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Speaker 1: Right now joining us to talk Steelers from the Athletic

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Speaker 1: it's Mike de Fabo. Mike, who's going to play quarterback

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Speaker 1: on Sunday? Rogers or Rudolph? What's your hunch and what

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Speaker 1: goes into the decision and who makes the decision?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my hunch is that Aaron Rodgers is going to

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Speaker 2: be the quarterback on Sunday. And a couple of things

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Speaker 2: lead me to that conclusion. First of all, today Tomlin

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Speaker 2: said that Rogers was pretty adamant that he wanted.

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Speaker 3: To go back in the game last Sunday, and he

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Speaker 3: says he's got a high pain tolerance.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like if you've got a quarterback of

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Speaker 2: that stature and you're going to consider his opinion, I

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Speaker 2: think that they're going to end up leaning that direction.

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Speaker 3: And it's been done before.

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Speaker 2: You know, Terry Bradshaw has played played like in the

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Speaker 2: late seventies. He played the end of the year with

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Speaker 2: a broken left wrist. And so for me, I think

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Speaker 2: that the main factors are can you take a snap,

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Speaker 2: because that's really where your left hand is going to

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Speaker 2: come into things, is taking a snap or a shotgun snap,

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Speaker 2: and all security making sure that you don't fumble when

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Speaker 2: you have it, But I feel like they're going to

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Speaker 2: find a way to work around it. You can brace

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Speaker 2: it up, it shouldn't make it worse. And given the

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Speaker 2: fact that they're about to play the Chicago Bears, a

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Speaker 2: team that Aaron Rodgers has owned in his career, I

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Speaker 2: think that they're probably gonna end up going with Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: I think you're probably correct. Although Matt Hasselbeck, who once

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Speaker 1: played with a broken wrist and talked about that on ESPN,

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Speaker 1: he pointed out that the biggest risk is bracing yourself

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Speaker 1: when you fall, and even though you'd like to think

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Speaker 1: that a brace, you know it would prevent further injury. Mike,

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Speaker 1: a fall on that risk could be damaging no matter

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Speaker 1: what how you're braced.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I believe that that's how Aaron Rodgers actually

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Speaker 2: got hurt in the first place. I think he took

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Speaker 2: a hit from a couple guys on that second down

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Speaker 2: play near the goal line, and as he fell, it

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Speaker 2: looked to me like he put his hand down to

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Speaker 2: brace himself, and that's where he ended up injuring that

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Speaker 2: risk in the first place. So yeah, I think that

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Speaker 2: the two biggest factors in terms of functionality, are can

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Speaker 2: you play? Can you take a snap? And then if

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Speaker 2: you get hit? Are you making it worse? If they

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Speaker 2: determine he can do both of those things, you know,

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Speaker 2: I think that you probably have to go with Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: Here's my worry, Mike, because, like you said, Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: has a pretty loud voice in this decision and with

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Speaker 1: the Steelers in general. What if he gets in there

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Speaker 1: and he just can't do it like this taking snaps

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Speaker 1: is dysfunctional. You know, he does fall on the wrist

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Speaker 1: or whatever, but still wants to play. Would they remove him?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be pretty tough to remove a guy

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Speaker 3: And there is a little bit of history there.

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Speaker 2: So from what I understand, last year, Aaron Rodgers injured

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Speaker 2: his hamstring and they also injured his knee, and there

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Speaker 2: were reports that he refused to get an MRI because

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Speaker 2: he didn't want the team and he didn't want to

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Speaker 2: know the full extent of what he was going through,

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Speaker 2: and it certainly hurt his mobility. When like you go

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Speaker 2: back and you watch him last year, he wasn't nearly as.

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Speaker 3: As he is right now.

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Speaker 2: And I chalk that up to his age, but it

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Speaker 2: turns out some of that at least was due to

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Speaker 2: the injury. So I think that exactly the scenario that

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Speaker 2: you laid out unfolded last year with the Jets.

