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Speaker 4: We've had Channel nine on and they come on at

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Speaker 4: In his lucrative nil agreement with Cincinnati Athletics, Brendan Soresby

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati Athletics intends to enforce that contractual commitment. As stewards

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Speaker 6: A forty now and also you know, does the or whatever,

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Speaker 3: I think it's super fun to watch.

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Speaker 2: But all I'm going to hear this week is how

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Speaker 3: I would also advise you to do nothing with that?

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Speaker 6: But what I would argue is that Ruby Bain had

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Speaker 6: We think both of them have the same chance, and

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Speaker 6: maybe this is a slight negative like that could impede

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Speaker 4: So the Bengals last year, Lindsay Rose is with us

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Speaker 4: Here's how he stacks up against guys who are in

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Speaker 2: But I think a lot of folks here have been like,

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Speaker 4: Show me what the guy does on film, Show me

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Speaker 6: I think that there needs to be a mix of both,

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Speaker 6: But if there's pressure, I looked up.

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Speaker 3: The state and I don't have it off the top

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Speaker 6: It's like an eighty three percent drop in expected EPA

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Speaker 6: Like there just isn't as clean a way to measure

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Speaker 4: Why did they make offensive lineman run the forty yard dash?

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Speaker 4: So the offensive lineman should run the forty. But here

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Speaker 6: they just look different now for the most part, Like

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Speaker 6: remember like the Vince Wilfork's of the world, either defensive

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Speaker 6: tackles and like those bodies don't exist anymore. They exist

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Speaker 6: a guard, right, Like you always have that guard that

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Speaker 6: pops up that's from a small school like North Dakota State.

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Speaker 6: It's always North Dakota State, or like Sacramento State or

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Speaker 6: something like that. And they're always wearing a cut off

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Speaker 6: at the Senior Bowl, and they always have long hair

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Speaker 6: and maybe maybe like dental works that they need. Like

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Speaker 6: it's such a specific snapshot of the guards and sometimes centers,

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Speaker 6: but the people that come out of nowhere at this

448
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Speaker 6: time of year and feel like the stars. But yeah,

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Speaker 6: I feel like for the most part, you look at

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Speaker 6: an edge and they have to be so lean and

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Speaker 6: so athletic and even defensive tackles and then certainly offensive tackles.

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Speaker 6: Like you just there's such a degree of athleticism and

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Speaker 6: speed kind of and not like long speed, not the

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Speaker 6: forty speed, but just like the ability to kind of

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Speaker 6: move quickly and react fast that is so necessary in

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Speaker 6: today's game. I've found it very fascinating how the bodies

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Speaker 6: have just change.

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Speaker 4: It's interesting, you know, tackles now look like tight ends

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Speaker 4: used to and tight ends now look like wide receivers.

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Speaker 4: It's just it's you've seen that sort of ripple effect,

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Speaker 4: you know, as you go from inside to out in

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Speaker 4: the sport.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and some of these tight ends are wide receivers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which is.

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Speaker 6: Another layer of like how I feel like we're especially

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Speaker 6: now you're starting to see a lot of the heavy

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Speaker 6: tight end personnel groupings that we talked about this year,

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Speaker 6: with the Seahawks running a ton of twelve and the

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Speaker 6: Rams running a ton of thirteen.

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Speaker 3: Personnel. For people who aren't familiar with those numbers.

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Speaker 6: Mean, the first number in the number twelve, the one

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Speaker 6: refers to how many running backs are on the field.

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Speaker 6: The second number the two in twelve or first how

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Speaker 6: many tight ends are on the field, and then the

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Speaker 6: leftovers is how many wide receivers are on the field.

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Speaker 6: But so many heavy tight end packages that we saw

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Speaker 6: this year on really good offenses, and I kind of

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Speaker 6: wonder if that's not a trend of something that people

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Speaker 6: copy moving forward. Did we talk all the time about

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Speaker 6: it being a coffeecat league. But because the goal of

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Speaker 6: that is to get your defense in base, because base

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Speaker 6: is not base anymore, Like everybody wants to put all

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Speaker 6: of these cornerbacks on the field, and Nickel now is

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Speaker 6: essentially five dvs is the defense that defenses are running

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Speaker 6: out most frequently. So you want to get them out

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Speaker 6: of that so that you can throw on them more efficiently,

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Speaker 6: because throwing is a better way to move the ball

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Speaker 6: downfield easily or quickly efficiently than running the ball. So

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Speaker 6: you'll run the ball a lot, and you'll put tight

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Speaker 6: ends on the field to make it look like you're

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Speaker 6: going to run the ball a lot so that you

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Speaker 6: can get the looks that you want in the passing game.

