Speaker 1: American wait to midweek. Here we go Scott Sloan back
Speaker 1: on seven hundred W wellw he called it intolerable. One
Speaker 1: of the latest, the longest list of adjectives I've ever
Speaker 1: heard about crime in Cincinnati. The new one is intolerable.
Speaker 1: That would be your adjective of the day, is what
Speaker 1: mayor have to have. Puerval called the violence downtown the
Speaker 1: back to back shootings on Fountain Square and says significant
Speaker 1: changes are coming after all that. So we're going to
Speaker 1: see swat on Fountain Square. We're going to see the
Speaker 1: Civil Disturbance Response Team whatever that is, on Fountain Square,
Speaker 1: and it's going to look like parts of Gaza. Chief
Speaker 1: Terry Thiji is commanding her officers to make contact with
Speaker 1: people for even the most minor offenses. That's called the
Speaker 1: broken windows theory of policing, which is just absolutely as
Speaker 1: sailed for years by progressives, is just punching down on
Speaker 1: people and stopping them and causing distrust in the community.
Speaker 1: And now, guess what turns out that strategy might work
Speaker 1: a little bit. Huh. But before the Mayor's Presser Council
Speaker 1: had a public safety hearing yesterday, it was really hard
Speaker 1: to hear that, and you could hear the frustration from residents. Listen,
Speaker 1: I am not able to tell future tenants since they
Speaker 1: would be safe.
Speaker 2: I've been down the district to a couple times myself.
Speaker 2: I just don't feel like we're getting the results that
Speaker 2: we need to make our tenants feel safe.
Speaker 3: It feels like something has shifted.
Speaker 1: Two of our best friends who live in the neighborhood
Speaker 1: have decided to move.
Speaker 2: The violence has just gotten out of control.
Speaker 1: Honest and more is council member Anna, I'll be with
Speaker 1: law in public safety. She sits on the committee and
Speaker 1: sat through that difficult testimony yesterday, Anna, good morning, how
Speaker 1: you been by?
Speaker 4: Good morning?
Speaker 2: Thanks got me.
Speaker 4: I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, your reaction when you're sitting there listening to
Speaker 1: all these people say, look, I have his investment of property,
Speaker 1: and I'm a landlord who I feel him is imagine going, hey,
Speaker 1: I have people who won't rent because they afraid they're
Speaker 1: going to get shot, or someone has said, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: my circle of friends, they're all moving out because they've
Speaker 1: got small kids, or they just fear their safety. That
Speaker 1: was some of the most compelling testimony I think I've
Speaker 1: heard in a long time, and it shows you how
Speaker 1: far gone things are. What was your immediate reaction.
Speaker 4: Well, immediately in the moment, I made sure my staff
Speaker 4: got all those folks contact information, and I was taking
Speaker 4: diligent notes. You know, I take all of this very
Speaker 4: very seriously. You know, public safety, making sure people feel
Speaker 4: safe is my number one priority, and I know that shared.
Speaker 4: So I followed up afterwards with the city manager and
Speaker 4: the police chief listing out the issues that we heard.
Speaker 4: I took notice on the exact location, so you know
Speaker 4: we're going to take action here. I also spoke was
Speaker 4: the assistant police chief yesterday about another issue that was
Speaker 4: brought to my attention. So we're really taking action here
Speaker 4: and using police based solutions to really dig into what's
Speaker 4: happening in this specific spot to make sure that we
Speaker 4: can everyone feels safe, feel safe in our safe right.
Speaker 4: It's exception plus reality.
Speaker 1: I'm here with the grape Vines about well, we heard
Speaker 1: this morning about Jeff Ruby's Lempica, which used to be
Speaker 1: the main location in the art deco restaurant on Seventh Street,
Speaker 1: and they've now turned that into an event space. Actually,
Speaker 1: I was at a wedding there a few months ago
Speaker 1: and this absolute spectacular is way over the top. It's
Speaker 1: so nice. They're closing that location and mainly a beef
Speaker 1: with the landlord with Town Properties, which I get because
Speaker 1: they there's some safety issues like doors not being locked
Speaker 1: and things like that, and so we don't feel safe
Speaker 1: and our businesses compromise. So we're closing that up despite
Speaker 1: a huge investment in that. Don't know what it's going
Speaker 1: to become in the future, if anything, but that's a loss,
Speaker 1: and they're moving their business operations to Walnut Street. But
Speaker 1: you know, behind these scenes, I guess they're hearing rumors
Speaker 1: that there's maybe some threats there, saying, hey, we if
Speaker 1: we got gun you know, people shooting each other on
Speaker 1: Fountain Square across from our beautiful flagship restaurant on Fountain Square.
Speaker 1: And now we've had the shooting the other we had
Speaker 1: what two shootings in the last few days on Fountain Square,
Speaker 1: like right in front of Rubies. That's not a place
Speaker 1: where people are gonna feel safe coming to our client.
Speaker 1: Tell it's not gonna be safe. We're gonna have to
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to move. Losing that would send I
Speaker 1: think a tuttle wave of problems for those who sit
Speaker 1: on council and those who seek to be re elected
Speaker 1: or elected might be a good thing for them. But
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true or not, Anna, but
Speaker 1: that that's really really telling there. If we have flagship restaurants,
Speaker 1: if we have the culinary name in Cincinnati going, we
Speaker 1: can't be in Cincinnati. You lost.
Speaker 4: So I can't comment on you know, the speaks of
Speaker 4: landlords or any of that details. I know probably as
Speaker 4: much as you reading in the press. But again, this
Speaker 4: council and mayor and administration, we're truly taking action. You
Speaker 4: heard yesterday from the slice chief and the mayor new
Speaker 4: plans around Sountain Square, both from looking at transportation patterns,
Speaker 4: what we need to do to kind of spread out
Speaker 4: the people and make sure that we have better coverage,
Speaker 4: also bringing in additional support from law enforcement. So that
Speaker 4: is the work we're doing. I mean, I think what
Speaker 4: was most shocking to me was the most recent recent
Speaker 4: is it. Where's the fact that we had four officers there?
Speaker 1: Yep?
Speaker 4: Right, and that's that's just shocking behavior. I think we
Speaker 4: all just have to name it that that is insane.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: However, many years ago, knowing that four officers were a
Speaker 4: matter of yards away from you would have been at
Speaker 4: the turrent. So you know this, this is a new level,
Speaker 4: and we are stepping up to the plate to provide
Speaker 4: more resources, new resources, partnering with the governor, partnering with
Speaker 4: the sheriff's office, doing all of that work to really
Speaker 4: try to tackle what's happening.
Speaker 1: But isn't that an indication Anna that it's too far gone?
Speaker 1: I mean that that you know, it's not like everyon's
Speaker 1: gonna pull up stakes. But you know, all this action now, okay, great,
Speaker 1: but if the bad guys aren't obeying law enforcement, there's
Speaker 1: a cop standing right there, I'm gonna shoot at you anyway.
Speaker 1: All the adjectives, all the superlatives, all the patrols, all
Speaker 1: the curfews. What you're saying is it hasn't done anything
Speaker 1: to stop the violence. And that then tells me that
Speaker 1: we moved that that our leaders moved way too late
Speaker 1: on us.
Speaker 4: You know, here, here's what I would say. It would
Speaker 4: be really helpful if we had support from the state
Speaker 4: in terms of laws, because there are too many guns
Speaker 4: on our street. And you know, I'm going to talk
Speaker 4: about this all day. It is too easy to get
Speaker 4: firearms legally and too we can get them easily illegally
Speaker 4: as well. And so it'll be really great if Ohio
Speaker 4: had some stronger gun laws or we could actually go
Speaker 4: after getting somewhere climbs off the street harder. And you
Speaker 4: know that's part of the work of the Crime Gun
Speaker 4: Intelligence Center, and we partner with the APS with local
Speaker 4: law inslacement, the Ohio State Controls helping us with us like,
Speaker 4: there are too many guns, and I think we just
Speaker 4: all need this acknowledge are too many guns on our streets.
Speaker 4: And that is why I'm really passionate about we need
Speaker 4: stronger laws at the state level, hopefully at the federal
Speaker 4: level that actually empower us to go get the firearms
Speaker 4: pot of the handle games.
Speaker 5: With the people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me push back on that. A couple of points.
Speaker 1: Number one would be we have federal laws. The law
Speaker 1: says if you are a felon and you you're carrying
Speaker 1: a gun, you've now escalated that you go to prison.
Speaker 1: And yet we have judges ardi progressive judges that see
Speaker 1: juveniles and see people go, oh, you got a gun.
Speaker 1: You're not supposed to have a gun. You cut your ankle, bonder, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're good, go ahead, It's fine, we'll catch it a
Speaker 1: later date. I mean, weep. You keep calling for tougher laws,
Speaker 1: but you're not enforcing the laws of the books. Why
Speaker 1: aren't we getting tougher with people who are who end
Speaker 1: up getting jammed up with a gun and they right
Speaker 1: out of a felony. That's that's called having a gun
Speaker 1: and disability. And I'm sorry, but we have judges in
Speaker 1: Cincinnati that allow that.
Speaker 4: Hey, our judges are making sure that laws are performed
Speaker 4: and executed.
Speaker 1: Are they're not? Otherwise they wouldn't have this.
Speaker 4: Hey, agree to disagree on this one, right, That's that's fair.
Speaker 4: But you know, at the end of the day, I
Speaker 4: think we have too many guns. I support the work
Speaker 4: of our Crime Intelligence Center going after those because it
Speaker 4: was shocking to me to watch the video in the
Speaker 4: prep sumping gestrict with the police chief and how casually
Speaker 4: someone was able to just pull gun out, shoot shoot
Speaker 4: at people and walk away. Right, That's that's horrific.
Speaker 1: We can all because they know there's now consequences if
Speaker 1: I do that.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean officers are on the scene pretty pretty quickly, right,
Speaker 4: So like now it's a matter of putting together the
Speaker 4: case and going through with that and that again, that
Speaker 4: is where we have to do often to the job
Speaker 4: from the city perspective of putting together strong cases so
Speaker 4: our judges have all the information. And frankly, we're doing
Speaker 4: work to working with the judicial system on improving our
Speaker 4: technology in the courtrooms making sure that information is more
Speaker 4: readily available that we had that we were able to
Speaker 4: provide all that case information. So here's the I'm the
Speaker 4: only only kid in my family who's not a lawyer.
Speaker 4: My brother is actually a prosecutor in the Federal Office
Speaker 4: and VC. But you know these lawyers, you know, having
Speaker 4: making sure the prosecutors have all the information that day
Speaker 4: in front of them with technology, that is a big
Speaker 4: challenge right now. So we are working the city puts
Speaker 4: dollars together and there's a whole kind of task force
Speaker 4: with our judges where we're making sure that we're empowering
Speaker 4: our judges and our prosecutors and our officers with all
Speaker 4: the technology to make sure all that information is at
Speaker 4: their fingertips when need decisions for being made out the court.
Speaker 1: But the problem is they're not. And you know, I
Speaker 1: don't think gun laws may do something in the future,
Speaker 1: probably not, because any I think The other element of
Speaker 1: two analoby is how are the people, especially juveniles, getting guns? Well,
Speaker 1: they're breaking into cars. Well, why are people live in
Speaker 1: guns and cars? Is because I think a couple of things.
Speaker 1: Number one would be there's a lot of places we
Speaker 1: are not allowed to carry by law, and so I say, hey,
Speaker 1: I don't feel safe in Cincinnati. If I come downtown,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come with a gun. I'll come heavy and okay,
Speaker 1: if I got to go somewhere to leave in my car,
Speaker 1: I think that's just a It's like a self fulfilling prophecy.
Speaker 1: The more unsafe people feel, the more they feel they
Speaker 1: need to arm themselves. They can't bring it in, so
Speaker 1: they're leaving the car, which encourages people to break into
Speaker 1: cars and steal guns.
Speaker 4: You know, I have talked about secure firem storageing cars
Speaker 4: and force. So I know, no, this is a place
Speaker 4: where we can both agree in terms of making sure
Speaker 4: that you know, if a gun, if you're bringing it downtown,
Speaker 4: but sure legal right, let's have it locked up right.
Speaker 4: So we're doing a couple of things. One, we're increasing
Speaker 4: our requirements when it comes to parking garages and parking
Speaker 4: lots on what's needed in terms of better lighting, camera, landscaping, security.
Speaker 4: And then we're also going to have PtD go out
Speaker 4: and provide a feeding system for all those garages. So
Speaker 4: you as I responsible suchizens driving downtown to say, oh
Speaker 4: because of an ADC or D whatever the scale is,
Speaker 4: this is a safe place that's meeting the security requirements.
Speaker 4: This isn't right, So caret and a stick approach. But
Speaker 4: in addition to that, I've been working with CPD and
Speaker 4: we've started handing out gun safe for cars. At the
Speaker 4: last few home bangals games, that's the home most opener.
Speaker 4: We had over seventy seven people come up and grab
Speaker 4: a gun law. And so that's the work I'm trying.
Speaker 1: To do it. As a gun owner myself, I like, okay,
Speaker 1: I think you know, I hate more burden that people
Speaker 1: like myself because the overwhelming majority, almost all the gunners
Speaker 1: are responsible people. You know, talk about the guns on
Speaker 1: the streets and it's getting out there because responsible people
Speaker 1: are tired of de policing and you know, the lack
Speaker 1: enforcement of our laws. I got all these laws that
Speaker 1: I have to buy buy as a Second Amendment rights holder,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't feel like the criminal element cares about
Speaker 1: that they're going to rob my stuff. That's the frustration.
Speaker 1: But I agree. I think that if you're responsible gun,
Speaker 1: there's got to be something relative to making sure you're
Speaker 1: gun when it's stored safely, not just in a you know,
Speaker 1: a console or a glove box or into the seat
Speaker 1: or sect something along those lines. It has to be
Speaker 1: in a physical safe that that should be by rule.
Speaker 1: She's council member and I'll be sits on law in
Speaker 1: public safety, hearing it from citizens yesterday in a meeting,
Speaker 1: people saying what am I going to tell prospective tenants
Speaker 1: if they ask if it are going to be safe
Speaker 1: downtown and people moving out, and it is unraveling when
Speaker 1: you see gunfire on consecutive and what three over the
Speaker 1: course of a weekend. Basically we had two shootouts the
Speaker 1: other one of the other night where someone who was
Speaker 1: sitting at City Bird and someone pulls out a gun,
Speaker 1: fires a couple of shots in the window. Still haven't
Speaker 1: caught the guy yet, And I think we need to
Speaker 1: make examples of these people. I really really do on that.
Speaker 1: One of the problems is, as I understand it, as
Speaker 1: you understand it too, isn't it like people getting off
Speaker 1: at the metro station at Government Square and then that's
Speaker 1: where the beats start.
Speaker 4: So I think it's lots of you know, people getting
Speaker 4: off specifically there, and more of just how do we
Speaker 4: spread out kind of the mass of people, if that
Speaker 4: makes sense. Right, We have a lot of people coming
Speaker 4: in at once. So that's part of the what the
Speaker 4: mayor is working with sorta on is, hey, how do
Speaker 4: we kind of distribute these bus routes a little bit
Speaker 4: more again, makes it easier for us to have you know,
Speaker 4: coverage when it comes to officers and all of that. So,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not I just want to be really clear.
Speaker 4: There is no part of this so they're saying that
Speaker 4: people use our wonderful public transportation or criminals. That's not
Speaker 4: what we're saying. But we're trying to use some place
Speaker 4: based problem solving here, right, And if we're seeing, you know,
Speaker 4: kind of a cluster of issues happening around one space,
Speaker 4: how can we spread out the people the bodies right
Speaker 4: to maybe just use some of the conflicts because what
Speaker 4: I'm under how I understand it is some of these
Speaker 4: are starting as personal talk with right, Like people are
Speaker 4: getting into fights and unfortunately they're armed and that's vuccivating.
