1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,559 Speaker 1: Frauday in Minnesota, fix this in sixty days. 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 2: Jale Han Omark on Face the Nation, What is a. 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Feeling of the SBI? 4 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: Marjorie Taylor Green on sixty minutes? I got check in 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: off fifty five KRZ the talk station. 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 3: Fifty five KRCD talk station seven o six. 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: This Tuesday morning. 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 3: December of the ninth, Christmas is done, Barroway, Dan Carroll 9 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,639 Speaker 3: and for Brian Thomas joined a couple of days off. 10 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 3: Brian Thomas is back tomorrow and our buddy Joe Strucker 11 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,639 Speaker 3: was able to talk to Andrew Pappis and get him 12 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 3: to get up early in the morning. Papas, who is 13 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 3: currently convalescing from a serious illness. You don't have You 14 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 3: don't have the wu, hon, do you. 15 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: I'll explain somebody, Dan Carroll, was if you were suffering 16 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: the ailment that I am suffering, it would be you'd 17 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: be laying in a hospital with so many tubes in 18 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: you they wouldn't be able to see you. Okay, So 19 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: let's have a little bit of compassion for those of 20 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: us that are not only suffering but are still getting 21 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: up every day and contributing to society meetings. 22 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 3: It's fantastic that is great. Let me ask you a 23 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: little hypothetical question for you. 24 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:27,919 Speaker 1: I love your hypothetical. 25 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, there is a going to be a meeting today 26 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 3: of a committee in Cincinnati City Hall. It is the 27 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 3: Public Safety and Governance Committee. And if you Andrew Pappas 28 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 3: were a member of said committee and the ordinance, I 29 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 3: know it would never happen. That's why it's hypothetical. And 30 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: an ordinance came before you that was a settlement of 31 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 3: eight point one million dollars, and. 32 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: You said, uh, look, we need you. 33 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 3: To sign off on this because we want to pay 34 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 3: two million dollars to the lawyers and four hundred and 35 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 3: seventy nine plaintiffs upwards of ten thousand dollars apiece over 36 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 3: because they were they were rioting and disobeying curfew orders 37 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 3: and disobeying police on the streets of Cincinnati in the 38 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 3: summer of the spring of twenty twenty. Would you go 39 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 3: along with and and fix your signature to such an ordinance? 40 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: You know, I'm glad you asked that question. 41 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: First of all. 42 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: To answer your questions is simply, there's no way in 43 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: hell I would ever sign that agreement, nor should anyone 44 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: that has taken the oath to protect public sign that oath? Okay, 45 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: But secondly I have I spoke to a police officer 46 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: yesterday and I posted about this on Facebook, and I 47 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: didn't know that I would be speaking to a Cincinnati 48 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: police officer yesterday. And I said, let me ask you 49 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,839 Speaker 1: a question, because this officer was in the meeting where 50 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: the settlement was announced and he got to ask some 51 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: questions about it. 52 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: How about that and how about. 53 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: That breaking news? And so I said, how does it 54 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: make you feel as a police officer that city The 55 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: city passes an ordinance, asks you to enforce it, and 56 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: literally every encounter that you have with the public of 57 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: this nature is risks your life because you never know 58 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: how anything's going to go. I mean a traffic stop 59 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: an officer risks their lives because you don't know how 60 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: it's going to go. And I said, how does it 61 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: make you feel? He said, it's not only is it infuriating. 62 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: On one hand, you just you're just consumed with how 63 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: can this happen? Because the very people that we were 64 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: asked to keep the city safe from burning. If you 65 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: remember the Summer of Love of twenty twenty protests, you 66 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: remember seeing a reporter standing in front of a burn 67 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: building going up like an inferno, and he's telling you 68 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: don't pay attention to the flames behind leim A lot 69 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: of these people are peaceful. Okay, great, that's fantastic. A 70 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: lot of them aren't mostly peaceful yet yet are our 71 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: men and women in law enforcement put their lives on 72 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: the line to protect businesses, protect residents, residences, to protect 73 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: the residence of Cincinnati from the same absolute carnage we 74 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: saw in other cities. And what did they get for it? 75 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: They got kicked in the teeth. And you know what 76 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: he said to me, He said, let me tell you 77 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: what that does to me. First of all, I'm marking 78 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: the clock when I'm when my time is up, I'm 79 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: out of here, says, I Am out of here. I'm 80 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: not working for this any longer. But he's not going 81 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: to walk away from his pension right now. That would 82 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: be you know, that'd be foolish on his part. Secondly, 83 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: because human they you know, human, we have to keep 84 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: our families. You know, it's do it right by our families. First. Secondly, 85 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 1: he said, and the next time that they ask us 86 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: to do something like this, that there's you know, widespread 87 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: civil unrest and they call the police to come out 88 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: and quell it. He said, we're not going to do it. 89 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: I mean, we'll show up. We're not arresting anybody. 