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Speaker 6: But because you're doing that, you're putting more tighten Now

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Speaker 6: you need more tight ends on your roster. And I

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Speaker 6: wonder if we're going to start seeing teams start to

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Speaker 6: just gobble up tight ends. And as you do that,

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Speaker 6: then you can have like one guy who's more of

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Speaker 6: a blocking tight end. But you can metabolize that a

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Speaker 6: little bit and take a tight end like Ronde Gadsden

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Speaker 6: from the Chargers. Remember he kind of had like a

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Speaker 6: few weeks there where he popped early in the season

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Speaker 6: and he was a converted wide receiver literally and kind

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Speaker 6: of came.

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Speaker 3: Out of nowhere and was a great past catching options for.

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Speaker 4: A little while.

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Speaker 6: I wonder if more teams aren't going to start doing that.

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Speaker 6: And as they start doing that and making the tight

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Speaker 6: end the number one target in the offense like a

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Speaker 6: train McBride is in Arizona, you know, at some point

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Speaker 6: we've got to start talking about paying them more money.

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Speaker 4: This is uh, this is really high end, and I'm

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Speaker 4: glad you're here. I have one more No it is

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Speaker 4: this is good.

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Speaker 6: Saying nerdy, which I also take.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 2: No, this is no, this is good.

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Speaker 4: This is the But because I say that, because I

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Speaker 4: got to bring up one more thing, and you've been

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Speaker 4: generous with your time, do you mind this is.

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Speaker 2: Maybe not quite as high end.

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Speaker 6: I'm good.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to give you a little backstory here. Are

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Speaker 2: you ready?

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Speaker 4: I follow you on on Twitter or we still call

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Speaker 4: it Twitter x whatever, And on Monday night, I am

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Speaker 4: laying in a hotel room in Lubbock, Texas.

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Speaker 2: And in the hotel room there are two beds.

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Speaker 4: This is like a little bit after a little bit

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Speaker 4: after midnight Texas. Time had gone to Hecken was there

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Speaker 4: for a college basketball game, and I go get dinner,

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Speaker 4: I go get a nightcap. I'm laying in bed, I'm

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Speaker 4: scrolling and I see a post from you and it

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Speaker 4: reads and I'll read it verbatim, hotel, two beds, it's

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Speaker 4: just you. Are you taking the bed closest to the

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Speaker 4: door or the window? And I was gonna chime in.

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Speaker 4: Then I thought, wait a minute, Lindsay's gonna join me.

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Speaker 4: This is gonna be awesome. And I read all the replies.

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Speaker 4: Nobody has my perspective on this, and I wanted to.

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Speaker 2: Share it with you. Are you ready?

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Speaker 6: Wow?

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Speaker 4: It depends on how you feel about cleaning people coming

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Speaker 4: into your room.

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Speaker 6: Oh that's a first of all, not a fan, right,

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Speaker 6: I'm a privacy on the door the entire time.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: So the way I look at it is, and I

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Speaker 4: was in Monday night when you sent this tweet. I'm

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Speaker 4: in the same predicament, two beds, And I said, well,

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Speaker 4: I slept in that one last night, and I'm sleeping

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Speaker 4: in this one tonight because there's nothing better than getting

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Speaker 4: into a nice made bed. But you know, if you

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Speaker 4: like the cleaning person, they'll come in and make it

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Speaker 4: for you if you're like me not a slob. So

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Speaker 4: I don't need a cleaning person every day. Don't love

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Speaker 4: them coming in, and I'd prefer to not have them

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Speaker 4: in at all. It was a two nights day, so

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Speaker 4: basically I don't have a cleaning person for the duration

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Speaker 4: of the stay, and on both nights I get a

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Speaker 4: tucked in, made bed and I'm set.

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Speaker 2: So there's the answer.

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Speaker 6: That is a great answer. I am a slob, and

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Speaker 6: that's part of the reason they don't want them in

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Speaker 6: because they don't have to clean up for the cleaning

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Speaker 6: lady when I'm.

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Speaker 3: Away and also busy.

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Speaker 6: But I yeah, I think that that's fascinating that you

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Speaker 6: switch when you're there. Yes, I have found and most

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Speaker 6: people A lot of people responded window, and a lot

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Speaker 6: of people responded window because it was closest to the

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Speaker 6: air conditioning in a lot of hotel rooms and they

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Speaker 6: wanted that or whatever. There were a lot of responses

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Speaker 6: that said that they were at wherever it made sense

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Speaker 6: in terms of eyeline with the TV, and I think

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Speaker 6: that that's maybe my rationale. I have been racking my brain.

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Speaker 6: I sucked in the one closest to the door, have

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Speaker 6: been sleeping in the one closest to the door here

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Speaker 6: in Indy, and I think that that's why. I think

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Speaker 6: it's TV proximity and I'm just trained to go to wherever,

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Speaker 6: even though I'm not watching TV here. So it's a

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Speaker 6: totally irrelevant concept. But I think just I scan the

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Speaker 6: layout of the room and then go, that's where I

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Speaker 6: will be. But I'm not one hundred percent sure that's

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Speaker 6: the reason for me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So for me, it's always if I'm there multiple nights,

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Speaker 4: it's it's both beds.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to use both.