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Speaker 1: What a week off, sirv Rogers better. He's looked weary

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Speaker 1: the last two weeks, played awful at LA. He's dumping

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Speaker 1: out of pressure real quick. My quitting on place what

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Speaker 1: would be best for the team and for Rogers in

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Speaker 1: the long run.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see this both ways.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I know that there's people that really

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Speaker 3: I don't think that I'm one of those people.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen Mason Rudolph play enough from twenty

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Speaker 2: most recent game to know that Aaron Rodgers is a

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Speaker 2: significantly better quarterback. And so really, I think that the

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Speaker 2: biggest factor would be the risk of further injury or

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Speaker 2: you know, something along those lines. And as long as

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Speaker 2: I feel like if the medical team tells you we

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Speaker 2: him back if he takes a hit, I think that

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Speaker 2: I would probably go with Aaron Rodgers in this case.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Mike de Fables about just by Armstrong

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Speaker 1: one wire dot Com. Again, I'm playing devil's advocate here

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Speaker 1: because I think we both know if he wants to,

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Speaker 1: Rogers will play. But it is Rudolph better in the

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Speaker 1: of both their careers. I thought he looked really good

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Speaker 1: under pressure against Cincinnati, which Rogers didn't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that Mason Rudolph to his credit.

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Speaker 2: One thing I'll say about him is throughout his career

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Speaker 2: he's been willing to stand in the pocket and take

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Speaker 2: a hit to make a play downfield. And a couple

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Speaker 2: of years ago, when Mason led that improbable three game

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Speaker 2: winning streak to help the Steelers qualify for the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: I did a you know, more deep dive reported story

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Speaker 2: and I talked to Mike Gundy, his former coach, and

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Speaker 2: he said that was such a big point of emphasis

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Speaker 2: for him. Mike Gundy was a former quarter himself, and

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Speaker 2: he drilled it into his quarterbacks. If you play this position,

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Speaker 2: you have to be willing to take the hits necessary,

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Speaker 2: and it showed.

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Speaker 3: Up like even in twenty nineteen. I think we all.

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Speaker 2: Remember the picture of them unscrewing the face mask from

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Speaker 2: I think that's maybe the best thing about him, is

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Speaker 2: he's willing to stand in the pocket. He's willing to

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Speaker 2: throw the ball downfield. And that's the other element of this.

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Speaker 2: You know, Aaron Rodgers, for all the things he's done

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Speaker 2: pretty well. You know, he's coordinated in offense, is based

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Speaker 2: on precision and quick game. But if they get in

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Speaker 2: a third and long situation, they're so poor because Rogers

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Speaker 2: has not been good throwing the ball downfield.

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Speaker 3: And it's a different story when it comes to Mason.

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Speaker 2: Mason, I think was the first guy to realize a

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Speaker 2: couple of years ago, if he bombed the ball deep

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Speaker 2: to George Pickens, good things were going to happen. Similarly

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Speaker 2: with DK Metcalf and other guys on this team, he

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Speaker 3: Down the field.

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Speaker 2: So if it is Rudolph, I think you're going to

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Speaker 1: It's a weird situation, Mike, one that we kind of

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Speaker 1: got reminded of with Rudolph playing pretty good against Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: I think at this stage in both their careers, Rudolph

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Speaker 1: is better than Rogers in almost every way except for

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Speaker 1: gile the knowledge of the game, how to win, but

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Speaker 1: that means so much with Rogers.

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Speaker 2: And I think Rogers gives you a better chance fitting

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Speaker 2: the ball into tight windows over the middle of the field,

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Speaker 2: getting you into the right play as you're alluding to. Yes,

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Speaker 2: some of those intangible things, but I mean you look

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Speaker 3: His checkdowns quick throws to get it out of Rogers' hands.

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Speaker 2: I think Rudolph could do some of these things, but

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Speaker 2: I don't know that he could do it quite at

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Speaker 2: this level. And I just feel like, also like when

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Speaker 2: the Steelers made the decision to wait on Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 2: to finally bring him in, they were committing themselves to

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers for the long run, of course, and so,

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Speaker 2: you know, unless Rogers determines, I think Rogers will have

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Speaker 2: for whatever reason, he thinks he needs another week, I

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Speaker 2: feel like they you know, they're gonna listen to Rogers

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Speaker 2: and he's gonna tell them me he wants to go.

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Speaker 3: And I think for that reason, I think he's going

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Speaker 1: Why on earth would Tomlin say Darius Slay's going to

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Speaker 1: go back in when he's healthy, when Pierre has been

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Speaker 1: so good lately and Slave's been so bad prior to

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Speaker 3: I completely agree with you on that one. Mark.

