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Speaker 1: And now, guess what turns out that strategy might work

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Speaker 2: I've been down the district to a couple times myself.

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Speaker 4: However, many years ago, knowing that four officers were a

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Speaker 1: But isn't that an indication Anna that it's too far gone?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let me push back on that. A couple of points.

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Speaker 4: Hey, our judges are making sure that laws are performed

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Speaker 4: I think everything worth discussing. For now, it's the kind

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Speaker 1: Fund Well, they don't deserve all this. That's the point

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Speaker 4: Yeah, again, I'm open to all these conversations with Metro.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 4: That's ultimately where we got.

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. I mean, we can teach

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 4: And then in terms of the hearing, now, that is

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Speaker 4: We do have the troopers coming in helping, I'm going

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Speaker 1: Because like two days a month or something stupid like that.

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Speaker 4: bring in support and having you know, swat out state

435
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Speaker 4: control supporting these like hot spots right now.

436
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Speaker 1: Sure, But again it took too long. I mean, that

437
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Speaker 1: was something was offered a couple of months ago after

438
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Speaker 1: you know, after the brawl and went July, and here

439
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Speaker 1: it is, we're almost in the November at this point,

440
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Speaker 1: and now we're like, okay, now they're fire, We're going

441
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Speaker 1: to get them a couple of days. It just it

442
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Speaker 1: just seems like we're I don't know, fighting against law enforcement.

443
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Speaker 1: Then we just turn around, puts a lot of us

444
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Speaker 1: on the street. How any different is that than having

445
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Speaker 1: National guardsmen out there? They look the same.

446
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Speaker 4: Well, national guardsmen are not trained in our collaborative agreement.

447
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Speaker 4: They're not they don't know our people. And frankly, that

448
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Speaker 4: the scenes I've seen coming out of Chicago with Ice said.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying I have the National guard I'm saying it,

450
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Speaker 1: that's what it looks like. It's the same. What's the

451
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Speaker 1: difference between local squad offers and that as far in

452
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Speaker 1: the court of public opinion. And yeah, I get the

453
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Speaker 1: training element, but I think people see that you see

454
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Speaker 1: paramilitary troopers that are either squat or now it doesn't matter.

455
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Speaker 1: You've got guys in tactical gears standing on that Fountain

456
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Speaker 1: Square to intimidate the bad guys. It's the same look.

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Speaker 4: I you know, for me, I will say, I don't

458
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Speaker 4: think living in a police state, and that's why I

459
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Speaker 4: think I'm hearing from me living in a police state

460
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Speaker 4: isn't our perfect version of safety. And I agree, right,

461
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Speaker 4: but to your point, like there's a crisis right now

462
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Speaker 4: and we're doing everything we can, and if you know,

463
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Speaker 4: four cops standing on Fountain Square wasn't enough, and you

464
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Speaker 4: know what's the next step. So it's really a balance here, right,

465
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Speaker 4: I mean, I agree, I don't think having a police

466
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Speaker 4: date is is where we want to be. But if

467
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Speaker 4: we are, you know, have so many guns in the street,

468
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Speaker 4: and we've got to bring in help.

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Speaker 5: To to de escalate and keep those.

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Speaker 4: Guns, you know, out of the wrong hands. We're going

471
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Speaker 4: to do it right now because again, like we're taking

472
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Speaker 4: this all very seriously, and I want to follow up,

473
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Speaker 4: go back to where you're started the conversation in terms

474
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Speaker 4: of what we heard from public facey public commenters yesterday,

475
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Speaker 4: following up immediately, in fact, I'd already been my O office,

476
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Speaker 4: had already been in contact with one of the gentlemen

477
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Speaker 4: and got you know, an email after immediately, and we're

478
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Speaker 4: working quickly here, and I go back to problem solving

479
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Speaker 4: and how do we address these issues at the spot right,

480
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Speaker 4: we heard some.

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Speaker 1: Weed we needed to and I had to touch off,

482
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Speaker 1: but I got to get going way away over like

483
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Speaker 1: she's conc member and I'll be law in public safety.

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Speaker 1: I know we just addressed a lot there, but I

485
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Speaker 1: appreciate your thoughtful consideration and conversation and in the back

486
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Speaker 1: and forth was really good. Hopefully people listen to this

487
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Speaker 1: and and and the right people listen to this, so

488
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Speaker 1: we get some answered soon because this date, I'll agree

489
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Speaker 1: with the mayor. It's intolerable for sure. Hey, all the best.

490
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Speaker 1: Good luck on the campaign. I know you're doing that

491
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Speaker 1: as well, seeking the reelection and council. Anna, thanks for

492
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Speaker 1: coming on the show. Be well, good luck, appreciate it. Thanks,

493
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Speaker 1: take care. We got to get the news, run the light.

494
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Speaker 1: We'll get your reaction to this, so more gun laws

495
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Speaker 1: will solve this. Well, then let's talk about that coming

496
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Speaker 1: up next on seven hundred W them Scott's Loan Here,

497
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Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW. I was gonna have time to get

498
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Speaker 1: to play some of the Terry Thigi audio. It's Cincinnati's Grandma,

499
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Speaker 1: Terry Thigi, and she can tell there's frustration with her too,

500
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Speaker 1: and the press conference after press conference, Scott's Loan here,

501
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Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW, last fight, Anna ol beyond council member.

502
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: I'll be law in public safety, she thought. Through the testimony,

503
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Speaker 1: people saying, look, what am I going to tell my

504
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Speaker 1: tenants people want to rent from me? I own property.

505
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: I'm a business owner, and I need bodies to move downtown.

506
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: I don't need bodies moving away from downtown. What do

507
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Speaker 1: I tell tenants to say? Ask the question am I

508
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Speaker 1: going to be safe? Will I be safe? I don't

509
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Speaker 1: have an answer for that, or people going listen, I tried.

510
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Speaker 1: I mean, I bought into Cincinnati and the urban thing,

511
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Speaker 1: and I just I can't do it anymore. It's just

512
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Speaker 1: the dangers all over the place. And there are people say, well,

513
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Speaker 1: statistically it's fine, Well you don't live in statistics, do you.

514
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Speaker 1: And that's why another reason I hate numbers, I hate

515
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Speaker 1: the statistics it is because of that. It's like, well, yeah,

516
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Speaker 1: I don't live in statistics, man, I know what I see.

517
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Speaker 1: Same thing when you watch a football game, numberrow and

518
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Speaker 1: Joe Flack will make a completion that had a one

519
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Speaker 1: point two percent chance of being successful. Okay, then why

520
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: would you throw that ball? So the numbers are always

521
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Speaker 1: what they are, right, And it's perception. And I'm sorry

522
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Speaker 1: when I see people shooting across Fountain Square at each other,

523
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Speaker 1: when I see some guy recognizing someoney at a beef

524
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Speaker 1: with and he settles beef by pulling out a gun

525
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Speaker 1: and shooting rounds through cityberg Chicken on Fountain Square and

526
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Speaker 1: then runs away like it's just me and him. It's

527
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Speaker 1: our world, you know, the time for the time for

528
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Speaker 1: feel goods. And I'm sorry that's over. You got at

529
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Speaker 1: some point, you got split wigs. That's what this is.

530
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Speaker 1: And Fiji said yesterday and it's about time that what

531
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Speaker 1: they're going to do is restore broken windows policing, which

532
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Speaker 1: basically means we're going after the little stuff. We see

533
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Speaker 1: you jaywalking, we see you smoking a joint, we see

534
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Speaker 1: you doing something that technically is we're going to make

535
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Speaker 1: contact with you. Screw. I was rallying her, feels the

536
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Speaker 1: hell with her, this is what we're gonna do. And

537
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Speaker 1: then how about this other element instead of and she

538
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Speaker 1: proposed that we need more gun laws. We do not

539
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Speaker 1: need more gun laws. We don't need more laws restricting

540
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Speaker 1: the Again, most Americans ninety nine percent plus are completely

541
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Speaker 1: law abiding and use their guns responsibly. And I get it.

542
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Speaker 1: We've got a lot of guns out there because every

543
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Speaker 1: time we propose more gun laws, people buy more guns.

544
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Speaker 1: And the same thing happens in Cincinnati. Okay, well, why

545
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Speaker 1: do we have somebody guns on the street. We have

546
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Speaker 1: so many guns on the street because when people go

547
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Speaker 1: downtown who have to liver work there, they're scared because

548
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Speaker 1: of stuff like this. Because you've ignored the problem for

549
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Speaker 1: so long, Mayor, and and largely progressives and Democrats, you've

550
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 1: forgotten and you know all the programs and the money,

551
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 1: we're fun and we're doing well. We can't. We can't

552
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 1: have ostracized kids. And they're young kids and they deserve

553
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Speaker 1: a chance. I'm sorry, when you pick up a gun,

554
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: your chances are over. Enough of this nonsense, and because

555
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 1: of all this death and destroy and the threat of

556
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Speaker 1: somebody like Ruby's pulling out of downtown. Can you imagine,

557
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: and people moving out of downtown, And now all of

558
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: a sudden, it's like, well, you know all these feel

559
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Speaker 1: good things that we thought were good in theory in

560
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: reality like that, it doesn't work. So now we got

561
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Speaker 1: to split wigs. Good. We should be doing that. We

562
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Speaker 1: should be doing that. But the idea that we have

563
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Speaker 1: more gun laws, well, okay, great, we have gun laws,

564
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Speaker 1: and people are coming downtown because they're scared they have guns,

565
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Speaker 1: and their signs up saying don't bring your gun anywhere,

566
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Speaker 1: So I leave at my car, and then people are

567
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Speaker 1: breaking into cars because they know that's where the guns are.

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Speaker 1: It's a self fulfilling prophecy. How do you end that thing?

569
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Speaker 1: You start making examples of the people are committing gun crimes.

570
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Speaker 1: When somebody cuts an ankle monitor off, you don't wait

571
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Speaker 1: a month, two weeks, a year later and go, well,

572
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Speaker 1: we'll get you. When you get you, well maybe they'll

573
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Speaker 1: turn themselves in. You go and you get a task

574
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Speaker 1: force and you bring them to justice. Like I said,

575
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Speaker 1: how many times is it? This twenty four year old

576
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Speaker 1: it's not his first time at the road. You guarantee it.

577
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Speaker 1: You just don't wake up one day and pull out

578
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Speaker 1: a gun and shoot at someone. They's got to have pride.

579
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Speaker 1: There's no roo almost willing to bet the house that

580
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Speaker 1: that guy is restricted from having a gun. He's under disability.

581
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Speaker 1: I mean he had a prior felony at twenty four.

582
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Speaker 1: He shouldn't have that gun. Well, we got to pass

583
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Speaker 1: laws to make sure people like that. No, what we

584
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 1: have to do is take people like that and go

585
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Speaker 1: you go to prison for thirty years for that like

586
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: we used to. But then, oh, but you know society

587
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,239
Speaker 1: people are there's backlash and this is what happens when

588
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Speaker 1: you don't do that. It's exactly what happens when you

589
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: don't do that. And now you know they're throwing out

590
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Speaker 1: how many more adjectives? Is aft have pure hole going

591
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Speaker 1: to use? Today's at the adjective it's like Sesame Street

592
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Speaker 1: with Grover not The adjective of the day is intolerable. Yeah, okay, great,

593
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Speaker 1: and tomorrow will be something else, a bond bull or

594
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Speaker 1: you're gonna run out eventually. It's significant changes are coming

595
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 1: after violence downtown. What are they doing? They're having swat

596
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: in the civil Disturfence Response team and Okay, what we

597
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: don't want is the National Guard here, and we don't

598
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: want the State of Ohio here because it makes us

599
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: look bad. What's the optics of having Thursday night football

600
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Speaker 1: in Cincinnati downtown. They show that shot of Fountain Square

601
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 1: and what you see are I'm sorry, paramilitary troops that

602
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: are swat officers. There's a bit of a difference there.

603
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: I get that, but I'm sorry someone the average person

604
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Speaker 1: looks at someone an individual who's got tactical gear on,

605
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Speaker 1: got a vest, you're all strapped down, you got your

606
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Speaker 1: tactical helmet on, you got your visors, you're carrying a

607
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: long gun. You're standing on Fountain Square. People see that

608
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: and go paramilitary. They don't go, oh, that's just a

609
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: swat officer versus a National guardsman versus No, they're only

610
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: going to go Cincinnatreie is dangerous AF That's what people think.

611
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Speaker 1: But I'll talk about the fields. Well, we'll use our

612
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: swat officers. They're different and it all looks the same

613
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Speaker 1: to me. Baby. And you guys did this. You did this, AFTAB,

614
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Speaker 1: the policies that you stand behind did this. Five three seven,

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Speaker 1: The big one talk back iHeartRadio app and you can

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Speaker 1: look at you can also drop that if you're listening

617
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Speaker 1: on the stream extream the show be the iHeartRadio app

618
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Speaker 1: on that is a Harry on the show. Good morning,

619
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Speaker 1: good morning. Uh you heard the words of council Member Anna.

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Speaker 1: I'll be on this the shooting downtown. Ruby's may pull

621
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Speaker 1: out at some point if this just kind of behavior continues.

622
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Speaker 1: We have SWAT officers to me, look like National guardsmen

623
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Speaker 1: patrolling our the center of our city. And yet I'm

624
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Speaker 1: hearing about how we need more gun laws and we

625
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: need more programs. Enough of the nonsense. You got to

626
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Speaker 1: start splitting wigs, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: Oh, most definitely. Yeah, I've listening to that conversation. I

628
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Speaker 7: wanted to drive my car off a bridge. The judges

629
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Speaker 7: don't profit. If the judges don't take care of getting

630
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Speaker 7: people off the street when presented with the facts, then

631
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Speaker 7: the number of guns are just going to continue to

632
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Speaker 7: be where they are.

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Speaker 1: There's a question somebody, you put them in jail.

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Speaker 7: That's a gun off the street.

635
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Speaker 1: But I think, but I've had a gun off the street.

636
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Speaker 1: That's a person who's going to use the gun. And

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00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: commission of a crime off the street. And furthermore, if

638
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: you have someone who has an ankle monitor, they caught

639
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: off and we'll go I'll just catch you later. How

640
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: many more people are going to needlessly become victims of crime,

641
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Speaker 1: and often violent crime and often homicide if we continue

642
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: that behavior. We don't need laws. We need more laws.

