WEBVTT - 10-15-25 Scott Sloan Show 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:04.480 American wait to midweek. Here we go Scott Sloan back 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:08.840 on seven hundred W wellw he called it intolerable. One 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:11.480 of the latest, the longest list of adjectives I've ever 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:14.240 heard about crime in Cincinnati. The new one is intolerable. 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:16.239 That would be your adjective of the day, is what 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:20.320 mayor have to have. Puerval called the violence downtown the 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:23.600 back to back shootings on Fountain Square and says significant 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:26.439 changes are coming after all that. So we're going to 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:28.760 see swat on Fountain Square. We're going to see the 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:32.520 Civil Disturbance Response Team whatever that is, on Fountain Square, 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:35.240 and it's going to look like parts of Gaza. Chief 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:38.159 Terry Thiji is commanding her officers to make contact with 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:40.680 people for even the most minor offenses. That's called the 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:45.199 broken windows theory of policing, which is just absolutely as 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:48.640 sailed for years by progressives, is just punching down on 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:52.159 people and stopping them and causing distrust in the community. 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:54.319 And now, guess what turns out that strategy might work 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:58.080 a little bit. Huh. But before the Mayor's Presser Council 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:01.400 had a public safety hearing yesterday, it was really hard 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:04.520 to hear that, and you could hear the frustration from residents. Listen, 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:07.800 I am not able to tell future tenants since they 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:08.800 would be safe. 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:11.119 I've been down the district to a couple times myself. 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:13.399 I just don't feel like we're getting the results that 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:15.160 we need to make our tenants feel safe. 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:17.400 It feels like something has shifted. 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:20.600 Two of our best friends who live in the neighborhood 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:21.480 have decided to move. 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:24.600 The violence has just gotten out of control. 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:29.320 Honest and more is council member Anna, I'll be with 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:31.640 law in public safety. She sits on the committee and 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:35.760 sat through that difficult testimony yesterday, Anna, good morning, how 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:37.240 you been by? 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:37.720 Good morning? 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:38.520 Thanks got me. 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:39.160 I appreciate it. 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:41.480 Yeah. Well, your reaction when you're sitting there listening to 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:45.440 all these people say, look, I have his investment of property, 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:48.480 and I'm a landlord who I feel him is imagine going, hey, 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:51.360 I have people who won't rent because they afraid they're 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:53.240 going to get shot, or someone has said, hey, listen, 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:55.960 my circle of friends, they're all moving out because they've 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:58.880 got small kids, or they just fear their safety. That 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:01.000 was some of the most compelling testimony I think I've 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:03.560 heard in a long time, and it shows you how 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:05.840 far gone things are. What was your immediate reaction. 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:10.480 Well, immediately in the moment, I made sure my staff 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:13.960 got all those folks contact information, and I was taking 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:17.160 diligent notes. You know, I take all of this very 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:21.600 very seriously. You know, public safety, making sure people feel 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:24.239 safe is my number one priority, and I know that shared. 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:28.360 So I followed up afterwards with the city manager and 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:31.120 the police chief listing out the issues that we heard. 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:34.000 I took notice on the exact location, so you know 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:36.880 we're going to take action here. I also spoke was 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:39.680 the assistant police chief yesterday about another issue that was 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:43.880 brought to my attention. So we're really taking action here 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:48.200 and using police based solutions to really dig into what's 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:51.160 happening in this specific spot to make sure that we 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:54.960 can everyone feels safe, feel safe in our safe right. 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:56.519 It's exception plus reality. 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:59.520 I'm here with the grape Vines about well, we heard 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:02.880 this morning about Jeff Ruby's Lempica, which used to be 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:05.160 the main location in the art deco restaurant on Seventh Street, 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:08.000 and they've now turned that into an event space. Actually, 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:09.280 I was at a wedding there a few months ago 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:11.480 and this absolute spectacular is way over the top. It's 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:14.639 so nice. They're closing that location and mainly a beef 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:16.800 with the landlord with Town Properties, which I get because 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.400 they there's some safety issues like doors not being locked 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:21.040 and things like that, and so we don't feel safe 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:24.160 and our businesses compromise. So we're closing that up despite 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:25.960 a huge investment in that. Don't know what it's going 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:27.800 to become in the future, if anything, but that's a loss, 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:31.400 and they're moving their business operations to Walnut Street. But 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:34.400 you know, behind these scenes, I guess they're hearing rumors 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:37.800 that there's maybe some threats there, saying, hey, we if 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:39.800 we got gun you know, people shooting each other on 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:43.720 Fountain Square across from our beautiful flagship restaurant on Fountain Square. 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:46.240 And now we've had the shooting the other we had 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:48.920 what two shootings in the last few days on Fountain Square, 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:51.800 like right in front of Rubies. That's not a place 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:53.520 where people are gonna feel safe coming to our client. 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:54.960 Tell it's not gonna be safe. We're gonna have to 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:58.520 we're gonna have to move. Losing that would send I 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:01.640 think a tuttle wave of problems for those who sit 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:03.560 on council and those who seek to be re elected 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:05.840 or elected might be a good thing for them. But 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:08.520 I don't know if that's true or not, Anna, but 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:13.320 that that's really really telling there. If we have flagship restaurants, 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:16.120 if we have the culinary name in Cincinnati going, we 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:18.200 can't be in Cincinnati. You lost. 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:24.400 So I can't comment on you know, the speaks of 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:26.680 landlords or any of that details. I know probably as 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:30.480 much as you reading in the press. But again, this 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:35.440 council and mayor and administration, we're truly taking action. You 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:38.440 heard yesterday from the slice chief and the mayor new 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:44.000 plans around Sountain Square, both from looking at transportation patterns, 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:46.400 what we need to do to kind of spread out 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:51.120 the people and make sure that we have better coverage, 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:55.200 also bringing in additional support from law enforcement. So that 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:57.120 is the work we're doing. I mean, I think what 0:04:57.240 --> 0:04:59.880 was most shocking to me was the most recent recent 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.720 is it. Where's the fact that we had four officers there? 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:03.200 Yep? 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:07.120 Right, and that's that's just shocking behavior. I think we 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:09.839 all just have to name it that that is insane. 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:10.160 Right. 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:13.680 However, many years ago, knowing that four officers were a 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:15.680 matter of yards away from you would have been at 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:19.080 the turrent. So you know this, this is a new level, 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:21.679 and we are stepping up to the plate to provide 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:26.680 more resources, new resources, partnering with the governor, partnering with 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:29.760 the sheriff's office, doing all of that work to really 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:31.360 try to tackle what's happening. 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:35.200 But isn't that an indication Anna that it's too far gone? 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:36.679 I mean that that you know, it's not like everyon's 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:40.279 gonna pull up stakes. But you know, all this action now, okay, great, 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:44.680 but if the bad guys aren't obeying law enforcement, there's 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:46.839 a cop standing right there, I'm gonna shoot at you anyway. 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:50.320 All the adjectives, all the superlatives, all the patrols, all 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:53.120 the curfews. What you're saying is it hasn't done anything 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:55.800 to stop the violence. And that then tells me that 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.880 we moved that that our leaders moved way too late 0:05:58.920 --> 0:05:59.279 on us. 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:02.520 You know, here, here's what I would say. It would 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:05.960 be really helpful if we had support from the state 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:09.000 in terms of laws, because there are too many guns 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:10.560 on our street. And you know, I'm going to talk 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:12.920 about this all day. It is too easy to get 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:17.200 firearms legally and too we can get them easily illegally 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:20.080 as well. And so it'll be really great if Ohio 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:22.760 had some stronger gun laws or we could actually go 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:26.320 after getting somewhere climbs off the street harder. And you 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:28.000 know that's part of the work of the Crime Gun 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:31.559 Intelligence Center, and we partner with the APS with local 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:34.640 law inslacement, the Ohio State Controls helping us with us like, 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:36.360 there are too many guns, and I think we just 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:39.160 all need this acknowledge are too many guns on our streets. 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:41.960 And that is why I'm really passionate about we need 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.640 stronger laws at the state level, hopefully at the federal 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:47.360 level that actually empower us to go get the firearms 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:48.520 pot of the handle games. 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:48.719 With the people. 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:50.640 Yeah, let me push back on that. A couple of points. 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:53.440 Number one would be we have federal laws. The law 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:56.320 says if you are a felon and you you're carrying 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:58.719 a gun, you've now escalated that you go to prison. 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:01.680 And yet we have judges ardi progressive judges that see 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:03.800 juveniles and see people go, oh, you got a gun. 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:06.240 You're not supposed to have a gun. You cut your ankle, bonder, Yeah, 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:08.120 you're good, go ahead, It's fine, we'll catch it a 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.679 later date. I mean, weep. You keep calling for tougher laws, 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.960 but you're not enforcing the laws of the books. Why 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:16.200 aren't we getting tougher with people who are who end 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:17.800 up getting jammed up with a gun and they right 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:20.440 out of a felony. That's that's called having a gun 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:23.400 and disability. And I'm sorry, but we have judges in 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:24.640 Cincinnati that allow that. 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:28.760 Hey, our judges are making sure that laws are performed 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:29.480 and executed. 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:32.280 Are they're not? Otherwise they wouldn't have this. 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:36.960 Hey, agree to disagree on this one, right, That's that's fair. 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:40.680 But you know, at the end of the day, I 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:43.000 think we have too many guns. I support the work 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:46.320 of our Crime Intelligence Center going after those because it 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:49.800 was shocking to me to watch the video in the 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:53.040 prep sumping gestrict with the police chief and how casually 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:55.760 someone was able to just pull gun out, shoot shoot 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:58.400 at people and walk away. Right, That's that's horrific. 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:01.160 We can all because they know there's now consequences if 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:01.560 I do that. 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:05.880 Well, I mean officers are on the scene pretty pretty quickly, right, 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:08.720 So like now it's a matter of putting together the 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:11.040 case and going through with that and that again, that 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:13.120 is where we have to do often to the job 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:16.920 from the city perspective of putting together strong cases so 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.520 our judges have all the information. And frankly, we're doing 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:23.360 work to working with the judicial system on improving our 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:26.080 technology in the courtrooms making sure that information is more 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.680 readily available that we had that we were able to 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:31.280 provide all that case information. So here's the I'm the 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:34.400 only only kid in my family who's not a lawyer. 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.600 My brother is actually a prosecutor in the Federal Office 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:41.000 and VC. But you know these lawyers, you know, having 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:43.560 making sure the prosecutors have all the information that day 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:45.559 in front of them with technology, that is a big 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:48.040 challenge right now. So we are working the city puts 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.199 dollars together and there's a whole kind of task force 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.559 with our judges where we're making sure that we're empowering 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:56.560 our judges and our prosecutors and our officers with all 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:58.720 the technology to make sure all that information is at 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:01.320 their fingertips when need decisions for being made out the court. 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:03.200 But the problem is they're not. And you know, I 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:05.400 don't think gun laws may do something in the future, 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:08.199 probably not, because any I think The other element of 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:12.000 two analoby is how are the people, especially juveniles, getting guns? Well, 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:14.120 they're breaking into cars. Well, why are people live in 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:17.040 guns and cars? Is because I think a couple of things. 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:18.640 Number one would be there's a lot of places we 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:21.559 are not allowed to carry by law, and so I say, hey, 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:24.240 I don't feel safe in Cincinnati. If I come downtown, 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:26.520 I'm gonna come with a gun. I'll come heavy and okay, 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:28.160 if I got to go somewhere to leave in my car, 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:31.600 I think that's just a It's like a self fulfilling prophecy. 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:33.679 The more unsafe people feel, the more they feel they 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:35.320 need to arm themselves. They can't bring it in, so 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:37.400 they're leaving the car, which encourages people to break into 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:38.559 cars and steal guns. 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:41.520 You know, I have talked about secure firem storageing cars 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:43.200 and force. So I know, no, this is a place 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:45.680 where we can both agree in terms of making sure 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:48.440 that you know, if a gun, if you're bringing it downtown, 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:50.640 but sure legal right, let's have it locked up right. 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:53.920 So we're doing a couple of things. One, we're increasing 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:57.360 our requirements when it comes to parking garages and parking 0:09:57.400 --> 0:10:01.520 lots on what's needed in terms of better lighting, camera, landscaping, security. 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:03.960 And then we're also going to have PtD go out 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.880 and provide a feeding system for all those garages. So 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:10.120 you as I responsible suchizens driving downtown to say, oh 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:12.600 because of an ADC or D whatever the scale is, 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:15.560 this is a safe place that's meeting the security requirements. 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:17.960 This isn't right, So caret and a stick approach. But 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:20.160 in addition to that, I've been working with CPD and 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:23.960 we've started handing out gun safe for cars. At the 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:27.400 last few home bangals games, that's the home most opener. 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:30.199 We had over seventy seven people come up and grab 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.880 a gun law. And so that's the work I'm trying. 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:35.839 To do it. As a gun owner myself, I like, okay, 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:37.440 I think you know, I hate more burden that people 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:40.079 like myself because the overwhelming majority, almost all the gunners 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.199 are responsible people. You know, talk about the guns on 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.920 the streets and it's getting out there because responsible people 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:48.280 are tired of de policing and you know, the lack 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:50.920 enforcement of our laws. I got all these laws that 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:54.360 I have to buy buy as a Second Amendment rights holder, 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:57.360 and it doesn't feel like the criminal element cares about 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:00.440 that they're going to rob my stuff. That's the frustration. 