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Speaker 2: All right, what's up Moager, ESPN fifteen thirty, Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 2: Should short arms matter? Oh, that's the big topic today

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Speaker 2: I mentioned before. We're gonna go to Indianapolis coming up

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Speaker 2: at four thirty five and talk about Reuben Bain and

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Speaker 2: is his arm length the Brendan Sorosby thing. Will discuss

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Speaker 2: in further detail a little bit later on. Chad Brendle's

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Speaker 2: going to join us at three forty five to talk

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Speaker 2: about Soresby versus you see and UC Bearcat basketball on

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Speaker 2: the heels of Tuesday's loss to Texas Tech. So we

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Speaker 2: today found out that Rubin Bain, who look may or

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Speaker 2: may not be there when the Bengals go on the

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Speaker 2: clock with the tenth overall pick, has historically short arms

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Speaker 2: thirty and seven a seven inch And this has been

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Speaker 2: when the production was off the charts. Twenty and a

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Speaker 2: If you watched him in the Big Ten title game,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. If you watched him in the National title game,

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Speaker 2: the hell I'm thinking there. If you watched him in

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Speaker 2: the National Title Game, even though Miami lost in Ena,

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Speaker 2: But all along, as his season played out and as

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Speaker 2: the draft process has started, people have talked about his

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Speaker 2: bunch of other players who play ruben Bain's position and

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Speaker 2: first man I ain't know it. I saw that. I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 2: is that long as short? Well? Because people keep track

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Speaker 2: of such things. The only edge rushers to have shorter

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Speaker 2: short arms? Now you know who knows dude? That dude

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Speaker 2: might not be there when the Bengals go on the clock.

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Speaker 2: you hear smart people talk about Caleb Downs. After breaking

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Speaker 2: and if the Bengals took him. But I think the

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Speaker 2: Ruben Bain conversation is interesting because we just did something

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Speaker 2: somewhat similar last year. The Bengals leaned into traits. Now

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Speaker 2: will be fascinating to see if he's available. If the

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Speaker 2: is awesome, this is fun, and the other wise you

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Speaker 2: might need some of those on Saturday. What do we

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Speaker 2: learn about FC Cincinnati in the match against Atlanta? Well,

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Speaker 2: I think you.

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Speaker 5: Learned that they have a little bit of depth to

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Speaker 5: be able to handle what, hopefully, I believe Pat Newton confirmed,

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Speaker 5: is not a serious injury to Evander. I think FC

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Speaker 5: Cincinnati fans have known for a couple of years now.

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Speaker 5: What a fantastic I guess you'd call him a reserve,

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Speaker 5: But what a fantastic compliment to a Vander that Dotto

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Speaker 5: Valezuela is. He came in, he didn't miss a beat,

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Speaker 5: he kept things ticking. He doesn't have, at this moment

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Speaker 5: in time, the same. I guess you could call it

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Speaker 5: final third killer instinct that Evander has. But Valezuela is

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Speaker 5: a soccer player. He is a great, great soccer player.

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Speaker 5: He's got a really bright future and I want to

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Speaker 5: see him with more opportunities to be on the field

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Speaker 5: more and I hope it doesn't have to come at

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Speaker 5: the expense of an injury to Evander. But I think

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Speaker 5: Cincinnati fans will will find out a lot more about

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Speaker 5: their team in the next couple of weeks in Pat

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Speaker 5: Noonan how he has evolved things tactically to try to

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Speaker 5: make up for not only losing your one of your

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Speaker 5: best players, one of the best players in the league,

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Speaker 5: but also how you can continue to evolve from being

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Speaker 5: just a very good regular season team to then carrying

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Speaker 5: that over into the playoffs. And so it was a

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Speaker 5: professional performance against Atlanta United. I was able to watch

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Speaker 5: back most of that game, and it was comfortable. They

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Speaker 5: looked comfortable. They missed a couple of golden opportunities, but

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Speaker 5: you got big moments in the match. Cincinnati got the

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Speaker 5: big moments in the match, especially in the second half.

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Speaker 2: Right, I was thinking the worst, as most of his

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Speaker 2: sports fans do, when a Vander went down the other night.

