1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: It's night Side with Dan Ray. 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 2: I'm telling you Boston's news radio. 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: Well, good evening, everyone, and welcome on in to a 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: Wednesday night edition of Nightside. The cold continues, and the 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: weather folks are now predicting that we very well may 6 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: have another bout with Old Winter this Saturday, d or Sunday, 7 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: So buckle up, it could get interesting. My name is 8 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: Dan Ray. The show's going to be interesting tonight, that's 9 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: for sure. I promise we have some interesting guests in 10 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: the first hour, and then some interesting conversational guests at 11 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: nine and ten, and not exactly sure what we'll do 12 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: at eleven. So they said, my name is Dan Ray. 13 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: Host of Nightside Rob Brooks back in the control room. 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: He is all set to get things going, and I 15 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: hope all of you are as well. So without any 16 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: further ado, let me enter. I'm too low, okay uh, 17 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: And if I've mispronounced your name, I apologize. Give it 18 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: to me correctly so I don't repeat the mistake. 19 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: You did a good job, totally, okay. 20 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: Lou Okay, okay, Well that's I'm happy about that. So 21 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: you are the lead study author, author, and a PhD 22 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: candidate in transportation engineering, and U Mass Boston, U mass Immerst. 23 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: Excuse me, and you you are studying. I'm a graduate 24 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: of you, Mass Boston, and I have an honorary doctoral 25 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: degree from you, Mass Boston. That's why I try to 26 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: slip you Mass Boston into every conversation that it was 27 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: simply out of force of habit. Force of habit. So 28 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: you did a story about bus stop typeology, which reveals 29 00:01:53,640 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: crash risk environments. I want you to know that I 30 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: read every sentence and every graph amazing in that twenty 31 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: six page report. And if you believe that I have 32 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 1: a bridge to you that i'd like to sell, it's 33 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: located in Brooklyn. Actually I looked at it and there 34 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: are very few things that I don't absorb, but this 35 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: was one I did. So tell us about what is typology. 36 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: I've never seen that word or turned before, but I 37 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: can understand. I think the context. Let's just talk in 38 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: language that everyone's going to be able to understand. What 39 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: are you folks studying? It says risk factors in pedestrian 40 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: vehicle crashes. But I think there's a focus on buses 41 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: here in this study. 42 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 3: Correct, Yes, So I'll start with your first question of 43 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 3: typologiest typologies are just a way to group. It's sort 44 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 3: of a sense fear academic terms really just for grouping. 45 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 3: So we have all of these all of Massachusetts, and 46 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 3: we're trying to say are some similar and some different? 47 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 3: What are the similarities and differences among them? And so 48 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 3: typologies is that process of grouping the ones that are 49 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: similar into a bucket and then another group in. So 50 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 3: you can consider it just just a group in. 51 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: I absolutely understand that bus stops on side streets, on 52 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: main streets, bus stops that are near school, all sorts 53 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: of variations and permutations I suspect could be fascinate there. Okay, 54 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: we're good so far. So what did you find in 55 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: this study? And by the way, how long did this 56 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: study take? 57 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 3: If I could ask, it took about I would say 58 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 3: six months, even though that gathering of the data was 59 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: sort of the more that took a longer time because 60 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: we started by gathering data around every single bosstop. How 61 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 3: why are the sidewalk? How wide are the road? Is 62 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 3: there a median? What type of is it a Is 63 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 3: there a regular signal at this buss stop or is 64 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 3: it UH an RRFB or different kind of signal? Is 65 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 3: it a shelter is there lighting? What is the population 66 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 3: demographic of this area? How many grocery stores are near 67 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 3: this buss stop? And so that data gathering did take 68 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: a long time, but once we got those, we got 69 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 3: about three hundred factors individual characteristics of each buss stop. 70 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 3: And then I would say that's where the analysis started. 71 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: Is that has How many did you literally try to 72 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: determine the characteristics of each and every bus stop in 73 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: all of Massachusetts? 74 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: Correct? Some of them, we didn't. We didn't go to 75 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 3: every single bus stop, but we used other DA sources 76 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 3: that have information about bus stops. 77 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: So here's a really interesting question. How many bus stops 78 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: I assume there are both public bus stops and private 79 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: bus stops, school bus stops or city bus stops. How 80 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: many bus stops did you gather some characteristics on to 81 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: create this this this wealth of information. 82 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 3: We gathered information from about seventeen transit bus stops, so 83 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 3: bus stops that are served by a transit agency. 84 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: I lost you there just for a couple of seconds. 85 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: I don't know why. I think you said seventeen bus 86 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: stops O correct, and you did this over six months? 