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:02.000 But I agree. I think that if you're responsible gun, 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:03.959 there's got to be something relative to making sure you're 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.520 gun when it's stored safely, not just in a you know, 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:09.280 a console or a glove box or into the seat 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:11.280 or sect something along those lines. It has to be 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:13.240 in a physical safe that that should be by rule. 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:15.360 She's council member and I'll be sits on law in 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:19.480 public safety, hearing it from citizens yesterday in a meeting, 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:21.880 people saying what am I going to tell prospective tenants 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:23.160 if they ask if it are going to be safe 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:26.320 downtown and people moving out, and it is unraveling when 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:29.760 you see gunfire on consecutive and what three over the 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:32.599 course of a weekend. Basically we had two shootouts the 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:34.640 other one of the other night where someone who was 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:36.400 sitting at City Bird and someone pulls out a gun, 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:38.720 fires a couple of shots in the window. Still haven't 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:41.040 caught the guy yet, And I think we need to 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:44.160 make examples of these people. I really really do on that. 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:48.360 One of the problems is, as I understand it, as 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:50.360 you understand it too, isn't it like people getting off 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:53.160 at the metro station at Government Square and then that's 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:53.959 where the beats start. 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:59.439 So I think it's lots of you know, people getting 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:01.480 off specifically there, and more of just how do we 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:05.120 spread out kind of the mass of people, if that 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:07.800 makes sense. Right, We have a lot of people coming 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.960 in at once. So that's part of the what the 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:14.160 mayor is working with sorta on is, hey, how do 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:17.080 we kind of distribute these bus routes a little bit 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:20.640 more again, makes it easier for us to have you know, 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:24.120 coverage when it comes to officers and all of that. So, 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:26.480 you know, I'm not I just want to be really clear. 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:28.760 There is no part of this so they're saying that 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:31.720 people use our wonderful public transportation or criminals. That's not 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:33.920 what we're saying. But we're trying to use some place 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:37.200 based problem solving here, right, And if we're seeing, you know, 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:40.360 kind of a cluster of issues happening around one space, 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:43.679 how can we spread out the people the bodies right 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:46.920 to maybe just use some of the conflicts because what 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:49.439 I'm under how I understand it is some of these 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:52.520 are starting as personal talk with right, Like people are 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:56.040 getting into fights and unfortunately they're armed and that's vuccivating. 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:58.560 That's that's what the last two we're talking about worst, 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:01.400 you know, just stupid street between people who knew each other. 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:05.280 Yeah, I mean, and that's where some of the reflections 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:08.120 I've been doing frankly, over the past day and a half, 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:10.880 it's been it's just been around, how do we, you know, 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:15.440 teach conflict resolution. I know that sounds maybe very basic, 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:20.200 but you know, how do we help people even starting 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:22.160 in our schools, and these are conversations I've had with 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:25.320 our school boards, start kind of teaching conflict rushes at 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:28.040 a young age so people can learn how that's turned 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:31.160 down the temperature, sure, because it's just it's just you know, 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:32.160 too easy. 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:34.200 Well, yeah, that's true of all of us. But that 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:37.120 doesn't fix the now we have. You know, we have 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:39.839 adults acting like toddlers and they have guns, and that's 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.800 the unfortunate part. My point is, and maybe something that 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.520 should be explored is I'll be honest with you, I 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:47.600 and when I talk to cops and others saying, you know, Metro, 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:50.880 it's like this funnel and not you're certainly not everyone 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:52.920 who's ride the Metro that most people are just trying 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:54.720 to get from point A to point being lived their lives, 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.160 but you've got criminal elements on there, kind of looking 0:13:57.160 --> 0:13:59.839 for trouble. We've heard horror stories about metrobuster evers getting 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:02.240 shot and everything else. And it largely centers around Metro, 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:05.960 the Government Square station, and it's such a critical area 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:09.520 to our infrastructure that's now spilling over to Fountain Square itself. 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:12.719 You know, we have the Fort Washingtonway underground garage. It's 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:14.720 not going used. And I know the cry was, well 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:17.400 it's too far from Fountain Square. You know what you need. 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:20.640 I'm sorry, but if for me I've closed that Government 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:22.920 Square Metro station, I'd make it a stop. I'd move 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:26.200 everything to Fort Washington Way. You have an entrance and 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:28.680 egress points. You can monitor that with cameras. You could 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:32.480 have gun spotder technology, face technology. You have a confined 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:34.720 area that you can easily police and shut it down 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:36.840 if you have to, and you can control who's coming 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:39.200 in and coming out. More importantly, keep an eye on 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:41.600 people and lock it down if you have to. To get 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:43.640 a bad guy with a gun and then run, I 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:45.960 don't know, run a shuttle or a bus that looks 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.040 like a trolley to Fountain Square to get people there. 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:50.360 It just seems to me like you got to get 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:53.040 that Metro station at Government Square is a problem. I 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:54.440 think we got to shut that down and move it. 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:59.400 I think everything worth discussing. For now, it's the kind 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:02.960 of changing the route to disperse that kind of cluster 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:05.360 Government Square, So you know, that is a step in 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:08.880 the right direction. Again, I want to make sure that 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:11.640 in this conversation we're not dehumanizing people run the pride 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:13.800 of the bus because you know, personally, I feel very 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:17.280 passionately that we have a working public transit and infrastructure 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.240 because it's important right how most people are just getting 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:21.320 to their jobs, and it's also how in some of 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:24.000 our kids are getting to schools, people getting to you 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:24.600 know whatever. 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.240 Fund Well, they don't deserve all this. That's the point 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:30.120 you're trying to protect them. We're trying to protect them 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:33.200 by saying, hey, listen, we'll just run We'll run a 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.640 shuttle to Fountain Square for those people, another bus to 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:37.240 Fountain Square. It doesn't seem that hard. 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:42.160 Yeah, again, I'm open to all these conversations with Metro. 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:44.720 You know, they they are the experts on their bus routes. 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:47.280 But for now that we are working collaboratively with them 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:49.400 on this kind of first step to this verse, those 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:51.840 bus routes try to spread out the crowd to your 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:54.360 point of like what we have too many people kind 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:56.600 of concentrate on one spot and just one of those 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:58.640 people have to be up to no goods to cause 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:01.400 sify issues for everyone else. And I think that also 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:04.560 comes with frankly, you know, for officers who are down there. 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:07.120 You heard from the Chief yesterday talking through art we 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:08.960 got we got to be alert, right, We've got to 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:12.400 have our eyes out open for what could be happening. 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:15.360 And that's to where you know, we have community advocates 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:18.560 who are down there and you know, learning simple kind 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:21.400 of this is what a body language triggers of like 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:23.480 oh that could be turning into a fight. For being 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:25.880 much more aware and picking up on that faster. And 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:28.120 that's what I heard from the chief right yesterday and 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:30.960 her remarks with the press conference is Okay, we a 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:32.800 CPD are going to step up here. We're going to 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:35.280 be watching out for that a lot more. And you know, 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:38.600 again using our composts, resition, be escalation skills to make 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:41.880 sure that those personal fights are not turning into gunfire. 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:42.440 Right. 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:44.080 That's ultimately where we got. 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:45.640 I'll be honest with you. I mean, we can teach 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:47.960 it in the schools and all that stuff, but I'm sorry, 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:50.440 there's a there's a percentage of the population that are 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:53.080 freaking animals. What we saw yes to what we were 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:57.560 talking about. He is animalistic, predatory, sociopathic behavior. There's people 0:16:57.560 --> 0:16:59.720 out there that are worth saving, but there's some that aren't, 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:01.040 and we we've got to come to terms of that 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:03.680 and segregate them for society because all this, we've got 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:06.080 to change them and thick that might happen in another 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:08.480 generation or two maybe, but probably not. But we've got 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:10.280 to address to here and now. The people that are 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:12.520 shooting on Fountain Square. I' mean a guest that the 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:15.160 guy who fired the shots at City Bird probably shouldn't 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:16.639 have had that gun in the first place, and I 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:19.320 would I question the need for more laws if we 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:22.040 don't take those people off the streets the minute they 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:23.840 use a gun and commission of a crime. 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:29.199 You and I have no disagreement on people who shouldn't 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:32.200 have guns. It should and shouldn't have guns. Right if 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:34.520 someone's going to be using a firearm that lately for 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.200 criminal activity, should not have a gun. And that's again 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:39.040 why I go back to it would be really great 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:42.000 if we actually had background check on every single gun 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:44.960 sale beyond just the certified sellers, but you know Facebook, 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:48.000 gun sales, things out of people's trunks all that, so 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:51.320 we could actually be able to have, you know, a 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:53.600 way to enforce, hey, you are a bad guy. You 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:54.520 should not have a gun. 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:55.000 Right. 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:58.560 And then in terms of the hearing, now, that is 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:01.000 why we are pulling out all the stops, in terms 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:05.360 of our local CPD, working on patrol, bringing in reinforcement 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:08.840 from Ohio State Patrol right to really be out there 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:11.640 in the community, watching out for these instances and hopefully 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:13.240 intervening before they accalate. 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:15.840 Let me, I've got just a second here, and I 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:18.280 appreciate it. Back on that in the Highway patrol, that's 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.520 a really good point is from what we heard is 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:23.280 you know, the governor reached out some time ago and 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:26.159 we're still waiting for Okay, I guess the Highway Patrol 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:27.639 is going to come in, and now we have all right, 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:30.120 we had another shooting and so now we have SWAT officers. 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:33.160 It looks like parts of Gaza now on Fountain Square 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:36.320 and this guy I don't know. It seems like, okay, 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:38.440 now we're doing that and the optics that are tough, 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:41.399 But why why don't we if we just brought troopers 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:43.600 into enforced the highways, we could have regular cops, more 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:45.960 of them on the street. Why are we fighting against 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:47.480 the set? Why are we leaning into the state and 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:50.680 having more officers more troopers come in so. 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:53.159 We do have the troopers coming in helping, I'm going 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:54.800 to go back to the crime done. 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:57.040 Because like two days a month or something stupid like that. 0:18:57.000 --> 0:18:58.040 That's what's that going to do. 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:03.879 Of our capacity? Right when we have big busts I 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:06.159 don't know a better technical term than that of you know, 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:08.560 these big investigations to take a lot of man so 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:11.560 having support, but that does free up our GPD local 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:14.800 officers to be out patrolling our neighborhoods. And frankly, I'm 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:16.959 gonna be honest when it comes to kind of patrolling 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:19.720 in our neighborhoods, I still stand by you know, sometimes 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:22.320 Believe has amazing training when it comes to collaborative agreement, 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:25.760 comes to de escalation. They have relationships with our residence too, 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:28.280 and that is very, very important because having that quest 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:30.919 of law enforcement makes a difference when you're interacting in 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:33.199 the neighborhoods. So I stand by all of that, But 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:35.840 when it comes to these bigger operations, yeah, let's bring in, 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:38.680 bring in support and having you know, swat out state 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:41.960 control supporting these like hot spots right now. 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:44.960 Sure, But again it took too long. I mean, that 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:46.680 was something was offered a couple of months ago after 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:49.840 you know, after the brawl and went July, and here 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:52.080 it is, we're almost in the November at this point, 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:53.800 and now we're like, okay, now they're fire, We're going 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:55.320 to get them a couple of days. It just it 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:58.600 just seems like we're I don't know, fighting against law enforcement. 0:19:58.600 --> 0:19:59.919 Then we just turn around, puts a lot of us 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:02.120 on the street. How any different is that than having 0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:03.920 National guardsmen out there? They look the same. 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:09.280 Well, national guardsmen are not trained in our collaborative agreement. 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:11.520 They're not they don't know our people. And frankly, that 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:16.639 the scenes I've seen coming out of Chicago with Ice said. 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:18.240 I'm not saying I have the National guard I'm saying it, 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:19.680 that's what it looks like. It's the same. What's the 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:22.480 difference between local squad offers and that as far in 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:25.199 the court of public opinion. And yeah, I get the 0:20:25.240 --> 0:20:27.440 training element, but I think people see that you see 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:31.080 paramilitary troopers that are either squat or now it doesn't matter. 0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:33.800 You've got guys in tactical gears standing on that Fountain 0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:36.359 Square to intimidate the bad guys. It's the same look. 0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:41.600 I you know, for me, I will say, I don't 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:43.159 think living in a police state, and that's why I 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:44.800 think I'm hearing from me living in a police state 0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:48.000 isn't our perfect version of safety. And I agree, right, 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:50.880 but to your point, like there's a crisis right now 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:53.480 and we're doing everything we can, and if you know, 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:56.280 four cops standing on Fountain Square wasn't enough, and you 0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:59.400 know what's the next step. So it's really a balance here, right, 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:02.080 I mean, I agree, I don't think having a police 0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:05.600 date is is where we want to be. But if 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:08.439 we are, you know, have so many guns in the street, 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:10.600 and we've got to bring in help. 