90 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 2: What's the point, what's the point? 91 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: What is the point? 92 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 3: Well, I suggested, I suggested earlier this morning that they 93 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 3: just armed police officer with giant sacks of cash and 94 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,119 Speaker 3: pass out money, you know, maybe four or five hundred 95 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 3: bucks per protester and say you would you please go 96 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 3: on come back tomorrow night. We'll have another four or 97 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 3: five hundred bucks for you, and just go on. Cut 98 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 3: out the middleman, and just. 99 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: The middle which is this is the attorney. So you 100 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: saved the attorney. 101 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 3: Fees, justice first money directly to individuals who want to, 102 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 3: you know, disobey curfews and police orders and all the 103 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 3: rest of it. 104 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: Just now what he told me. What he told me 105 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: also was this was the result of the law department 106 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: charging these people under a incorrect either statute or whatever. 107 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: And I don't speak legally. That's above my pay grade. 108 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: I'm not you know me, Well, Dan, I'm not the smartest, 109 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: you know, person in the room. Uh, And I like 110 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: to people know that I'm not the smartest, but let 111 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: me say this. I'll fool you, right, I want you 112 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: to underestimate me, which is great, but I will tell 113 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: you this, if that's true, I want you to understand 114 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: the logic here. So the law department and with the city, 115 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: passes an ordinance and this and the police enforce the ordinance, 116 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: and then the law department makes mistake and charges these 117 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: these people that were arrested under either the wrong statute 118 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: or something of legalese nature. And I'm not sure what 119 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: the he mentioned is something called M one versus M four. 120 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what that means because I'm not usually 121 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: down at the Justice center, and forgive me, I'm not. 122 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: I just don't hang out there, nor am I called 123 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: down there. But I will tell you this, if that's true, 124 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: complete the circle. So the law all this stems apparently 125 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: from the law departments ineptness and incompetence. So they made 126 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: the mistake, and now the city is going to turn around. 127 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: They're going to reward the very people that were causing 128 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: the crime because of a law department's mistake. And you know, 129 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: a class action lawsuit brought about, and you know, I'm 130 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: I don't understand. Given everything we just had, what was 131 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: it two nights ago. I thought that crime was supposed 132 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: to slow down in the city. From what I've heard, 133 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: there were more shootings, there was a couple of street takeovers, 134 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: and it was cold outside, which I thought that wasn't 135 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: supposed to happen. But we have a problem in the 136 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: city of Cincinnati, and all something like this does, in 137 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: my very humble opinion, is it exacerbates the situation because 138 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: the criminals, I mean, imagine being a criminal. You're laughing, 139 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: you are laughing. What are they going to do? 140 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 2: Arrest us or pay us? 141 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: How does any reasonable person reach any other conclusion than 142 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: we are inviting more of this in the future. You know, 143 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 3: the Inquirer has done a deep dive on this, and 144 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 3: they assure us in the settlement that if you were 145 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 3: a person charged with any accompanying felony or offense of 146 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 3: violence or property damage, then you're not part of this settlement. 147 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: Do you believe that for one second that individuals who 148 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 3: were observed by police engaging in property violence or damage, 149 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 3: or knocking planners over, breaking windows, engaging in maybe some theft, 150 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 3: Do you believe for one minute that those people aren't 151 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 3: going to get part of this payoff? 152 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 2: No, do you absolutely not. 153 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 3: It may say that in the settlement, but these all 154 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 3: these cases were dismissed. So it has the city gone in, 155 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 3: has the city law department gone in and examined individual 156 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: by individual and case by case to make sure that 157 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 3: anyone who engaged in any violent activity is not going 158 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 3: to be part of this settlement. What assurances do we 159 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 3: have that that's taken place? 160 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: None? None? They you know, I the very same. Listen, 161 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: this is this is ultimately what the voters have voted for. 162 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: I mean, let's be sure the voters, the voter who 163 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: don't care. The voters don't. 164 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: Care, what's eight million care? I don't. I'm like you. 165 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 2: I don't live in the city. I don't. 166 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 3: I don't vote a bit, But I don't want to 167 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: see things like this happened. I don't want I don't 168 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 3: want the city of Cincinnati to be on national Look, 169 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 3: we were on national television plenty when we had the 170 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 3: beatdown that took place in the streets of Cincinnati. 171 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 2: You know what we did. You know when we didn't. 172 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 3: Make national television is when the George Soros sponsored UH 173 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 3: agitators came to our city and and our police force, 174 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 3: our law enforcement, the Hamilton County Sheriffs and the Cincinnati 175 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 3: police shut them down. 176 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: The mayor. 