87 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: How many? I'm just I asked questions. We don't script 88 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: questions here. How many how many people were involved in 89 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: this stuff. 90 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 3: We have a lot of people working together. We have 91 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 3: a lot of undergrad undergraduates research assistants that are involved. 92 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 3: I'll say all together we are about ten and this 93 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 3: study is just a part of a wider study, and 94 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 3: so different individuals are working on different pieces of the study. 95 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,119 Speaker 3: But for yeah, so okay, well but we have about 96 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 3: ten undergraduate researchers that are that work. 97 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: I think we have we have. We have given folks 98 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: somewhat of a picture. So what you were looking to 99 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: do was to try to find out the top risk 100 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: factors for correct accidents in which pedestrians and when you 101 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: say pedestrians, I assume that's from the Latin meaning foot traffic. 102 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: We're not talking about bicycles, bicyclists. We're not, you know, 103 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: talking about unicyclists. We're not. We're talking about bus and buses. 104 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: So what were the top risk factors? We're going to 105 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: get to the payoff here because we only have a 106 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: couple of minutes left. What did this study, this comprehensive, 107 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: exhaustive study conclude. 108 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: What we saw some of that would say, two main 109 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 3: highlights we saw that there was an infrastructure safety paradox. 110 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 3: The areas that have safety infrastructure are not necessarily the safest, 111 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 3: and that was a counterintuitive finding. And then we also 112 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: found out that areas, and I think this one is 113 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 3: maybe more more intuitive, that areas that are more connected 114 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 3: have a high density of people, of traffic, of land 115 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 3: use activity also tend to be areas where we're seeing 116 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 3: those crashes. We saw that arterials, road types that are 117 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 3: classified as arterials are particularly in the high risk regions 118 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 3: or in the high risk category. 119 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: If I understand what you're saying is the more people 120 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: that you utilize and come in contact physical contact with 121 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: the bus stop location, it increases the number of accidents 122 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: that would occur. 123 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 3: The more people that are in an area I would 124 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 3: say slightly different, slightly monuments. So the more people that are, 125 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,559 Speaker 3: the more people that are in an area that has 126 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 3: other people. So where there's a vehicle, they're buses, there 127 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 3: are pedestrians, their bicyclists. Both areas which are high density 128 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 3: areas and have high activity right there are areas that 129 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 3: we are seeing there's just more potential for conflict. Okay, 130 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 3: so that's one if we were intuitive, if we were. 131 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: Reducing this to a mathematical formula on a blackboard, it 132 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: might be something to the effect of uh, pedestrians plus 133 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: active vity plush buses equals more accidents. 134 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 3: Something like that. 135 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: How much did you study caustic induct to get to 136 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: this conclusion? 137 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 3: Well, this, I would say that is only part of that, 138 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 3: so that I would say it's the more intuitive results. 139 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 3: A less intuitive result from the study is that areas 140 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 3: that have safety infrastructure. So over the last decade we 141 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 3: have focused a lot on safety infrastructure as a solution 142 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 3: to the risk issues. And one of the major findings 143 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: from this is that the safety infrastructure alone is not enough. 144 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 3: So if you put a sidewalk, a crosswalk, you know, 145 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 3: a light, we usually we say, oh, but we checked 146 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 3: the box to say that this area is safe. We 147 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 3: have put all of this infrastructure in to improve safety. 148 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 3: What this study is showing is that that is not enough. 149 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 3: Areas that have crosswalks, lighting and and all you know 150 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 3: sidewalks are not necessarily the areas that we're seen as safe. Okay, 151 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 3: so area, so we've seen at safer. Okay, go ahead. 152 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: So infrastructure times money does not equal safety. 153 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,719 Speaker 3: Correct, Okay, So give me this think is what we 154 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 3: focused on in the last decade. 155 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: Okay, so the bottom line then the bottom line of 156 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: the study, and I only have about thirty seconds left, 157 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: and I hate to do this year, but I think 158 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: people are going to watch. 159 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 3: Think. 160 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: Well, the way we've broken this down, what is the 161 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: the headline of the study? We know that. What does 162 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: the headline say we should stop building infrastructure, or we 163 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: should take down infrastructure, or we should just leave bus 164 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 1: stops bus stops alone, or is there is there some 165 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: other thing that we need to do to make bus 166 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 1: stops more safe. 167 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 3: Infrastructure alone doesn't solve the problem, and infrastructure, the type 168 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 3: of infrastructure needs to be directed. So that's where the 169 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 3: typology comes in, because the typology shows us that a 170 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 3: certain type of area may warrant one type of potential 171 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 3: kind of infrastructure reducing the road lane. So that's not 172 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 3: an infrastructure. Uh is another very very was a major 173 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 3: highlight of the study that says narrower roads have tendencies 174 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 3: to improve safety more than wider roads, right. 