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Speaker 1: We need to damn enforce the laws that we already have.

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Speaker 7: Oh, there's no question. And I wonder if that particular

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Speaker 7: council person has ever stood.

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Speaker 1: At Government Square.

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Speaker 7: At four o'clock in the afternoon and watched what goes

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Speaker 7: on there. Herd thing about people are taking the buses

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Speaker 7: and getting them off the Government Square primarily to go

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Speaker 7: to work. It's a bunch of nonsense. Okay, I worked downtown.

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Speaker 7: That's not what goes on on Government Square. Yes, to

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Speaker 7: are people that go there to use the buses to

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Speaker 7: go to work, correct, But there's a whole bunch of

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Speaker 7: other people that are just there.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, there are, And you know it does it's

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Speaker 1: not all the people. And you know, we're gotta be careful.

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Speaker 1: You just shut it down because you have school kids,

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Speaker 1: you know, using metro, You have people who are commuting

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Speaker 1: using metro, and then of course you have people up

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Speaker 1: to no good using Metro And I just don't understand

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Speaker 1: why do we have to have that bus station at

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Speaker 1: Government Square, Because they the people that are causing trouble

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Speaker 1: come out and then they shoot at each other. They

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Speaker 1: cause problems. There's violence all the time around that Metro stop.

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Speaker 1: It happens all the Why not move the damn thing

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Speaker 1: to the Fort Washington Way Garage. It's underground first of all,

667
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Speaker 1: so you stay dry, but you also have you can

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Speaker 1: also monitor the entrance and exits, the ingress and egress points,

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Speaker 1: and then if somebody does something stupid in there, you

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Speaker 1: spot somebody, you could put cameras up there to have

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Speaker 1: technology that spots the gun inside your clothing. You can

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Speaker 1: have offices there intercepting people. Then if you have to

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Speaker 1: lock it down, you've got to point in point B

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Speaker 1: to do that, and that's going to deter that crime.

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Speaker 1: And if people have to commute to Fountain Square, why

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Speaker 1: not run some shuttles that look like streetcars and run

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Speaker 1: bus lines to Fountain Square to get the commuters there.

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Speaker 1: It seems to me that's where we need to move

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Speaker 1: it as away from from Fountain Square and move it

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Speaker 1: to an area that can be better monitored.

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Speaker 7: Sel you're using logic, and logic doesn't enter into the

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Speaker 7: conversation when you're dealing with politicians. All you did is

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Speaker 7: word salad with ideas, but no gumption to move on

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Speaker 7: these ideas.

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Speaker 1: That's the problem. It's also the fear of backlash from

686
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Speaker 1: other progressives that you're just causing more problems and you're

687
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Speaker 1: ostracizing people and you're labeling them. It's more of the

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Speaker 1: IRIS rally stuff. Harry, thanks the call to Brian in

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Speaker 1: Mount Auburn on the Scottslan share A show seven underd

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Speaker 1: W Brian High.

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Speaker 8: Hey Scott, how you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing well? What you got well?

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Speaker 8: We lived down pounds for twelve years and back in

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Speaker 8: March we moved to Mount Auburn and a big part

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Speaker 8: of that was what was happening downtown. I mean we

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Speaker 8: still walk to downtown, we still go support the places

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Speaker 8: we always have, but at night we just wanted to

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Speaker 8: feel safe when walked in the dog or something like that.

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Speaker 8: And listening to the council memory had on when you

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Speaker 8: brought up the fact that we're not enforcing the judges

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Speaker 8: aren't enforcing the laws.

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Speaker 5: That are played that's a huge part of it.

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Speaker 8: We have family and that are CPD.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, yeah, Brian, Brian, apologize, I'm losing your sales

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Speaker 1: fading out there, but I get the crutch with what

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Speaker 1: you're saying. I appreciate you listening to show and checking

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Speaker 1: in this morning, and yeah, I hear about you know, hey,

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Speaker 1: we need to try to reform people and get them

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Speaker 1: at a younger Okay, great, but that's that's way down

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Speaker 1: the line. You're talking about what five, six, seven, eight

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Speaker 1: year olds. I'm talking about twenty four year olds going

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Speaker 1: shooting rounds to the window at City Bird. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's a little late for the programs in the fields. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's put that in Stue. I'm a hundred percent with you.

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Speaker 1: But when people like that, and I almost willing to

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Speaker 1: bet that that twenty four year old gut in the

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Speaker 1: white T shirt, that that guy has had priors, that

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Speaker 1: they know who that is, that he's going to come

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Speaker 1: back and he's gonna have a jacket. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how thick it is, but there's gonna be something in

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Speaker 1: that jacket. It's going to show you that he shouldn't

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Speaker 1: have a gun in the first place. So I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: We need more laws and tougher gun laws. What is

724
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Speaker 1: that going to do for people who simply don't care

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Speaker 1: that they're going to shoot someone they had a beef

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Speaker 1: with in the in broad daylight. I mean, we had

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Speaker 1: a gunfight across Fountain Square to a guy in a

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Speaker 1: car and a guy Fountain Square just shooting at the

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Speaker 1: guy in the car during rush hour. But how many

730
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Speaker 1: laws did you break right there? Do you think they cared?

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Speaker 1: They don't, And that's what we just need. More tougher laws.

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Speaker 1: And we got to do something about all these guns.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 1: We got to do something about the a holes that

735
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Speaker 1: are ruined for ninety nine point nine percent of the

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Speaker 1: rest of the population. Target them quick, screw their feelings and

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Speaker 1: lock them up. I don't care how old they are,

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Speaker 1: Get them the hell off the street. Thanks for the call.

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Speaker 1: We'll switch it up. We'll get to a news update

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Speaker 1: here in just seconds, and then healthcare in crisis right

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Speaker 1: now one of my favorite topics to talk about, because

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Speaker 1: we're seeing this government shutdown on day fifteen, and there's

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Speaker 1: a solution for this thing. Because not shutting down, the

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Speaker 1: government's actually legislators doing their jobs, and that is fixing

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Speaker 1: healthcare and instead in Democrats and Republicans both the blind

746
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Speaker 1: because Democrats right now are shutting this down because want

747
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Speaker 1: we want more subsidy, and subsidy just means something costs

748
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Speaker 1: too much, and Republicans don't have a plan at all

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Speaker 1: to fix health care. How about you do this? How

750
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Speaker 1: about instead of giving money away and ignoring it, why

751
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Speaker 1: do you get together and figure out why our healthcare

752
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: costs so much and how we gets so a little

753
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Speaker 1: out of it? Maybe some answers just ahead with an

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Speaker 1: actual physician who sees this first hand. He's next in

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Speaker 1: the show seven hundred WWT Cincinnata. We Want It's got

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Speaker 1: flown back on seven hundred WLW. As the government shut

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Speaker 1: down continues over healthcare subsidies. It illustrates just how broken

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Speaker 1: our system is, and not yet uniformly broken, not beyond repair.

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's face, it's still an American anything's perspective.

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Speaker 1: You know, people still get excellent care, People still come

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Speaker 1: here from other countries to get medical care. Medical innovation

762
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 1: thrives in America. Way times are shorter than in single

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Speaker 1: pair systems. But I'm an less face at the cost

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Speaker 1: the access the people who are left in and excluded

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Speaker 1: from it. That's really the problem that's striving things in America,

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Speaker 1: and there's consequences for our broken healthcare system. What it

767
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: means for ordinary families on that is doctor Peter Cowie.

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Speaker 1: He's a cardiologist and public health expert and joins the

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Speaker 1: show now to discuss on seven hundred WLIW Doctor Kylie.

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Speaker 5: Welcome.

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Speaker 1: How are you, Scott?

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Speaker 5: Thanks for having me and I appreciate the invitation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think this is extremely relevant now that

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Speaker 1: we fight over healthcare subsidies and you know, you know,

775
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Speaker 1: there are a number of Americans that are dependent upon

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Speaker 1: that and working people who are working multiple jobs in

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Speaker 1: order to try and survive today, and they need healthcare.

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Speaker 1: It's not provided by their employer, and so ACA fills

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Speaker 1: that void. They get high scores for that. But you know,

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Speaker 1: to act like somehow it makes it a wartable, it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Because the tremendous amount of subsidy that's at stake here.

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Speaker 1: You continue to subsidize things, it distorts what the costs

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Speaker 1: really are. And it really it just glosses over a

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Speaker 1: broken system in that regard.

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Speaker 5: Doesn't it absolutely? You know, we have two populations that

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Speaker 5: are at risk here. One is obviously the uninsured, but

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Speaker 5: there's a gigantic proportion of our population who are under insured,

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Speaker 5: so they have to pay large deductibles, they have to

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Speaker 5: pay a lot of out of pocket expenses when they

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Speaker 5: seek medical care. Those are the people who are really

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Speaker 5: at risk here, and of course, with the reduction in

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Speaker 5: the subsidies, their premiums look like they're going to go

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Speaker 5: through the roof.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we have lawmakers breaking away, I mean, Tetle

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Speaker 1: Green from Georgia's saying, lo, listen, you know I've got

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Speaker 1: family members that rely on subsidies on the Affordable Care

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Speaker 1: Act in order to provide they they're working a few jobs.

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Speaker 1: I have family members that are like that right now.

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Speaker 1: You know this isn't like us against them, and we

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Speaker 1: must you know, it's because it's Obamacare. It must be destroyed.

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Speaker 1: It's propping up or broken in defunct system, and something

802
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Speaker 1: needs to be done because the future is not looking bright.

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Speaker 1: And you're right about that, in failure to treat what

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Speaker 1: this really means for ordinary families as things continue the

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Speaker 1: way they are. The broad picture on this, though, doctor

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Speaker 1: Cowie is Here's what I don't understand, right, is that

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Speaker 1: we have a not a good system. Was is what

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Speaker 1: Medicare and Medicaid and the Affordable character and Obamacare and

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Speaker 1: things are being propped up and subsidized, and it's ugly

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Speaker 1: and it doesn't work. The other side of it, it's

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Speaker 1: I don't see many ideas come out of the Republicans though,

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Speaker 1: when it comes to a better solution for this, other

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Speaker 1: than well, you know, it's socialized medicine and we can't

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Speaker 1: have that. What's the solution.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so you're entirely correct, we can't. We have a

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Speaker 5: patchwork system right now. We have people trying to get

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Speaker 5: health insurance in several different directions, and as we've already said,

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Speaker 5: at very high costs. It really is going to come down, unfortunately,

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Speaker 5: to a debate about whether we should as a country,

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Speaker 5: as a civilization here just say everybody has to have

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Speaker 5: affordable health care, and in whatever form that's going to take.

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Speaker 5: You've heard the term Medicare for all. That may be

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Speaker 5: a little bit large in terms of how much that

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Speaker 5: would cost and whether it could be implemented. But the

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Speaker 5: truth of the matter is that until we get to

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Speaker 5: the point that we all agree that this is not

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Speaker 5: a luxury, this is a necessity that we need to

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Speaker 5: provide affordable health care for all of our citizens. Until

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Speaker 5: we grasp that concept, I'm afraid that the system is

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Speaker 5: not going to get fixed.

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Speaker 1: In the Istean the overwriting story here regards of where

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Speaker 1: you stand politically on this, the fact is it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: I think everyone agrees in Republican Democrats know that it

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Speaker 1: doesn't work the way it is, and it's something has

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Speaker 1: to give because we spend what twice as much per

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Speaker 1: person on healthcare as other countries who are wealthy and

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Speaker 1: something like thirteen thou or thirteen grand per person angually

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Speaker 1: spend on healthcare, and a lot of those people don't

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Speaker 1: use healthcare. We're talking about younger people who don't use

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Speaker 1: healthcare as much as older people do, and we're not

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Speaker 1: getting any better outcomes. Number one cause of personal bankruptcy,

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Speaker 1: medical bills. That's that's no future for a that's still

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Speaker 1: a recipe for future success.

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Speaker 5: I should say no, we're spending four and a half

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Speaker 5: trillion dollars a year on healthcare in the United States,

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Speaker 5: projected in twenty thirty five to be closer to nine

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Speaker 5: trillion dollars on healthcare, and yet as you just said,

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Speaker 5: and I completely agree. We sit at the bottom in

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Speaker 5: ranks of civilized countries in terms of almost any healthcare

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Speaker 5: outcome measure you want to use, infant mortality, life expectancy.

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Speaker 5: It is not a system that's working, but we have

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Speaker 5: the resource. You're preamble by the way, I really appreciate

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Speaker 5: it because you're right, you know you can. The glass

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00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 5: isn't completely empty half empty. There's a lot of really

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Speaker 5: good things about our healthcare system. The problem is access.

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Speaker 5: The problem is allowing people to get into the system

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Speaker 5: so that they can take advantage of this wonderful technology

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Speaker 5: and innovation that we have here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we saw the murder of the CEO of United Healthcare,

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Speaker 1: and the reaction that I saw from a number of

861
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: people is sickening that we're celebrating the death of a

862
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: CEO of a company like he is the one driving

863
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: this problem people. And I get it, you know, it's

864
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,479
Speaker 1: a metaphor for the system that's broken. But I don't

865
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: understand celebrating someone's assassination basically is what happened here? What

866
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: does that tell you about where we're in and how

867
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: much of that has to do? And I get it,

868
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: you know, insurance companies and insurers. They stand the most

869
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: to gain by well what the democrats want. A lot

870
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: of this money is going to go to If you

871
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: subsidize anything, what happens is you just it just costs

872
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: you more. College is a great example. You know, we

873
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: subsidize college. Everyone has to go to college free college

874
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: money grants tuition on the thing, and college is raised it. Okay,

875
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: we're just going to charge more because more people have it,

876
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: more money, and it's artificial till you have to pay it.

877
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 1: The same thing is true here, isn't it.

878
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 7: Yeah?

879
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 5: I agree entirely. What you saw with the reaction to

880
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 5: that unfortunate event is how angry people are. I mean,

881
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 5: I think what you saw was a reflection of their

882
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 5: frustration and their anger with dealing with healthcare insurance companies

883
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 5: that they really don't care about you. I mean, they've

884
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 5: advertise on television how much they care, and the truth

885
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 5: of the matter is they don't. I don't know if

886
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 5: you saw recently, Scott, that a number of companies, including

887
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 5: Medicare as well, are now going to go to pre

888
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 5: certification done by artificial intelligence. Now think about that. Think

889
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 5: about that your doctor orders a test and some computer

890
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 5: is going to make a decision as to whether or

891
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 5: not you can get that test done or not. I mean,

892
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 5: that's the level of the absurdity that's going on with

893
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 5: pre certification, for example, or denials of care. And in

894
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 5: the book failure to treat their numerous examples in the

895
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 5: stories about people who suffered really severe harm because of

896
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 5: what happens with their medical insurance system as it currently exists.

