, he says. Per Source, Broncos visited last

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Speaker 2: week with veteran coach Mike Zimmer about a senior coaching position.

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Speaker 2: Nothing imminent, but there is mutual interest. Zimmer has been

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Speaker 2: a football coach since nineteen seventy nine and started his

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Speaker 2: NFL career in nineteen ninety four.

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Speaker 4: Well Ben Mike Zimmer as a possible senior assistant.

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Speaker 3: What do you think, man, well, you're adding experience to

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Speaker 3: the room.

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Speaker 1: No, no doubt about that.

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Speaker 4: It turned seventy this summer. I don't know, man, I mean,

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Speaker 4: Mike is.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's been out obviously in Colorado quite a bit.

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Speaker 3: He was here to see you, He was you in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty three. Obviously, you know, wanted to get back

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Speaker 3: out here. He did the Dallas defensive coordinator thing in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. I he's just I don't know. I

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Speaker 3: don't will say the game has passed somebody by, but

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Speaker 3: he's not been the same since his son passed away.

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Speaker 4: And I don't really know how to how to rectify that.

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Speaker 3: He's head coaching tenure ended horribly in Minnesota and it

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Speaker 3: just hasn't been the same for him since.

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Speaker 1: Has Maybe you could correct me on this.

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Speaker 2: It seems like the coaching assistant thing is a lot

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Speaker 2: more in vogue than it used to be. Like it

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Speaker 2: seems like like teams, like even this last year with

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Speaker 2: the Broncos, they're bringing Pete Carmichael, they bringing you know,

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Speaker 2: guys on the offensive side of the.

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Speaker 4: Best way to get your buddies a job.

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Speaker 1: That's what it feels like.

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Speaker 2: But is it just me or does it feel like

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Speaker 2: something that has become a lot more commonplace, a lot

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Speaker 2: more I don't say accepted, but just something that we're seeing.

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Speaker 4: A lot more of. Yeah, I mean yeah, and uh,

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Speaker 4: he feels prevalent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. It also didn't get announced as much as it

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Speaker 3: does now. That's a hyper consumptive era now, I think.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's really just the way to get your

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Speaker 4: buddies a job.

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Speaker 3: In a lot of cases, those guys come in, do

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Speaker 3: a little bit of work here there, most of it's

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Speaker 3: remote and and you know, you go from there. I

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Speaker 3: don't know what Mike Zimmer brings to the table. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you know, Vance Joseph's a perfectly fine defensive coordinator, and

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Speaker 3: I say perfectly fine.

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Speaker 4: He's a great defensive rate.

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Speaker 3: You know what's Mike Zimmer is known for a very

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Speaker 3: specific scheme, and it's it's it's double mug in the

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Speaker 3: A and for those of you who don't know, it's

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Speaker 3: it's where Mike Zimmer runs a four man front which

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Speaker 3: we don't run, uh, and then brings two linebrackers down

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Speaker 3: on either side of the center UH to try to

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Speaker 3: simulate a six man rush.

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Speaker 4: And then one or both of them end up bailing out,

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Speaker 4: you know, into.

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Speaker 3: Coverage, and that's kind of been his thing, and uh,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to say that that's you know, a relic,

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Speaker 3: but much like the Tampa too, it's sort of been

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Speaker 3: figured out, uh, in terms of how you how you

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Speaker 3: beat that.

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Speaker 2: But of course you're not bringing him in for his scheme.

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Speaker 2: You're bringing him in, well, you're bringing it.

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Speaker 3: All that and as a consultant and all that kind

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Speaker 3: of stuff, and you know, maybe he looks over the

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Speaker 3: operation and tries to figure out some things that you know,

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Speaker 3: for him that that work and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 4: You know, Zimmer.

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Speaker 3: Endeared himself to a lot of the NFL community when

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Speaker 3: he publicly came out and castigated Bobby Petrino for the

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Speaker 3: way that he exited Atlanta.

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Speaker 4: As Zimmer was obviously on his staff.

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Speaker 3: There at Atlanta was part of the people that got

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Speaker 3: kind of sort of jilted there when Bobby Patrino left

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Speaker 3: for Arkansas.

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Speaker 4: So, you know, I respect what Zim has done.

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Speaker 3: He's just not been the same guy since his son

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Speaker 3: passed and Adam passed away back and was twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 4: I think it was so yeah, I guess.

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Speaker 2: The only other thought I have on Mike Zimmer, would

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Speaker 2: it possibly be with the intention of if Vja gets

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Speaker 2: a coaching job next year, then that's seventy years old though, Well,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're right, I'm just trying to cover the

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Speaker 2: three sixty of this thing.