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Speaker 2: I think the Steelers overrated Darius Slay's abilities as a

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Speaker 2: thirty four year old guy when they signed him to

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Speaker 2: their issues in the secondary, Darius Slay being forty one

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Speaker 2: that list. And James Pierre played very well. And James

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Speaker 2: Pierre is this guy that continually impresses me because he's

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Speaker 2: not perfect by any means, but dating back to training

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Speaker 2: camp or even last year, he constantly is making plays.

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Speaker 2: I remember last year Pierre got into a game as

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Speaker 2: that he had an interception because that week in practice,

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Speaker 2: I think he picked off three passes and the same

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Speaker 2: thing happens all the time in practice. And I guess

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Speaker 2: here's my to make a concise mark. My biggest argument

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Speaker 2: for why you should play Pierre is the Steelers defense

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Speaker 2: is all about producing turnovers. They give up a ton

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Speaker 2: the one thing they're counting upon is splash, sack the quarterback,

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Speaker 2: harass the quarterback, turned the quarterback over. And which of

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Speaker 2: these two fits that style better. It's clearly James Pierre.

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Speaker 2: He's one of the most ball aware defensive backs that

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Speaker 3: And so I'm completely with you.

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Speaker 2: I am firmly in the camp that if it were

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Speaker 2: my decision, I would be starting James Pierre this week.

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Speaker 1: On Sunday after the game, Mike tom Win said that

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Speaker 1: Ramsey needs to be smarter today. He implied it was

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Speaker 1: okay to retaliate, so to spit or not to spit.

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Speaker 1: What the heck does Mike tom On talking.

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Speaker 2: About Yeah, he kind of changed his tune on that one.

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Speaker 3: Here's my personal opinion on it.

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Speaker 2: I think, knowing myself, if somebody spit on me, I

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Speaker 2: would throw punches. I don't think I would care what

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Speaker 2: I would get fired or reprimanded by my job.

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Speaker 3: That's just me. I don't think I.

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Speaker 2: Would be able to control my emotions in that kind

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Speaker 3: So I don't really blame Ramsey for doing it.

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Speaker 1: See I do. He's in a one score game you

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Speaker 1: want to win.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand your point of view, Mark, And yeah,

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Speaker 2: you would like your guy to keep his composure and

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying nature comes.

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Speaker 2: Into it at some point, and I know how I

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Speaker 2: of a different point of view than you, Mark, but

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Speaker 2: I understand what you're saying there. Where Like, guys all

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Speaker 2: I think that was part of what Jamar Chase was doing.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you why I think they need to win.

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Speaker 1: Eventually, you recede on a more permanent basis.

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Speaker 2: If they can win this week and they win one

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Speaker 2: good win on their resume. I don't even know that

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, Mark, You've got to find some stability.

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Speaker 2: It can't be up down, up down all season long.

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Speaker 2: You have to be trending in the right direction, going

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Speaker 3: In a big step one in that direction.

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Speaker 1: Mike, great stuff. Will do it again next week.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy the football, all right, sounds good, Mark, Thank you

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Speaker 2: so much.

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Speaker 1: Crazy stuff going on. We have Ryan Shay the Penguins.

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Speaker 1: Pierre McGuire called him the NHL's most improved player when

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Speaker 1: When Slay's targeted, the opposition passer rating this year is

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Speaker 3: Easy to get back on this time zone.

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Speaker 6: But the way the way there was a little tougher.

439
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 6: You had to sleep on the plane and kind of

440
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,160
Speaker 6: we got off the plane and went right to practice,

441
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 6: so that that was a little That was a little

442
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 6: bit tougher. It probably took a day then. I have

443
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 6: to get used to that. But that's why you go

444
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 6: over there early and give yourself some time.

445
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Speaker 1: That was a tail of two games for you guys.

446
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 1: What went wrong in the first game and what went

447
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Speaker 1: right in the second.

448
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think we just came out flat in the

449
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 6: first game. I think that was probably overall one of

450
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:20,120
Speaker 6: our honestly, one of our worst games of the year.

451
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 6: We just we turned over the pocket, both the lines,

452
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 6: we were playing careless, and I think in the second

453
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 6: game our coaching staff got on us after the first

454
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 6: game like they should have. In the second game, we

455
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 6: just played on top of them, got pucks in deep,

456
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 6: and honestly, we just played most of the game in

457
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 6: the ozone. And when you have good goal attending from

458
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,199
Speaker 6: Arty and Serge, you got to reward those guys, and

459
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 6: unfortunately we weren't able to do that. For already in

460
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Speaker 6: the first game, but having s get that shutout was

461
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:50,400
Speaker 6: pretty awesome.