897
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: Oh, you don't have to look far to find those

898
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: examples that you know, there's the things that you think

899
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: are covered and they try to find a way not

900
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: to cover it, or you know, it's almost a it's

901
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: hard enough when your child, for example, as you know

902
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: doctor Cowie is ill and you're trying to get them

903
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: treatment for something like pediatric cancer, heart or some sort

904
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: of serious illness like that, and then you're waging a

905
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: war with the insurance company on top of that. It

906
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 1: seems punitive.

907
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, And don't believe that the doctors aren't advocating. I mean,

908
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 5: my office spends almost a full fte just dealing with

909
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 5: insurance companies to get certification for procedures, and they put

910
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 5: you on hold for a couple of hours and you

911
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 5: have to wait there until they've decided to come on

912
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 5: the phone, and then when they deny something, you have

913
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 5: to go into a complicated system of trying to appeal

914
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 5: to appeal the decision, and you have to go up

915
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 5: in the ladder to what they call a peer review

916
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 5: and talk to somebody's who may not even be in

917
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 5: your specialty to make a decision about coverage. So the

918
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 5: system is rotten. Okay, it's a rotten system, and unfortunately

919
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 5: we're we've adapted to where we tried to live with it.

920
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 5: But it has to it has to change.

921
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: Well we've heard that for a long time, though, what

922
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: is going to be the change agent here? Is it

923
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: going to be one extreme case? One extreme example? Kind

924
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: of like you know, when we have a I don't

925
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 1: know terror attack, everything changed after nine to eleven? Do

926
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Speaker 1: we need like a medical nine to eleven to occur?

927
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Speaker 1: And what would that look like?

928
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know, I wonder I wondered this myself.

929
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 5: You know, I used to think that when the Sandy

930
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 5: Hook shootings occurred and all those children were massacred, that

931
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 5: that was going to stimulate change in the gun laws.

932
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Speaker 5: And it didn't. Uh, it almost rised the level of

933
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 5: absurdity of what you need to do to convince legislators.

934
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 5: And that's where this has to come from. Right, we

935
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 5: need we need major changes in our regulation, insurance companies

936
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 5: and laws. What's it going let's take to get these

937
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 5: people off the dime and make them understand that we

938
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 5: need to move forward and make the system better.

939
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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I thought of the Sandy hook, but

940
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I entirely agree that, because there

941
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Speaker 1: you have, Okay, you have a second Amendment. We have

942
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: second membright to arm ourselves and that is a I

943
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: don't think European countries understand the Second Amment, how powerful

944
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 1: it is and what you can do. And we put

945
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: a lot of laws in place to again keep guns

946
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Speaker 1: out the hands of criminals, but also impacts most people

947
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: don't guns, are law abiding citizens. And there's also a

948
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: mental health component. Use a physician know that, And you

949
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: know what about people who commit domestic violence acts? And

950
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: well we have HIPPA but we can't disclose. And when

951
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: you fill out your federal firearms form, you know you

952
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: may have mental health issues, but you're not going to

953
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: admit it, or maybe you don't know what you think

954
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: the rest of the world's crazier and you're normal, and

955
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: you go, yeah, I'm perfectly fine, and then they go

956
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: on a mass shooting. But there's none of that in

957
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: play here. You don't have that. But when you have

958
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: both sides agree right that the healthcare system is broken

959
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: needs to be fixed, there's no hey, there's an amendment

960
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: that says you're not entitled to healthcare, or there's no opposition.

961
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: Is we all agree the same thing, and yet we

962
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: can't do anything to me. That's the most frustrating part

963
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: about this.

964
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I completely agree that they're not analogy necessarily analogous. However,

965
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 5: think about this, but the Republicans are denying the fact

966
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 5: right now. They're denying the fact that cutting Medicaid and

967
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 5: medicare in the big beautiful bill. They're denying the fact

968
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 5: that that is going to cause a disaster in American

969
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 5: medicine when everybody knows that it's going to Hospitals are

970
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 5: already teeter tottering, right. I mean, the majority of hospitals

971
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 5: iness country operating in the red. Seventeen percent of hospitals

972
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 5: last year either bankrupted or came close to bankruptcy. And

973
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 5: these are royal hospitals, creating these healthcare deserts. I mean,

974
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 5: if the Medicaid thing goes in to effect and the

975
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 5: hospitals can no longer rely on that revenue, it could

976
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 5: actually be a complete catastrophe. Publicans need to know that,

977
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 5: but they're they're in denial.

978
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: Would that be the medical nine eleven we're talking about.

979
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 5: I think absolutely, Scott, that that could be the disaster

980
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 5: that finally wakes people up. But the problem is that

981
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 5: once it happens, getting reversing it that may take years,

982
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 5: and people are going to die because of it.

983
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: I have a family in rural Ohio. You listening you

984
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: might have that as well, or like at least you

985
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 1: know someone because you know, we're in a big city.

986
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: We're in Cincinnati, Ohio. We have Columbus, we have Cleveland.

987
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: We have mid sized cities like Dayton and Toledo and

988
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: elsewhere in our listening area. But the bulk of all

989
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: eighty eight counties are pretty rural in Ohio. And I've

990
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 1: seen firsthand clinics and hospitals closed because they just don't

991
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: have the people coming in and can't afford the staffing

992
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: and everything, all the compliance and everything else in order

993
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: to operate a modern hospital. There's just it's not profitable.

994
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people cringe at the

995
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: state taking over health care, but I don't know, can

996
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: this be? And we tell you, yeah, I look, I

997
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: go all right, well we know healthcare. We've seen hospitals

998
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: closed in rural areas. It's happening as we speak right now.

999
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 1: It doesn't get to play simply because it's flyover country.

1000
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: People lose all their healthcare, they lose all hope. At

1001
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: that point, we're going to have people dying of things

1002
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: that were easily fixable just weeks and months and years

1003
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: ago as opposed to to right now. And at some

1004
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: point that it's going to come to a tipping point

1005
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: because you're right, these hospitals can't run properable. But you look,

1006
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: listen to this can go oy a minute. If every man, woman,

1007
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: a child, we're spending like thirteen thousand dollars plus on

1008
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: average for our healthcare system. It's not that we're not

1009
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: spending money. Where's the money going?

1010
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Well what's going into the pockets of

1011
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 5: people Like in private equity for example, they're taken over

1012
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 5: a lot of these hospital systems and managed to bankrupt

1013
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 5: them and close them for profit. But if you recall

1014
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 5: in the book It's a Failure to Treat, there's a

1015
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 5: story about a baby and a parents who were trying

1016
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 5: to get their baby to a hospital in a rurally

1017
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 5: This is an absoluent couple. This isn't just about this

1018
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 5: isn't just about indigen people. This is pre body trying

1019
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 5: to get their baby to a hospital and when they

1020
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 5: pull up to the emergency room, the hospital had closed

1021
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 5: and they ended up having another drive another twenty five

1022
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 5: miles to get to a hospital. By the time they

1023
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 5: got there, the baby was beyond fix sing and died.

1024
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 5: And these are true stories. This is a true story

1025
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 5: of what can happen in our healthcare system. And you're right.

1026
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 5: If that starts happening on a big, high level, big scale,

1027
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 5: it could be It could be the Army Geddon that

1028
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 5: you're talking about.

1029
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I get the private equity element too, But

1030
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: they come in and go, hey, listen, you know you're

1031
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: not profitable. We'll buy a stake, we'll buy you out,

1032
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: we'll take you out. And of course they're about squeezing

1033
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: the last remaining dollars out there. And that is the

1034
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: nature of how our enterprises, the conditions in which we

1035
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: engage in America today, of course, is capitalism, and that's

1036
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: the ugly side of it, to be sure. But you know,

1037
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: it used to be a government be kind of like

1038
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: a referee in these things, and that's long since gone

1039
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: away with modern politics the way it is. He is,

1040
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: Doctor Peter Cowie's a cardiologists public health expert. Failure to

1041
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: treat as the book and where things are headed here

1042
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: with our broken healthcare system that both Republicans and Democrats

1043
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: agree on, it's broken and has to change. There's got

1044
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: to be a change. Ageing company. He believes it's going

1045
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: to be more healthcare deserts, meaning rural hospital shutting down

1046
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 1: and people dying, uh, but largely from trauma. I mean,

1047
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: you're telling me that people can literally bleed out because

1048
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: there's no physician or emergency room to treat them in

1049
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: a rural area. And we're talking about people who are

1050
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: farmers a lot of agricultural areas. And as we take

1051
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: the information super Highway and put it more rural areas

1052
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: because of the technology, well we'll see people who have

1053
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: met in a motor vehicle accident or you know, cut

1054
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: themselves of the saw that wind up dying, is what

1055
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: you're saying, when just a few weeks ago they could

1056
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: go to the clinic and get futured up. That's kind

1057
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,720
Speaker 1: of it, and it's looking almost third world.

1058
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 5: It sounds like, uh yeah, well, you know, there are

1059
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 5: many areas you write about, absolutely write about trauma, think

1060
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 5: about obstetrical obstetrical care. How many hospitals not They might

1061
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 5: not necessarily, but they've closed their obstetrical programs. So women

1062
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 5: have no place to deliver their baby. And there's many

1063
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 5: reasons for that. For the reasons we just discussed. There

1064
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 5: are financial issues, but there's also liability. Now doctors are

1065
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 5: not going into obstetrics. We have a severe shortage of

1066
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 5: obstetrical physicians in the United States, especially in the West

1067
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 5: and the Midwest. And so you're a woman, you're going

1068
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 5: to deliver your baby, you have to drive fifty miles

1069
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 5: to find someplace where they'll deliver your baby for you.

1070
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 5: Think about that.

1071
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: I don't lie. You can hang on after your water breaks, right.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's insane, but that's exactly what's happening. And

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Speaker 5: the thing that's really maddening about this is that the

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Speaker 5: public does occasionally take notice of this stuff, but they

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Speaker 5: hadn't risen up to the extent that I thought that

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Speaker 5: they might. And the book is really kind of a

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Speaker 5: clarion call for people, the public as well as practitioners

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Speaker 5: to speak up, to talk to their legislators, to make

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Speaker 5: sure that they understand that this is an issuative. They

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Speaker 5: really have to.

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Speaker 1: He's doctor Peter Cowei's cardiologist's public health expert. The book

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Speaker 1: is a failure to treat and what things look like

1083
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Speaker 1: maybe in a not so future dystopian future for that matter.

1084
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Speaker 1: It sounds dystopian to me and like the stuff of movies,

1085
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: but this is a reality. If things continue to go

1086
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Speaker 1: the way they are. The question is who wakes up

1087
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: and says, all right, we got to blow this thing up.

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Speaker 1: You know, government subsidized healthcare costs way more money, and

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Speaker 1: the time you subsidize something, it becomes grossly more inefficient

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Speaker 1: and really doesn't help those who would serve to help, because,

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Speaker 1: let's face it, the insurance companies, the middle men, are

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Speaker 1: the ones taking the money from the government. Here, as

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Speaker 1: the holdout continues on the other side, if we just go, well,

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Speaker 1: you know what, we can't have socialized medicine, Well, what's

1095
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 1: your alternative? Well nothing. Maybe the simple solution is as simply,

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Speaker 1: and I've said this for a long time, the easiest

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00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,439
Speaker 1: thing to be doctor Cowie, would be to take away

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Speaker 1: the burden for providers like yourself. Imagine if you don't

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Speaker 1: have to employ an entire team behind the scenes for

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Speaker 1: medical billing, coding, Medicare, Medicaid and all that nonsense, and

1101
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Speaker 1: just go Listen, you get sick, here's how much it costs,

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Speaker 1: pay it or get for castrophic situations, just give catastrophic

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Speaker 1: insurance and pay that much like you do your homeowners,

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Speaker 1: your auto insurance, your life insurance. Go to a system

1105
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: like that and get your employer the hell of a

1106
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Speaker 1: business providing healthcare. I think would solve the problem.

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Speaker 5: I think what you're suggesting has tremendous merit, and there

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Speaker 5: are many people who believe that you're correct that we've

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Speaker 5: created an infrastructure of health insurance companies administrators. We have

1110
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 5: more administrators in our hospital than we have nurses. Yeah,

1111
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 5: to get rid of this gigantic infrastructure that we probably

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Speaker 5: don't need and return to some kind of a more

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Speaker 5: simplistic approach to payment. And I completely agree with your

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Speaker 5: catastrophic insurance for those situations. Where things get a little

1115
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 5: out of control and you're very ill. But yeah, it's

1116
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 5: going to take people to wake up and have a

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00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 5: little common sense about this, and hopefully the book and

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Speaker 5: your radio program will get people motivated in the right paw.

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Speaker 1: All we have to do is eliminate the administrative and

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Speaker 1: bureaucratic class. That's a problem. It's too big in medica

1121
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Speaker 1: a medical, it's too big in government, it's too big

1122
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Speaker 1: in schools. You name where the problem is. It's because

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Speaker 1: we've got a bloated administrative and bureaucratic class. That's the problem.

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Speaker 1: All the best, Doc, good luck with the book.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I appreciate it very much, Scott, all right, thanks again.

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Speaker 1: Soon. It's a news update just a few minutes there,

1127
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Speaker 1: the very latest what's going on. Of course, he violence

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Speaker 1: in on Fountain Square first and foremost this morning, and

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Speaker 1: I go and I'll hear more adjectives from the mayor.

1130
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Speaker 1: We'll find out if any of this has teeth whatsoever.

1131
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Speaker 1: I'm asked Denise Dreehouse about this coming up at eleven

1132
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Speaker 1: oh six to some degree, because we're talking about putting

1133
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: the old arena where they are the new arena where

1134
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: the old arena is Heritage Bank Center and does does

1135
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: what does this say about violence downtown and how does

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Speaker 1: that impact the banks and what we're trying to do

1137
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Speaker 1: all the positive stuff we're trying to do with the

1138
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Speaker 1: arena project among other things, as well as a convention center.