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:12.960 To to de escalate and keep those. 0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:14.879 Guns, you know, out of the wrong hands. We're going 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:17.680 to do it right now because again, like we're taking 0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:20.600 this all very seriously, and I want to follow up, 0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:22.680 go back to where you're started the conversation in terms 0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:25.800 of what we heard from public facey public commenters yesterday, 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:29.359 following up immediately, in fact, I'd already been my O office, 0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:31.160 had already been in contact with one of the gentlemen 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:34.960 and got you know, an email after immediately, and we're 0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:38.959 working quickly here, and I go back to problem solving 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:42.840 and how do we address these issues at the spot right, 0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:43.280 we heard some. 0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:46.640 Weed we needed to and I had to touch off, 0:21:46.640 --> 0:21:48.280 but I got to get going way away over like 0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:51.159 she's conc member and I'll be law in public safety. 0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:52.800 I know we just addressed a lot there, but I 0:21:52.840 --> 0:21:56.199 appreciate your thoughtful consideration and conversation and in the back 0:21:56.280 --> 0:21:58.719 and forth was really good. Hopefully people listen to this 0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:01.119 and and and the right people listen to this, so 0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:03.600 we get some answered soon because this date, I'll agree 0:22:03.600 --> 0:22:06.120 with the mayor. It's intolerable for sure. Hey, all the best. 0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:07.879 Good luck on the campaign. I know you're doing that 0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:10.280 as well, seeking the reelection and council. Anna, thanks for 0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:12.600 coming on the show. Be well, good luck, appreciate it. Thanks, 0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:14.320 take care. We got to get the news, run the light. 0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:16.280 We'll get your reaction to this, so more gun laws 0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:18.520 will solve this. Well, then let's talk about that coming 0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:23.400 up next on seven hundred W them Scott's Loan Here, 0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:26.800 seven hundred WLW. I was gonna have time to get 0:22:26.840 --> 0:22:30.439 to play some of the Terry Thigi audio. It's Cincinnati's Grandma, 0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:35.400 Terry Thigi, and she can tell there's frustration with her too, 0:22:35.400 --> 0:22:38.000 and the press conference after press conference, Scott's Loan here, 0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:41.720 seven hundred WLW, last fight, Anna ol beyond council member. 0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:44.600 I'll be law in public safety, she thought. Through the testimony, 0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:46.399 people saying, look, what am I going to tell my 0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:48.920 tenants people want to rent from me? I own property. 0:22:48.960 --> 0:22:51.800 I'm a business owner, and I need bodies to move downtown. 0:22:51.840 --> 0:22:54.040 I don't need bodies moving away from downtown. What do 0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:56.879 I tell tenants to say? Ask the question am I 0:22:56.920 --> 0:22:58.920 going to be safe? Will I be safe? I don't 0:22:58.920 --> 0:23:03.159 have an answer for that, or people going listen, I tried. 0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:05.640 I mean, I bought into Cincinnati and the urban thing, 0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:07.320 and I just I can't do it anymore. It's just 0:23:07.640 --> 0:23:09.959 the dangers all over the place. And there are people say, well, 0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:12.720 statistically it's fine, Well you don't live in statistics, do you. 0:23:13.080 --> 0:23:16.080 And that's why another reason I hate numbers, I hate 0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:23.560 the statistics it is because of that. It's like, well, yeah, 0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:25.920 I don't live in statistics, man, I know what I see. 0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:28.480 Same thing when you watch a football game, numberrow and 0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:31.280 Joe Flack will make a completion that had a one 0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:33.719 point two percent chance of being successful. Okay, then why 0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:37.240 would you throw that ball? So the numbers are always 0:23:37.280 --> 0:23:39.439 what they are, right, And it's perception. And I'm sorry 0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:42.200 when I see people shooting across Fountain Square at each other, 0:23:43.240 --> 0:23:46.480 when I see some guy recognizing someoney at a beef 0:23:46.520 --> 0:23:48.960 with and he settles beef by pulling out a gun 0:23:48.960 --> 0:23:53.520 and shooting rounds through cityberg Chicken on Fountain Square and 0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:56.840 then runs away like it's just me and him. It's 0:23:56.880 --> 0:24:01.120 our world, you know, the time for the time for 0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:03.879 feel goods. And I'm sorry that's over. You got at 0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:05.679 some point, you got split wigs. That's what this is. 0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:09.399 And Fiji said yesterday and it's about time that what 0:24:09.440 --> 0:24:12.200 they're going to do is restore broken windows policing, which 0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:14.240 basically means we're going after the little stuff. We see 0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:16.800 you jaywalking, we see you smoking a joint, we see 0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:18.679 you doing something that technically is we're going to make 0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:21.320 contact with you. Screw. I was rallying her, feels the 0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:24.480 hell with her, this is what we're gonna do. And 0:24:24.520 --> 0:24:26.320 then how about this other element instead of and she 0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:28.159 proposed that we need more gun laws. We do not 0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:31.800 need more gun laws. We don't need more laws restricting 0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:36.000 the Again, most Americans ninety nine percent plus are completely 0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:40.320 law abiding and use their guns responsibly. And I get it. 0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:42.960 We've got a lot of guns out there because every 0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:45.159 time we propose more gun laws, people buy more guns. 0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:48.280 And the same thing happens in Cincinnati. Okay, well, why 0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:49.560 do we have somebody guns on the street. We have 0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:51.959 so many guns on the street because when people go 0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:55.320 downtown who have to liver work there, they're scared because 0:24:55.359 --> 0:24:57.800 of stuff like this. Because you've ignored the problem for 0:24:57.840 --> 0:25:01.880 so long, Mayor, and and largely progressives and Democrats, you've 0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:03.880 forgotten and you know all the programs and the money, 0:25:03.920 --> 0:25:05.640 we're fun and we're doing well. We can't. We can't 0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:08.359 have ostracized kids. And they're young kids and they deserve 0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:09.840 a chance. I'm sorry, when you pick up a gun, 0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:13.359 your chances are over. Enough of this nonsense, and because 0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:15.439 of all this death and destroy and the threat of 0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:18.119 somebody like Ruby's pulling out of downtown. Can you imagine, 0:25:18.440 --> 0:25:20.720 and people moving out of downtown, And now all of 0:25:20.720 --> 0:25:22.200 a sudden, it's like, well, you know all these feel 0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:24.560 good things that we thought were good in theory in 0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:27.760 reality like that, it doesn't work. So now we got 0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:31.399 to split wigs. Good. We should be doing that. We 0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:33.639 should be doing that. But the idea that we have 0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:35.520 more gun laws, well, okay, great, we have gun laws, 0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:38.000 and people are coming downtown because they're scared they have guns, 0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:40.160 and their signs up saying don't bring your gun anywhere, 0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:42.439 So I leave at my car, and then people are 0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:44.280 breaking into cars because they know that's where the guns are. 0:25:44.520 --> 0:25:47.520 It's a self fulfilling prophecy. How do you end that thing? 0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:50.800 You start making examples of the people are committing gun crimes. 0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:53.280 When somebody cuts an ankle monitor off, you don't wait 0:25:53.320 --> 0:25:54.840 a month, two weeks, a year later and go, well, 0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:56.880 we'll get you. When you get you, well maybe they'll 0:25:56.880 --> 0:25:58.920 turn themselves in. You go and you get a task 0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:03.440 force and you bring them to justice. Like I said, 0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:06.240 how many times is it? This twenty four year old 0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:08.240 it's not his first time at the road. You guarantee it. 0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:10.080 You just don't wake up one day and pull out 0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:11.640 a gun and shoot at someone. They's got to have pride. 0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:15.360 There's no roo almost willing to bet the house that 0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:18.600 that guy is restricted from having a gun. He's under disability. 0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:20.560 I mean he had a prior felony at twenty four. 0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:22.720 He shouldn't have that gun. Well, we got to pass 0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:24.159 laws to make sure people like that. No, what we 0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:25.439 have to do is take people like that and go 0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:27.840 you go to prison for thirty years for that like 0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:31.240 we used to. But then, oh, but you know society 0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:34.239 people are there's backlash and this is what happens when 0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:36.439 you don't do that. It's exactly what happens when you 0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:39.520 don't do that. And now you know they're throwing out 0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:42.119 how many more adjectives? Is aft have pure hole going 0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:46.080 to use? Today's at the adjective it's like Sesame Street 0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:53.040 with Grover not The adjective of the day is intolerable. Yeah, okay, great, 0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:55.120 and tomorrow will be something else, a bond bull or 0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:59.960 you're gonna run out eventually. It's significant changes are coming 0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:02.639 after violence downtown. What are they doing? They're having swat 0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:06.119 in the civil Disturfence Response team and Okay, what we 0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:08.920 don't want is the National Guard here, and we don't 0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:11.000 want the State of Ohio here because it makes us 0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:14.399 look bad. What's the optics of having Thursday night football 0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:16.760 in Cincinnati downtown. They show that shot of Fountain Square 0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:21.159 and what you see are I'm sorry, paramilitary troops that 0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:23.840 are swat officers. There's a bit of a difference there. 0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:26.560 I get that, but I'm sorry someone the average person 0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:30.399 looks at someone an individual who's got tactical gear on, 0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:33.320 got a vest, you're all strapped down, you got your 0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:35.879 tactical helmet on, you got your visors, you're carrying a 0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:39.040 long gun. You're standing on Fountain Square. People see that 0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:40.960 and go paramilitary. They don't go, oh, that's just a 0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:43.800 swat officer versus a National guardsman versus No, they're only 0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:48.359 going to go Cincinnatreie is dangerous AF That's what people think. 0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:50.679 But I'll talk about the fields. Well, we'll use our 0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:53.440 swat officers. They're different and it all looks the same 0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:56.800 to me. Baby. And you guys did this. You did this, AFTAB, 0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:03.840 the policies that you stand behind did this. Five three seven, 0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:07.880 The big one talk back iHeartRadio app and you can 0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:09.600 look at you can also drop that if you're listening 0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:12.640 on the stream extream the show be the iHeartRadio app 0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:14.480 on that is a Harry on the show. Good morning, 0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:19.200 good morning. Uh you heard the words of council Member Anna. 0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:22.240 I'll be on this the shooting downtown. Ruby's may pull 0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:25.280 out at some point if this just kind of behavior continues. 0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:28.680 We have SWAT officers to me, look like National guardsmen 0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:32.120 patrolling our the center of our city. And yet I'm 0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:34.040 hearing about how we need more gun laws and we 0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:36.520 need more programs. Enough of the nonsense. You got to 0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:38.120 start splitting wigs, you know what I'm saying. 0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:43.360 Oh, most definitely. Yeah, I've listening to that conversation. I 0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:47.360 wanted to drive my car off a bridge. The judges 0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:52.480 don't profit. If the judges don't take care of getting 0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:57.120 people off the street when presented with the facts, then 0:28:57.160 --> 0:28:59.640 the number of guns are just going to continue to 0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:00.400 be where they are. 0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:03.640 There's a question somebody, you put them in jail. 0:29:03.680 --> 0:29:04.840 That's a gun off the street. 0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:08.880 But I think, but I've had a gun off the street. 0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:10.480 That's a person who's going to use the gun. And 0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:12.640 commission of a crime off the street. And furthermore, if 0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:14.880 you have someone who has an ankle monitor, they caught 0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:17.160 off and we'll go I'll just catch you later. How 0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:19.880 many more people are going to needlessly become victims of crime, 0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:23.560 and often violent crime and often homicide if we continue 0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:26.280 that behavior. We don't need laws. We need more laws. 0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:28.320 We need to damn enforce the laws that we already have. 0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:34.080 Oh, there's no question. And I wonder if that particular 0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:36.640 council person has ever stood. 0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:38.800 At Government Square. 0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:43.520 At four o'clock in the afternoon and watched what goes 0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:48.000 on there. Herd thing about people are taking the buses 0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:50.240 and getting them off the Government Square primarily to go 0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:55.680 to work. It's a bunch of nonsense. Okay, I worked downtown. 0:29:57.360 --> 0:30:00.280 That's not what goes on on Government Square. Yes, to 0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:02.120 are people that go there to use the buses to 0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:04.840 go to work, correct, But there's a whole bunch of 0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:07.160 other people that are just there. 0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:09.600 Yep, yeah, there are, And you know it does it's 0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:11.920 not all the people. And you know, we're gotta be careful. 0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:14.000 You just shut it down because you have school kids, 0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:16.600 you know, using metro, You have people who are commuting 0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:19.080 using metro, and then of course you have people up 0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:21.600 to no good using Metro And I just don't understand 0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:24.840 why do we have to have that bus station at 0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:27.560 Government Square, Because they the people that are causing trouble 0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:29.480 come out and then they shoot at each other. They 0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:32.520 cause problems. There's violence all the time around that Metro stop. 0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:34.920 It happens all the Why not move the damn thing 0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:37.400 to the Fort Washington Way Garage. It's underground first of all, 0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:39.800 so you stay dry, but you also have you can 0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:43.440 also monitor the entrance and exits, the ingress and egress points, 0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:46.440 and then if somebody does something stupid in there, you 0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:49.480 spot somebody, you could put cameras up there to have 0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:52.280 technology that spots the gun inside your clothing. You can 0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:54.560 have offices there intercepting people. Then if you have to 0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:56.360 lock it down, you've got to point in point B 0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:58.680 to do that, and that's going to deter that crime. 0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:01.240 And if people have to commute to Fountain Square, why 0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:04.040 not run some shuttles that look like streetcars and run 0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:06.520 bus lines to Fountain Square to get the commuters there. 0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:08.320 It seems to me that's where we need to move 0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:10.720 it as away from from Fountain Square and move it 0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:12.640 to an area that can be better monitored. 0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:18.720 Sel you're using logic, and logic doesn't enter into the 0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:22.880 conversation when you're dealing with politicians. All you did is 0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:30.160 word salad with ideas, but no gumption to move on 0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:31.280 these ideas. 0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:34.800 That's the problem. It's also the fear of backlash from 0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:38.760 other progressives that you're just causing more problems and you're 0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:40.960 ostracizing people and you're labeling them. It's more of the 0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:43.960 IRIS rally stuff. Harry, thanks the call to Brian in 0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:46.320 Mount Auburn on the Scottslan share A show seven underd 0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:47.960 W Brian High. 0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:49.360 Hey Scott, how you doing? 