462
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Speaker 1: What are your initial impressions of s morrishopping goal, who,

463
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: like you said, got his first NHL shutout in that

464
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 1: win on Sunday.

465
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think he's gonna be I think

466
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 6: he's gonna be a stud. He's he's just he's refreshing.

467
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 4: To have on the ice.

468
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 6: He's very he's very competitive. Even in practice. You can

469
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 6: tell he's he's out there. He's out there, he wants

470
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 6: to get better every day, and he's he's one of

471
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Speaker 6: the first people on the ice and he's definitely one

472
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Speaker 6: of the last people off. He uh, he takes shots

473
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 6: from anywhere, he takes shots from anyone, and you can

474
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 6: just tell it's hunger to get better and it's hunger

475
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Speaker 6: to be in this league. So it's pretty refreshing to see.

476
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Speaker 1: Ryan. Your role was a bit peripheral last year. Now

477
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 1: you're a top four defenseman. What changed? What are you

478
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: doing better or different or is it about the role

479
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: you've you've been given a chance at.

480
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think my whole career has kind

481
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 6: of been just having having patience with it and always

482
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 6: trying to get better in practice. Or throughout the years,

483
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 6: whether it comes in the summer, during the season. But

484
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 6: obviously at the last year when I got to play

485
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Speaker 6: in the top four for a little bit, a little

486
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 6: stretch the offense, I built from there and play good hockey.

487
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 6: I it was kind of just a mindset going into

488
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 6: last summer that I know I can play in that role,

489
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 6: but I just got to earn it. And obviously I

490
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 6: got the chance this year after playing in most of

491
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 6: the preseason games and having a good preseason. So obviously

492
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 6: an opportunity like this can slip slip away pretty quick.

493
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 6: So I gotta be pretty consistent here to uh stay

494
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 6: in a role like that, because we got a lot

495
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 6: of young guys and veteran guys that that are hungry

496
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 6: to get in that role. So I just think it's

497
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 6: all confidence. And when I'm playing with confidence, I think

498
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 6: everyone sees the different side of my game.

499
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 3: Uh.

500
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Speaker 1: Your partner with Chrys Latang, and that kind of comes

501
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: with a specific approach, doesn't it.

502
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 6: Uh Yeah, I mean you're playing with a Hall of Famer.

503
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 6: He's he's probably one of the most conditioned guys I've

504
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 6: seen playing the game, and he he likes to jump

505
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 6: up in the play, but he also has your back

506
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 6: whenever you make a mistake, so at first it was

507
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 6: a little nerve wracking playing with a guy like that.

508
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 6: I think we're similar in the fact that we both

509
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 6: kind of want to be perfect, even though we know

510
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 6: that's not going to happen in our sport. But when

511
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 6: you try to be as close to perfect, I think

512
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 6: a lot of good games come out of that. But

513
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 6: he's helped me a ton in my career so far,

514
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 6: and he's given me tips probably a couple times a

515
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 6: week of what I can do better and what we

516
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 6: can do better. So it's right now, it's a good tandem,

517
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 6: and I hope it keeps going.

518
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 1: Eric Carlson recently spoke about how last year guys were

519
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 1: asked to do what they couldn't. Does that apply to you.

520
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: It seems like Dan Muse has a more systematic I

521
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: don't want to say more defensive because that implies conservative,

522
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, like like more by

523
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: the numbers type of system.

524
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think right now, it's just like

525
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 6: the positivity in the room from coach News and his staff. Obviously,

526
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 6: we're winning games, so it's it's easy to be positive.

527
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 6: But the way he just he gets his message across.

528
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 6: He allows guys to play their game and right now,

529
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 6: right now is working. He's he's given guys confidence and

530
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 6: he's letting them run with it. Obviously, all those opportunities

531
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 6: need to be earned, but he allows the guys to

532
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 6: play their straints. And I think that's what we're doing.

533
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Speaker 6: And obviously I don't think it's a big system I

534
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,959
Speaker 6: guess system switch, but the DA very very involved this

535
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 6: year because we know we've built that trust for our

536
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 6: forwards that our fourds are always going to have our

537
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 6: back well and jumping up and covering for us. And

538
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 6: we got a big emphasis on getting to the front

539
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 6: of the net and I think our forwards is doing

540
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 6: a great job at that right now. So you see

541
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Speaker 6: us scoring a lot more goals.