1139
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Speaker 1: She's at eleven oh six. Well close than that though.

1140
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Speaker 1: Up next Julie Baluki. Julie on the Job we talk

1141
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: career related stuff, a little break from the reality of life,

1142
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 1: and maybe some advice and news you can use. Next

1143
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Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW. Scotts, Luntcha.

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Speaker 6: And barricades have given way to handshakes and handovers as

1145
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Speaker 6: Israel and Hamas six change hostages in a transaction of trust,

1146
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Speaker 6: with diplomacy being resurrected from the rubble. Will it hold

1147
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 6: or will the conflict continue? Keep it here for the

1148
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 6: latest updates on seven hundred WLW tri.

1149
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Speaker 1: State Board Buyers.

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Speaker 6: Helping you navigate the rocky path of fulfilling employment. Here's

1151
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 6: our career shipa Julie Bouki.

1152
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: It's all right with the economy and just the job

1153
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: market titaning, you can really feel it, especially among graduates.

1154
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 1: And then you throw Ai into the mix, and what

1155
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: does that mean for future jobs graduates and like joining

1156
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Speaker 1: the show this morning, is that Julie Bouki our career Shirpa, welcome.

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Speaker 3: How are you good morning, how are you sar well?

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00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 1: Thank you. So typically it was hey, it used to

1159
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: be just go get a degree. It's fine, go have fun,

1160
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: get good, good grades, and we'll sort this whole thing out.

1161
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: Or you know, back when I was a student, it

1162
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: was more like okay, well, you know, and you knew

1163
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: people that change majors like eleven times are probably still

1164
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Speaker 1: in school. But back then it wasn't as not affordable

1165
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Speaker 1: as today. Today. You've got to a plan going in.

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Speaker 1: You just can't figure it out as you go along,

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Speaker 1: as generations past have done, even more so with AI.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the plan can't be send junior off someplace

1169
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 3: at eighteen for four years and then when he or

1170
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Speaker 3: she pops out at twenty two, they've got a great

1171
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Speaker 3: job and a great career path waiting for them, and

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Speaker 3: those those days are gone. And the challenge is with

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Speaker 3: parents getting our kids to understand that. I love this

1174
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Speaker 3: article on the Wall through Journal talking about it's hard

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Speaker 3: to give career advice to your kids these days. Of

1176
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 3: course I had to laugh at that and say like

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Speaker 3: they were ever listening. You know, we want them to

1178
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 3: start thinking ahead, start being prepared. And it's really hard

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Speaker 3: when you're a teenager, late teens, early twenties to have

1180
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Speaker 3: that ability to see ahead and to see that the

1181
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 3: world has changed and you're going to have to join

1182
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,280
Speaker 3: the workforce and exist in a different way. In the past,

1183
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 3: we joined a company and we did all of our

1184
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 3: learning there. We got trained, we bumped our head, we

1185
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 3: were successful, we weren't successful, We moved around, and we did

1186
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Speaker 3: it all inside of a four wall sort of metaphorically.

1187
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Speaker 3: But we are in a place now where kids are

1188
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 3: going to have to learn to maneuver from chapter to

1189
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Speaker 3: chapter and each chapter might look different from the last one,

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Speaker 3: and so the ability to do that, that's really if

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Speaker 3: you've got teenagers right now, the three things that I'm

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00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 3: suggesting that you really work with them on or focus

1193
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 3: on is helping them build out there what we call

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Speaker 3: soft skills. How do you can customer service, talking to people,

1195
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Speaker 3: problem solving, doing something that's hard and feels uncomfortable. Can

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Speaker 3: you stand in front of a room and that's something

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Speaker 3: those we call them soft skills that those are really

1198
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Speaker 3: the one that companies are really desiring right now because

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Speaker 3: we talked. I know, we talked last week about AI

1200
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Speaker 3: and AI will replace some jobs, but for the most part,

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00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 3: what it's going to do is it's going to impact

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00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 3: how jobs are done. Won't replace you, but it'll change

1203
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 3: maybe how you work. And so therefore you have to

1204
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 3: be better at those people skills, communicating, listening, problem solving,

1205
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 3: you know, being a decent person to work with. Those

1206
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 3: things are going to become magnified in terms of their importance.

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Speaker 1: That's something that AI can't do. It can't act at

1208
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: some point, and there's gonna be you know, let's face it,

1209
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: the growing number of jos where there's no human interaction.

1210
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: But there's still plenty out there in the service sector.

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Speaker 1: You know, just thinking of this, Julie, because the fear

1212
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Speaker 1: is AA. My daughter's studying and she's like realizing, like

1213
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm studying. It's in the computer field.

1214
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: It's like, AI is probably going to take this job

1215
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: into your future. I got to pivot and so to

1216
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: the classes I have and I can change and move,

1217
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: and she's been in flexed. I think that's a smart

1218
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: move and may delay graduation a semester but you know, okay,

1219
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,439
Speaker 1: let's not get a degree in something that's worthless. Let's

1220
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 1: not do that. At the same time, she's also her

1221
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: income and she's a server and that's why she's paying

1222
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: for school and so. But she's learning though, So I

1223
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: think that's important, right, is the we don't want our

1224
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: kids to work, We want them to play sports, and

1225
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: we'll pay for everything. And you know, not all parents

1226
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: are that way. But I think having that service job

1227
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: where you're in front of people and you're having to

1228
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: deal with, you know, problematic customers and managers and schedules,

1229
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: and that trains you for what we're talking about here.

1230
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Speaker 1: If you spend your entire life just in front of

1231
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: a screen, you have no soft skills at all. You

1232
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: have to learn by interacting with human beings.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and you said something really important there when you

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00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 3: were talking about your daughter, So that she's taking she's

1235
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 3: in a technology field, working on her degree, and that's great.

1236
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Speaker 3: But even if parts of that are going to be

1237
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 3: impacted by AI, what she's doing, what she's modeling is

1238
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 3: an understanding and interesting technology and are willing to learn.

1239
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 3: And then you said flexible, flexible, adaptable, another super important

1240
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Speaker 3: skills because if she is showing right now, look she's

1241
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 3: if she's I look at that and I say, okay.

1242
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:13,959
Speaker 3: If I was working with her to tell her story,

1243
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 3: I say, okay. I enjoyed learning about technology. I understand

1244
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 3: that things are going to change, but the basis and

1245
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 3: everything I've learned, I think it's going to help me

1246
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 3: learn more quickly whatever comes my way. In addition, I

1247
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 3: have worked as a server and a lot of customer

1248
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:32,919
Speaker 3: service roles that have really taught me how to deal

1249
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 3: with all kinds of people from the general public to

1250
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 3: you know, more senior level people. And that combination really

1251
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 3: is what companies are looking for. And so that flexibility, adaptability,

1252
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 3: learn soft skills, the ability to learn, and then some

1253
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 3: level of comfort with technology. You know, we didn't do

1254
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 3: that in my day is never going to got it.

1255
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Speaker 1: Ever ever again, No, you have to learn. But that's

1256
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: the thing, is okay. So if you're the parent of

1257
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: a student, or you're a student, or you're headed off

1258
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: to college student side, how do I know that AI

1259
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 1: is going to take this job over? Is there a

1260
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 1: let mus test for this or we just don't know?

1261
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Speaker 3: Well, you don't And I think that's I heard one

1262
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 3: of probably one of the most prolific prognosticators on this

1263
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 3: kind of stuff, being asked this question on a call

1264
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 3: in show and he said, I have no idea. Because

1265
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 3: the mom was asking how do I guide my young

1266
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 3: sons who are getting ready for college in a couple

1267
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 3: of years, And he said, I have no idea. But

1268
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Speaker 3: he said, in actence the same thing I did. The

1269
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 3: ability to learn, the ability to communicate effectively, the ability

1270
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Speaker 3: to fall in your face and get back up. That

1271
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Speaker 3: those are the things that at least as we speak today,

1272
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Speaker 3: AI cannot replace. And so it's as you have teenagers

1273
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 3: junior high high school, you know, maybe insist that they

1274
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 3: get out there and get their hands dirty, working with

1275
01:00:55,280 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 3: the general public, babysitting, working a down, walking dogs, whatever

1276
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 3: it is, that being a caddy is wonderful experience for

1277
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 3: interacting with people. Don't get so caught up in they

1278
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 3: have to take every single AP class offered. And I

1279
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 3: think also from a parental standpoint, we have to get

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Speaker 3: off of our there's only one right way past. And

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01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 3: if your son or daughter is really showing an interest

1282
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 3: in working with our hands in the sort of the

1283
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 3: industrial type arts or really, you don't have to go,

1284
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 3: oh good, you can be a blah blah blah engineer

1285
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 3: at that point when they start to show with their

1286
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 3: interest in it, and listen to them and make sure

1287
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 3: they take advantage of everything their high school offers in

1288
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 3: order to get clear on what direction they should point.

1289
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 3: They're not going to stay in that direction forever, but

1290
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 3: at least gives them solid goodings to begin their career from.

1291
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 3: And don't the colleges are not doing this for your kids,

1292
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 3: so you have to it has to start young, and

1293
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 3: don't and really listen to what they want to do.

1294
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 3: And maybe they're not expressing it in the right words,

1295
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 3: but what they are doing, the things they gravitate towards

1296
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 3: the things they enjoy, their hobbies, all those things are

1297
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 3: clues about what they enjoy and so how do you

1298
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 3: take that and then translate that? And it's not a

1299
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 3: one and done process, and they're going to have many,

1300
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 3: many chapters in their careers.

1301
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: Julie Balky our career shirt but jumps on the show

1302
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 1: every Wednesday morning, breaks up a little talking correlated stuff

1303
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 1: in AI. How rough time for grads right now? But

1304
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: now I'm going to school and like, am I going

1305
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: to have a job? In a year or two or three,

1306
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: when I graduate in a field that AI is going

1307
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: to destroy. I mean, we always talk about how people

1308
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 1: born today are going to take jobs that have yet

1309
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: to be created. Now we have people that are close

1310
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 1: to graduating that are not going to get a job

1311
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: because it was here and then it's gone because of AI.

1312
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 1: It's really weird and you at the same time, you know,

1313
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 1: in school, we saw this during COVID, especially with you

1314
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,439
Speaker 1: zoom and collaborating and everything else. But today we're telling

1315
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: students in school not to use AI. You've got to

1316
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: learn this material. And then okay, well I go to

1317
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: college and I'm going to need to have AI skills

1318
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: when I graduate. That's kind of a mixed message, isn't it.

1319
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and we talked about this in the past,

1320
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 3: how companies are just so fed up with applicants using

1321
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 3: AI for everything to write the resumes, come up with answers,

1322
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 3: the potential interview questions, and so we're you know, the pendulum,

1323
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 3: the swing, and this is all still being figured out.

1324
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 3: But when you're out there, so okay, go ahead, let

1325
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 3: chat GPT, write your resume, but don't stop there, go

1326
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 3: and read it. Look at it and say, Okay, is

1327
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 3: this really is this really telling my story? Is this

1328
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 3: language I would use when I show up for an interview?

1329
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 3: Is this resume going to sound like me?

1330
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 5: You've got to put.

1331
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 3: Another layer over that, which is really what is you know?

1332
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 3: Who are you? And if everybody's using cat GPT to

1333
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 3: write the resumes, you aren't going to stand out. And

1334
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 3: so this isn't about And so I think it's the

1335
01:03:56,360 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 3: same with using gp GPT for anything. Don't rely it,

1336
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 3: rely it, rely it for the finished product. Help you,

1337
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 3: help you get started, to fast start, and then refine

1338
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 3: from there. I think that's where when we're when we're

1339
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 3: using it just because we don't want to put the

1340
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 3: work in or we don't want to do the hard

1341
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,439
Speaker 3: thinking around a project or a resume or cover letters

1342
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 3: or whatever it is, that's when it starts to really

1343
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 3: really backfire because employers, and you know, whether it's employer

1344
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 3: you're interviewing with or someone you work with, can see

1345
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 3: right through that.

1346
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 1: I know AI can't replace the.

1347
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 3: Trades, that's true, but it will change how they're done, Yeah,

1348
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 3: how they interact with customers, you know. So yeah, it's

1349
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 3: not going to retreat.

1350
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you've got to you know, put a

1351
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 1: you know, sweats and plumber, put a press fitting in something,

1352
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 1: you know, a plumbing for example, you still have to

1353
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: do the plumbing. AA is not God. Now you may

1354
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: be able to use AI to do calculations and runs

1355
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: and stuff. Oh that's allll different matter, but the physical

1356
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 1: nature of it until we build an AI robot that

1357
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 1: can replace a human being to build stuff that and

1358
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: we should be And unfortunately, parents I think are waking

1359
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: up going, wait a minute, you're spending all this money

1360
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: and you know, we still have to subsidize you when

1361
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: you're a young adult. You should be on your own.

1362
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 1: That's not all, but that's too many. And I think

1363
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 1: parents are finally realized and there's no stigma in getting

1364
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: your kids and something like that.

1365
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 3: Nope, nope, And we're making progress there. And sometimes it's

1366
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 3: just driven by by need, you know, by demand, and

1367
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 3: to the point that we can't keep our head in

1368
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 3: the sand anymore.

1369
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: Well, we're still going to need people in stems, I

1370
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: mean science, math, Oh goshcha, We're still going to need

1371
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 1: people with you know, if you have a business degree,

1372
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 1: you're still going to be fine. Now, am I change that?

1373
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 1: A lot, but you still you can do a lot

1374
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: with a business degree.

1375
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely. It's a broad set of skills and

1376
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 3: knowledge that every business that looks to run a profit

1377
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 3: or even a nonprofit is going to benefit from those skills.

1378
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 3: So it's being broadly skilled, being open to learn, being

1379
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 3: eager to jump in and take on something new, and

1380
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 3: not being afraid of falling on your face. That's really

1381
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 3: what that's really in a nutshell, are looking for. And

1382
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 3: we're not preparing young people, especially for the failing and

1383
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 3: getting out there and screwing up part. It's like we

1384
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 3: you know, as parents, we too many parents look at

1385
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 3: this as if you fail at something, and the fail

1386
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 3: I use the word loosely, but if you don't do

1387
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 3: well at something or something doesn't go your way, it's

1388
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 3: a direct reflection on me as a parent.

1389
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and it's really not I mean, we still

1390
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 1: have that stigma of going to you know, people were

1391
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 1: in the mom and dad university vanity stickers on the minivans.