175 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: Because and that is that certainly is not that is 176 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: non intuitive. Tula, thank you so much. You've explained a 177 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: very complicated study, but a very comprehensive study. Uh so 178 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: even I can understand it, and I thank you for doing. 179 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 3: It very glad. Thank you. 180 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: Veryone want to get copies of the study? If if, if, 181 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: if they want to read the study in its entirety 182 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: as I did not do, can they they were website 183 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: they can find the study. 184 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 3: At Yes, there is a link on the UMAs website 185 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 3: that you can find the study or and their information. 186 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: Okay, I enjoyed our conversation very much, thank you very much, 187 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: very much. All Right, we get back. We're going to 188 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: talk about something that a little more or a little 189 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: less esoteric. Maybe. Scientists reveal a winter habit is killing 190 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: thousands of people each year that's burning wood to heat 191 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: their homes linked to premature debts. We will talk with 192 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: a gentleman U named Odwin Cash about that study. After 193 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: the break. 194 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 4: It's Night Side with. 195 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 2: Boston's News Radio. 196 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: Our next guest is Odwin Cash. Odwin welcome to Night's Side. 197 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 4: Hey, thanks for having me. 198 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: Dan Odwin is the CEO of GPS Air, a US 199 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: based company focused on improving indoor air quality. Sounds great, 200 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: but scientists apparently have found that a winter habit that 201 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: many of us have participated in burning wood to heat 202 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: our homes in the winter or to have a I 203 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: guess a fire in the fireplace maybe linked to around 204 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: eighty six hundred premature deaths each year in the US. 205 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: What's going on onwen, I have no idea why that out? 206 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: What's going on? 207 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 4: That's right. So when you're burning wood or other fossil fuels, 208 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 4: but let's focus on wood. For your wood burning file fire, 209 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 4: you're generating small particles. As the wood breaks down, you 210 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 4: have these very small particles. They're called PM two point 211 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 4: five are particular matter two point five microns are smaller, 212 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 4: so this is like one thirtieth the size of human hair, 213 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 4: so really small, microscopic and as we ingest those, whether 214 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 4: intentionally or unintentionally, those can get through our lungs and 215 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 4: get to part of our organ systems. And what it 216 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 4: really causes, particularly for people with asthma, is inflamed lung 217 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 4: tissue and then they have asthmatic events, especially for elderly 218 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 4: or young folks that can lead to premature death or 219 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 4: asthmatic symptoms. So that's what's going on, is we're actually 220 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 4: creating really small particles during the fire itself. 221 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: So what is the what are people to do who 222 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: have fireplaces and like to do They say, hey, that's 223 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: just part of life, you know, breathing anything has the 224 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: potential of harming you. Or are you advising that people 225 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: who have fire places inside their homes or maybe even 226 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: fire pits outside their homes not to use them. 227 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 4: Well, if you're outside, you're probably in pretty good shape 228 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 4: because there's plenty of fresh air around you. If you're inside, 229 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 4: our recommendation is to make sure your fireplace is working correctly. Obviously, 230 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 4: proper airflow up the chimney will move most of the 231 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 4: particles and gases up the chimney, and you're in pretty 232 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 4: good shape. If you have an open fire in your home, 233 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 4: like an open hearth, you should really consider whether you 234 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 4: need additional air filtration in your home. The most important thing, 235 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 4: whether you're burning a fire or not, is to make 236 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 4: sure your air filtration in your furnace or air conditioning 237 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 4: system in the summertime is really effective and being p 238 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 4: properly maintained because that system circulates the air, and if 239 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 4: they have a really good filter in your system, you're 240 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 4: going to remove a lot of these small particles just 241 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 4: through recirculated air. So our recommendation is to maintain really 242 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 4: good HVAC systems. Obviously, the fire looks good, but if 243 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 4: you have a if you have the ability to close 244 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 4: it off and use just the radiant heat, that's going 245 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 4: to be even better to reduce particle infiltration in your home. 246 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: So some people have fireplaces with glass enclosures. You can 247 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: close the glass. That's that's a good thing. 248 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 4: That's going to help you a fair bit more. Yeah, 249 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 4: that's right. If you have if you think about it, 250 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 4: if you can see any of the exhaust from the fire, 251 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 4: if you can smell that fire in your house, once 252 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 4: you're actually smelling, is some of the particles that are 253 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 4: coming out of that fireplace? You want to you want 254 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 4: if especially if you have susceptible populations, people that have 255 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 4: respiratory issues at all, you're going to want to reduce 256 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 4: that exposure. So if you can close off the fireplace 257 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 4: and use the radiant heat, benefit from it. And if 258 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 4: you can't do that, please make sure you're using adequate 259 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 4: air cleaning. Now, it's hard to ventilate your home in 260 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 4: the winter time because you don't want to let the 261 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 4: cold air in, and so air cleaners that have HEPA 262 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 4: rating or really good PM two point five removal efficiencies 263 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 4: are a good secondary choice. 