Speaker 1: That's that's what the last two we're talking about worst,
Speaker 1: you know, just stupid street between people who knew each other.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and that's where some of the reflections
Speaker 4: I've been doing frankly, over the past day and a half,
Speaker 4: it's been it's just been around, how do we, you know,
Speaker 4: teach conflict resolution. I know that sounds maybe very basic,
Speaker 4: but you know, how do we help people even starting
Speaker 4: in our schools, and these are conversations I've had with
Speaker 4: our school boards, start kind of teaching conflict rushes at
Speaker 4: a young age so people can learn how that's turned
Speaker 4: down the temperature, sure, because it's just it's just you know,
Speaker 4: too easy.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's true of all of us. But that
Speaker 1: doesn't fix the now we have. You know, we have
Speaker 1: adults acting like toddlers and they have guns, and that's
Speaker 1: the unfortunate part. My point is, and maybe something that
Speaker 1: should be explored is I'll be honest with you, I
Speaker 1: and when I talk to cops and others saying, you know, Metro,
Speaker 1: it's like this funnel and not you're certainly not everyone
Speaker 1: who's ride the Metro that most people are just trying
Speaker 1: to get from point A to point being lived their lives,
Speaker 1: but you've got criminal elements on there, kind of looking
Speaker 1: for trouble. We've heard horror stories about metrobuster evers getting
Speaker 1: shot and everything else. And it largely centers around Metro,
Speaker 1: the Government Square station, and it's such a critical area
Speaker 1: to our infrastructure that's now spilling over to Fountain Square itself.
Speaker 1: You know, we have the Fort Washingtonway underground garage. It's
Speaker 1: not going used. And I know the cry was, well
Speaker 1: it's too far from Fountain Square. You know what you need.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but if for me I've closed that Government
Speaker 1: Square Metro station, I'd make it a stop. I'd move
Speaker 1: everything to Fort Washington Way. You have an entrance and
Speaker 1: egress points. You can monitor that with cameras. You could
Speaker 1: have gun spotder technology, face technology. You have a confined
Speaker 1: area that you can easily police and shut it down
Speaker 1: if you have to, and you can control who's coming
Speaker 1: in and coming out. More importantly, keep an eye on
Speaker 1: people and lock it down if you have to. To get
Speaker 1: a bad guy with a gun and then run, I
Speaker 1: don't know, run a shuttle or a bus that looks
Speaker 1: like a trolley to Fountain Square to get people there.
Speaker 1: It just seems to me like you got to get
Speaker 1: that Metro station at Government Square is a problem. I
Speaker 1: think we got to shut that down and move it.
Speaker 4: I think everything worth discussing. For now, it's the kind
Speaker 4: of changing the route to disperse that kind of cluster
Speaker 4: Government Square, So you know, that is a step in
Speaker 4: the right direction. Again, I want to make sure that
Speaker 4: in this conversation we're not dehumanizing people run the pride
Speaker 4: of the bus because you know, personally, I feel very
Speaker 4: passionately that we have a working public transit and infrastructure
Speaker 4: because it's important right how most people are just getting
Speaker 4: to their jobs, and it's also how in some of
Speaker 4: our kids are getting to schools, people getting to you
Speaker 4: know whatever.
Speaker 1: Fund Well, they don't deserve all this. That's the point
Speaker 1: you're trying to protect them. We're trying to protect them
Speaker 1: by saying, hey, listen, we'll just run We'll run a
Speaker 1: shuttle to Fountain Square for those people, another bus to
Speaker 1: Fountain Square. It doesn't seem that hard.
Speaker 4: Yeah, again, I'm open to all these conversations with Metro.
Speaker 4: You know, they they are the experts on their bus routes.
Speaker 4: But for now that we are working collaboratively with them
Speaker 4: on this kind of first step to this verse, those
Speaker 4: bus routes try to spread out the crowd to your
Speaker 4: point of like what we have too many people kind
Speaker 4: of concentrate on one spot and just one of those
Speaker 4: people have to be up to no goods to cause
Speaker 4: sify issues for everyone else. And I think that also
Speaker 4: comes with frankly, you know, for officers who are down there.
Speaker 4: You heard from the Chief yesterday talking through art we
Speaker 4: got we got to be alert, right, We've got to
Speaker 4: have our eyes out open for what could be happening.
Speaker 4: And that's to where you know, we have community advocates
Speaker 4: who are down there and you know, learning simple kind
Speaker 4: of this is what a body language triggers of like
Speaker 4: oh that could be turning into a fight. For being
Speaker 4: much more aware and picking up on that faster. And
Speaker 4: that's what I heard from the chief right yesterday and
Speaker 4: her remarks with the press conference is Okay, we a
Speaker 4: CPD are going to step up here. We're going to
Speaker 4: be watching out for that a lot more. And you know,
Speaker 4: again using our composts, resition, be escalation skills to make
Speaker 4: sure that those personal fights are not turning into gunfire.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 4: That's ultimately where we got.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. I mean, we can teach
Speaker 1: it in the schools and all that stuff, but I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: there's a there's a percentage of the population that are
Speaker 1: freaking animals. What we saw yes to what we were
Speaker 1: talking about. He is animalistic, predatory, sociopathic behavior. There's people
Speaker 1: out there that are worth saving, but there's some that aren't,
Speaker 1: and we we've got to come to terms of that
Speaker 1: and segregate them for society because all this, we've got
Speaker 1: to change them and thick that might happen in another
Speaker 1: generation or two maybe, but probably not. But we've got
Speaker 1: to address to here and now. The people that are
Speaker 1: shooting on Fountain Square. I' mean a guest that the
Speaker 1: guy who fired the shots at City Bird probably shouldn't
Speaker 1: have had that gun in the first place, and I
Speaker 1: would I question the need for more laws if we
Speaker 1: don't take those people off the streets the minute they
Speaker 1: use a gun and commission of a crime.
Speaker 4: You and I have no disagreement on people who shouldn't
Speaker 4: have guns. It should and shouldn't have guns. Right if
Speaker 4: someone's going to be using a firearm that lately for
Speaker 4: criminal activity, should not have a gun. And that's again
Speaker 4: why I go back to it would be really great
Speaker 4: if we actually had background check on every single gun
Speaker 4: sale beyond just the certified sellers, but you know Facebook,
Speaker 4: gun sales, things out of people's trunks all that, so
Speaker 4: we could actually be able to have, you know, a
Speaker 4: way to enforce, hey, you are a bad guy. You
Speaker 4: should not have a gun.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 4: And then in terms of the hearing, now, that is
Speaker 4: why we are pulling out all the stops, in terms
Speaker 4: of our local CPD, working on patrol, bringing in reinforcement
Speaker 4: from Ohio State Patrol right to really be out there
Speaker 4: in the community, watching out for these instances and hopefully
Speaker 4: intervening before they accalate.
Speaker 1: Let me, I've got just a second here, and I
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Back on that in the Highway patrol, that's
Speaker 1: a really good point is from what we heard is
Speaker 1: you know, the governor reached out some time ago and
Speaker 1: we're still waiting for Okay, I guess the Highway Patrol
Speaker 1: is going to come in, and now we have all right,
Speaker 1: we had another shooting and so now we have SWAT officers.
Speaker 1: It looks like parts of Gaza now on Fountain Square
Speaker 1: and this guy I don't know. It seems like, okay,
Speaker 1: now we're doing that and the optics that are tough,
Speaker 1: But why why don't we if we just brought troopers
Speaker 1: into enforced the highways, we could have regular cops, more
Speaker 1: of them on the street. Why are we fighting against
Speaker 1: the set? Why are we leaning into the state and
Speaker 1: having more officers more troopers come in so.
Speaker 4: We do have the troopers coming in helping, I'm going
Speaker 4: to go back to the crime done.
Speaker 1: Because like two days a month or something stupid like that.
Speaker 1: That's what's that going to do.
Speaker 4: Of our capacity? Right when we have big busts I
Speaker 4: don't know a better technical term than that of you know,
Speaker 4: these big investigations to take a lot of man so
Speaker 4: having support, but that does free up our GPD local
Speaker 4: officers to be out patrolling our neighborhoods. And frankly, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna be honest when it comes to kind of patrolling
Speaker 4: in our neighborhoods, I still stand by you know, sometimes
Speaker 4: Believe has amazing training when it comes to collaborative agreement,
Speaker 4: comes to de escalation. They have relationships with our residence too,
Speaker 4: and that is very, very important because having that quest
Speaker 4: of law enforcement makes a difference when you're interacting in
Speaker 4: the neighborhoods. So I stand by all of that, But
Speaker 4: when it comes to these bigger operations, yeah, let's bring in,
Speaker 4: bring in support and having you know, swat out state
Speaker 4: control supporting these like hot spots right now.
Speaker 1: Sure, But again it took too long. I mean, that
Speaker 1: was something was offered a couple of months ago after
Speaker 1: you know, after the brawl and went July, and here
Speaker 1: it is, we're almost in the November at this point,
Speaker 1: and now we're like, okay, now they're fire, We're going
Speaker 1: to get them a couple of days. It just it
Speaker 1: just seems like we're I don't know, fighting against law enforcement.
Speaker 1: Then we just turn around, puts a lot of us
Speaker 1: on the street. How any different is that than having
Speaker 1: National guardsmen out there? They look the same.
Speaker 4: Well, national guardsmen are not trained in our collaborative agreement.
Speaker 4: They're not they don't know our people. And frankly, that
Speaker 4: the scenes I've seen coming out of Chicago with Ice said.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I have the National guard I'm saying it,
Speaker 1: that's what it looks like. It's the same. What's the
Speaker 1: difference between local squad offers and that as far in
Speaker 1: the court of public opinion. And yeah, I get the
Speaker 1: training element, but I think people see that you see
Speaker 1: paramilitary troopers that are either squat or now it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: You've got guys in tactical gears standing on that Fountain
Speaker 1: Square to intimidate the bad guys. It's the same look.
Speaker 4: I you know, for me, I will say, I don't
Speaker 4: think living in a police state, and that's why I
Speaker 4: think I'm hearing from me living in a police state
Speaker 4: isn't our perfect version of safety. And I agree, right,
Speaker 4: but to your point, like there's a crisis right now
Speaker 4: and we're doing everything we can, and if you know,
Speaker 4: four cops standing on Fountain Square wasn't enough, and you
Speaker 4: know what's the next step. So it's really a balance here, right,
Speaker 4: I mean, I agree, I don't think having a police
Speaker 4: date is is where we want to be. But if
Speaker 4: we are, you know, have so many guns in the street,
Speaker 4: and we've got to bring in help.
Speaker 5: To to de escalate and keep those.
Speaker 4: Guns, you know, out of the wrong hands. We're going
Speaker 4: to do it right now because again, like we're taking
Speaker 4: this all very seriously, and I want to follow up,
Speaker 4: go back to where you're started the conversation in terms
Speaker 4: of what we heard from public facey public commenters yesterday,
Speaker 4: following up immediately, in fact, I'd already been my O office,
Speaker 4: had already been in contact with one of the gentlemen
Speaker 4: and got you know, an email after immediately, and we're
Speaker 4: working quickly here, and I go back to problem solving
Speaker 4: and how do we address these issues at the spot right,
Speaker 4: we heard some.
Speaker 1: Weed we needed to and I had to touch off,
Speaker 1: but I got to get going way away over like
Speaker 1: she's conc member and I'll be law in public safety.
Speaker 1: I know we just addressed a lot there, but I
Speaker 1: appreciate your thoughtful consideration and conversation and in the back
Speaker 1: and forth was really good. Hopefully people listen to this
Speaker 1: and and and the right people listen to this, so
Speaker 1: we get some answered soon because this date, I'll agree
Speaker 1: with the mayor. It's intolerable for sure. Hey, all the best.
Speaker 1: Good luck on the campaign. I know you're doing that
Speaker 1: as well, seeking the reelection and council. Anna, thanks for
Speaker 1: coming on the show. Be well, good luck, appreciate it. Thanks,
Speaker 1: take care. We got to get the news, run the light.
Speaker 1: We'll get your reaction to this, so more gun laws
Speaker 1: will solve this. Well, then let's talk about that coming
Speaker 1: up next on seven hundred W them Scott's Loan Here,
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW. I was gonna have time to get
Speaker 1: to play some of the Terry Thigi audio. It's Cincinnati's Grandma,
Speaker 1: Terry Thigi, and she can tell there's frustration with her too,
Speaker 1: and the press conference after press conference, Scott's Loan here,
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW, last fight, Anna ol beyond council member.
Speaker 1: I'll be law in public safety, she thought. Through the testimony,
Speaker 1: people saying, look, what am I going to tell my
Speaker 1: tenants people want to rent from me? I own property.
Speaker 1: I'm a business owner, and I need bodies to move downtown.
Speaker 1: I don't need bodies moving away from downtown. What do
Speaker 1: I tell tenants to say? Ask the question am I
Speaker 1: going to be safe? Will I be safe? I don't
Speaker 1: have an answer for that, or people going listen, I tried.
Speaker 1: I mean, I bought into Cincinnati and the urban thing,
Speaker 1: and I just I can't do it anymore. It's just
Speaker 1: the dangers all over the place. And there are people say, well,
Speaker 1: statistically it's fine, Well you don't live in statistics, do you.
Speaker 1: And that's why another reason I hate numbers, I hate
Speaker 1: the statistics it is because of that. It's like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't live in statistics, man, I know what I see.
Speaker 1: Same thing when you watch a football game, numberrow and
Speaker 1: Joe Flack will make a completion that had a one
Speaker 1: point two percent chance of being successful. Okay, then why
Speaker 1: would you throw that ball? So the numbers are always
Speaker 1: what they are, right, And it's perception. And I'm sorry
Speaker 1: when I see people shooting across Fountain Square at each other,
Speaker 1: when I see some guy recognizing someoney at a beef
Speaker 1: with and he settles beef by pulling out a gun
Speaker 1: and shooting rounds through cityberg Chicken on Fountain Square and
Speaker 1: then runs away like it's just me and him. It's
Speaker 1: our world, you know, the time for the time for
Speaker 1: feel goods. And I'm sorry that's over. You got at
Speaker 1: some point, you got split wigs. That's what this is.
Speaker 1: And Fiji said yesterday and it's about time that what
Speaker 1: they're going to do is restore broken windows policing, which
Speaker 1: basically means we're going after the little stuff. We see
Speaker 1: you jaywalking, we see you smoking a joint, we see
Speaker 1: you doing something that technically is we're going to make
Speaker 1: contact with you. Screw. I was rallying her, feels the
Speaker 1: hell with her, this is what we're gonna do. And
Speaker 1: then how about this other element instead of and she
Speaker 1: proposed that we need more gun laws. We do not
Speaker 1: need more gun laws. We don't need more laws restricting
Speaker 1: the Again, most Americans ninety nine percent plus are completely
Speaker 1: law abiding and use their guns responsibly. And I get it.
Speaker 1: We've got a lot of guns out there because every
Speaker 1: time we propose more gun laws, people buy more guns.