1392
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 1: There are problem my kids say, oh Harvard, Mom, okay, great,

1393
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 1: it doesn't make you a better person. Now if your

1394
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 1: kid goes Hi, are you going to go to an

1395
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: ivy league? I'm not diminishing that at all. It's congratulations,

1396
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of people whose values of parents

1397
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 1: wrapped up in that that's unfortunate.

1398
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 3: Absolutely, yes, very much, so see it all the time.

1399
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, if we do. Julie Balki our career. Surep on

1400
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 1: the Scots Loan Show. She jumps in every Wednesday morning.

1401
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 1: She's at the Bauki group dot com. Her team ready

1402
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 1: to work for you. Maybe you're going through job change.

1403
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 1: Maybe uh again you you do your work with college

1404
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 1: students as well too, right, or even high school student?

1405
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, young people or very young people like that. We

1406
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 3: have worked with them, very mature juniors and seniors in

1407
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 3: college to help them prepare for what's next. Actually it's fun.

1408
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 3: They're really fun. They're very creative. I think we don't

1409
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 3: give them enough credit. They're so skilled in so many

1410
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,439
Speaker 3: different ways that we just didn't value or havn't valued

1411
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 3: as much as we should. So, yeah, we're even working

1412
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 3: with juniors and seniors.

1413
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 5: In college now.

1414
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 1: They're not they're just putting your questions into AI and

1415
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 1: getting an answer. What's wrong with you?

1416
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 3: No, they're not things you can't.

1417
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 1: Fake, you know, Yeah, we know exactly. You know, you

1418
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 1: kind of know when you're sitting down face to face

1419
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 1: and talking to someone, there's eye contact, there's all these things.

1420
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 1: That's why I'm a big proponent of working when you're

1421
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 1: younger and having a job in college or high school

1422
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 1: because the soft skills, the people skills, learning how to

1423
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 1: interact with folks. And so many young people today, not

1424
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 1: all of them, but far too many don't have the ability.

1425
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 1: It's like they've got to look at the screen and

1426
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 1: you know, talk in one hundred and forty one hundred

1427
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 1: and forty characters less. And I work with people like that.

1428
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 1: Go man, you got to have some ability to hold

1429
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 1: a conversation. Look someone of the eyes, shake their hand,

1430
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 1: interact and that feels like it's a dying art and

1431
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the cornerstone what we do in the future.

1432
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 1: You want to set yourself, separate yourself from AI, then

1433
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 1: you have to have those skills.

1434
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, all.

1435
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 1: Right, Julie, all the best will chat next week, right, Yes,

1436
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 1: we will take care. She's at the Buki Group Bauk

1437
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 1: Bukigroup dot com. We've got lots going on in the city,

1438
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 1: of course, and a lot of bad things are happening

1439
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 1: a lot of good stuff. We've got the Thursday Night

1440
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: Football crew in town, so cincinnatill be featured on Thursday

1441
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 1: Night Football Bengals Steelers will have the game for you

1442
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 1: with Dan and Lapp here on the home of the

1443
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 1: Best Bengals coverage seven hundred WLW. My fear though, is

1444
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 1: when they shoot shoot the glamour shots of downtown and

1445
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,640
Speaker 1: they show Fountain Square. Are we going to see a

1446
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 1: swat officer standing there guarding the Genius of statue, the

1447
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 1: Genius of water statue from Aaron bullets striking the bronze.

1448
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 1: I mean literally steps away from what they're gonna show

1449
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 1: on Thursday Night. Tomorrow night will be a window with

1450
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 1: a bullet hole in it. At City Chicken. Of course,

1451
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,599
Speaker 1: we had gunplay steps away from that the day before,

1452
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 1: a couple days before anyway, where some people who had

1453
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 1: a beef had beef with each other decide they're going

1454
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 1: to get a shoot out right in the middle of

1455
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 1: Fountain Square, but right during rush hour as well. And

1456
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 1: now the Mayor's come out of press conference saying the

1457
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 1: adjective of the day is intolerable. Intolerable. My adjective may

1458
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 1: be maybe incurable. Has it gone too far? Has it

1459
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 1: gone put the point of no? Which are we too

1460
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 1: far gone? Not that we can't save it, but all

1461
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 1: the adjectives and curfews and patrol, they've done little, And

1462
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 1: we just got to get back to enforcing the law,

1463
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 1: going and going after those individuals and making examples of them.

1464
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 1: There should absolutely be no wiggle room. If you are

1465
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:38,799
Speaker 1: a person who has a gun on you, they shouldn't

1466
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: have a gun on you. And that could be someone

1467
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 1: at her age, but specifically someone under disability, meaning that

1468
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 1: person has already been convicted of the felony and the

1469
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 1: law prohibits them from carrying, using, or even thinking about

1470
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 1: a firearm. And I'm willing to bet a lot maybe

1471
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 1: the farm, even if I had a farm, that that

1472
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 1: guy that we saw in the video with a white

1473
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 1: T shirt, the thick guy, fits into that category. You

1474
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,600
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I just have a sneaking suspicion

1475
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 1: that person had some priors. The way they carry the

1476
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 1: way they acted, what they did, and just how cold

1477
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 1: they were tells me that person probably has some experience

1478
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 1: of law enforcement. Don't know what's going to initiate the

1479
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:20,600
Speaker 1: change here, but the stuff they didn't want to do.

1480
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 1: Looks like we're doing this argument about Okay, well we

1481
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 1: don't want the National Guard here, we can't have the

1482
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 1: National Guard here because it looks why, well, you know

1483
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 1: it's a federal saying okay, I get the nuance between state, local,

1484
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 1: and federal government. At the same time, the average untrained eye,

1485
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 1: if I see an officer or someone who's dressed in

1486
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:42,879
Speaker 1: military gear, paramilitary gear with a long gun, tactical gear, helmet,

1487
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 1: face shield, all of that stuff, I think it's police state,

1488
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 1: regardless if it's a National Guard, whether it's the US Army,

1489
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 1: or whether it's local law enforcement. I mean, stop with

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01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 1: the semantics of it. We're at that point right now.

1491
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and we're at that point because well we

1492
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 1: let it get to this point. Up next on the show,

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01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 1: Denise three House is here. She's the president of the

1494
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 1: Hamilin County Commission. Did you hear about this talk about

1495
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 1: building a new arena when that is I don't know,

1496
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 1: but there are four sites elected at least to attracted.

1497
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 1: One would be where Heritage Bank Center sits now, simply

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01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 1: because well, how are you going to do that? You

1499
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 1: got to blow that up? And then rebus so there's

1500
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 1: no hockey, there's no events there. What's that do for

1501
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 1: the banks? And it's kind of hard to redevelop that area.

1502
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 1: And now they've gone it for a second time and said, no, wait,

1503
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 1: wait a minute, maybe this is the best area for

1504
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: a wait a minute, hold on just a second. What

1505
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:36,679
Speaker 1: just happened? Ask Denise about this coming up next? Scott's

1506
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 1: loan seven hundred ww since now.

1507
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 6: Do you want to be an American?

1508
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 7: Right?

1509
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 1: Scott flown back on seven hundred WWS. So last year

1510
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 1: we did a study to find out where you could

1511
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 1: put a new arena. We need a shiny new arena badly,

1512
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 1: and they came up with four sites. The spot where

1513
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 1: Heritage Bank Center sits now is ah. They looked at

1514
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 1: it and went, is this it's too small? We can't

1515
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,640
Speaker 1: there's no way you can put an arena here. All

1516
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 1: right now? MSA Sport, the agency, the group that's doing

1517
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 1: the studies, they re examined that site again recently and said,

1518
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 1: you know what, I think we can make this. I

1519
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 1: think we can make this work. Boy, this is interesting.

1520
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:18,600
Speaker 1: Hemlin County Commission President Denise Dreehouse on the show on

1521
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 1: seven hundred at WLWDS welcome back. How are you?

1522
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm good, how are you? Thanks for having me?

1523
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 1: Of course? All right, So this is the I don't know,

1524
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 1: maybe this is like the Italian in me. I'm not sure.

1525
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 1: But so MSA comes in a second time for free

1526
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 1: mind you, and they go, you know what, we need

1527
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 1: to really look at this this arena site again. And

1528
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,600
Speaker 1: you know what, actually we can do it if we

1529
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 1: move maring Way and we build a floodwall and do

1530
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 1: they say we can actually put a new arena on

1531
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 1: the existing site. And I heard that, And this is

1532
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 1: after the study came out just last year. It's not like,

1533
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 1: you know, five ten years have passed. This feels to

1534
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:54,639
Speaker 1: me like there's tremendous pressure from people with a lot

1535
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 1: of influence strongly suggesting the site, as in, yeah, if

1536
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 1: you know it's good for you're going to build the

1537
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 1: arena the same site. My question is is this forced?

1538
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 1: And if so, who forced it? Because all of a

1539
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 1: sudden it didn't fit and then suddenly, praise God, the

1540
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 1: arena miracle happened and now we can fit an arena

1541
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 1: in the spot that we thought we couldn't just a

1542
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 1: year ago. What am I missing here?

1543
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 9: Well? I think there are people, I don't know it's

1544
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 9: great influence. I'm not sure that captures it, but there

1545
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:24,640
Speaker 9: are people that are advocating for all of the site.

1546
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 9: And so I think this one on the riverfront, you know,

1547
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 9: I think there was some question as to whether or

1548
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 9: not it could fit in a larger footprint. And as

1549
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 9: you say, they've moved the street to the south, they've

1550
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 9: opened up some of the parking, the surface parking down

1551
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 9: there for the project, and so it's an interest. I mean,

1552
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 9: I'm very interested in this design because it captures and

1553
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 9: utilizes some of the built infrastructure that is already down

1554
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 9: there that the county and the city and the state

1555
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 9: all partnered to you'll build all that parking infrastructure there,

1556
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:02,600
Speaker 9: and from myage point, I want to definitely try to

1557
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 9: take advantage of build infrastructure no matter where the arena goes.

1558
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I get it. You look at that,

1559
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 1: and it's quite embarrassing for us to ease if you

1560
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:13,719
Speaker 1: look at whether it's a county, the city, the Bengals,

1561
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:15,919
Speaker 1: or all of us the banks is the fact that

1562
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 1: that was some twenty something years ago and there's still

1563
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 1: concrete piercing and they're waiting to be decked up for parking,

1564
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 1: garage and everything else, and I just can't help. But

1565
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that this building out on the initial site,

1566
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 1: the site where the bank arena is right now, the

1567
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 1: Heriage bank centers now is not a bad idea. But

1568
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying, is are we choosing that simply because there's

1569
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,640
Speaker 1: so many people I know, you and the commission, the

1570
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 1: Bank's working group, the Reds, the Bengals, the big money people,

1571
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,760
Speaker 1: the decision makers really wanted on that site because so

1572
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 1: much is invested in the banks. I understand that, But again,

1573
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 1: we have land that's ready to be developed and it's

1574
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 1: been sitting vacant for so long. I mean, it's really

1575
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 1: not let's face, it doesn't take twenty years to do

1576
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 1: what the grand vision is. I just wonder if we're

1577
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 1: forcing this to make sure that we use Atlanta, and

1578
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 1: when you do that, of course, are we choosing the

1579
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 1: best site or the one that the people behind the

1580
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 1: scene want the most? And does that is that good

1581
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 1: for taxpayers and people have come down there. I think

1582
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 1: it's a legit question.

1583
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 9: Oh, I absolutely think we should ask some question which

1584
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 9: is best for the taxpayers? And that is ultimately the

1585
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 9: question I asked myself which one benefits the taxpayers again

1586
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 9: using this built infrastructure that the taxpayers invested in, And

1587
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 9: so I am not committed necessarily to one site over

1588
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:29,640
Speaker 9: the other. I think we do need to evaluate and

1589
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 9: make sure we're picking the best site. But I think

1590
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 9: these questions have to be asked. You know, where is

1591
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 9: the biggest than for the book for the taxpayers? And

1592
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 9: I have always said from the very beginning that we

1593
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 9: need to recognize we've got built infrastructure in some of

1594
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 9: these locations and we don't necessarily have it in others.

1595
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 9: So I don't feel like there's a heavy hand here.

1596
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 9: I mean, there was a study that was conducted by

1597
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 9: the Chamber in partnership with the city and the county

1598
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 9: to evaluate different sites, and that's what they did, and

1599
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 9: so this isn't a dendum to thatvery I don't think

1600
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 9: it puts the period on anything. So I don't quite

1601
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 9: view it in that way. And the other thing I

1602
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:10,679
Speaker 9: want to mention is that the Urban Design Review Group,

1603
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 9: that again is some of the stakeholders down on the riverfront,

1604
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 9: are looking at those four sites that are still not

1605
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 9: developed and presenting a report to US mid November, and

1606
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 9: so I'm very interested in seeing what they come up with,

1607
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 9: because a lot twenty four is ready to go. The

1608
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 9: other three are not because we have to build that

1609
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,720
Speaker 9: parking underneath. But at least we're moving on it. And

1610
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:36,639
Speaker 9: I share your frustration, but at least we're moving on it.

1611
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 9: You know, you do have to have the resources to

1612
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 9: move on some of the stuff, and COVID really took

1613
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 9: a hit on our restricted funds, particularly the parking fund

1614
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 9: and the tourism fund, and so we just need to

1615
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 9: recognize the reality of you know, at least we're in

1616
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 9: a good position now where we've got a report coming

1617
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,639
Speaker 9: forward to the city and the county to talk about

1618
01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:58,799
Speaker 9: those last four lots.

1619
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, and parking infrastructure right around it. It'd be great

1620
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 1: the length of the project, though, what happens to businesses

1621
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 1: during the time when there are no events. If this

1622
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 1: is the site we go with, that's a factor that

1623
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 1: we don't have to worry about. And a few of

1624
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 1: the other sites, you know, the West End around where

1625
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 1: the casino is another one of the sites that are

1626
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 1: being evaluated, the CETV studio where Town Center garages. Maybe

1627
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 1: a little bit, but I mean this is this is

1628
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 1: the existing arena that goes away for what a couple

1629
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:28,599
Speaker 1: of years, like we saw at the Duke Energy Convention Center.

1630
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 1: But that also impacts all the foot traffic to the banks.

1631
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 1: How do we work around that?