542
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Speaker 1: We're talking to Ryan say the Penguins. Peng was at

543
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: home Friday night against the Minnesota Wild. Ryan, where's the

544
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: team att right now? The Penguins had a really fast start,

545
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: kind of treaded sledge for a little bit, but Sunday

546
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: seemed like a sixty minute regroup, a reset, if you will.

547
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure, I think that's what we needed that

548
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 6: Sunday game was huge for us, getting three out of

549
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 6: four points in Sweden, and obviously the couple games before we.

550
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 3: Hit a little bit of a rut.

551
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 6: But there's I would say that New Jersey game, that

552
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 6: Toronto game, we we out we out played the opponent,

553
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 6: and we didn't get the result we wanted. So those

554
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 6: are the games that you kind of look at, you

555
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 6: learn from, but you can't hang your head on those

556
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 6: because those are games that we played our We played

557
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 6: really good hockey and didn't get the result. But that's

558
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 6: four nothing game in Nashville. You know you're you had

559
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 6: a trip like that team bonding trip. Sergei gets his

560
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 6: first win, seeing that guy smile was great, and you

561
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 6: come back here, you go the most time off we've

562
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 6: had this year in four days, and we just get

563
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 6: right back into it Friday Saturday where we're playing good teams,

564
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 6: teams that haven't like Minnesota who have been playing a

565
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 6: lot better and Seattle has had a great start. So

566
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 6: we got got it right back into it and having

567
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 6: that game on Sunday is a huge step forward.

568
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: How much energy do the young players bring, kids like Kendall,

569
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: morrishaff Brunick and Conan of course, on il right now,

570
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: what's the impact of those guys.

571
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, they've been great. I think it's I think it's important.

572
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 6: And you see around the league and the impact that

573
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 6: these younger players have, they just they're they like if

574
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 6: they're if they're ready to play. I think you got

575
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 6: to put him in because as you can see person

576
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 6: with Ben Kendall like he's been obviously I've set said

577
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 6: in an interview before, but is his points and all

578
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 6: that it's gonna come. He's eighteen years eighteen, nineteen years old.

579
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 6: He's a young kid, but the way he plays defensively,

580
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 6: it is pretty impressive. He's uh, he's got the grit

581
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 6: to go in the corners, but he's also he's always

582
00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 6: he's always there to help the demon break the put

583
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 6: which is always appreciated. And then obviously Bruno, Bruno is

584
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 6: going to be a stud in this league as he progresses.

585
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 6: He's an unbelievable skater, unbelievable kid. And these guys are

586
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 6: just going to get better and better and they're I

587
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 6: think they know and hopefully the coaching staff and uh

588
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 6: management has kind of passed along the message. But those

589
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:21,959
Speaker 6: guys are the future, so you want to get them

590
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 6: ready as soon as possible.

591
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: The PK is right number four in the NHL, and

592
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: he's been really good lately. Ryan four for four on Sunday.

593
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: What's working there and who's been a catalyst in particular

594
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: with that units.

595
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think we just we especially the guys that

596
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 6: go out there, it's just we take proud in that.

597
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 6: That's like you gotta if there's there's something to take

598
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 6: pride in. It's definitely just like the guys in the

599
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 6: power play, they have that click and so good. And

600
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 6: for the PK guys, obviously you're it's like it's a

601
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 6: different type of momentum when you kill a penalty compared

602
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 6: to getting a point or scoring a goal on the

603
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,239
Speaker 6: power play. So we got to be uh prepared at

604
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 6: all times, especially with some of the powerplays that we're

605
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 6: gonna face coming up. But yeah, I would say everyone's

606
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 6: done a great job. Obviously Carl killing penalties now when

607
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 6: he maybe he hasn't in the past, but just the

608
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 6: way he how smart he is, He's done a great job.

609
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 6: But I think the catalyst is probably with Noel chari

610
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 6: out was probably the best shopwalker I've played hockey with

611
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 6: is Blake wots been unbelievable. He wins, he wins, POxy

612
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 6: block shots h him and Connor do where have been

613
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 6: the tandem that we've needed to uh kind of uh

614
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 6: ride the front of the bus for our p K

615
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,479
Speaker 6: there and uh they keep doing their job. Teams are

616
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 6: going to have a hard time even getting in the zone,

617
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:40,719
Speaker 6: never mind setting up.