Speaker 1: And the same thing happens in Cincinnati. Okay, well, why
Speaker 1: do we have somebody guns on the street. We have
Speaker 1: so many guns on the street because when people go
Speaker 1: downtown who have to liver work there, they're scared because
Speaker 1: of stuff like this. Because you've ignored the problem for
Speaker 1: so long, Mayor, and and largely progressives and Democrats, you've
Speaker 1: forgotten and you know all the programs and the money,
Speaker 1: we're fun and we're doing well. We can't. We can't
Speaker 1: have ostracized kids. And they're young kids and they deserve
Speaker 1: a chance. I'm sorry, when you pick up a gun,
Speaker 1: your chances are over. Enough of this nonsense, and because
Speaker 1: of all this death and destroy and the threat of
Speaker 1: somebody like Ruby's pulling out of downtown. Can you imagine,
Speaker 1: and people moving out of downtown, And now all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, it's like, well, you know all these feel
Speaker 1: good things that we thought were good in theory in
Speaker 1: reality like that, it doesn't work. So now we got
Speaker 1: to split wigs. Good. We should be doing that. We
Speaker 1: should be doing that. But the idea that we have
Speaker 1: more gun laws, well, okay, great, we have gun laws,
Speaker 1: and people are coming downtown because they're scared they have guns,
Speaker 1: and their signs up saying don't bring your gun anywhere,
Speaker 1: So I leave at my car, and then people are
Speaker 1: breaking into cars because they know that's where the guns are.
Speaker 1: It's a self fulfilling prophecy. How do you end that thing?
Speaker 1: You start making examples of the people are committing gun crimes.
Speaker 1: When somebody cuts an ankle monitor off, you don't wait
Speaker 1: a month, two weeks, a year later and go, well,
Speaker 1: we'll get you. When you get you, well maybe they'll
Speaker 1: turn themselves in. You go and you get a task
Speaker 1: force and you bring them to justice. Like I said,
Speaker 1: how many times is it? This twenty four year old
Speaker 1: it's not his first time at the road. You guarantee it.
Speaker 1: You just don't wake up one day and pull out
Speaker 1: a gun and shoot at someone. They's got to have pride.
Speaker 1: There's no roo almost willing to bet the house that
Speaker 1: that guy is restricted from having a gun. He's under disability.
Speaker 1: I mean he had a prior felony at twenty four.
Speaker 1: He shouldn't have that gun. Well, we got to pass
Speaker 1: laws to make sure people like that. No, what we
Speaker 1: have to do is take people like that and go
Speaker 1: you go to prison for thirty years for that like
Speaker 1: we used to. But then, oh, but you know society
Speaker 1: people are there's backlash and this is what happens when
Speaker 1: you don't do that. It's exactly what happens when you
Speaker 1: don't do that. And now you know they're throwing out
Speaker 1: how many more adjectives? Is aft have pure hole going
Speaker 1: to use? Today's at the adjective it's like Sesame Street
Speaker 1: with Grover not The adjective of the day is intolerable. Yeah, okay, great,
Speaker 1: and tomorrow will be something else, a bond bull or
Speaker 1: you're gonna run out eventually. It's significant changes are coming
Speaker 1: after violence downtown. What are they doing? They're having swat
Speaker 1: in the civil Disturfence Response team and Okay, what we
Speaker 1: don't want is the National Guard here, and we don't
Speaker 1: want the State of Ohio here because it makes us
Speaker 1: look bad. What's the optics of having Thursday night football
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati downtown. They show that shot of Fountain Square
Speaker 1: and what you see are I'm sorry, paramilitary troops that
Speaker 1: are swat officers. There's a bit of a difference there.
Speaker 1: I get that, but I'm sorry someone the average person
Speaker 1: looks at someone an individual who's got tactical gear on,
Speaker 1: got a vest, you're all strapped down, you got your
Speaker 1: tactical helmet on, you got your visors, you're carrying a
Speaker 1: long gun. You're standing on Fountain Square. People see that
Speaker 1: and go paramilitary. They don't go, oh, that's just a
Speaker 1: swat officer versus a National guardsman versus No, they're only
Speaker 1: going to go Cincinnatreie is dangerous AF That's what people think.
Speaker 1: But I'll talk about the fields. Well, we'll use our
Speaker 1: swat officers. They're different and it all looks the same
Speaker 1: to me. Baby. And you guys did this. You did this, AFTAB,
Speaker 1: the policies that you stand behind did this. Five three seven,
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Speaker 1: on that is a Harry on the show. Good morning,
Speaker 1: good morning. Uh you heard the words of council Member Anna.
Speaker 1: I'll be on this the shooting downtown. Ruby's may pull
Speaker 1: out at some point if this just kind of behavior continues.
Speaker 1: We have SWAT officers to me, look like National guardsmen
Speaker 1: patrolling our the center of our city. And yet I'm
Speaker 1: hearing about how we need more gun laws and we
Speaker 1: need more programs. Enough of the nonsense. You got to
Speaker 1: start splitting wigs, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: Oh, most definitely. Yeah, I've listening to that conversation. I
Speaker 7: wanted to drive my car off a bridge. The judges
Speaker 7: don't profit. If the judges don't take care of getting
Speaker 7: people off the street when presented with the facts, then
Speaker 7: the number of guns are just going to continue to
Speaker 7: be where they are.
Speaker 1: There's a question somebody, you put them in jail.
Speaker 7: That's a gun off the street.
Speaker 1: But I think, but I've had a gun off the street.
Speaker 1: That's a person who's going to use the gun. And
Speaker 1: commission of a crime off the street. And furthermore, if
Speaker 1: you have someone who has an ankle monitor, they caught
Speaker 1: off and we'll go I'll just catch you later. How
Speaker 1: many more people are going to needlessly become victims of crime,
Speaker 1: and often violent crime and often homicide if we continue
Speaker 1: that behavior. We don't need laws. We need more laws.
Speaker 1: We need to damn enforce the laws that we already have.
Speaker 7: Oh, there's no question. And I wonder if that particular
Speaker 7: council person has ever stood.
Speaker 1: At Government Square.
Speaker 7: At four o'clock in the afternoon and watched what goes
Speaker 7: on there. Herd thing about people are taking the buses
Speaker 7: and getting them off the Government Square primarily to go
Speaker 7: to work. It's a bunch of nonsense. Okay, I worked downtown.
Speaker 7: That's not what goes on on Government Square. Yes, to
Speaker 7: are people that go there to use the buses to
Speaker 7: go to work, correct, But there's a whole bunch of
Speaker 7: other people that are just there.
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, there are, And you know it does it's
Speaker 1: not all the people. And you know, we're gotta be careful.
Speaker 1: You just shut it down because you have school kids,
Speaker 1: you know, using metro, You have people who are commuting
Speaker 1: using metro, and then of course you have people up
Speaker 1: to no good using Metro And I just don't understand
Speaker 1: why do we have to have that bus station at
Speaker 1: Government Square, Because they the people that are causing trouble
Speaker 1: come out and then they shoot at each other. They
Speaker 1: cause problems. There's violence all the time around that Metro stop.
Speaker 1: It happens all the Why not move the damn thing
Speaker 1: to the Fort Washington Way Garage. It's underground first of all,
Speaker 1: so you stay dry, but you also have you can
Speaker 1: also monitor the entrance and exits, the ingress and egress points,
Speaker 1: and then if somebody does something stupid in there, you
Speaker 1: spot somebody, you could put cameras up there to have
Speaker 1: technology that spots the gun inside your clothing. You can
Speaker 1: have offices there intercepting people. Then if you have to
Speaker 1: lock it down, you've got to point in point B
Speaker 1: to do that, and that's going to deter that crime.
Speaker 1: And if people have to commute to Fountain Square, why
Speaker 1: not run some shuttles that look like streetcars and run
Speaker 1: bus lines to Fountain Square to get the commuters there.
Speaker 1: It seems to me that's where we need to move
Speaker 1: it as away from from Fountain Square and move it
Speaker 1: to an area that can be better monitored.
Speaker 7: Sel you're using logic, and logic doesn't enter into the
Speaker 7: conversation when you're dealing with politicians. All you did is
Speaker 7: word salad with ideas, but no gumption to move on
Speaker 7: these ideas.
Speaker 1: That's the problem. It's also the fear of backlash from
Speaker 1: other progressives that you're just causing more problems and you're
Speaker 1: ostracizing people and you're labeling them. It's more of the
Speaker 1: IRIS rally stuff. Harry, thanks the call to Brian in
Speaker 1: Mount Auburn on the Scottslan share A show seven underd
Speaker 1: W Brian High.
Speaker 8: Hey Scott, how you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm doing well? What you got well?
Speaker 8: We lived down pounds for twelve years and back in
Speaker 8: March we moved to Mount Auburn and a big part
Speaker 8: of that was what was happening downtown. I mean we
Speaker 8: still walk to downtown, we still go support the places
Speaker 8: we always have, but at night we just wanted to
Speaker 8: feel safe when walked in the dog or something like that.
Speaker 8: And listening to the council memory had on when you
Speaker 8: brought up the fact that we're not enforcing the judges
Speaker 8: aren't enforcing the laws.
Speaker 5: That are played that's a huge part of it.
Speaker 8: We have family and that are CPD.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, yeah, Brian, Brian, apologize, I'm losing your sales
Speaker 1: fading out there, but I get the crutch with what
Speaker 1: you're saying. I appreciate you listening to show and checking
Speaker 1: in this morning, and yeah, I hear about you know, hey,
Speaker 1: we need to try to reform people and get them
Speaker 1: at a younger Okay, great, but that's that's way down
Speaker 1: the line. You're talking about what five, six, seven, eight
Speaker 1: year olds. I'm talking about twenty four year olds going
Speaker 1: shooting rounds to the window at City Bird. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a little late for the programs in the fields. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's put that in Stue. I'm a hundred percent with you.
Speaker 1: But when people like that, and I almost willing to
Speaker 1: bet that that twenty four year old gut in the
Speaker 1: white T shirt, that that guy has had priors, that
Speaker 1: they know who that is, that he's going to come
Speaker 1: back and he's gonna have a jacket. I don't know
Speaker 1: how thick it is, but there's gonna be something in
Speaker 1: that jacket. It's going to show you that he shouldn't
Speaker 1: have a gun in the first place. So I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: We need more laws and tougher gun laws. What is
Speaker 1: that going to do for people who simply don't care
Speaker 1: that they're going to shoot someone they had a beef
Speaker 1: with in the in broad daylight. I mean, we had
Speaker 1: a gunfight across Fountain Square to a guy in a
Speaker 1: car and a guy Fountain Square just shooting at the
Speaker 1: guy in the car during rush hour. But how many
Speaker 1: laws did you break right there? Do you think they cared?
Speaker 1: They don't, And that's what we just need. More tougher laws.
Speaker 1: And we got to do something about all these guns.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 1: We got to do something about the a holes that
Speaker 1: are ruined for ninety nine point nine percent of the
Speaker 1: rest of the population. Target them quick, screw their feelings and
Speaker 1: lock them up. I don't care how old they are,
Speaker 1: Get them the hell off the street. Thanks for the call.
Speaker 1: We'll switch it up. We'll get to a news update
Speaker 1: here in just seconds, and then healthcare in crisis right
Speaker 1: now one of my favorite topics to talk about, because
Speaker 1: we're seeing this government shutdown on day fifteen, and there's
Speaker 1: a solution for this thing. Because not shutting down, the
Speaker 1: government's actually legislators doing their jobs, and that is fixing
Speaker 1: healthcare and instead in Democrats and Republicans both the blind
Speaker 1: because Democrats right now are shutting this down because want
Speaker 1: we want more subsidy, and subsidy just means something costs
Speaker 1: too much, and Republicans don't have a plan at all
Speaker 1: to fix health care. How about you do this? How
Speaker 1: about instead of giving money away and ignoring it, why
Speaker 1: do you get together and figure out why our healthcare
Speaker 1: costs so much and how we gets so a little
Speaker 1: out of it? Maybe some answers just ahead with an
Speaker 1: actual physician who sees this first hand. He's next in
Speaker 1: the show seven hundred WWT Cincinnata. We Want It's got
Speaker 1: flown back on seven hundred WLW. As the government shut
Speaker 1: down continues over healthcare subsidies. It illustrates just how broken
Speaker 1: our system is, and not yet uniformly broken, not beyond repair.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's face, it's still an American anything's perspective.
Speaker 1: You know, people still get excellent care, People still come
Speaker 1: here from other countries to get medical care. Medical innovation
Speaker 1: thrives in America. Way times are shorter than in single
Speaker 1: pair systems. But I'm an less face at the cost
Speaker 1: the access the people who are left in and excluded
Speaker 1: from it. That's really the problem that's striving things in America,
Speaker 1: and there's consequences for our broken healthcare system. What it
Speaker 1: means for ordinary families on that is doctor Peter Cowie.
Speaker 1: He's a cardiologist and public health expert and joins the
Speaker 1: show now to discuss on seven hundred WLIW Doctor Kylie.
Speaker 5: Welcome.
Speaker 1: How are you, Scott?
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me and I appreciate the invitation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think this is extremely relevant now that
Speaker 1: we fight over healthcare subsidies and you know, you know,
Speaker 1: there are a number of Americans that are dependent upon
Speaker 1: that and working people who are working multiple jobs in
Speaker 1: order to try and survive today, and they need healthcare.
Speaker 1: It's not provided by their employer, and so ACA fills
Speaker 1: that void. They get high scores for that. But you know,
Speaker 1: to act like somehow it makes it a wartable, it doesn't.
Speaker 1: Because the tremendous amount of subsidy that's at stake here.
Speaker 1: You continue to subsidize things, it distorts what the costs
Speaker 1: really are. And it really it just glosses over a
Speaker 1: broken system in that regard.
Speaker 5: Doesn't it absolutely? You know, we have two populations that
Speaker 5: are at risk here. One is obviously the uninsured, but
Speaker 5: there's a gigantic proportion of our population who are under insured,
Speaker 5: so they have to pay large deductibles, they have to
Speaker 5: pay a lot of out of pocket expenses when they
Speaker 5: seek medical care. Those are the people who are really
Speaker 5: at risk here, and of course, with the reduction in
Speaker 5: the subsidies, their premiums look like they're going to go
Speaker 5: through the roof.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we have lawmakers breaking away, I mean, Tetle
Speaker 1: Green from Georgia's saying, lo, listen, you know I've got
Speaker 1: family members that rely on subsidies on the Affordable Care
Speaker 1: Act in order to provide they they're working a few jobs.
Speaker 1: I have family members that are like that right now.
Speaker 1: You know this isn't like us against them, and we
Speaker 1: must you know, it's because it's Obamacare. It must be destroyed.
Speaker 1: It's propping up or broken in defunct system, and something
Speaker 1: needs to be done because the future is not looking bright.
Speaker 1: And you're right about that, in failure to treat what
Speaker 1: this really means for ordinary families as things continue the
Speaker 1: way they are. The broad picture on this, though, doctor
Speaker 1: Cowie is Here's what I don't understand, right, is that
Speaker 1: we have a not a good system. Was is what
Speaker 1: Medicare and Medicaid and the Affordable character and Obamacare and
Speaker 1: things are being propped up and subsidized, and it's ugly
Speaker 1: and it doesn't work. The other side of it, it's
Speaker 1: I don't see many ideas come out of the Republicans though,
Speaker 1: when it comes to a better solution for this, other
Speaker 1: than well, you know, it's socialized medicine and we can't
Speaker 1: have that. What's the solution.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you're entirely correct, we can't. We have a
Speaker 5: patchwork system right now. We have people trying to get
Speaker 5: health insurance in several different directions, and as we've already said,
Speaker 5: at very high costs. It really is going to come down, unfortunately,
Speaker 5: to a debate about whether we should as a country,
Speaker 5: as a civilization here just say everybody has to have
Speaker 5: affordable health care, and in whatever form that's going to take.
