1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Here come the Norse. It's time the Norse up. Last night, 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: it's eighty five, eighty four whatever. Oakland made it seven straight, 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: seven straight years, winning their first game of the Horizon 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: Lague Tournament. Next up a Sunday date versus Green Bay 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: and Indie. The Norse are nineteen and thirteen. From more 6 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: on that, let's welcome in the head coach of the Norse, 7 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: Darren Horney, Coach, Congratulations and man, when I look at 8 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: a box score with five guys in double figures, five 9 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 1: with at least four rebounds, and six with at least 10 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: two assists, that tells me you got a team effort 11 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: last night. 12 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, we really did, Lance and I think we assisted 13 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: on sixty six of our baskets. And heading into the game, 14 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: we told our guys, you know, team rebounding was going 15 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: to be the biggest key because it's been a weakness 16 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: of us for us, and because of how good Oakland 17 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: is at it and did a great job on the 18 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: glass collectively as well, which is what it's going to 19 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: take this time of year to stay alive and keep 20 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 2: it dancing. 21 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: Kelly and I were there Saturday night, watched you guys 22 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: lose a tough one final seconds against Wright State at home. 23 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: But I know you liked the confidence your guys are 24 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: playing with, and Honey, you know this very well. Confidence 25 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: in March can make a team dangerous. 26 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 3: Canon. 27 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean our. 28 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: Goal is always to be playing our best as we 29 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: headed into the tournament, and you take away a bad 30 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 2: offensive half at Youngstown and a tip in against Wright 31 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: State and we've got six wins in a row. I 32 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: think our individuals are feeling better. And the reality of 33 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 2: it is, Lance, we went about three weeks where we 34 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 2: had one or two or three guys missing or in 35 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: and out of the lineup, are not fully healthy, had 36 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 2: to play a little bit differently, dropped some games, and 37 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: so we're just kind of now getting back into our 38 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 2: stride and our comfort level with rotations and guys getting 39 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 2: back to a certain confidence level with the games they missed. 40 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,279 Speaker 1: Boy lj Well's stat sheet stuff for last night, eighteen points, 41 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: eleven boards for us is two blocks, one steal. When 42 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: he's doing all those things, you guys are awfully tough 43 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: to beat, aren't you. 44 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: You know we told him today, Lance that when you 45 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: get double digit rebounds, were undefeated, and you know, if 46 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: you do that, you're gonna score because we're gonna give 47 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: you the ball a lot, a lot of those offensive 48 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: rebounds you're gonna leave the baskets, you're gonna get fouled, 49 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: and so you know, just focus on rebounding the ball 50 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: man and being. 51 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 4: A physical presence of both ends. 52 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: And he did that in a major way last night, 53 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: including what a game to score your thousands point in. 54 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 3: Right, no doubt, no doubt. 55 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: Talking NKU Norris basketball with Darren Horne, you've talked over 56 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: the course of the last number of games about the 57 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: defense getting more locked in diamond. 58 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 3: What has allowed that? What's caused that to happen? 59 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: I think we've been more solid, right, you know, we 60 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 2: were always good at stealing the ball. Even this year 61 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 2: we're top thirty in the country. I think we're twenty 62 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: eight that's up today. Instelling the basketball, that's all of 63 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: college basketball. And you know we've been good with that. 64 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 2: But I think we're just making less mistakes what we 65 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: call discipline things. Our positioning is a little bit better, 66 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: and just you know, making it a little bit harder, 67 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: not giving up as many easy baskets as we were 68 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 2: let's you know, say, eight games ago. 69 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: I'm I got off the air last night. I'm driving 70 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: home listening to the end of the game and I'm 71 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: listening to Jim Kelcher and Rick Broying, and I heard 72 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: you in the postgame, and I was fascinated by Ryan 73 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: Tolliver's appearance last night. Freshman, he played like eight minutes 74 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: over the last month. Last night, he gives you nine minutes, 75 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: a couple of points, five boards to assist. I think 76 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: he was plus twelve. What was that a hunch? Was 77 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: that a matchup? How did that come about? 78 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 4: It was a little bit of both. 79 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 2: You know, analytics are important, but sometimes the old ball 80 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 2: coach I feel right last but you know. 81 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 4: He played well against him. 82 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: He'd been forced to play because all of our injuries 83 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: the last time we played him and played really well. 84 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: And again we thought the biggest challenge going to the 85 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: game was rebounding. And let you know, let's not make 86 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: this too complicated or over analyzed numbers. Bigger guys that 87 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 2: grabbed the ball well usually rebound better than smaller guys 88 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: that don't write, And so we thought we might have 89 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: to play bigger at one point last night, and just 90 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: felt a little bit better about where he was with 91 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: what he could flip and do on the offensive end 92 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: as well. He's a really skilled kid, very high basketball 93 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: like you for a freshman, and we just felt like, 94 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: even though he hadn't been playing, he was the best 95 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: fit for those extra minutes in license last night's game, 96 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: and man, did he come through five boards and nine 97 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: minutes for a freshman in that setting. 98 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 3: It's pretty impressive, no doubt, no doubt. 99 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: And it's probably easier to deal with this today since 100 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: you won. But just the sound of what Brody Robinson 101 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: was doing last night, listening to the game and where 102 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: he was shooting from. He hits ten threes, ten of 103 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: twenty threes for thirty six points. 104 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 3: What a performance against you guys last night. 105 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 4: Unbelievable. 