264 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: So you're with a company called gps HE or a 265 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: US based company focused on improving indoor air quality. I 266 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: love that's right, fireplaces, and I love the idea of 267 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: a fire in the wintertime. You know, when you have 268 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: friends over, what products does your company provide that that 269 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: could help make an indoor fireplace that is not closed off, 270 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: you know, with glass a little safer. 271 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I love a fireplace as well. I have 272 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 4: one in my home. I live in Indiana and it 273 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 4: is probably below zero there tonight. I'm actually in Charlotte 274 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 4: at our headquarters where we're based. And one of the 275 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 4: things we do when we use our fireplace is we 276 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 4: actually have glass doors and you can't help it. Open 277 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 4: it once in a while obviously to replace replace or 278 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 4: a at a log to the fire. It's a great look. 279 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 4: But we run our air conditioning system. We circulate the 280 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 4: air in our home. We don't run the air conditioner, 281 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 4: but we run the furnace itself or heat pump continuously 282 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 4: while it's running. So we're getting recirculated air in our 283 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 4: home that's going through a NERV thirteen filter or better 284 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 4: so we're removing the particles in real time. My company 285 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 4: makes ionizers, which are technology that helps create small particles 286 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 4: to agglomerate or glob together, and that allows them to 287 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 4: be more effective at falling out of the air being 288 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 4: captured by filters. And so we use our ionizers inside 289 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 4: our air conditioning system plus constant airflow to remove small 290 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 4: particles from the air actively. Now, we also make air 291 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 4: quality monitoring and I use that in my home to 292 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 4: make sure that our PM two point five counts are 293 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 4: below what are really the EPA recommendations of nine micrograms. 294 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,239 Speaker 4: So strange number to talk about, but if you can 295 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 4: actually measure this this in your home with certain air 296 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 4: quality sensors and you can determine if you're above that limit. 297 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 4: We try to keep it below by rics circulating air 298 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 4: through good filtration and ionization. 299 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 5: Okay, So, what if folks are going to take our 300 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 5: conversation seriously, and I hope they are give us your 301 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 5: companies website so that they can explore a little bit 302 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 5: and maybe develop some more information, assuming that they fall 303 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 5: into the category of folks who have fireplaces, use the fireplaces, 304 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 5: and want to use them as safely as possible. 305 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, if you have a fireplace, for sure, you want 306 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 4: to look at gpsair dot com. Gpsair dot com. That's 307 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 4: our website. The EPA has a great web, great website 308 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 4: on this topic. You can google PM two point five 309 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 4: and the EPA's website shows up and talks to you 310 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 4: about the health risks associated with them. And I'll just 311 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 4: add it's a home issue for people with fireplaces and without. 312 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 4: You know, the Boston Children's Hospital does great work on 313 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 4: this topic for children in schools because you about twelve 314 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 4: percent of students under age of eighteen are susceptible to asthma, 315 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 4: and schools located in their major roadways have the exact same. 316 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 4: And so there's a lot of great information on how 317 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 4: you use filtration and air cleaning to reduce health risks 318 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 4: associated with PM two point five even outside your home. 319 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 4: And so I think this topic is really important. It 320 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 4: is a bit of a silent killer. You talk about fireplaces, 321 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 4: but across the United States about three hundred thousand premature 322 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 4: deaths are associated with PM two point five, not related 323 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 4: to woodburning at all, just regular PM two point five exposure. 324 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: Well, something something else that we need to worry about. 325 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: Odwinas gpsair dot com. Thanks so much for your time tonight. 326 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,479 Speaker 1: You explained the problem very well and the solution. Thank you. 327 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 4: Welcome Dan, thank you, thank you so much. Good Bye. 328 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: Eight thirty news is coming at you on the other side, 329 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: and we get back. Going to talk with old friend Bob. 330 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: I back about Nico Sports and a Patriots Super Bowl 331 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: football that you can purchase that will be part of 332 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: the purchase will support the New England Patriots Foundation. But 333 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: if you're a football fan and you want to gather 334 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: near the radio, get your pen and paper out and 335 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: take some notes. We'll be and you'll have something as 336 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: a souvenir of this season, which will be an heirloom 337 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: in your family. Back with Bob Ike. I'm back right 338 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: after the break. You're on the night side with Dan 339 