1632
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 9: Well, Bill, let's not forget that we've got other assets

1633
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 9: down there, never mind the stadiums, but also the music

1634
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 9: venue that was meant to bring year round entertainment and

1635
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 9: business to those retailers down there. I mean, that's part

1636
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 9: of the reason we pushed so hard for the music

1637
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 9: venue for that very reason. And so if this goes

1638
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 9: offline for a while, it is just like the convention center. Look,

1639
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 9: you go down, you go dark for a while, You

1640
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 9: make the investments, you make sure the end product is

1641
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 9: better and will draw more business than what we had previously,

1642
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 9: and in the end there is a benefit and you

1643
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 9: do it as quickly as you can. And that's exactly

1644
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 9: what we did with the convention Center. And I would

1645
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 9: expect that's what it's this were to be cited there

1646
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 9: at that site, then I would expect the same thing

1647
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 9: to happen there.

1648
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 1: What do you do with the cyclones for two years,

1649
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 1: biggest tenant?

1650
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 9: I don't know the answer to that. I mean, I'm

1651
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 9: not in the weeds like that. I'll admit I'm looking

1652
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 9: at the different options. I mean, let's not forget that

1653
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 9: we don't have the money to do this right now.

1654
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 9: So I've said this a million times, like this is

1655
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 9: on the radar, it's on the list, It's not at

1656
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 9: the top of my list because we are invested in

1657
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 9: the convention Center renovation. We just finished up the Bengals deal.

1658
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 9: We've got a lot on our plate that are really

1659
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:52,639
Speaker 9: really big projects. And so you know, while the arena,

1660
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 9: you know, conversation is important and we're part of it,

1661
01:18:56,439 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 9: we do not have financing in place to instruct the

1662
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 9: new arena, so we we were missing a piece of

1663
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 9: this at the moment.

1664
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. And the other thing too, is it's what it's

1665
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 1: still be publicly owned but publicly funded because the NVIN

1666
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 1: Entertainment owns it. But I'm here, like seventy percent investment,

1667
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 1: and then you know there's that, and then what about

1668
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 1: the private investment too. Those are pieces that still have

1669
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:21,719
Speaker 1: to come together, right one hundred percent.

1670
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, we're looking for a financial stack that makes sense because,

1671
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 9: as you say, it's privately owned right now, so I

1672
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 9: don't know is it is it public owned, private owned.

1673
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 9: I mean, look, we have limited resources. I just you know,

1674
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 9: and so to assume that the county has the ability

1675
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 9: to step in here and renovates this is not realistic.

1676
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 9: You know, we are a partner in this, that we

1677
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 9: have limited resources, and I just want to emphasize that.

1678
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 9: So we are not where we need to be with

1679
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 9: a financial steck. We're looking at it. I mean, we've

1680
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 9: got experts looking at it. And so to answer your

1681
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 9: questions about public ownership private ownership, I don't know the

1682
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 9: answer to that because we haven't resolved that question.

1683
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 1: One of the big questions commissioned President in Easter your

1684
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 1: house to ask would be, well, you got to work

1685
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 1: with the city on this one too. And then often

1686
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 1: cases this, I mean, I guess I just look at

1687
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 1: if we have peace between Israel and Palestine, I suppose

1688
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 1: that the city and the county can get along on

1689
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 1: some things. And what about the railroad money, that is

1690
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 1: something that the city has for infrastructure. I don't know

1691
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 1: if what applies here, and that's the railroad sale. Proceeds

1692
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 1: in the railroad sale that would go just to infrastructure

1693
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:32,640
Speaker 1: roads in the city. I don't know if there's a

1694
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 1: carve out there or you're able to take some of

1695
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:36,680
Speaker 1: those moneys or not. Has that conversation been had at

1696
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 1: all with the city.

1697
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 9: Well, we're working very closely with the city on a

1698
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 9: number of projects, not the least of which is again

1699
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 9: mentioned center and the Convention Center hotel. And so it's

1700
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 9: not the days of old where the county and the

1701
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 9: city are fighting with each other. That is not the case.

1702
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 9: I mean I have regular meetings with they have to

1703
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,720
Speaker 9: have and council members about a number of issues. So

1704
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 9: we are in good stead with the city. And my

1705
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 9: expectation is that any financial stack we come up with

1706
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 9: includes the city, the county, the private side, perhaps the state.

1707
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 9: I mean, we need to look at all options. It's

1708
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 9: an expensive proposal. We don't again we don't have those

1709
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 9: final numbers, but it's going to have to be a

1710
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 9: collaborative approach to this and.

1711
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 1: That's getting stuff done. Although you know, as I point

1712
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 1: out the beginning, Denise, I look at the empty vastness

1713
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 1: around the banks and still areas yet twenty years, two decades,

1714
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 1: although you have to be developed and on that. We're

1715
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 1: talking about the Duke Energy Convention Center too, getting ready

1716
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 1: to open up. I think you know, first quarter of

1717
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:36,679
Speaker 1: the year and pretty soon it's going up. What happened

1718
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 1: to the hotel?

1719
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 9: Oh, it's well, So let's I want to be clear

1720
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 9: about that. What's left on the banks this will be

1721
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 9: private development. This is not going to be your government development.

1722
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:50,720
Speaker 9: So we will look at the private side and I

1723
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 9: think there's a lot of potential there because I think

1724
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:55,600
Speaker 9: people do want to develop down there. Same with the

1725
01:21:55,600 --> 01:22:00,040
Speaker 9: host Headquarter hotel. It's a private development. There are in

1726
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 9: centives from the state, the city, the county in that

1727
01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 9: deal to make sure that it happens. And that's moving along.

1728
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 9: So I don't know if you've seen the renderings, but

1729
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 9: they're pretty fantastic and it will allow us to have

1730
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 9: the room blocks that we need for the conventions that

1731
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:17,680
Speaker 9: we're going to get because the convention Center is so

1732
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 9: much better than it used to be and the deportmental holdings.

1733
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 9: The group that is going to do that development just

1734
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 9: to the south of the convention Center also has purchased

1735
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 9: the Wesson and so that is a great opportunity for

1736
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 9: us to not only have the seven hundred keys in

1737
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 9: the hotel that's going to be new, but also utilize

1738
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:40,560
Speaker 9: the Wessons for those blocks. So it's a real opportunity.

1739
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:41,720
Speaker 9: I'm very excited about that.

1740
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 1: How soon before we start. I haven't been down there

1741
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 1: in a while, so I don't have they've done site

1742
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 1: work yet or if they got anything in yet. What's

1743
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 1: the timeline.

1744
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:54,759
Speaker 9: I believe what's moving. I know that it's moving because

1745
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 9: I think some of these reports will be coming out.

1746
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 9: I think it's twenty twenty seven eight something like that.

1747
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 9: Remember it's a seven hundred key hotel. So the convention

1748
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 9: center will come online far before that, and we've got

1749
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 9: capacity in the downtown hotels. Now. The key to that,

1750
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:16,760
Speaker 9: or the Convention Center hotel is that they can be

1751
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 9: relegated for the conventions. And so a group that wants

1752
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 9: to come in and do conventions in Cincinnati won't have

1753
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 9: to have hotel rooms spread all all over the city.

1754
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 9: They'll be located right across the street. We'll have a

1755
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 9: skywalk over the street, and so that will really help

1756
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 9: you kind of a turbocharge. Some of the conventions that

1757
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 9: are coming in.

1758
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 1: All right, kind of got off on the weeds there,

1759
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 1: as I often knew because of my brain the add Denise,

1760
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 1: but you know, high roll Hamlin County Commission President in

1761
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 1: EA Street House, I'm with Slowne seven hundred WLW and

1762
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 1: kind of update there with the hotel and the convention

1763
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 1: center project where we're talking about the new arena. A

1764
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 1: story comes out that says MSA Sport has on their

1765
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 1: own dime re examined the current Heritage Bank site and said,

1766
01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:58,880
Speaker 1: you know what, we actually can make this work. We

1767
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 1: can put a new arena there, which opens up a

1768
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 1: host of other questions as well, namely shutting that thing

1769
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 1: down for a couple of years and what that looks

1770
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 1: like for the banks and how you pay for it,

1771
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 1: of course, are huge issues right now. So it sounds

1772
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 1: like we're way down the line here before timeline. You know,

1773
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 1: what time do we start making a final decision and

1774
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 1: picking a site in you know, specifically the financing and

1775
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 1: when do you see this coming together if at all?

1776
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 9: Well, I don't know if it all is an option,

1777
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 9: but I think I don't know. I mean, as I

1778
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:31,600
Speaker 9: told you, you know from my vantage point. You know,

1779
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 9: I'm interested in this. I think it's a big deal

1780
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 9: for the city and the county, but I am not

1781
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:39,599
Speaker 9: later focused on this because we've got so many other

1782
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:43,879
Speaker 9: things that were invested in. But I know the ideas

1783
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 9: are moving forward. This new look at the riverfront property,

1784
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 9: you know, just just came out, so you know, we're

1785
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 9: still studying it. But the big elephant in the room

1786
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 9: is the financing. And I have not seen a financial

1787
01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 9: stack that pays for.

1788
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 1: Us okay, So that's a long way down the line.

1789
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 1: And how much of a factor, too is this is

1790
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:09,720
Speaker 1: more short term I think, because we're talking years. Is

1791
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 1: what's happening in the city. As I mentioned, the conflict

1792
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:14,800
Speaker 1: in the city and the county. Sometimes often cases it

1793
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 1: seems here at odds with each other, at least from

1794
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 1: the public perspective. But I'm looking at the violence of

1795
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:21,720
Speaker 1: the crime on Fountain Square in around the city. We've

1796
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:23,680
Speaker 1: got a new convention center that's going to open up,

1797
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 1: We've got a hotel that's going to go in. We're

1798
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:27,639
Speaker 1: talking about building a new arena and getting more people

1799
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 1: downtime at a time where people were testified about moving

1800
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 1: out of downtown because of the violence. What kind of

1801
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 1: role does the county have in this and working along

1802
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:39,719
Speaker 1: with the city. I know you've been kind of silent

1803
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:42,719
Speaker 1: spectators on the sidelines, although Sheriff McGuffey is doing everything

1804
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 1: she can to enforce the laws of the city. But

1805
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 1: that's an area that's often not talked about between the

1806
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 1: city and the county, but clearly there's a overlay and

1807
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 1: the ven diagram of violence.

1808
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 9: Yeah, and when we do work with the city, and

1809
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:59,639
Speaker 9: I have been in contact with a mayor and council member,

1810
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 9: the sheriff is the one that's our law and public

1811
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 9: safety person right at the county. And so if you'll

1812
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 9: recall back when there was an influx of violence, the

1813
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 9: sheriff for thirty days due to patrol like a sweep

1814
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 9: of Court Street. They you know, it's an overlap of

1815
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 9: what PPD was doing. And so she came in with

1816
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 9: her folks and said, Okay, we're going to take Court Street.

1817
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 9: We're going to get things under control up here. And

1818
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 9: so she did, and there was a partnership between the

1819
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 9: city and the county and so that ended, things got better.

1820
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 9: And so now I know the sheriff and the mayor

1821
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:39,680
Speaker 9: are talking again about the counties roll in again, it's

1822
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 9: through the sheriff as to what that partnership will look

1823
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 9: like here. But you are correct, I mean, if we

1824
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 9: have continued violence in the city cores that obviously impacts

1825
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 9: all of what we're just talking about, whether it's on

1826
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 9: the banks or down a fountain Square or you know,

1827
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 9: some of these iconic places in the city and in

1828
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 9: the county when need get it under control. And so

1829
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:04,719
Speaker 9: we are talking to the city, I know the sheriff

1830
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 9: importantly is talking to CPD to try to figure out

1831
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 9: what the best strategies are. It's a work in progress,

1832
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:14,759
Speaker 9: but you know there, I heard some pretty strong language

1833
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:17,680
Speaker 9: at the press conference yesterday, and so looking forward to

1834
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 9: our continued partnership there.

1835
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't get whether the partnership dissolved in the

1836
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 1: first place. And now it's like in hindsight's twenty twenty gone. Boy,

1837
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 1: sure could use more boots on the ground. We could

1838
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 1: use use sheriff controls in certain areas here, and now

1839
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 1: we've got slot officers standing. It's not a good look

1840
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 1: for the city as we try to build a nice,

1841
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 1: new shiny thing to keep them from the outside coming in.

1842
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:37,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, let me just clarify that. You know, the

1843
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 9: city asked us to come in for a month to

1844
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 9: do this work, and so that's exactly what the sheriff did, right,

1845
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 9: And some of it is just a matter of you

1846
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:49,680
Speaker 9: know finances and resources because it's really CPD's territory. I mean,

1847
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:52,800
Speaker 9: the sheriff is coming in to a territory that CPDS

1848
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 9: happily helping to do that. But there it has to

1849
01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 9: be if we're going to have a long term arrangement,

1850
01:27:58,320 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 9: we have to figure that out.

1851
01:27:59,320 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 7: Ye.

1852
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:02,799
Speaker 9: That will include some resources from the city, from the county.

1853
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 9: And so if that's the goal, then something we're open

1854
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 9: to talking about. That was not what we were asked

1855
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,559
Speaker 9: to do, for my understanding, and so the sheriff did

1856
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:13,800
Speaker 9: what he was asked to do. And so now you know,

1857
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 9: there's a continued conversation with her, and there are other

1858
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 9: actors and all of this. Can I back up and

1859
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 9: say one thing I forgot to mention, and it's on

1860
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 9: a more positive note. Over at the convention center, So

1861
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:27,599
Speaker 9: the convention Center is being redone at the city County

1862
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 9: County partnership. A hotel will go just to the south.

1863
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 9: Let's not forget about the property to the east where

1864
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,640
Speaker 9: the Millennium used to stey. Oh yeah, I remember the

1865
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:39,720
Speaker 9: Millennium hotel. County invested there, got that under control, took

1866
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:43,760
Speaker 9: it down. That space is this big green space that

1867
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 9: we are going to be programming and it allows us

1868
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 9: to program stuff that convention stuff that would otherwise be

1869
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 9: in a building, but move it outside. And this is

1870
01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:58,839
Speaker 9: something that is a trend in the market. I'm super

1871
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 9: excited there to way we're way ahead of the trends

1872
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 9: here and to use that for programmable space for conferences

1873
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 9: and sessions, but also for social events. It's going to

1874
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 9: be a real game changer for the convention center.