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Speaker 2: It feels like they've dodged something really serious, which is good,

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Speaker 2: I do think, though it provides an interesting test because

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Speaker 2: and I think you could say this about FC Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: going back to when Lucho Acosta was here, it felt

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Speaker 2: like there were times where they leaned on him a

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Speaker 2: little bit too much. And then I would say the

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Speaker 2: same about Avander last year, and he was up to

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Speaker 2: the task and they had a good season. But I

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Speaker 2: do think like that's been one of the storylines this year,

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Speaker 2: like can you find offense without him on the field,

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Speaker 2: And while you want him and you are breathing a

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Speaker 2: huge sigh relief that it feels like this is not

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Speaker 2: going to be something all that serious. I do think

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Speaker 2: it provides them a chance to pass an early season test,

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Speaker 2: just to see if they can generate more offense without him.

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Speaker 2: What do you say to that.

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Speaker 5: It's a wonderful point. And I put a Vander in

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Speaker 5: the same category as I would an Anders Dryer, a

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Speaker 5: Lionel Messi, Denny Bowonga, a Sun Hung Men, a superstar

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Speaker 5: who can win a game for you at the drop

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Speaker 5: of a hat. That is what Evander is and that

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Speaker 5: is why he is one of the best players in

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Speaker 5: Major League soccer. And that's why Pat Noonan is gonna

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Speaker 5: say ten times out of ten, well, I I want

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Speaker 5: him on the field, and I want him healthy, but

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Speaker 5: you also want a plan B in a Plan CE,

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Speaker 5: and sometimes whether that's through manufactured rest or whether that's

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Speaker 5: through a small injury, you are able to find out

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Speaker 5: more about your team when some of these players aren't

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Speaker 5: on the field. I would love to see Pat Noonan

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Speaker 5: be able to incorporate Valenzuela into the lineup even when

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Speaker 5: Evander is healthy, because there are times where FC Cincinnati

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Speaker 5: I think they're going to dominate the game based on

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Speaker 5: the quality of players that they have. I would love

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Speaker 5: to see them put more attacking players on the field

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Speaker 5: that are able to find different solutions. And I thought

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Speaker 5: Pat Noonan got the balance right against Atlanti and Nighted.

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Speaker 5: It was a surprise to me to see Jabbari up

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Speaker 5: top from the start. I mean, look, maybe I don't

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Speaker 5: I didn't follow them too closely in preseason. Maybe that

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Speaker 5: wasn't a surprise to Cincinnati fans, but he impressed me.

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Speaker 5: He's a big body. He provides you a different profile

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Speaker 5: to say a Brenner. He's more of a Robin to

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Speaker 5: Evander and Kevin Denk. If they're Batman right, you have

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Speaker 5: you need another guy on the field. Who's willing to

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Speaker 5: do the dirty work, who's willing to have hold up play,

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Speaker 5: who's willing to make unselfish plays and unselfish runs to

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Speaker 5: open up space for your superstars. And so I was

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Speaker 5: impressed with Jabbari's performance. I was impressed with Brian Ramirez.

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Speaker 5: Pat Noonan went out of his way to praise him

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Speaker 5: after the game. And by the way, what is it

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Speaker 5: with FC Cincinnati being able to find these absolutely fantastastic

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Speaker 5: left foot wing backs.

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Speaker 2: I don't what what is where is.

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Speaker 5: Chris Albright shopping? Because first it was alvar Obarial and

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Speaker 5: then you lost him, you replaced him with Origiano, who

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00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,959
Speaker 5: looked like a match winner, and then you get rid

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Speaker 5: of Origiano and now you have Ramirez, who looks like

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Speaker 5: a fantastic addition and a great piece to the puzzle.

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Speaker 5: So I've just been really impressed continually with Chris Albright

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Speaker 5: and his ability to go and replace important players and

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Speaker 5: make sure that Pat Noonan is constantly able to refresh

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Speaker 5: this roster.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be a Saturday afternoon match on Saturday afternoon,

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Speaker 2: because that's when Saturday Afternoon matches take place. Four point

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Speaker 2: thirty Apple TV, DAX McCarty part of MLS three sixty

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Speaker 2: Austoin to have you as always, man. Enjoy the matches

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Speaker 2: this weekend, We'll do it against you and thanks so much.