0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:51.680 I'm doing well? What you got well? 0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:55.320 We lived down pounds for twelve years and back in 0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:58.400 March we moved to Mount Auburn and a big part 0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:01.080 of that was what was happening downtown. I mean we 0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:04.120 still walk to downtown, we still go support the places 0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:06.760 we always have, but at night we just wanted to 0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:09.480 feel safe when walked in the dog or something like that. 0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:13.440 And listening to the council memory had on when you 0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:16.880 brought up the fact that we're not enforcing the judges 0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:18.280 aren't enforcing the laws. 0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:20.800 That are played that's a huge part of it. 0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:22.800 We have family and that are CPD. 0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:30.360 Yeah, hey, yeah, Brian, Brian, apologize, I'm losing your sales 0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:31.920 fading out there, but I get the crutch with what 0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:33.480 you're saying. I appreciate you listening to show and checking 0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:39.160 in this morning, and yeah, I hear about you know, hey, 0:32:39.200 --> 0:32:42.040 we need to try to reform people and get them 0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:44.640 at a younger Okay, great, but that's that's way down 0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:47.760 the line. You're talking about what five, six, seven, eight 0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:50.000 year olds. I'm talking about twenty four year olds going 0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:53.600 shooting rounds to the window at City Bird. I mean, 0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:55.920 it's a little late for the programs in the fields. Okay, 0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:57.760 let's put that in Stue. I'm a hundred percent with you. 0:32:57.800 --> 0:33:00.520 But when people like that, and I almost willing to 0:33:00.560 --> 0:33:02.400 bet that that twenty four year old gut in the 0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:05.920 white T shirt, that that guy has had priors, that 0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:07.960 they know who that is, that he's going to come 0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:10.200 back and he's gonna have a jacket. I don't know 0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:11.600 how thick it is, but there's gonna be something in 0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:13.040 that jacket. It's going to show you that he shouldn't 0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:15.520 have a gun in the first place. So I'm sorry. 0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:17.520 We need more laws and tougher gun laws. What is 0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:19.680 that going to do for people who simply don't care 0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:21.760 that they're going to shoot someone they had a beef 0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:24.240 with in the in broad daylight. I mean, we had 0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:28.160 a gunfight across Fountain Square to a guy in a 0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:29.680 car and a guy Fountain Square just shooting at the 0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:33.160 guy in the car during rush hour. But how many 0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:35.160 laws did you break right there? Do you think they cared? 0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:38.000 They don't, And that's what we just need. More tougher laws. 0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:40.080 And we got to do something about all these guns. 0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:40.160 Now. 0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:42.400 We got to do something about the a holes that 0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:44.560 are ruined for ninety nine point nine percent of the 0:33:44.640 --> 0:33:47.959 rest of the population. Target them quick, screw their feelings and 0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:49.720 lock them up. I don't care how old they are, 0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:55.000 Get them the hell off the street. Thanks for the call. 0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:56.960 We'll switch it up. We'll get to a news update 0:33:56.960 --> 0:34:01.040 here in just seconds, and then healthcare in crisis right 0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:03.520 now one of my favorite topics to talk about, because 0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:06.640 we're seeing this government shutdown on day fifteen, and there's 0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:08.520 a solution for this thing. Because not shutting down, the 0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:12.600 government's actually legislators doing their jobs, and that is fixing 0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:15.959 healthcare and instead in Democrats and Republicans both the blind 0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:18.839 because Democrats right now are shutting this down because want 0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:21.239 we want more subsidy, and subsidy just means something costs 0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:24.279 too much, and Republicans don't have a plan at all 0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:28.239 to fix health care. How about you do this? How 0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:30.319 about instead of giving money away and ignoring it, why 0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:32.920 do you get together and figure out why our healthcare 0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:34.560 costs so much and how we gets so a little 0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:36.799 out of it? Maybe some answers just ahead with an 0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:39.239 actual physician who sees this first hand. He's next in 0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:44.560 the show seven hundred WWT Cincinnata. We Want It's got 0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:47.439 flown back on seven hundred WLW. As the government shut 0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:51.720 down continues over healthcare subsidies. It illustrates just how broken 0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:56.600 our system is, and not yet uniformly broken, not beyond repair. 0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:59.759 I mean, let's face, it's still an American anything's perspective. 0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:02.759 You know, people still get excellent care, People still come 0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:06.120 here from other countries to get medical care. Medical innovation 0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:09.320 thrives in America. Way times are shorter than in single 0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:11.880 pair systems. But I'm an less face at the cost 0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:16.080 the access the people who are left in and excluded 0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:19.320 from it. That's really the problem that's striving things in America, 0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:23.200 and there's consequences for our broken healthcare system. What it 0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:25.320 means for ordinary families on that is doctor Peter Cowie. 0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:28.560 He's a cardiologist and public health expert and joins the 0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:31.360 show now to discuss on seven hundred WLIW Doctor Kylie. 0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:31.640 Welcome. 0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:33.280 How are you, Scott? 0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:37.360 Thanks for having me and I appreciate the invitation. 0:35:37.640 --> 0:35:40.520 Yeah, And I think this is extremely relevant now that 0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:43.480 we fight over healthcare subsidies and you know, you know, 0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:45.439 there are a number of Americans that are dependent upon 0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:48.480 that and working people who are working multiple jobs in 0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:52.360 order to try and survive today, and they need healthcare. 0:35:52.360 --> 0:35:55.360 It's not provided by their employer, and so ACA fills 0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:57.480 that void. They get high scores for that. But you know, 0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:00.800 to act like somehow it makes it a wartable, it doesn't. 0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:04.360 Because the tremendous amount of subsidy that's at stake here. 0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:07.960 You continue to subsidize things, it distorts what the costs 0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:11.080 really are. And it really it just glosses over a 0:36:11.120 --> 0:36:12.919 broken system in that regard. 0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:18.080 Doesn't it absolutely? You know, we have two populations that 0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:21.680 are at risk here. One is obviously the uninsured, but 0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:26.320 there's a gigantic proportion of our population who are under insured, 0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:30.440 so they have to pay large deductibles, they have to 0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:34.520 pay a lot of out of pocket expenses when they 0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:37.360 seek medical care. Those are the people who are really 0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:39.640 at risk here, and of course, with the reduction in 0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:42.520 the subsidies, their premiums look like they're going to go 0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:43.160 through the roof. 0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:48.080 Yeah, and we have lawmakers breaking away, I mean, Tetle 0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:51.399 Green from Georgia's saying, lo, listen, you know I've got 0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:54.920 family members that rely on subsidies on the Affordable Care 0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:57.080 Act in order to provide they they're working a few jobs. 0:36:57.120 --> 0:36:58.799 I have family members that are like that right now. 0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:01.040 You know this isn't like us against them, and we 0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:03.680 must you know, it's because it's Obamacare. It must be destroyed. 0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:07.320 It's propping up or broken in defunct system, and something 0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:10.440 needs to be done because the future is not looking bright. 0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:12.440 And you're right about that, in failure to treat what 0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:15.800 this really means for ordinary families as things continue the 0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:18.080 way they are. The broad picture on this, though, doctor 0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:21.120 Cowie is Here's what I don't understand, right, is that 0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:24.239 we have a not a good system. Was is what 0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:27.080 Medicare and Medicaid and the Affordable character and Obamacare and 0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:29.719 things are being propped up and subsidized, and it's ugly 0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:32.319 and it doesn't work. The other side of it, it's 0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:35.040 I don't see many ideas come out of the Republicans though, 0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:37.560 when it comes to a better solution for this, other 0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:40.359 than well, you know, it's socialized medicine and we can't 0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:42.760 have that. What's the solution. 0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:48.400 Yeah, so you're entirely correct, we can't. We have a 0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:52.160 patchwork system right now. We have people trying to get 0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:56.080 health insurance in several different directions, and as we've already said, 0:37:56.120 --> 0:38:00.799 at very high costs. It really is going to come down, unfortunately, 0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:04.960 to a debate about whether we should as a country, 0:38:05.480 --> 0:38:10.919 as a civilization here just say everybody has to have 0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:15.160 affordable health care, and in whatever form that's going to take. 0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:18.880 You've heard the term Medicare for all. That may be 0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:21.759 a little bit large in terms of how much that 0:38:21.800 --> 0:38:24.960 would cost and whether it could be implemented. But the 0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:27.080 truth of the matter is that until we get to 0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:30.600 the point that we all agree that this is not 0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:34.799 a luxury, this is a necessity that we need to 0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:37.800 provide affordable health care for all of our citizens. Until 0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:40.880 we grasp that concept, I'm afraid that the system is 0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:41.840 not going to get fixed. 0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:45.919 In the Istean the overwriting story here regards of where 0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:48.000 you stand politically on this, the fact is it doesn't. 0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:50.759 I think everyone agrees in Republican Democrats know that it 0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:52.920 doesn't work the way it is, and it's something has 0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:55.920 to give because we spend what twice as much per 0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:59.120 person on healthcare as other countries who are wealthy and 0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:02.360 something like thirteen thou or thirteen grand per person angually 0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:05.120 spend on healthcare, and a lot of those people don't 0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:07.520 use healthcare. We're talking about younger people who don't use 0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:10.279 healthcare as much as older people do, and we're not 0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:13.680 getting any better outcomes. Number one cause of personal bankruptcy, 0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:18.399 medical bills. That's that's no future for a that's still 0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:19.560 a recipe for future success. 0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:23.160 I should say no, we're spending four and a half 0:39:23.160 --> 0:39:25.560 trillion dollars a year on healthcare in the United States, 0:39:25.880 --> 0:39:29.000 projected in twenty thirty five to be closer to nine 0:39:29.080 --> 0:39:32.440 trillion dollars on healthcare, and yet as you just said, 0:39:32.480 --> 0:39:36.200 and I completely agree. We sit at the bottom in 0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:39.480 ranks of civilized countries in terms of almost any healthcare 0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:43.200 outcome measure you want to use, infant mortality, life expectancy. 0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:50.120 It is not a system that's working, but we have 0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:53.400 the resource. You're preamble by the way, I really appreciate 0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:56.040 it because you're right, you know you can. The glass 0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:59.239 isn't completely empty half empty. There's a lot of really 0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:02.800 good things about our healthcare system. The problem is access. 0:40:02.960 --> 0:40:05.800 The problem is allowing people to get into the system 0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:09.120 so that they can take advantage of this wonderful technology 0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:10.720 and innovation that we have here. 0:40:10.920 --> 0:40:15.040 Yeah, we saw the murder of the CEO of United Healthcare, 0:40:16.000 --> 0:40:18.560 and the reaction that I saw from a number of 0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:21.360 people is sickening that we're celebrating the death of a 0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:23.400 CEO of a company like he is the one driving 0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:26.960 this problem people. And I get it, you know, it's 0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:29.479 a metaphor for the system that's broken. But I don't 0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:33.560 understand celebrating someone's assassination basically is what happened here? What 0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:35.040 does that tell you about where we're in and how 0:40:35.120 --> 0:40:36.920 much of that has to do? And I get it, 0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:40.200 you know, insurance companies and insurers. They stand the most 0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:42.759 to gain by well what the democrats want. A lot 0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:45.000 of this money is going to go to If you 0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:47.880 subsidize anything, what happens is you just it just costs 0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:49.719 you more. College is a great example. You know, we 0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:52.880 subsidize college. Everyone has to go to college free college 0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:56.000 money grants tuition on the thing, and college is raised it. Okay, 0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:58.040 we're just going to charge more because more people have it, 0:40:58.160 --> 0:41:00.480 more money, and it's artificial till you have to pay it. 0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:01.839 The same thing is true here, isn't it. 0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:02.879 Yeah? 0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:06.880 I agree entirely. What you saw with the reaction to 0:41:07.000 --> 0:41:11.839 that unfortunate event is how angry people are. I mean, 0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:13.919 I think what you saw was a reflection of their 0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:19.640 frustration and their anger with dealing with healthcare insurance companies 0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:22.839 that they really don't care about you. I mean, they've 0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:25.279 advertise on television how much they care, and the truth 0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:26.719 of the matter is they don't. I don't know if 0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:30.280 you saw recently, Scott, that a number of companies, including 0:41:30.320 --> 0:41:33.279 Medicare as well, are now going to go to pre 0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:37.359 certification done by artificial intelligence. Now think about that. Think 0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:40.240 about that your doctor orders a test and some computer 0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:42.080 is going to make a decision as to whether or 0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:44.759 not you can get that test done or not. I mean, 0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:48.120 that's the level of the absurdity that's going on with 0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:52.400 pre certification, for example, or denials of care. And in 0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:56.719 the book failure to treat their numerous examples in the 0:41:56.800 --> 0:42:01.520 stories about people who suffered really severe harm because of 0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:05.840 what happens with their medical insurance system as it currently exists. 0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:07.799 Oh, you don't have to look far to find those 0:42:07.800 --> 0:42:10.000 examples that you know, there's the things that you think 0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:11.600 are covered and they try to find a way not 0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:14.080 to cover it, or you know, it's almost a it's 0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:16.319 hard enough when your child, for example, as you know 0:42:16.480 --> 0:42:18.759 doctor Cowie is ill and you're trying to get them 0:42:18.800 --> 0:42:22.200 treatment for something like pediatric cancer, heart or some sort 0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:24.840 of serious illness like that, and then you're waging a 0:42:24.880 --> 0:42:26.920 war with the insurance company on top of that. It 0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:27.800 seems punitive. 0:42:28.719 --> 0:42:33.400 Yeah, And don't believe that the doctors aren't advocating. I mean, 0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:38.560 my office spends almost a full fte just dealing with 0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:43.040 insurance companies to get certification for procedures, and they put 0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:44.799 you on hold for a couple of hours and you 0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:46.759 have to wait there until they've decided to come on 0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:50.000 the phone, and then when they deny something, you have 0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:53.280 to go into a complicated system of trying to appeal 0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:55.799 to appeal the decision, and you have to go up 0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:59.160 in the ladder to what they call a peer review 0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:01.960 and talk to somebody's who may not even be in 0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:05.480 your specialty to make a decision about coverage. So the 0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:09.839 system is rotten. Okay, it's a rotten system, and unfortunately 0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:12.719 we're we've adapted to where we tried to live with it. 0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:14.240 But it has to it has to change. 0:43:14.280 --> 0:43:16.520 Well we've heard that for a long time, though, what 0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:18.440 is going to be the change agent here? Is it 0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:21.600 going to be one extreme case? One extreme example? Kind 0:43:21.640 --> 0:43:23.960 of like you know, when we have a I don't 0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:26.360 know terror attack, everything changed after nine to eleven? Do 0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:29.320 we need like a medical nine to eleven to occur? 0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:30.360 And what would that look like? 0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:34.440 Yeah, yeah, you know, I wonder I wondered this myself. 0:43:34.480 --> 0:43:38.080 You know, I used to think that when the Sandy 0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:41.839 Hook shootings occurred and all those children were massacred, that 0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:44.320 that was going to stimulate change in the gun laws. 0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:48.080 And it didn't. Uh, it almost rised the level of 0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:52.840 absurdity of what you need to do to convince legislators. 0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:54.839 And that's where this has to come from. Right, we 0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:58.480 need we need major changes in our regulation, insurance companies 0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:01.000 and laws. What's it going let's take to get these 0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:03.960 people off the dime and make them understand that we 0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:06.080 need to move forward and make the system better. 