WEBVTT - Final Lesson on the Rhodesian Bush War 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:04.280 The Jesse Kelly Show Second hour, another hour of The 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:08.520 Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful Tuesday, and do not forget. 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:12.680 You can email us Jesse at jessekellyshow dot com. We 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:18.439 are about to finish finally the Rhodesian bush War tonight. 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:21.599 I have no worthly idea how long it's going to 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:24.120 take me. It might not even take me an hour. 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:26.920 It probably won't, but who knows. And then once we're 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:30.280 done with that, that'll wrap that up, and then we'll 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:32.600 move back on to politics or remember, if you missed 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:38.480 any of the previous four parts, they're all available on Iheartspotify, iTunes, 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:41.880 go download the podcast. I give all the background and 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:45.040 stuff like that, and always keep something else in mind 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:49.879 whenever we do history on this show. If there is 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:53.519 a topic that intrigues you, I just want to stress this. 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:58.560 There is a topic that intrigues you, I want to 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:06.400 encourage you that I can't possibly present all the interesting, 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:11.440 cool parts of it to you. Meaning, if I like 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:14.920 the Rhodesian buschwart's about to be five hours basically of content, 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:19.520 if you're fascinated by it. It can be common to 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:21.560 think this, and I know because I used to do this. 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:24.920 It can be common to think, Okay, well I got it, 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:30.160 Jesse already told me about it. No, you're getting the 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:34.000 parts of it that are uniquely intriguing to me. And 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:38.160 of course you have an overview now, a basic understanding 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:42.520 of it. But I only have a basic understanding of it. 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:46.760 If there are parts of it that intrigue you, any 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:51.320 parts of it, go read or listen to podcasts or 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:55.080 even audio books, like Jewish producer Chris does. If there's 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:58.280 a subject that fascinates you that maybe we've introduced you 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:02.360 to on this show, dig into it more yourself. There's 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:06.520 so much more out there. I had to learn this myself. 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:09.200 I'd read one book on something and think, Okay, I 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:11.400 got it. That's it. No, no, no, no, no, go 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:14.120 read ten books on it. There's all kinds of different 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:18.239 perspectives and angles and details and more things that will 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:21.480 come to you if you're fascinated by it. Dig into it, 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:24.600 all right. So we got this email Jesse, I'm really 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:27.280 enjoying the history of the Rhodesian Bush War. We got 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:29.320 a bunch of these. I'm glad you enjoying it. At 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:33.400 the beginning of the century, I completed MSG training and 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:35.760 was headed to my first post. By the way, MSG 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:39.680 is Marine Security Guard. Those are the guys who guard 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:42.720 our embassies. The United States Marines guard the embassies. Anyway, 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:47.160 headed to my first post, Zimbabwe. I had no idea 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:50.840 where it was. To complicate matters, the schoolhouse map was 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:54.240 from nineteen seventy nine, and I had no idea that 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:57.920 it had been Rhodesia. The country was amazing, but I 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:01.440 arrived just as the economy was collapsing. Not to give 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:04.320 it away, one of the local guards told me that 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:07.639 he had fought alongside Robert Mugabi. I'll get to him 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:10.680 in a bit. When I asked him what Mugabi was like, 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:14.680 he gave me this haunting stare and simply said he 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:18.400 is a cruel man. A very telling statement from his 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:21.520 former comrade. Anyhow, keep up the good work. I love 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:27.280 your show. Simplify. Yeah, I'll let the rest of that 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:34.240 thing go. So now I mentioned yesterday where we are now, 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:36.280 I won't recap it for you again. I've already done 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:40.360 too much of that. Nineteen seventy four Mozambique, the country 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:44.320 east of Rhodesia. They had been friendly to Rhodesia because 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:49.640 they were controlled by the Portuguese. Mozambique falls, Portugal pulls out. 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:54.080 They say, hey, you can have it now. Mozambique is 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:59.920 openly hostile to Rhodesia and the communist terrorists. They move 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:06.520 into Mozambique in a huge way. Gigantic training camps are 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:11.760 now open in Zambia and Mozambique. The Soviet Communists are 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:16.880 pouring money and munitions and training into these areas. The Chinese, 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:21.640 the Chicoms are pouring money and munitions and training into 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:28.640 these areas. Rhodesia has its enemies amassing on its borders. 