Speaker 5: You've heard the term Medicare for all. That may be
Speaker 5: a little bit large in terms of how much that
Speaker 5: would cost and whether it could be implemented. But the
Speaker 5: truth of the matter is that until we get to
Speaker 5: the point that we all agree that this is not
Speaker 5: a luxury, this is a necessity that we need to
Speaker 5: provide affordable health care for all of our citizens. Until
Speaker 5: we grasp that concept, I'm afraid that the system is
Speaker 5: not going to get fixed.
Speaker 1: In the Istean the overwriting story here regards of where
Speaker 1: you stand politically on this, the fact is it doesn't.
Speaker 1: I think everyone agrees in Republican Democrats know that it
Speaker 1: doesn't work the way it is, and it's something has
Speaker 1: to give because we spend what twice as much per
Speaker 1: person on healthcare as other countries who are wealthy and
Speaker 1: something like thirteen thou or thirteen grand per person angually
Speaker 1: spend on healthcare, and a lot of those people don't
Speaker 1: use healthcare. We're talking about younger people who don't use
Speaker 1: healthcare as much as older people do, and we're not
Speaker 1: getting any better outcomes. Number one cause of personal bankruptcy,
Speaker 1: medical bills. That's that's no future for a that's still
Speaker 1: a recipe for future success.
Speaker 5: I should say no, we're spending four and a half
Speaker 5: trillion dollars a year on healthcare in the United States,
Speaker 5: projected in twenty thirty five to be closer to nine
Speaker 5: trillion dollars on healthcare, and yet as you just said,
Speaker 5: and I completely agree. We sit at the bottom in
Speaker 5: ranks of civilized countries in terms of almost any healthcare
Speaker 5: outcome measure you want to use, infant mortality, life expectancy.
Speaker 5: It is not a system that's working, but we have
Speaker 5: the resource. You're preamble by the way, I really appreciate
Speaker 5: it because you're right, you know you can. The glass
Speaker 5: isn't completely empty half empty. There's a lot of really
Speaker 5: good things about our healthcare system. The problem is access.
Speaker 5: The problem is allowing people to get into the system
Speaker 5: so that they can take advantage of this wonderful technology
Speaker 5: and innovation that we have here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we saw the murder of the CEO of United Healthcare,
Speaker 1: and the reaction that I saw from a number of
Speaker 1: people is sickening that we're celebrating the death of a
Speaker 1: CEO of a company like he is the one driving
Speaker 1: this problem people. And I get it, you know, it's
Speaker 1: a metaphor for the system that's broken. But I don't
Speaker 1: understand celebrating someone's assassination basically is what happened here? What
Speaker 1: does that tell you about where we're in and how
Speaker 1: much of that has to do? And I get it,
Speaker 1: you know, insurance companies and insurers. They stand the most
Speaker 1: to gain by well what the democrats want. A lot
Speaker 1: of this money is going to go to If you
Speaker 1: subsidize anything, what happens is you just it just costs
Speaker 1: you more. College is a great example. You know, we
Speaker 1: subsidize college. Everyone has to go to college free college
Speaker 1: money grants tuition on the thing, and college is raised it. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're just going to charge more because more people have it,
Speaker 1: more money, and it's artificial till you have to pay it.
Speaker 1: The same thing is true here, isn't it.
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I agree entirely. What you saw with the reaction to
Speaker 5: that unfortunate event is how angry people are. I mean,
Speaker 5: I think what you saw was a reflection of their
Speaker 5: frustration and their anger with dealing with healthcare insurance companies
Speaker 5: that they really don't care about you. I mean, they've
Speaker 5: advertise on television how much they care, and the truth
Speaker 5: of the matter is they don't. I don't know if
Speaker 5: you saw recently, Scott, that a number of companies, including
Speaker 5: Medicare as well, are now going to go to pre
Speaker 5: certification done by artificial intelligence. Now think about that. Think
Speaker 5: about that your doctor orders a test and some computer
Speaker 5: is going to make a decision as to whether or
Speaker 5: not you can get that test done or not. I mean,
Speaker 5: that's the level of the absurdity that's going on with
Speaker 5: pre certification, for example, or denials of care. And in
Speaker 5: the book failure to treat their numerous examples in the
Speaker 5: stories about people who suffered really severe harm because of
Speaker 5: what happens with their medical insurance system as it currently exists.
Speaker 1: Oh, you don't have to look far to find those
Speaker 1: examples that you know, there's the things that you think
Speaker 1: are covered and they try to find a way not
Speaker 1: to cover it, or you know, it's almost a it's
Speaker 1: hard enough when your child, for example, as you know
Speaker 1: doctor Cowie is ill and you're trying to get them
Speaker 1: treatment for something like pediatric cancer, heart or some sort
Speaker 1: of serious illness like that, and then you're waging a
Speaker 1: war with the insurance company on top of that. It
Speaker 1: seems punitive.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And don't believe that the doctors aren't advocating. I mean,
Speaker 5: my office spends almost a full fte just dealing with
Speaker 5: insurance companies to get certification for procedures, and they put
Speaker 5: you on hold for a couple of hours and you
Speaker 5: have to wait there until they've decided to come on
Speaker 5: the phone, and then when they deny something, you have
Speaker 5: to go into a complicated system of trying to appeal
Speaker 5: to appeal the decision, and you have to go up
Speaker 5: in the ladder to what they call a peer review
Speaker 5: and talk to somebody's who may not even be in
Speaker 5: your specialty to make a decision about coverage. So the
Speaker 5: system is rotten. Okay, it's a rotten system, and unfortunately
Speaker 5: we're we've adapted to where we tried to live with it.
Speaker 5: But it has to it has to change.
Speaker 1: Well we've heard that for a long time, though, what
Speaker 1: is going to be the change agent here? Is it
Speaker 1: going to be one extreme case? One extreme example? Kind
Speaker 1: of like you know, when we have a I don't
Speaker 1: know terror attack, everything changed after nine to eleven? Do
Speaker 1: we need like a medical nine to eleven to occur?
Speaker 1: And what would that look like?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know, I wonder I wondered this myself.
Speaker 5: You know, I used to think that when the Sandy
Speaker 5: Hook shootings occurred and all those children were massacred, that
Speaker 5: that was going to stimulate change in the gun laws.
Speaker 5: And it didn't. Uh, it almost rised the level of
Speaker 5: absurdity of what you need to do to convince legislators.
Speaker 5: And that's where this has to come from. Right, we
Speaker 5: need we need major changes in our regulation, insurance companies
Speaker 5: and laws. What's it going let's take to get these
Speaker 5: people off the dime and make them understand that we
Speaker 5: need to move forward and make the system better.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I thought of the Sandy hook, but
Speaker 1: I don't know if I entirely agree that, because there
Speaker 1: you have, Okay, you have a second Amendment. We have
Speaker 1: second membright to arm ourselves and that is a I
Speaker 1: don't think European countries understand the Second Amment, how powerful
Speaker 1: it is and what you can do. And we put
Speaker 1: a lot of laws in place to again keep guns
Speaker 1: out the hands of criminals, but also impacts most people
Speaker 1: don't guns, are law abiding citizens. And there's also a
Speaker 1: mental health component. Use a physician know that, And you
Speaker 1: know what about people who commit domestic violence acts? And
Speaker 1: well we have HIPPA but we can't disclose. And when
Speaker 1: you fill out your federal firearms form, you know you
Speaker 1: may have mental health issues, but you're not going to
Speaker 1: admit it, or maybe you don't know what you think
Speaker 1: the rest of the world's crazier and you're normal, and
Speaker 1: you go, yeah, I'm perfectly fine, and then they go
Speaker 1: on a mass shooting. But there's none of that in
Speaker 1: play here. You don't have that. But when you have
Speaker 1: both sides agree right that the healthcare system is broken
Speaker 1: needs to be fixed, there's no hey, there's an amendment
Speaker 1: that says you're not entitled to healthcare, or there's no opposition.
Speaker 1: Is we all agree the same thing, and yet we
Speaker 1: can't do anything to me. That's the most frustrating part
Speaker 1: about this.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I completely agree that they're not analogy necessarily analogous. However,
Speaker 5: think about this, but the Republicans are denying the fact
Speaker 5: right now. They're denying the fact that cutting Medicaid and
Speaker 5: medicare in the big beautiful bill. They're denying the fact
Speaker 5: that that is going to cause a disaster in American
Speaker 5: medicine when everybody knows that it's going to Hospitals are
Speaker 5: already teeter tottering, right. I mean, the majority of hospitals
Speaker 5: iness country operating in the red. Seventeen percent of hospitals
Speaker 5: last year either bankrupted or came close to bankruptcy. And
Speaker 5: these are royal hospitals, creating these healthcare deserts. I mean,
Speaker 5: if the Medicaid thing goes in to effect and the
Speaker 5: hospitals can no longer rely on that revenue, it could
Speaker 5: actually be a complete catastrophe. Publicans need to know that,
Speaker 5: but they're they're in denial.
Speaker 1: Would that be the medical nine eleven we're talking about.
Speaker 5: I think absolutely, Scott, that that could be the disaster
Speaker 5: that finally wakes people up. But the problem is that
Speaker 5: once it happens, getting reversing it that may take years,
Speaker 5: and people are going to die because of it.
Speaker 1: I have a family in rural Ohio. You listening you
Speaker 1: might have that as well, or like at least you
Speaker 1: know someone because you know, we're in a big city.
Speaker 1: We're in Cincinnati, Ohio. We have Columbus, we have Cleveland.
Speaker 1: We have mid sized cities like Dayton and Toledo and
Speaker 1: elsewhere in our listening area. But the bulk of all
Speaker 1: eighty eight counties are pretty rural in Ohio. And I've
Speaker 1: seen firsthand clinics and hospitals closed because they just don't
Speaker 1: have the people coming in and can't afford the staffing
Speaker 1: and everything, all the compliance and everything else in order
Speaker 1: to operate a modern hospital. There's just it's not profitable.
Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people cringe at the
Speaker 1: state taking over health care, but I don't know, can
Speaker 1: this be? And we tell you, yeah, I look, I
Speaker 1: go all right, well we know healthcare. We've seen hospitals
Speaker 1: closed in rural areas. It's happening as we speak right now.
Speaker 1: It doesn't get to play simply because it's flyover country.
Speaker 1: People lose all their healthcare, they lose all hope. At
Speaker 1: that point, we're going to have people dying of things
Speaker 1: that were easily fixable just weeks and months and years
Speaker 1: ago as opposed to to right now. And at some
Speaker 1: point that it's going to come to a tipping point
Speaker 1: because you're right, these hospitals can't run properable. But you look,
Speaker 1: listen to this can go oy a minute. If every man, woman,
Speaker 1: a child, we're spending like thirteen thousand dollars plus on
Speaker 1: average for our healthcare system. It's not that we're not
Speaker 1: spending money. Where's the money going?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Well what's going into the pockets of
Speaker 5: people Like in private equity for example, they're taken over
Speaker 5: a lot of these hospital systems and managed to bankrupt
Speaker 5: them and close them for profit. But if you recall
Speaker 5: in the book It's a Failure to Treat, there's a
Speaker 5: story about a baby and a parents who were trying
Speaker 5: to get their baby to a hospital in a rurally
Speaker 5: This is an absoluent couple. This isn't just about this
Speaker 5: isn't just about indigen people. This is pre body trying
Speaker 5: to get their baby to a hospital and when they
Speaker 5: pull up to the emergency room, the hospital had closed
Speaker 5: and they ended up having another drive another twenty five
Speaker 5: miles to get to a hospital. By the time they
Speaker 5: got there, the baby was beyond fix sing and died.
Speaker 5: And these are true stories. This is a true story
Speaker 5: of what can happen in our healthcare system. And you're right.
Speaker 5: If that starts happening on a big, high level, big scale,
Speaker 5: it could be It could be the Army Geddon that
Speaker 5: you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I get the private equity element too, But
Speaker 1: they come in and go, hey, listen, you know you're
Speaker 1: not profitable. We'll buy a stake, we'll buy you out,
Speaker 1: we'll take you out. And of course they're about squeezing
Speaker 1: the last remaining dollars out there. And that is the
Speaker 1: nature of how our enterprises, the conditions in which we
Speaker 1: engage in America today, of course, is capitalism, and that's
Speaker 1: the ugly side of it, to be sure. But you know,
Speaker 1: it used to be a government be kind of like
Speaker 1: a referee in these things, and that's long since gone
Speaker 1: away with modern politics the way it is. He is,
Speaker 1: Doctor Peter Cowie's a cardiologists public health expert. Failure to
Speaker 1: treat as the book and where things are headed here
Speaker 1: with our broken healthcare system that both Republicans and Democrats
Speaker 1: agree on, it's broken and has to change. There's got
Speaker 1: to be a change. Ageing company. He believes it's going
Speaker 1: to be more healthcare deserts, meaning rural hospital shutting down
Speaker 1: and people dying, uh, but largely from trauma. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're telling me that people can literally bleed out because
Speaker 1: there's no physician or emergency room to treat them in
Speaker 1: a rural area. And we're talking about people who are
Speaker 1: farmers a lot of agricultural areas. And as we take
Speaker 1: the information super Highway and put it more rural areas
Speaker 1: because of the technology, well we'll see people who have
Speaker 1: met in a motor vehicle accident or you know, cut
Speaker 1: themselves of the saw that wind up dying, is what
Speaker 1: you're saying, when just a few weeks ago they could
Speaker 1: go to the clinic and get futured up. That's kind
Speaker 1: of it, and it's looking almost third world.
Speaker 5: It sounds like, uh yeah, well, you know, there are
Speaker 5: many areas you write about, absolutely write about trauma, think
Speaker 5: about obstetrical obstetrical care. How many hospitals not They might
Speaker 5: not necessarily, but they've closed their obstetrical programs. So women
Speaker 5: have no place to deliver their baby. And there's many
Speaker 5: reasons for that. For the reasons we just discussed. There
Speaker 5: are financial issues, but there's also liability. Now doctors are
Speaker 5: not going into obstetrics. We have a severe shortage of
Speaker 5: obstetrical physicians in the United States, especially in the West
Speaker 5: and the Midwest. And so you're a woman, you're going
Speaker 5: to deliver your baby, you have to drive fifty miles
Speaker 5: to find someplace where they'll deliver your baby for you.
Speaker 5: Think about that.
Speaker 1: I don't lie. You can hang on after your water breaks, right.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's insane, but that's exactly what's happening. And
Speaker 5: the thing that's really maddening about this is that the
Speaker 5: public does occasionally take notice of this stuff, but they
Speaker 5: hadn't risen up to the extent that I thought that
Speaker 5: they might. And the book is really kind of a
Speaker 5: clarion call for people, the public as well as practitioners
Speaker 5: to speak up, to talk to their legislators, to make
Speaker 5: sure that they understand that this is an issuative. They
Speaker 5: really have to.
Speaker 1: He's doctor Peter Cowei's cardiologist's public health expert. The book
Speaker 1: is a failure to treat and what things look like
Speaker 1: maybe in a not so future dystopian future for that matter.
Speaker 1: It sounds dystopian to me and like the stuff of movies,
Speaker 1: but this is a reality. If things continue to go
Speaker 1: the way they are. The question is who wakes up
Speaker 1: and says, all right, we got to blow this thing up.
Speaker 1: You know, government subsidized healthcare costs way more money, and
Speaker 1: the time you subsidize something, it becomes grossly more inefficient
Speaker 1: and really doesn't help those who would serve to help, because,
Speaker 1: let's face it, the insurance companies, the middle men, are
Speaker 1: the ones taking the money from the government. Here, as
Speaker 1: the holdout continues on the other side, if we just go, well,
Speaker 1: you know what, we can't have socialized medicine, Well, what's
Speaker 1: your alternative? Well nothing. Maybe the simple solution is as simply,
Speaker 1: and I've said this for a long time, the easiest
Speaker 1: thing to be doctor Cowie, would be to take away
Speaker 1: the burden for providers like yourself. Imagine if you don't
Speaker 1: have to employ an entire team behind the scenes for
Speaker 1: medical billing, coding, Medicare, Medicaid and all that nonsense, and
Speaker 1: just go Listen, you get sick, here's how much it costs,
Speaker 1: pay it or get for castrophic situations, just give catastrophic
Speaker 1: insurance and pay that much like you do your homeowners,
Speaker 1: your auto insurance, your life insurance. Go to a system
Speaker 1: like that and get your employer the hell of a
Speaker 1: business providing healthcare. I think would solve the problem.