0:44:06.160 --> 0:44:09.759 Well, you know, I thought of the Sandy hook, but 0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:13.000 I don't know if I entirely agree that, because there 0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:14.480 you have, Okay, you have a second Amendment. We have 0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:18.040 second membright to arm ourselves and that is a I 0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:20.640 don't think European countries understand the Second Amment, how powerful 0:44:20.640 --> 0:44:21.879 it is and what you can do. And we put 0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:24.839 a lot of laws in place to again keep guns 0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:27.560 out the hands of criminals, but also impacts most people 0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:29.960 don't guns, are law abiding citizens. And there's also a 0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:32.279 mental health component. Use a physician know that, And you 0:44:32.320 --> 0:44:34.840 know what about people who commit domestic violence acts? And 0:44:34.920 --> 0:44:37.000 well we have HIPPA but we can't disclose. And when 0:44:37.000 --> 0:44:39.600 you fill out your federal firearms form, you know you 0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:41.600 may have mental health issues, but you're not going to 0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:43.160 admit it, or maybe you don't know what you think 0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:45.200 the rest of the world's crazier and you're normal, and 0:44:45.239 --> 0:44:47.400 you go, yeah, I'm perfectly fine, and then they go 0:44:47.400 --> 0:44:50.359 on a mass shooting. But there's none of that in 0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:52.239 play here. You don't have that. But when you have 0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:55.480 both sides agree right that the healthcare system is broken 0:44:55.560 --> 0:44:58.200 needs to be fixed, there's no hey, there's an amendment 0:44:58.239 --> 0:45:01.719 that says you're not entitled to healthcare, or there's no opposition. 0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:03.520 Is we all agree the same thing, and yet we 0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:06.279 can't do anything to me. That's the most frustrating part 0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:06.560 about this. 0:45:07.280 --> 0:45:12.520 Yeah, I completely agree that they're not analogy necessarily analogous. However, 0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:17.000 think about this, but the Republicans are denying the fact 0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:22.120 right now. They're denying the fact that cutting Medicaid and 0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:26.040 medicare in the big beautiful bill. They're denying the fact 0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:28.680 that that is going to cause a disaster in American 0:45:28.719 --> 0:45:32.080 medicine when everybody knows that it's going to Hospitals are 0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:35.800 already teeter tottering, right. I mean, the majority of hospitals 0:45:35.840 --> 0:45:40.040 iness country operating in the red. Seventeen percent of hospitals 0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:45.319 last year either bankrupted or came close to bankruptcy. And 0:45:45.440 --> 0:45:49.319 these are royal hospitals, creating these healthcare deserts. I mean, 0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:52.640 if the Medicaid thing goes in to effect and the 0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:57.839 hospitals can no longer rely on that revenue, it could 0:45:57.920 --> 0:46:01.560 actually be a complete catastrophe. Publicans need to know that, 0:46:01.760 --> 0:46:03.080 but they're they're in denial. 0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:06.800 Would that be the medical nine eleven we're talking about. 0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:11.240 I think absolutely, Scott, that that could be the disaster 0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:14.000 that finally wakes people up. But the problem is that 0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:18.120 once it happens, getting reversing it that may take years, 0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:20.600 and people are going to die because of it. 0:46:20.719 --> 0:46:23.200 I have a family in rural Ohio. You listening you 0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:24.799 might have that as well, or like at least you 0:46:24.880 --> 0:46:27.399 know someone because you know, we're in a big city. 0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:30.040 We're in Cincinnati, Ohio. We have Columbus, we have Cleveland. 0:46:30.120 --> 0:46:33.279 We have mid sized cities like Dayton and Toledo and 0:46:33.320 --> 0:46:36.520 elsewhere in our listening area. But the bulk of all 0:46:36.520 --> 0:46:39.520 eighty eight counties are pretty rural in Ohio. And I've 0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:43.879 seen firsthand clinics and hospitals closed because they just don't 0:46:43.880 --> 0:46:46.200 have the people coming in and can't afford the staffing 0:46:46.239 --> 0:46:48.799 and everything, all the compliance and everything else in order 0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:51.600 to operate a modern hospital. There's just it's not profitable. 0:46:52.600 --> 0:46:54.120 And I know a lot of people cringe at the 0:46:54.200 --> 0:46:57.680 state taking over health care, but I don't know, can 0:46:57.719 --> 0:46:59.440 this be? And we tell you, yeah, I look, I 0:46:59.480 --> 0:47:02.400 go all right, well we know healthcare. We've seen hospitals 0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:04.640 closed in rural areas. It's happening as we speak right now. 0:47:04.640 --> 0:47:07.280 It doesn't get to play simply because it's flyover country. 0:47:08.360 --> 0:47:10.600 People lose all their healthcare, they lose all hope. At 0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:12.560 that point, we're going to have people dying of things 0:47:12.600 --> 0:47:16.839 that were easily fixable just weeks and months and years 0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:19.600 ago as opposed to to right now. And at some 0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:21.319 point that it's going to come to a tipping point 0:47:21.360 --> 0:47:23.600 because you're right, these hospitals can't run properable. But you look, 0:47:23.680 --> 0:47:26.080 listen to this can go oy a minute. If every man, woman, 0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:28.560 a child, we're spending like thirteen thousand dollars plus on 0:47:28.719 --> 0:47:31.920 average for our healthcare system. It's not that we're not 0:47:31.960 --> 0:47:33.640 spending money. Where's the money going? 0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:37.040 Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Well what's going into the pockets of 0:47:37.080 --> 0:47:40.480 people Like in private equity for example, they're taken over 0:47:40.520 --> 0:47:42.880 a lot of these hospital systems and managed to bankrupt 0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:45.920 them and close them for profit. But if you recall 0:47:46.000 --> 0:47:47.840 in the book It's a Failure to Treat, there's a 0:47:47.880 --> 0:47:51.759 story about a baby and a parents who were trying 0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:54.400 to get their baby to a hospital in a rurally 0:47:54.440 --> 0:47:57.839 This is an absoluent couple. This isn't just about this 0:47:57.880 --> 0:48:01.200 isn't just about indigen people. This is pre body trying 0:48:01.200 --> 0:48:03.279 to get their baby to a hospital and when they 0:48:03.280 --> 0:48:06.040 pull up to the emergency room, the hospital had closed 0:48:06.520 --> 0:48:08.879 and they ended up having another drive another twenty five 0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:11.239 miles to get to a hospital. By the time they 0:48:11.239 --> 0:48:13.680 got there, the baby was beyond fix sing and died. 0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:16.920 And these are true stories. This is a true story 0:48:17.520 --> 0:48:20.040 of what can happen in our healthcare system. And you're right. 0:48:20.520 --> 0:48:24.080 If that starts happening on a big, high level, big scale, 0:48:24.920 --> 0:48:26.759 it could be It could be the Army Geddon that 0:48:26.800 --> 0:48:27.600 you're talking about. 0:48:27.760 --> 0:48:30.040 Yeah, and I get the private equity element too, But 0:48:30.080 --> 0:48:31.920 they come in and go, hey, listen, you know you're 0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:36.120 not profitable. We'll buy a stake, we'll buy you out, 0:48:36.120 --> 0:48:38.160 we'll take you out. And of course they're about squeezing 0:48:38.200 --> 0:48:40.480 the last remaining dollars out there. And that is the 0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:46.480 nature of how our enterprises, the conditions in which we 0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:50.160 engage in America today, of course, is capitalism, and that's 0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:52.200 the ugly side of it, to be sure. But you know, 0:48:52.200 --> 0:48:54.440 it used to be a government be kind of like 0:48:54.440 --> 0:48:57.040 a referee in these things, and that's long since gone 0:48:57.080 --> 0:48:59.640 away with modern politics the way it is. He is, 0:48:59.680 --> 0:49:03.239 Doctor Peter Cowie's a cardiologists public health expert. Failure to 0:49:03.280 --> 0:49:05.200 treat as the book and where things are headed here 0:49:05.360 --> 0:49:08.880 with our broken healthcare system that both Republicans and Democrats 0:49:08.920 --> 0:49:11.719 agree on, it's broken and has to change. There's got 0:49:11.760 --> 0:49:13.759 to be a change. Ageing company. He believes it's going 0:49:13.800 --> 0:49:17.120 to be more healthcare deserts, meaning rural hospital shutting down 0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:20.399 and people dying, uh, but largely from trauma. I mean, 0:49:20.600 --> 0:49:23.120 you're telling me that people can literally bleed out because 0:49:23.160 --> 0:49:26.320 there's no physician or emergency room to treat them in 0:49:26.360 --> 0:49:28.400 a rural area. And we're talking about people who are 0:49:28.680 --> 0:49:32.640 farmers a lot of agricultural areas. And as we take 0:49:32.680 --> 0:49:34.960 the information super Highway and put it more rural areas 0:49:35.000 --> 0:49:37.200 because of the technology, well we'll see people who have 0:49:37.600 --> 0:49:40.000 met in a motor vehicle accident or you know, cut 0:49:40.040 --> 0:49:41.920 themselves of the saw that wind up dying, is what 0:49:41.920 --> 0:49:44.480 you're saying, when just a few weeks ago they could 0:49:44.480 --> 0:49:46.960 go to the clinic and get futured up. That's kind 0:49:47.000 --> 0:49:48.720 of it, and it's looking almost third world. 0:49:48.719 --> 0:49:52.399 It sounds like, uh yeah, well, you know, there are 0:49:52.400 --> 0:49:55.000 many areas you write about, absolutely write about trauma, think 0:49:55.000 --> 0:49:59.000 about obstetrical obstetrical care. How many hospitals not They might 0:49:59.120 --> 0:50:03.320 not necessarily, but they've closed their obstetrical programs. So women 0:50:03.400 --> 0:50:07.279 have no place to deliver their baby. And there's many 0:50:07.320 --> 0:50:09.960 reasons for that. For the reasons we just discussed. There 0:50:10.000 --> 0:50:14.359 are financial issues, but there's also liability. Now doctors are 0:50:14.400 --> 0:50:17.200 not going into obstetrics. We have a severe shortage of 0:50:17.200 --> 0:50:21.200 obstetrical physicians in the United States, especially in the West 0:50:21.239 --> 0:50:24.960 and the Midwest. And so you're a woman, you're going 0:50:24.960 --> 0:50:26.840 to deliver your baby, you have to drive fifty miles 0:50:26.920 --> 0:50:29.120 to find someplace where they'll deliver your baby for you. 0:50:29.320 --> 0:50:29.960 Think about that. 0:50:31.840 --> 0:50:34.440 I don't lie. You can hang on after your water breaks, right. 0:50:34.320 --> 0:50:38.760 I mean, it's insane, but that's exactly what's happening. And 0:50:39.000 --> 0:50:41.960 the thing that's really maddening about this is that the 0:50:42.040 --> 0:50:45.520 public does occasionally take notice of this stuff, but they 0:50:45.600 --> 0:50:47.799 hadn't risen up to the extent that I thought that 0:50:47.840 --> 0:50:50.200 they might. And the book is really kind of a 0:50:50.239 --> 0:50:54.040 clarion call for people, the public as well as practitioners 0:50:54.040 --> 0:50:56.920 to speak up, to talk to their legislators, to make 0:50:56.920 --> 0:50:59.200 sure that they understand that this is an issuative. They 0:50:59.320 --> 0:50:59.840 really have to. 0:51:01.960 --> 0:51:05.240 He's doctor Peter Cowei's cardiologist's public health expert. The book 0:51:05.280 --> 0:51:07.360 is a failure to treat and what things look like 0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:11.479 maybe in a not so future dystopian future for that matter. 0:51:11.520 --> 0:51:14.400 It sounds dystopian to me and like the stuff of movies, 0:51:14.480 --> 0:51:16.759 but this is a reality. If things continue to go 0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:19.080 the way they are. The question is who wakes up 0:51:19.080 --> 0:51:20.759 and says, all right, we got to blow this thing up. 0:51:20.800 --> 0:51:23.800 You know, government subsidized healthcare costs way more money, and 0:51:23.840 --> 0:51:27.120 the time you subsidize something, it becomes grossly more inefficient 0:51:27.480 --> 0:51:30.000 and really doesn't help those who would serve to help, because, 0:51:30.239 --> 0:51:32.480 let's face it, the insurance companies, the middle men, are 0:51:32.520 --> 0:51:34.839 the ones taking the money from the government. Here, as 0:51:34.840 --> 0:51:37.560 the holdout continues on the other side, if we just go, well, 0:51:37.760 --> 0:51:40.399 you know what, we can't have socialized medicine, Well, what's 0:51:40.400 --> 0:51:43.800 your alternative? Well nothing. Maybe the simple solution is as simply, 0:51:43.840 --> 0:51:45.440 and I've said this for a long time, the easiest 0:51:45.440 --> 0:51:48.439 thing to be doctor Cowie, would be to take away 0:51:48.480 --> 0:51:51.200 the burden for providers like yourself. Imagine if you don't 0:51:51.200 --> 0:51:53.640 have to employ an entire team behind the scenes for 0:51:53.719 --> 0:51:57.239 medical billing, coding, Medicare, Medicaid and all that nonsense, and 0:51:57.280 --> 0:52:00.000 just go Listen, you get sick, here's how much it costs, 0:52:00.280 --> 0:52:04.520 pay it or get for castrophic situations, just give catastrophic 0:52:04.560 --> 0:52:07.320 insurance and pay that much like you do your homeowners, 0:52:07.400 --> 0:52:10.360 your auto insurance, your life insurance. Go to a system 0:52:10.440 --> 0:52:11.960 like that and get your employer the hell of a 0:52:12.000 --> 0:52:14.520 business providing healthcare. I think would solve the problem. 0:52:15.760 --> 0:52:19.040 I think what you're suggesting has tremendous merit, and there 0:52:19.040 --> 0:52:22.200 are many people who believe that you're correct that we've 0:52:22.239 --> 0:52:29.160 created an infrastructure of health insurance companies administrators. We have 0:52:29.239 --> 0:52:31.960 more administrators in our hospital than we have nurses. Yeah, 0:52:33.320 --> 0:52:37.640 to get rid of this gigantic infrastructure that we probably 0:52:37.680 --> 0:52:40.080 don't need and return to some kind of a more 0:52:40.120 --> 0:52:43.719 simplistic approach to payment. And I completely agree with your 0:52:43.800 --> 0:52:46.879 catastrophic insurance for those situations. Where things get a little 0:52:46.880 --> 0:52:49.839 out of control and you're very ill. But yeah, it's 0:52:49.840 --> 0:52:52.480 going to take people to wake up and have a 0:52:52.480 --> 0:52:56.080 little common sense about this, and hopefully the book and 0:52:56.600 --> 0:52:59.960 your radio program will get people motivated in the right paw. 0:53:00.000 --> 0:53:02.000 All we have to do is eliminate the administrative and 0:53:02.080 --> 0:53:05.040 bureaucratic class. That's a problem. It's too big in medica 0:53:05.120 --> 0:53:07.520 a medical, it's too big in government, it's too big 0:53:07.520 --> 0:53:09.960 in schools. You name where the problem is. It's because 0:53:10.000 --> 0:53:13.040 we've got a bloated administrative and bureaucratic class. That's the problem. 0:53:13.080 --> 0:53:14.480 All the best, Doc, good luck with the book. 0:53:15.760 --> 0:53:18.000 Yeah, I appreciate it very much, Scott, all right, thanks again. 0:53:18.120 --> 0:53:20.399 Soon. It's a news update just a few minutes there, 0:53:20.400 --> 0:53:22.120 the very latest what's going on. Of course, he violence 0:53:22.160 --> 0:53:25.160 in on Fountain Square first and foremost this morning, and 0:53:25.520 --> 0:53:27.200 I go and I'll hear more adjectives from the mayor. 0:53:27.200 --> 0:53:29.280 We'll find out if any of this has teeth whatsoever. 0:53:29.520 --> 0:53:31.640 I'm asked Denise Dreehouse about this coming up at eleven 0:53:31.680 --> 0:53:33.800 oh six to some degree, because we're talking about putting 0:53:33.800 --> 0:53:35.600 the old arena where they are the new arena where 0:53:35.600 --> 0:53:38.560 the old arena is Heritage Bank Center and does does 0:53:38.760 --> 0:53:41.120 what does this say about violence downtown and how does 0:53:41.160 --> 0:53:42.560 that impact the banks and what we're trying to do 0:53:42.600 --> 0:53:44.120 all the positive stuff we're trying to do with the 0:53:44.160 --> 0:53:46.759 arena project among other things, as well as a convention center. 0:53:46.800 --> 0:53:48.879 She's at eleven oh six. Well close than that though. 0:53:48.920 --> 0:53:51.279 Up next Julie Baluki. Julie on the Job we talk 0:53:51.360 --> 0:53:53.799 career related stuff, a little break from the reality of life, 0:53:53.840 --> 0:53:56.319 and maybe some advice and news you can use. Next 0:53:56.360 --> 0:53:58.560 seven hundred WLW. Scotts, Luntcha. 0:54:00.160 --> 0:54:04.319 And barricades have given way to handshakes and handovers as 0:54:04.480 --> 0:54:08.480 Israel and Hamas six change hostages in a transaction of trust, 0:54:08.760 --> 0:54:12.520 with diplomacy being resurrected from the rubble. Will it hold 0:54:12.840 --> 0:54:15.920 or will the conflict continue? Keep it here for the 0:54:16.040 --> 0:54:20.840 latest updates on seven hundred WLW tri. 0:54:20.840 --> 0:54:22.120 State Board Buyers. 0:54:24.360 --> 0:54:29.840 Helping you navigate the rocky path of fulfilling employment. Here's 0:54:29.920 --> 0:54:32.360 our career shipa Julie Bouki. 0:54:32.880 --> 0:54:35.680 It's all right with the economy and just the job 0:54:35.719 --> 0:54:38.520 market titaning, you can really feel it, especially among graduates. 0:54:38.520 --> 0:54:41.399 And then you throw Ai into the mix, and what 0:54:41.440 --> 0:54:45.920 does that mean for future jobs graduates and like joining 0:54:45.920 --> 0:54:49.040 the show this morning, is that Julie Bouki our career Shirpa, welcome. 0:54:48.800 --> 0:54:52.359 How are you good morning, how are you sar well? 0:54:52.440 --> 0:54:55.799 Thank you. So typically it was hey, it used to 0:54:55.800 --> 0:54:58.200 be just go get a degree. It's fine, go have fun, 0:54:58.280 --> 0:55:00.719 get good, good grades, and we'll sort this whole thing out. 0:55:00.840 --> 0:55:03.839 Or you know, back when I was a student, it 0:55:03.920 --> 0:55:05.920 was more like okay, well, you know, and you knew 0:55:05.920 --> 0:55:08.640 people that change majors like eleven times are probably still 0:55:08.640 --> 0:55:11.880 in school. But back then it wasn't as not affordable 0:55:11.880 --> 0:55:14.000 as today. Today. You've got to a plan going in. 0:55:14.080 --> 0:55:15.760 You just can't figure it out as you go along, 0:55:15.800 --> 0:55:18.919 as generations past have done, even more so with AI. 0:55:20.520 --> 0:55:24.160 Yeah, and the plan can't be send junior off someplace 0:55:24.200 --> 0:55:26.880 at eighteen for four years and then when he or 0:55:27.000 --> 0:55:29.839 she pops out at twenty two, they've got a great 0:55:29.880 --> 0:55:32.480 job and a great career path waiting for them, and 0:55:32.680 --> 0:55:37.440 those those days are gone. And the challenge is with 0:55:37.640 --> 0:55:43.520 parents getting our kids to understand that. I love this 0:55:43.760 --> 0:55:45.879 article on the Wall through Journal talking about it's hard 0:55:45.880 --> 0:55:48.040 to give career advice to your kids these days. Of 0:55:48.080 --> 0:55:50.080 course I had to laugh at that and say like 0:55:50.160 --> 0:55:54.160 they were ever listening. You know, we want them to 0:55:54.200 --> 0:55:56.600 start thinking ahead, start being prepared. And it's really hard 0:55:56.880 --> 0:56:00.560 when you're a teenager, late teens, early twenties to have 0:56:00.760 --> 0:56:05.120 that ability to see ahead and to see that the 0:56:05.160 --> 0:56:08.640 world has changed and you're going to have to join 0:56:08.680 --> 0:56:11.280 the workforce and exist in a different way. In the past, 0:56:11.320 --> 0:56:13.239 we joined a company and we did all of our 0:56:13.320 --> 0:56:17.040 learning there. We got trained, we bumped our head, we 0:56:17.040 --> 0:56:20.560 were successful, we weren't successful, We moved around, and we did 0:56:20.600 --> 0:56:24.160 it all inside of a four wall sort of metaphorically. 0:56:24.239 --> 0:56:27.560 But we are in a place now where kids are 0:56:27.600 --> 0:56:30.360 going to have to learn to maneuver from chapter to 0:56:30.440 --> 0:56:33.879 chapter and each chapter might look different from the last one, 0:56:34.200 --> 0:56:36.920 and so the ability to do that, that's really if 0:56:36.920 --> 0:56:40.479 you've got teenagers right now, the three things that I'm 0:56:40.480 --> 0:56:43.640 suggesting that you really work with them on or focus 0:56:43.680 --> 0:56:47.920 on is helping them build out there what we call 0:56:48.000 --> 0:56:52.560 soft skills. How do you can customer service, talking to people, 0:56:52.680 --> 0:56:57.680 problem solving, doing something that's hard and feels uncomfortable. Can 0:56:57.719 --> 0:57:00.640 you stand in front of a room and that's something 0:57:01.160 --> 0:57:03.680 those we call them soft skills that those are really 0:57:03.760 --> 0:57:07.920 the one that companies are really desiring right now because 0:57:08.160 --> 0:57:10.800 we talked. I know, we talked last week about AI 0:57:11.160 --> 0:57:13.920 and AI will replace some jobs, but for the most part, 0:57:14.040 --> 0:57:16.600 what it's going to do is it's going to impact 0:57:16.720 --> 0:57:20.560 how jobs are done. Won't replace you, but it'll change 0:57:20.600 --> 0:57:23.920 maybe how you work. And so therefore you have to 0:57:23.960 --> 0:57:27.800 be better at those people skills, communicating, listening, problem solving, 0:57:28.200 --> 0:57:31.880 you know, being a decent person to work with. Those 0:57:31.920 --> 0:57:34.760 things are going to become magnified in terms of their importance. 0:57:35.080 --> 0:57:38.120 That's something that AI can't do. It can't act at 0:57:38.200 --> 0:57:40.280 some point, and there's gonna be you know, let's face it, 0:57:40.280 --> 0:57:42.080 the growing number of jos where there's no human interaction. 0:57:42.200 --> 0:57:44.800 But there's still plenty out there in the service sector. 0:57:45.280 --> 0:57:47.479 You know, just thinking of this, Julie, because the fear 0:57:47.520 --> 0:57:50.440 is AA. My daughter's studying and she's like realizing, like 0:57:50.880 --> 0:57:52.520 you know what I'm studying. It's in the computer field. 0:57:52.560 --> 0:57:54.640 It's like, AI is probably going to take this job 0:57:54.680 --> 0:57:57.000 into your future. I got to pivot and so to 0:57:57.160 --> 0:57:59.240 the classes I have and I can change and move, 0:57:59.240 --> 0:58:01.080 and she's been in flexed. I think that's a smart 0:58:01.120 --> 0:58:04.360 move and may delay graduation a semester but you know, okay, 0:58:04.400 --> 0:58:06.439 let's not get a degree in something that's worthless. Let's 0:58:06.440 --> 0:58:10.720 not do that. At the same time, she's also her 0:58:10.760 --> 0:58:14.080 income and she's a server and that's why she's paying 0:58:14.120 --> 0:58:15.880 for school and so. But she's learning though, So I 0:58:15.880 --> 0:58:17.800 think that's important, right, is the we don't want our 0:58:17.840 --> 0:58:19.560 kids to work, We want them to play sports, and 0:58:19.600 --> 0:58:22.320 we'll pay for everything. And you know, not all parents 0:58:22.360 --> 0:58:24.520 are that way. But I think having that service job 0:58:24.560 --> 0:58:26.160 where you're in front of people and you're having to 0:58:26.200 --> 0:58:29.880 deal with, you know, problematic customers and managers and schedules, 0:58:29.880 --> 0:58:32.600 and that trains you for what we're talking about here. 0:58:32.680 --> 0:58:35.560 If you spend your entire life just in front of 0:58:35.600 --> 0:58:37.800 a screen, you have no soft skills at all. You 0:58:37.840 --> 0:58:39.880 have to learn by interacting with human beings. 0:58:41.240 --> 0:58:43.480 Yes, and you said something really important there when you 0:58:43.480 --> 0:58:46.400 were talking about your daughter, So that she's taking she's 0:58:46.440 --> 0:58:50.840 in a technology field, working on her degree, and that's great. 0:58:51.480 --> 0:58:54.320 But even if parts of that are going to be 0:58:54.320 --> 0:58:58.080 impacted by AI, what she's doing, what she's modeling is 0:58:58.720 --> 0:59:02.080 an understanding and interesting technology and are willing to learn. 