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:34.760 It has officially one friend left on the planet, and 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:39.159 that friend is South Africa. South Africa kind of on 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:45.760 the southwestern border of Rhodesia and South Africa was half 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:51.200 their air force planes. South Africa would send men to help. 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:54.840 But here is part of the problem with diplomacy. I 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:56.479 shouldn't say problem. It's just the way the world works. 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:59.080 I shouldn't even call it a problem. Let's be adults here. 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:02.960 It's the way that we're world works. Countries like the 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:06.680 United Nations, or countries like the United States, Organizations like 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:11.600 the United Nations, countries like the UK, they're not stupid. 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:16.919 They understand that Rhodesia is still held up, at least 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:20.800 in part by the South Africans. Well, that creates a 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:24.760 problem for South Africa because South Africa is not powerful 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:30.880 enough to withstand America, the UN, the UK. So they 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:37.159 start leaning hard on Rhodesia to change. And remember the 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:39.440 change they want as you read it, as you dig 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:42.920 into it, the change they've always wanted is one man, 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:46.240 one vote, one man, one vote. Well, that would mean 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:50.359 the Europeans would essentially have no power whatsoever, and the 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:54.800 various African tribes would take over all positions of government. 0:05:55.560 --> 0:06:00.800 Now pause, by this time, that has our already happened 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:08.800 in several countries around Africa. And every place that happened, genocide, poverty, 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:14.240 war and misery has followed. The world knows. Everybody knows. 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:18.040 If you hand it back over, they're going to murder 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:22.240 everybody and destroy every ounce of progress and it's going 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:25.200 to be a disaster. And the Rhodesians know this as well. 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:30.160 Remember we're talking a country that got going in eighteen ninety, 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:33.880 not that old. We're less than one hundred years old 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:38.359 on this country here, and these Europeans managed to build 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:42.880 it into the wealthiest, most prosperous country in Africa, modern 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:46.320 paved roads, the works, and they're looking around at every 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:50.679 other country in Africa fall and saying we're not giving 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:55.400 it back. You're outside of your mind. But the idea 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:59.920 was one man, one vote. Now, sorry, folks on Paul 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:02.080 for a moment. We're going back to combat in a minute. 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:05.839 Don't worry about remembering these details. I've given you too many. 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:07.800 There's a lot of details in the story. The head 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:12.320 of Rhodesia is Ian Smith. Was his name, Ian Smith. 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:17.640 He was trying and obviously failed in the end. And 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:21.120 the different things you read will give you different opinions 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:23.680 of Ian Smith. I need to clarify that. But no 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:26.520 matter which way you shake it, he was trying really 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:30.960 hard to work with Britain on an agreement of some 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:37.160 kind that would allow Rhodesia to remain Rhodesia while maybe 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:40.920 giving Britain enough of what they wanted to kind of 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:44.640 back off. Hey, back off? Now? Why is he so 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:47.360 desperate for them to back off? Remember I told you 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:51.080 before that Rhodesia was so wealthy and so prosperous that 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:54.440 people were pouring in. Other Africans were pouring in looking 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:59.200 for opportunity, looking for work. Europeans were pouring in. Hey, 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:03.160 this is a great place, fertile ground, modern, let's go 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:07.120 have an adventure. Let's go, let's go to Rhodesia. By 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:09.560 this point in the story, we're at the late seventies. 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:13.760 By this point in the story, that has changed. Now 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:19.040 farmers are being slaughtered. Now, if you get caught out 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:22.600 in the hinterlands by the terrorist groups with the terrorist camps, 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:27.440 they'll kill you, rape you, torture you. Now you had 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:31.640 to have an armored convoy. Let's say you and me, 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:34.960 throw your fam in the car. I'll throw my fam 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.200 in the car. We're gonna go camp in this weekend. 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:39.400 We're gonna go out to the hinterlands. They'd call it 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:41.360 the bush. We're gonna go out to the bush and 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:44.840 we're gonna go fishing this weekend. You can't do that 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:47.400 anymore in Rhodesia, unless, of course, you have a friend 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:51.200 in the army, because it requires a military convoy to 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:54.440 drive out to the hinterlands. Think of it this way. 