Speaker 5: I think what you're suggesting has tremendous merit, and there
Speaker 5: are many people who believe that you're correct that we've
Speaker 5: created an infrastructure of health insurance companies administrators. We have
Speaker 5: more administrators in our hospital than we have nurses. Yeah,
Speaker 5: to get rid of this gigantic infrastructure that we probably
Speaker 5: don't need and return to some kind of a more
Speaker 5: simplistic approach to payment. And I completely agree with your
Speaker 5: catastrophic insurance for those situations. Where things get a little
Speaker 5: out of control and you're very ill. But yeah, it's
Speaker 5: going to take people to wake up and have a
Speaker 5: little common sense about this, and hopefully the book and
Speaker 5: your radio program will get people motivated in the right paw.
Speaker 1: All we have to do is eliminate the administrative and
Speaker 1: bureaucratic class. That's a problem. It's too big in medica
Speaker 1: a medical, it's too big in government, it's too big
Speaker 1: in schools. You name where the problem is. It's because
Speaker 1: we've got a bloated administrative and bureaucratic class. That's the problem.
Speaker 1: All the best, Doc, good luck with the book.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I appreciate it very much, Scott, all right, thanks again.
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Speaker 1: It's all right with the economy and just the job
Speaker 1: market titaning, you can really feel it, especially among graduates.
Speaker 1: And then you throw Ai into the mix, and what
Speaker 1: does that mean for future jobs graduates and like joining
Speaker 1: the show this morning, is that Julie Bouki our career Shirpa, welcome.
Speaker 3: How are you good morning, how are you sar well?
Speaker 1: Thank you. So typically it was hey, it used to
Speaker 1: be just go get a degree. It's fine, go have fun,
Speaker 1: get good, good grades, and we'll sort this whole thing out.
Speaker 1: Or you know, back when I was a student, it
Speaker 1: was more like okay, well, you know, and you knew
Speaker 1: people that change majors like eleven times are probably still
Speaker 1: in school. But back then it wasn't as not affordable
Speaker 1: as today. Today. You've got to a plan going in.
Speaker 1: You just can't figure it out as you go along,
Speaker 1: as generations past have done, even more so with AI.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the plan can't be send junior off someplace
Speaker 3: at eighteen for four years and then when he or
Speaker 3: she pops out at twenty two, they've got a great
Speaker 3: job and a great career path waiting for them, and
Speaker 3: those those days are gone. And the challenge is with
Speaker 3: parents getting our kids to understand that. I love this
Speaker 3: article on the Wall through Journal talking about it's hard
Speaker 3: to give career advice to your kids these days. Of
Speaker 3: course I had to laugh at that and say like
Speaker 3: they were ever listening. You know, we want them to
Speaker 3: start thinking ahead, start being prepared. And it's really hard
Speaker 3: when you're a teenager, late teens, early twenties to have
Speaker 3: that ability to see ahead and to see that the
Speaker 3: world has changed and you're going to have to join
Speaker 3: the workforce and exist in a different way. In the past,
Speaker 3: we joined a company and we did all of our
Speaker 3: learning there. We got trained, we bumped our head, we
Speaker 3: were successful, we weren't successful, We moved around, and we did
Speaker 3: it all inside of a four wall sort of metaphorically.
Speaker 3: But we are in a place now where kids are
Speaker 3: going to have to learn to maneuver from chapter to
Speaker 3: chapter and each chapter might look different from the last one,
Speaker 3: and so the ability to do that, that's really if
Speaker 3: you've got teenagers right now, the three things that I'm
Speaker 3: suggesting that you really work with them on or focus
Speaker 3: on is helping them build out there what we call
Speaker 3: soft skills. How do you can customer service, talking to people,
Speaker 3: problem solving, doing something that's hard and feels uncomfortable. Can
Speaker 3: you stand in front of a room and that's something
Speaker 3: those we call them soft skills that those are really
Speaker 3: the one that companies are really desiring right now because
Speaker 3: we talked. I know, we talked last week about AI
Speaker 3: and AI will replace some jobs, but for the most part,
Speaker 3: what it's going to do is it's going to impact
Speaker 3: how jobs are done. Won't replace you, but it'll change
Speaker 3: maybe how you work. And so therefore you have to
Speaker 3: be better at those people skills, communicating, listening, problem solving,
Speaker 3: you know, being a decent person to work with. Those
Speaker 3: things are going to become magnified in terms of their importance.
Speaker 1: That's something that AI can't do. It can't act at
Speaker 1: some point, and there's gonna be you know, let's face it,
Speaker 1: the growing number of jos where there's no human interaction.
Speaker 1: But there's still plenty out there in the service sector.
Speaker 1: You know, just thinking of this, Julie, because the fear
Speaker 1: is AA. My daughter's studying and she's like realizing, like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm studying. It's in the computer field.
Speaker 1: It's like, AI is probably going to take this job
Speaker 1: into your future. I got to pivot and so to
Speaker 1: the classes I have and I can change and move,
Speaker 1: and she's been in flexed. I think that's a smart
Speaker 1: move and may delay graduation a semester but you know, okay,
Speaker 1: let's not get a degree in something that's worthless. Let's
Speaker 1: not do that. At the same time, she's also her
Speaker 1: income and she's a server and that's why she's paying
Speaker 1: for school and so. But she's learning though, So I
Speaker 1: think that's important, right, is the we don't want our
Speaker 1: kids to work, We want them to play sports, and
Speaker 1: we'll pay for everything. And you know, not all parents
Speaker 1: are that way. But I think having that service job
Speaker 1: where you're in front of people and you're having to
Speaker 1: deal with, you know, problematic customers and managers and schedules,
Speaker 1: and that trains you for what we're talking about here.
Speaker 1: If you spend your entire life just in front of
Speaker 1: a screen, you have no soft skills at all. You
Speaker 1: have to learn by interacting with human beings.
Speaker 3: Yes, and you said something really important there when you
Speaker 3: were talking about your daughter, So that she's taking she's
Speaker 3: in a technology field, working on her degree, and that's great.
Speaker 3: But even if parts of that are going to be
Speaker 3: impacted by AI, what she's doing, what she's modeling is
Speaker 3: an understanding and interesting technology and are willing to learn.
Speaker 3: And then you said flexible, flexible, adaptable, another super important
Speaker 3: skills because if she is showing right now, look she's
Speaker 3: if she's I look at that and I say, okay.
Speaker 3: If I was working with her to tell her story,
Speaker 3: I say, okay. I enjoyed learning about technology. I understand
Speaker 3: that things are going to change, but the basis and
Speaker 3: everything I've learned, I think it's going to help me
Speaker 3: learn more quickly whatever comes my way. In addition, I
Speaker 3: have worked as a server and a lot of customer
Speaker 3: service roles that have really taught me how to deal
Speaker 3: with all kinds of people from the general public to
Speaker 3: you know, more senior level people. And that combination really
Speaker 3: is what companies are looking for. And so that flexibility, adaptability,
Speaker 3: learn soft skills, the ability to learn, and then some
Speaker 3: level of comfort with technology. You know, we didn't do
Speaker 3: that in my day is never going to got it.
Speaker 1: Ever ever again, No, you have to learn. But that's
Speaker 1: the thing, is okay. So if you're the parent of
Speaker 1: a student, or you're a student, or you're headed off
Speaker 1: to college student side, how do I know that AI
Speaker 1: is going to take this job over? Is there a
Speaker 1: let mus test for this or we just don't know?
Speaker 3: Well, you don't And I think that's I heard one
Speaker 3: of probably one of the most prolific prognosticators on this
Speaker 3: kind of stuff, being asked this question on a call
Speaker 3: in show and he said, I have no idea. Because
Speaker 3: the mom was asking how do I guide my young
Speaker 3: sons who are getting ready for college in a couple
Speaker 3: of years, And he said, I have no idea. But
Speaker 3: he said, in actence the same thing I did. The
Speaker 3: ability to learn, the ability to communicate effectively, the ability
Speaker 3: to fall in your face and get back up. That
Speaker 3: those are the things that at least as we speak today,
Speaker 3: AI cannot replace. And so it's as you have teenagers
Speaker 3: junior high high school, you know, maybe insist that they
Speaker 3: get out there and get their hands dirty, working with
Speaker 3: the general public, babysitting, working a down, walking dogs, whatever
Speaker 3: it is, that being a caddy is wonderful experience for
Speaker 3: interacting with people. Don't get so caught up in they
Speaker 3: have to take every single AP class offered. And I
Speaker 3: think also from a parental standpoint, we have to get
Speaker 3: off of our there's only one right way past. And
Speaker 3: if your son or daughter is really showing an interest
Speaker 3: in working with our hands in the sort of the
Speaker 3: industrial type arts or really, you don't have to go,
Speaker 3: oh good, you can be a blah blah blah engineer
Speaker 3: at that point when they start to show with their
Speaker 3: interest in it, and listen to them and make sure
Speaker 3: they take advantage of everything their high school offers in
Speaker 3: order to get clear on what direction they should point.
Speaker 3: They're not going to stay in that direction forever, but
Speaker 3: at least gives them solid goodings to begin their career from.
Speaker 3: And don't the colleges are not doing this for your kids,
Speaker 3: so you have to it has to start young, and
Speaker 3: don't and really listen to what they want to do.
Speaker 3: And maybe they're not expressing it in the right words,
Speaker 3: but what they are doing, the things they gravitate towards
Speaker 3: the things they enjoy, their hobbies, all those things are
Speaker 3: clues about what they enjoy and so how do you
Speaker 3: take that and then translate that? And it's not a
Speaker 3: one and done process, and they're going to have many,
Speaker 3: many chapters in their careers.
Speaker 1: Julie Balky our career shirt but jumps on the show
Speaker 1: every Wednesday morning, breaks up a little talking correlated stuff
Speaker 1: in AI. How rough time for grads right now? But
Speaker 1: now I'm going to school and like, am I going
Speaker 1: to have a job? In a year or two or three,
Speaker 1: when I graduate in a field that AI is going
Speaker 1: to destroy. I mean, we always talk about how people
Speaker 1: born today are going to take jobs that have yet
Speaker 1: to be created. Now we have people that are close
Speaker 1: to graduating that are not going to get a job
Speaker 1: because it was here and then it's gone because of AI.
Speaker 1: It's really weird and you at the same time, you know,
Speaker 1: in school, we saw this during COVID, especially with you
Speaker 1: zoom and collaborating and everything else. But today we're telling
Speaker 1: students in school not to use AI. You've got to
Speaker 1: learn this material. And then okay, well I go to
Speaker 1: college and I'm going to need to have AI skills
Speaker 1: when I graduate. That's kind of a mixed message, isn't it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and we talked about this in the past,
Speaker 3: how companies are just so fed up with applicants using
Speaker 3: AI for everything to write the resumes, come up with answers,
Speaker 3: the potential interview questions, and so we're you know, the pendulum,
Speaker 3: the swing, and this is all still being figured out.
Speaker 3: But when you're out there, so okay, go ahead, let
Speaker 3: chat GPT, write your resume, but don't stop there, go
Speaker 3: and read it. Look at it and say, Okay, is
Speaker 3: this really is this really telling my story? Is this
Speaker 3: language I would use when I show up for an interview?
Speaker 3: Is this resume going to sound like me?
Speaker 5: You've got to put.
Speaker 3: Another layer over that, which is really what is you know?
Speaker 3: Who are you? And if everybody's using cat GPT to
Speaker 3: write the resumes, you aren't going to stand out. And
Speaker 3: so this isn't about And so I think it's the
Speaker 3: same with using gp GPT for anything. Don't rely it,
Speaker 3: rely it, rely it for the finished product. Help you,
Speaker 3: help you get started, to fast start, and then refine
Speaker 3: from there. I think that's where when we're when we're
Speaker 3: using it just because we don't want to put the
Speaker 3: work in or we don't want to do the hard
Speaker 3: thinking around a project or a resume or cover letters
Speaker 3: or whatever it is, that's when it starts to really
Speaker 3: really backfire because employers, and you know, whether it's employer
Speaker 3: you're interviewing with or someone you work with, can see
Speaker 3: right through that.
Speaker 1: I know AI can't replace the.
Speaker 3: Trades, that's true, but it will change how they're done, Yeah,
Speaker 3: how they interact with customers, you know. So yeah, it's
Speaker 3: not going to retreat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you've got to you know, put a
Speaker 1: you know, sweats and plumber, put a press fitting in something,
Speaker 1: you know, a plumbing for example, you still have to
Speaker 1: do the plumbing. AA is not God. Now you may
Speaker 1: be able to use AI to do calculations and runs
Speaker 1: and stuff. Oh that's allll different matter, but the physical
Speaker 1: nature of it until we build an AI robot that
Speaker 1: can replace a human being to build stuff that and
Speaker 1: we should be And unfortunately, parents I think are waking
Speaker 1: up going, wait a minute, you're spending all this money
Speaker 1: and you know, we still have to subsidize you when
Speaker 1: you're a young adult. You should be on your own.
Speaker 1: That's not all, but that's too many. And I think
Speaker 1: parents are finally realized and there's no stigma in getting
Speaker 1: your kids and something like that.
Speaker 3: Nope, nope, And we're making progress there. And sometimes it's
Speaker 3: just driven by by need, you know, by demand, and
Speaker 3: to the point that we can't keep our head in
Speaker 3: the sand anymore.
Speaker 1: Well, we're still going to need people in stems, I
Speaker 1: mean science, math, Oh goshcha, We're still going to need
Speaker 1: people with you know, if you have a business degree,
Speaker 1: you're still going to be fine. Now, am I change that?
Speaker 1: A lot, but you still you can do a lot
Speaker 1: with a business degree.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely. It's a broad set of skills and
Speaker 3: knowledge that every business that looks to run a profit
Speaker 3: or even a nonprofit is going to benefit from those skills.
Speaker 3: So it's being broadly skilled, being open to learn, being
Speaker 3: eager to jump in and take on something new, and
Speaker 3: not being afraid of falling on your face. That's really
Speaker 3: what that's really in a nutshell, are looking for. And
Speaker 3: we're not preparing young people, especially for the failing and
Speaker 3: getting out there and screwing up part. It's like we
Speaker 3: you know, as parents, we too many parents look at
Speaker 3: this as if you fail at something, and the fail
Speaker 3: I use the word loosely, but if you don't do
Speaker 3: well at something or something doesn't go your way, it's
Speaker 3: a direct reflection on me as a parent.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and it's really not I mean, we still
Speaker 1: have that stigma of going to you know, people were
Speaker 1: in the mom and dad university vanity stickers on the minivans.
Speaker 1: There are problem my kids say, oh Harvard, Mom, okay, great,
Speaker 1: it doesn't make you a better person. Now if your
Speaker 1: kid goes Hi, are you going to go to an
Speaker 1: ivy league? I'm not diminishing that at all. It's congratulations,
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of people whose values of parents
Speaker 1: wrapped up in that that's unfortunate.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, yes, very much, so see it all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if we do. Julie Balki our career. Surep on
Speaker 1: the Scots Loan Show. She jumps in every Wednesday morning.