0:59:02.160 --> 0:59:07.320 And then you said flexible, flexible, adaptable, another super important 0:59:07.360 --> 0:59:10.040 skills because if she is showing right now, look she's 0:59:10.320 --> 0:59:12.320 if she's I look at that and I say, okay. 0:59:12.320 --> 0:59:13.959 If I was working with her to tell her story, 0:59:14.000 --> 0:59:18.360 I say, okay. I enjoyed learning about technology. I understand 0:59:18.800 --> 0:59:21.680 that things are going to change, but the basis and 0:59:21.720 --> 0:59:23.640 everything I've learned, I think it's going to help me 0:59:24.480 --> 0:59:28.640 learn more quickly whatever comes my way. In addition, I 0:59:28.640 --> 0:59:30.840 have worked as a server and a lot of customer 0:59:30.880 --> 0:59:32.919 service roles that have really taught me how to deal 0:59:32.960 --> 0:59:35.680 with all kinds of people from the general public to 0:59:36.480 --> 0:59:40.840 you know, more senior level people. And that combination really 0:59:41.280 --> 0:59:45.600 is what companies are looking for. And so that flexibility, adaptability, 0:59:46.520 --> 0:59:49.840 learn soft skills, the ability to learn, and then some 0:59:50.160 --> 0:59:53.720 level of comfort with technology. You know, we didn't do 0:59:53.760 --> 0:59:56.120 that in my day is never going to got it. 0:59:56.080 --> 0:59:59.960 Ever ever again, No, you have to learn. But that's 1:00:00.040 --> 1:00:02.320 the thing, is okay. So if you're the parent of 1:00:02.360 --> 1:00:03.960 a student, or you're a student, or you're headed off 1:00:04.000 --> 1:00:06.320 to college student side, how do I know that AI 1:00:06.440 --> 1:00:07.920 is going to take this job over? Is there a 1:00:08.000 --> 1:00:09.560 let mus test for this or we just don't know? 1:00:10.200 --> 1:00:13.560 Well, you don't And I think that's I heard one 1:00:13.640 --> 1:00:17.120 of probably one of the most prolific prognosticators on this 1:00:17.240 --> 1:00:20.800 kind of stuff, being asked this question on a call 1:00:20.880 --> 1:00:23.720 in show and he said, I have no idea. Because 1:00:23.760 --> 1:00:25.640 the mom was asking how do I guide my young 1:00:25.680 --> 1:00:27.600 sons who are getting ready for college in a couple 1:00:27.640 --> 1:00:29.800 of years, And he said, I have no idea. But 1:00:29.880 --> 1:00:32.400 he said, in actence the same thing I did. The 1:00:32.440 --> 1:00:37.840 ability to learn, the ability to communicate effectively, the ability 1:00:37.880 --> 1:00:39.960 to fall in your face and get back up. That 1:00:40.280 --> 1:00:42.600 those are the things that at least as we speak today, 1:00:43.120 --> 1:00:48.000 AI cannot replace. And so it's as you have teenagers 1:00:48.080 --> 1:00:52.480 junior high high school, you know, maybe insist that they 1:00:52.520 --> 1:00:55.200 get out there and get their hands dirty, working with 1:00:55.280 --> 1:01:01.040 the general public, babysitting, working a down, walking dogs, whatever 1:01:01.120 --> 1:01:05.200 it is, that being a caddy is wonderful experience for 1:01:05.320 --> 1:01:08.000 interacting with people. Don't get so caught up in they 1:01:08.040 --> 1:01:11.240 have to take every single AP class offered. And I 1:01:11.280 --> 1:01:14.520 think also from a parental standpoint, we have to get 1:01:14.560 --> 1:01:18.280 off of our there's only one right way past. And 1:01:18.600 --> 1:01:21.440 if your son or daughter is really showing an interest 1:01:21.520 --> 1:01:24.880 in working with our hands in the sort of the 1:01:25.360 --> 1:01:28.520 industrial type arts or really, you don't have to go, 1:01:28.600 --> 1:01:31.360 oh good, you can be a blah blah blah engineer 1:01:32.400 --> 1:01:34.440 at that point when they start to show with their 1:01:34.480 --> 1:01:36.640 interest in it, and listen to them and make sure 1:01:36.720 --> 1:01:40.040 they take advantage of everything their high school offers in 1:01:40.160 --> 1:01:42.720 order to get clear on what direction they should point. 1:01:43.440 --> 1:01:45.280 They're not going to stay in that direction forever, but 1:01:45.360 --> 1:01:48.120 at least gives them solid goodings to begin their career from. 1:01:48.720 --> 1:01:51.560 And don't the colleges are not doing this for your kids, 1:01:52.040 --> 1:01:54.680 so you have to it has to start young, and 1:01:54.800 --> 1:01:57.120 don't and really listen to what they want to do. 1:01:57.600 --> 1:01:59.880 And maybe they're not expressing it in the right words, 1:02:00.040 --> 1:02:03.200 but what they are doing, the things they gravitate towards 1:02:03.240 --> 1:02:05.800 the things they enjoy, their hobbies, all those things are 1:02:05.920 --> 1:02:09.040 clues about what they enjoy and so how do you 1:02:09.080 --> 1:02:11.800 take that and then translate that? And it's not a 1:02:11.840 --> 1:02:13.600 one and done process, and they're going to have many, 1:02:13.600 --> 1:02:15.160 many chapters in their careers. 1:02:15.800 --> 1:02:17.560 Julie Balky our career shirt but jumps on the show 1:02:17.560 --> 1:02:19.920 every Wednesday morning, breaks up a little talking correlated stuff 1:02:19.960 --> 1:02:22.840 in AI. How rough time for grads right now? But 1:02:22.920 --> 1:02:25.160 now I'm going to school and like, am I going 1:02:25.200 --> 1:02:27.000 to have a job? In a year or two or three, 1:02:27.000 --> 1:02:30.080 when I graduate in a field that AI is going 1:02:30.120 --> 1:02:33.400 to destroy. I mean, we always talk about how people 1:02:33.400 --> 1:02:35.440 born today are going to take jobs that have yet 1:02:35.480 --> 1:02:37.840 to be created. Now we have people that are close 1:02:37.880 --> 1:02:40.360 to graduating that are not going to get a job 1:02:40.400 --> 1:02:43.120 because it was here and then it's gone because of AI. 1:02:43.280 --> 1:02:46.400 It's really weird and you at the same time, you know, 1:02:46.440 --> 1:02:49.920 in school, we saw this during COVID, especially with you 1:02:50.160 --> 1:02:53.439 zoom and collaborating and everything else. But today we're telling 1:02:53.520 --> 1:02:55.400 students in school not to use AI. You've got to 1:02:55.480 --> 1:02:58.160 learn this material. And then okay, well I go to 1:02:58.200 --> 1:03:00.880 college and I'm going to need to have AI skills 1:03:00.920 --> 1:03:03.160 when I graduate. That's kind of a mixed message, isn't it. 1:03:04.600 --> 1:03:06.280 Yeah, you know, and we talked about this in the past, 1:03:06.320 --> 1:03:10.240 how companies are just so fed up with applicants using 1:03:11.560 --> 1:03:14.680 AI for everything to write the resumes, come up with answers, 1:03:14.720 --> 1:03:18.280 the potential interview questions, and so we're you know, the pendulum, 1:03:18.280 --> 1:03:20.360 the swing, and this is all still being figured out. 1:03:20.800 --> 1:03:25.040 But when you're out there, so okay, go ahead, let 1:03:25.440 --> 1:03:28.560 chat GPT, write your resume, but don't stop there, go 1:03:28.600 --> 1:03:31.040 and read it. Look at it and say, Okay, is 1:03:31.040 --> 1:03:34.200 this really is this really telling my story? Is this 1:03:34.320 --> 1:03:37.600 language I would use when I show up for an interview? 1:03:37.760 --> 1:03:39.520 Is this resume going to sound like me? 1:03:40.120 --> 1:03:41.400 You've got to put. 1:03:41.760 --> 1:03:44.920 Another layer over that, which is really what is you know? 1:03:44.960 --> 1:03:49.600 Who are you? And if everybody's using cat GPT to 1:03:49.640 --> 1:03:52.680 write the resumes, you aren't going to stand out. And 1:03:52.720 --> 1:03:56.320 so this isn't about And so I think it's the 1:03:56.360 --> 1:04:01.360 same with using gp GPT for anything. Don't rely it, 1:04:01.600 --> 1:04:05.320 rely it, rely it for the finished product. Help you, 1:04:05.720 --> 1:04:09.120 help you get started, to fast start, and then refine 1:04:09.160 --> 1:04:11.960 from there. I think that's where when we're when we're 1:04:12.040 --> 1:04:13.840 using it just because we don't want to put the 1:04:13.880 --> 1:04:16.000 work in or we don't want to do the hard 1:04:16.120 --> 1:04:19.439 thinking around a project or a resume or cover letters 1:04:19.520 --> 1:04:21.600 or whatever it is, that's when it starts to really 1:04:22.240 --> 1:04:25.840 really backfire because employers, and you know, whether it's employer 1:04:25.880 --> 1:04:28.160 you're interviewing with or someone you work with, can see 1:04:28.240 --> 1:04:28.720 right through that. 1:04:29.600 --> 1:04:31.120 I know AI can't replace the. 1:04:31.080 --> 1:04:36.320 Trades, that's true, but it will change how they're done, Yeah, 1:04:36.840 --> 1:04:39.440 how they interact with customers, you know. So yeah, it's 1:04:39.480 --> 1:04:40.280 not going to retreat. 1:04:40.680 --> 1:04:42.560 Yeah, but if you've got to you know, put a 1:04:42.680 --> 1:04:45.080 you know, sweats and plumber, put a press fitting in something, 1:04:45.120 --> 1:04:46.880 you know, a plumbing for example, you still have to 1:04:46.920 --> 1:04:48.520 do the plumbing. AA is not God. Now you may 1:04:48.520 --> 1:04:51.360 be able to use AI to do calculations and runs 1:04:51.360 --> 1:04:53.880 and stuff. Oh that's allll different matter, but the physical 1:04:53.960 --> 1:04:56.160 nature of it until we build an AI robot that 1:04:56.200 --> 1:04:59.440 can replace a human being to build stuff that and 1:04:59.480 --> 1:05:01.840 we should be And unfortunately, parents I think are waking 1:05:01.920 --> 1:05:03.640 up going, wait a minute, you're spending all this money 1:05:03.640 --> 1:05:06.200 and you know, we still have to subsidize you when 1:05:06.240 --> 1:05:07.760 you're a young adult. You should be on your own. 1:05:08.000 --> 1:05:10.360 That's not all, but that's too many. And I think 1:05:10.400 --> 1:05:13.040 parents are finally realized and there's no stigma in getting 1:05:13.080 --> 1:05:14.680 your kids and something like that. 1:05:15.800 --> 1:05:19.120 Nope, nope, And we're making progress there. And sometimes it's 1:05:19.160 --> 1:05:22.760 just driven by by need, you know, by demand, and 1:05:22.920 --> 1:05:24.440 to the point that we can't keep our head in 1:05:24.480 --> 1:05:25.240 the sand anymore. 1:05:25.680 --> 1:05:27.640 Well, we're still going to need people in stems, I 1:05:27.680 --> 1:05:31.320 mean science, math, Oh goshcha, We're still going to need 1:05:31.400 --> 1:05:33.360 people with you know, if you have a business degree, 1:05:33.360 --> 1:05:35.360 you're still going to be fine. Now, am I change that? 1:05:35.440 --> 1:05:37.360 A lot, but you still you can do a lot 1:05:37.360 --> 1:05:38.240 with a business degree. 1:05:39.440 --> 1:05:42.840 Oh yeah, absolutely. It's a broad set of skills and 1:05:42.880 --> 1:05:46.040 knowledge that every business that looks to run a profit 1:05:46.160 --> 1:05:49.080 or even a nonprofit is going to benefit from those skills. 1:05:49.240 --> 1:05:52.320 So it's being broadly skilled, being open to learn, being 1:05:52.360 --> 1:05:55.720 eager to jump in and take on something new, and 1:05:55.760 --> 1:05:57.960 not being afraid of falling on your face. That's really 1:05:58.000 --> 1:06:01.160 what that's really in a nutshell, are looking for. And 1:06:01.160 --> 1:06:05.600 we're not preparing young people, especially for the failing and 1:06:05.800 --> 1:06:07.760 getting out there and screwing up part. It's like we 1:06:07.880 --> 1:06:10.480 you know, as parents, we too many parents look at 1:06:10.520 --> 1:06:13.320 this as if you fail at something, and the fail 1:06:13.400 --> 1:06:15.320 I use the word loosely, but if you don't do 1:06:15.440 --> 1:06:18.000 well at something or something doesn't go your way, it's 1:06:18.000 --> 1:06:19.640 a direct reflection on me as a parent. 1:06:20.000 --> 1:06:22.360 Yeah yeah, and it's really not I mean, we still 1:06:22.360 --> 1:06:24.120 have that stigma of going to you know, people were 1:06:24.120 --> 1:06:27.840 in the mom and dad university vanity stickers on the minivans. 1:06:27.960 --> 1:06:30.600 There are problem my kids say, oh Harvard, Mom, okay, great, 1:06:30.640 --> 1:06:32.520 it doesn't make you a better person. Now if your 1:06:32.600 --> 1:06:33.920 kid goes Hi, are you going to go to an 1:06:33.920 --> 1:06:36.800 ivy league? I'm not diminishing that at all. It's congratulations, 1:06:36.800 --> 1:06:39.000 but there's a lot of people whose values of parents 1:06:39.040 --> 1:06:40.480 wrapped up in that that's unfortunate. 1:06:41.000 --> 1:06:43.640 Absolutely, yes, very much, so see it all the time. 1:06:43.720 --> 1:06:45.920 Yeah, if we do. Julie Balki our career. Surep on 1:06:45.960 --> 1:06:48.400 the Scots Loan Show. She jumps in every Wednesday morning. 1:06:48.480 --> 1:06:51.400 She's at the Bauki group dot com. Her team ready 1:06:51.440 --> 1:06:54.040 to work for you. Maybe you're going through job change. 1:06:54.080 --> 1:06:57.800 Maybe uh again you you do your work with college 1:06:57.800 --> 1:07:00.000 students as well too, right, or even high school student? 1:07:00.200 --> 1:07:02.440 Yeah, young people or very young people like that. We 1:07:02.480 --> 1:07:05.440 have worked with them, very mature juniors and seniors in 1:07:05.440 --> 1:07:09.080 college to help them prepare for what's next. Actually it's fun. 1:07:09.120 --> 1:07:11.920 They're really fun. They're very creative. I think we don't 1:07:11.960 --> 1:07:14.600 give them enough credit. They're so skilled in so many 1:07:14.640 --> 1:07:17.439 different ways that we just didn't value or havn't valued 1:07:17.440 --> 1:07:19.200 as much as we should. So, yeah, we're even working 1:07:19.200 --> 1:07:20.480 with juniors and seniors. 1:07:20.120 --> 1:07:20.680 In college now. 1:07:20.760 --> 1:07:23.040 They're not they're just putting your questions into AI and 1:07:23.080 --> 1:07:24.840 getting an answer. What's wrong with you? 1:07:24.840 --> 1:07:26.880 No, they're not things you can't. 1:07:26.640 --> 1:07:31.400 Fake, you know, Yeah, we know exactly. You know, you 1:07:31.520 --> 1:07:33.040 kind of know when you're sitting down face to face 1:07:33.040 --> 1:07:35.360 and talking to someone, there's eye contact, there's all these things. 1:07:35.400 --> 1:07:37.200 That's why I'm a big proponent of working when you're 1:07:37.200 --> 1:07:39.040 younger and having a job in college or high school 1:07:39.040 --> 1:07:41.600 because the soft skills, the people skills, learning how to 1:07:41.680 --> 1:07:43.720 interact with folks. And so many young people today, not 1:07:43.760 --> 1:07:46.920 all of them, but far too many don't have the ability. 1:07:46.960 --> 1:07:48.480 It's like they've got to look at the screen and 1:07:48.880 --> 1:07:51.920 you know, talk in one hundred and forty one hundred 1:07:51.920 --> 1:07:54.240 and forty characters less. And I work with people like that. 1:07:54.400 --> 1:07:57.000 Go man, you got to have some ability to hold 1:07:57.000 --> 1:07:59.000 a conversation. Look someone of the eyes, shake their hand, 1:07:59.320 --> 1:08:02.800 interact and that feels like it's a dying art and 1:08:02.960 --> 1:08:05.080 it's gonna be the cornerstone what we do in the future. 1:08:05.080 --> 1:08:08.040 You want to set yourself, separate yourself from AI, then 1:08:08.080 --> 1:08:09.280 you have to have those skills. 1:08:10.400 --> 1:08:12.000 Yes, absolutely, all. 1:08:11.960 --> 1:08:15.200 Right, Julie, all the best will chat next week, right, Yes, 1:08:15.240 --> 1:08:18.320 we will take care. She's at the Buki Group Bauk 1:08:18.520 --> 1:08:21.920 Bukigroup dot com. We've got lots going on in the city, 1:08:21.920 --> 1:08:23.800 of course, and a lot of bad things are happening 1:08:23.840 --> 1:08:25.559 a lot of good stuff. We've got the Thursday Night 1:08:25.640 --> 1:08:28.880 Football crew in town, so cincinnatill be featured on Thursday 1:08:28.960 --> 1:08:31.200 Night Football Bengals Steelers will have the game for you 1:08:31.240 --> 1:08:32.439 with Dan and Lapp here on the home of the 1:08:32.479 --> 1:08:36.880 Best Bengals coverage seven hundred WLW. My fear though, is 1:08:36.920 --> 1:08:39.120 when they shoot shoot the glamour shots of downtown and 1:08:39.120 --> 1:08:41.640 they show Fountain Square. Are we going to see a 1:08:41.760 --> 1:08:44.519 swat officer standing there guarding the Genius of statue, the 1:08:44.560 --> 1:08:48.920 Genius of water statue from Aaron bullets striking the bronze. 1:08:50.160 --> 1:08:52.320 I mean literally steps away from what they're gonna show 1:08:52.360 --> 1:08:54.920 on Thursday Night. Tomorrow night will be a window with 1:08:54.960 --> 1:08:56.920 a bullet hole in it. At City Chicken. Of course, 1:08:56.920 --> 1:08:59.599 we had gunplay steps away from that the day before, 1:08:59.640 --> 1:09:02.200 a couple days before anyway, where some people who had 1:09:02.360 --> 1:09:04.320 a beef had beef with each other decide they're going 1:09:04.360 --> 1:09:05.720 to get a shoot out right in the middle of 1:09:06.080 --> 1:09:09.040 Fountain Square, but right during rush hour as well. And 1:09:09.080 --> 1:09:11.400 now the Mayor's come out of press conference saying the 1:09:11.720 --> 1:09:17.280 adjective of the day is intolerable. Intolerable. My adjective may 1:09:17.320 --> 1:09:19.800 be maybe incurable. Has it gone too far? Has it 1:09:19.840 --> 1:09:21.400 gone put the point of no? Which are we too 1:09:21.400 --> 1:09:23.760 far gone? Not that we can't save it, but all 1:09:23.800 --> 1:09:27.240 the adjectives and curfews and patrol, they've done little, And 1:09:27.280 --> 1:09:30.320 we just got to get back to enforcing the law, 1:09:30.400 --> 1:09:34.000 going and going after those individuals and making examples of them. 1:09:34.160 --> 1:09:36.920 There should absolutely be no wiggle room. If you are 1:09:36.960 --> 1:09:38.799 a person who has a gun on you, they shouldn't 1:09:38.800 --> 1:09:40.240 have a gun on you. And that could be someone 1:09:40.280 --> 1:09:43.439 at her age, but specifically someone under disability, meaning that 1:09:43.479 --> 1:09:45.840 person has already been convicted of the felony and the 1:09:45.960 --> 1:09:49.080 law prohibits them from carrying, using, or even thinking about 1:09:49.200 --> 1:09:53.639 a firearm. And I'm willing to bet a lot maybe 1:09:53.680 --> 1:09:55.720 the farm, even if I had a farm, that that 1:09:55.760 --> 1:09:57.599 guy that we saw in the video with a white 1:09:57.600 --> 1:10:01.920 T shirt, the thick guy, fits into that category. You 1:10:01.960 --> 1:10:04.600 know what I'm saying. I just have a sneaking suspicion 1:10:04.640 --> 1:10:07.040 that person had some priors. The way they carry the 1:10:07.040 --> 1:10:09.639 way they acted, what they did, and just how cold 1:10:09.720 --> 1:10:13.559 they were tells me that person probably has some experience 1:10:13.600 --> 1:10:18.680 of law enforcement. Don't know what's going to initiate the 1:10:18.760 --> 1:10:20.600 change here, but the stuff they didn't want to do. 1:10:20.680 --> 1:10:24.080 Looks like we're doing this argument about Okay, well we 1:10:24.080 --> 1:10:25.800 don't want the National Guard here, we can't have the 1:10:25.880 --> 1:10:28.800 National Guard here because it looks why, well, you know 1:10:28.840 --> 1:10:31.599 it's a federal saying okay, I get the nuance between state, local, 1:10:31.600 --> 1:10:35.240 and federal government. At the same time, the average untrained eye, 1:10:35.360 --> 1:10:38.320 if I see an officer or someone who's dressed in 1:10:38.360 --> 1:10:42.879 military gear, paramilitary gear with a long gun, tactical gear, helmet, 1:10:43.240 --> 1:10:47.840 face shield, all of that stuff, I think it's police state, 1:10:47.880 --> 1:10:52.320 regardless if it's a National Guard, whether it's the US Army, 1:10:52.800 --> 1:10:56.559 or whether it's local law enforcement. I mean, stop with 1:10:56.640 --> 1:10:59.000 the semantics of it. We're at that point right now. 1:10:59.320 --> 1:11:02.080 I'm sorry, and we're at that point because well we 1:11:02.200 --> 1:11:05.240 let it get to this point. Up next on the show, 1:11:05.280 --> 1:11:07.400 Denise three House is here. She's the president of the 1:11:07.400 --> 1:11:11.479 Hamilin County Commission. Did you hear about this talk about 1:11:11.479 --> 1:11:13.120 building a new arena when that is I don't know, 1:11:13.160 --> 1:11:15.439 but there are four sites elected at least to attracted. 1:11:15.439 --> 1:11:18.120 One would be where Heritage Bank Center sits now, simply 1:11:18.160 --> 1:11:19.439 because well, how are you going to do that? You 1:11:19.479 --> 1:11:21.240 got to blow that up? And then rebus so there's 1:11:21.280 --> 1:11:23.240 no hockey, there's no events there. What's that do for 1:11:23.280 --> 1:11:26.479 the banks? And it's kind of hard to redevelop that area. 1:11:26.520 --> 1:11:28.519 And now they've gone it for a second time and said, no, wait, 1:11:28.600 --> 1:11:30.320 wait a minute, maybe this is the best area for 1:11:30.400 --> 1:11:33.400 a wait a minute, hold on just a second. What 1:11:33.680 --> 1:11:36.679 just happened? Ask Denise about this coming up next? Scott's 1:11:36.680 --> 1:11:38.439 loan seven hundred ww since now. 1:11:38.400 --> 1:11:39.920 Do you want to be an American? 1:11:41.320 --> 1:11:41.400 Right? 1:11:41.439 --> 1:11:44.400 Scott flown back on seven hundred WWS. So last year 1:11:44.439 --> 1:11:47.040 we did a study to find out where you could 1:11:47.040 --> 1:11:49.639 put a new arena. We need a shiny new arena badly, 1:11:50.479 --> 1:11:53.800 and they came up with four sites. The spot where 1:11:53.880 --> 1:11:58.240 Heritage Bank Center sits now is ah. They looked at 1:11:58.280 --> 1:12:01.240 it and went, is this it's too small? We can't 1:12:01.280 --> 1:12:03.640 there's no way you can put an arena here. All 1:12:03.720 --> 1:12:08.000 right now? MSA Sport, the agency, the group that's doing 1:12:08.000 --> 1:12:11.240 the studies, they re examined that site again recently and said, 1:12:11.240 --> 1:12:13.040 you know what, I think we can make this. I 1:12:13.080 --> 1:12:16.120 think we can make this work. Boy, this is interesting. 1:12:16.160 --> 1:12:18.600 Hemlin County Commission President Denise Dreehouse on the show on 1:12:18.640 --> 1:12:21.120 seven hundred at WLWDS welcome back. How are you? 1:12:22.040 --> 1:12:23.880 Yeah, I'm good, how are you? Thanks for having me? 1:12:23.960 --> 1:12:27.040 Of course? All right, So this is the I don't know, 1:12:27.080 --> 1:12:29.400 maybe this is like the Italian in me. I'm not sure. 1:12:29.400 --> 1:12:32.040 But so MSA comes in a second time for free 1:12:32.080 --> 1:12:34.519 mind you, and they go, you know what, we need 1:12:34.520 --> 1:12:37.200 to really look at this this arena site again. And 1:12:37.600 --> 1:12:39.600 you know what, actually we can do it if we 1:12:39.680 --> 1:12:41.920 move maring Way and we build a floodwall and do 1:12:42.000 --> 1:12:44.160 they say we can actually put a new arena on 1:12:44.240 --> 1:12:47.400 the existing site. And I heard that, And this is 1:12:47.439 --> 1:12:49.439 after the study came out just last year. It's not like, 1:12:49.479 --> 1:12:52.000 you know, five ten years have passed. This feels to 1:12:52.040 --> 1:12:54.639 me like there's tremendous pressure from people with a lot 1:12:54.640 --> 1:12:59.200 of influence strongly suggesting the site, as in, yeah, if 1:12:59.240 --> 1:13:00.960 you know it's good for you're going to build the 1:13:01.000 --> 1:13:04.200 arena the same site. My question is is this forced? 1:13:04.200 --> 1:13:06.360 And if so, who forced it? Because all of a 1:13:06.400 --> 1:13:08.680 sudden it didn't fit and then suddenly, praise God, the 1:13:08.680 --> 1:13:10.840 arena miracle happened and now we can fit an arena 1:13:10.840 --> 1:13:12.400 in the spot that we thought we couldn't just a 1:13:12.479 --> 1:13:14.400 year ago. What am I missing here? 1:13:15.680 --> 1:13:18.960 Well? I think there are people, I don't know it's 1:13:19.080 --> 1:13:21.240 great influence. I'm not sure that captures it, but there 1:13:21.240 --> 1:13:24.640 are people that are advocating for all of the site. 1:13:24.840 --> 1:13:28.840 And so I think this one on the riverfront, you know, 1:13:28.880 --> 1:13:30.960 I think there was some question as to whether or 1:13:31.000 --> 1:13:34.960 not it could fit in a larger footprint. And as 1:13:34.960 --> 1:13:38.040 you say, they've moved the street to the south, they've 1:13:38.080 --> 1:13:40.479 opened up some of the parking, the surface parking down 1:13:40.520 --> 1:13:43.880 there for the project, and so it's an interest. I mean, 1:13:43.960 --> 1:13:48.880 I'm very interested in this design because it captures and 1:13:49.000 --> 1:13:52.760 utilizes some of the built infrastructure that is already down 1:13:52.800 --> 1:13:55.120 there that the county and the city and the state 1:13:55.600 --> 1:13:58.920 all partnered to you'll build all that parking infrastructure there, 1:13:59.240 --> 1:14:02.600 and from myage point, I want to definitely try to 1:14:02.640 --> 1:14:06.160 take advantage of build infrastructure no matter where the arena goes. 1:14:06.960 --> 1:14:08.280 Yeah, I mean I get it. You look at that, 1:14:08.360 --> 1:14:11.200 and it's quite embarrassing for us to ease if you 1:14:11.240 --> 1:14:13.719 look at whether it's a county, the city, the Bengals, 1:14:13.800 --> 1:14:15.919 or all of us the banks is the fact that 1:14:15.920 --> 1:14:18.200 that was some twenty something years ago and there's still 1:14:18.280 --> 1:14:21.200 concrete piercing and they're waiting to be decked up for parking, 1:14:21.200 --> 1:14:23.559 garage and everything else, and I just can't help. But 1:14:23.760 --> 1:14:26.040 I'm not saying that this building out on the initial site, 1:14:26.040 --> 1:14:27.840 the site where the bank arena is right now, the 1:14:27.920 --> 1:14:29.880 Heriage bank centers now is not a bad idea. But 1:14:29.960 --> 1:14:33.160 I'm saying, is are we choosing that simply because there's 1:14:33.200 --> 1:14:35.640 so many people I know, you and the commission, the 1:14:35.680 --> 1:14:38.519 Bank's working group, the Reds, the Bengals, the big money people, 1:14:38.840 --> 1:14:41.760 the decision makers really wanted on that site because so 1:14:41.800 --> 1:14:44.840 much is invested in the banks. I understand that, But again, 1:14:44.880 --> 1:14:47.880 we have land that's ready to be developed and it's 1:14:47.880 --> 1:14:50.280 been sitting vacant for so long. I mean, it's really 1:14:50.280 --> 1:14:52.360 not let's face, it doesn't take twenty years to do 1:14:52.439 --> 1:14:54.920 what the grand vision is. I just wonder if we're 1:14:54.920 --> 1:14:58.760 forcing this to make sure that we use Atlanta, and 1:14:58.800 --> 1:15:00.920 when you do that, of course, are we choosing the 1:15:00.920 --> 1:15:03.559 best site or the one that the people behind the 1:15:03.560 --> 1:15:06.720 scene want the most? And does that is that good 1:15:06.760 --> 1:15:08.760 for taxpayers and people have come down there. I think 1:15:08.760 --> 1:15:09.559 it's a legit question. 