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Speaker 4: Maybe, and I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, maybe that's somebody that Sean's putting his next in

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Speaker 3: line with, you know, a backup plan the way Jim

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Speaker 3: Leonard was, you know, when he got here. I would

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Speaker 3: think that they would want somebody younger, you know, for that.

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Speaker 3: But you know, maybe Sean feels comfortable with that and

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Speaker 3: that's the direction he wants to go. Maybe, maybe, possibly

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Speaker 3: that's a part of it. Yeah, I don't know, I

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Speaker 3: truly don't.

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Speaker 2: We'll get more information on this other story that I

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Speaker 2: want to get to for me a traffic in a

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Speaker 2: few minutes tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I imagine there will.

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Speaker 4: Be some buzz around Radio row about it.

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Speaker 2: But the NFL Competition Committee, which of course Sewan is

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Speaker 2: part of, now is discussing the possibility of authorizing replay

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Speaker 2: officials to throw flags for specific penalties. So as Troy

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Speaker 2: Vincent put it, he says, you don't want to just

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Speaker 2: be expanding Pandora's box, But we believe that things like

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Speaker 2: Non Football Act, you can really really restrict that what

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Speaker 2: it is. It's something that we believe that potentially there's

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Speaker 2: a little bit of tweaking with the language and that

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Speaker 2: may be the first step. So the examples they put

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Speaker 2: out here.

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Speaker 1: One occurred in the fourth quarter of the.

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl with the Patriots and Stefan Diggs where Diggs

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Speaker 2: and Josh Joe grab each other's face masks on the sideline.

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Speaker 2: Job then delivered a left handed punch to Digg's helmet.

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Speaker 2: There is no penalty flag thrown the play, but if

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Speaker 2: the NFL enacts with the Competition Committee is discussing the

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Speaker 2: on site replay official would then have the ability to

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Speaker 2: penalize and possibly eject Job for the punch.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because again, everybody on the.

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Speaker 1: Couch saw it right.

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Speaker 3: I think when it comes to these things, the first

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Speaker 3: thing to filter it through is what is the intent?

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Speaker 4: You know, is the intent to start get stuff right? Okay?

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Speaker 3: If the intent is just to you know, reficiating into

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Speaker 3: a game where fans want anything but siating, then I think,

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Speaker 3: you know, we'll see. I Sean Payton is going to

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Speaker 3: be one of those guys who wants He's going to

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Speaker 3: be on the side of I want you to get

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Speaker 3: this right, so you know, you go from there. I

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Speaker 3: just think that with regards to officiating, we need to

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Speaker 3: find ways to streamline the process. And if this is

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Speaker 3: going to help streamline the.

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Speaker 4: Process, okay.

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Speaker 3: If it's not, and it's going to create a larger

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Speaker 3: footprint of officiating on football games, I'm good.

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Speaker 1: I'm all for the streamlining. I think almost all the

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Speaker 1: NFL fans are.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I've liked the replay officials having a

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Speaker 2: heavier hand and having the well, you know, hey, they're

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Speaker 2: throwing the flag. Oh no, they don't even need to

651
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Speaker 2: throw a flag because Instant Replay already jumped in and

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Speaker 2: said this needs to be overturned or this needs to

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Speaker 2: be corrected.

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Speaker 1: And I like that.

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Speaker 4: I like that that is streamlining and versus all right,

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Speaker 4: now we got to go.

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Speaker 2: Under the hood and then we got ahead discuss it,

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Speaker 2: and you know, because they threw the flag, it's like, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: we can all tell this was the right call and

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Speaker 2: we're going to change it on the field and not

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Speaker 2: even make the coaches challenge this play.

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Speaker 4: I liked when the Alliance of American Football did this

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Speaker 4: guy judge that that was phenomenal, transparent, It was great,

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Speaker 4: it was instant, the communication was there.

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Speaker 3: I thought that was great, and I don't know why

666
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Speaker 3: the NFL has not adopted that, especially in the era

667
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Speaker 3: of sports wagering where millions of dollars can change hands

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Speaker 3: on a single call or missed call.

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Speaker 1: So let me make sure.

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Speaker 2: Are you in favor of the idea of like, let's

671
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Speaker 2: just take that Super Bowl moment where you have Digs

672
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Speaker 2: and Joe ultimately on that moment, I don't care.

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Speaker 3: I think it is important to get the calls right

674
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Speaker 3: because again, you've partnered with sports books, and you can't be.

675
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Speaker 4: Seen to have a product that.

676
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Speaker 3: Can be seen as manipulated or crooked or whatever, rigged

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Speaker 3: or whatever else by not having it properly officiated.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's exactly right. And we've talked about.