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:58.640 Salisbury is the main city. It wasn't only Salisbury, but 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:02.480 I'll make it easy. Salisbury the main city. Consider Salisbury 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:06.120 your fortress of safety. It's four to five fortress of safety. 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:12.360 That's fine. You leave that fortress, you might die. You 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:15.640 go out to any of the rural lands in Rhodesia, 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:20.240 you might die, and you might die ugly. Well. Remember, 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:24.640 Rhodesia may have had an elite military, but still it 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:27.360 was not a military. The country itself, Rhodesia was not 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:31.240 a military. It was a country, a country made up 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:39.319 of people of men, women, young, old school children, churches. 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:45.400 It was a civilization. And people who had previously come 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:50.800 to Rhodesia in search of opportunity and adventure. They didn't 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:53.480 want to live in a place where a landmine might 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:56.520 incinerate your whole family when you were driving out for 0:09:56.600 --> 0:10:00.640 a picnic after church on a Sunday afternoon. Things have 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:04.880 gotten so bad and Rhodesia Europeans are leaving, thousands of them. 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:10.960 They're done. The country is coming apart. We'll continue in 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:15.840 a moment Jesse Kelly's Show on a Fantastic, Fantastic Tuesday. 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:19.440 You can email us Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:22.800 Back to our Rhodesian Bush War history. Now we need 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:26.200 to pause on Rhodesia specifically for a moment, and we 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:29.000 need to focus on the terrorists or gorillas, depending on 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:32.120 which side you're on. Here. As I told you before, 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:38.360 there are two very very different communists terrorist groups, and 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:42.959 they're different because they come from the two different African 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:48.600 tribes that had previously controlled Rhodesia. I won't bother with 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:51.200 naming the tribes again, that's just the detail. It doesn't matter. 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:52.920 You can go dig into it. The tribes are known 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:59.520 as different things anyway, but two different tribes historical hatred, slavery, slaughter, 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:07.360 historical hatred. Well, one of those tribes backed by the Soviets, 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:12.839 the other tribe backed by the Chinese. But wait, there's more. 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:18.200 Communists are horrible, aren't they. They're even horrible to each other. 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:23.920 You see, there's actually an internal communist revolt that kind 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:27.800 of slows things down for the Soviet back communists because 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:31.480 they end up having their leaders arrested and tortured, and 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:33.719 then they have to arrest and torture the guy. It's 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:37.120 don't My whole point in this was don't think that 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:40.760 it's all hunky dory with the communist terrorists who are 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:43.920 setting up these camps outside of Rhodesia, and in some 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:47.839 cases in Rhodesia. It is not now back to being 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:54.040 in Rhodesia. The Rhodesians are running out of stuff, and 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:57.640 it really is. It's amazing how how how they were 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:01.120 able to fix planes and fix helicopter with essentially what 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:04.320 they had on hand. They're patching it all together. I 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:06.920 was reading one thing from a guy. He was Rhodesian 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:11.240 light infantry, and he talked all the time about how 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:15.000 he would have to stitch up his own combat gear 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:18.040 because the gear they had was so worn out and 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:22.319 frayed that you couldn't even store anything in it. Remember, 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:27.440 these guys are toughest nails. Their military was excellent, but 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:31.400 they're running out of things, and they're also hurting for 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:35.440 man power. Remember yesterday what I mentioned fire force. What 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:39.280 it was Fireforce were these different quick reaction forces in 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:43.760 the country and they would they would find terrorists, they'd 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:45.600 get load up in the heroes, load up in the planes, 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:49.080 take off towards the terrorists, try to surround them, envelop 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:52.800 them and kill them. All sounds great, worked really well, 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:58.080 was a genius idea, But the number of terrorists is 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:04.560 seemingly endless. The number of Rhodesians is not. They don't 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:08.560 have the man power to suffer a broken ankle. These 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:10.720 fire force units were supposed to be one hundred men, 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:13.120 one hundred and twenty men. They were always going out 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:17.760 with seventy. People were dying, people were getting hurt. And again, 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:22.079 this is a tiny portion of society. The man power 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:29.800 is limited. So let's discuss somebody briefly here, because he's 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:32.160 going to matter. In fact, the email brought him up already, 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:36.719 Robert Mugabi. People who have any understanding of history of 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:39.480 the region will know the name. Of course, certainly older 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:44.800 people will know the name Robert Mugabi. Spoiler alert. He's 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:48.199 the head of one of the communist groups, the Chinese backed, 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:54.680 actually the Chinese backed communist group that will eventually conquer Rhodesia. 