618
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: I agree with all that, Ryan. One thing I want

619
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Speaker 1: to add, I'm seeing very effective clears on on on

620
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: the part of you guys. When you guys get a chance,

621
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: you don't waste the opportunity, and and really that can

622
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: kill a PK that's otherwise pretty good.

623
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

624
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 6: I think we're just we're just not We're not for

625
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 6: we're not forcing things like we always have support. It's

626
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 6: kind of like we're breaking the puck up five on five.

627
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 6: Like if if the puck's on the stuck on the wall,

628
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 6: or I'm on my or demons on their backhand, we're

629
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 6: not going to go for the home run. Clear that's

630
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 6: probably has a low percentage of getting out. We might

631
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 6: have to eat it, or we might have to bump

632
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 6: it middle to a ford that can get around it easy,

633
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 6: or use your de partners. So we're not we're not

634
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 6: panicking when the easy clear is there. Obviously we're making them,

635
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 6: getting them down, getting them all the way down, but

636
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 6: we definitely want to help help share and use those

637
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 6: little bumps to get the get the puck up.

638
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: I'd be remiss if I didn't mention your two goals.

639
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not known for your offensive output. That's

640
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: pretty good for you so far.

641
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, obviously the goals. The goals have been great, the

642
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 6: points have and it's just it's just about playing confident

643
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 6: and being in the right spots. And I mean, the

644
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 6: forwards are doing most of the work, so it's always

645
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 6: nice to reward them with some offense, uh, in the

646
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 6: offense zone as well.

647
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: Finally, Ryan, what was the best thing about Swede? Maybe

648
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: the most surprising thing? What what did you know didn't

649
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: you know before you went? And uh, what stands out

650
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: as your back now in Pittsburgh.

651
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think the honestly, I'm I'm I'm

652
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 6: pretty I'm pretty picky eater. But the food out there

653
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 6: was incredible. It was a little obviously very different, but

654
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 6: uh like the breakfast, the breakfast and just like the

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Speaker 6: lunch air lunch spots that I went to where were great.

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Speaker 6: I was never hungry over there with uh. I've been

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Speaker 6: overseas before for hockey and it's kind of went the

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Speaker 6: opposite way. So even though it gets it gets pretty

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Speaker 6: dark there around two pm, the food there was incredible

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Speaker 6: and I uh suggest anyone going to go visit Schalckholm

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Speaker 6: because it's a beautiful city.

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Speaker 1: What about the coffee, as I recall, it's pretty energizing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, guys, guys are guys were loving the coffee. That's uh,

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Speaker 6: that's that's one thing they were. They were talking about

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Speaker 6: the fiica the whole time. And I don't drink coffee personally,

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Speaker 6: so I can't I can't give you any insight there,

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Speaker 6: but uh, I know, I know everyone probably got three

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Speaker 6: or four cups of coffee a day, so it was

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Speaker 6: it really hit home for them.

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Speaker 1: Ryan, thank you so much for taking the time. Good

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Speaker 1: job so far and we'll see at.

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Speaker 3: The rink sounds good.

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Speaker 6: Thank you appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: That's Ryan Shaye project of Northeastern having a great season

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Speaker 1: for the Penguins so far, Like Shae and Waterspoon, never

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Speaker 1: thought they'd be top four, but they are and doing

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Speaker 1: a good job. And like Pierre said, Ryan Shay really

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Speaker 1: might be the most improved player in the league. Not

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Speaker 1: It's time to ask Mark Anything. Dial eight three to

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Speaker 2: we're ready to help with your next goal here in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: That's why we.

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Speaker 1: Had I can't even quote the big o'bowski right coodbye

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Speaker 1: d exit one. This summer, I'm gonna go see a

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Speaker 1: World Cup game somewhere with some team in North America

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Speaker 1: because I've never seen one. Always wanted to the US games.

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Speaker 1: They'll be over sold. Overpriced is a better way to

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Speaker 1: put it. So I'm gonna go see a Liverpool player

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Speaker 1: play for sure, and I think my uh my question

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Speaker 1: just got answered. Put in the focus. Scotland qualified today

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Speaker 1: first time in a long time, and their captain is.

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Speaker 7: Oh Andy Andy Andy and and.