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Speaker 2: Some of the inconsistencies and the subjective nature of the

680
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Speaker 2: calls for years, but now it feels like it continues

681
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 2: to be under a microscope, especially when you factor in

682
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Speaker 2: the amount of money changing hands. And the last thing

683
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Speaker 2: you want is some of these big games. Now, that

684
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Speaker 2: play itself was an after the whistle play, and so

685
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Speaker 2: it didn't impact anything in the moment. But if this

686
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Speaker 2: was ended up being a close game, and say maybe

687
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Speaker 2: Job had a game ceiling picked six or something, and

688
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Speaker 2: you shouldn't even been on the field, then those kind

689
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Speaker 2: of conversations probably come more into focus.

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Speaker 3: For the longest time, the NFL loved the idea of

691
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Speaker 3: the gray area. Of course, it is because it kept

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Speaker 3: you in the a block on Sports Center when people

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Speaker 3: got we're you know, we're sitting there, or the talk

694
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Speaker 3: shows going over you know those calls. But the problem

695
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Speaker 3: is you've gotten in bed with the books now and

696
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 3: that has to change. You can't have the gray area.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine the replacement ref call you know they're

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Speaker 3: talking about on the touchdown no touchdown replacement ref call

699
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Speaker 3: in the era of sports wagering. Can you imagine the

700
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Speaker 3: uproar you thought the uper roar was bad, so bad

701
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Speaker 3: they had to get the regular officials back the next week.

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Speaker 4: Imagine what happened if a billion dollars changed hands because

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Speaker 4: of that one.

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Speaker 2: Hundred percent right once again, we'll be back with you

705
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Speaker 2: tomorrow following the Rockies game, and we'll become coming on

706
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Speaker 2: with George Payton, which would be a lot of fun.

707
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Speaker 2: So we're gonna have that exclusive interview right here on

708
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Speaker 2: KAWA as we typically do out here at the NFL combine,

709
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Speaker 2: getting a chance to chat with the Broncos GM them,

710
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Speaker 2: and we'll bring you some thoughts from Sean Payton's press conference.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure we have a bevy.

712
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Speaker 2: We have a bunch of guests that we're gonna be

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Speaker 2: talking to over the course of the week. We are

714
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Speaker 2: still finalizing some schedules. But there's some pretty big names

715
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Speaker 2: on there.

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Speaker 1: Aren't there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I'm saying that in a way to

718
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Speaker 2: remind you that you are assisting with that process. Ben

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Speaker 2: bearheading really yeah, really, there's a there's gonna be some

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Speaker 2: fun names.

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Speaker 4: I think people will be excited.

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Speaker 2: So I guess we're gonna it's one of the first

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Speaker 2: years I've involved you in the technical aspects of doing

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Speaker 2: this show. Hey, listen, the first year and how many

725
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Speaker 2: years we've been coming out here. I usually handle all

726
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Speaker 2: this stuff, but I needed your expertise this year, and

727
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Speaker 2: I listen, right, let's say I will say I will

728
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Speaker 2: say this because people will behind the scenes know, but

729
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 2: of course people listening to the radio show do not know.

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Speaker 2: It was quite the process to get on the air

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Speaker 2: today for us, as there were there were certain obstacles

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Speaker 2: that America that took almost three hours to complete, and

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Speaker 2: we're quite literally completed as the last minute as we

734
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Speaker 2: were running our news and traffic at the top of

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Speaker 2: the hours.

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Speaker 1: So we were on.

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Speaker 2: We did the show, and obviously thanks to a lot

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Speaker 2: of people behind the scenes, including Benjamin, for helping us

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Speaker 2: through that process.

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Speaker 1: And you know, that's it, that's it, that's all I

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Speaker 1: give you.

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Speaker 4: I do it. You know, I do it all for

743
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Speaker 4: the red, white, and blue. People will know that for

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Speaker 4: years that you're about that.

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Speaker 1: Looking at you keep the straight face.

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Speaker 2: So tomorrow, yeah, you got coaches and GM's talk, and

747
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Speaker 2: then it will be Wednesday morning very early that the

748
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Speaker 2: prospects will start. And then that'll be the inside linebackers,

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Speaker 2: which I of course I'm very excited to talk and

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Speaker 2: hear from them. Wednesday morning. I'll be bringing you all

751
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Speaker 2: sorts of updates on that. Ben we'll be sleeping, but

752
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Speaker 2: I will be I'll be with that.

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Speaker 4: I will I will be asleep.

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Speaker 3: Now you're gonna be You're gonna be over there at

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Speaker 3: what eight eight am, eight am Eastern.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm not even gonna be over there at eight

757
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Speaker 4: am Mountain.

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Speaker 1: I know this.

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Speaker 4: I know this just just so.

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Speaker 3: But as your spiritual just on the xe CA, this

761
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Speaker 3: is just so the bar is set appropriately here bar

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Speaker 3: once again, I've been doing this with you for years.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I'm just setting the expectation for

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Speaker 3: the fans.