1875
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 1: She is Hamlin County Commission President Denise Dreehouse on the

1876
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 1: show this morning and talking about the arena site and

1877
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 1: Heritage Bank Center and that may be the spot where

1878
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 1: we put a new arena on top of the old

1879
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 1: one and what that all means. And that's a little

1880
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 1: bit down the line, but I appreciate it coming on

1881
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 1: this morning and then laying that out for us. Denise.

1882
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're well and we'll talk again soon.

1883
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 9: Yeah, thank you, Scott.

1884
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:30,680
Speaker 5: I appreciate it, appreciate it.

1885
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 1: We'll get to a news update and more to follow.

1886
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 1: Sarah release and the Snort report stands by next Bengals

1887
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 1: and Thursday night football in town at pay Court tomorrow

1888
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 1: night light it up here seven hundred w it so

1889
01:29:57,320 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 1: long it feels like it's spent so long.

1890
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 2: How are you, well, you're the one who's crippled.

1891
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 1: How are you share Alisa's snort report. She comes over

1892
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:09,519
Speaker 1: from one or two seven EBM, that's where import her from.

1893
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 1: And then she comes and snort your way through sports

1894
01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 1: and Wednesday mornings and such with you. It's been been

1895
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:18,680
Speaker 1: a while. What do we do last?

1896
01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 2: I got the crutches.

1897
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:23,439
Speaker 1: Crutches one more week. I think next Tuesday crutches should

1898
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 1: go bye bye.

1899
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 2: And you'll be walking around again. I missed the scooter. Yeah, selfishly,

1900
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 2: I liked riding around on it like I was the

1901
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:31,679
Speaker 2: dude from Soul.

1902
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 1: And she's she's been driving me around like to work

1903
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:36,800
Speaker 1: every morning for two weeks.

1904
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:38,759
Speaker 2: Oh she's your personal uber.

1905
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1906
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:41,240
Speaker 1: But I'm like, you know what, I probably can get

1907
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 1: the crutches instead of the scooter and that's fine.

1908
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:46,400
Speaker 2: And one more week and week.

1909
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:47,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah?

1910
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:47,840
Speaker 2: Good is new?

1911
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 8: Right?

1912
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:49,760
Speaker 1: I heard anything like that? So I think I'm ready

1913
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 1: to go, but I don't want to push it till.

1914
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:53,679
Speaker 2: And that's what happens is once you start to feel good,

1915
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, I'm gonna go run a marathon, and

1916
01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 2: then you're back and good.

1917
01:30:57,200 --> 01:30:59,160
Speaker 1: I still have the boot and the crutches, so I

1918
01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 1: got it. I'm in a good boy. I'm gonna wait

1919
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 1: till my my doc. Doctor Baker says, let's go.

1920
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:07,639
Speaker 2: Well, this is the time for the older gentlemen because

1921
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 2: we are getting ready for the icy hot bulls. In

1922
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:16,559
Speaker 2: a little bit, I'm gonna share some of the comments

1923
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:19,600
Speaker 2: on social media because it is so funny. So we

1924
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 2: know Aaron Rodgers being forty one, Joe Flacco forty years old,

1925
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:27,639
Speaker 2: which I'm not too far from these guys. So all

1926
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:31,200
Speaker 2: the older people comments kind of has me a little triggered.

1927
01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:34,559
Speaker 1: Well it should be of a little bit that's here.

1928
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, I'm not far from that.

1929
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:38,600
Speaker 1: Well, the funny part is at my side. It's like,

1930
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 1: forty forty still young.

1931
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:43,839
Speaker 2: Right for you, You're like kill to be forty forty.

1932
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:45,760
Speaker 2: But it is kind of ironic that you got the

1933
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:47,840
Speaker 2: older dudes out there and you got the young guys

1934
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 2: in a boot like yourself.

1935
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:52,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, walking around Burrow with us must up toe. You

1936
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 1: feel about tomorrow night? You know what.

1937
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 2: I'm excited. I'm excited. I feel optimistic about it.

1938
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:00,760
Speaker 1: What makes you you'll optimistic?

1939
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:01,519
Speaker 5: You know what?

1940
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco looked really good in that second half in

1941
01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 2: Green Bay. I feel like he finally settled in. I mean, look,

1942
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:09,160
Speaker 2: you got to give you got to give the guy

1943
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 2: some credit. It was a very last minute notice to

1944
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:15,479
Speaker 2: get that call to go to Cincinnati. He had maybe

1945
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:18,600
Speaker 2: two days to practice with the team and it was

1946
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:20,800
Speaker 2: on a plane to Green Bay and you're you're doing

1947
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:23,680
Speaker 2: You're battling it out at Lambeau, which is also a

1948
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 2: really hard place to play. Head coach Zac Taylor and

1949
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:29,639
Speaker 2: his presser the other day he goes, look, Joe didn't

1950
01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:32,439
Speaker 2: even know the names of most of the guys on

1951
01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:35,040
Speaker 2: the team yet. He's still trying to settle in.

1952
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:37,439
Speaker 1: But Flo's done this a little bit. So he's like,

1953
01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:41,000
Speaker 1: this is not his first road teams, Like he's seen

1954
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:43,200
Speaker 1: pretty much off of every offensive scheme that you can.

1955
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 2: He's set up pretty much the entire AFC North. He

1956
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:49,679
Speaker 2: could be with the Steelers by the time the season's

1957
01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:51,960
Speaker 2: over and Joe Burrow is back on the field.

1958
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 1: Right because if something happens to to a rod right now,

1959
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:57,719
Speaker 1: you're thinking now, you're.

1960
01:32:57,520 --> 01:32:59,679
Speaker 2: Thinking, so I'll be there tomorrow night with my dad.

1961
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:03,439
Speaker 2: We ever miss the Bengals Steelers game This is when

1962
01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:05,880
Speaker 2: we always look forward to. No matter who the quarterback is,

1963
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 2: we've seen it all. Unfortunately, we've seen too many losses.

1964
01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:11,920
Speaker 1: I think it's that again. I think here's the problem.

1965
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 1: Right the offensive line, Okay has some work to do

1966
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:16,479
Speaker 1: there obviously still and he you know, they kept them upright,

1967
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 1: which is a great thing. Maybe different to get the Steelers.

1968
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:21,400
Speaker 2: But I actually had what one sack last year.

1969
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 1: But the last problem is it damn you know? Okay,

1970
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:24,880
Speaker 1: the offen showed them the second half of the defense

1971
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:25,680
Speaker 1: fall apart.

1972
01:33:26,160 --> 01:33:29,160
Speaker 2: Can we just have it all? Please you? And what

1973
01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:31,920
Speaker 2: about Moneymack with like the sixty seven yarder that didn't

1974
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:32,839
Speaker 2: count in my head.

1975
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:34,599
Speaker 1: On my Bengal thing in the entire game.

1976
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 2: I looked at my husband, I said, you know, when

1977
01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:39,040
Speaker 2: it does count, he's not going to make it, of

1978
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 2: course not.

1979
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:41,920
Speaker 1: That's a hard sixty seven is a big ask. Like

1980
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:45,439
Speaker 1: that's the whole field again, Bengal luck working against us

1981
01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 1: in this case.

1982
01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:48,120
Speaker 2: This is I feel about tomorrow night?

1983
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:51,280
Speaker 5: Do you?

1984
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:52,479
Speaker 7: I mean?

1985
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:54,639
Speaker 1: Okay, I look at Okay, you got Joe Flacco, he's

1986
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 1: hitting some of the guy. Okay, can you outscore Pittsburgh

1987
01:33:57,200 --> 01:34:01,080
Speaker 1: at this point? I just the defense. Like, I'll be

1988
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:03,200
Speaker 1: honest with you, I haven't seen damn thing out of

1989
01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 1: the defense. It makes me think that they can carry

1990
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 1: this team into the fourth quarter. That's what scares me

1991
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 1: about it because I think Pittsburgh just smash Mouth. They're

1992
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 1: going to come in and I think it's going to

1993
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:12,479
Speaker 1: be close in it maybe another Green Bay situation.

1994
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:14,200
Speaker 2: I think it is going to be a close game.

1995
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:16,680
Speaker 2: I have no idea what's going to happen tomorrow night.

1996
01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:18,200
Speaker 2: I feel like every time.

1997
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 1: They got to win, I mean, this is it.

1998
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:21,280
Speaker 2: Every time it's a surprise. But yes, this is a

1999
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 2: must win situation if you want to try to keep

2000
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:26,320
Speaker 2: up in the AFC North, Yep, take advantage of how

2001
01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:28,559
Speaker 2: bad the Browns and the Ravens are doing.

2002
01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:32,080
Speaker 1: Take advantage of that, right, full advantage. It's gonna be

2003
01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 1: tough to catch Pittsburgh. But you get it really because

2004
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:35,919
Speaker 1: you got at Pittsburgh.

2005
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:37,519
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's kind of then you and then you've

2006
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:40,720
Speaker 2: got ten days off to get it together with your

2007
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:42,880
Speaker 2: new QB. So this really is a must win for

2008
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:43,280
Speaker 2: the battle.

2009
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:44,640
Speaker 1: You got to come out and you go to that

2010
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:46,280
Speaker 1: buy of the win, half the win. This must win

2011
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:48,200
Speaker 1: otherwise I don't know how they I don't know how

2012
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:48,800
Speaker 1: they pull it off.

2013
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:50,680
Speaker 2: I don't know how you keep up in the conversation.

2014
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 5: You do.

2015
01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:54,719
Speaker 2: I don't want this to be a four win season, Okay, please,

2016
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 2: but yeah, with Aaron Rodgers being forty one Flak being

2017
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:02,479
Speaker 2: forty this this is just the second matchup of starting

2018
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 2: QB's forty or older in NFL history. So we're witnessing.

2019
01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:10,280
Speaker 1: This is great for you.

2020
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:13,320
Speaker 2: I am so excited for this. Okay, I think this

2021
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:16,960
Speaker 2: is great. The comments are hilarious. But Tom Brady and

2022
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:19,760
Speaker 2: Drew Brees the last one is to do it back

2023
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:23,599
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, so uh, get ready for history. Baby.

2024
01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:24,559
Speaker 2: This is fun.

2025
01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:27,200
Speaker 1: This historic. Did they take a nap at halftime? It's

2026
01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:28,040
Speaker 1: like a five minute too.

2027
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:29,439
Speaker 2: That's what I was going to get to. So some

2028
01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:32,479
Speaker 2: of the comments under the post, this is the battle

2029
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:36,160
Speaker 2: of the Granddaddy's. Oh my gosh, I feel so old.

2030
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:42,200
Speaker 2: Instead of a sideline reporter, put a staff of nurses

2031
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 2: out there. Yeah, a few other ones. This game should

2032
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:52,240
Speaker 2: be sponsored by AARP, calling it the Geriatric Bowl. Someone

2033
01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:55,040
Speaker 2: said eight point fifteen is too late of a start

2034
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:57,280
Speaker 2: for guys that are in bed by seven.

2035
01:35:57,400 --> 01:36:00,280
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you can't do that. Yeah, should be

2036
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:01,160
Speaker 1: playing the London game.

2037
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 2: Look, we just in the morning. I want to sit

2038
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:07,080
Speaker 2: there with my cine bums and watch the daddies go

2039
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 2: at it. Yeah, yeah, I'm excited. I don't know. I'll

2040
01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 2: be there with my dad. We just laugh to keep

2041
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:14,040
Speaker 2: him crying. That's what happens.

2042
01:36:14,479 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 1: That's all you can do is as a Bengals fan,

2043
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:18,120
Speaker 1: because at this point we'll be going how many days?

2044
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:20,400
Speaker 1: If they lose tomorrow, it's how many days till opening Day?

2045
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:22,800
Speaker 2: Oh? Mike, what are we at? One fifty? I don't know,

2046
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:25,200
Speaker 2: something like that. We've got Reds Fest in January. That's

2047
01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 2: something to look forward to. The dude, Pittsburgh. All teams

2048
01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:36,080
Speaker 2: beat Pittsburgh, I said, must win. Some positive news, how golden?

2049
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:39,680
Speaker 2: Yesterday talking to media our defensive coordinator, he said that

2050
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 2: Jamar Stewart finally back. Remember he went down Week two

2051
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:45,559
Speaker 2: with that ankle injury. I know we're all kind of like,

2052
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 2: who's Chamar's Stewart? What happened to him? So anyways, he's back.

2053
01:36:52,120 --> 01:36:54,880
Speaker 2: Not sure what's going to go down with Trey Hendrickson

2054
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:58,759
Speaker 2: dealing with a bad back injury. I think he's playing tomorrow.

2055
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:02,200
Speaker 1: I think I think I'll seehim there minutes before kickoff.

2056
01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:04,599
Speaker 2: Right, Zach Taylor will say, uh, hey, by the way,

2057
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 2: he'll be out there.

2058
01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 1: We will see Stewart tomorrow.

2059
01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:08,679
Speaker 2: That's what Al Golden is saying.

2060
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:11,720
Speaker 1: Okay, that'll be big. He needs a He looked good

2061
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:14,439
Speaker 1: in the limited starts he had. But yeah, getting some

2062
01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:16,880
Speaker 1: guy's healthy gay night back there, that's gonna help tremendously.

2063
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:21,000
Speaker 2: I think. So Logan Wilson or yeah, Logan Wilson had

2064
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:23,679
Speaker 2: talked to media yesterday about getting benched for that Green

2065
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 2: Bay A.

2066
01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:26,840
Speaker 1: Talk about old. There's your guy getting old. That's what

2067
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:27,200
Speaker 1: it is.

2068
01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:30,160
Speaker 2: He's not old, he's not even thirty.

2069
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:32,720
Speaker 1: Okay, but he doesn't look the same. Zach Taylor said,

2070
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:34,840
Speaker 1: he looking old and feeling old are two different things.

2071
01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:38,080
Speaker 2: I understand that. Unfortunately, I'm going through both. I know

2072
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:39,679
Speaker 2: I'm looking old, I'm feeling old.

2073
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:42,080
Speaker 1: I'm not doing okay looking old, Sarah.

2074
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:46,080
Speaker 2: Feeling old like so many needles you can put in

2075
01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 2: my face, and needles into your ankle and your foot

2076
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:51,200
Speaker 2: and your knee and your shoulder and everything.