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Speaker 5: My pleasure. Anytime you need me, I'm always available.

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Speaker 2: Good luck you guys, most definitely love having you on.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Dax McCarty. Apple TV FC Cincinnati afternoon

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Speaker 2: match against Minnesota Minnesota Minnesota United TIEDE. We have a

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Speaker 2: new new manager or head coach, Cameron Knowles. They had

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Speaker 2: to draw in their first match against Austin twoall FC

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati coming off that victory over Atlanta and a huge

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Speaker 2: sigh of relief being breathed at the vander injury which

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Speaker 2: I was watching that unfold on social media and you

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Speaker 2: could understand why I've see Cincinnati fans were apprehensive. It

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Speaker 2: feels like they have dodged a major bullet in relation

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Speaker 2: to his injury. Seventeen away from four o'clock, Chad Brendle

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Speaker 2: on the Bearcats and Soresby versus U See.

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Speaker 4: Next Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty traffic.

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Speaker 3: From the UCE Health Traffic Center at you See Health.

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Speaker 3: accident free around town at the moment, but southbound seventy

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Speaker 3: five there is ongoing construction work between Ronald Reagan Highway

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Speaker 3: Shepherd Lane. Northbound seventy one seventy five. Traffic slow between

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Speaker 3: two seventy five and twelve. I'm at Ezelic with traffic.

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Speaker 2: Twelve away from four o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 2: l Oeger. Thank you for listening. Thursdays we talk you

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Speaker 2: see sports with our guy Chad Brendle, Bearcat Journal dot

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Speaker 2: com man who hosted this show on Monday and Tuesday

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Speaker 2: of this week. And there's a lot to discuss, hi chat.

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Speaker 1: I know, I think I'm hosting the show Thursday and

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Speaker 1: Friday also of next week, and then I.

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Speaker 2: Believe the following Monday, right, yeah.

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Speaker 1: And Monday. Yeah? Is that your spring training trip?

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Speaker 2: That's the annual spring training track? Yes, yes, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you and you and Jimmy have a good time counting

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Speaker 2: down the counting down the minutes. Not gonna lie to

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Speaker 2: you counting down the minutes to uh my first Arizona beer.

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Speaker 2: No question, Uh is UC versus Brendan Soresby ever actually

568
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Speaker 2: gonna make it to a courtroom.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I have no cluemo. This thing seems so

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Speaker 1: cut and dry, but it's all built on such a

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Speaker 1: house of cards that I mean, I guess there's a

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Speaker 1: way for them to prove through Ohio law that it

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Speaker 1: wasn't a binding contract. But I mean, if these things

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Speaker 1: aren't by like, what are we doing well? If you

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Speaker 1: can't sign a guy to a two year contract and

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Speaker 1: then hold them to the buyout in that contract, like

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Speaker 1: this thing, it's not sustained. I mean, it already doesn't

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Speaker 1: feel sustainable if this wins in court. Like, I don't know, man,

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Do you think do you think that Joe Royer should

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Speaker 2: sue Brendan Sorosby for never throwing him the football?

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Speaker 1: Maybe? Yeah, breach a contract?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 1: They were roommates, so maybe there's like, you know, something

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Speaker 1: in there that they could he could go after. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, there's got to be a way that

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Speaker 1: I just don't I don't understand it. You you did,

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Speaker 1: you see get value out of having Brendan Soresby back

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Speaker 1: for this year from January to October. Absolutely, can they

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Speaker 1: sue him back for November?

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Speaker 2: Here's what I want to know. So you see plays

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Speaker 2: Texas Tech on October the twenty fourth, it's it's Cincinnati's homecoming.

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Speaker 2: They have the reigning Big Twelve champs in for homecoming.

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Speaker 2: Have we ever had a college football game where there's

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Speaker 2: been active litigation between one of the schools in the

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Speaker 2: game and one of the players on the other team.