Speaker 1: She's at the Bauki group dot com. Her team ready
Speaker 1: to work for you. Maybe you're going through job change.
Speaker 1: Maybe uh again you you do your work with college
Speaker 1: students as well too, right, or even high school student?
Speaker 3: Yeah, young people or very young people like that. We
Speaker 3: have worked with them, very mature juniors and seniors in
Speaker 3: college to help them prepare for what's next. Actually it's fun.
Speaker 3: They're really fun. They're very creative. I think we don't
Speaker 3: give them enough credit. They're so skilled in so many
Speaker 3: different ways that we just didn't value or havn't valued
Speaker 3: as much as we should. So, yeah, we're even working
Speaker 3: with juniors and seniors.
Speaker 5: In college now.
Speaker 1: They're not they're just putting your questions into AI and
Speaker 1: getting an answer. What's wrong with you?
Speaker 3: No, they're not things you can't.
Speaker 1: Fake, you know, Yeah, we know exactly. You know, you
Speaker 1: kind of know when you're sitting down face to face
Speaker 1: and talking to someone, there's eye contact, there's all these things.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm a big proponent of working when you're
Speaker 1: younger and having a job in college or high school
Speaker 1: because the soft skills, the people skills, learning how to
Speaker 1: interact with folks. And so many young people today, not
Speaker 1: all of them, but far too many don't have the ability.
Speaker 1: It's like they've got to look at the screen and
Speaker 1: you know, talk in one hundred and forty one hundred
Speaker 1: and forty characters less. And I work with people like that.
Speaker 1: Go man, you got to have some ability to hold
Speaker 1: a conversation. Look someone of the eyes, shake their hand,
Speaker 1: interact and that feels like it's a dying art and
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the cornerstone what we do in the future.
Speaker 1: You want to set yourself, separate yourself from AI, then
Speaker 1: you have to have those skills.
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, all.
Speaker 1: Right, Julie, all the best will chat next week, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: we will take care. She's at the Buki Group Bauk
Speaker 1: Bukigroup dot com. We've got lots going on in the city,
Speaker 1: of course, and a lot of bad things are happening
Speaker 1: a lot of good stuff. We've got the Thursday Night
Speaker 1: Football crew in town, so cincinnatill be featured on Thursday
Speaker 1: Night Football Bengals Steelers will have the game for you
Speaker 1: with Dan and Lapp here on the home of the
Speaker 1: Best Bengals coverage seven hundred WLW. My fear though, is
Speaker 1: when they shoot shoot the glamour shots of downtown and
Speaker 1: they show Fountain Square. Are we going to see a
Speaker 1: swat officer standing there guarding the Genius of statue, the
Speaker 1: Genius of water statue from Aaron bullets striking the bronze.
Speaker 1: I mean literally steps away from what they're gonna show
Speaker 1: on Thursday Night. Tomorrow night will be a window with
Speaker 1: a bullet hole in it. At City Chicken. Of course,
Speaker 1: we had gunplay steps away from that the day before,
Speaker 1: a couple days before anyway, where some people who had
Speaker 1: a beef had beef with each other decide they're going
Speaker 1: to get a shoot out right in the middle of
Speaker 1: Fountain Square, but right during rush hour as well. And
Speaker 1: now the Mayor's come out of press conference saying the
Speaker 1: adjective of the day is intolerable. Intolerable. My adjective may
Speaker 1: be maybe incurable. Has it gone too far? Has it
Speaker 1: gone put the point of no? Which are we too
Speaker 1: far gone? Not that we can't save it, but all
Speaker 1: the adjectives and curfews and patrol, they've done little, And
Speaker 1: we just got to get back to enforcing the law,
Speaker 1: going and going after those individuals and making examples of them.
Speaker 1: There should absolutely be no wiggle room. If you are
Speaker 1: a person who has a gun on you, they shouldn't
Speaker 1: have a gun on you. And that could be someone
Speaker 1: at her age, but specifically someone under disability, meaning that
Speaker 1: person has already been convicted of the felony and the
Speaker 1: law prohibits them from carrying, using, or even thinking about
Speaker 1: a firearm. And I'm willing to bet a lot maybe
Speaker 1: the farm, even if I had a farm, that that
Speaker 1: guy that we saw in the video with a white
Speaker 1: T shirt, the thick guy, fits into that category. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I just have a sneaking suspicion
Speaker 1: that person had some priors. The way they carry the
Speaker 1: way they acted, what they did, and just how cold
Speaker 1: they were tells me that person probably has some experience
Speaker 1: of law enforcement. Don't know what's going to initiate the
Speaker 1: change here, but the stuff they didn't want to do.
Speaker 1: Looks like we're doing this argument about Okay, well we
Speaker 1: don't want the National Guard here, we can't have the
Speaker 1: National Guard here because it looks why, well, you know
Speaker 1: it's a federal saying okay, I get the nuance between state, local,
Speaker 1: and federal government. At the same time, the average untrained eye,
Speaker 1: if I see an officer or someone who's dressed in
Speaker 1: military gear, paramilitary gear with a long gun, tactical gear, helmet,
Speaker 1: face shield, all of that stuff, I think it's police state,
Speaker 1: regardless if it's a National Guard, whether it's the US Army,
Speaker 1: or whether it's local law enforcement. I mean, stop with
Speaker 1: the semantics of it. We're at that point right now.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and we're at that point because well we
Speaker 1: let it get to this point. Up next on the show,
Speaker 1: Denise three House is here. She's the president of the
Speaker 1: Hamilin County Commission. Did you hear about this talk about
Speaker 1: building a new arena when that is I don't know,
Speaker 1: but there are four sites elected at least to attracted.
Speaker 1: One would be where Heritage Bank Center sits now, simply
Speaker 1: because well, how are you going to do that? You
Speaker 1: got to blow that up? And then rebus so there's
Speaker 1: no hockey, there's no events there. What's that do for
Speaker 1: the banks? And it's kind of hard to redevelop that area.
Speaker 1: And now they've gone it for a second time and said, no, wait,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, maybe this is the best area for
Speaker 1: a wait a minute, hold on just a second. What
Speaker 1: just happened? Ask Denise about this coming up next? Scott's
Speaker 1: loan seven hundred ww since now.
Speaker 6: Do you want to be an American?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 1: Scott flown back on seven hundred WWS. So last year
Speaker 1: we did a study to find out where you could
Speaker 1: put a new arena. We need a shiny new arena badly,
Speaker 1: and they came up with four sites. The spot where
Speaker 1: Heritage Bank Center sits now is ah. They looked at
Speaker 1: it and went, is this it's too small? We can't
Speaker 1: there's no way you can put an arena here. All
Speaker 1: right now? MSA Sport, the agency, the group that's doing
Speaker 1: the studies, they re examined that site again recently and said,
Speaker 1: you know what, I think we can make this. I
Speaker 1: think we can make this work. Boy, this is interesting.
Speaker 1: Hemlin County Commission President Denise Dreehouse on the show on
Speaker 1: seven hundred at WLWDS welcome back. How are you?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm good, how are you? Thanks for having me?
Speaker 1: Of course? All right, So this is the I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe this is like the Italian in me. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: But so MSA comes in a second time for free
Speaker 1: mind you, and they go, you know what, we need
Speaker 1: to really look at this this arena site again. And
Speaker 1: you know what, actually we can do it if we
Speaker 1: move maring Way and we build a floodwall and do
Speaker 1: they say we can actually put a new arena on
Speaker 1: the existing site. And I heard that, And this is
Speaker 1: after the study came out just last year. It's not like,
Speaker 1: you know, five ten years have passed. This feels to
Speaker 1: me like there's tremendous pressure from people with a lot
Speaker 1: of influence strongly suggesting the site, as in, yeah, if
Speaker 1: you know it's good for you're going to build the
Speaker 1: arena the same site. My question is is this forced?
Speaker 1: And if so, who forced it? Because all of a
Speaker 1: sudden it didn't fit and then suddenly, praise God, the
Speaker 1: arena miracle happened and now we can fit an arena
Speaker 1: in the spot that we thought we couldn't just a
Speaker 1: year ago. What am I missing here?
Speaker 9: Well? I think there are people, I don't know it's
Speaker 9: great influence. I'm not sure that captures it, but there
Speaker 9: are people that are advocating for all of the site.
Speaker 9: And so I think this one on the riverfront, you know,
Speaker 9: I think there was some question as to whether or
Speaker 9: not it could fit in a larger footprint. And as
Speaker 9: you say, they've moved the street to the south, they've
Speaker 9: opened up some of the parking, the surface parking down
Speaker 9: there for the project, and so it's an interest. I mean,
Speaker 9: I'm very interested in this design because it captures and
Speaker 9: utilizes some of the built infrastructure that is already down
Speaker 9: there that the county and the city and the state
Speaker 9: all partnered to you'll build all that parking infrastructure there,
Speaker 9: and from myage point, I want to definitely try to
Speaker 9: take advantage of build infrastructure no matter where the arena goes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I get it. You look at that,
Speaker 1: and it's quite embarrassing for us to ease if you
Speaker 1: look at whether it's a county, the city, the Bengals,
Speaker 1: or all of us the banks is the fact that
Speaker 1: that was some twenty something years ago and there's still
Speaker 1: concrete piercing and they're waiting to be decked up for parking,
Speaker 1: garage and everything else, and I just can't help. But
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that this building out on the initial site,
Speaker 1: the site where the bank arena is right now, the
Speaker 1: Heriage bank centers now is not a bad idea. But
Speaker 1: I'm saying, is are we choosing that simply because there's
Speaker 1: so many people I know, you and the commission, the
Speaker 1: Bank's working group, the Reds, the Bengals, the big money people,
Speaker 1: the decision makers really wanted on that site because so
Speaker 1: much is invested in the banks. I understand that, But again,
Speaker 1: we have land that's ready to be developed and it's
Speaker 1: been sitting vacant for so long. I mean, it's really
Speaker 1: not let's face, it doesn't take twenty years to do
Speaker 1: what the grand vision is. I just wonder if we're
Speaker 1: forcing this to make sure that we use Atlanta, and
Speaker 1: when you do that, of course, are we choosing the
Speaker 1: best site or the one that the people behind the
Speaker 1: scene want the most? And does that is that good
Speaker 1: for taxpayers and people have come down there. I think
Speaker 1: it's a legit question.
Speaker 9: Oh, I absolutely think we should ask some question which
Speaker 9: is best for the taxpayers? And that is ultimately the
Speaker 9: question I asked myself which one benefits the taxpayers again
Speaker 9: using this built infrastructure that the taxpayers invested in, And
Speaker 9: so I am not committed necessarily to one site over
Speaker 9: the other. I think we do need to evaluate and
Speaker 9: make sure we're picking the best site. But I think
Speaker 9: these questions have to be asked. You know, where is
Speaker 9: the biggest than for the book for the taxpayers? And
Speaker 9: I have always said from the very beginning that we
Speaker 9: need to recognize we've got built infrastructure in some of
Speaker 9: these locations and we don't necessarily have it in others.
Speaker 9: So I don't feel like there's a heavy hand here.
Speaker 9: I mean, there was a study that was conducted by
Speaker 9: the Chamber in partnership with the city and the county
Speaker 9: to evaluate different sites, and that's what they did, and
Speaker 9: so this isn't a dendum to thatvery I don't think
Speaker 9: it puts the period on anything. So I don't quite
Speaker 9: view it in that way. And the other thing I
Speaker 9: want to mention is that the Urban Design Review Group,
Speaker 9: that again is some of the stakeholders down on the riverfront,
Speaker 9: are looking at those four sites that are still not
Speaker 9: developed and presenting a report to US mid November, and
Speaker 9: so I'm very interested in seeing what they come up with,
Speaker 9: because a lot twenty four is ready to go. The
Speaker 9: other three are not because we have to build that
Speaker 9: parking underneath. But at least we're moving on it. And
Speaker 9: I share your frustration, but at least we're moving on it.
Speaker 9: You know, you do have to have the resources to
Speaker 9: move on some of the stuff, and COVID really took
Speaker 9: a hit on our restricted funds, particularly the parking fund
Speaker 9: and the tourism fund, and so we just need to
Speaker 9: recognize the reality of you know, at least we're in
Speaker 9: a good position now where we've got a report coming
Speaker 9: forward to the city and the county to talk about
Speaker 9: those last four lots.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and parking infrastructure right around it. It'd be great
Speaker 1: the length of the project, though, what happens to businesses
Speaker 1: during the time when there are no events. If this
Speaker 1: is the site we go with, that's a factor that
Speaker 1: we don't have to worry about. And a few of
Speaker 1: the other sites, you know, the West End around where
Speaker 1: the casino is another one of the sites that are
Speaker 1: being evaluated, the CETV studio where Town Center garages. Maybe
Speaker 1: a little bit, but I mean this is this is
Speaker 1: the existing arena that goes away for what a couple
Speaker 1: of years, like we saw at the Duke Energy Convention Center.
Speaker 1: But that also impacts all the foot traffic to the banks.
Speaker 1: How do we work around that?
Speaker 9: Well, Bill, let's not forget that we've got other assets
Speaker 9: down there, never mind the stadiums, but also the music
Speaker 9: venue that was meant to bring year round entertainment and
Speaker 9: business to those retailers down there. I mean, that's part
Speaker 9: of the reason we pushed so hard for the music
Speaker 9: venue for that very reason. And so if this goes
Speaker 9: offline for a while, it is just like the convention center. Look,
Speaker 9: you go down, you go dark for a while, You
Speaker 9: make the investments, you make sure the end product is
Speaker 9: better and will draw more business than what we had previously,
Speaker 9: and in the end there is a benefit and you
Speaker 9: do it as quickly as you can. And that's exactly
Speaker 9: what we did with the convention Center. And I would
Speaker 9: expect that's what it's this were to be cited there
Speaker 9: at that site, then I would expect the same thing
Speaker 9: to happen there.
Speaker 1: What do you do with the cyclones for two years,
Speaker 1: biggest tenant?
Speaker 9: I don't know the answer to that. I mean, I'm
Speaker 9: not in the weeds like that. I'll admit I'm looking
Speaker 9: at the different options. I mean, let's not forget that
Speaker 9: we don't have the money to do this right now.
Speaker 9: So I've said this a million times, like this is
Speaker 9: on the radar, it's on the list, It's not at
Speaker 9: the top of my list because we are invested in
Speaker 9: the convention Center renovation. We just finished up the Bengals deal.
Speaker 9: We've got a lot on our plate that are really
Speaker 9: really big projects. And so you know, while the arena,
Speaker 9: you know, conversation is important and we're part of it,
Speaker 9: we do not have financing in place to instruct the
Speaker 9: new arena, so we we were missing a piece of
Speaker 9: this at the moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And the other thing too, is it's what it's
Speaker 1: still be publicly owned but publicly funded because the NVIN
Speaker 1: Entertainment owns it. But I'm here, like seventy percent investment,
Speaker 1: and then you know there's that, and then what about
Speaker 1: the private investment too. Those are pieces that still have
Speaker 1: to come together, right one hundred percent.
Speaker 9: Yeah, we're looking for a financial stack that makes sense because,
Speaker 9: as you say, it's privately owned right now, so I
Speaker 9: don't know is it is it public owned, private owned.
Speaker 9: I mean, look, we have limited resources. I just you know,
Speaker 9: and so to assume that the county has the ability
Speaker 9: to step in here and renovates this is not realistic.
Speaker 9: You know, we are a partner in this, that we
Speaker 9: have limited resources, and I just want to emphasize that.
Speaker 9: So we are not where we need to be with
Speaker 9: a financial steck. We're looking at it. I mean, we've
Speaker 9: got experts looking at it. And so to answer your
Speaker 9: questions about public ownership private ownership, I don't know the
Speaker 9: answer to that because we haven't resolved that question.