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:59.000 Remember that he is already a monster, a butcher. He 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:03.000 is known as a butcher. He has advanced Chinese training, 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:08.760 not just on military stuff, on insurgencies, on everything. He 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:14.040 is somebody widely known to be a bad, bad person. 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:18.719 I mentioned Ian Smith's negotiations with the British government, how 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:21.720 they're trying to negotiate some sort of an agreement where 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:25.560 the Rhodesians can the Europeans essentially can retain control, but 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:29.600 of course with increased African representation and things like that. 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:34.200 And one of the things the Rhodesians were passionate about 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:39.840 was under no circumstances can Robert Mugabi take over this country. 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:43.680 This was something well known even with the other terrorists, 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:48.560 the Soviet back terrorists, even they knew, Oh, Robert Mugabi, 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:52.640 that would probably be bad. He definitely seems like a 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:56.800 genocidal madman who will kill and torture everybody. We should 0:14:56.840 --> 0:15:01.600 probably avoid that. Now, what kind of things are the 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:05.160 Rhodesians doing. Some of these things you may love, some 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:08.480 may not. I mentioned yesterday. They're putting up their own 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:14.680 land mines, lots of them. They are draining the rural 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:18.640 areas because now that the Communists are able to come 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:24.600 into Rhodesia, in the rural areas, the Communists are recruiting Rhodesians, 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:29.480 Black African Rhodesians, recruiting them from inside the country. And 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:33.680 by the way, because they're communists, it's not always lovely 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:38.720 recruit recruitment recruitment with US signing bonuses and candy canes 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:42.200 for everybody. They operated in much the same way the 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:45.680 Vietcong operated. They would walk into your African village and 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:48.720 pull the village elder in the village leader and ask 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:51.400 him for twenty young men to join the communist cause. 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:53.920 And if he said no, they gather the whole village 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:56.600 around and they carve his guts out while he's still 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:59.200 alive in front of everybody, rape all the women, and 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:02.280 chop people's head off. It's horrible. It's just human rights 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:07.080 abuses like you can't possibly imagine. Well, now this is 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:11.840 making a bad problem even worse for the Rhodesians. They're 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:17.480 having internal problems, and so they start doing things like 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:20.280 I already mentioned, draining these areas. They're not letting people 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:24.080 stay there anymore. Now they're having things like curfews where 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:28.440 if they catch you out after a certain hour, you die. Period. Well, 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:30.560 what's going to happen? Then you're going to eventually kill 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:34.400 innocent people, and then that's going to make international news. 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:40.000 They're just swimming against the tide. So they eventually do 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:43.280 pull off one of the cooler military things I've ever 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:48.360 heard in my life that was awesome and wonderful in 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:51.480 a complete and total disaster. I will explain what that 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:55.360 is in a moment. Jesse Kelly show on a Fantastic 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:59.520 Tuesday going over the final part of the Rhodesian bush War. 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:03.200 If you miss to any of the others, iHeart spotify iTunes. 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:06.680 So by now I mentioned already the Rhodesians are having 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:10.480 to take extreme measures, and keep in mind, I don't 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:14.480 want to present them as fluffy and cuddly. They're doing 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:18.760 some torturing themselves. They are, and they're doing things that 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:24.440 would make you probably squeamish. For instance, they're selling cigarettes, 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:32.040 clothing to the communist gorillas that's poisoned, poisoning them. These 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:35.679 are the kinds of things they're doing. Now I mentioned 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:39.680 Mozambique and how big of a problem Mozambique was. These 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:45.680 huge communist training camps were in Mozambique. Now there's a unit, 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.920 and I read a wonderful book. Three SIPs of Gin 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:52.440 is the name of the book. Three SIPs of Gin 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:54.880 is the name of the book. Three SIPs of Gin 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:58.960 is the name of the book. Anyway, about this unit 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:03.200 I've mentioned before, called the Cellas Scouts or Selu Scouts. 