2077
01:37:52,040 --> 01:37:52,519
Speaker 1: You're doing it.

2078
01:37:52,840 --> 01:37:55,040
Speaker 2: You're going to be like Joe Burrow, like a whole robotic.

2079
01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 1: I'm doing it. You feel better. You do it to

2080
01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:59,080
Speaker 1: look better. Those are two different types of procedures.

2081
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:00,840
Speaker 2: Hey, when you look good, you feel good. Feel good,

2082
01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:01,920
Speaker 2: look good.

2083
01:38:02,680 --> 01:38:06,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, hell, don't overdo it. Don't turn into plastic surgery mass.

2084
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:07,240
Speaker 1: You're not going to do that.

2085
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:08,679
Speaker 2: Are you gonna afford to do that?

2086
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:09,599
Speaker 1: That's probably a good thing.

2087
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:10,200
Speaker 5: I know.

2088
01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:12,920
Speaker 2: God's like, I'm going to keep you poor, so you

2089
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:13,400
Speaker 2: don't get.

2090
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:16,720
Speaker 1: Had plastic surgery in their thirties and forties, but then

2091
01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:19,559
Speaker 1: they're fifty, they look like the scream masks. Oh good,

2092
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:21,960
Speaker 1: look yeah.

2093
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:22,840
Speaker 2: You only want the screen mask for one day out

2094
01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:26,439
Speaker 2: of the year for Halloween. So but yeah. So Logan

2095
01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:29,080
Speaker 2: Wilson he had talked to media about getting bench. She said,

2096
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:31,559
Speaker 2: I can look back at this time of adversity and

2097
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:34,320
Speaker 2: be able to tell my kids how to work through it.

2098
01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:36,639
Speaker 2: Looks like the Bengals are going to be starting Barrett

2099
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:42,000
Speaker 2: Barrett Carter. So he told Barrett that he wants to

2100
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:43,840
Speaker 2: help him out in any way. There's no hard feelings

2101
01:38:43,880 --> 01:38:46,559
Speaker 2: about anything. Logan Wilson handling it like a true pro

2102
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:50,719
Speaker 2: and Barrett said, nothing but love and respect for Logan Wilson.

2103
01:38:51,320 --> 01:38:55,120
Speaker 2: So there you go. That's what's trending with our Bengals.

2104
01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:58,720
Speaker 1: Okay, and I saw the Thursday football teams are in

2105
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:01,719
Speaker 1: town already getting paid core ready to go. Yeah, great

2106
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:03,880
Speaker 1: under the lights. The weather's gonna be phenomenal.

2107
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:07,760
Speaker 2: Oh, it's gonna feel like football weather. It's gonna be gorgeous.

2108
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:10,400
Speaker 2: It's a big white out. Yeah. The team had a

2109
01:39:10,520 --> 01:39:13,599
Speaker 2: late night practice. They actually had it at Pakor Stadium

2110
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:16,439
Speaker 2: last night and they were getting the white out ready.

2111
01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:18,640
Speaker 2: So go check out the Bengals social media for that.

2112
01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 2: They've got like white and black tiger striped walls up

2113
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:24,679
Speaker 2: against the you know, around the whole field. It looks

2114
01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:27,240
Speaker 2: really cool. So if you look cool, you're gonna play cool,

2115
01:39:27,320 --> 01:39:29,960
Speaker 2: right all right? Even in the icy hot Bowl. The

2116
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:32,200
Speaker 2: Bengals didn't announce the other day that the ruler of

2117
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:37,240
Speaker 2: the Jungle is going to be Andrew Whitworth. He kind

2118
01:39:37,280 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 2: of gives the Bengals a hard time.

2119
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:41,360
Speaker 1: Do I think of love?

2120
01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:44,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's okay. You can be both.

2121
01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:46,320
Speaker 2: You can be a fan and you can also give

2122
01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:48,720
Speaker 2: your team a hard time. I think it should be

2123
01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:49,960
Speaker 2: like that all right.

2124
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:50,720
Speaker 7: Now.

2125
01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:51,719
Speaker 1: The big question is.

2126
01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:52,800
Speaker 2: Can he suit up?

2127
01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:53,000
Speaker 1: No?

2128
01:39:53,960 --> 01:39:55,040
Speaker 2: Can we put them out there.

2129
01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:57,840
Speaker 1: It's not the injuries on the field. It's the injuries

2130
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Speaker 1: like at Fountain Square or anybody gets shot. Why would

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Speaker 1: you go there, because that's the big story today.

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Speaker 2: Did you see that they're gonna have police and swats

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Speaker 2: it up front two pm to ten pm?

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Speaker 1: The National Guard here? We can't have the National Guard.

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Speaker 1: It looks it's terribly you got these uniform paramilitary trippers.

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Speaker 1: By the way, we're gonna have swat officers. I think

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Speaker 1: to the untrained eye, you look at a SWAT officer

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Speaker 1: and you look at it, we kind of freak out

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01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:20,880
Speaker 1: a little round. Well, you look at National Guards. I

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01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:24,479
Speaker 1: know the difference between the two, obviously, but when for

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Speaker 1: the average percy you look at it, go I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's a guy that's just in tactical gear with them

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01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:29,840
Speaker 1: the sell type or right full and a helmet on.

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Speaker 1: It's like, what whether it's a National Guarden, it's the

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01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:35,040
Speaker 1: same thing. And you're still not leaning into having the

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Speaker 1: troopers come down, State troopers and and that whole thing.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's just more of the same. It's like

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Speaker 1: you could see this coming because they just slow played

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Speaker 1: the whole thing, going okay, well we'll try a little more.

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Speaker 1: How are the curfews working out? And how's it's it's not.

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Speaker 2: The curfew thing is not working Yeah, clearly. And you

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01:40:52,160 --> 01:40:56,240
Speaker 2: know it's bad when Jeff Ruby's releases the presser and

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01:40:56,479 --> 01:41:00,920
Speaker 2: starts making moves, start making it in Lympika out yep Ooh.

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Speaker 1: The climate on tom properties, I guess I get that,

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01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:04,599
Speaker 1: but it's like it's a safety issue and we're moving

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01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:06,600
Speaker 1: it to Walnut and correct. Tell you what, you have

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01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:09,519
Speaker 1: more bullets flying and Fountain Square, that nice shiny rubies

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01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:12,120
Speaker 1: you're eating at they're gonna move. Can you imagine? And

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Speaker 1: we don't want them, do you imagine? No, the flagship

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Speaker 1: restaurant for the culinary experience in Cincinnati, Britney.

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Speaker 2: Ruby is my mayor of Cincinnati.

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01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 1: Is she pulls out of there?

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01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:24,400
Speaker 2: Oh we're done. We don't want that to happen. That

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01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:26,120
Speaker 2: is a beautiful restaurant.

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Speaker 1: Oh you're going.

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Speaker 2: And then right around the corner, you've got the lighting

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01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:30,599
Speaker 2: of the Christmas tree coming up. You've got all you know,

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01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:33,280
Speaker 2: the ice skating coming like, let's come on, get it together.

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Speaker 1: You have this clown that just keeps going. Well, you know,

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01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:38,240
Speaker 1: we got at more, you know, more hands on we

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01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:40,439
Speaker 1: need more programs. And this is what happens when you

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01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:42,679
Speaker 1: just let sociopaths run the streets unchecked.

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01:41:42,920 --> 01:41:45,559
Speaker 2: An eight o'clock shooting on a Monday night, right out

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Speaker 2: right outside of Jeff Ruby's.

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01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:49,800
Speaker 1: Not good, Ballsy, not good.

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01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:54,280
Speaker 2: And it's not just the teenagers. Now, these were twenty

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Speaker 2: year olds that were involved.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple of teens, a twenty four year old dude.

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01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:00,639
Speaker 1: And they're still looking for the guy that the big guy,

2180
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:03,440
Speaker 1: uh huh, looking for Biggie Smalls.

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01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:07,240
Speaker 2: That video was triggering. They released that the other night.

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01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:11,880
Speaker 1: I don't know this, this fat guy that's the streets.

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01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:14,040
Speaker 1: The guy couldn't have gone to. Maybe you want to

2184
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:15,120
Speaker 1: stake out a drive through.

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01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:21,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, there's a lot going on in Cincinnati. Uh

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01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:24,280
Speaker 2: this weekend. You know, You've got the Bengals tomorrow night,

2187
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:28,120
Speaker 2: and then FC Cincinnati for their fan appreciation night at

2188
01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:31,000
Speaker 2: t Q Well, and then Cyclones hockey is back on

2189
01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:35,559
Speaker 2: Saturday night. And guess who's sounding the siren? Your husband,

2190
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:38,880
Speaker 2: our girl, Tiff Potter, she is, Yes, I will be

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01:42:38,920 --> 01:42:40,120
Speaker 2: there with her on Saturday night.

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Speaker 1: She got a job fast, I know.

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01:42:42,439 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 2: Sounding the siren for the Sinnai Cyclones for the first

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01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:47,799
Speaker 2: face off. Yeah, it'll be a good time.

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Speaker 1: All right, good, well, she needs to get out and

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01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:53,360
Speaker 1: have some fun after the.

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01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:57,240
Speaker 2: Reduction and force unfortunately, Yeah, we very much. But she's

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01:42:57,280 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 2: gonna land on her feet on shore and do great.

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Speaker 1: So that's the nature of our economy these days.

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01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:04,920
Speaker 2: Go out and support our cyclones and our girl tiff

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Speaker 2: on Saturday.

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01:43:05,439 --> 01:43:07,240
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? I just had Denise Treehouse.

2203
01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:08,599
Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard that at all, but

2204
01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:10,519
Speaker 1: the shoes talking about the arena. They want to put

2205
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:12,200
Speaker 1: the arena on top of the old arena now that

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01:43:12,280 --> 01:43:13,960
Speaker 1: that's open. I wanted to lean on that because that

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01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:15,360
Speaker 1: sounds like that was off the table. How are we

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01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:15,680
Speaker 1: going to do?

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Speaker 5: So?

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01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:17,600
Speaker 1: What do you do with the cyclones? If they shut that,

2211
01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:19,360
Speaker 1: they blow the arena up and it's closed for two years,

2212
01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:20,160
Speaker 1: what are they gonna play?

2213
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 2: I guess they could take over.

2214
01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:25,000
Speaker 1: Or would they go to Kentucky?

2215
01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:27,320
Speaker 2: I probably would you play?

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01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:28,880
Speaker 1: You can't plan. I'm thinking where you play like Sports

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01:43:28,920 --> 01:43:31,040
Speaker 1: Plus had never hold it or Northland. It's not you're

2218
01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:33,080
Speaker 1: not gonna get seating there. So what did it have

2219
01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:33,559
Speaker 1: to be at?

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01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:33,840
Speaker 5: Uh?

2221
01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:36,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they see ten thousand heritage, do they.

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01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:38,919
Speaker 1: Have ice capacity at Northern Kentucky.

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01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:41,960
Speaker 2: You can lay some lice, lay some ice anywhere. I

2224
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:42,639
Speaker 2: guess you.

2225
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:44,240
Speaker 1: Can't need a refrigeration. I mean, I guess you could

2226
01:43:44,240 --> 01:43:46,040
Speaker 1: do a raise thing like they do for the Winter Classic,

2227
01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:47,960
Speaker 1: But I don't know how you freeze that if there's.

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01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:50,639
Speaker 2: No Well, the arena managers, well, I guess they put

2229
01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:53,879
Speaker 2: everything on top of ice constantly for concerts and comedians.

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01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:57,400
Speaker 1: But the ice, the the integration for the ice is

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01:43:57,439 --> 01:43:59,360
Speaker 1: below the surface too. He's gonna have to refrigerate it.

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01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:00,760
Speaker 1: So I don't know if they floating. I don't know

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01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:01,200
Speaker 1: how they do it.

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01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:01,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know either.

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01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:03,519
Speaker 1: I have to be Northern Kentucky if they do it.

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01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:05,400
Speaker 2: But that's interesting.

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01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:08,000
Speaker 1: Anyway, Go to Dayton, send them up to Dayton, Google

2238
01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:08,519
Speaker 1: play there.

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01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:09,720
Speaker 2: Selfishly, I don't want that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of a drunk right now.

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01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:13,360
Speaker 2: I'm a mile away, so I'm like, stick around here

2242
01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:16,280
Speaker 2: somehow find out. But they do deserve a new arena, all.

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01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:18,120
Speaker 1: Right, snorts. Give me a prediction for tomorrow. What do

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01:44:18,200 --> 01:44:21,240
Speaker 1: you got, Bengals? Oh my gosh, I think it's to

2245
01:44:21,439 --> 01:44:23,600
Speaker 1: Steelers six. Is that where you're going with?

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01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:24,360
Speaker 5: No?

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01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:29,919
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Twenty seventeen, Bengals twenty seventeen, Moneymack twenty seventeen.

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01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:31,639
Speaker 2: You want at the end to win it a sixty

2249
01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:32,280
Speaker 2: seven yarder?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:34,560
Speaker 2: What do you think?

2252
01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:37,920
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be ready for this one? Ready?

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01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:38,640
Speaker 2: One?

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01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:42,040
Speaker 1: Twenty four to twenty four tie? Swear?

2255
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:45,200
Speaker 2: Can we please stop the ties and everything?

2256
01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:46,519
Speaker 1: It's so bad? I hate tis.

2257
01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:48,439
Speaker 2: It's just play until you win.

2258
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:50,360
Speaker 1: So many dice falls over, that's the game.

2259
01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:52,920
Speaker 2: Like baseball. You gotta go to fifteen innings to get

2260
01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:54,240
Speaker 2: it done, and so be it.

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01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:56,040
Speaker 1: Keep Southern death. That's fine if you need to do

2262
01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:58,160
Speaker 1: the the overtimerals, but just keep going to you get

2263
01:44:58,160 --> 01:44:59,120
Speaker 1: a winner. Ties are dumb.

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01:44:59,280 --> 01:44:59,880
Speaker 5: I hate it.

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01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:02,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are the Packers now? Three? One and one?

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01:45:02,240 --> 01:45:05,200
Speaker 2: This is in soccer, stupid, No, and soccer shouldn't end

2267
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:07,439
Speaker 2: in a tie either. Just go un till your score.

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Speaker 1: Snart Reports gets me trigger every Wednesday Morning Football, Tomar

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Speaker 1: got the game for you and the home and the

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