177 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 3: The mayor took this the proper steps, issued the uh, 178 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 3: the the the ordinance to have the curfew, and we 179 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 3: shut it down. And guess what we weren't on national 180 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 3: TV then, why? Because we didn't have buildings that were burning, 181 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: we didn't have police cars that were overturned, we didn't have, 182 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 3: you know, the complete street takeovers like they had in 183 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 3: other cities. 184 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: No question. 185 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: And you know, you just sit there, Imagine that you 186 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: owned a business downtown and I'm thinking of all the 187 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: small business owners that are getting up this morning driving 188 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: to work downtown or somewhere within the city limits. Okay, 189 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be downtown. The city encompasses a 190 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: lot of neighborhoods. And you sit there and you're struggling, 191 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: and you're working, and your business is you know, owning 192 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: a small business, which is the backbone of America, is 193 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: a tough thing. And you sit there and see, you know, 194 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: not only do you have to keep your business running 195 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: your customers safe, but you know, you you see every 196 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: day your neighborhood and you see what's going on in 197 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: the neighborhood that you're doing business, and here the city 198 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: comes along and the great people that are that are 199 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: a drain on in your neighborhood by being soaking up 200 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: all the resources and or causing problems, whether it's you know, 201 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: petty crime or major crime, whatever the case might be. 202 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: You see these people getting rewarded where and and and 203 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: yet you get up every day, go to work, pay 204 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: your taxes. Where's your where's your olive branch from the 205 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: city of Cincinnati. I mean, where's that? Where's your thank 206 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: you for thank you? Without you, small business owner, we 207 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: wouldn't have places for the people in this neighborhood to work, 208 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: because like it or not, not everybody works in a 209 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: in a huge building downtown. Most of it is still 210 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: still to a large degree, most of Americans are employed 211 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: by small business in this country. And this is a 212 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: not only a kick in the teeth to the taxpayers, 213 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: the law abiding taxpayers in Cincinnati. Whether you live in 214 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: Cincinnati or just outside Cincinnati, you are affected by what 215 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: happens in Cincinnati when and and and and you get 216 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: up every day and go to work, and they're just 217 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: they just you are taken for granted and what they 218 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: are doing is actually I believe, you know, paying the 219 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: inmates that are now running the asylum. 220 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Andrews, stay right there. We got to 221 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 3: get to a break, pay a couple of bills, and 222 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 3: we'll be right back with our buddy Andrew Pappas on 223 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 3: fifty five KRCV. 224 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 2: Talk station since two thousand and eight, center of Hopus 225 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: krc the talk station fifty five krc DE talk station. 226 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 3: Dan Carolyn for Brian Thomas, continuing our conversation with Andrew 227 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 3: Pappas and Papas The The Inquirer did a deep dive 228 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 3: into how the settlement breaks down, and here's here's my 229 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 3: favorite part. For those who were detained for a period 230 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 3: of more than five hours in association with their arrest, 231 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 3: they could be eligible up for for up to another 232 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 3: two thousand dollars. So I talked about this earlier this morning, 233 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: and and my math was an air. I said that 234 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: comes out to two hundred dollars an hour. I'm wrong 235 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 3: about that. That's four hundred dollars an hour. Four hundred 236 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 3: dollars an hour be a protested pays pretty good. The 237 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 3: eleven lead plaintiffs in the case receive an additional five 238 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 3: thousand dollars for their role Andrew and representing their fellow plaineiffs. 239 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: Isn't that it's outstanding. First of all, I don't blame 240 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: you because I've heard you utter many times the phrase. 241 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 2: Math is hard, Math is hardn forgiving. I do not 242 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: claim to be a genius at math. 243 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: But you know, you know it's funny because during the 244 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: break I heard something that I thought it was very 245 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: apropos and I'll let you look at up really quick 246 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: to see what it means. But the point of the 247 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: matter is is that I think counsel, I think counsel 248 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: and everyone affiliated with this decision should take a session 249 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: at the Lindener Center that advertises for mental health because 250 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: it's praisy. 251 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 2: Should avail themselves with those services. 252 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: Absolutely, they should have that. They should be listening to 253 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: fifty five r SEE and they should call the sponsors 254 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: that are advertisers on this program because anyone that would 255 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: anyone that would agree with this just I mean, I 256 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: just did. But does it surprise you? I mean, at 257 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: the end of the day, does it surprise you? We 258 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: have the City of Cincinnati continuing their contract with Iris 259 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: the virus, and we have we have the mayor then running, 260 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: you know, the mayor of Cincinnati who apparently understands the 261 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: phrase math is hard because he can't make his car 262 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: payment and all that. You know, especially especially, let's be fair, 263 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: especially in this age of instant communication and apps on 264 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: your phone and being able to see your banking records 265 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: at any time twenty four to seven, it's hard to 266 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: remember if you've paid your card wrong. It's very very difficult, 267 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: very hard. But you know, after all of this, what happens. 