1:15:10.560 --> 1:15:12.920 Oh, I absolutely think we should ask some question which 1:15:12.960 --> 1:15:16.240 is best for the taxpayers? And that is ultimately the 1:15:16.320 --> 1:15:20.920 question I asked myself which one benefits the taxpayers again 1:15:21.040 --> 1:15:24.080 using this built infrastructure that the taxpayers invested in, And 1:15:24.160 --> 1:15:27.240 so I am not committed necessarily to one site over 1:15:27.280 --> 1:15:29.640 the other. I think we do need to evaluate and 1:15:29.680 --> 1:15:32.120 make sure we're picking the best site. But I think 1:15:32.320 --> 1:15:35.080 these questions have to be asked. You know, where is 1:15:35.120 --> 1:15:38.200 the biggest than for the book for the taxpayers? And 1:15:38.439 --> 1:15:41.720 I have always said from the very beginning that we 1:15:41.840 --> 1:15:44.479 need to recognize we've got built infrastructure in some of 1:15:44.520 --> 1:15:48.240 these locations and we don't necessarily have it in others. 1:15:48.680 --> 1:15:50.559 So I don't feel like there's a heavy hand here. 1:15:50.600 --> 1:15:52.720 I mean, there was a study that was conducted by 1:15:52.720 --> 1:15:55.439 the Chamber in partnership with the city and the county 1:15:55.479 --> 1:15:58.479 to evaluate different sites, and that's what they did, and 1:15:58.520 --> 1:16:01.439 so this isn't a dendum to thatvery I don't think 1:16:01.439 --> 1:16:04.760 it puts the period on anything. So I don't quite 1:16:04.840 --> 1:16:06.680 view it in that way. And the other thing I 1:16:06.760 --> 1:16:10.679 want to mention is that the Urban Design Review Group, 1:16:11.000 --> 1:16:14.880 that again is some of the stakeholders down on the riverfront, 1:16:15.320 --> 1:16:18.200 are looking at those four sites that are still not 1:16:18.360 --> 1:16:22.800 developed and presenting a report to US mid November, and 1:16:22.880 --> 1:16:25.320 so I'm very interested in seeing what they come up with, 1:16:25.439 --> 1:16:27.519 because a lot twenty four is ready to go. The 1:16:27.600 --> 1:16:30.160 other three are not because we have to build that 1:16:30.520 --> 1:16:33.720 parking underneath. But at least we're moving on it. And 1:16:33.800 --> 1:16:36.639 I share your frustration, but at least we're moving on it. 1:16:36.880 --> 1:16:40.080 You know, you do have to have the resources to 1:16:40.520 --> 1:16:43.280 move on some of the stuff, and COVID really took 1:16:43.280 --> 1:16:46.960 a hit on our restricted funds, particularly the parking fund 1:16:47.400 --> 1:16:49.800 and the tourism fund, and so we just need to 1:16:49.800 --> 1:16:52.120 recognize the reality of you know, at least we're in 1:16:52.160 --> 1:16:54.280 a good position now where we've got a report coming 1:16:54.360 --> 1:16:57.639 forward to the city and the county to talk about 1:16:57.680 --> 1:16:58.799 those last four lots. 1:16:58.880 --> 1:17:02.479 Yeah, and parking infrastructure right around it. It'd be great 1:17:04.160 --> 1:17:06.720 the length of the project, though, what happens to businesses 1:17:06.880 --> 1:17:08.920 during the time when there are no events. If this 1:17:08.960 --> 1:17:10.720 is the site we go with, that's a factor that 1:17:10.800 --> 1:17:13.080 we don't have to worry about. And a few of 1:17:13.120 --> 1:17:15.479 the other sites, you know, the West End around where 1:17:15.479 --> 1:17:17.400 the casino is another one of the sites that are 1:17:17.400 --> 1:17:20.920 being evaluated, the CETV studio where Town Center garages. Maybe 1:17:20.920 --> 1:17:23.439 a little bit, but I mean this is this is 1:17:23.479 --> 1:17:26.360 the existing arena that goes away for what a couple 1:17:26.400 --> 1:17:28.599 of years, like we saw at the Duke Energy Convention Center. 1:17:28.720 --> 1:17:30.960 But that also impacts all the foot traffic to the banks. 1:17:30.960 --> 1:17:31.800 How do we work around that? 1:17:32.920 --> 1:17:35.960 Well, Bill, let's not forget that we've got other assets 1:17:36.000 --> 1:17:38.280 down there, never mind the stadiums, but also the music 1:17:38.360 --> 1:17:42.760 venue that was meant to bring year round entertainment and 1:17:42.880 --> 1:17:45.400 business to those retailers down there. I mean, that's part 1:17:45.439 --> 1:17:48.040 of the reason we pushed so hard for the music 1:17:48.120 --> 1:17:51.280 venue for that very reason. And so if this goes 1:17:51.320 --> 1:17:55.160 offline for a while, it is just like the convention center. Look, 1:17:55.520 --> 1:17:57.680 you go down, you go dark for a while, You 1:17:57.720 --> 1:18:01.000 make the investments, you make sure the end product is 1:18:01.240 --> 1:18:04.760 better and will draw more business than what we had previously, 1:18:04.840 --> 1:18:07.000 and in the end there is a benefit and you 1:18:07.080 --> 1:18:09.760 do it as quickly as you can. And that's exactly 1:18:09.800 --> 1:18:12.000 what we did with the convention Center. And I would 1:18:12.000 --> 1:18:15.760 expect that's what it's this were to be cited there 1:18:16.120 --> 1:18:19.280 at that site, then I would expect the same thing 1:18:19.320 --> 1:18:19.960 to happen there. 1:18:20.160 --> 1:18:21.760 What do you do with the cyclones for two years, 1:18:21.920 --> 1:18:23.960 biggest tenant? 1:18:23.640 --> 1:18:25.840 I don't know the answer to that. I mean, I'm 1:18:25.840 --> 1:18:29.000 not in the weeds like that. I'll admit I'm looking 1:18:29.040 --> 1:18:31.479 at the different options. I mean, let's not forget that 1:18:31.520 --> 1:18:33.320 we don't have the money to do this right now. 1:18:34.120 --> 1:18:37.360 So I've said this a million times, like this is 1:18:37.439 --> 1:18:39.840 on the radar, it's on the list, It's not at 1:18:39.880 --> 1:18:42.840 the top of my list because we are invested in 1:18:42.880 --> 1:18:46.519 the convention Center renovation. We just finished up the Bengals deal. 1:18:46.840 --> 1:18:49.160 We've got a lot on our plate that are really 1:18:49.320 --> 1:18:52.639 really big projects. And so you know, while the arena, 1:18:53.000 --> 1:18:55.240 you know, conversation is important and we're part of it, 1:18:56.439 --> 1:19:00.519 we do not have financing in place to instruct the 1:19:00.520 --> 1:19:03.479 new arena, so we we were missing a piece of 1:19:03.520 --> 1:19:04.400 this at the moment. 1:19:04.560 --> 1:19:07.360 Yeah. And the other thing too, is it's what it's 1:19:07.400 --> 1:19:11.000 still be publicly owned but publicly funded because the NVIN 1:19:11.080 --> 1:19:14.960 Entertainment owns it. But I'm here, like seventy percent investment, 1:19:15.000 --> 1:19:17.040 and then you know there's that, and then what about 1:19:17.040 --> 1:19:19.360 the private investment too. Those are pieces that still have 1:19:19.400 --> 1:19:21.719 to come together, right one hundred percent. 1:19:21.840 --> 1:19:25.160 Yeah, we're looking for a financial stack that makes sense because, 1:19:25.200 --> 1:19:28.840 as you say, it's privately owned right now, so I 1:19:28.840 --> 1:19:31.479 don't know is it is it public owned, private owned. 1:19:31.680 --> 1:19:34.479 I mean, look, we have limited resources. I just you know, 1:19:34.600 --> 1:19:38.559 and so to assume that the county has the ability 1:19:38.600 --> 1:19:43.000 to step in here and renovates this is not realistic. 1:19:43.680 --> 1:19:46.840 You know, we are a partner in this, that we 1:19:46.880 --> 1:19:49.559 have limited resources, and I just want to emphasize that. 1:19:49.760 --> 1:19:52.080 So we are not where we need to be with 1:19:52.160 --> 1:19:54.080 a financial steck. We're looking at it. I mean, we've 1:19:54.080 --> 1:19:56.280 got experts looking at it. And so to answer your 1:19:56.360 --> 1:19:59.519 questions about public ownership private ownership, I don't know the 1:19:59.520 --> 1:20:01.960 answer to that because we haven't resolved that question. 1:20:02.720 --> 1:20:06.040 One of the big questions commissioned President in Easter your 1:20:06.040 --> 1:20:08.240 house to ask would be, well, you got to work 1:20:08.280 --> 1:20:10.320 with the city on this one too. And then often 1:20:10.400 --> 1:20:12.479 cases this, I mean, I guess I just look at 1:20:12.520 --> 1:20:17.040 if we have peace between Israel and Palestine, I suppose 1:20:17.040 --> 1:20:19.000 that the city and the county can get along on 1:20:19.040 --> 1:20:21.840 some things. And what about the railroad money, that is 1:20:21.880 --> 1:20:24.000 something that the city has for infrastructure. I don't know 1:20:24.000 --> 1:20:26.960 if what applies here, and that's the railroad sale. Proceeds 1:20:27.000 --> 1:20:29.000 in the railroad sale that would go just to infrastructure 1:20:29.120 --> 1:20:32.640 roads in the city. I don't know if there's a 1:20:32.720 --> 1:20:34.519 carve out there or you're able to take some of 1:20:34.520 --> 1:20:36.680 those moneys or not. Has that conversation been had at 1:20:36.680 --> 1:20:37.400 all with the city. 1:20:38.600 --> 1:20:41.840 Well, we're working very closely with the city on a 1:20:41.960 --> 1:20:44.200 number of projects, not the least of which is again 1:20:44.280 --> 1:20:47.880 mentioned center and the Convention Center hotel. And so it's 1:20:47.960 --> 1:20:50.640 not the days of old where the county and the 1:20:50.680 --> 1:20:52.880 city are fighting with each other. That is not the case. 1:20:53.200 --> 1:20:54.960 I mean I have regular meetings with they have to 1:20:55.040 --> 1:20:57.720 have and council members about a number of issues. So 1:20:58.040 --> 1:21:01.120 we are in good stead with the city. And my 1:21:01.240 --> 1:21:04.040 expectation is that any financial stack we come up with 1:21:04.439 --> 1:21:08.400 includes the city, the county, the private side, perhaps the state. 1:21:08.439 --> 1:21:10.200 I mean, we need to look at all options. It's 1:21:10.240 --> 1:21:13.200 an expensive proposal. We don't again we don't have those 1:21:13.200 --> 1:21:16.960 final numbers, but it's going to have to be a 1:21:16.960 --> 1:21:19.000 collaborative approach to this and. 1:21:19.280 --> 1:21:21.280 That's getting stuff done. Although you know, as I point 1:21:21.320 --> 1:21:24.240 out the beginning, Denise, I look at the empty vastness 1:21:24.479 --> 1:21:27.080 around the banks and still areas yet twenty years, two decades, 1:21:27.080 --> 1:21:30.040 although you have to be developed and on that. We're 1:21:30.080 --> 1:21:32.479 talking about the Duke Energy Convention Center too, getting ready 1:21:32.560 --> 1:21:34.240 to open up. I think you know, first quarter of 1:21:34.280 --> 1:21:36.679 the year and pretty soon it's going up. What happened 1:21:36.720 --> 1:21:37.200 to the hotel? 1:21:39.000 --> 1:21:42.080 Oh, it's well, So let's I want to be clear 1:21:42.080 --> 1:21:44.400 about that. What's left on the banks this will be 1:21:44.479 --> 1:21:48.080 private development. This is not going to be your government development. 1:21:48.240 --> 1:21:50.720 So we will look at the private side and I 1:21:50.720 --> 1:21:53.000 think there's a lot of potential there because I think 1:21:53.040 --> 1:21:55.600 people do want to develop down there. Same with the 1:21:55.600 --> 1:22:00.040 host Headquarter hotel. It's a private development. There are in 1:22:00.080 --> 1:22:03.240 centives from the state, the city, the county in that 1:22:03.320 --> 1:22:06.519 deal to make sure that it happens. And that's moving along. 1:22:06.800 --> 1:22:09.160 So I don't know if you've seen the renderings, but 1:22:09.280 --> 1:22:12.920 they're pretty fantastic and it will allow us to have 1:22:12.960 --> 1:22:15.280 the room blocks that we need for the conventions that 1:22:15.320 --> 1:22:17.680 we're going to get because the convention Center is so 1:22:17.760 --> 1:22:21.080 much better than it used to be and the deportmental holdings. 1:22:21.120 --> 1:22:24.160 The group that is going to do that development just 1:22:24.160 --> 1:22:27.280 to the south of the convention Center also has purchased 1:22:27.280 --> 1:22:31.200 the Wesson and so that is a great opportunity for 1:22:31.320 --> 1:22:34.360 us to not only have the seven hundred keys in 1:22:34.400 --> 1:22:37.240 the hotel that's going to be new, but also utilize 1:22:37.240 --> 1:22:40.560 the Wessons for those blocks. So it's a real opportunity. 1:22:40.600 --> 1:22:41.720 I'm very excited about that. 1:22:41.720 --> 1:22:44.200 How soon before we start. I haven't been down there 1:22:44.200 --> 1:22:45.559 in a while, so I don't have they've done site 1:22:45.560 --> 1:22:48.360 work yet or if they got anything in yet. What's 1:22:48.400 --> 1:22:49.120 the timeline. 1:22:51.080 --> 1:22:54.759 I believe what's moving. I know that it's moving because 1:22:54.880 --> 1:22:57.280 I think some of these reports will be coming out. 1:22:57.600 --> 1:23:02.240 I think it's twenty twenty seven eight something like that. 1:23:02.320 --> 1:23:06.120 Remember it's a seven hundred key hotel. So the convention 1:23:06.200 --> 1:23:08.880 center will come online far before that, and we've got 1:23:08.920 --> 1:23:12.479 capacity in the downtown hotels. Now. The key to that, 1:23:13.439 --> 1:23:16.760 or the Convention Center hotel is that they can be 1:23:17.400 --> 1:23:22.080 relegated for the conventions. And so a group that wants 1:23:22.080 --> 1:23:24.479 to come in and do conventions in Cincinnati won't have 1:23:24.600 --> 1:23:26.880 to have hotel rooms spread all all over the city. 1:23:27.200 --> 1:23:29.479 They'll be located right across the street. We'll have a 1:23:29.520 --> 1:23:34.200 skywalk over the street, and so that will really help 1:23:34.760 --> 1:23:37.880 you kind of a turbocharge. Some of the conventions that 1:23:37.920 --> 1:23:38.479 are coming in. 1:23:38.520 --> 1:23:39.960 All right, kind of got off on the weeds there, 1:23:40.000 --> 1:23:42.280 as I often knew because of my brain the add Denise, 1:23:42.320 --> 1:23:44.880 but you know, high roll Hamlin County Commission President in 1:23:44.920 --> 1:23:47.320 EA Street House, I'm with Slowne seven hundred WLW and 1:23:47.520 --> 1:23:49.360 kind of update there with the hotel and the convention 1:23:49.520 --> 1:23:52.120 center project where we're talking about the new arena. A 1:23:52.160 --> 1:23:54.760 story comes out that says MSA Sport has on their 1:23:54.800 --> 1:23:57.080 own dime re examined the current Heritage Bank site and said, 1:23:57.120 --> 1:23:58.880 you know what, we actually can make this work. We 1:23:58.960 --> 1:24:01.040 can put a new arena there, which opens up a 1:24:01.080 --> 1:24:04.120 host of other questions as well, namely shutting that thing 1:24:04.160 --> 1:24:05.880 down for a couple of years and what that looks 1:24:05.920 --> 1:24:08.080 like for the banks and how you pay for it, 1:24:08.120 --> 1:24:11.479 of course, are huge issues right now. So it sounds 1:24:11.479 --> 1:24:13.920 like we're way down the line here before timeline. You know, 1:24:14.000 --> 1:24:17.240 what time do we start making a final decision and 1:24:17.280 --> 1:24:20.439 picking a site in you know, specifically the financing and 1:24:20.800 --> 1:24:23.800 when do you see this coming together if at all? 1:24:24.000 --> 1:24:25.840 Well, I don't know if it all is an option, 1:24:26.000 --> 1:24:29.080 but I think I don't know. I mean, as I 1:24:29.160 --> 1:24:31.600 told you, you know from my vantage point. You know, 1:24:31.640 --> 1:24:34.519 I'm interested in this. I think it's a big deal 1:24:34.560 --> 1:24:37.000 for the city and the county, but I am not 1:24:37.120 --> 1:24:39.599 later focused on this because we've got so many other 1:24:39.680 --> 1:24:43.879 things that were invested in. But I know the ideas 1:24:43.880 --> 1:24:48.120 are moving forward. This new look at the riverfront property, 1:24:48.439 --> 1:24:51.000 you know, just just came out, so you know, we're 1:24:51.040 --> 1:24:54.439 still studying it. But the big elephant in the room 1:24:54.520 --> 1:24:57.080 is the financing. And I have not seen a financial 1:24:57.120 --> 1:24:58.960 stack that pays for. 1:24:59.000 --> 1:25:03.200 Us okay, So that's a long way down the line. 1:25:03.680 --> 1:25:06.040 And how much of a factor, too is this is 1:25:06.080 --> 1:25:09.720 more short term I think, because we're talking years. Is 1:25:09.760 --> 1:25:12.080 what's happening in the city. As I mentioned, the conflict 1:25:12.120 --> 1:25:14.800 in the city and the county. Sometimes often cases it 1:25:14.840 --> 1:25:16.400 seems here at odds with each other, at least from 1:25:16.400 --> 1:25:19.439 the public perspective. But I'm looking at the violence of 1:25:19.439 --> 1:25:21.720 the crime on Fountain Square in around the city. We've 1:25:21.760 --> 1:25:23.680 got a new convention center that's going to open up, 1:25:23.680 --> 1:25:25.160 We've got a hotel that's going to go in. We're 1:25:25.160 --> 1:25:27.639 talking about building a new arena and getting more people 1:25:27.680 --> 1:25:30.240 downtime at a time where people were testified about moving 1:25:30.280 --> 1:25:34.280 out of downtown because of the violence. What kind of 1:25:34.320 --> 1:25:37.320 role does the county have in this and working along 1:25:37.360 --> 1:25:39.719 with the city. I know you've been kind of silent 1:25:39.800 --> 1:25:42.719 spectators on the sidelines, although Sheriff McGuffey is doing everything 1:25:42.760 --> 1:25:45.000 she can to enforce the laws of the city. But 1:25:45.600 --> 1:25:48.400 that's an area that's often not talked about between the 1:25:48.400 --> 1:25:50.920 city and the county, but clearly there's a overlay and 1:25:50.960 --> 1:25:52.320 the ven diagram of violence. 1:25:53.920 --> 1:25:56.519 Yeah, and when we do work with the city, and 1:25:56.560 --> 1:25:59.639 I have been in contact with a mayor and council member, 1:26:00.560 --> 1:26:02.840 the sheriff is the one that's our law and public 1:26:02.840 --> 1:26:06.240 safety person right at the county. And so if you'll 1:26:06.280 --> 1:26:10.760 recall back when there was an influx of violence, the 1:26:10.760 --> 1:26:13.519 sheriff for thirty days due to patrol like a sweep 1:26:14.000 --> 1:26:17.160 of Court Street. They you know, it's an overlap of 1:26:17.200 --> 1:26:20.080 what PPD was doing. And so she came in with 1:26:20.320 --> 1:26:23.760 her folks and said, Okay, we're going to take Court Street. 1:26:23.800 --> 1:26:26.280 We're going to get things under control up here. And 1:26:26.400 --> 1:26:28.800 so she did, and there was a partnership between the 1:26:28.800 --> 1:26:33.840 city and the county and so that ended, things got better. 1:26:34.160 --> 1:26:36.479 And so now I know the sheriff and the mayor 1:26:36.520 --> 1:26:39.680 are talking again about the counties roll in again, it's 1:26:39.720 --> 1:26:43.080 through the sheriff as to what that partnership will look 1:26:43.160 --> 1:26:45.720 like here. But you are correct, I mean, if we 1:26:45.880 --> 1:26:51.360 have continued violence in the city cores that obviously impacts 1:26:51.400 --> 1:26:54.200 all of what we're just talking about, whether it's on 1:26:54.240 --> 1:26:56.240 the banks or down a fountain Square or you know, 1:26:56.320 --> 1:26:58.960 some of these iconic places in the city and in 1:26:59.040 --> 1:27:02.000 the county when need get it under control. And so 1:27:02.360 --> 1:27:04.719 we are talking to the city, I know the sheriff 1:27:05.000 --> 1:27:07.479 importantly is talking to CPD to try to figure out 1:27:07.520 --> 1:27:11.280 what the best strategies are. It's a work in progress, 1:27:11.320 --> 1:27:14.759 but you know there, I heard some pretty strong language 1:27:14.760 --> 1:27:17.680 at the press conference yesterday, and so looking forward to 1:27:17.680 --> 1:27:19.080 our continued partnership there. 1:27:19.160 --> 1:27:21.040 Yeah, I don't get whether the partnership dissolved in the 1:27:21.040 --> 1:27:23.800 first place. And now it's like in hindsight's twenty twenty gone. Boy, 1:27:23.920 --> 1:27:25.439 sure could use more boots on the ground. We could 1:27:25.520 --> 1:27:28.400 use use sheriff controls in certain areas here, and now 1:27:28.400 --> 1:27:30.320 we've got slot officers standing. It's not a good look 1:27:30.360 --> 1:27:32.080 for the city as we try to build a nice, 1:27:32.120 --> 1:27:34.320 new shiny thing to keep them from the outside coming in. 1:27:35.360 --> 1:27:37.640 Yeah, well, let me just clarify that. You know, the 1:27:37.720 --> 1:27:40.280 city asked us to come in for a month to 1:27:40.360 --> 1:27:43.280 do this work, and so that's exactly what the sheriff did, right, 1:27:43.680 --> 1:27:45.559 And some of it is just a matter of you 1:27:45.560 --> 1:27:49.680 know finances and resources because it's really CPD's territory. I mean, 1:27:49.720 --> 1:27:52.800 the sheriff is coming in to a territory that CPDS 1:27:52.840 --> 1:27:56.559 happily helping to do that. But there it has to 1:27:56.600 --> 1:27:58.280 be if we're going to have a long term arrangement, 1:27:58.320 --> 1:27:59.240 we have to figure that out. 1:27:59.320 --> 1:27:59.400 Ye. 1:28:00.040 --> 1:28:02.799 That will include some resources from the city, from the county. 1:28:02.920 --> 1:28:05.400 And so if that's the goal, then something we're open 1:28:05.439 --> 1:28:07.960 to talking about. That was not what we were asked 1:28:08.000 --> 1:28:10.559 to do, for my understanding, and so the sheriff did 1:28:10.600 --> 1:28:13.800 what he was asked to do. And so now you know, 1:28:13.840 --> 1:28:16.240 there's a continued conversation with her, and there are other 1:28:16.400 --> 1:28:19.120 actors and all of this. Can I back up and 1:28:19.160 --> 1:28:21.880 say one thing I forgot to mention, and it's on 1:28:21.960 --> 1:28:25.040 a more positive note. Over at the convention center, So 1:28:25.080 --> 1:28:27.599 the convention Center is being redone at the city County 1:28:27.720 --> 1:28:30.479 County partnership. A hotel will go just to the south. 1:28:30.720 --> 1:28:33.240 Let's not forget about the property to the east where 1:28:33.240 --> 1:28:35.640 the Millennium used to stey. Oh yeah, I remember the 1:28:35.760 --> 1:28:39.720 Millennium hotel. County invested there, got that under control, took 1:28:39.720 --> 1:28:43.760 it down. That space is this big green space that 1:28:43.800 --> 1:28:47.200 we are going to be programming and it allows us 1:28:47.240 --> 1:28:52.160 to program stuff that convention stuff that would otherwise be 1:28:52.200 --> 1:28:55.320 in a building, but move it outside. And this is 1:28:55.400 --> 1:28:58.839 something that is a trend in the market. I'm super 1:28:58.880 --> 1:29:01.160 excited there to way we're way ahead of the trends 1:29:01.200 --> 1:29:05.120 here and to use that for programmable space for conferences 1:29:05.240 --> 1:29:09.120 and sessions, but also for social events. It's going to 1:29:09.200 --> 1:29:12.320 be a real game changer for the convention center. 1:29:12.640 --> 1:29:15.360 She is Hamlin County Commission President Denise Dreehouse on the 1:29:15.360 --> 1:29:18.160 show this morning and talking about the arena site and 1:29:18.200 --> 1:29:19.960 Heritage Bank Center and that may be the spot where 1:29:19.960 --> 1:29:21.240 we put a new arena on top of the old 1:29:21.240 --> 1:29:23.000 one and what that all means. And that's a little 1:29:23.000 --> 1:29:24.519 bit down the line, but I appreciate it coming on 1:29:24.560 --> 1:29:26.400 this morning and then laying that out for us. Denise. 1:29:26.640 --> 1:29:28.400 I'm glad you're well and we'll talk again soon. 1:29:28.880 --> 1:29:29.639 Yeah, thank you, Scott. 1:29:29.640 --> 1:29:30.680 I appreciate it, appreciate it. 1:29:30.720 --> 1:29:32.880 We'll get to a news update and more to follow. 1:29:33.040 --> 1:29:35.679 Sarah release and the Snort report stands by next Bengals 1:29:36.000 --> 1:29:39.120 and Thursday night football in town at pay Court tomorrow 1:29:39.200 --> 1:29:57.160 night light it up here seven hundred w it so 1:29:57.320 --> 1:30:00.000 long it feels like it's spent so long. 1:30:01.320 --> 1:30:04.040 How are you, well, you're the one who's crippled. 1:30:04.120 --> 1:30:07.000 How are you share Alisa's snort report. She comes over 1:30:07.040 --> 1:30:09.519 from one or two seven EBM, that's where import her from. 1:30:09.600 --> 1:30:12.360 And then she comes and snort your way through sports 1:30:12.360 --> 1:30:17.200 and Wednesday mornings and such with you. It's been been 1:30:17.200 --> 1:30:18.680 a while. What do we do last? 1:30:18.680 --> 1:30:19.519 I got the crutches. 1:30:19.920 --> 1:30:23.439 Crutches one more week. I think next Tuesday crutches should 1:30:23.439 --> 1:30:24.040 go bye bye. 1:30:23.960 --> 1:30:28.880 And you'll be walking around again. I missed the scooter. Yeah, selfishly, 1:30:28.960 --> 1:30:30.800 I liked riding around on it like I was the 1:30:30.880 --> 1:30:31.679 dude from Soul. 1:30:32.960 --> 1:30:35.880 And she's she's been driving me around like to work 1:30:35.920 --> 1:30:36.800 every morning for two weeks. 1:30:37.080 --> 1:30:38.759 Oh she's your personal uber. 1:30:38.960 --> 1:30:39.240 Yeah. 1:30:39.280 --> 1:30:41.240 But I'm like, you know what, I probably can get 1:30:41.280 --> 1:30:44.519 the crutches instead of the scooter and that's fine. 1:30:44.600 --> 1:30:46.400 And one more week and week. 1:30:46.320 --> 1:30:47.040 Yeah, yeah, yeah? 1:30:47.240 --> 1:30:47.840 Good is new? 1:30:47.920 --> 1:30:48.080 Right? 