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:08.120 They were in elite unit, as I mentioned, more than 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:10.480 half of them, and that's going to matter for Operation 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:15.560 Elan's purposes. More than half of them were Black Africans. 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:19.400 Many of those Black Africans were actually recruits. They had 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:23.400 been communists and then they got recruited and they joined 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:27.600 the cellas scouts. This unit did more things that I 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:29.639 could ever lay out than I even know. I mean, 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:32.040 I've only read a few books on the subject. They 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:35.160 were always tracking people. They were doing they were posing 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:41.240 as warlords, they were poisoning cigarettes. They were the clandestine 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:44.240 find a way to find them and kill them unit, 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:51.280 and they came up with an operation. Uh gutsy is 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:55.040 just one way you would describe it. You see, there 0:18:55.160 --> 0:19:00.600 was this large communist training camp in Mozambique. Here is 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:06.399 what happened. These sellers scouts knew when the troops would 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:09.879 gather for formation. I believe there were a couple thousand 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:13.520 troops when they would gather for formation in this space 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:18.480 in Mozambique. Here's what they did. They gathered up in 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:23.760 a bunch of armored cars. Armored cars designed armored cars 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:27.280 that were the same cars that the terrorists would be using. 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:32.360 Keep in mind cars that had gigantic machine guns on them. 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:36.080 I won't break down the details of these machine guns. Also, 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:39.320 cars that it's hard to see inside an armored car, 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:45.920 is it not. These Sellu scouts used their black members 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:50.800 and they put terrorist uniforms on them, so they looked 0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:54.040 like the communists terrorists, and those were the ones who 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:58.200 were the drivers and the turret gunners, of course. And 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:02.360 they drive up to the gate of this communist training 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:07.760 camp in Mozambique while all the terrorists are on the 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:11.480 parade ground for formation, and of course they get stopped 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:13.240 at the gate. The communist said, wow, what are you 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:16.199 doing here? And they pull that thing you've seen in 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:19.960 the movies a thousand times. They say, I'll have you arrested. 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:23.800 What are you doing stopping me? You peon, I'm general whatever, 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:27.119 I'm colonel whatever. I'll cut your hands off. Of course 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:30.000 it's some I'm sure it's some twenty year old idiot 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:33.639 kid at the gate. Well wow, sorry, you guys, go ahead. 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:40.280 They drive these armored vehicles into the base. They are 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:45.639 outnumbered on this base sixty to one. They are not 0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:50.560 only outnumbered sixty to one. May I repeat myself, they 0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:54.720 are in a totally different country. They are in Mozambique, 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:59.080 they are not in Rhodesia. They pull the armored vehicles 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:04.000 with the heavy machine guns onto the parade ground. The 0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:07.480 troops who are on the parade ground, remember there's a 0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:10.919 couple thousand of them, They want to know what's going on. 0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:16.960 They began to gather around the armored vehicles, at which 0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:21.760 point in time the signal is given and the heavy 0:21:21.800 --> 0:21:26.639 machine guns open fire on the defenseless terrorists on the 0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:32.000 parade ground and they start chopping these guys up like cord. 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:43.320 They slaughter the African terrorists, no deaths on behalf of 0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:46.440 the cellas scouts. When they've done what they can do, 0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:50.720 they peel rubber in their armored cars and drive out 0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:54.640 of the base all the way back to Rhodesia. One 0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:59.680 of the most bold, brilliant military actions I have ever 0:21:59.720 --> 0:22:04.359 heard of in my entire life. A humongous success right, 0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:12.199 and of course widely celebrated in Rhodesia. But as we 0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:19.719 have discussed, there's always a political aspect to war. Always. 0:22:19.880 --> 0:22:23.119 I don't like it, you don't like it. Kill the 0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:28.320 enemies all that matters, but that's not real life. Operation 0:22:28.640 --> 0:22:34.000 Eland as it is called, was a humongous military success, 0:22:34.840 --> 0:22:39.240 but at this point in history, it is a diplomatic, 0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:45.800 a political disaster. Rhodesia is already coming apart. It is 0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:48.920 politically on the outs with the rest of the world, 0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:56.880 and Jimmy Carter's President of the United States of America. 