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: Ray on BZ Boston's news radio. Well, I too think 340 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick should have made it into the NFL Hall 341 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: of Fame. I don't understand that, but President Trump has 342 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: weighed in on it. Talking about Bill Belichick. Of course, 343 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: you have to think about the six Super Bowl championships 344 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: that his team's, his Patriot teams competed in, and it 345 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: looks like this one more coming up and that's a 346 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: week from this Sunday out in Santa Clara with me. 347 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: Is old friend for many years, Bob. I back Bob 348 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: every year whenever the Patriots are in the Super Bowl 349 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: comes by. He's representing Nico Sports tonight And for every 350 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: New England Patriots AFC Championship Ball super Bowl football sold, 351 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: there will be a donation to the New England Patriots Foundation. 352 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,479 Speaker 1: So you have an opportunity, Bob. Why did you explain it? 353 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,959 Speaker 1: There's only going to be a limited edition five thousand 354 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: of these balls. What will the balls represent? And how 355 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: can be sure? How can we be sure it will 356 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 1: celebrate a Super Bowl victory. 357 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 2: Well, I'm not going to guarantee the victory, but I'm 358 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 2: certainly going to be rooting for one because I had 359 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 2: a chance to meet Bill Belichick many many years ago, 360 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 2: and I'll tell a quick story about that in a moment. 361 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 2: I want to talk first a little bit about the 362 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 2: football that we're doing. Only five thousand of these, we're 363 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 2: calling them Super Bowl sixty footballs, and it'll have the 364 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 2: official Super Bowl logo on there, and of course the 365 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 2: AFC Championship logo. When that big go win over Denver 366 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 2: will be on there. It's got various panels on the football. 367 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 2: These are full size. Only five thousands will be made. 368 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 2: There are one hundred and twenty nine dollars and ninety 369 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: five cents each. A portion of the proceeds will go 370 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 2: to one of my favorite charities that I've worked with 371 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 2: over the years, the New England Patriots Foundation, that has 372 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 2: some great work and Robert Kraft started that back in 373 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety four and we've raised a lot of money, 374 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 2: as you mentioned on some of the other Super Bowl 375 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: footballs that we've done for the Patriots, and hopefully we 376 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 2: can make this a seventh football that we will have 377 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 2: raised money for them. Night goes up to about three 378 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: point four million dollars now that they've raised for various 379 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 2: charities and such. Such a big part of that has 380 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 2: been the New England Patriots Foundation. 381 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: Now, the thing that's interesting, and I want to make 382 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: sure the callers understand this, if they decide that they 383 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: want to participate and buy one of these footballs, if 384 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: the Patriots win the Super Bowl, the football will reflect 385 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: the winning of the Super Bowl, to the disappointment of 386 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: everyone here in New England. They don't win, it then 387 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: becomes an AFC Championship football, So it's not quite a 388 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: super Bowl football, but it is still a great souvenir 389 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: of a fabulous year from which the team went from 390 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: four to thirteen to thirteen and four plus so far, 391 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: you know, two wins in the playoffs as well. 392 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, that's so right, you know. And with 393 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl logo on there, this will be historic. 394 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 2: Win or lose, but you're guaranteed at least getting this 395 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,959 Speaker 2: football when you order it now before the game, because 396 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 2: they go out and win this thing, and I hope 397 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,719 Speaker 2: they do. This thing will sell out very very quickly. 398 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: And well, I know all these Super Bowl footballs have 399 00:23:53,400 --> 00:24:00,479 Speaker 2: become historic. They are upgraded from a value stand point, 400 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 2: and I do want to paint the picture that what 401 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 2: you're going to get because everything is embossed on this dan, 402 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: which makes it makes it pristine looking for years to come. 403 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 2: The sun won't fade it. And I've got some of 404 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 2: their footballs from years ago that look brand new ten 405 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 2: years later. On the first panel, we'll have stadium history, 406 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 2: the franchise history, that Super Bowl sixty logo, the AFC logo, 407 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 2: and the Patriots logo, and then right below that on 408 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 2: the second panel, we go through the entire twenty twenty 409 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 2: five season schedule, every game, all opponents scores, and then 410 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 2: the playoff schedule with the scores there. And then the 411 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 2: last panel has an action image of Drake May and 412 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 2: some of his stats, and an action image of Trayveon 413 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 2: Henderson and some of his stats, along with a Patriot logo. 414 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 2: So you get all that on this football, But I 415 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 2: think the most valuable thing on there is to have 416 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 2: that Super Bowl sixty logo. That's a very very historic 417 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 2: part of it, and it's exclusive to Nicosports so that 418 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 2: we can raise moneyes for the foundation, the New England 419 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 2: Patriots Foundation. So if you want you want to get these, 420 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 2: you've got to act quickly because these this is the 421 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 2: first time we're announcing it tonight, and I know these 422 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 2: things are going to go off the shelf pretty quickly, 423 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 2: so too. 424 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the website. Let's get your website out there. 