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Speaker 1: Andy Robertson, long serving and very successful Liverpool left back,

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Speaker 1: so that should be fun. Let's go to winger time

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Speaker 1: to ask Mark anything.

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Speaker 8: Hey, double M, I had a question for you about

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Speaker 8: our third down efficiency. If the Steelers has been terrible

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Speaker 8: this year, what would you do different in obviously passing

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Speaker 8: third down situations to correct it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that they could do different, Brov. I've

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Speaker 1: been saying, and let's see if you agree. Do you

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Speaker 1: agree that maybe I and we and everybody have overestimated

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Speaker 1: how good Rogers has played. I think we've we've we've

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Speaker 1: said he's done better than he has, and I think

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Speaker 1: he's his failure on third downs a part of this.

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Speaker 1: I think Arthur Smith not utilizing the tight end room

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Speaker 1: anything like we thought he would is a big part

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Speaker 1: of the third down failure because I thought that would

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Speaker 1: make the offense unpredictable, whereas the offense is unerrandly predictable.

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Speaker 1: Just but that so uh. I think using Jalen Warren

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Speaker 1: on third Don Moore might help. I think making him

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Speaker 1: in every down back and having him sit the occasional

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Speaker 1: series might be the way to go. But in terms

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Speaker 1: of x's and os, I, I just don't think they

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Speaker 1: have the wherewithal Winger to be much better on third done.

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Speaker 1: I just think it's a crappy, Neanderthal offense.

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Speaker 3: I tend to agree.

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Speaker 8: It seems like they're you know, not staying in the

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Speaker 8: pocket and throwing behind the sticks always ends up in

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Speaker 8: the other team's favor and they turn around and they're

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Speaker 8: always doing it to us. But it seems like we

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Speaker 8: can't find a solution for that throw into the sticks.

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Speaker 8: And obviously, you know patterns that are ran all the time.

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Speaker 1: You know what, you know what's funny? I bet you'll

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Speaker 1: agree with this winger. And by the way, you named

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Speaker 1: Winger after the band winger.

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Speaker 8: I get Kip all the time all my life. So yeah,

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Speaker 8: it seems that way.

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Speaker 1: But but but you know how the Steelers always grow

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Speaker 1: short of the sticks on third done, right, It's not

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Speaker 1: it's they do they throw short of the sticks on

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Speaker 1: third dome, like if it's third and eight, they throw

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Speaker 1: a six yard pass and Rogers does it just like

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Speaker 1: the prior quarterbacks did it. Even Ben down near the

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Speaker 1: end when the Steelers weren't as good would do it.

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Speaker 1: But then watching other games, you realize it's what bad

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Speaker 1: teams do. Like whether it's a bad play call, whether

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Speaker 1: it's the receiver running the rod short, it's just what

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Speaker 1: bad teams do. It's how bad teams fail. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to our good friend the Hebrew Hammer Hammer yak shamash.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Mark yack shamash.

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Speaker 7: Hey, I think it's been so long since we've seen

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Speaker 7: confident quarterback play. I don't you think it's a case

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Speaker 7: of we don't even know what we're looking at.

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Speaker 1: That's an interesting way of putting. In other words, let

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Speaker 1: me let me put a name to the conversation. Are

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Speaker 1: we estimating Aaron Rodgers because it's been so long since

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Speaker 1: we saw good quarterback play?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a more eloquent way to say it.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not sure it is that.

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Speaker 1: Like my point might be that Rogers ain't that great,

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Speaker 1: but he's so much better than what wou'd been seeing

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Speaker 1: with guys like Picket and Trubisky and Russ and Fields.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I'd agree with all those, I guess,

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Speaker 7: but Picket, I mean, but hey, real quick, I stop

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Speaker 7: today to get some cigarettes and uh, they had the

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Speaker 7: Nike swosh on it.

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Speaker 1: How could that be? The cigarette pack had the Nike

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Speaker 1: swoosh on it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I got some Newport's cigarettes and they had the

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Speaker 7: Nike swosh on it.

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Speaker 6: How could in a word of this retigious world.

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Speaker 7: We live in, how could that exist?

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Speaker 1: Did anybody spit in your face?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 7: That was this morning.

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Speaker 1: That's your cue duction mus swammy, Oh Andy, Andy, Andy,

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Speaker 1: Andy and Andy Roberts And let's go to a talkback.

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Speaker 6: What is your current vehicle that you're currently driving and

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Speaker 6: what would you consider your all time.