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Speaker 1: You think might like, would there be a like if

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Speaker 1: he doesn't pay, would there be like a warrant out

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Speaker 1: for his arrests? Would the fuzz be with those would

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Speaker 1: those like you know, the guys that lee and those

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Speaker 1: guys that they pay for security down on the field,

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Speaker 1: would they be able to like go arrest Brendan Soresby

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Speaker 1: and warm ups?

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be a scene that would be fun? Yes,

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Speaker 2: that would be That would be yeah.

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Speaker 1: That would being the Bearcat get arrested right about a

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Speaker 1: closing teams quarterback.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's one of the things I might really

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Speaker 2: like about this era of college sports that we're in

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Speaker 2: is we're going to have schools suing players and then

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Speaker 2: those players having to play against the school, the school

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Speaker 2: that suit them, and it just it it ratchet is

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Speaker 2: it ratchets things up a little bit? And I'm here

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Speaker 2: for it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I I don't know, man, Like you made a

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Speaker 1: lot of money at you see, Brendan, you made a

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Speaker 1: lot of money going to Texas Tech. Like to me,

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Speaker 1: you know what it sounds like.

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Speaker 6: No one these crooked ass agents in college are taking

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Speaker 6: twenty percent off the top of these contracts.

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Speaker 1: I mean, is this guy acting the way he is

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Speaker 1: his agent because it's gonna cost him two hundred thousand dollars?

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Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, h fair question. Chad brenda Is at Journal

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Speaker 2: dot com. Hey, I get it. I am amused by

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Speaker 2: the fact that you have a school suing a player

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Speaker 2: who may play against him in October, Like, well, you

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Speaker 2: won't play against him in October barring injury, and we'll

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Speaker 2: see if there's still active litigation. But no, man, I'm

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Speaker 2: your basic premise. I agree with if if you can't

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Speaker 2: enforce this contract, then legitimately, what are we doing? And

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Speaker 2: we ask that somewhat rhetorically, but in an era where

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Speaker 2: you know, the entire foundation of college sports seems to

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Speaker 2: have never been flimsier than it is right now. Contracts

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Speaker 2: may be the last thing holding it up. And so

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Speaker 2: if we decide that they're null and void and can't

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Speaker 2: be enforced, then then what's the point of any of us.

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Speaker 1: I mean, here's the question, bro. If Brendan Sorsby plays

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Speaker 1: two games last year and suffers an injury that you know,

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Speaker 1: God forbid severely limits the rest of his playing career,

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Speaker 1: could Cincinnati have backed out of that two year contract

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Speaker 1: and said we're not paying twenty twenty six Because I'm

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Speaker 1: guessing if that was the case, Brendon Soorsby's lawyers would

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Speaker 1: be knocking on Cincinnati's door saying, we want our money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's switch gears. Can the Bearcats win the remaining

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Speaker 2: three regular season basketball games?

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Speaker 1: Can they? Sure? I mean, I was busy working the

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Speaker 1: other night and I got done working and I looked

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Speaker 1: up and UCF was up seventy five to thirty on

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Speaker 1: BYU seventy five to thirty. Now, in the next sixteen minutes,

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Speaker 1: I think BYU scored something like fifty six points in

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Speaker 1: the next sixteen minutes. So beating them is not going

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Speaker 1: to be easy. But I mean, Oklahoma State is struggling

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Speaker 1: right now, their best, second best player gets hurt in

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Speaker 1: the final five seconds of overtime in that West Virginia game.

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Speaker 1: You should have an advantage there. BYU, you know a

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Speaker 1: lot of it. I think a lot of BYU. Devans

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Speaker 1: is gonna get his he's incredible. Can you shut down

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Speaker 1: Rob Right? If you can shut down Rob Right and

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Speaker 1: they don't have Richie Saunders Sanders like you got a

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Speaker 1: chance against BYU. I mean the toughest one might be TCU.