425 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 2: The website is nicosports dot com and you spell it 426 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 2: nik coosports dot com. That's nik coosports dot com. Or 427 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 2: you can call them eight hundred three four five two 428 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 2: eight six eight. Again, that's eight hundred three four five 429 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: twenty eight sixty eight. These are one hundred and twenty 430 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 2: nine dollars and ninety five cents each, and only five 431 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 2: thousand will be made. And I know you were talking 432 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 2: at the top about Build Belichick and the story I 433 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 2: want to give you very quickly. When I was with 434 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 2: the Baltimore Sun covering the NFL called the old Baltimore Cults. 435 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 2: I got down to a Super Bowl several times. I've 436 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 2: been about I think fourteen or fifteen of them. One 437 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 2: of the times I was at a Super Bowl, Bill 438 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 2: was not giving out a lot of good information, as 439 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 2: Bill could be on occasion, and he was a little 440 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 2: bit boring, and some of the media, TV and radio 441 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 2: were just dying for a couple of sound bites. So 442 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 2: I looked up at Bill and I said, Bill, you know, 443 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 2: I remember when you covered when you helped your dad 444 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 2: out it Navy. You were about seventeen or eighteen years old. 445 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 2: You were the water boy. 446 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: Steve Belichick was his. 447 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 2: Dad, right, Yes, Steve was his dad, and he was 448 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 2: with Navy as a scout and assistant coach for many years. 449 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 2: So he took his kid along and Bill was in 450 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 2: charge of the water pails, and so I asked him, 451 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 2: I said, now, reflect back, did you carry it with 452 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 2: your right hand or your left hand? He started laughing, 453 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 2: and he got into telling stories about being a water boy, 454 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 2: and the media just gobbled those sound bites up and 455 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 2: loved it. And then when I started covering the Colts 456 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy five, who do I find there? Bill Belichick, 457 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 2: the head coach there for the Colts at that time. 458 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 2: He hired him and gave him a salary. You get this, 459 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 2: twenty five dollars a week. Wow, twenty five bucks a week. 460 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 2: He had to go ahead and put film together and 461 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 2: some analysis on some of the ballplayers. 462 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: That's what that is. What's called paying you does, Bob? 463 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: That's what that's. Hey, Bob, I just you know, we've 464 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: talked for many years, and I just wanted to tell 465 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: some one story. What a remarkable story your family has 466 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: of a son who's in the front office of Tampa 467 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 1: Bay Rays. But more importantly, your family has dealt with 468 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 1: a tragedy. Your daughter, who was badly injured in an 469 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: automobile crash several years ago, was paralyzed from the waist down. 470 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: And we've talked several times over the years about what 471 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: Chelsea has survived and today when we are reconnected, she's 472 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 1: doing spectacularly. Well. I just wonder if you could just 473 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: tell briefly what she's doing after what she went through, 474 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: because it's a story of such hope and determination. I 475 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: would be remiss if I didn't ask you just give 476 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: us a brief rundown. I know your family has lived, 477 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: you know, initially a nightmare, but it has turned into 478 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: a remarkable story of a young woman. 479 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 2: Well, Dan, thank you for allowing me to do that, 480 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 2: because it's very inspirational and I like to get that 481 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: out because Kelsey has been so inspiring to other paraplegics. 482 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 2: This happened to her when she was only twenty five 483 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 2: years old. She was in a car going home from 484 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 2: a birthday party and the person who was a friend 485 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 2: of the driver said, get out of the cab. The 486 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 2: girls were all in a cab going home and I'll 487 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,959 Speaker 2: take you there. And it turned out that he was 488 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 2: he had drank a little bit too much. He went 489 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 2: through a fence about seventy miles an hour and they 490 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 2: plunged into a gully and Kelsey was paralyzed from the 491 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 2: waste town and it took her two and a half 492 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 2: to three months at the hospital downtown Chicago to rehab herself, 493 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,719 Speaker 2: and she had just a great will to live. They 494 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 2: didn't know if they could save her. She was in 495 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 2: ICU for a couple of weeks and it turns out 496 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 2: that you know, she survived, that she's learned how to 497 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 2: drive a car using handicap equipment. She works for Salesforce, 498 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 2: a big marketing company worldwide, and they send her out, 499 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 2: uh to She was over in Portugal and Spain in London. 500 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 2: Their head headquarters are in San Francisco. She gets on 501 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 2: planes in and out and her boyfriend, Uh, well, I 502 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 2: have to tell you she took nine other paraplegics down 503 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 2: to Key Largo, Florida, several years back and taught him 504 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 2: how to scuba dive. 505 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: She's a scuba dive. She's a scuba diver, and she 506 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: instructs me. 507 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 3: You. 508 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is an extraordinary story. And you said that 509 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: she and the boyfriend just did their first skydive together. 