1:30:48.120 --> 1:30:49.760 I heard anything like that? So I think I'm ready 1:30:49.840 --> 1:30:51.200 to go, but I don't want to push it till. 1:30:51.280 --> 1:30:53.679 And that's what happens is once you start to feel good, 1:30:53.720 --> 1:30:56.040 you're like, oh, I'm gonna go run a marathon, and 1:30:56.040 --> 1:30:57.120 then you're back and good. 1:30:57.200 --> 1:30:59.160 I still have the boot and the crutches, so I 1:30:59.200 --> 1:31:00.720 got it. I'm in a good boy. I'm gonna wait 1:31:00.720 --> 1:31:03.960 till my my doc. Doctor Baker says, let's go. 1:31:04.160 --> 1:31:07.639 Well, this is the time for the older gentlemen because 1:31:07.720 --> 1:31:14.320 we are getting ready for the icy hot bulls. In 1:31:14.360 --> 1:31:16.559 a little bit, I'm gonna share some of the comments 1:31:16.600 --> 1:31:19.600 on social media because it is so funny. So we 1:31:19.680 --> 1:31:23.960 know Aaron Rodgers being forty one, Joe Flacco forty years old, 1:31:24.360 --> 1:31:27.639 which I'm not too far from these guys. So all 1:31:27.680 --> 1:31:31.200 the older people comments kind of has me a little triggered. 1:31:32.320 --> 1:31:34.559 Well it should be of a little bit that's here. 1:31:35.479 --> 1:31:36.800 I'm like, hey, I'm not far from that. 1:31:37.000 --> 1:31:38.600 Well, the funny part is at my side. It's like, 1:31:38.720 --> 1:31:40.479 forty forty still young. 1:31:40.560 --> 1:31:43.839 Right for you, You're like kill to be forty forty. 1:31:44.000 --> 1:31:45.760 But it is kind of ironic that you got the 1:31:45.800 --> 1:31:47.840 older dudes out there and you got the young guys 1:31:48.120 --> 1:31:49.200 in a boot like yourself. 1:31:49.360 --> 1:31:52.760 Yeah, walking around Burrow with us must up toe. You 1:31:52.880 --> 1:31:55.080 feel about tomorrow night? You know what. 1:31:55.200 --> 1:31:59.360 I'm excited. I'm excited. I feel optimistic about it. 1:31:59.439 --> 1:32:00.760 What makes you you'll optimistic? 1:32:01.240 --> 1:32:01.519 You know what? 1:32:01.600 --> 1:32:04.000 Joe Flacco looked really good in that second half in 1:32:04.120 --> 1:32:07.040 Green Bay. I feel like he finally settled in. I mean, look, 1:32:07.080 --> 1:32:09.160 you got to give you got to give the guy 1:32:09.240 --> 1:32:13.280 some credit. It was a very last minute notice to 1:32:13.320 --> 1:32:15.479 get that call to go to Cincinnati. He had maybe 1:32:15.520 --> 1:32:18.600 two days to practice with the team and it was 1:32:18.600 --> 1:32:20.800 on a plane to Green Bay and you're you're doing 1:32:20.840 --> 1:32:23.680 You're battling it out at Lambeau, which is also a 1:32:23.720 --> 1:32:27.160 really hard place to play. Head coach Zac Taylor and 1:32:27.160 --> 1:32:29.639 his presser the other day he goes, look, Joe didn't 1:32:29.640 --> 1:32:32.439 even know the names of most of the guys on 1:32:32.479 --> 1:32:35.040 the team yet. He's still trying to settle in. 1:32:35.160 --> 1:32:37.439 But Flo's done this a little bit. So he's like, 1:32:38.439 --> 1:32:41.000 this is not his first road teams, Like he's seen 1:32:41.040 --> 1:32:43.200 pretty much off of every offensive scheme that you can. 1:32:43.720 --> 1:32:47.080 He's set up pretty much the entire AFC North. He 1:32:47.200 --> 1:32:49.679 could be with the Steelers by the time the season's 1:32:49.720 --> 1:32:51.960 over and Joe Burrow is back on the field. 1:32:51.880 --> 1:32:56.400 Right because if something happens to to a rod right now, 1:32:56.400 --> 1:32:57.719 you're thinking now, you're. 1:32:57.520 --> 1:32:59.679 Thinking, so I'll be there tomorrow night with my dad. 1:32:59.720 --> 1:33:03.439 We ever miss the Bengals Steelers game This is when 1:33:03.479 --> 1:33:05.880 we always look forward to. No matter who the quarterback is, 1:33:05.920 --> 1:33:09.320 we've seen it all. Unfortunately, we've seen too many losses. 1:33:09.560 --> 1:33:11.920 I think it's that again. I think here's the problem. 1:33:12.000 --> 1:33:13.760 Right the offensive line, Okay has some work to do 1:33:13.800 --> 1:33:16.479 there obviously still and he you know, they kept them upright, 1:33:16.520 --> 1:33:19.000 which is a great thing. Maybe different to get the Steelers. 1:33:19.040 --> 1:33:21.400 But I actually had what one sack last year. 1:33:21.439 --> 1:33:23.120 But the last problem is it damn you know? Okay, 1:33:23.200 --> 1:33:24.880 the offen showed them the second half of the defense 1:33:24.920 --> 1:33:25.680 fall apart. 1:33:26.160 --> 1:33:29.160 Can we just have it all? Please you? And what 1:33:29.200 --> 1:33:31.920 about Moneymack with like the sixty seven yarder that didn't 1:33:31.960 --> 1:33:32.839 count in my head. 1:33:32.640 --> 1:33:34.599 On my Bengal thing in the entire game. 1:33:34.960 --> 1:33:37.320 I looked at my husband, I said, you know, when 1:33:37.360 --> 1:33:39.040 it does count, he's not going to make it, of 1:33:39.080 --> 1:33:39.479 course not. 1:33:39.600 --> 1:33:41.920 That's a hard sixty seven is a big ask. Like 1:33:42.000 --> 1:33:45.439 that's the whole field again, Bengal luck working against us 1:33:45.479 --> 1:33:46.040 in this case. 1:33:46.400 --> 1:33:48.120 This is I feel about tomorrow night? 1:33:51.080 --> 1:33:51.280 Do you? 1:33:52.280 --> 1:33:52.479 I mean? 1:33:52.920 --> 1:33:54.639 Okay, I look at Okay, you got Joe Flacco, he's 1:33:54.680 --> 1:33:57.120 hitting some of the guy. Okay, can you outscore Pittsburgh 1:33:57.200 --> 1:34:01.080 at this point? I just the defense. Like, I'll be 1:34:01.120 --> 1:34:03.200 honest with you, I haven't seen damn thing out of 1:34:03.200 --> 1:34:05.120 the defense. It makes me think that they can carry 1:34:05.120 --> 1:34:07.000 this team into the fourth quarter. That's what scares me 1:34:07.000 --> 1:34:08.960 about it because I think Pittsburgh just smash Mouth. They're 1:34:08.960 --> 1:34:10.439 going to come in and I think it's going to 1:34:10.520 --> 1:34:12.479 be close in it maybe another Green Bay situation. 1:34:12.800 --> 1:34:14.200 I think it is going to be a close game. 1:34:14.520 --> 1:34:16.680 I have no idea what's going to happen tomorrow night. 1:34:16.880 --> 1:34:18.200 I feel like every time. 1:34:18.040 --> 1:34:19.320 They got to win, I mean, this is it. 1:34:19.400 --> 1:34:21.280 Every time it's a surprise. But yes, this is a 1:34:21.360 --> 1:34:23.519 must win situation if you want to try to keep 1:34:23.600 --> 1:34:26.320 up in the AFC North, Yep, take advantage of how 1:34:26.360 --> 1:34:28.559 bad the Browns and the Ravens are doing. 1:34:29.400 --> 1:34:32.080 Take advantage of that, right, full advantage. It's gonna be 1:34:32.120 --> 1:34:35.040 tough to catch Pittsburgh. But you get it really because 1:34:35.040 --> 1:34:35.919 you got at Pittsburgh. 1:34:35.920 --> 1:34:37.519 It's yeah, it's kind of then you and then you've 1:34:37.560 --> 1:34:40.720 got ten days off to get it together with your 1:34:40.760 --> 1:34:42.880 new QB. So this really is a must win for 1:34:42.880 --> 1:34:43.280 the battle. 1:34:43.720 --> 1:34:44.640 You got to come out and you go to that 1:34:44.680 --> 1:34:46.280 buy of the win, half the win. This must win 1:34:46.360 --> 1:34:48.200 otherwise I don't know how they I don't know how 1:34:48.200 --> 1:34:48.800 they pull it off. 1:34:48.800 --> 1:34:50.680 I don't know how you keep up in the conversation. 1:34:50.880 --> 1:34:51.120 You do. 1:34:52.040 --> 1:34:54.719 I don't want this to be a four win season, Okay, please, 1:34:55.520 --> 1:34:58.320 but yeah, with Aaron Rodgers being forty one Flak being 1:34:58.479 --> 1:35:02.479 forty this this is just the second matchup of starting 1:35:02.560 --> 1:35:08.160 QB's forty or older in NFL history. So we're witnessing. 1:35:09.280 --> 1:35:10.280 This is great for you. 1:35:10.680 --> 1:35:13.320 I am so excited for this. Okay, I think this 1:35:13.520 --> 1:35:16.960 is great. The comments are hilarious. But Tom Brady and 1:35:17.040 --> 1:35:19.760 Drew Brees the last one is to do it back 1:35:19.760 --> 1:35:23.599 in twenty twenty, so uh, get ready for history. Baby. 1:35:23.960 --> 1:35:24.559 This is fun. 1:35:24.680 --> 1:35:27.200 This historic. Did they take a nap at halftime? It's 1:35:27.240 --> 1:35:28.040 like a five minute too. 1:35:28.160 --> 1:35:29.439 That's what I was going to get to. So some 1:35:29.479 --> 1:35:32.479 of the comments under the post, this is the battle 1:35:32.520 --> 1:35:36.160 of the Granddaddy's. Oh my gosh, I feel so old. 1:35:39.240 --> 1:35:42.200 Instead of a sideline reporter, put a staff of nurses 1:35:42.240 --> 1:35:46.120 out there. Yeah, a few other ones. This game should 1:35:46.160 --> 1:35:52.240 be sponsored by AARP, calling it the Geriatric Bowl. Someone 1:35:52.280 --> 1:35:55.040 said eight point fifteen is too late of a start 1:35:55.120 --> 1:35:57.280 for guys that are in bed by seven. 1:35:57.400 --> 1:36:00.280 Oh my god, you can't do that. Yeah, should be 1:36:00.280 --> 1:36:01.160 playing the London game. 1:36:01.320 --> 1:36:04.920 Look, we just in the morning. I want to sit 1:36:04.960 --> 1:36:07.080 there with my cine bums and watch the daddies go 1:36:07.200 --> 1:36:10.400 at it. Yeah, yeah, I'm excited. I don't know. I'll 1:36:10.439 --> 1:36:12.920 be there with my dad. We just laugh to keep 1:36:12.960 --> 1:36:14.040 him crying. That's what happens. 1:36:14.479 --> 1:36:16.200 That's all you can do is as a Bengals fan, 1:36:16.360 --> 1:36:18.120 because at this point we'll be going how many days? 1:36:18.240 --> 1:36:20.400 If they lose tomorrow, it's how many days till opening Day? 1:36:20.840 --> 1:36:22.800 Oh? Mike, what are we at? One fifty? I don't know, 1:36:22.840 --> 1:36:25.200 something like that. We've got Reds Fest in January. That's 1:36:25.240 --> 1:36:29.360 something to look forward to. The dude, Pittsburgh. All teams 1:36:29.400 --> 1:36:36.080 beat Pittsburgh, I said, must win. Some positive news, how golden? 1:36:36.200 --> 1:36:39.680 Yesterday talking to media our defensive coordinator, he said that 1:36:39.760 --> 1:36:43.519 Jamar Stewart finally back. Remember he went down Week two 1:36:43.560 --> 1:36:45.559 with that ankle injury. I know we're all kind of like, 1:36:45.600 --> 1:36:51.200 who's Chamar's Stewart? What happened to him? So anyways, he's back. 1:36:52.120 --> 1:36:54.880 Not sure what's going to go down with Trey Hendrickson 1:36:54.960 --> 1:36:58.759 dealing with a bad back injury. I think he's playing tomorrow. 1:36:58.880 --> 1:37:02.200 I think I think I'll seehim there minutes before kickoff. 1:37:02.040 --> 1:37:04.599 Right, Zach Taylor will say, uh, hey, by the way, 1:37:04.600 --> 1:37:05.160 he'll be out there. 1:37:05.720 --> 1:37:07.120 We will see Stewart tomorrow. 1:37:07.400 --> 1:37:08.679 That's what Al Golden is saying. 1:37:08.720 --> 1:37:11.720 Okay, that'll be big. He needs a He looked good 1:37:11.760 --> 1:37:14.439 in the limited starts he had. But yeah, getting some 1:37:14.479 --> 1:37:16.880 guy's healthy gay night back there, that's gonna help tremendously. 1:37:16.720 --> 1:37:21.000 I think. So Logan Wilson or yeah, Logan Wilson had 1:37:21.000 --> 1:37:23.679 talked to media yesterday about getting benched for that Green 1:37:23.720 --> 1:37:24.080 Bay A. 1:37:24.200 --> 1:37:26.840 Talk about old. There's your guy getting old. That's what 1:37:26.880 --> 1:37:27.200 it is. 1:37:27.320 --> 1:37:30.160 He's not old, he's not even thirty. 1:37:29.840 --> 1:37:32.720 Okay, but he doesn't look the same. Zach Taylor said, 1:37:32.760 --> 1:37:34.840 he looking old and feeling old are two different things. 1:37:35.080 --> 1:37:38.080 I understand that. Unfortunately, I'm going through both. I know 1:37:38.240 --> 1:37:39.679 I'm looking old, I'm feeling old. 1:37:39.720 --> 1:37:42.080 I'm not doing okay looking old, Sarah. 1:37:42.360 --> 1:37:46.080 Feeling old like so many needles you can put in 1:37:46.160 --> 1:37:49.320 my face, and needles into your ankle and your foot 1:37:49.360 --> 1:37:51.200 and your knee and your shoulder and everything. 1:37:52.040 --> 1:37:52.519 You're doing it. 1:37:52.840 --> 1:37:55.040 You're going to be like Joe Burrow, like a whole robotic. 1:37:55.240 --> 1:37:56.920 I'm doing it. You feel better. You do it to 1:37:56.960 --> 1:37:59.080 look better. Those are two different types of procedures. 1:37:59.080 --> 1:38:00.840 Hey, when you look good, you feel good. Feel good, 1:38:00.840 --> 1:38:01.920 look good. 1:38:02.680 --> 1:38:06.599 Yeah, hell, don't overdo it. Don't turn into plastic surgery mass. 1:38:06.600 --> 1:38:07.240 You're not going to do that. 1:38:07.360 --> 1:38:08.679 Are you gonna afford to do that? 1:38:08.680 --> 1:38:09.599 That's probably a good thing. 1:38:09.920 --> 1:38:10.200 I know. 1:38:11.200 --> 1:38:12.920 God's like, I'm going to keep you poor, so you 1:38:12.960 --> 1:38:13.400 don't get. 1:38:14.120 --> 1:38:16.720 Had plastic surgery in their thirties and forties, but then 1:38:16.720 --> 1:38:19.559 they're fifty, they look like the scream masks. Oh good, 1:38:19.600 --> 1:38:21.960 look yeah. 1:38:21.080 --> 1:38:22.840 You only want the screen mask for one day out 1:38:22.840 --> 1:38:26.439 of the year for Halloween. So but yeah. So Logan 1:38:26.479 --> 1:38:29.080 Wilson he had talked to media about getting bench. She said, 1:38:29.080 --> 1:38:31.559 I can look back at this time of adversity and 1:38:31.600 --> 1:38:34.320 be able to tell my kids how to work through it. 1:38:34.320 --> 1:38:36.639 Looks like the Bengals are going to be starting Barrett 1:38:38.880 --> 1:38:42.000 Barrett Carter. So he told Barrett that he wants to 1:38:42.000 --> 1:38:43.840 help him out in any way. There's no hard feelings 1:38:43.880 --> 1:38:46.559 about anything. Logan Wilson handling it like a true pro 1:38:47.120 --> 1:38:50.719 and Barrett said, nothing but love and respect for Logan Wilson. 1:38:51.320 --> 1:38:55.120 So there you go. That's what's trending with our Bengals. 1:38:55.320 --> 1:38:58.720 Okay, and I saw the Thursday football teams are in 1:38:58.760 --> 1:39:01.719 town already getting paid core ready to go. Yeah, great 1:39:01.800 --> 1:39:03.880 under the lights. The weather's gonna be phenomenal. 1:39:04.000 --> 1:39:07.760 Oh, it's gonna feel like football weather. It's gonna be gorgeous. 1:39:07.760 --> 1:39:10.400 It's a big white out. Yeah. The team had a 1:39:10.520 --> 1:39:13.599 late night practice. They actually had it at Pakor Stadium 1:39:13.640 --> 1:39:16.439 last night and they were getting the white out ready. 1:39:16.439 --> 1:39:18.640 So go check out the Bengals social media for that. 1:39:18.720 --> 1:39:22.280 They've got like white and black tiger striped walls up 1:39:22.320 --> 1:39:24.679 against the you know, around the whole field. It looks 1:39:24.720 --> 1:39:27.240 really cool. So if you look cool, you're gonna play cool, 1:39:27.320 --> 1:39:29.960 right all right? Even in the icy hot Bowl. The 1:39:29.960 --> 1:39:32.200 Bengals didn't announce the other day that the ruler of 1:39:32.280 --> 1:39:37.240 the Jungle is going to be Andrew Whitworth. He kind 1:39:37.280 --> 1:39:39.000 of gives the Bengals a hard time. 1:39:39.000 --> 1:39:41.360 Do I think of love? 1:39:41.560 --> 1:39:44.240 Yeah, And I think that's okay. You can be both. 1:39:44.320 --> 1:39:46.320 You can be a fan and you can also give 1:39:46.320 --> 1:39:48.720 your team a hard time. I think it should be 1:39:48.880 --> 1:39:49.960 like that all right. 1:39:50.560 --> 1:39:50.720 Now. 1:39:50.760 --> 1:39:51.719 The big question is. 1:39:52.040 --> 1:39:52.800 Can he suit up? 1:39:52.920 --> 1:39:53.000 No? 1:39:53.960 --> 1:39:55.040 Can we put them out there. 1:39:55.920 --> 1:39:57.840 It's not the injuries on the field. It's the injuries 1:39:57.840 --> 1:40:01.160 like at Fountain Square or anybody gets shot. Why would 1:40:01.200 --> 1:40:04.000 you go there, because that's the big story today. 1:40:04.080 --> 1:40:06.200 Did you see that they're gonna have police and swats 1:40:06.240 --> 1:40:08.160 it up front two pm to ten pm? 1:40:08.640 --> 1:40:10.840 The National Guard here? We can't have the National Guard. 1:40:10.840 --> 1:40:13.759 It looks it's terribly you got these uniform paramilitary trippers. 1:40:13.760 --> 1:40:15.479 By the way, we're gonna have swat officers. I think 1:40:15.479 --> 1:40:17.519 to the untrained eye, you look at a SWAT officer 1:40:17.560 --> 1:40:18.880 and you look at it, we kind of freak out 1:40:18.880 --> 1:40:20.880 a little round. Well, you look at National Guards. I 1:40:20.920 --> 1:40:24.479 know the difference between the two, obviously, but when for 1:40:24.560 --> 1:40:25.960 the average percy you look at it, go I don't know. 1:40:26.040 --> 1:40:27.960 It's a guy that's just in tactical gear with them 1:40:27.960 --> 1:40:29.840 the sell type or right full and a helmet on. 1:40:29.920 --> 1:40:32.600 It's like, what whether it's a National Guarden, it's the 1:40:32.640 --> 1:40:35.040 same thing. And you're still not leaning into having the 1:40:35.080 --> 1:40:38.880 troopers come down, State troopers and and that whole thing. 1:40:38.920 --> 1:40:41.040 It's like it's just more of the same. It's like 1:40:41.080 --> 1:40:43.160 you could see this coming because they just slow played 1:40:43.160 --> 1:40:45.040 the whole thing, going okay, well we'll try a little more. 1:40:45.160 --> 1:40:48.040 How are the curfews working out? And how's it's it's not. 1:40:47.960 --> 1:40:52.120 The curfew thing is not working Yeah, clearly. And you 1:40:52.160 --> 1:40:56.240 know it's bad when Jeff Ruby's releases the presser and 1:40:56.479 --> 1:41:00.920 starts making moves, start making it in Lympika out yep Ooh. 1:41:00.600 --> 1:41:02.760 The climate on tom properties, I guess I get that, 1:41:02.800 --> 1:41:04.599 but it's like it's a safety issue and we're moving 1:41:04.640 --> 1:41:06.600 it to Walnut and correct. Tell you what, you have 1:41:06.640 --> 1:41:09.519 more bullets flying and Fountain Square, that nice shiny rubies 1:41:09.520 --> 1:41:12.120 you're eating at they're gonna move. Can you imagine? And 1:41:12.160 --> 1:41:15.280 we don't want them, do you imagine? No, the flagship 1:41:15.320 --> 1:41:18.440 restaurant for the culinary experience in Cincinnati, Britney. 1:41:18.200 --> 1:41:19.960 Ruby is my mayor of Cincinnati. 1:41:20.080 --> 1:41:21.200 Is she pulls out of there? 1:41:21.640 --> 1:41:24.400 Oh we're done. We don't want that to happen. That 1:41:24.520 --> 1:41:26.120 is a beautiful restaurant. 1:41:26.160 --> 1:41:26.519 Oh you're going. 1:41:26.640 --> 1:41:28.280 And then right around the corner, you've got the lighting 1:41:28.320 --> 1:41:30.599 of the Christmas tree coming up. You've got all you know, 1:41:30.680 --> 1:41:33.280 the ice skating coming like, let's come on, get it together. 1:41:33.479 --> 1:41:35.559 You have this clown that just keeps going. Well, you know, 1:41:35.720 --> 1:41:38.240 we got at more, you know, more hands on we 1:41:38.280 --> 1:41:40.439 need more programs. And this is what happens when you 1:41:40.520 --> 1:41:42.679 just let sociopaths run the streets unchecked. 1:41:42.920 --> 1:41:45.559 An eight o'clock shooting on a Monday night, right out 1:41:45.920 --> 1:41:48.280 right outside of Jeff Ruby's. 1:41:47.600 --> 1:41:49.800 Not good, Ballsy, not good. 1:41:50.000 --> 1:41:54.280 And it's not just the teenagers. Now, these were twenty 1:41:54.360 --> 1:41:55.840 year olds that were involved. 1:41:56.200 --> 1:41:58.439 Yeah, a couple of teens, a twenty four year old dude. 1:41:58.600 --> 1:42:00.639 And they're still looking for the guy that the big guy, 1:42:00.800 --> 1:42:03.440 uh huh, looking for Biggie Smalls. 1:42:04.960 --> 1:42:07.240 That video was triggering. They released that the other night. 1:42:09.040 --> 1:42:11.880 I don't know this, this fat guy that's the streets. 1:42:12.040 --> 1:42:14.040 The guy couldn't have gone to. Maybe you want to 1:42:14.040 --> 1:42:15.120 stake out a drive through. 1:42:19.160 --> 1:42:21.880 But yeah, there's a lot going on in Cincinnati. Uh 1:42:22.000 --> 1:42:24.280 this weekend. You know, You've got the Bengals tomorrow night, 1:42:24.400 --> 1:42:28.120 and then FC Cincinnati for their fan appreciation night at 1:42:28.160 --> 1:42:31.000 t Q Well, and then Cyclones hockey is back on 1:42:31.040 --> 1:42:35.559 Saturday night. And guess who's sounding the siren? Your husband, 1:42:35.720 --> 1:42:38.880 our girl, Tiff Potter, she is, Yes, I will be 1:42:38.920 --> 1:42:40.120 there with her on Saturday night. 1:42:40.520 --> 1:42:42.400 She got a job fast, I know. 1:42:42.439 --> 1:42:46.000 Sounding the siren for the Sinnai Cyclones for the first 1:42:46.000 --> 1:42:47.799 face off. Yeah, it'll be a good time. 1:42:47.680 --> 1:42:49.320 All right, good, well, she needs to get out and 1:42:49.360 --> 1:42:53.360 have some fun after the. 1:42:51.960 --> 1:42:57.240 Reduction and force unfortunately, Yeah, we very much. But she's 1:42:57.280 --> 1:42:59.840 gonna land on her feet on shore and do great. 1:43:00.280 --> 1:43:02.639 So that's the nature of our economy these days. 1:43:02.640 --> 1:43:04.920 Go out and support our cyclones and our girl tiff 1:43:04.960 --> 1:43:05.400 on Saturday. 1:43:05.439 --> 1:43:07.240 What are you gonna do? I just had Denise Treehouse. 1:43:07.240 --> 1:43:08.599 I don't know if you heard that at all, but 1:43:08.640 --> 1:43:10.519 the shoes talking about the arena. They want to put 1:43:10.520 --> 1:43:12.200 the arena on top of the old arena now that 1:43:12.280 --> 1:43:13.960 that's open. I wanted to lean on that because that 1:43:13.960 --> 1:43:15.360 sounds like that was off the table. How are we 1:43:15.360 --> 1:43:15.680 going to do? 1:43:15.800 --> 1:43:15.920 So? 1:43:15.960 --> 1:43:17.600 What do you do with the cyclones? If they shut that, 1:43:17.680 --> 1:43:19.360 they blow the arena up and it's closed for two years, 1:43:19.360 --> 1:43:20.160 what are they gonna play? 1:43:20.600 --> 1:43:22.200 I guess they could take over. 1:43:22.479 --> 1:43:25.000 Or would they go to Kentucky? 1:43:25.520 --> 1:43:27.320 I probably would you play? 1:43:27.320 --> 1:43:28.880 You can't plan. I'm thinking where you play like Sports 1:43:28.920 --> 1:43:31.040 Plus had never hold it or Northland. It's not you're 1:43:31.080 --> 1:43:33.080 not gonna get seating there. So what did it have 1:43:33.200 --> 1:43:33.559 to be at? 1:43:33.680 --> 1:43:33.840 Uh? 1:43:33.920 --> 1:43:36.880 Yeah, because they see ten thousand heritage, do they. 1:43:36.760 --> 1:43:38.919 Have ice capacity at Northern Kentucky. 1:43:39.200 --> 1:43:41.960 You can lay some lice, lay some ice anywhere. I 1:43:42.000 --> 1:43:42.639 guess you. 1:43:42.560 --> 1:43:44.240 Can't need a refrigeration. I mean, I guess you could 1:43:44.240 --> 1:43:46.040 do a raise thing like they do for the Winter Classic, 1:43:46.080 --> 1:43:47.960 But I don't know how you freeze that if there's. 1:43:47.800 --> 1:43:50.639 No Well, the arena managers, well, I guess they put 1:43:50.680 --> 1:43:53.879 everything on top of ice constantly for concerts and comedians. 1:43:54.280 --> 1:43:57.400 But the ice, the the integration for the ice is 1:43:57.439 --> 1:43:59.360 below the surface too. He's gonna have to refrigerate it. 1:43:59.360 --> 1:44:00.760 So I don't know if they floating. I don't know 1:44:00.760 --> 1:44:01.200 how they do it. 1:44:01.280 --> 1:44:01.960 Yeah, I don't know either. 1:44:02.040 --> 1:44:03.519 I have to be Northern Kentucky if they do it. 1:44:03.560 --> 1:44:05.400 But that's interesting. 1:44:04.880 --> 1:44:08.000 Anyway, Go to Dayton, send them up to Dayton, Google 1:44:08.080 --> 1:44:08.519 play there. 1:44:08.680 --> 1:44:09.720 Selfishly, I don't want that. 1:44:09.800 --> 1:44:10.920 Yeah, that's kind of a drunk right now. 1:44:10.960 --> 1:44:13.360 I'm a mile away, so I'm like, stick around here 1:44:13.400 --> 1:44:16.280 somehow find out. But they do deserve a new arena, all. 1:44:16.240 --> 1:44:18.120 Right, snorts. Give me a prediction for tomorrow. What do 1:44:18.200 --> 1:44:21.240 you got, Bengals? Oh my gosh, I think it's to 1:44:21.439 --> 1:44:23.600 Steelers six. Is that where you're going with? 1:44:24.000 --> 1:44:24.360 No? 1:44:24.640 --> 1:44:29.919 Oh my gosh. Twenty seventeen, Bengals twenty seventeen, Moneymack twenty seventeen. 1:44:30.000 --> 1:44:31.639 You want at the end to win it a sixty 1:44:31.640 --> 1:44:32.280 seven yarder? 1:44:32.360 --> 1:44:32.760 All right? 1:44:33.479 --> 1:44:34.560 What do you think? 1:44:35.960 --> 1:44:37.920 I think it's going to be ready for this one? Ready? 1:44:38.080 --> 1:44:38.640 One? 1:44:38.880 --> 1:44:42.040 Twenty four to twenty four tie? Swear? 1:44:42.560 --> 1:44:45.200 Can we please stop the ties and everything? 1:44:45.280 --> 1:44:46.519 It's so bad? I hate tis. 1:44:46.600 --> 1:44:48.439 It's just play until you win. 1:44:48.960 --> 1:44:50.360 So many dice falls over, that's the game. 1:44:50.479 --> 1:44:52.920 Like baseball. You gotta go to fifteen innings to get 1:44:52.920 --> 1:44:54.240 it done, and so be it. 1:44:54.280 --> 1:44:56.040 Keep Southern death. That's fine if you need to do 1:44:56.080 --> 1:44:58.160 the the overtimerals, but just keep going to you get 1:44:58.160 --> 1:44:59.120 a winner. Ties are dumb. 1:44:59.280 --> 1:44:59.880 I hate it. 1:45:00.080 --> 1:45:02.120 Yeah, what are the Packers now? Three? One and one? 1:45:02.240 --> 1:45:05.200 This is in soccer, stupid, No, and soccer shouldn't end 1:45:05.200 --> 1:45:07.439 in a tie either. Just go un till your score. 1:45:07.720 --> 1:45:11.200 Snart Reports gets me trigger every Wednesday Morning Football, Tomar 1:45:11.320 --> 1:45:13.240 and the Natty Thursday Night Football is here and we 1:45:13.320 --> 1:45:14.400 got the game for you and the home and the 1:45:14.400 --> 1:45:16.799 best Bengals coverage seven hundred W Dobody, Cincinnat