Speaker 1: One of the big questions commissioned President in Easter your
Speaker 1: house to ask would be, well, you got to work
Speaker 1: with the city on this one too. And then often
Speaker 1: cases this, I mean, I guess I just look at
Speaker 1: if we have peace between Israel and Palestine, I suppose
Speaker 1: that the city and the county can get along on
Speaker 1: some things. And what about the railroad money, that is
Speaker 1: something that the city has for infrastructure. I don't know
Speaker 1: if what applies here, and that's the railroad sale. Proceeds
Speaker 1: in the railroad sale that would go just to infrastructure
Speaker 1: roads in the city. I don't know if there's a
Speaker 1: carve out there or you're able to take some of
Speaker 1: those moneys or not. Has that conversation been had at
Speaker 1: all with the city.
Speaker 9: Well, we're working very closely with the city on a
Speaker 9: number of projects, not the least of which is again
Speaker 9: mentioned center and the Convention Center hotel. And so it's
Speaker 9: not the days of old where the county and the
Speaker 9: city are fighting with each other. That is not the case.
Speaker 9: I mean I have regular meetings with they have to
Speaker 9: have and council members about a number of issues. So
Speaker 9: we are in good stead with the city. And my
Speaker 9: expectation is that any financial stack we come up with
Speaker 9: includes the city, the county, the private side, perhaps the state.
Speaker 9: I mean, we need to look at all options. It's
Speaker 9: an expensive proposal. We don't again we don't have those
Speaker 9: final numbers, but it's going to have to be a
Speaker 9: collaborative approach to this and.
Speaker 1: That's getting stuff done. Although you know, as I point
Speaker 1: out the beginning, Denise, I look at the empty vastness
Speaker 1: around the banks and still areas yet twenty years, two decades,
Speaker 1: although you have to be developed and on that. We're
Speaker 1: talking about the Duke Energy Convention Center too, getting ready
Speaker 1: to open up. I think you know, first quarter of
Speaker 1: the year and pretty soon it's going up. What happened
Speaker 1: to the hotel?
Speaker 9: Oh, it's well, So let's I want to be clear
Speaker 9: about that. What's left on the banks this will be
Speaker 9: private development. This is not going to be your government development.
Speaker 9: So we will look at the private side and I
Speaker 9: think there's a lot of potential there because I think
Speaker 9: people do want to develop down there. Same with the
Speaker 9: host Headquarter hotel. It's a private development. There are in
Speaker 9: centives from the state, the city, the county in that
Speaker 9: deal to make sure that it happens. And that's moving along.
Speaker 9: So I don't know if you've seen the renderings, but
Speaker 9: they're pretty fantastic and it will allow us to have
Speaker 9: the room blocks that we need for the conventions that
Speaker 9: we're going to get because the convention Center is so
Speaker 9: much better than it used to be and the deportmental holdings.
Speaker 9: The group that is going to do that development just
Speaker 9: to the south of the convention Center also has purchased
Speaker 9: the Wesson and so that is a great opportunity for
Speaker 9: us to not only have the seven hundred keys in
Speaker 9: the hotel that's going to be new, but also utilize
Speaker 9: the Wessons for those blocks. So it's a real opportunity.
Speaker 9: I'm very excited about that.
Speaker 1: How soon before we start. I haven't been down there
Speaker 1: in a while, so I don't have they've done site
Speaker 1: work yet or if they got anything in yet. What's
Speaker 1: the timeline.
Speaker 9: I believe what's moving. I know that it's moving because
Speaker 9: I think some of these reports will be coming out.
Speaker 9: I think it's twenty twenty seven eight something like that.
Speaker 9: Remember it's a seven hundred key hotel. So the convention
Speaker 9: center will come online far before that, and we've got
Speaker 9: capacity in the downtown hotels. Now. The key to that,
Speaker 9: or the Convention Center hotel is that they can be
Speaker 9: relegated for the conventions. And so a group that wants
Speaker 9: to come in and do conventions in Cincinnati won't have
Speaker 9: to have hotel rooms spread all all over the city.
Speaker 9: They'll be located right across the street. We'll have a
Speaker 9: skywalk over the street, and so that will really help
Speaker 9: you kind of a turbocharge. Some of the conventions that
Speaker 9: are coming in.
Speaker 1: All right, kind of got off on the weeds there,
Speaker 1: as I often knew because of my brain the add Denise,
Speaker 1: but you know, high roll Hamlin County Commission President in
Speaker 1: EA Street House, I'm with Slowne seven hundred WLW and
Speaker 1: kind of update there with the hotel and the convention
Speaker 1: center project where we're talking about the new arena. A
Speaker 1: story comes out that says MSA Sport has on their
Speaker 1: own dime re examined the current Heritage Bank site and said,
Speaker 1: you know what, we actually can make this work. We
Speaker 1: can put a new arena there, which opens up a
Speaker 1: host of other questions as well, namely shutting that thing
Speaker 1: down for a couple of years and what that looks
Speaker 1: like for the banks and how you pay for it,
Speaker 1: of course, are huge issues right now. So it sounds
Speaker 1: like we're way down the line here before timeline. You know,
Speaker 1: what time do we start making a final decision and
Speaker 1: picking a site in you know, specifically the financing and
Speaker 1: when do you see this coming together if at all?
Speaker 9: Well, I don't know if it all is an option,
Speaker 9: but I think I don't know. I mean, as I
Speaker 9: told you, you know from my vantage point. You know,
Speaker 9: I'm interested in this. I think it's a big deal
Speaker 9: for the city and the county, but I am not
Speaker 9: later focused on this because we've got so many other
Speaker 9: things that were invested in. But I know the ideas
Speaker 9: are moving forward. This new look at the riverfront property,
Speaker 9: you know, just just came out, so you know, we're
Speaker 9: still studying it. But the big elephant in the room
Speaker 9: is the financing. And I have not seen a financial
Speaker 9: stack that pays for.
Speaker 1: Us okay, So that's a long way down the line.
Speaker 1: And how much of a factor, too is this is
Speaker 1: more short term I think, because we're talking years. Is
Speaker 1: what's happening in the city. As I mentioned, the conflict
Speaker 1: in the city and the county. Sometimes often cases it
Speaker 1: seems here at odds with each other, at least from
Speaker 1: the public perspective. But I'm looking at the violence of
Speaker 1: the crime on Fountain Square in around the city. We've
Speaker 1: got a new convention center that's going to open up,
Speaker 1: We've got a hotel that's going to go in. We're
Speaker 1: talking about building a new arena and getting more people
Speaker 1: downtime at a time where people were testified about moving
Speaker 1: out of downtown because of the violence. What kind of
Speaker 1: role does the county have in this and working along
Speaker 1: with the city. I know you've been kind of silent
Speaker 1: spectators on the sidelines, although Sheriff McGuffey is doing everything
Speaker 1: she can to enforce the laws of the city. But
Speaker 1: that's an area that's often not talked about between the
Speaker 1: city and the county, but clearly there's a overlay and
Speaker 1: the ven diagram of violence.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and when we do work with the city, and
Speaker 9: I have been in contact with a mayor and council member,
Speaker 9: the sheriff is the one that's our law and public
Speaker 9: safety person right at the county. And so if you'll
Speaker 9: recall back when there was an influx of violence, the
Speaker 9: sheriff for thirty days due to patrol like a sweep
Speaker 9: of Court Street. They you know, it's an overlap of
Speaker 9: what PPD was doing. And so she came in with
Speaker 9: her folks and said, Okay, we're going to take Court Street.
Speaker 9: We're going to get things under control up here. And
Speaker 9: so she did, and there was a partnership between the
Speaker 9: city and the county and so that ended, things got better.
Speaker 9: And so now I know the sheriff and the mayor
Speaker 9: are talking again about the counties roll in again, it's
Speaker 9: through the sheriff as to what that partnership will look
Speaker 9: like here. But you are correct, I mean, if we
Speaker 9: have continued violence in the city cores that obviously impacts
Speaker 9: all of what we're just talking about, whether it's on
Speaker 9: the banks or down a fountain Square or you know,
Speaker 9: some of these iconic places in the city and in
Speaker 9: the county when need get it under control. And so
Speaker 9: we are talking to the city, I know the sheriff
Speaker 9: importantly is talking to CPD to try to figure out
Speaker 9: what the best strategies are. It's a work in progress,
Speaker 9: but you know there, I heard some pretty strong language
Speaker 9: at the press conference yesterday, and so looking forward to
Speaker 9: our continued partnership there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't get whether the partnership dissolved in the
Speaker 1: first place. And now it's like in hindsight's twenty twenty gone. Boy,
Speaker 1: sure could use more boots on the ground. We could
Speaker 1: use use sheriff controls in certain areas here, and now
Speaker 1: we've got slot officers standing. It's not a good look
Speaker 1: for the city as we try to build a nice,
Speaker 1: new shiny thing to keep them from the outside coming in.
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, let me just clarify that. You know, the
Speaker 9: city asked us to come in for a month to
Speaker 9: do this work, and so that's exactly what the sheriff did, right,
Speaker 9: And some of it is just a matter of you
Speaker 9: know finances and resources because it's really CPD's territory. I mean,
Speaker 9: the sheriff is coming in to a territory that CPDS
Speaker 9: happily helping to do that. But there it has to
Speaker 9: be if we're going to have a long term arrangement,
Speaker 9: we have to figure that out.
Speaker 7: Ye.
Speaker 9: That will include some resources from the city, from the county.
Speaker 9: And so if that's the goal, then something we're open
Speaker 9: to talking about. That was not what we were asked
Speaker 9: to do, for my understanding, and so the sheriff did
Speaker 9: what he was asked to do. And so now you know,
Speaker 9: there's a continued conversation with her, and there are other
Speaker 9: actors and all of this. Can I back up and
Speaker 9: say one thing I forgot to mention, and it's on
Speaker 9: a more positive note. Over at the convention center, So
Speaker 9: the convention Center is being redone at the city County
Speaker 9: County partnership. A hotel will go just to the south.
Speaker 9: Let's not forget about the property to the east where
Speaker 9: the Millennium used to stey. Oh yeah, I remember the
Speaker 9: Millennium hotel. County invested there, got that under control, took
Speaker 9: it down. That space is this big green space that
Speaker 9: we are going to be programming and it allows us
Speaker 9: to program stuff that convention stuff that would otherwise be
Speaker 9: in a building, but move it outside. And this is
Speaker 9: something that is a trend in the market. I'm super
Speaker 9: excited there to way we're way ahead of the trends
Speaker 9: here and to use that for programmable space for conferences
Speaker 9: and sessions, but also for social events. It's going to
Speaker 9: be a real game changer for the convention center.
Speaker 1: She is Hamlin County Commission President Denise Dreehouse on the
Speaker 1: show this morning and talking about the arena site and
Speaker 1: Heritage Bank Center and that may be the spot where
Speaker 1: we put a new arena on top of the old
Speaker 1: one and what that all means. And that's a little
Speaker 1: bit down the line, but I appreciate it coming on
Speaker 1: this morning and then laying that out for us. Denise.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're well and we'll talk again soon.
Speaker 9: Yeah, thank you, Scott.
Speaker 5: I appreciate it, appreciate it.
Speaker 1: We'll get to a news update and more to follow.
Speaker 1: Sarah release and the Snort report stands by next Bengals
Speaker 1: and Thursday night football in town at pay Court tomorrow
Speaker 1: night light it up here seven hundred w it so
Speaker 1: long it feels like it's spent so long.
Speaker 2: How are you, well, you're the one who's crippled.
Speaker 1: How are you share Alisa's snort report. She comes over
Speaker 1: from one or two seven EBM, that's where import her from.
Speaker 1: And then she comes and snort your way through sports
Speaker 1: and Wednesday mornings and such with you. It's been been
Speaker 1: a while. What do we do last?
Speaker 2: I got the crutches.
Speaker 1: Crutches one more week. I think next Tuesday crutches should
Speaker 1: go bye bye.
Speaker 2: And you'll be walking around again. I missed the scooter. Yeah, selfishly,
Speaker 2: I liked riding around on it like I was the
Speaker 2: dude from Soul.
Speaker 1: And she's she's been driving me around like to work
Speaker 1: every morning for two weeks.
Speaker 2: Oh she's your personal uber.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, you know what, I probably can get
Speaker 1: the crutches instead of the scooter and that's fine.
Speaker 2: And one more week and week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah?
Speaker 2: Good is new?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 1: I heard anything like that? So I think I'm ready
Speaker 1: to go, but I don't want to push it till.
Speaker 2: And that's what happens is once you start to feel good,
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, I'm gonna go run a marathon, and
Speaker 2: then you're back and good.
Speaker 1: I still have the boot and the crutches, so I
Speaker 1: got it. I'm in a good boy. I'm gonna wait
Speaker 1: till my my doc. Doctor Baker says, let's go.
Speaker 2: Well, this is the time for the older gentlemen because
Speaker 2: we are getting ready for the icy hot bulls. In
Speaker 2: a little bit, I'm gonna share some of the comments
Speaker 2: on social media because it is so funny. So we
Speaker 2: know Aaron Rodgers being forty one, Joe Flacco forty years old,
Speaker 2: which I'm not too far from these guys. So all
Speaker 2: the older people comments kind of has me a little triggered.
Speaker 1: Well it should be of a little bit that's here.
Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, I'm not far from that.
Speaker 1: Well, the funny part is at my side. It's like,
Speaker 1: forty forty still young.
Speaker 2: Right for you, You're like kill to be forty forty.
Speaker 2: But it is kind of ironic that you got the
Speaker 2: older dudes out there and you got the young guys
Speaker 2: in a boot like yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, walking around Burrow with us must up toe. You
Speaker 1: feel about tomorrow night? You know what.
Speaker 2: I'm excited. I'm excited. I feel optimistic about it.
Speaker 1: What makes you you'll optimistic?
Speaker 5: You know what?
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco looked really good in that second half in
Speaker 2: Green Bay. I feel like he finally settled in. I mean, look,
Speaker 2: you got to give you got to give the guy
Speaker 2: some credit. It was a very last minute notice to
Speaker 2: get that call to go to Cincinnati. He had maybe
Speaker 2: two days to practice with the team and it was
Speaker 2: on a plane to Green Bay and you're you're doing
Speaker 2: You're battling it out at Lambeau, which is also a
Speaker 2: really hard place to play. Head coach Zac Taylor and
Speaker 2: his presser the other day he goes, look, Joe didn't
Speaker 2: even know the names of most of the guys on
Speaker 2: the team yet. He's still trying to settle in.
Speaker 1: But Flo's done this a little bit. So he's like,
Speaker 1: this is not his first road teams, Like he's seen
Speaker 1: pretty much off of every offensive scheme that you can.
Speaker 2: He's set up pretty much the entire AFC North. He
Speaker 2: could be with the Steelers by the time the season's
Speaker 2: over and Joe Burrow is back on the field.
Speaker 1: Right because if something happens to to a rod right now,
Speaker 1: you're thinking now, you're.
Speaker 2: Thinking, so I'll be there tomorrow night with my dad.
Speaker 2: We ever miss the Bengals Steelers game This is when
Speaker 2: we always look forward to. No matter who the quarterback is,
Speaker 2: we've seen it all. Unfortunately, we've seen too many losses.
Speaker 1: I think it's that again. I think here's the problem.
Speaker 1: Right the offensive line, Okay has some work to do
Speaker 1: there obviously still and he you know, they kept them upright,
Speaker 1: which is a great thing. Maybe different to get the Steelers.
Speaker 2: But I actually had what one sack last year.
Speaker 1: But the last problem is it damn you know? Okay,
Speaker 1: the offen showed them the second half of the defense
Speaker 1: fall apart.