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Speaker 4: Fair enough, fair enough.

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Speaker 2: So let me ask you this, because one of the

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Speaker 2: reasons why you don't end up going out there first

768
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Speaker 2: thing in the morning like I do, is because you spend.

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Speaker 4: Several evenings usually enjoying the company of people out.

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Speaker 3: Late that women of the nights, that what you know,

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Speaker 3: the red light to know, I'm down there talking to coaches,

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Speaker 3: gms and you know, and all that kind of front

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Speaker 3: office people and you know, things like that.

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Speaker 2: What do you think this this combine like? Because every

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Speaker 2: single one has a little bit of a uniqueness to it,

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Speaker 2: and there's a certain buzz about certain position groups or

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Free agents. What what do you think this year is going.

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Speaker 4: To be kind of the buzz is going to be

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Speaker 4: about in general? You know, I think there's like anything.

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Speaker 4: The quarterbacks will get something. Even though this is a.

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Speaker 3: Weird quarterback class, I do think that this receiver class

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Speaker 3: is pretty interesting I think there's a lot of guys

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Speaker 3: in you to complay at the NFL level, even if

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Speaker 3: there's not a takeover the game guy.

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Speaker 4: Necessarily right there, you know, a headliner name, and I

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Speaker 4: think that's a lot. I think it's gonna be an

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Speaker 4: interesting draft because there's not a headliner name.

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Speaker 3: You know, most of the guys that the blue ship

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Speaker 3: prospect guys are also guys that play positions that'll get

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Speaker 3: that kind of recognition, and so I think I think

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Speaker 3: that I think the big thing is gonna be Kyler

793
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Speaker 3: Murray thing. Where's Kyler Murray gonna wind up? You know,

794
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Speaker 3: the New York Jets are gonna gonna have a.

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Speaker 4: Hand in that.

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Speaker 3: We'll see where he ultimately ends up. But I think

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Speaker 3: that's gonna be the big big thing.

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Speaker 2: The next couple of days, it's gotta be the quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: and i'd say probably the first overall pick. There will

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Speaker 2: be some discussion even though it's gonna be Fernando Mendoza.

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Speaker 2: I think the buzz is gonna be about what you

802
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Speaker 2: think of him like because already we came into this

803
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Speaker 2: week you mentioned there might be some people out there

804
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Speaker 2: that that thing Ty Simpson might have longer term prospects,

805
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Speaker 2: higher end prospects than Fernando Mendoza. People are calling him

806
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Speaker 2: kind of a poor man's Jared or maybe a higher

807
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: end Jared Goff. I mean, there's some range with Vermanda Mendoza. Like,

808
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Speaker 2: I'm very interested this week to get the sense from

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Speaker 2: people that we talk to about.

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Speaker 1: What they think he is.

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Speaker 2: Because of college, I mean, he's a Heisman winner, won

812
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Speaker 2: a national championship when a defeated for sixteen and oh teen.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot to be said about the way he performed.

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Speaker 2: Yet when it comes to the pro level, there are

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Speaker 2: a lot of, I guess, disparaging points of view on him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say that diet Kirk Cousins is usually

817
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Speaker 3: what I might hear when you're talking about Mendoza. There

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Speaker 3: are some people that like him. I think most people

819
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Speaker 3: think that, you know, the ceiling is.

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Speaker 4: Not all that high.

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Speaker 3: You know, in most drafts, he would not be the

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Speaker 3: number one overall. Pick that kind of stuff. You're gonna

823
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Speaker 3: hear a various media narrative spun about that, But at

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Speaker 3: the end of the day, pay attention to what people

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Speaker 3: are saying and their critiques, you know, and I think

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Speaker 3: you'll you'll kind of get a sense of that. I

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Speaker 3: don't want to color anybody else's opinion, but I say

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Speaker 3: the people I talk to are not necessarily as high

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Speaker 3: on Mendoza's and that's why I keep saying things like

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Speaker 3: I'd trade out to one, you know, I'd let some

831
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Speaker 3: other sucker come up and you know, and do all

832
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Speaker 3: this stuffs.

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Speaker 4: Not that I don't like the kid. I mean, he's

834
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Speaker 4: great in interviews and.

835
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Speaker 3: All that kind of stuff, But I just think he's

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Speaker 3: I think he's limited in terms of what it is

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Speaker 3: that he's gonna be.

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Speaker 2: That'll do it for Ben and I will be back

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Speaker 2: tomorrow following the Rockies Day game again somewhere in the

840
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Speaker 2: three o'clock hour with George Payton.

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Speaker 4: That's gonna be a lot of fun. But stick around

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Speaker 4: BCT next