1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,480 Speaker 1: Were gonna head out to the Kiowa Comma Spreit Health 2 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: high Line and bring on Ian Rapport, our NFL network 3 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: insider and he is powered by Chevron. Chevron, the Human 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: Energy Company, commits to our local communities and safely delivering affordable, reliable, 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: ever cleaner energy. 6 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: Ian my friend, Good afternoon, Hope you had a nice weekend. 7 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: How are you? 8 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 3: I did. What's going on? Guys? 9 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: Well, we obviously it was a little bit of a 10 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: different world last week when we had John. We're talking 11 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: about all the moves the Broncos have made, which was 12 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: a lot of bringing back their own guys. 13 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: And then suddenly, Jalen Waddell, that deal gets done. What 14 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: was your reaction to it? 15 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 3: I would say, honestly, my reaction was finally, now, you know, 16 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 3: I was definitely hearing some talk and some things when 17 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 3: we were talking. The problem is I was kind of 18 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 3: hearing that. I've been hearing that for like the last year. 19 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 3: I remember around the trade deadline, it became pretty clear 20 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 3: that something was going on and maybe all right, the 21 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 3: Broncos re interested and it's like you know, you call 22 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 3: a million times, you can't get the price. You can 23 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: get the price, and then it's like, you know what, 24 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 3: maybe this will be better dealt dealt with kind of 25 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 3: just in the off season. And look, you know, the 26 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 3: the offers then where I would say somewhat similar to 27 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 3: what you know, the Broncos gave up this time, it 28 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 3: was like, you know, basically the equivalent of like a 29 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: one and a three. It was kind of convoluted, but 30 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 3: it was a one in a three essentially, And you know, 31 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: I thought the price was was pretty good. I mean, 32 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 3: first of all, if you're the Broncos, you know, you 33 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 3: give up a first rounder, but it's like, you know, 34 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 3: it's the thirtieth pick or whatever. It was like, that's 35 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 3: you know, probably more in line with second round value, 36 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: and you get a guaranteed, really really good player, and 37 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 3: that's you know, there's a lot to like in that 38 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 3: for Denver. 39 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 4: And hey it's Rick Lewis here is mister big stuff? 40 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 4: Your your walk up song? Did I miss that? 41 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 3: No? I don't know. I must have been listening to another. 42 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 4: Yeah no, if not, it should be your walk up 43 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 4: song because it sounded great and then you popping on 44 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 4: with us, so we were. 45 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 3: Talking about I appreciate it. The whole world needs a 46 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 3: walk up song. 47 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 48 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 4: We're talking about the value of the trade and you 49 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 4: just kind of touched down that a bit. We haven't 50 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 4: really got into which of the Broncos wide receivers UH 51 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 4: will be affected in a negative way, Troy Franklin, Marvin Memes, 52 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 4: who's going to get less targets when you add Jalen 53 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 4: Waddle And I think Jaalen Waddle and Courtland Sutton are 54 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 4: both capable of having big season, thousand yard season seasons each. 55 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 4: But what do you think happens with Franklin and Mems? 56 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 3: You know, I think it's a great question, and I 57 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 3: don't know that we know the answering. I think a 58 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 3: lot of people are immediately like, all right, well, you know, 59 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 3: this guy's going to be the odd man out. This 60 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 3: guy's going to be the odd man out. I don't 61 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 3: know that you need an odd man out. And I 62 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 3: think if you're you know, if you're Denver and you're 63 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 3: still in the window where you can kind. 64 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 5: Of pay everybody but the quarterback, you know, you're in 65 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 5: a pretty good place to spend to bring in high priced, 66 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 5: really good players and say let's just figure it. 67 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 3: Out in the field. You know, I think Waddle is 68 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 3: such an interesting different type player because you know, everything 69 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: can be a home run. I mean seriously, like everything 70 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 3: could be a home run. So it's not like, you know, 71 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 3: certainly not a one trick pony, but definitely so when 72 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 3: you can rely on for big play after big play, 73 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 3: and you know, does that mean some of the other 74 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 3: guys are more kind of these security blanket types, Like 75 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 3: I don't know, but I think you know, what you want, 76 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 3: especially for a young quarterback, is sort of an embarrassment 77 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: of riches. You want to be able to say, like, 78 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: we got a lot of guys capable of making an 79 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 3: impact and offense, and we're going to put them all 80 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 3: out there and kind of see what happens. 81 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: Ian are you what are you hearing on David and 82 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: Joku and some of these I saw you tweeted about 83 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: Dine she Harris some some of these guys that I 84 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: don't know the theoretically could have been in that Wave 85 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: one Wave two, but now maybe they're gonna wait till 86 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: after the draft. 87 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: What do you think is gonna happen with some of 88 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: these guys. 89 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think it's either way till after 90 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 3: the draft or wait till right before the draft, because 91 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 3: you know, if you're a sort of veteran free agent, 92 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 3: there's really two options right now. I mean, you're you know, 93 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 3: we might get a couple this week, we might we 94 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 3: might get a couple next week. But more likely, what 95 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 3: you're doing is saying to a team like, all right, 96 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 3: like if you want to fill every hole before the draft, 97 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: you can pay. You can sign me and maybe pay 98 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: a little more than you'd want. Or what you can 99 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 3: say is I'm just gonna wait and maybe a team 100 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: that doesn't get that second round tight end that they wanted, 101 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 3: maybe they signed me that and you know, it's kind 102 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: of a not you know, in the heart of free agency, 103 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 3: right I mean, this is not kind of where you 104 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 3: want to be if you're a veteran. But the reality 105 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: is what the reality is is if you have a 106 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 3: value I think you're worth X, then waiting is no 107 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 3: big deal because you know, you don't play a game 108 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 3: till September. And I think you know Djoku's in that situation. 