106 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 2: You know, sometimes in those games it's not called we 107 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: should have done this or we could have done that. 108 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 4: You know, what do we want to learn from it? 109 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 2: The reality of it is that was as impressive of 110 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: an individual shot making performance late as I've ever been 111 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 2: a part of. We guarded him so well, Lance, and 112 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: the kid just hit some unbelievable shots, and the challenge. 113 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 4: Is if you go double him. He led the league 114 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 4: in getting. 115 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 2: Fouled, So you don't want to put yourself in a 116 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: situation where you can foul it and put them at 117 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: the line with the clock stopped and all of that 118 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:03,239 Speaker 2: as well. 119 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 4: And so kudos to that kid. 120 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: And really, you know, had we just made a few 121 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: more free throws, even those wouldn't have mattered in terms 122 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: of the final outcome of the score not being bigger, 123 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 2: but unbelievable performance by that kid. 124 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 4: Give them credit. 125 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: Next up Sunday in Indianapolis against Green Bay, third time 126 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: meeting three point thirty tip. I believe they got you 127 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: the first two times, but by a combined is five 128 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: points including overtime. 129 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 3: What's the key this third time? 130 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's the same thing as last night. 131 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: I think we've got to come to play well defensively, 132 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 2: you know, from top to bottom. We got to do 133 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: the job on the glass. You know, we just can't 134 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 2: give them easy baskets. They're really skilled team to do 135 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: a great job of getting to the foul on they're 136 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: capable shooters. But I think when you add to it 137 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 2: as well that they're getting some easy putbacks, that's what really. 138 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 4: Puts these teams over the hump against system. 139 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 2: So I think we've got to have a really good 140 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 2: rebounding night above all else. 141 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: You guys, let's see that was a late night list time. 142 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: Did you guys come back last night or spend the night? 143 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 4: No? 144 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 2: You know, we we actually have a sleep expert, a 145 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 2: local guy who's got the highest level of training, Oxford 146 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 2: trade doctor Dave Meyley, who works with our team. And 147 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 2: you know, we felt like staying and getting a good 148 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 2: night's rest was more important than than hurting back and 149 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 2: getting back at three am. So we actually stayed in Detroit, 150 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 2: got great sleep, and bus back today, had a little 151 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 2: film meeting and then we'll get back to assiscoly tomorrow. 152 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: I love that and it's probably something that the average 153 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: fan wouldn't think of. They they think numbers and analytics, 154 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: But there's a lot to go that goes into keeping 155 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: your team fresh and ready to go, isn't there. 156 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: We're looking for any edge that we can get, man, Well, 157 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: we'll take anything. 158 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: How are you on a bus ride back? Do you 159 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: are you watching tape? Are you playing cards? 160 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 3: Deals? And in the music? How are you on buses? 161 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 2: Mostly mostly watching the film you know on your laptop. 162 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: Coaches sit at the front, a lot of discussion about, 163 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: you know, kind of what's next, both schedule and game 164 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: plan and all of those things and any thing else 165 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: that needs to be addressed in our program. And then 166 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 2: it's good time to catch up on phone calls you 167 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: need to make as well. 168 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 3: There you go. 169 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: Well keep that Jim kelch and Rick Browing in line 170 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: and best of luck this weekend. 171 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 4: All right, Well, we get the best radio team in 172 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 4: the business. Those guys are great. 173 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: If our record could be reflected by their work would 174 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: be undefeated. 175 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: Brother very well said, good catching up, coach. Congrats last night, 176 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: Best of luck Sunday. 177 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 4: I appreciate you, thanks man, take care. 178 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: There you go, Darren Horne love Norse it up with 179 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: the coach of the n KU North eighty five eighty 180 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: four winners at Oakland last night, seven straight years, winning 181 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: the first game, their first game of the Horizon League Tournament. 182 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: It'll take on Doug Gottlieb's Green Bay team, and what 183 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: a turnaround they have made under Doug Gottlieb. But I 184 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: believe they won four games last year and are I 185 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: should have it pulled up before I even say it here. 186 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: I will pull it up to confer to refer to 187 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: it here a year ago, of course. Doug Gottlieb, former 188 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: National Sports talk radio host was hired to take the 189 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: job and continue to do radio. Well, you can imagine 190 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: the difficulties with that, and it played out that way. 191 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: They went four and twenty eight last year, gave up 192 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: the radio gig, focused on coaching in Boom Green Bay 193 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:18,559 Speaker 1: eighteen and fourteen. Two matchups previously again a three point 194 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: game and a two point game, one of those in 195 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: overtime to beat the Norse. NKU had lost their two 196 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: matchups going into last night against Oakland and avenged and 197 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: got the third one. 198 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 3: Tried to do the same thing on Sunday in Indie. 199 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 3: All right, let's see have the Reds gone? I should 200 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 3: have this pulled up as well. It is now a 201 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 3: final Wait a minute, chaos is unfolding. That looks like 202 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 3: ree Hines and it looks like a winner. I'm not 203 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 3: doing live play by play. That wouldn't be allowed, but 204 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: this is a replay and that looks like Reese Hines 205 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 3: has clobbered what would have been what a three run 206 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 3: home run and the Reds have walked off the Dodgers. Unbelievable. 207 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 3: What a day there were What is that nine or ten? 208 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 3: That's ten home runs? Reese Hines hits a three run 209 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 3: home run or was it a Grand Slam? 210 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: That's what I get for nose, the three run home 211 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: run and the Reds win fourteen thirteen the final score. 212 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: What do you say we come back and listen to 213 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: the highlights from the game today. 214 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 3: And I'll make sure we toss in that one as well. 215 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: It's Arnel Carrier Sports Talk, presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven 216 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: hundred WLW