510 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I said to Kelsey, I said, how did you 511 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 2: know how do you get out? Normally? You know, you 512 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 2: run with your feet and you get out. He said, no, 513 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 2: they put a mat under my backside and I slid 514 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 2: off when I got off, so she did the She's amazing. 515 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 2: She's my hero. And anytime I've always felt bad about something, 516 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 2: I know. I fell about six years ago and tore 517 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 2: both of my quads and I was in a hospital 518 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 2: for two and a half months. I had learned how 519 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 2: to walk again. She shows up out there with her 520 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 2: with her service dog, Bailey, and on a Sunday night, 521 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 2: I didn't know who was coming to visit me. So 522 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 2: I got up out of my bed with two casts 523 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 2: on my leg, I get into my wheelchair, and I thought, 524 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 2: who is coming out here to see me. I look 525 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 2: down the hall and there's Kelsey and she says, Okay, Dad, 526 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 2: We're going for a race. 527 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: It's remarkable. I remember talking to you at the time 528 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: of the accident and then at the time of of 529 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: your your problems and and the story about Kelsey. They 530 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: should make a movie into it to what she has 531 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: overcome as frosc I'm concerned, Bob again. I know that 532 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,719 Speaker 1: was not we were here to talk about, but when 533 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: we when you told me about her success today, I 534 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: had to share it with my my audience because there 535 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: are a lot of people out there who need to 536 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: realize that life can be tough and it still can 537 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: be quite red and it certainly is for Chelsea. And 538 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: again it's Nico Sports nikcosports dot Com eight hundred and 539 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: three four five twenty eight sixty eight. And if the 540 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: if the Patriots win the Super Bowl, this ball will 541 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: be the super Bowl Ball. Yes, that's right, commemorative super 542 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: Bowl ball. So it's not like, you know, you buy 543 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: a T shirt that says AFC Champions and then when 544 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: they win the Super Bowl, you got to buy another 545 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: T shirt that says super Bowl Champions. Bob has always 546 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: thank you so much, congratulations on everything, and we will 547 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: talk soon, my friend. 548 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 2: Oh right, Dan, have a wonderful night, and thanks so 549 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 2: much for all your support over the years. 550 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: My pleasure, Bob, what great, great charities you've been associated with. 551 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: When we get back, we're going to give you a 552 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: tip on the best meals you can get on a flight, 553 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: according to travel polls Hannah Sampson and the Washington Post. 554 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: She's a travel reporter. She'll join us and know the 555 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: best meals are not two packages of peanuts, which I 556 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: thought would be the would be a great airport airplane meal. 557 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: Coming back on Nightside, you're on night Side with Dan 558 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: ray On Boston's news radio. Well here's the subject. Everybody 559 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: who has ever been on an airplane and either suffer 560 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: through or enjoyed an airport meal needs to know about 561 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: the best meals you can get on a flight, according 562 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: to travel pros. The story written by Washington Post travel reporter, 563 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: or as we say, WAPPO travel reporter Hannah Thompson. Hi, Hannah, 564 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: welcome back. How are you hey? 565 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:33,719 Speaker 6: I'm great? How are you? 566 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 3: So? 567 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: My question is is it the best meal? One bag 568 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,239 Speaker 1: of pretzels or one bag of popcorn? Because that's the 569 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: only meals I've seen in recent years on airlines? 570 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 6: Go ahead, get the cookie? Can you get the cookie 571 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 6: on Delta? Is the question? 572 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh god? So what what do you find? We 573 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: were just on a long flight back from New Zealand 574 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: and we were on Quantus and I was surprised the 575 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: meal was not good at all. I mean, and I'm hoping, 576 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: you know, Quantus is a national airline of Australia. As 577 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: I understand that, I'm figuring this is going to be great. 578 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: I think I got like a piece of kangaroo meat 579 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 1: or something. I'm not sure. 580 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 6: A big disappointment. 581 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, So what give us the good ones? Here so 582 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: we can we can try to readjust our flight schedules. 583 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 6: Yes, okay, here you go. So these are all according 584 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 6: to people who travel, uh with bigger budgets than I do, 585 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 6: so I'm taking their words for it. But if you 586 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 6: can get on Turkish Airlines, Emirates Qatar, some people really 587 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 6: liked KLM, Singapore Airlines, a lot of a lot of 588 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 6: the Asian airlines. 589 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: Not a lot of American I haven't heard. 590 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 6: Sorry, not not a US airline, and bunch here at 591 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 6: least in the raves that we were hearing, I will 592 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 6: say a couple of people called out Japan Airlines and 593 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 6: like business class or first class as being just the 594 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 6: most exceptional meals they've had, and they raved about the 595 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 6: multiple courses and all of the oppressive tiny bites and 596 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 6: just they couldn't say enough about it. But that's, you know, 597 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 6: a very specific airline and a very specific class on 598 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 6: that airline. 