109 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 3: Najie Harris is a little different because he's not healthy yet. 110 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 3: You know he'll probably sign. You know, he could be 111 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 3: so many signs before training camp or in the events 112 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 3: of an injury. He's in a little bit of a 113 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: different category by now. 114 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 4: We're talking ianport Ian uh tight end. Evan Ingram had 115 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 4: fifty catches, but it was a quiet fifty catches. A 116 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 4: lot of people disappointed in his season. How is this 117 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 4: going to affect him when you when you put a 118 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 4: Jalen Waddle into the lineup. 119 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I wondered about Ingram to you know, 120 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: obviously still on the roster do a pretty big number, 121 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 3: not a lot of guaranteed. I mean there's you know, 122 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 3: there's some questions like and I think, you know, that 123 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 3: would be the kind of guy where, you know, maybe 124 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 3: in the draft if someone says like, hey, you know, 125 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 3: we have an need, we're gonna maybe trade for that guy. 126 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 3: I think, you know, you could certainly see that. You 127 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 3: could see around the time at roster cutdowns. You know, 128 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 3: if that's someone who a team trades for it, then 129 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's safe to say he's gonna 130 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 3: have to earn his way onto a roster, which is 131 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 3: really fine. You know, that's sort of the reality of 132 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 3: life anyway, when you get to be you know, twenty eight, 133 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 3: twenty nine, thirty. But yeah, I mean I thought the 134 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 3: same thing you did. We're like, that's the guy who 135 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 3: we're sure could be a little effective. 136 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: Ian last couple here for you, so Jackson Smith and Jake. 137 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: But what a what a deal he got today resetting 138 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: the market. Are you surprised that we cleared Jamar Chase's 139 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: numbers so quickly? I wondered if he'd be the guy 140 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: or if we were gonna have to wait a little long, 141 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: because I remember when that name number came out, it 142 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: felt like such a massive jump, but it made sense 143 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: for what he had been so. 144 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,559 Speaker 2: Far in the league times. 145 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 3: I mean, he is a he is a truly great player, 146 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 3: a difference maker. You know. I don't know if he's 147 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 3: like a true like sort of Jamar Chase type player. 148 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 3: But you know what teams generally do now is if 149 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 3: you have great, great players, you extend them, and you 150 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: do it early. It's all like a little bit of accounting. 151 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 3: And so I think for Seattle, I mean, they you know, 152 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 3: they didn't sign a bunch of guys in free agency. 153 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 3: They're gonna get the context back, They're gonna rely on trafting, 154 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 3: which they've always done incredibly well, and you know, you 155 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 3: lock them into a forty two and a half million 156 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 3: dollar deal but then it actually doesn't start for another 157 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 3: two years, so you kind of sprinkled that money in 158 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: over the next two years. So I think for Seattle 159 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 3: it makes sense because you know, you basically have an 160 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 3: extra year to help account for the extra money. If 161 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 3: you're Smith and Jigba, you become the highest paid receiver 162 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 3: in the NFL and you lock in that that aday now, 163 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 3: so I think it makes sense. You know, again, I'm 164 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 3: not sure he's the true sort of Jamar Chase justin 165 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 3: Jefferson type player, but super super productive in what Seattle 166 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 3: does with him, one hundred percent. 167 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: All right, last one I have for you. I want 168 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: to go back to jail and wild for a second. 169 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: What was the assessment of that trade from around the league? 170 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: On the Broncos side of things, and then I guess 171 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: maybe a little on the Dolphins too, Like what does 172 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: that mean as far as what are people saying about 173 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: this trade? But I love to get sort of a 174 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: pulse of the league when they see the Broncos make 175 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: that trade. 176 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: What are people saying? 177 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny you asked, because what generally happens is 178 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 3: when teams make trades, I'll get a couple of GMS 179 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 3: or personnel directors or whatever. A couple you know, executives, 180 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 3: well text me and just kind of weigh in, like 181 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 3: here's what I think of this. They'll say like, oh, 182 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 3: I can't believe that trade, or like too much value. Whatever. 183 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 3: The biggest thing I got from the Jalen Wild trade 184 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 3: was like that's pretty fair. Yeah, that's pretty good. Like 185 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 3: it was. It was interesting. You know, it took a 186 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 3: long time, took a lot longer time than I thought 187 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 3: it would, but I think in the end the league 188 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 3: was sort of like, yeah, this makes sense, and I 189 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 3: think that's that's kind of what you want, you know. 190 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 3: I mean, George Payton does a really nice job. It's 191 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 3: very discipline, but pretty fair. It's a really good player. 192 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 3: He's still young, he's in a reasonable contract, Like this 193 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 3: is kind of what it should cost now. I would 194 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 3: say for Miami it's a little bit different because you know, 195 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 3: you get the first round pick and you get a 196 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 3: little more, but like you know, they're gonna they're in 197 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 3: a hundred million dollars of dead money this year. This 198 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 3: is a rebuilding year for them. I mean, what you 199 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 3: really do is you just take the assets you have 200 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 3: and you say, we are going to build for the 201 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 3: future and get as much as you possibly can get, 202 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 3: and so, like you know, just having a jail and 203 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 3: Waddle on the roster really really help the Miami Dolphins 204 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 3: this year. Like I'm not sure he really does, so 205 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 3: I thought that trade for them was probably a smart move. 206 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: Always great. Ian, Really appreciate the time it inside man. 207 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 2: Thank you all right, good talking. 208 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: To you guys. Take care. I appreciate it. 209 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 2: Ian Raphport