Speaker 2: Can we just have it all? Please you? And what
Speaker 2: about Moneymack with like the sixty seven yarder that didn't
Speaker 2: count in my head.
Speaker 1: On my Bengal thing in the entire game.
Speaker 2: I looked at my husband, I said, you know, when
Speaker 2: it does count, he's not going to make it, of
Speaker 2: course not.
Speaker 1: That's a hard sixty seven is a big ask. Like
Speaker 1: that's the whole field again, Bengal luck working against us
Speaker 1: in this case.
Speaker 2: This is I feel about tomorrow night?
Speaker 5: Do you?
Speaker 7: I mean?
Speaker 1: Okay, I look at Okay, you got Joe Flacco, he's
Speaker 1: hitting some of the guy. Okay, can you outscore Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: at this point? I just the defense. Like, I'll be
Speaker 1: honest with you, I haven't seen damn thing out of
Speaker 1: the defense. It makes me think that they can carry
Speaker 1: this team into the fourth quarter. That's what scares me
Speaker 1: about it because I think Pittsburgh just smash Mouth. They're
Speaker 1: going to come in and I think it's going to
Speaker 1: be close in it maybe another Green Bay situation.
Speaker 2: I think it is going to be a close game.
Speaker 2: I have no idea what's going to happen tomorrow night.
Speaker 2: I feel like every time.
Speaker 1: They got to win, I mean, this is it.
Speaker 2: Every time it's a surprise. But yes, this is a
Speaker 2: must win situation if you want to try to keep
Speaker 2: up in the AFC North, Yep, take advantage of how
Speaker 2: bad the Browns and the Ravens are doing.
Speaker 1: Take advantage of that, right, full advantage. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: tough to catch Pittsburgh. But you get it really because
Speaker 1: you got at Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's kind of then you and then you've
Speaker 2: got ten days off to get it together with your
Speaker 2: new QB. So this really is a must win for
Speaker 2: the battle.
Speaker 1: You got to come out and you go to that
Speaker 1: buy of the win, half the win. This must win
Speaker 1: otherwise I don't know how they I don't know how
Speaker 1: they pull it off.
Speaker 2: I don't know how you keep up in the conversation.
Speaker 5: You do.
Speaker 2: I don't want this to be a four win season, Okay, please,
Speaker 2: but yeah, with Aaron Rodgers being forty one Flak being
Speaker 2: forty this this is just the second matchup of starting
Speaker 2: QB's forty or older in NFL history. So we're witnessing.
Speaker 1: This is great for you.
Speaker 2: I am so excited for this. Okay, I think this
Speaker 2: is great. The comments are hilarious. But Tom Brady and
Speaker 2: Drew Brees the last one is to do it back
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, so uh, get ready for history. Baby.
Speaker 2: This is fun.
Speaker 1: This historic. Did they take a nap at halftime? It's
Speaker 1: like a five minute too.
Speaker 2: That's what I was going to get to. So some
Speaker 2: of the comments under the post, this is the battle
Speaker 2: of the Granddaddy's. Oh my gosh, I feel so old.
Speaker 2: Instead of a sideline reporter, put a staff of nurses
Speaker 2: out there. Yeah, a few other ones. This game should
Speaker 2: be sponsored by AARP, calling it the Geriatric Bowl. Someone
Speaker 2: said eight point fifteen is too late of a start
Speaker 2: for guys that are in bed by seven.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you can't do that. Yeah, should be
Speaker 1: playing the London game.
Speaker 2: Look, we just in the morning. I want to sit
Speaker 2: there with my cine bums and watch the daddies go
Speaker 2: at it. Yeah, yeah, I'm excited. I don't know. I'll
Speaker 2: be there with my dad. We just laugh to keep
Speaker 2: him crying. That's what happens.
Speaker 1: That's all you can do is as a Bengals fan,
Speaker 1: because at this point we'll be going how many days?
Speaker 1: If they lose tomorrow, it's how many days till opening Day?
Speaker 2: Oh? Mike, what are we at? One fifty? I don't know,
Speaker 2: something like that. We've got Reds Fest in January. That's
Speaker 2: something to look forward to. The dude, Pittsburgh. All teams
Speaker 2: beat Pittsburgh, I said, must win. Some positive news, how golden?
Speaker 2: Yesterday talking to media our defensive coordinator, he said that
Speaker 2: Jamar Stewart finally back. Remember he went down Week two
Speaker 2: with that ankle injury. I know we're all kind of like,
Speaker 2: who's Chamar's Stewart? What happened to him? So anyways, he's back.
Speaker 2: Not sure what's going to go down with Trey Hendrickson
Speaker 2: dealing with a bad back injury. I think he's playing tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I think I think I'll seehim there minutes before kickoff.
Speaker 2: Right, Zach Taylor will say, uh, hey, by the way,
Speaker 2: he'll be out there.
Speaker 1: We will see Stewart tomorrow.
Speaker 2: That's what Al Golden is saying.
Speaker 1: Okay, that'll be big. He needs a He looked good
Speaker 1: in the limited starts he had. But yeah, getting some
Speaker 1: guy's healthy gay night back there, that's gonna help tremendously.
Speaker 2: I think. So Logan Wilson or yeah, Logan Wilson had
Speaker 2: talked to media yesterday about getting benched for that Green
Speaker 2: Bay A.
Speaker 1: Talk about old. There's your guy getting old. That's what
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 2: He's not old, he's not even thirty.
Speaker 1: Okay, but he doesn't look the same. Zach Taylor said,
Speaker 1: he looking old and feeling old are two different things.
Speaker 2: I understand that. Unfortunately, I'm going through both. I know
Speaker 2: I'm looking old, I'm feeling old.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing okay looking old, Sarah.
Speaker 2: Feeling old like so many needles you can put in
Speaker 2: my face, and needles into your ankle and your foot
Speaker 2: and your knee and your shoulder and everything.
Speaker 1: You're doing it.
Speaker 2: You're going to be like Joe Burrow, like a whole robotic.
Speaker 1: I'm doing it. You feel better. You do it to
Speaker 1: look better. Those are two different types of procedures.
Speaker 2: Hey, when you look good, you feel good. Feel good,
Speaker 2: look good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hell, don't overdo it. Don't turn into plastic surgery mass.
Speaker 1: You're not going to do that.
Speaker 2: Are you gonna afford to do that?
Speaker 1: That's probably a good thing.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 2: God's like, I'm going to keep you poor, so you
Speaker 2: don't get.
Speaker 1: Had plastic surgery in their thirties and forties, but then
Speaker 1: they're fifty, they look like the scream masks. Oh good,
Speaker 1: look yeah.
Speaker 2: You only want the screen mask for one day out
Speaker 2: of the year for Halloween. So but yeah. So Logan
Speaker 2: Wilson he had talked to media about getting bench. She said,
Speaker 2: I can look back at this time of adversity and
Speaker 2: be able to tell my kids how to work through it.
Speaker 2: Looks like the Bengals are going to be starting Barrett
Speaker 2: Barrett Carter. So he told Barrett that he wants to
Speaker 2: help him out in any way. There's no hard feelings
Speaker 2: about anything. Logan Wilson handling it like a true pro
Speaker 2: and Barrett said, nothing but love and respect for Logan Wilson.
Speaker 2: So there you go. That's what's trending with our Bengals.
Speaker 1: Okay, and I saw the Thursday football teams are in
Speaker 1: town already getting paid core ready to go. Yeah, great
Speaker 1: under the lights. The weather's gonna be phenomenal.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's gonna feel like football weather. It's gonna be gorgeous.
Speaker 2: It's a big white out. Yeah. The team had a
Speaker 2: late night practice. They actually had it at Pakor Stadium
Speaker 2: last night and they were getting the white out ready.
Speaker 2: So go check out the Bengals social media for that.
Speaker 2: They've got like white and black tiger striped walls up
Speaker 2: against the you know, around the whole field. It looks
Speaker 2: really cool. So if you look cool, you're gonna play cool,
Speaker 2: right all right? Even in the icy hot Bowl. The
Speaker 2: Bengals didn't announce the other day that the ruler of
Speaker 2: the Jungle is going to be Andrew Whitworth. He kind
Speaker 2: of gives the Bengals a hard time.
Speaker 1: Do I think of love?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's okay. You can be both.
Speaker 2: You can be a fan and you can also give
Speaker 2: your team a hard time. I think it should be
Speaker 2: like that all right.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 1: The big question is.
Speaker 2: Can he suit up?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Can we put them out there.
Speaker 1: It's not the injuries on the field. It's the injuries
Speaker 1: like at Fountain Square or anybody gets shot. Why would
Speaker 1: you go there, because that's the big story today.
Speaker 2: Did you see that they're gonna have police and swats
Speaker 2: it up front two pm to ten pm?
Speaker 1: The National Guard here? We can't have the National Guard.
Speaker 1: It looks it's terribly you got these uniform paramilitary trippers.
Speaker 1: By the way, we're gonna have swat officers. I think
Speaker 1: to the untrained eye, you look at a SWAT officer
Speaker 1: and you look at it, we kind of freak out
Speaker 1: a little round. Well, you look at National Guards. I
Speaker 1: know the difference between the two, obviously, but when for
Speaker 1: the average percy you look at it, go I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's a guy that's just in tactical gear with them
Speaker 1: the sell type or right full and a helmet on.
Speaker 1: It's like, what whether it's a National Guarden, it's the
Speaker 1: same thing. And you're still not leaning into having the
Speaker 1: troopers come down, State troopers and and that whole thing.
Speaker 1: It's like it's just more of the same. It's like
Speaker 1: you could see this coming because they just slow played
Speaker 1: the whole thing, going okay, well we'll try a little more.
Speaker 1: How are the curfews working out? And how's it's it's not.
Speaker 2: The curfew thing is not working Yeah, clearly. And you
Speaker 2: know it's bad when Jeff Ruby's releases the presser and
Speaker 2: starts making moves, start making it in Lympika out yep Ooh.
Speaker 1: The climate on tom properties, I guess I get that,
Speaker 1: but it's like it's a safety issue and we're moving
Speaker 1: it to Walnut and correct. Tell you what, you have
Speaker 1: more bullets flying and Fountain Square, that nice shiny rubies
Speaker 1: you're eating at they're gonna move. Can you imagine? And
Speaker 1: we don't want them, do you imagine? No, the flagship
Speaker 1: restaurant for the culinary experience in Cincinnati, Britney.
Speaker 2: Ruby is my mayor of Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Is she pulls out of there?
Speaker 2: Oh we're done. We don't want that to happen. That
Speaker 2: is a beautiful restaurant.
Speaker 1: Oh you're going.
Speaker 2: And then right around the corner, you've got the lighting
Speaker 2: of the Christmas tree coming up. You've got all you know,
Speaker 2: the ice skating coming like, let's come on, get it together.
Speaker 1: You have this clown that just keeps going. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: we got at more, you know, more hands on we
Speaker 1: need more programs. And this is what happens when you
Speaker 1: just let sociopaths run the streets unchecked.
Speaker 2: An eight o'clock shooting on a Monday night, right out
Speaker 2: right outside of Jeff Ruby's.
Speaker 1: Not good, Ballsy, not good.
Speaker 2: And it's not just the teenagers. Now, these were twenty
Speaker 2: year olds that were involved.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple of teens, a twenty four year old dude.
Speaker 1: And they're still looking for the guy that the big guy,
Speaker 1: uh huh, looking for Biggie Smalls.
Speaker 2: That video was triggering. They released that the other night.
Speaker 1: I don't know this, this fat guy that's the streets.
Speaker 1: The guy couldn't have gone to. Maybe you want to
Speaker 1: stake out a drive through.
Speaker 2: But yeah, there's a lot going on in Cincinnati. Uh
Speaker 2: this weekend. You know, You've got the Bengals tomorrow night,
Speaker 2: and then FC Cincinnati for their fan appreciation night at
Speaker 2: t Q Well, and then Cyclones hockey is back on
Speaker 2: Saturday night. And guess who's sounding the siren? Your husband,
Speaker 2: our girl, Tiff Potter, she is, Yes, I will be
Speaker 2: there with her on Saturday night.
Speaker 1: She got a job fast, I know.
Speaker 2: Sounding the siren for the Sinnai Cyclones for the first
Speaker 2: face off. Yeah, it'll be a good time.
Speaker 1: All right, good, well, she needs to get out and
Speaker 1: have some fun after the.
Speaker 2: Reduction and force unfortunately, Yeah, we very much. But she's
Speaker 2: gonna land on her feet on shore and do great.
Speaker 1: So that's the nature of our economy these days.
Speaker 2: Go out and support our cyclones and our girl tiff
Speaker 2: on Saturday.
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? I just had Denise Treehouse.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard that at all, but
Speaker 1: the shoes talking about the arena. They want to put
Speaker 1: the arena on top of the old arena now that
Speaker 1: that's open. I wanted to lean on that because that
Speaker 1: sounds like that was off the table. How are we
Speaker 1: going to do?
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 1: What do you do with the cyclones? If they shut that,
Speaker 1: they blow the arena up and it's closed for two years,
Speaker 1: what are they gonna play?
Speaker 2: I guess they could take over.
Speaker 1: Or would they go to Kentucky?
Speaker 2: I probably would you play?
Speaker 1: You can't plan. I'm thinking where you play like Sports
Speaker 1: Plus had never hold it or Northland. It's not you're
Speaker 1: not gonna get seating there. So what did it have
Speaker 1: to be at?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they see ten thousand heritage, do they.
Speaker 1: Have ice capacity at Northern Kentucky.
Speaker 2: You can lay some lice, lay some ice anywhere. I
Speaker 2: guess you.
Speaker 1: Can't need a refrigeration. I mean, I guess you could
Speaker 1: do a raise thing like they do for the Winter Classic,
Speaker 1: But I don't know how you freeze that if there's.
Speaker 2: No Well, the arena managers, well, I guess they put
Speaker 2: everything on top of ice constantly for concerts and comedians.
Speaker 1: But the ice, the the integration for the ice is
Speaker 1: below the surface too. He's gonna have to refrigerate it.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if they floating. I don't know
Speaker 1: how they do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know either.
Speaker 1: I have to be Northern Kentucky if they do it.
Speaker 2: But that's interesting.
Speaker 1: Anyway, Go to Dayton, send them up to Dayton, Google
Speaker 1: play there.
Speaker 2: Selfishly, I don't want that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of a drunk right now.
Speaker 2: I'm a mile away, so I'm like, stick around here
Speaker 2: somehow find out. But they do deserve a new arena, all.
Speaker 1: Right, snorts. Give me a prediction for tomorrow. What do
Speaker 1: you got, Bengals? Oh my gosh, I think it's to
Speaker 1: Steelers six. Is that where you're going with?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Twenty seventeen, Bengals twenty seventeen, Moneymack twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: You want at the end to win it a sixty
Speaker 2: seven yarder?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be ready for this one? Ready?
Speaker 2: One?
Speaker 1: Twenty four to twenty four tie? Swear?
Speaker 2: Can we please stop the ties and everything?
Speaker 1: It's so bad? I hate tis.
Speaker 2: It's just play until you win.
Speaker 1: So many dice falls over, that's the game.
Speaker 2: Like baseball. You gotta go to fifteen innings to get
Speaker 2: it done, and so be it.
Speaker 1: Keep Southern death. That's fine if you need to do
Speaker 1: the the overtimerals, but just keep going to you get
Speaker 1: a winner. Ties are dumb.
Speaker 5: I hate it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are the Packers now? Three? One and one?
Speaker 2: This is in soccer, stupid, No, and soccer shouldn't end
Speaker 2: in a tie either. Just go un till your score.
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