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Speaker 1: At home, they're on the bubble, they're gonna be playing

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Speaker 1: for their tournament life. Jamie Dixon's teams over the past

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Speaker 1: couple of years have historically been significantly better at home

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Speaker 1: than they are on the road. That one's gonna be

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Speaker 1: I mean b YU and tc You're both gonna be

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Speaker 1: really difficult. But I mean that TCU one boy, and

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Speaker 1: that would be kind of the epitome of what we've

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Speaker 1: gone through the last five years. Right, they win these two,

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Speaker 1: now everybody's got them in the next four out, the

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Speaker 1: first four out. Can they get this last win and

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Speaker 1: then pop goes the bubble?

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Speaker 2: Do you subscribe to the belief that they have a

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Speaker 2: chance if they win the next three, and then two

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Speaker 2: in Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: What I subscribe to, what you should subscribe to is

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Speaker 1: Bearcat Journal dot com. What I don't subscribe to MO

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Speaker 1: is that conference tournaments matter at all anymore. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: just don't think the election committee good.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say. I think if there's been one

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Speaker 2: takeaway about this entire process that I've had for the

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Speaker 2: last decade, it's exactly what you just said.

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Speaker 1: They don't matter at all. They don't care. Like especially

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Speaker 1: the last probably five years, there's been multiple cases of

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Speaker 1: if this team wins one or two in the conference tournament,

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Speaker 1: they're playing their way in, and then that team's on

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Speaker 1: like the next four out like they weren't even close.

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Speaker 1: So there's a million bits of evidence here showing us.

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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it's like, you know, you beat Arizona

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Speaker 1: and Houston on your way to the Big twelve title game,

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Speaker 1: but those odds are not great. So if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: get it done, you gotta win these next three. Let

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Speaker 1: the chips fall where they may. I think they probably

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Speaker 1: have dug themselves a hall that's too deep. I do

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Speaker 1: think there was if they had won at Texas Tech.

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Speaker 1: I thought there was a path, yes, because that would

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Speaker 1: have been another top fifteen type road win that really

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Speaker 1: would have enhanced your resume. You know, beating BYU at

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Speaker 1: home is gonna help. But I don't think anybody's gonna

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Speaker 1: look at that and go, damn, that's that's a team

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Speaker 1: that we've got to put in. So I don't think

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Speaker 1: the tournament, the Big Twelve Tournament, helps any Maybe you

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Speaker 1: get right there to the cut line, if you go

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Speaker 1: three and oh to end the regular season, I just

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Speaker 1: don't think there's enough meat on the bone that's gonna

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Speaker 1: get them over that hurdle.

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Speaker 2: Right now, you and I talked last Thursday. The Bearcats

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Speaker 2: were in the middle of a three game winning streak

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Speaker 2: that had it felt like change the conversation about Wes

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Speaker 2: Miller's future. What did saturdays blowout win at Kansas do

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Speaker 2: for that conversation.

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Speaker 1: I mean it solidified some of the belief that there's

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Speaker 1: a chance he can play his way back into consideration

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Speaker 1: and rightfully so, like you know, you go to Kansas

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Speaker 1: to be Kansas by sixteen, fully healthy Kansas. Since Darreon

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Speaker 1: Peterson plays the entire game, you know, nothing fluky happened

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Speaker 1: in that game that that was just Cincinnati played better

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Speaker 1: than Kansas, you know, it certainly helps. I still think

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Speaker 1: it's going to be a really hard sell to the

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Speaker 1: fan base if they don't make the NCAA tournament. But

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Speaker 1: there are people that you know, they donate more to

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Speaker 1: U see than I'll make in a decade. Those people

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Speaker 1: have a lot of weight, and I think that there's

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Speaker 1: a portion of that group that really likes Wes Miller

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Speaker 1: and wants to see him succeed in this job. And

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Speaker 1: if they're ten and eight, you know, if they went

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Speaker 1: out and they still miss the tournament, but they're ten

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Speaker 1: and eight in the Big twelve, and you know, they

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Speaker 1: they prove kind of in Big twelve play that they

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Speaker 1: were legitimate. I there's there's you know, there's a decent

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Speaker 1: chance you see him back for year six.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff as always, man, I will uh, I'll talk

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Speaker 2: to you in two weeks. Thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy Arizona, though

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Speaker 2: I most definitely will next Wednesday, four o'clock ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 2: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station