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Speaker 3: Favorite vehicle that you had driven through the years.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, Well, I'm driving a Nissan Morano that I'm very

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Speaker 1: happy with, although it saddens me that after twenty two

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Speaker 1: years of having a free car due to sponsorship that

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Speaker 1: stopped a number of years ago. I had twenty years

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Speaker 1: with Schultzport and Richard Bazi, who I like very much.

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Speaker 1: Bobby right at Nissan on Wexford, I like him and

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Speaker 1: them very much as well. But the promotion budgets have

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Speaker 1: dried up for a lot of things, not least cars.

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Speaker 1: But I do like my niece on Morano. But the

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Speaker 1: favorite cry I ever had wasn't a sponsored car. It

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Speaker 1: was a Cadillac Seville I drove for a number of years.

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Speaker 1: I loved that car. And after the lease runs out

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Speaker 1: on this Morano, I might get not the Cadillac Escalade

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Speaker 1: or Escalade however it's pronounced. I don't care. But there's

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Speaker 1: an SUV that's slightly below the escalade or laid in size,

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Speaker 1: and I might get one of those. But if somebody

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Speaker 1: out there wants to give me a free sponsor car,

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Speaker 1: I'd like that. Let's go to a top mark.

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Speaker 9: Let's say the Steelers have to toggle back and forth

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Speaker 9: between Rogers and Rudolph for the rest of the year. Well,

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00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 9: the national media give coach T too much credit if

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Speaker 9: they make the playoffs. With the uncertainty at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You speak with way too much gravitas. It bothers me.

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Speaker 1: But I think for Coach T to get anything resembling

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Speaker 1: credit at all, he has to win a playoff game.

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Speaker 1: If he wins a playoff game, I think then, like

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Speaker 1: you said, he will again get too much credit like

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Speaker 1: he has for the best part of a decade. Too

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Speaker 1: much credit for mediocre results, too much credit in situations

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00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 1: where he should have gotten blame. That's happened almost yearly

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00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: over the past decade, and certainly in many individual instances

814
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: as well, like games and whatnot. But but yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think he has to win a playoff game. I think

816
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: the bloom is off his rows, but it could quickly

817
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: go right back on if he wins a playoff game.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to a talkback.

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Speaker 10: Hey, Mark, you're getting better at reciting the one O

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Speaker 10: five to nine phone number, which I'm ironically not calling from.

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Speaker 10: Did you use any mental exercises to help yourself remember

822
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Speaker 10: or did that just get better with time?

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Speaker 3: Thanks?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a mantra I cite to help me

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00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: in problems with concentration. If you'd like me to share it,

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Speaker 1: I will. It goes. Should have quit two years ago,

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Speaker 1: should have quit two years ago, should have quit two

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Speaker 1: years ago.

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Speaker 3: Um.

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Speaker 2: Um um um, should have quit two years ago.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to a talkback.

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Speaker 11: Hey, super genius, this is shame money from Cleveland. I

833
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 11: was just wondering, when you die, are you getting cremated,

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Speaker 11: are you getting buried? And if you're getting cremated, are

835
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Speaker 11: you getting those cremations buried or are you gonna have

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Speaker 11: somebody take take care of your remains?

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 3: Thanks.

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Speaker 1: That's actually very personal to ask, but I'll answer it anyway.

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Speaker 1: I'm in favor of cremation, but I promised my mother

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Speaker 1: i'd be buried next to her, so I think they'll

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Speaker 1: just you know, throw me in a box and slam

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Speaker 1: me right beside her. Although, like you said, you could

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Speaker 1: get cremated and bury the remains, but I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: get buried. I think that's one of those things I

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Speaker 1: try not to think about. I should be doing a

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Speaker 1: lot more preparation for when I pass, but that's depressing,

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Speaker 1: and I am by nature fairly depressed as is. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: get more calls in. We have the list. Next, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna talk to my producer, Tommy Radio, and just a

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Speaker 1: little bit as well. So keep it. Do I sound like,

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00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: really like tired today? I am really tired, almost defeated.

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Speaker 1: I'm still losing weight with a wake in one eighty

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Speaker 1: weight loss. Though they give me the food for free,

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Speaker 1: they pay me to endorse it's effective. I'm losing weight.

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Speaker 1: They gave me a car that'd be my favorite sponsor

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Speaker 1: ever one oh five ninety x