268 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: They get They get re elected eighty perc So you 269 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: know you're gonna you're going to go to the squeaky wheel. 270 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: You're going to go to the people that are causing 271 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: the problems, and you're gonna say, hey, what can I 272 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: do to make you just be cool for a little 273 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: while so I can get re elected. And that's who 274 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: your basis. Because the rest of the public is so 275 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: fractured and splintered it doesn't really matter. And they've got 276 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: their heads down going to work every day, living their lives, 277 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: paying their bills, paying their car payments. Excuse me, mister mayor. 278 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: And you know at the nothing there are no repercussions 279 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: for all these bad decisions. That's my point. 280 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I thought Iris Rollie had carved out 281 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 3: a pretty good gig for her son when it was 282 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 3: learned that he was down there on Fountain Square passed 283 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 3: and not Fountain Square but Government Square, passing out some 284 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 3: informational flyers to the tune of about fifty eight dollars 285 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 3: an hour. I thought that was a pretty good gig. 286 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 3: But if I can begin, you know, if I can 287 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 3: be detained by Cincinnati police and hang around the Hamilton 288 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 3: County Justice Center or the Transit center underneath Fort Washington 289 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 3: Way to the tune of about four hundred bucks an hour, 290 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 3: I think I know which way I'm going to go. 291 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: I know some attorneys that don't make four hundred dollars. 292 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: Now that's a pretty good deal. 293 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 3: So uh, Kevin Aldrich, who is the opinion editor, we've 294 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 3: only got about a minute here at an engagement editor 295 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 3: at the Inquiry took the mayor to task for his story, 296 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 3: not really not really holding water when it comes to 297 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: this story, does does does aftab Purval need to come 298 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 3: correct on this? Does he need to just own, just 299 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 3: own whatever happened with the repossessions and say look here's 300 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: the deal and get this bead he cannot allow this 301 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 3: to drag on and keep and keep dogging him. 302 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: Here's what a tab Provro's gonna He's going to ignore this. 303 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: The press is going to get tired of it. No 304 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: one's going to remember it. It's just going to fade away, 305 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: and a tab Purval will be propped up by the 306 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: Democrats as the next uh you know, promised child of 307 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: the Democrat party because he's a you know, he's he's 308 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: he's a nice looking, clean cut young man that they 309 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: will run for the next higher office. He's never, in 310 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: my opinion, he's never really had a he's never really 311 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: had an interest in serving in any office other than 312 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: the next office he was going to. So look, I'm 313 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: just telling you what's gonna happen. They're gonna do nothing. 314 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: And let's be fair good that one reporter at the 315 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: inquiry chose to do a quote unquote deep dive and say, 316 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: we wait, we have read the document here that says 317 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: that's not true. You know, because the news media couldn't 318 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: seem to hold him to task while he was sitting 319 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: in front of the camera. They just said, oh, okay, 320 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: that's a great excuse. You know, your auto pay got 321 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: messed up for not one month, not two months, not 322 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: three months, plus all the emails you must have had it, 323 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: plus the text messages, plus the phone calls you didn't 324 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: even notice that hasn't had. 325 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 2: A car repossessed. I mean, come on, it happens. 326 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: I think it's about I think it's in today's were 327 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: all the politics. I think some sort of crime, whether 328 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: it's embezzling billions of dollars in Minnesota or missing a 329 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: few car payments, I mean that gives you street cred 330 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: and that makes you you know. Now, the base is like, 331 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: you know what, he understands what I'm going through. So 332 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to support that man rather than saying, this 333 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: is the guy that's involved. This is the guy that's 334 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 1: handling our public trust and our public money, our public treasure, 335 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: and he can't freaking make a car payment or know 336 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: what's in his bank account. I'm sorry, no disrespect, listen. 337 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: I'm empathetic as the next person, but public officials should 338 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: be held to a higher standard. 339 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: All right, Well with that, Andrew, will let you go. 340 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 1: Dan Carroll, I'm on a contact, Yes, sir, the government 341 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: is called and they want to make a anybody out 342 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: of my blood because I've conquered the man called you're here. 343 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: You're a real humanitarian, doing it for. 344 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: The doing it for the people, Dan Carroll, the people 345 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: have a 346 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 2: Great day on Facebook, man, all right, see you