0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:02.760 Operation eland or deifies the entire planet. Think about it. 0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:06.159 A bunch of unarmed Africans. And of course the communists 0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:08.520 say they were all refugees. They don't say any of 0:23:08.560 --> 0:23:11.600 these guys were terrorists or soldiers or gorillas. They act 0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:14.200 like the Rhodesians rode in and mowed down a bunch 0:23:14.240 --> 0:23:19.600 of women and children. Now what's the one friend Rhodesia 0:23:19.760 --> 0:23:26.600 has left on the planet South Africa. After Operation eland 0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:32.199 the world comes down so hard on South Africa. South 0:23:32.240 --> 0:23:39.200 Africa says, hey, Rhodesia, we're out. You are on your own. 0:23:40.600 --> 0:23:44.640 And they leave, and they take their men, and they 0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:53.399 take their planes and they bail. Now it's over, I 0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:58.159 mean at this exact moment. It doesn't end, but this 0:23:58.480 --> 0:24:04.600 ends Rhodesia. They are a land locked country where the 0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:07.600 modern countries of the world have declared them to be 0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:13.400 the enemy, and physically every country now on their border 0:24:14.000 --> 0:24:18.560 is hostile to them. Not only no more trade, most 0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:22.560 of the countries on their border are harboring and training 0:24:22.760 --> 0:24:28.679 and supplying terrorists pouring into their country. Now they know 0:24:29.400 --> 0:24:32.800 it's over, the only question is what do you do? 0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:37.200 So they came up with a couple different plans. There 0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:42.520 was one plan. One plan was to essentially leave the 0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:46.800 country and burn down and destroy all the infrastructure on 0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:50.200 the way out, essentially fight a rearguard action down to 0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:53.359 South Africa where you'll leave and just burn but you know, 0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:57.000 fill up, put concrete in every toilet, rip up every street, 0:24:57.280 --> 0:25:04.200 leave nothing for the Africans. But what happens is they 0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:09.000 agree to have an election, a one man, one vote 0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:13.399 style election the Brits had been pushing for from the 0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:18.520 very very beginning. Well, how do communists operate elections here 0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:21.320 in the United States of America? How'd that twenty twenty 0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:25.880 election go? How do you think Robert Mugabi and his 0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:29.679 political party, how exactly do you think they're going to 0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:34.119 handle an election in Rhodesia. Yeah, let me go ahead 0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:38.240 and spoil it for you, Robert Mugaby with some uh 0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:45.119 shady dealings, if you will takes power in Rhodesia. Now 0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:48.040 we'll just do a couple more sentences on this, thirty 0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:50.760 more seconds, because I think you already know how it 0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:55.160 goes from here. It doesn't go very well. All right, 0:25:56.440 --> 0:26:01.360 hang on, what is the Jesse Kelisha, Oh, final segment 0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:04.440 of the Jesse Kelly Show on this hour. Don't worry, 0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:06.639 we still have an entire other hour. It's just going 0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:10.240 to be our final segment on the Rhodesian Bush War. 0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:17.200 Fast forward. We finally have peace in Rhodesia. Peace doesn't 0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:22.080 go very well. Robert Mugabe and his communists take over 0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:25.879 the government. Now I need to clarify. I said there 0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:28.600 were a couple different plans. The Europeans had. One of 0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:33.240 those plans actually involved now performing a military coup and 0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:35.959 killing them all. But they decided to set those plans 0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:40.359 aside and they walked away. But not all Europeans walked away. 0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:43.120 And I know, given what we're going to know here 0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:47.399 in a moment that probably sounds bonkers. Hey, some angry communists, 0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:50.440 some murderous time, it just took over. Why would you stay? 0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:55.520 Let's remember these are real people, and let's remember you 0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:59.960 might be on your third generation in your family fall 0:27:00.440 --> 0:27:04.960 in Rhodesia. Maybe your grandfather came here eighty years ago. 0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:08.720 It's easy looking back down. It's easy for you, it's 0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:11.280 easy for me to say, hey, you got to get out. 0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:13.880 That may be everything you have it maybe everything you've 0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:17.720 ever known. I mean, you might be fifty five years old. 0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:21.680 What are you gonna do? Go start over. A lot 0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:27.040 of Europeans chose to stay, and Robert Mugabi, who understood 0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:32.680 the world was watching him now, initially tried to play 0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:34.679 it off as if he was just going to be 0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:39.840 a pretty fair guy. Still allowed a few Europeans to 0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:44.679 be represented in the government, didn't immediately start the purges. 0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:48.879 But he's a communist. What do communists do with power? 0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:51.200 Do you think they're different than our than our communists? 0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:54.240 What do they do? They do two things. They reward 0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:59.040 their friends and they punish their enemies. Robert Mugabi begins 0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:02.960 to fill up the government met with committed communists. Robert 0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:07.240 Mugabi also he believes he has two sets of enemies 0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:12.680 in the country, not just the white Europeans. Remember those 0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:18.359