599 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 1: Okay, so now, of none of the American airlines. When 600 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: I say American, I mean the American based airlines Delta Jet, yeah, United, 601 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: I forget which ones are still operational, American Southwest, yeah yeah, 602 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: so none of them even gotta. 603 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 6: Mention, I mean, let me tell you. The mention that 604 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 6: I included in the story about a US based airline 605 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 6: was Delta, and the rave that I included was for 606 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 6: a shake shack ber or which you know you can 607 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 6: get for what like fourteen or fifteen bucks on the ground, 608 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 6: Like if that's if that's what you're salivating over on 609 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:14,959 Speaker 6: the plane, it's just sad. It's not. It's not aspirational 610 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 6: at all. 611 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 1: Well, there have been some flights. I gotta be honest 612 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 1: with you, given a show you what I was served 613 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 1: and a shake shack. So mean the shakes shack burger 614 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: was actually cooked on the plane, not that it was 615 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 1: cooked at a shake shack and transported to the plane 616 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: and frozen and then unfrozen. So that's that's tough. 617 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 6: Maybe as good as it gets. I do have one. 618 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 6: I do have one that I can mention that that 619 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 6: did get like a kind of a grudging if you 620 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,280 Speaker 6: have to get the plane meal on a US airline. 621 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 6: It's the cheese plate on Alaska does have a bit 622 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 6: of a following. So it's a cheese plate. So that's 623 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 6: like not that fancy, but it's a it's a it's 624 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 6: a highly praised cheeth plate. 625 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess if if it served with you know, 626 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,879 Speaker 1: some wine that was from you know, nineteen fifty three, 627 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 1: that was a specific, great vintage elevated Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 628 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: I remember as a TV reporter in my youth in 629 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: the seventies and eighties and nineties, airplane food was pretty good. 630 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: You could fly from Boston and Washington, which we did 631 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: a lot, and you get a full breakfast. Now you 632 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 1: can fly across the country and if you do get 633 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:34,919 Speaker 1: two bags of peanuts, Yeah, you won the lottery. You've 634 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,240 Speaker 1: won the airline lottery. 635 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 6: You can maybe buy a box, you know, a little 636 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,800 Speaker 6: box breakfast or lunch if they don't run out before 637 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 6: they get to you, or you can maybe pre order it, 638 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 6: but it's not going to be good like the I 639 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 6: think a lot of the advice that I was reading 640 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 6: from people and that I got from experts was if 641 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 6: you if you're like dealing with breakfast and you have 642 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 6: to fly across the country domestically you have to fly, 643 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,919 Speaker 6: just get something before you go. I get something real 644 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 6: good at the airport if you have, if you're lucky 645 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 6: enough to have good airport restaurants, and just bring it 646 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 6: on the plane, because like nothing you order for breakfast 647 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 6: on the plane is going to be all that satisfying. 648 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 1: Well, of course, being based in Boston for these many 649 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,359 Speaker 1: years that I have been grown up in Boston, we 650 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: have dunkin Donuts Logan Airport tough. It's tough to stay 651 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: out at dunkin Donuts as you're heading to your gate. 652 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: You can just load up with dunkin Donuts. 653 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 6: You go, get your breakfast, sandwich, get your. 654 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: Gets, greatthing everything, Henna, Thanks for thanks for joining us. 655 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 1: As always. You're always a lot of fun and you've 656 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: got a great beat, that's for sure. Keep us posted. 657 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: We'd love to have you more often. I love when 658 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: I have guests that can laugh and joke and have fun. 659 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: So often on my program we're dealing with, you know, 660 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: horrible things. It's so great to talk to someone like 661 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: you who can who can who can bring some some 662 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,800 Speaker 1: light uh and some humor, uh, some. 663 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 6: Irony anytime we can talk about airline food or whatever. 664 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 1: You got it all right handed Thompson in the Washington 665 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,320 Speaker 1: Post and you can check her writings out. She's a 666 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: travel expert, I guess, uh, but is is your You're 667 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: the you were the official travel reporter for the. 668 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 6: Washington I'm one of them, but there's actually a few 669 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 6: of us. But it's a great job. 670 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet it is. Well you do a great 671 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: job as well. Thanks so much, Hannah Sampson of the 672 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: Washington Post. Thanks Hannah. When we get back, we're going 673 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 1: to get to the stories of the evening here. We're 674 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: going to talk with right after the nine o'clock news, 675 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,919 Speaker 1: John Chester or the Boston Globe and try to unravel 676 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 1: this Massachusetts utility bill's story on which the governor's talked 677 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: about providing some relief. It isn't. It isn't, but we'll 678 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 1: get it all squared away for you and talk a 679 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 1: little bit about what your utility bills are looking like 680 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 1: this very mild and easy winter here in New England. 681 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 1: Back after the break