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Speaker 4: If it's one of the other, I guess I sleep

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Speaker 4: away from the bathroom for reasons that we are not

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Speaker 4: going to talk about here. I told this is a

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Speaker 4: high end this is high end stuff we're talking about here.

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Speaker 2: I can't think you.

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Speaker 6: Should like a caller segment of that day that might be.

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Speaker 2: What we do next.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let me just talk about Trey Hendrickson more. I'd

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Speaker 4: rather talk about the hotel, get up, enjoy the time,

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Speaker 4: in Indiga.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 7: mean in terms of a menu starting from ground zero. No,

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Speaker 7: there's there's pieces there. A healthy Dax at the end

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Speaker 7: of last year. Really look at his last eight nine

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Speaker 7: games when he was when he was healthy, and uh,

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Speaker 7: really starting to transition better. There's change of direction got better,

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Speaker 7: his agility got better. As man coverage, you got better.

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Speaker 7: I'm excited about that. DJ came on for us. You know,

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Speaker 7: we talked about the linebackers, talked about the JB so.

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Speaker 2: Mouse Murphy really improved players. I'm excited.

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Speaker 7: I feel like, you know, we can add pieces to it.

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Speaker 7: We can add the leadership. They just you know, they

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Speaker 7: have to match our culture. They have to have the

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Speaker 7: FBI that that we need. And obviously we need some

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Speaker 7: impact guys.

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Speaker 2: That would be great.

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Speaker 4: And uh, you know, I mean not even like a

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Speaker 4: that's Al Golden, not even like a hey, that's really cool,

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Speaker 4: nice hearing from you, or just a thumbs up of

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Speaker 4: the thumbs up emoji. If you're gonna send that to somebody,

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Speaker 4: just send a middle finger, Like, just send a picture

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Speaker 4: of your middle finger and send it to them thumbs

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Speaker 4: up emoji. Here's Al Golden on the talent available in

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Speaker 4: this year's free agent class.

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Speaker 3: It's a good it's a good group. It really is.

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Speaker 3: It's a good group.

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Speaker 7: And again, you know, Duke uh and his group have

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Speaker 7: done a great job of identifying, you know, those players

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Speaker 7: that you know match what we're looking for and I

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Speaker 7: think that's really important. And you know, the more congruence

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Speaker 7: there is between us and them, the more conversation, the

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Speaker 7: more communication, the more collaboration, so you know, the more

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Speaker 7: you enhance your probability of success. And that's how we

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Speaker 7: feel right now that we're that we're in a really

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Speaker 7: good position going into this in terms of cap space,

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Speaker 7: in terms of clarity, and let's let's let's get some

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Speaker 7: pieces in here that match what we're doing.

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Speaker 2: At the same time.

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Speaker 4: Like, if you're her, here's a guy that you haven't

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Speaker 4: heard from in thirty five years and he randomly sends

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Speaker 4: you a message on Facebook, I guess, And I'm not

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Speaker 4: doing it to be creepy, like I'm you know, very

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Speaker 4: happily married. I'm sure she is as well. I just

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Speaker 4: thought it would she would find neat that a guy

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Speaker 4: that she went to some lame seventh grade dance with

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Speaker 4: saw her on television and thought enough to say, hey,

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Speaker 4: look that was cool thumbs up emoji. By the way,

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Speaker 4: you said Dan Pitcher's audio was boring, Yeah, it was

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Speaker 4: more boring than what we just listened to from Al Golden.

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Speaker 4: Really I want to hear this. Give me, give me

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Speaker 4: Dan Pitcher on some some stuff that the offense needs

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Speaker 4: to do better this year, and I got me scrambling.

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Speaker 2: Oh I get you scrambling. Sorry, that's fine to tell me. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: two things.

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Speaker 8: Take care of the football and we have to become

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Speaker 8: a more explosive football team on first and second down.

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Speaker 2: That's the main takeaways.

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Speaker 8: And you know, taking care of the football is always

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Speaker 8: something that you know that there's a delicate balance there

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Speaker 8: because we always want to approach offensive football from an

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Speaker 8: attacking mindset. And so if the first thing you talk

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Speaker 8: about and offensive football is don't turn the ball over, well,

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Speaker 8: that's that's a defensive mindset. That's a that's what are

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Speaker 8: we going to do to make sure we don't screw

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Speaker 8: Dishop And that's not how we want to play football.

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Speaker 2: Oh that was That wasn't as boring as I thought

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Speaker 2: it was gonna be. That was actually a pretty good answer.

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Speaker 2: Show's over. We can play more tomorrow talk Oh boy,

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Speaker 2: I can't wait. I can't wait. Thumbs up emoji to

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Speaker 2: that one. We're done. The Mark Pope Show is next.

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Speaker 2: Stick around for.

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